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>>22575926
Post your favorite market manipulations from the past month- I like yesterday morning. Nearly vertical.

>>22576053

So is PPLT my best bet for platinum? How much of my metals stockfolio should I make it compared to my gold and silver miners?

Silver miner anons, thoughts on Equity Metals?

I’m an Aztec warrior.

>>22576021
I am asuna anon and I approve this message

I'm thinking we will get a false breakout next week (Sept 21-25) then we dump to low 20s and crab for 6 months before we moon.

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>>22576053
Here's another good one I saved

>>22576292
>no digits
Sorry anon, it's invalid.

stack is now 750 grams gold.

no pics because i'm a larper.

>>22576366
I hope I'm wrong

I read a financial report available on the vangold website and I dont know how anybody could invest in that. It was shit. Look up the "ongoing concerns" portion or whatever its called.

>>22576382
~25oz? Nice

>>22576220
I made several prototypes a few threads ago, but I didn't know which one was better (or worse?) >>22528480 >>22528494 >>22528507

>>22576366
Check'd >>22576292 is wrong
>>22576411
Check'd again for you are right that you are wrong.

>>22576428
thanks anon. sometimes i like to hold my imaginary pile in my hands and pretend to breath fire.

i may even try to imagine sufficient gold for 1kg in the future. larping is hard.

>>22576176
I want to know how strong a grip you need to squeeze those potatoes into vodka. idk mang, seems like that label is false advertising.

>>22576112

Stay away. Equity one of the most evil companies in existence. It used to be called NNA until the company renamed itself. Why did it do that? Well, the CEO released grainy pictures of allegedly high-grade ore, got the rumour-mill going, pumped the stock 3000%. Then, on a Friday afternoon, just before Christmas, you got a stock halt. Actual drilling results were released. Some of the worst ever. Only a few grams of silver per ton. This made the news as painful and widely digested as possible before the stock started trading again, and the price collapsed. People were wiped out. Reading the chat history on ceo.ca is fascinating. The stock is only pumping now because somebody with a lot of followers is posting about it on Twitter.

For silver microcaps, stick to Bayhorse Silver, Klondike Silver, and Vangold Mining.

>Invest in gold to save your wealth in times of crisis!
>Time of crisis occurs (Covid 19)
>Gold plumets
retards

>>22576748
Thank you based silver anon.

>>22576876
>Time of crisis
Covid-19 isn't a crisis after November will be the true reveal if were heading for crisis.

>>22576876
>people are buying more of a product, price goes up
>everyone all at once is now trying to sell the product, flooding the market, price goes down
retard

>mfw gold went down this week

I know Jack shit about the stock market.
School me on gold/silver mining stocks, if I want to invest how should I? Will I make money or is it more of a preservation like stacking?

I have 290 ounces of Silver and feel like I am no longer a stacklet. I feel like it's time to start getting Platinum.

>>22577031
>miner has profit margin of 5%
>gold price goes up a little bit
>miner profit margin doubles

Miners are a leveraged bet on PMs. Buy miner index funds if you don't know what you're doing.

>>22576993
cope

>>22576220
>>22576021
fixed

>>22576876
>plummets
>gold still pretty close to its ath, just doomed to perpetually crab
>because of the eternal crab, probably never going below $1700/oz again

>>22577190
seethe

Alright guys, here's my boomer dad's take on metals

>My prediction, take it for what it worth, precious metals have topped and will decrease after the election. Stacking time again. For 2025 I fear the worst for the country.

Getting strong buy signals from my fud boomer dad

>>22576666
Checcccked, scary numerals though

>>22575926
Looking to place an order between 4-5.5k tonight
im thinking about doing all Mercury dimes.
wyt about this bag?
is the premium fair?
I was also considering getting 2500$ worth of the silver eagles on there too.
2020? Or random year?

>>22577031

Mining stocks give enormous leverage to the underlying metals. GDX and SIL, GDXJ and SILJ are the "safe" way to invest. Should give you 20x returns at least. In the 2001-2011 PM bull market, the index of gold miners went up 1700%, and this one is going to be far greater.

