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Anonymous Sun Sep 20 22:34:06 2020 No.22675796 [Reply] [Original]

Prove me wrong: Stakenet has quietly had a major impact on the industry and it will spearhead some of the biggest gains in all of decentralized finance as the vast chasm narrows between the concepts its been inventing and building upon for years and the general understanding of these concepts grows and moves closer to the center and away from the fringes.
XSN threads were quietly on /biz/ all through the depths of the 2018-19 bear market. They were usually one-off generals.
Through 2020 and especially since June as the DEX progressed from private to open beta, there has been a notable uptick in XSN threads.
It's no coincidence that within a few weeks of Stakenet making some waves like
>aggregating orders from Binance, Livecoin, and Bitfinex's orderbooks
>getting one coin deposit working
>exhibiting time and time again - pretty much everyday - why Layer 1 is not a good idea for on-chain tx
It was only after this that you began to see ICOs come out of the woodwork offering the same ideas and concepts - on an ERC20, at that, and oftentimes backed by very moneyed and influential people who quite frankly should know better.
It's only been in the past few weeks that Layer 2 has become a popular topic of discussion. Now more and more recognizable experts are admitting L2 is the natural way forward, and with it comes the interest of those who bank on their word.

Don't let the experts "inform" you in another 8 months that building directly on Ethereum (rather than for Ethereum) and being co-dependent on its network and future plans for everything (rather than being independent) "might actually stunt" native interchain L2 interoperability.
I have posted this twice and no one has yet to convince me otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 22:45:01 2020 No.22675995 Anon too long didn’t read. Is this live or soon TM? Is there KYC?

Anonymous Sun Sep 20 22:52:59 2020 No.22676133

Listen carefully fags. Fuck all this defi craze if your not going to ride the moonshot.

Stakenet literally built the first crosschain no kyc Dex.

It’s going to take all the volume from from Binance, atleast with btc pairs.

Imagine being able to trade btc/usdt on uniswap. Just a fraction of the daily volume and this project will do a 100x. If you missed out on uniswap then get in on Stakenet. It’s layer 2 solving the scalability and congestion problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 23:05:29 2020 No.22676375 >>22675995 Yes/Yes & No KYC

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 23:20:36 2020 No.22676699 >>22676133 checked

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 23:33:29 2020 No.22676951 >>22675796 >major impact on the industry in what way? >between the concepts its been inventing and building upon for years trying to invent a working exchange?

Anonymous Sun Sep 20 23:48:11 2020 No.22677208
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>>22676951
XSN was building towards L2, Lightning, and Raiden well over a year ago and it was only a few weeks after XSN started attracting industry attention from Vortex and some of the things listed in the OP that you had several ICOs pop up offering to do exactly what XSN has been working to do alone all this time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 20 23:58:04 2020 No.22677363 nice shill, you put some time into it, let wikipedia tell you why stakenet has no chance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 00:00:42 2020 No.22677416 >>22677363 Stakenet actually HAS first mover advantage, you absolute retard, lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 00:09:05 2020 No.22677552 >>22677363 Retard. Stakenet is first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 00:20:14 2020 No.22677733 farming shitcoins is where the money is at, uniswap is king, show me how to farm shitcoins with Stakenet RN

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 00:23:16 2020 No.22677773 >>22677363 Taking into consideration the work that XSN has already accomplished on LN and Raiden - years of work.. What would be more the more sensible investment here? Working ecosystems that are already built, or the promise of one eventually?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 00:52:48 2020 No.22678253 >>22677363 who is first mover in your estimation? where is your money going?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 01:26:10 2020 No.22678714 >>22677363 what a retard kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 01:30:28 2020 No.22678776 >>22675796 I'd consider buying this but never used any of the exchanges it's listed on. Why is it on 3 literal who exchanges and that's it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 01:37:02 2020 No.22678882 File: 41 KB, 470x470, haha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22677733 >skips the x100 so he can farm curry scams ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 01:38:49 2020 No.22678907 >>22675796 I think stakenet is gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 01:43:12 2020 No.22678979 >>22675796 This shitcoin is down 80% from ATH it's literally WORTHLESS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 02:18:32 2020 No.22679485 >>22678907 you sir are the big gay, perhaps the biggest gay on this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 03:28:50 2020 No.22680383 >>22678979 Unbased low IQ cope ngmi XSN $100 2021

