/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>22662902
*should be “make the mistakes they don’t want to make”

>>22662902
If lobbying is freedom of speech, why isn't trading?

>>22662902
Lmaooooo good luck bud

>>22662902
Uniswap wont because they essentially gave stake in their company away for free to its users. This was why they did it. The SEC can't touch them now because they don't hold the voting power

>>22662902
Source?

>>22662902
Have sex incel

>>22662902
Good. Defi and farming are ponzi schemes

>>22662925
Lending activities are government by the federal reserve system, its Act, the FDIC and state banking regulations.

Speech isn’t a regulated monopoly. It’s not the fundamental power source of modern states.

>>22662902
Lol terrifying

>>22662902
Yes, obviously, but also fuck them.

>>22662902
Ok creg

>>22662957
That’s pretty badass

i wouldnt be surprised if this is really happening. the kikes are scared shitless of people like us gaining money and power.

>>22662957
Still missing the point. It’s not about control over the protocol, it’s about LENDING ACTIVITIES. Users are not regulated lenders. Their ACTIVITIES are thus illegal.

>>22663056
ya its easily the most based thing a company or organization has ever done. Unironically, there will be movies made about this event in 15-20 years.

>>22662902
You write like a nasal pitched kike

Someones mad they didnt get that free 400 UNI

>>22662902
Ban DeFi

Do you even realize how vauge of a term this is and nonsensical it would be to try something this retarded with your larping ass.

>>22662902
which part of unstoppable smart contract on an immutable blockchain is to complicated for you?

>>22662902
For some reason this is reminding me of when Bitcoin was supposed to be banned.

How do we know the banks are not behind all this already?

Created these "bans" to increase the value..

>>22663086
Thats interesting because the SEC literally removed the income requirements to be an accredited investor this year. This directly covers what you're talking about, you don't need to be accredited now to trade securities

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-191
>“For the first time, individuals will be permitted to participate in our private capital markets not only based on their income or net worth, but also based on established, clear measures of financial sophistication. I am also pleased that we have expanded and updated the list of entities, including tribal governments and other organizations, that may qualify to participate in certain private offerings.”

>>22662902
Good luck when DEX's (and Nectar) exist.

Just like they tried to ban alcohol and gambling.

>>22663158
>>22663174
See
>>22663086

It’s astounding how difficult it is for DeFi purists and the crypto revolutionary wing to understand I am not saying the smart contract will be halted.

But the actions themselves will be made illegal (they are already btw). And the fact that the actions are illegal means that 99.9% of normies, INCLUDING YOU, will stop doing it.

>>22663209
Investing is not lending.

>pink CIA ID
thanks just sold 100k defi

>>22663086
Smart contracts can be audited and thus regulated by the very nature that they are simply code

>>22663253
Dont see this being viable at all. Far too vauge. You might stop one or two issues that will only spawn 4 more and so forth and will always be playing catch up.

>>22663253
How many "normies" do you think even know what defi is right now?
A federal ban would only make them more aware and want to check it out. Loans? Interest? Govt. Is scared of it? It's probably just the boost we'd need to make it

>>22663336
>>22663413
Let’s try it again.

Lending -activities- are regulated by numerous state and federal bodies. It’s not difficult to describe what lending activities are. The regulations already do it. They already exist. And they say that to LEND MONEY you need to be regulated and approved by them.

This power if the fundamental basis for the modern state and they will not cede it to you. Any number of media horror stories will be constructed as necessary to support this.

>>22663420
Those same normies don’t follow the actions of Federal regulators outside maybe changing the interest rate. If they banned Uniswap nobody would notice.

>>22662902
Oogy boogey, stay away from crypto kids, it might be illegal (sometimes)

>>22662902
You'll never catch me
hachachachacha

>>22663420
That's what I'm wondering, they're want to drive people toward it.

See.. >>22663205

>>22662902
>Defi
>Banned
Pick one

>>22662902
OP is a faggot, probably a pedophile too..

Fuck the US government.

>>22663253
>that the actions are illegal means
They're worth more money.

hahahahahaha most original UNI fud so far fren, good troll ;)

>blocks your path

>>22663500
Crypto isn’t money though. They are assets and securities. It’s like owning a home and collecting rent. I get paid for people to rent my crypto

>>22663697
but I view my wallet in USD and that makes it money?

>>22663500
Media Horror Stories.

As if people dont do exactly the opposite of what the media says and hasnt lost all trust in them.

But yeah good luck banning DeFi, this wont work btw.

>>22663730
You could view your wallet in ps5s.

trump will be president. so no. but in case he's not going to be, then yes, yes we all are fucked. cryptotrading would be taxed to the max if dems win. retards pls do your research and vote for trump you fucking faggots.

>>22663730
the government taxes investments not money. They can’t really call it money until they stop taxing it

>>22662902
good luck with that glowie

>>22663697
>I get paid for people to rent my crypto
Just like banks get paid for people to rent their money right? This is a poor argument and won’t go anywhere before a federal judge who will vote in favor of the state that installed him.

>>22663756
The media stories aren’t necessary, they will just help pave the justification.

>>22662902
Good now my boomer coins can finally moon

>>22663086
These noobs don’t get that lending money out essentially makes you a money transmitter which is serious shit legally

not illegal where i'm from.
Gotta suck to be an americuck!

>>22663086
>muh USA
>muh SEC
Get fucked, you can't do shit.