From '62 to '68, when silver doubled, the average silver penny stock went up 160x. Hence, to make colossal gains, you go to the small-caps, especially the silver ones. These stocks will collapse to zero if silver collapses, which is a risk you accept in exchange for the possibility of such great reward. The best larger small-caps are Impact Silver, Silver One, and Dolly Varden. The best microcaps are BHS, Klondike Silver, and Vangold. You can do your research on these stocks on the company websites and at ceo.ca.

Maybe we shouldn’t best against America

>>22578045
how based is my portfolio ? I am a bit tempted to remove one so I can focus more on the other, whats your opinion ?

>>22578076
Why not?

>>22576748
Jesus if you told me that graph is from a crypto scam I'd believe you

>>22577292
Oh man... i do not understand the seared bite reference, what am I missing?

>>22577857
I'd prefer a monster box at the lowest premium and then get a few 10 fv mercs and a few tubes of eagles, maples, whatever. Make sure to not get fucked by unconstitutional sales tax. If you're a schizo, maybe consider some 25 cent ATBs.

>>22578076
It's not betting against america. America is not the USD. going short USD is a smart play given ongoing financial policies and the oath of history.

>>22578076
>he capitulated
pomp eet

>>22577857
that's over $30 an ounce anon, you can do better

>>22578161

Everything there is sound. The only one I don't know anything about is Strikepoint Gold, but it looks to be a Sprott-endorsed small-cap, so it must have something going for it.

>>22578076
central bank funny money is not america

>>22577292

>>22578175
I guess its just a youtube thing
>>3609087

>>22578076
>IMPLYING

>>22578175
>>>/wsg/3609087

got a few tubes of those bad boys today.

>>22578192
>I'd prefer a monster box at the lowest premium
monster boxes are too much money. I only have 5k to throw down and I think the
>one mercury dime=one blowjob
thing is a great investment for the apocalypse

>>22577123
>the one chick with the chained up leg, force to stand on one leg all day
I'd probably buy her just cause I'd feel bad.

>>22578255
im not smart enough to hunt down the lowest premium.
help

>>22578045
Silver one is really running at a loss these past years. New nevada mine .01 g/tn assay bodes well, but their financials are dogshit. Still better than the other microcaps. Do all these <100m market cap miners have such shitty financials? It's crazy. I just don't see how a company with such negative ebitda could turn around to 100x within 5 years, even if silver price skyrockets. Am I the dumb one and just missing how transformational silver price changes are to the entire industry?

DXY under 93 yet metals don't move. I need to stop looking at charts and breathe in some fresh smokey air.

>>22578175
Only the worst forced meme in 4chan history. Girugamesh is more palatable than that shit.

>>22578255
I've spent 5k on silver in the last few weeks and probably am averaging $31/oz I suck at this.

>>22578580
i made a 6k order and paid mad premium too

im thinking about just getting these dimes and silver eagles 2020

Silver floor predictions? My prediction is that it won't ever go under $20 again (on paper, of course we don't know what premiums will do in the future)

>>22578690
$25

https://twitter.com/saharascharts/status/1306678049983913984?s=21

Hmmm

>>22578474
look for asahi rounds on providentmetals. They're cheaper than quite a few silver bars

>>22578733
>>22578733
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>>22578537
ok yeah.. i just looked it up... really shouldnthave to research a meme for it to be funny, 0/10, original anons gif is superior

>>22578524

>>their financials are dogshit

There isn't one silver stock I haven't seen you say this about, and yes, the fact you keep saying it shows you don't understand why the share prices of these stocks are rising and will continue to rise. For every dollar silver goes up by, the value of all the millions of ounces in the ground rises proportionately. Some of us are predicting 600 dollar silver, and we're still only at 27.

>see silver on ebay
>has make offer option
>make an offer
>auto declined
>make another offer
>auto declined
>make another offer
>auto declined
>only have one more offer left
>decide to offer 50 cents below the original price
>auto declined
>on a 200 dollar item

Why do retards even bother letting people make an offer?

>>22578884
Because they know the sort of dumbfucks who buy PMs on ebay are even bigger retards

>>22578852
The projection of 600 dollar silver is among the most optimistic I’ve seen. I’m not doubting your analysis, but that is certainly an aggressive target. I can only imagine what that silver price would do to small cap miner stocks

>>22578884
I KNOW WHAT I GOT

This is who you are trying to buy from.