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 03:49:39 2020 No.22680696

>>22680383
>you had 2 years
Coin remained worthless in 2 years and will remain worthless for another 2 years. Fuck you, even your cloud is a scam, we were still paying for the MN hosting despite the VPNs were down. I sold all my masternodes and bought 6k UNI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 03:50:27 2020 No.22680712 File: 26 KB, 332x1024, 1596874209186.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22675796 >not even $1 >will blame this on BTC HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:10:18 2020 No.22681052 >>22676133 Bought 15MN at $0.05 comfy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:32:22 2020 No.22681406 Stakenet is building an ecosystem ,the DEX is just one part of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:46:05 2020 No.22681633 >>22680696 Yeah cause every coin goes big in 2 years or its failed lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:48:01 2020 No.22681669 >>22675796 >n00b00nt00 arch, gentoo or bust

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:55:46 2020 No.22681782 >>22675796 Yeah but where do I even buy it? Spoonfeed me plz

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:10:18 2020 No.22682000 >>22677363 >>22677416 lol that guy, wtf.. indeed stakenet is the first doing this shit...

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:13:07 2020 No.22682047

>>22675796
Listen, the only reason stakenet generals got juicy again was Scott from Statera, he put xsn into the crypto blue chip pool, his arguments for undervaluation were sharp and on point. Statera is the only reason I secured myself 5 MN without knowing to much about it. Whats the make it stack with stakenet. 10 MN?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:35:48 2020 No.22682465 >>22677733 *flipping

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:44:43 2020 No.22682653 >>22682047 1 MN is the make it stack.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:08:30 2020 No.22683098

>>22675796
here is the thing, I don't like the fact that the dev made this video
it's like he's showing off.. but what he has in that video is nothing to be proud about
if the site would be available for everyone and would work it would be huge
but it's not
so I can't recommend I investing into the project, it makes no sense and the risk is too high

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:09:32 2020 No.22683115 >>22682653 Cant be true, supply to high.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:13:14 2020 No.22683194 >>22683098 dumb post, it's working on linux and being ported. Glad you're not buying xsn pajeet

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:16:29 2020 No.22683263 >>22683098 It's not a website brown id

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:18:20 2020 No.22683302 >>22682653 1mn is suicide 3 is make it 10 is fuck you money. Ofc there's a variation of 10 make it and 50 fuck you but that's just a meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:19:32 2020 No.22683329 >>22675796 OP address this >>22680712 Right now you can't, your shit coin can't handle any big movements from BTC its a shit coin thats it. No one outside of the discord uses it and even then thats a stretch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:31:10 2020 No.22683583 >>22683329 nobody knows what you're trying to say you smelly turkroach

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:51:47 2020 No.22684033 >>22683194 >>22683263 why is it not a web based exchange we've all seen what happened with standalone exchanges

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:56:58 2020 No.22684116 >>22684033 Because hosting a web app is highly centralized. It's very easy to take those servers down - but eradicating a zip file is practically impossible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:02:12 2020 No.22684223 >>22684116 good point, but that will keep it from taking off

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:13:00 2020 No.22684467 >>22675796 does the team have plans to step up advertising/get on larger exchanges once raiden comes out? volume isn't going to magically appear on the dex

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:17:04 2020 No.22684553 >>22684223 No it won't. People download bullshit without a second though these days. Tik tok/zoom chinese spyware. Windows microsoft spyware. And every other fucking program out there. XSN is extremely lightweight so people will download.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:02:13 2020 No.22685555

>>22684223
I see your point, but when you DYOR you see that Stakenet is so far ahead as a package than any other single project that this is a bit of a non-issue - the products will be worth the slight weirdness of it not being a web app, and the app itself is pretty comfy anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:26:04 2020 No.22686105 WE STABLE COIN NOW