>t. was to scared to use uniswap and fell for food meme

>>22662902
Where are we moving to, boys?

>>22662902
Remember OP, the Bank always wins. Unfortunately for (you), (you) don't know who the major player is in this game. And he already made his move a long time ago.
Nice try though.

>>22664043
who is it and what was his big move ser?

>>22663851
Hey I think it’s a great argument. I’m not the one who said crypto are assets/securities the government said that. I’ll believe this may happen if the government actually starts treating crypto like money

>>22664065
>>22664065
A system can always be replaced. And we bear witness to the genesis of such a change. Names won't do the task justice, but it was not ((them)).

>>22664065
Do not just seek the pyramid, seek the eye.

Don't feed the glowniggers. Ignore thier threads

>>22663086
Look at me I am the lender now

>>22663253
how would the action itself be illegal? You literally put your gains through a mixer or trade it for some other altcoin, send it to another address and convert it back. So many ways to obfuscate the action that the idea is not worth the paper it would be on

>>22662902
They have bigger things to worry about than internet tokens right now.

>>22662902
Fear tactic hoping to get cheap coins

>>22662902
the us government has less power than you think. Anonymity on ethereum is coming with zkrollups

>>22664720
thank god, sniping on the mempool is a real shitshow right now

>>22662902
I actually see this coming as well.
I'm glad you verbalized it for me.

There's no way the American government will allow anyone to keep slaughtering them like an ISIS video, especially their own citizens.

They're going to seal bitcoin and cut off Americans from ever having a hand in it. All of the world governments will do this. India is a prelude to the end of bitcoin as we know it.

>>22664737
it won't help frontrunning that's a separate issue

>>22664780
>>22662902
They can probably ban the coins under a "Gambling" law or something or other.

>>22662902
Just encourage banks to adopt crypto, ez

XRP will be the standard then

>>22664947
>Encourage banks to adopt what may as well be money laundering

Lmao.
I think bitcoin is only going to be around for like 2 or 3 more years, and then it'll be gone forever.

People are carving millions of dollars in cash from their countries for themselves out of it every year. The world governments abhor bitcoin and want to destruct it.

>>22663084
Pretty sure it's to protect the people who don't read and understand the whitepapers

>>22664947
>>22665015
It'll end-up you cashing out in Chinese Yuan and transferring it over to USD, and then China will ban it, and then that'll be the end of crypto.

Make hay while the sun shines

>>22662902
t. increasingly nervous BNB/OKB/HT/LEO/GT bagholder

>>22663158
It wouldn’t be hard at all

>The websites will be seized

you realize there is no "websites" right?

>>22662902
Glad I'm not in a 3rd world shithole called USA. Kek.

>>22664622
>>22664720
The people in this space are really strange. I make a claim that an action will be made illegal and you seem to think I’m discussing a technical aspect of blockchain.

Walking down the street is illegal if I’m the government and I write it down in the criminal statutes. Do you understand what I’m saying?

You can use zk-whatever, fruit roll ups, hot pockets and tendies. Whatever you want. If the government DEFINES it as illegal - it’s illegal.

At that point you’re in a completely different situation. It’s no longer about technology, it’s about politics. Your appeal to mass adoption now becomes tantamount to a revolution. Good luck with convincing normies to risk their freedom and families just to buy into DeFi projects offering decent yield rates. It’s not a tempting proposal.

Say it ain't so bros...
How am I supposed to get rich now

>>22665141
That’s interesting. What is Uniswap.org then?

>>22662902
OOOOH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEE

>>22665204
it can be illegal, but if the government can't enforce the law, does it matter?

>>22665298
First of all, plenty of people will not want to risk openly violating federal law. There is inherent risk in that, which brings me to my second point. You don’t know what the government is actually capable of enforcing because many of their technologies are classified. They may have the capability to track certain activities you believed were anonymous.

There are other mechanisms to enforce laws without directly cracking an encryption mechanism. Political pressure on fiat banks for one.

As dissidents will tell you, it may be impossible to directly outlaw certain thoughts, but governments can make it very very difficult to exist as a dissident. You will feel the pressure one way or another.

>>22662902

If it ever takes off in a big way, then yes. The simplest way to characterize Defi is that it simply creates a fiat lending market nominated in various cryptos and outside the fractional reserve banking system. Crypto is zero sum--- it has no cash flows or profits, and the only way you make money in it is by having more people inject more fiat into the system to buy at higher prices, making it currently a pyramid-type scheme. Further, crypto can't really be spent on anything and no one is accumulating it to go and use on dapps. Which means that anyone borrowing or loaning is doing so ultimately to be able to turn it back into useful fiat.

This is a big problem for fiat. One of the key ways the money supply is expanded is the way fractional reserve banks can "mint" more from thin air when they lend. If they're required to have 10% cash reserves for what they're lending out, they can create $100,000 out of thin air as long as they have $10,000. That 100K then ends up in another bank or another account at the same bank, increasing their lending power by ten every time someone takes out a loan. It's a crucial way economic activity is stimulated. If everyone began doing all their lending and borrowing in the Defi ecosystem, fiat would experience a deflationary crisis, and the issuing governments would stomp out extra-bank lending in a heartbeat.

>>22662902
>Freedom
Funny how mericans pride their nation on freedom but can't use Tiktok or Binance and now crypto might be banned

>>22663500
Will they shit it down as effectively as they did with the pirate bay? I mean that thing just disappeared didn't it?