>>22578690
$26 has been a hard floor for some time now, doubt we will ever see a weekly close under 26 ever again (or at least for the next few years)

>>22579279
do you want to retire at 30 anon ? If so, you will need to invest in other things than First majestic.

>>22579279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CSOvAtCVRg

>>22578757
what anons have the best info on JUNK silver?

>>22576072
Does this imply that paper silver / IOUs were printed like crazy to manipulate the price of silver quickly?

t. A complete rookie

>>22579382

>>22578757
im not really down with rounds as of right now.
Unless theres some new cool ass ones.
Im not really down with buying FED mint but what about this price?
https://sdbullion.com/random-1-oz-silver-coins?utm_source=findbullionprices.com

>>22579588
Sdbullion 90-percent-silver-100-dollar-face-value-bag

>>22578884
adding the best offer option helps the listing
appear higher on the search results
It's called gaming the algo

>>22579871
>>22579857
this is actually a pretty good deal

>>22579880
Its jew tactics and I hate it.

>>22579897
>>22579871
i think im gonna pull the trigger on this. Hoping i get dimes.
I already got my first 50$ random bag and it was quarters.

What else on SD bullion should I buy?
If i really wanted the dimes theres this price
https://monumentmetals.com/bag-of-90-silver-mercury-dimes-100-face.html

>>22579588
There is 0.715 ozt per $1 face value of 90% American pre-1965 silver coins. This is your key value for converting between the usual junk silver pricing and price per ounce.

Spot * 0.715 = multiple of face value
FV Multiplier / 0.715 = price per ounce.

So, for spot at $27:

27 * 0.715 = 19.3x. Anything above that will have a premium. Usually, this number is rounded to .5x face value.

If you get quoted a price of 20 times face:
20 / 0.715 = $27.92 per ozt. You're paying almost a dollar premium over spot (read: paper) at this price. This is a pretty acceptable amount over the price of paper silver.

>>22577162
>>22578045
Thanks friends. I still don't really know shit about investing though, is there some time of wiki or something I can read, or perhaps one of you can point me in the right direction?
Should I use an app? Online? This might sound retarded but I'd rather not pay a broker to do it for me, Id like to learn the basic ends and outs myself, and I'm not wealthy enough to be investing big money anyways, even if I lose my ass.
What kind of money do any of you more experienced anons get out of stocks, whether it be miners or otherwise?

Rate my stack.

>>22579948
it is, but a nigga needs to eat

>>22580187
thanks anon

>>22580190
https://findbullionprices.com/collection/Junk-Silver-Currency/

From what I gathered theres the perspective of those who expect the monetary system to completely collapse and never be federalized ever again soon, or the perspective that it will be federalized under an open NWO.
Then there are the retards who think money is real
So i want dimes because they are small increments of trading and i figure one mercury dime = one blow job by the year 2025

Dollar down
Gold down
Silver down
Makes sense

Buying Junk Silver at or Below Spot Price
Silver investors flock to junk silver because it is often available at or close to silver spot price and can be found with little to no premium.

There is a limited supply of junk silver available. Although millions of coins containing silver were minted by the US Mint they have not been minted for more than 50 years.

The most common types of junk silver available on the market today is described below. The values are based on a silver spot price around $16.35 on April 30, 2018.
Coin Years Minted Silver Content Total Weight Silver Weight Approximate Melt Value Junk Nickels Jefferson "War Nickels" 1942-1945 35% 5 grams 1.75 grams (0.0563 troy ounces) $0.92 per coin Junk Dimes Liberty Head "Barber Dime" 1892-1916 .90 2.5 2.25 grams (.072 troy ounces) $1.18 per coin Winged Liberty "Mercury Dime" 1916-1945 .90 2.5 2.25 grams (.072 troy ounces) $1.18 per coin Roosevelt Dime 1946-1964 .90 2.5 2.25 grams (.072 troy ounces) $1.18 per coin Junk Quarters Liberty Head "Barber Quarter" 1892-1916 .90 6.25 5.625 grams (.181 troy ounces) $2.96 per coin Standing Liberty Quarter 1916-1930 .90 6.25 5.625 grams (.181 troy ounces) $2.96 per coin Washington Quarter 1932-1964 .90 6.25 5.625 grams (.181 troy ounces) $2.96 per coin Half Dollars Walking Liberty 1916-1947 .90 12.5 11.25 grams (.362 troy ounces) $5.92 per coin Franklin 1948-1963 .90 12.5 11.25 grams (.362 troy ounces) $5.92 per coin Kennedy 1964 .90 12.5 11.25 grams (.362 troy ounces) $5.92 per coin Kennedy 1964-1969 .40 12.5 5 grams (.148 troy ounces) $2.42 per coin Dollars Morgan Dollar 1878-1921 .90 26.73 24.06 grams (.773 troy ounces) $12.66 per coin Peace Dollar 1921-1935 .90 26.73 24.06 grams (.773 troy ounces) $12.66 per coin