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:26:21 2020 No.22686111 >>22685555 it definitely looks comfy, but as long as it's still not out I'm not buying anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:26:57 2020 No.22686129 >>22685555 >>22686111 Checked. Typically you invest in something before they complete what they are doing.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:41:10 2020 No.22686479

>>22686129
or when no one knows about it
I know two solid projects with working products, only reason they aren't in the top 50 is because no one knows about them
those are your best bet to actually making it

if you invest in a unfinished product make sure the people who say they can do it actually have the experience to back it up

not shit like sta and similar bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:51:37 2020 No.22686712 >>22686479 Its a fair strategy, but of course the risk reward is higher for unfinished projects. Being in the discord and seeing how the devs behave themselves and talk with members including myself has given me a lot of faith in them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:07:12 2020 No.22687152 >>22686712 >the risk reward is higher stake has a 20m mc my pick has half of that, so the risk is lower and the reward higher not trying to fud, I'd love for stake to succeed

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:17:08 2020 No.22687418

is anyone here in the linux test goup. i have limited knowledge of linux so i don't know how intensive it is, but i'm going to ask a friend of mine to go in and test it. just because i have a feeling they're not showing the whole procedure for a reason. the webm in op show the very end steps. why isn't there a video of sending the eth onto raiden etc. that's my only gripe with xsn at this point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:38:06 2020 No.22687921 >>22684467 yes. expectation is full live release once raiden is in place, and marketing/trade promotions to go with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:39:29 2020 No.22687954 >>22687152 That's not really how it works - your pick will never pump if no one ever hears about it, so you have to factor that in. What is it by the way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:41:16 2020 No.22688015 >>22687418 >literally can't believe how advanced this project is I sense a buyer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:44:26 2020 No.22688098 File: 344 KB, 1440x1673, Screenshot_20200921-094409_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22676699 Checked

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:46:52 2020 No.22688165 >>22687954 prq and assblaser's second pick

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:51:00 2020 No.22688308 >>22688165 what the fuck is assblaser, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:52:26 2020 No.22688348 >>22688308 newfags get the rope dyor lurk more ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:52:37 2020 No.22688352 >>22688308 Newfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:57:44 2020 No.22688482 >>22676133 Good quality shill, might actually buy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 10:06:49 2020 No.22688729 >>22688348 no :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 10:28:49 2020 No.22689356 >>22688352 boomer

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 10:45:51 2020 No.22690070

>>22683098
>>22687418
>dev
Last I heard, there were at least 2 dozen testers in the private Raiden group. Probably more than that.
>>22683329
XSN was 600 sat 3 months ago. It broke out for weeks and hit 4750 - pulling an almost 8x. Its been holding mostly between 1.8k-2.2k sat lately. It will more than likely break 5k sat and test upwards of 8k sat the next time it rallies. All in all, it has traded exceptionally well against Bitcoin these past few months.
>>22688308
I was led to believe it is a romhack of the Sunsoft classic 'Blaster Master' done by a mysterious coder named Serg Ayy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 10:48:37 2020 No.22690175 >>22675796 >Stakenet has quietly had a major impact on the industry Prove yourself right. Some numbers on adoption please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 11:00:45 2020 No.22690653 >>22690175 I can't wait to talk about Stakenet's biggest fud, its current adoption, after my stack has 5x'd.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 11:03:53 2020 No.22690762

>>22690175
>>22677208
Addressed here. I'd like to add that outside of Stakenet DEX, there is virtually 0 adoption of Lightning Network for atomic swaps and that the push for certain ERC tokens to become interoperable with Raiden mostly came weeks if not months after X9 and Raiden were working together.
The private testing room for the LN wallet started out with only a handful of testers. Less than 10 would not be surprising. By the week before Stakenet DEX went into open beta, there were at least 200 in the private test with many more asking to join. It essentially got too big to be private.
As it gets more usable and convenient, considerably more will adopt it.

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