Oh wait....

>>22663851
You've failed to understand the whole power of crypto currency. You cannot effectively "ban" people playing with tokens under law. And you cannot use the excuse that some people "sell" them for fiat to punish everyone.

There is no legal mechanism for this.

>>22665814
See
>>22665204

>>22665814
it wouldn't be that hard for the government to stop banks allowing you to deposit money onto crypto exchanges etc

>>22665204
Write down the law. How will they phrase it? Once we have that it will be circumvented within 7 days another level of remove.

If you think they can stop this without destroying their own system YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND LAW.

>>22665714
There has never been freedom in the USA. The last bit of it died in 1913. The USA is a corporation run by absurdely evil and subhuman kikes.

>>22665814
the ban also doesn't need to be 100% effective, people will always find a way but its certainly gona put a pretty much insurmountable barrier in front of mass adoption

>>22665714
Tiktok will be fine once Trump has forced the Chinese to sell it to the chosen. Any big tech platform not owned by them is anti semitism.

>>22665832
If they could have made BTC illegal they would have.

They can't. Law rests on deeply rooted principles. the more they chip away at these principles the less they have holding the US together.

I repeat YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND LAW

>>22662902
Any actual reason you think US regulators will make a 180 on this? Or are you just salty for missing out on something you don't understand

>>22665877
>>22665979
See
>>22663500

Try to keep up, and please, stay mad.

>>22664812
They can just ban it and that's it. Without any justification whatsoever. Like your great F. D. Roosevelt didn't allow you to have gold and silver.

>>22665999
Allowing cryptocurrencies to exist is independent from allowing DeFi to claim the entire lending industry.

It would not be a 180 to deny the proliferation of DeFi. In fact it is readily predictable that the state would do it when you understand the fundamental power of modern states IS central banking.

>>22665909
Torrenting is illegal. They failed to stop it and eventually gave up. Gen X'ers and below loathe the authoritarianism of these banking oligarchies and will not comply.

They might try. Some "lending terrorists" will go to jail. They will fail and the central authority and a certain race's control will collapse even more.

You underestimate how precarious the situation is. The NWO had a time window for completion. They missed it. Now it's just a shitshow until someone makes something better.

>>22662902
Good, fuck all those chink and kike scammers. Take all their assets.

>>22666001
I'm not mad. I'm happy. And banning it won't work.

I agree this power is the basis of the modern state, but their grip is slipping now and the harder they try to pull it back the faster they'll lose it.

They needed a NWO to achieve this. They didn't get it.

>>22665141
kek what do you mean? where do you get your crypto?

>>22666094
You have no fucking clue what the fuck you're rambling on about. Go back to redbit faggot nigger.

>>22666094
If your end goal is to become a black market website that nobody in the legitimate marketplace can deal with, then perhaps your dreams for DeFi will pan out.

But people in this space believe that DeFi will replace other fiat lending systems. But it seems a bit difficult to run a legitimate economy from a blacklisted website that violates the laws of the state.

OP posted this hoping that a bunch of anons would come in and explain why it wont be banned. Funny thing is, it WILL be banned kek

>>22666094
those are not directly comparable issues. Also crypto is arguably much easier to put barriers in front of, for example if you cannot deposit money via your bank, cash out or access exchanges its not gona be easy

>>22666211
Not really, I know that it will be banned once it presents a threat. It’s pretty pathetic watching the attempts at arguing against my stance.

>B-blockchains are I-immutable
These kids are so naive. I want to inject a bit of humility into this board of arrogant autists.

The best part is not a single one of them will violate the law once it comes into effect. They will all fall in line.

>>22666298
starting to sound like someone that didn't get the uni airdrop kek

>>22666298
ahyes, laws! everybody follows them!
just make a fake account and use vpn to trade and shit... anyway, if it's made illigal, people are gonna find a way. boohoo the government is gonna find you! like they find all those murderers and dealers, right... lol

>>22666372
400 UNI wouldn’t make a dent in my portfolio.

Once normans get wind of Defi and crypto being rayciss it will be """banned"""

>>22663209
Wait does this mean burgers can use linkpool now?

>>22666372

poorfag cope

>>22666443

holy...

what you stupid zoomers need to understand is when it's banned, whether or not YOU can still access it, it will completely destroy the market evaluations of all things defi. In brainlet language that means all your shitcoins: number go very down

>>22666540
>t. didn't get free uni either
the last message was projecting serious edgy rage onto bizlets

>>22665468
I know my government, and it's incompetent. That's why if they would be forced to ban it through any supranational entity, I have no fear of being caught. But I understand your sentiment, I guess. At that point, however, when they would start banning crypto, I have no doubt people would start protesting. Just a small bunch at first, the crypto lads. But because there's such a large negative sentiment harbored for most world governments, these would start collecting the necessary critical mass to kick them out of their comfy offices onto the street. No one likes bankers and bureaucrats, and no one likes having their freedoms infringed on for some elites' benefit. Yes, what you're saying can happen, and it would hurt crypto landscape a lot. But this wouldn't be indefinitely, because we're soon going to be at a boiling point where people have had enough.

>>22664800
From my understanding ETH will get some privacy features, so you might be able to conceal what payload you're actually sending, just for reasons like these

Technology allowed rampant outsourcing of jobs especially high paying tech jobs to pajeets in India as well as automation of jobs basically fucking the entire US job market up and destroying opportunities for the youth.