What fuckery is this anons?
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This SKU allows you to accumulate government-minted silver at great prices. Although the designs, mints, or even years of issue may vary from each order – depending on our inventory at the time – every shipment is assured to consist of government-minted silver coins with a silver weight of 1 troy ounce each.

*Please note, you are not guaranteed to get a random selection of Government minted silver coins. These coins could be delivered as either one uniform design, or a mixture of designs, and the coins will be in varying condition. This SKU only guarantees that you will get Government minted coins. We fill this SKU with what we have in inventory at the time of your order. If you are looking for a specific design, or coins in a BU condition, please shop our silver coins category.

https://sdbullion.com/random-1-oz-silver-coins?utm_source=findbullionprices.com

>>22576748
See my repky to vangold. I read about them and their investor report was very concerning. It was the most recent one on their website. Care go weigh in? Basically the report said they have no way of paying off their liabilities.

MY PAPERWEIGHTS ARE WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!

>>22580229

I forgot that movie had silver as future money.

I've been stacking for a decade now...

>>22575926
is it worth buying stock in american mining companies?

>>22580190
Don't forget free or face-value sources of Constitutional (AKA 'junk') silver.

If you have a little over $500 to set aside, try to get boxes of half dollars from the bank. they don't circulate much, and you're pretty likely to find silver in there (mostly 40% halves from 1965-1970), but you can also find 90% silver in there. Won't happen every box, but when you do find something, it's pure profit. Just be courteous to your tellers, and take your searched coins to a different bank, or to one that has a coin counting machine (that has no fees).

Secondly, if you ever walk by a big green Coinstar machine, look in the reject cup at about knee-height. You may find some foreign coins, some American debased currency, or even silver coins. American silver weighs more than the equivalent copper coin, so it's out of tolerance for these counters, and it rejects them.

Finally, if you work as a cashier in a place the public frequents, especially lower-income clientele, keep your eyes open for what's in the till. If there's silver, it will stand out immediately. You know what to do then: Buy it out of the till ASAP in any manner consistent with the policies of your employer.

Pic related is what I got at my own job one day about a month ago from methods 2 and 3. There's $2.25 face (a dime on each side played coy and hid from the camera), and it only set me back $2.15 in fiat currency.

>>22580832
Sounds to me like either 2nd-hand coins, or cull from the mint (big dings from handling, known as bag marks). Still a solid buy that combines the perceived strength of government-minted bullion with the lower prices the mentality of /pmg/ approves of.

I'd get government-minted coins at the LCS (all 2nd-hand) more often if he kept the difference down to just $1, but now that he's jacked the difference to $3, I'm sticking to generics.

>>22577857
Check your local coin shops to see what multiplier they have on junk. If its anywhere below 20, go nab it.

>>22581096
>t. )ew

>>22581096
Retard me wound up forgetting the pic.

>>22580439
PM futures traders are being setup for a short squeeze.

>>22581132
Also if you dont have an LCS near you, just be aware that apmex has the highest premiums of just about all online bullion dealers

what do you think anons?
Is it a stupid move to get the half dollars and not another bag of the random?

>>22581096
>Still a solid buy that combines the perceived strength of government-minted bullion with the lower prices the mentality of /pmg/ approves of.
for me its about low premiums combined with small incriments. 2.25 grams per silver nickel is a great thing for barter
Washington Quarter is 5.625 grams

what will you be trading for with one ounce increments?

>>22581096
>LCS
>>22581166
>LCS
Licensed Coin Seller?

>>22581211
Keep in mind silver loss on the junk silver. It adds up especially with big bags like that.

If I play with my coins without gloves on should I be washing them somehow before storage? Microfiber cloth and rubbing alcohol or something?