>Nothing gets done

>Cryptocurrency threatens the centralized banks
BAN THE TECH BAN IT FUCKING BAN IT HOLY SHIT BAAAAAAN.

Wish I was surprised.

>>22666298

The same thing you're saying about Defi was said 10 years ago about Bitcoin.

>>22666068
Legislators and regulators in the US have been quite clear for years now that they don't want to take a draconic stance on the development of open financial protocols as long as the space is regulated and the users are paying taxes. Do you have any tangible, salient reasoning for believing there will be a hard line prohibition, or are you just operating from the foggy feeling that this steps on the toes of the powers that be, and that instead of studying them, coopting them, and bringing them into the fold, they'll go for a ban - something that has never worked in the history of the world when it comes to physical goods - they'll take that hamfisteded approach on something completely digital and by its nature permissionless and decentralized? After seeing other countries try, without success, to outright ban Bitcoin? Why do you think they'd act stupidly on this and risk shooting themselves in the foot, rather than a calculated response to keep it under their thumb. You sound like a teenager who smoked a joint and had a 'revelation' that the Jewish banking cabal won't possibly allow this to continue. Get fucking real, either produce an argument of substance or gtfo

>>22666605

you and the rest of the poorfags with your $200 'stacks' of PNK and shit are the EXACT reason this place is terrible now. and yeah I got my shitty worthless UNI, now get cummed on fucking poorfag zoomer newfag

>>22666753
>>22666793
People underestimate the power of the state to manage threats to its sovereignty. It’s obvious that there will be a currency adaptation of some sort in the near future, and people in blockchain believe that this change must include fully embracing the “decentralization” ethos of the space.

I’m saying that governments will leverage the emerging tech of blockchain to create a controlled new system that also “feels” as though it addresses the underlying problems people have with “bankers” and “inflation” etc.

Imagine a CBDC blockchain system that also has a few shortlisted approved cryptos, BigCompany Coins, and fancy JPMorgan DeFi, all with NEW WORLD 3.0 hype marketing everywhere you look.

Do you think normies would understand or care whether this is “true” DeFi? And do you think it would whet the appetite for a change in banking?

This will be a controlled evolution, like all others.

>>22666809
See
>>22666978

We basically agree.

>>22666211
As banned as The Pirate Bay?

Fucking useless cunts couldn't even ban that.

ahahahahahahahahahah

>>22663253
>It’s astounding how difficult it is for DeFi purists and the crypto revolutionary wing to understand I am not saying the smart contract will be halted.
DeFI was always bound to be a small part of the global eco-system since any meaningful part of finance relies on its ability to be enforced by courts of law. The concept of decentralizing legal authority should frighten everyone.

>But the actions themselves will be made illegal (they are already btw). And the fact that the actions are illegal means that 99.9% of normies, INCLUDING YOU, will stop doing it.

True. Most of DeFI will be integrated. Smart contracts and immutable, permissionless ledgers aren't going away.
Smart contracts are niche however the applications are incredibly valuable.

>>22666978
Explain the failure to ban TPB

>>22667049
I already did here
>>22666200

And seriously, take your meds. You’re an embarrassment to your cause.

>>22666809
>You sound like a teenager who smoked a joint and had a 'revelation' that the Jewish banking cabal won't possibly allow this to continue.

hardly something to have a 'revelation' about, it's literally fucking obscenely obvious. Sometimes truth hides in plain sight.

>>22664996
Hahaha fuckin this
YOU FUCKIN RETARDS

>>22666978
I have no doubt that over time institutions and the free market will gobble up the hype and try to enter the industry en masse. I do have reservations on whether existing players will gain a sufficient foothold to maintain or compete in it and new titans will rise in their place. As the saying goes, out with the old, in with the new. And as much as everyone wants to fight it, the taxman and regulators will have its due, but I still think there will be enough loopholes for illegal activities to go through unnoticed - but this is already the case with cash, so no net difference will be made.

>>22667073

and yet no one who isn't a boomer or a SJW pays for films now.

they lost on that and they'll lose on this

>>22663812
Based
https://youtu.be/x1FW36keZJw

So basically from what I gather op is mad he didn't have a uniswap account before Sept. 1st?

>>22667286
I'll believe it when I see it. If digits then XRP will go straight into the garbage.

>>22662902
kinda obvious at this point in all those scams running, also you can delete UNISWAP right ?

only thing thats needed is one signature, inventor of UNI gets a qucik trip to FBI basement, and everything is gone.

you can take another approach and ISP's in USA will ban accessing the website, nobody will go to darknet or whatever to use fuckin UNI coz there will be no liquidity.

everyone was so smug about Binance, then in a blink of an eye they got shutdown in USA, KYC requirement happened that fast aswell.

if they want it, they can do it.

>>22667022
This isn't downloading top gun.
This is downloading $5000 dollars

>>22663005
>Lending activities are government by the federal reserve system, its Act, the FDIC and state banking regulations.

>hey dude can you lend me a few bucks?
>akshualy no because the federal reserve and the FDIC and the state banking regulations won't allow me to m'kay

>>22662902
nigga they can't. why do u think we are here?

>>22668096
So is it illegal to loan my friends money?

>>22662902
>all individual users will be violating the law
not everyone lives in burgerstan

>>22665877
This

>>22666474
you still have to take the test

>>22666159
>FUD
Go fuck yourself, bootlicker

>>22667995
this. half the retards here are arguing about the technical aspect of shutting down sites.
the OP mentioned the legal and cultural aspect. government law pivots societal norms. you retards have no idea how ruthless they can get when it comes to protecting the USD. they've killed leaders in the middle east for that. you think they wont issue an order to make some shitty internet tokens illegal?

>>22666978
I do think this is a possibility, but the decentralized and borderless aspects of DeFi projects gives us a strong counter narrative. In your scenario, we're dealing with cryptocurrency being normalized, but don't forget that the more cryptocurrency is accepted by the norm, the less people will be skeptic about projects within the space. People only rely on big institutions when dealing with traditional finance because they lack/don't know other options, on top of that, by then, those institutions would need to compete with well stablished projects like YFI, for example.

>>22662902
glowniggers seething. Embrace it, it will make the CIA terrorist activities easier

>>22662902
You are going to deep and to basic at the same time.
You have to understand the first thing: CRYPTO AS THE WHOLE IS WORTH NOTHING, it's virtual shit created out of thin air, it's lines of codes. It's actually nothing, it starts to have value when you reach exchanges and valuate crypto in dollars or other fiat. This is where comes the tax man and ask you to explain your cash origin. Why these lenders and other scams still not regulated? because they still play in the boundaries where people "trade virtual nothing" and regulation can't reach them, there is no law base to stop them, once somebody starts to wave dollar sign attached to virtual nothing and there is substantial evidence of fiat being transferred as a loan, those players will be sacked. Everything is crypto is still in a phase where assets have no "branding". Once it gets it, prepare to pay taxes, I wouldn't be surprised they will tax you on years prior, it's US after all.
Second view:
The websites will be seized, and the activities themselves will be made illegal, meaning that all individual users will be violating the law
These projects will die on their own, they aren't that advanced. It's first sand box, like those cryptokitties and your virtual plants, today it's popular, tomorrow "it's shit, I don't understand how to set up trade bot for it".

>>22668876

one of the only people ITT that has any idea what they're talking about

>>22663086
>Their ACTIVITIES are thus illegal

>>22668876
I forgot to put that little arrow
>The websites will be seized, and ...

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>>22665232
It’s uniswap.exchange

>>22665232
the frontend, an interface

>>22668038

To round off this thread I'll explain why OP is wrong

A NWO was supposed to be in place by now. Ben Gurion talked about Jerusalem as the centre of a world government. Russia was supposed to be balkanised into warring factions run and asset stripped by (((oligarchs))) and ((the chosen elite))) were going to make the great leap to China where they would rule a technocratic tyranny whilst the US collapsed.

The Arab Middle East and Iran would have been destroyed by US imperialism, Israel would fill the void, taking over vast swathes of land, becoming THE oil power and emptying the former arab states into the white countries of the world under a refugee tidal wave, forever destroying European blood.

We'd then have Israel as a superpower in the middle East. America would be Mad Max chaos, as would Russia.

Then usury would have been used to complete the NWO with a jewish China as greatest ally to Israel.

Luckily for us they fucked up big time. Putin foiled them in Russia and Xi turned out to be terrifyingly capable and not at all keen on accepting a new Jewish ruling elite. The (((great leap))) was cancelled and the chosen are forced to try and resuscitate a country they had almost totally zombified which is now very close to reaching critical mass on an awareness of their tricks. Hence the Steinlight plan we're seeing under the guise of Qanon.

Any draconian legal measures implemented in the US will quicken Russia and China's attempt to do what Hitler did. Namely break away from Jewish usury. From there we would quickly see what a country COULD be without the parasitical banking system drinking its blood. Other nations who are sick of this system would quickly follow

Ergo no financial tyranny and the need for the financial system to tread carefully whilst the chosen try to move to a plan B which will, at best, lead to them slowly losing power in almost every country in the West

Cute, but nah. Would love to see them try but they know better then to humiliate themselves that much. Remember the shit show when they tried to get rid of thepiratebay? Would love a rerun.

>>22662902

Well now this thread backfired on you didn't it?

I capped my own post as a souvenir for you. Feel free to show your boss.

>>22663005
But the Federal reserve is not part of any branch of the federal government.

>>22669464
You literally wrote some schizo screed, screencapped it yourself, posted it in another reply and declared that you won the thread?

I told you before to take your meds. People like you seem to be attracted to XRP check it out.

>>22669604
We've heard (((take your meds))) a lot lately. Almost like it's a line you're told to use.

We've also all seen the (((you can't escape your taxes just pay them))) threads

Any draconian moves on crypto will collapse the system. It's an idea whose time has come just as (((fractional reserve usury))) is an idea whose time has passed.

So yes, I won the thread.

>>22669532
Shhhhhh anon, he doesn't want anyone to know that

>>22669363
>Putin foiled them in Russia and Xi turned out to be terrifyingly capable
You need to stop taking your "meds" and give some to me. I wish I was this high and delusional.

>>22669690
he did win tho.

>>22669879

(((The chosen))) had to cancel the great leap to China due to Xi's nationalism. And Putin put (((the oligarchs))) in prison until they acted like Russians

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/01/protocols-of-learned-elders-of-wye.html

Ben Gurion's dream is in tatters

>>22668136
>So is it illegal to loan my friends money?

yes. you can't practice usury unless you wear a small hat and are unable to use a lightswitch at the weekend.