>>22581303
Local coin shop. Just Google coin shops near me, call around, and ask what their multiplier on junk is. For example, if its 20x face theb one dime will be 2 dollars. I have been able to get between 19x and 19.5x from my LCS for the past month, which a lot of times is actually less than comex spot price.

To the anons who told me to purchase mercs instead of the Scottsdale...

I will be buying the mercs.
Thanks for the heads up.

>>22581303
>Licensed coin seller?

A guess straight from /k/ I see.

>>22581316
Cloths will microscratch your silver. Same with cotton gloves. If you want to preserve it, don't handle it or only hold by grabbing the edges. If you dont mind microscratches, the cloth will be fine. Cleaning coins almost always devalues them. The scrubbing of the rubbing alcohol is likely to leave scratches as well. Acetone over rubbing alcohol always if you opt to clean your coins, but i never have used either so don't know much about those methods

>>22581096
fwiw, my LCS in N Fl is selling rounds at 32.25 (includes tax) and ASEs at 32

>>22581452
Acetone is good because it cleans without affecting the patina. It's very hard to notice if a coin was cleaned with Acetone.

190toz’s.
Hitting 200 this week
Feels good bros

>>22577292
Delet this

hello frens

>>22581316
just get a handful of trashy rounds or beater coins to satisfy your molestation urges

>>22581612
You'll be able to afford running water with all that.

>>22581674
do you think i can have warm running water too?

>>22581452
>>22581507
>>22581637
If I have coins that I already touched should I just give them a wipe with acetone and put them away? I'm seeing some blogs etc saying to not even stack them due to scratching.

>>22581026
which movie is that?

Scrapperfags, plz help.
Newbie trying to melt brass, how do I keep it homogenous? Will adding borax fix the problem, or am I also evaporating the zinc?

>>22580905

When you invest in these silver microcaps, you do so under the presumption that you will lose every penny of your money if silver collapses. It's as simple as that. That's the reason why the share prices are in the gutter, because other people don't have the vision to see the future early. Vangold is repairing a 100-year-old mine which used to be the highest-grade property in the district. It only closed down because of the revolution in 1913. It has a strong management-team, five million in cash, and 20 million of stockpiles lying about. It is likely that the mother vein intersects its property. If silver goes over 30, people will bid the stock price up double or triple, and the company will be able to dilute, or get financing to its heart's content.

>>22581746
Up to you. Are you a numismautist and expect to send them in to a place like PCGS or NGC to have them graded? If not, don't worry about it. Even a gentle microfiber rubbing won't take off enough weight to worry about if it's not done every day. It may not be preferred, but these are bullion pieces, after all. Their main value is their silver content.

Even if you ARE a numismautist, have a few fondler pieces set aside, and don't worry about their condition.

Fuck the fed and fuck the Comex

>>22581772
>cant into reverse image search or google 'movie stacking stacking silver floor'
Looper, very good movie

>>22581698
At that rate, you could buy the water company!

>>22581777
Borax can help get the dross out, run a flame on it as youre pouring it, if the zinc was all burned off youd be left with copper

>>22581993
You got a close up on that Roman coin? Always like ancient coins.

>>22581424

>>22581993
You got a close up on that Roman coin? Always like ancient coins.

>>22580905
>>22581867

By the way, I'll give you an analogy here. EXK (Endeavour Silver) used to be a worthless company on paper. All in costs were $18 per silver ounce, and silver was often lower than this in price. So financially speaking, it was deeply in trouble. Horrible company and very concerning to think of investing in it then, wasn't it? Level-headed "experts" told you in March to stay well away from companies like that:

"If your silver exposure is via juniors that struggle to turn a profit at $17/oz Ag or is an exploreco with a thin looking treasury, it's time to run away now. Silver is for speculative risk trades, not for times when you batten down the hatches."

https://incakolanews.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-death-of-silver-as-valid-investment.html

But if you had the foresight to buy it at that time, you've now quadrupled your money. Why? Because at $27-dollar silver, the old concern about the AISC of $18 is now meaningless. Meanwhile, if you bought "good" miners like Newmont, you only doubled your money. You don't make the most money in stocks by fretting about what they are now, and only investing in safety; you make the most money by anticipating what they will be in future. If you believe that we are going to enter into the greatest silver bull market in history, then these microcaps are what will yield the greatest return.