Another good reason to not be an American.

Sucks to be you kek

>>22670076
If they canceled a shift to China, which I do not believe was ever in order, it was canceled because they realized that nothing "competent" has happened in China for several thousand years. The modern nation of China is quickly becoming an uninhabitable wasteland wherein every structure is not fit to stand for more than a few years. The kikes never intended to make China a base of operations, just another cow to be slaughtered. Most of the high level kikes don't give a fuck about Israel except as another pawn on the board. The big bloodlines are well read enough to know that the entire Abrahamic tradition is a series of frauds created for population control purposes. They are right at home being the overlords of Europe and America; they know Europeans are the only ones capable of creating the wonders of civilization which they so dearly enjoy. They don't want to live in fucking China or the ME and they certainly don't want to live surrounded by their own tribesmen.

Putin is a front man for the shadow government that existed before the collapse of the USSR. He's buddies with all the oligarchs because they all answer the same masters.

>>22662902
When do you foresee this happening?
Surely corona and the whole fucking up livelihoods and economy thing is enough to keep Uncle Sam out of the pockets of neets for six months more.

>>22670653
Incorrect on many issues.

China was the template for technocratic control. They expected to be at the top there.

Remember these people value power, control and humiliation of others above all else.

Putin is not buddies with the oligarchs.That's London (((propaganda))) - all part of operation Beluga. He stopped them collapsing Russia, brought them into line without provoking a war against Russia and has made Russia strong enough to defy the NEOCONS. Putin could be in Paris in 2 weeks if need be and NATO knows it.

Based and Stakepilled

How long have we got to make this money and get out do you reckon OP?

>>22670869
No you fucking retard, all of the technocratic control policies in China were pioneered in the West. Their social credit system is based on our credit score system and black box data aggregation industry. Do you think they developed all that face recognition shit? Of course not, because it works. Since it works, it was developed by Europeans (or the Japanese). The Chink leadership is "ahead of the game" in rolling that shit out because they know that they are only a few years away from the sort of collapse that preppers in the US masturbate over. Their industrial centers are poisoning the land, water and air. Their cities are crumbling out from beneath them. Their population is a huge number of retarded insects. The fringe ethnic groups already want civil war and the only recourse to prevent it is to shift the food shortages onto them and send them to camps. The list of disasters that China is facing surpasses all other nations. The Chink leadership is scrambling to set up the technotyranny system because they know that it will be necessary to keep their own countrymen from eating them. Even then, the low ranking officials reject that shit because it exposes their own corruption. The entire Chinese system is fucked in every way.

The thing that the kikes value above all others is comfort. Power and control let them be comfortable. Humiliating others is comfortable. Living in a toxic hellscape served by legions of bugmen is not comfy. China is something they pillaged and which will continue to be pillaged until every last bit of value has been transferred to Europe and America. That's why you've got Chink military leaders pulling credit scams with fake gold instead of paying the way for everything and anything with shadow banked bearer bonds.

>Putin could be in Paris in 2 weeks if need be
But there is no need, the Putin answers to the same masters as NATO. The entire Cold War was theater to justify various enormous projects both industrial and social.

>>22670786
>>22670925
Oh look, sudden 'organic' interest for OP's position in a thread in which he's been discredited.

>>22670243

as if that wont affect you also you absolute fucking brainlet

>>22671411

probably samefagging but the fact is he wasn't discredited at all

>>22666474
>now
Nothing stopped burgers before

>>22671355
You're getting angry anon....

I agree China aren't particularly effective at innovation. However that's what the technocratic control grid was going to remedy. No more innovation would have been needed and the (((chosen))) could have used their trillions to buy and marry into the Chinese elite.

Their plan to 'leap' to China is in the mainstream, as is Xi's obvious blocking of it and the sudden kvetching and (((media))) hostility.

You do not know the chosen if you think they value comfort above all else. Their mission is race mixing and world standardisation for everyone. Only they would survive this so it's their final victory condition.

China is horribly corrupt but Xi is purging the commies at an amazing rate. He's drained the swamp in a way Trump never could. Perhaps the CCP are regretting killing Xi's family now...

Putin has stated explicitly that there will be no NWO in Russia. Look at his Valdai speech from a few years ago.

No idea whether you're muddying the water or genuinely think you're right. Either way be happy. The side of good is winning for the first time in many many years.

>>22671467
he made a weak claim, got BTFO by a few of us and then fucked off after using some obvious JIDF tactics.

You might cheer for him but anons know what's up.

>>22663251
based

>>22665468
>First of all, plenty of people will not want to risk openly violating federal law.
Plenty of states legalized marijuana even though it's illegal at the federal level. Nobody gives a shit about the federal government, states decide what they allow and disallow.

>>22666200
>But people in this space believe that DeFi will replace other fiat lending systems. But it seems a bit difficult to run a legitimate economy from a blacklisted website that violates the laws of the state.
It'll be hard NOT to partake in a math based system once "brand" names like JP Morgan and other big institutions who have been operating under the sole assumption that their "brand" actually means something. Once that trust is lost, people will be looking for alternatives. At some point the house of cards will collapse and no law will be able to change that from happening.

>>22671640
>The side of good is winning for the first time in many many years.
The ultimate delusion. There's no point trying to correct you because you're convinced of this and will refuse to see any truth that doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Your understanding of the Semite and race traitor oligarchy is laughably childish. Race mixing that destroys the European race is not a goal for them. They need Europeans for the upkeep of the wonderlands they build for themselves. A one mutt + kike world is just as much suffering for them as for everyone else. Power and control are only means to an end. Globalization is only a means to that end; making Europeans minorities in their own nations without getting rid of them so as to render them unable to seize back their own lands. The race mixing stuff is just a eugenics program that gets rid of the Europeans with low impulse control and aversion to out groups. The final victory condition is a network of regional power centers wherein a caste hierarchy exists with semites and traitors ruling over a European productive class which naturally isolates itself from but is held in check by the unwashed brown masses. Ivory towers built on top of stone towers in the midst of vast swamps.

>marry into the Chinese elite
The kikes are trying to remedy their terrible genes by marrying Europeans. The only way they could possibly cripple themselves harder than by continuing their inbreeding would be to mix with the insects. This whole "Jews want to move to China" thing is just totally nonsensical. There isn't a single benefit in the plan.

>>22671665
I’m still here but this thread has been hijacked by schizo posters (you) so there’s nothing really left to discuss.

You can “win” a thread by posting the argument equivalent of gore 20 times but anyone reading this thinks you’re insane.
>you’re insane.

>>22672012
Alright anon let's go a little deeper.

You're thinking one dimensionally. You've essentially described the Kalergi plan. It goes much deeper that this though and (((they))) had until around 2012 to complete their plans.

Now watch the consciousness of the European peoples continue to change rapidly.

>>22671747
You can't be caught smoking weed over the internet, and you're not a target unless you are part of the production/trafficking/street dealing process. Completely different ballpark, idiot.

>>22672311

You are wrong. Any attempt to ban defi will backfire. That is all anons need to know.

>>22672463
The only bit that could be deeper that I haven't yet mentioned is the existence of a technologically advanced breakaway civilization, but so far they've seen fit to do absolutely nothing despite their Austro-German origins. They even sat by and watched as the only threat to the traitor hegemony, National Socialist Germany, was crushed. If they didn't intervene then, they clearly can't be counted upon and apparently have no intention other than to live apart from the rest of humanity.

That being the case, it really doesn't go deeper than what I've laid out and the plan has been complete for the better part of a century with zero active threats. Now watch as things only continue to get worse and the consciousnesses of all peoples falls into total ruin.

>>22672488
checked
NO MORE BROTHER WARS

YOU
ARE
WITNESSING
LAZERUS EFFECT
QUANTUM

those that see do not be discouraged
we are indeed winning

the dead do not see
no soul
let them toil.

racial awakening is upon us
awaken your inner spirit
drape the soul of your ancestors over the physical vessel

the purest among us
see
know
have heard the whisper.

by your systems standard
your simulation
yes inconceivable
no soul
no connection.
so you must manifest in this realm a majority consensus for it to be real
real for you

no
longer.

NOT
AN
ELECTION

>>22672701
Why are all elites OBSESSED with the occult anon? Are they stupid and naive to believe it? Is their obsession with astrology just idiocy that the normal people are too rational to be taken in by?

Let's just say again that these dark forces had a time period and they missed it. You're either amenable to this or not. Either way I wish you good luck and hope.

>>22672867
CATACLYSM
INTERRUPTED

UNDERSTAND.
THIEF IN THE NIGHT

WHY DESTROY THE EARTH
WHEN HE IS HERE
AS THE FATHER
CHRIST
COMFORTER
KEY TO THE HOUSE OF DAVID
BEHOLD A ALTAR TO THE LORD IN THE MIDST OF EGYPT

CUBE
BLACK SUN

CLOSED
CYCLE 7
FULFILLMENT


THE STONE THE BUILDERS (DREAMERS)
REJECTED
THE REJECTION PROPHECY

FULFILLED

THEY
WANTED
TO
RESERVE
THEIR
SPOT.

THIS IS IT , DO NOT BELIEVE
KNOW

BLGM
3168
888
1:3
24

HOLD ON FELLAS.

>>22672867
PROTOCOL 14
"WE SHALL FORBID CHRIST"

Pegasus the constellation Daphne Golightly the mother of God born through the window of Pegasus opens every year in October for about 6 days, she born October 11th 1912.....which is the Revelation 19:10,11,12 ...10 "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself."

In verse 12 His eyes as a flame of fire.....he is angry...on his head were many crowns=most royal man ...and he had a name written that no man knew ..Brian Leonard Golightly-Marshall...no man knew but himself which means only He can tell the world what it is...which he has been doing ...the new name of the Revelation 3:12...BLGM=312....then verse 19:13 "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."....Verse 13 identifies the name in from verse 12 as The Word of God...then verse 14...the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses...these are the saints and the 144,000 clothed in fine linen white and clean...their souls covered with the raiment of the Holy Ghost (Yah) born to the earth after Yah, they will find him and then gather to him....as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords...

FROM
dark
to
LIGHT

this is the first whisper

remember


we will congregate my brothers
it has been many lifetimes
but we are all here
and i have news to share.


rejoice
jubilation is near

sew the minds ready to receive what you know is here.
waiting

>>22672867
They're obsessed with certain occult practices because they know those work. Astrology is generally a study of the cosmos as a sort of clock that measures cyclical patterns of conceptual influences. For instance, the Mars effect charted by the Gauquelins. Timing endeavors by astrological measures can make things go more smoothly, but missing a timing isn't going to suddenly unravel the system of control that has been built up over thousands of years.