>>22582058
Absolutely, it's a beautiful coin and in pretty damn good shape compared to other denarius coins I've seen

>>22581026
Holy shit I literally blanked that part out from my memory as well...

>>22581307
im so undecided right now on what to do. I dont anticipate me purchasing more silver for the rest of the year after this buy

>>22582128
Thanks anon!

>>22575926
anyone bought gold with bitcoin before?
did you have to kyc?

>>22582169
I would shop around if I were you, APMEX is trusted but carries a very high premium. I personally like Monument Metals but just look for a place with a good deal. What do you have already if you don't mind me asking? Is your goal stacking for weight or something else like fractional for bartering?

>>22581777
stir it before you pour it

>>22581867
>and the company will be able to dilute
what happens exactly with share dilution to the value of your stock? I was wondering if Aurcana might do that eventually to the stock I have

Very obvious manipulation aside looks like we're on track for a high Friday which is interesting since it changes our pattern of weak Fridays

>>22582457

The stock price will go down, but a good company will dilute when the stock price is high, not low. So if you buy low, you're still getting a good deal. If I buy a stock at 0.25 CAD, it goes to 1 CAD, then dilutes, and dips to 0.90 CAD, I'm more glad I got in early than had I "bought the dip."

>>22582128
That is a beautiful coin. How much did you pay for it?

>>22582404
>Is your goal stacking for weight or something else like fractional for bartering?
I have this plus 3 more 10 ounce silver bars not shown.
So im open to balancing out what I got with big or small
gonna spend 4-6k tonight. The buy im showing in pic was 3 weeks ago so i will have, as a broke first timer who didnt sell LINK at the top, spent over 10k on Silver and an ounce of gold in one month

>>22575926
hey fag put the other two posts next time

and my reason for stacking is i know the satanic bankers are going to collapse the world economy and replace it with something even sicker using the internet to its full satanic potential

>>22582597
Inherited it from my grandfather, a historian who was fascinated with Ancient Rome.

Among other coins I inherited include a tetradrachm from Ancient Greece, a Trajan denarius from Rome, and a Macedonian coin from Alexander the Great.

>>22582533
checked, thanks brotha

>>22582063
Not sure what this means but to explain just in case, "LGS" (often used in gun communities) is Licensed Gun Shop, so I'm thinking you just deduced from that.

>>22582737

I'd love to own a coin like that. Not simply because it's ancient, but because it bears the face of one of the greatest and most virtuous of the Roman Emperors.

>>22582774
from /fit/ place is really gay

>>22582813
does /fit/ have daily penis rate threads?

>>22580123

>>22582632
I know some people will disagree with me but you should get some eagles. 2020 is the last year of this current design and assuming you are in the US they are the most in demand bullion. I would do half eagles and the rest up to you prob junk silver.
Premiums have also gone down for eagles recently but will probably spike again if there is big price movement.
https://findbullionprices.com/p/2020-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Coins/

>>22582774
https://sdbullion.com/random-1-oz-silver-coins
https://sdbullion.com/90-percent-silver-100-dollar-face-value-bag

new cart. I think im gonna get this one.

>>22582937
only 1000 minted world wide?
i got my Suisse Pamp 1 oz of Gold and i need more silver before I buy gold again.
but that does look tempting

>>22582975
i didnt know it was the last year. I like the way the libertads look

>>22580229
This meme is compelling me to stack bars with some of my UNIBUX. Should I go casted eagles or mintID?

>>22582975
Thanks for the heads up, gonna buy a couple 2020 ASEs now

how is this for a cart?

>>22583103
I like the look of it but if you want to save a few bucks you could buy the eagles from a different seller.

>>22583103
You're paying more for those ASEs than you would for say Maples because of the higher premium on ASEs

>>22583096
mintID is big gay

>>22583048
Pump bars are the number 2 most faked bars. Even their veriscan system is garbage and doesn't work. Metalor with their laser etched unique qr code and Heraues with the kinebar hologram are the only bars worth buying.

>>22583103
Think the eagles are worth it?

>>22583203
>>22583227
>>22583368
used to be this cart
>>22582981

>>22582937
I would buy this if the other side didn't look so dumb

>>22581867
Can you expand on the $600 silver estimation from your earlier post? I’m curious how you arrived at that figure.