Unintelligent people who haven't studied "the occult" should totally ignore that the elites partake in ritual practices. If they don't understand the mechanisms behind those practices, they'll just become confused and think the elite are devil worshipers or some similar nonsense. Then they'll become fixated on some bit of arcane lore that can be interpreted any which way by someone who doesn't actually understand the occult and end up thinking that "the good guys" are winning because this or that cycle came around.

>many crowns

LEONARD
GOLIGHTLY
MARSHALL

Crypto is getting closer and closer to adoption, and all of the sudden more and more of these threads are popping up.

>>22662902
>The websites will be seized,
It's a smart contract, retard. not a "website"
>Meaning that ALL users will technically be violating the law.
come and get us kike there are too many of us to stop. We already illegally torrent movies and tv shows with impunity. You can't stop bits from moving around

You really think we don't see this coming? Bitcoin and Ethereum will both be banned some day. Won't make a difference. You lost this battle on January 3rd, 2009. Crypto is inevitable. It does not require your permission.

Fuck Niggers
Fuck Kikes
and most importantly
FUCK Jannies

>>22672867

>>22662902

when we win, do not forget that these kikes want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny

>>22662902
Welcome
To
Reality

>>22662921
He played himself. /thread

>>22662902
Soon.

>>22673071
>>22673095
>>22673122

Pretty clear what you're trying to do anon.

>>22673311
They're scared anon.

Oh and remember to pay your taxes or you'll definitely get caught and go to jail forever!!!

>>22673617
INTERlink

as odd as it may seem anon.

you're close than you realize
Kingdom comes to the earth

i am no
"random"

i am no
"shill"

i have a operation to fulfill
this is not for all

remember
your call sign
144

>>22669363

>>22662902
>blah blah I'm a dumb mutt who thinks the world is about my wasteland
ICOs are already illegal in US, that doesn't stop them happening

>>22662902
>because at that point you’re engaging in a revolution
Then revolution it is, comrade. Live free or die.

>>22665232
holy shit this glowie fud is so obvious lol
they can't even pay you to research a single fucking thing about what you're told to scaremonger about? government is finished if they're this cheap lmao

>>22662902
OP what your stating is what normies were saying in 2010 about BTC coin. :) Nice try to fud the future. Let me guess not only did you miss the boat but you're bitcoin normie. You're attempt to fud might work on the younger crowd but not us. Stay stagnant with your BTC of you wish but your better off joining us. Your choice we win either way. :)

>>22662902
The thing is, all this is take over from the computer scientist to replace the financial elite.
Even if the ban is successful, it will make computer scientist, i mean as a whole, as a community, very angry and distrutful of the central government, and central institutions. Currently, most computers scientists are still in line. Even those who want decentralization are legalist, and view decentralization as something cool, something to achieve as a hobby, in a cool way. taking time. Most of them are even progressives. They are not as agressive as radical Marxist or natsoc. If decentralized projects were to be attacked directly, they would loose the thrust they have into the government, and become more agressive to counter centralization. That would be lead to a war, even if it is a cold war, against central institution, which will eventually loose, because history don't move backwards, and we don't keep centralized systems, which are known to be faillible and prone to conflict of interests, as opposed to decentralized systems, which have perfect reliability,

>>22662902
Then why did kyber just become listed as a bank nigga

>>22671355
>>22671640
Putin is in the same UR-lodge, which are supra-masonic lodges, as (((them))), brezinsky, Kissinger, Merkel, etc...At the top, the two sides of the pyramid join together.

>>22666068
It would have been more believable at
>1 post by this ID
we realize now that you’re just a seething nocoiner. Have sex.

Excellent FUD, Shlomo. Shana Tova.

>>22662957
This

>>22675355
Putin is NOT a freemason

>>22662902
As someone who doesnt give a fuck abkut Defi and also comes from the founding stock of the country. On behalf of this board and all the other ones you and your ilk infest.....

GO FUCK YOURSELF GLOWNIGGER.
Go take your circusmised jew cock and ram it up the federal reserves ass. You are lucky the sheep are dumb and stupid.

>>22675537
Yes he is. You alt right are the ultimate naives. Thinking lefties are naive of the WWII air chambers, that Clinton is a witch, which is true by the way, yet failing to realize that your idols are part of the same cult.
Putin is a member of an UR-lodge, the golden eurasia, which is a super masonic lodge, above classic masonic lodges, supervising them.
https://www.movimentoroosevelt.com/news/per-dipartimento/movimento-roosevelt/free-masonry-shocking-book-of-the-italian-grand-master-gioele-magaldi-the-discovery-of-the-ur-lodges.html

>>22662902
nice FUD

>>22672701
>the existence of a technologically advanced breakaway civilization,
explain pls, or where i can read about this

>>22676925
Not him. But nazis got anti gravity before the end of the war, some went to antarctica, some went working in the USA, and founded the NASA (von braun, walt disney illuminati connection).
They have anti -gravity and free energy. Underground bases. Malevolent grey E.T working with them, or more like they work for the grey E.T, which are puppets, drones for the reptilian themselves. Watch cloud Atlas. See the last interview of Alex Jones on the Joe rogan show. Rogan is a glownigger by the way. REad david icke. For a start.

>>22668038
thanks just downloaded top gun