>>22578852
Look I'm 30 physical 30 miners 30 crypto 10 Fiat. I can see the writing on the wall. The issue I have is what is the connection between silver price and valuation of a miner? I imagine it doesn't influence operating margins. It only influences gross profit. Okay, so costs stay the same, and from that you can extrapolate the miners performance given certain silver price ranges? I don't think it's wrong to try and apply some actual rigor in the analysis of these companies. What's absurd is assuming that "silver go up miner go up durrrrr". Even if so, they won't all go up equally.

>>22583496
inflation dude.
the founding fathers mocked us by letting us in on how bankers go to war with people through inflation

>>22583496

David Morgan and others have put that number of $600 on silver. It's what the ATH in the 80s would be today, if adjusted for genuine inflation (Chapwood Index & ShadowStats, not CPI). Again, many people are putting price-targets on gold of as much as $15,000, and a silver price of $600 under that circumstance is not unreasonable to consider. Once the manipulation of silver breaks, the historic GSR to which we revert could be anywhere from 1:14 to 1:3 or even 1:1.

>>22583433
Monument Metals usually sell cheaper

>>22576021
mspaint based and 9000 hour pilled

Where is the best place for a cucknadian to buy 80% cucknadian coins or 90% burger coins? This 26x FV is fucking retarded

>>22582193
c u t e

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>>22583717
352 in fucking taxes added.
carts a little cheaper

>>22576748
topkek welcome to mining baby

>>22583464
Reverse is dope, way better than lizard lady

>>22583910
I'm in Jew York, I know how you feel anon.

>>22578161
I think I suggested some of these to you. It looks extremely levered to silver, but a very good portfolio. Only thing I'd be worried about is the concentration into a handful of "risky" companies; A lot of people like to either have bigger core positions in more safe companies like the majors and mid tiers or royalty companies to anchor their portfolio down, or have a basket strategy containing dozens of risky companies. If everything goes according to plan, this portfolio will destroy. However things go wrong in mining all the time so just understand you're taking on extra risk for extreme upside.

Why sovs so sexy?

I want to buy so much shittttt but I have no income so I need liquid assets and not badass cyberbars or 10 oz. falcon coins or 2 oz. kraken coins.

Remember guys, refine responsibly

>>22583818
Google maps "coin and bullion" and ask if they sell junk silver and what the cost is. Bold Precious Metals is selling american junk for cheap right now, but their international shipping is a hassle (you have to email them your order list and everything)

>>22584387
I don't have any asahi and don't mind them at all , but for the minimal more investment I would rather have britannia's or maples

WTF
one business day to wire transger?
APMEX gave me 5

>>22583594
It'll never be 1:1. The rarity of the metal, both suface and in ground deposits will ensure that. I could see absolute max maybe 1:10 though unlikely. If and only if manipulation ends I'm guessing we would go to 1:25 as a more likely figure.

>>22584452
I love where I live because I live "in the middle of no where", nearest place is 2 hours+ away. There are downfalls to living like this but the upsides outweigh the downfalls. Unfortunately , I am not going to make a big enough order to warrant a 2 hour trip, if the shop 2 hours away even would have enough or what I want.

>>22576176
Strong hands hold silver and Tito's.

silver price hasn't moved for hours

>>22584474
You want to pay 2.5% more to get the queen on your rounds instead of the asahi logos?

>>22582937

>>22578474
https://findbullionprices.com/>>22578474

>>22584740
I'm a sucker for the 9999

Silver is holding up really strong. I wonder if '''they''' are biding they're time for their next dump, or if they can't beat the demand. I would have expected more downwards manipulation before we really take off.

>>22585159
literally no one knows if powell can keep the dollar down, that's the game that silver wants to play

>>22576021
The banda should have couhed.

hmmm where have i seen this pennant and tightening price range before another leg up before
>>22585159
we probably won't see another big dump until we have another leg up. anything under $25 silver and the demand to buy gets really high, we likely will never see silver under $26 again.

>>22577123
>Platinum
At that point buy gold anon.
I've only heard others here say it's a push metal. I've heard of people outside of /pmg/ other than you maybe talking about it. I know its cool and rare. I admit that, but is it really worth it in a colapse?

>>22584544

As the GSR has been 1:1 in the past, I'd never say it's impossible in future. Silver enthusiasts argue that all the gold ever mined is still above ground, while silver is a depleted asset, which is regularly consumed in industry, and which nobody stockpiles. They also say that most of the silver deposits which are easiest to mine have long since disappeared. If governments started stockpiling silver, and it was remonetized again, who knows what could happen. To be in the top 1% of gold-holders you need 30 ounces of gold, but to be in the top 1% of silver-holders you only need 60 ounces of silver.

>>22585461
Only 30oz of gold to be 1%? Source?

That would be a stretch but could be achieved by most middle income earners..

>>22585372
>we likely will never see silver under $26 again.
This is my thoughts as well, the only difference I think is that even if they do crash the price with paper sell offs the price is always going to hover around 30 us an oz. I have been buying small amounts since premiums were .25 - .50 cents an oz and the premium has never gone down.

>>22583520

The microcap companies which I've recommended, like Klondike and Vangold, have strong fundamental cases. Klondike has produced 40 million ounces in the past, and Vangold used to be the highest-grade mine in its district. Both properties are renowned for silver. Both properties have the capacity for production in modern times. All it takes is a high silver price to rescue them from the gutter. If silver breaks out again, people will flock to these stocks and bid up the share prices; private investors will rush in to invest in them. It's that simple. I don't recommend silver miners at random. I recommend only those companies which I most firmly believe in as the most leveraged plays to silver. The financial situation of silver companies, as it stands, is largely irrelevant; as I seek ultra-risk, ultra-reward, as regards a leveraged bet on silver imminently soaring, all that matters to me is assets, permits, infrastructure, and ounces in the ground.

>>22585493

I heard it on McAlvany Financial, which I consider to be a reliable source. I'm not sure what the primary source is; I didn't make a note of it.

>>22580439
omg is it crashing?

>>22585372

Do you know how many people were saying silver would never go below $50 after April 29 2011? This shit can and probably will be back in the teens within the next year.

>>22585461
>only have 6
What do I prioritize here? I have 126oz of silver currently.

How should I split my holdings between gold, silver, platinum, and palladium? This is for my stockfolio.

Anyone ever used this refiner? They quoted me 1% fee for gold, 2% for 999 silver, 5% for lower grade silver, they also said they pay spot for gov issue rounds
https://www.unitedpmr.com/

>>22585461
If you asked anyone alive today if they would trade 1toz of gold for 1toz of silver, they would laugh at you. It may have been 1:1 in the past, but getting past that psychological barrier without severe supply shortages seems unlikely in our lifetime. We, and all normies, have been conditioned to value gold>silver. Maybe if metal is monetized and the value slowly increases to match over decades, then our children/grandchildren might get close to 1:1. So technically you could be right, however I'd discount that as not being overly relevant to us.
As far as depleting silver, I'm thinking that higher prices could incentivize more metals recycling, stockpiling, and alternatives. What silver is used for at these prices may not fly at $600 and there would be a reason to develop a replacement. The higher the silver price, the more incentive not to use it, and therefore trend towards the natural ratio. (You're thinking electronics and stuff right? Maybe graphene? Or other engineered conductors?)
I'm not arguing with your price targets though. Hell knows we could probably get there with all this UBI talk I keep hearing about.

>>22586013

Circumstances aren't the same. Fed Funds were at 0% in 2011, but Q. E. was a relatively new concept. It had only been tried in Japan before. People didn't realize what powerful ammunition it would be for propping up the system. Q. E. has now driven not merely short-term, but long-term interest-rates deeply negative, and there is no other trick for the bankers to make use of. There isn't a second rabbit to pull out of the hat. It's literally impossible to escape this debt-trap now. Besides, the real economy is completely trashed, and John Williams says that there is now 40% real unemployment. Michael Oliver, who accurately predicted the 2012 PM crash despite being a gold-enthusiast, is saying that it really is the end this time, and he is right.

>>22586013
First crash brought it to single digits, second crash brought it down to the teens. Safe to say if there's a third crash, the 20's will be the floor.

>>22586155
The end as measured in months or years? How much longer can we prop up this house of cards? I would presume until at least 2021.

>>22579673
More likely most of the contracts were already existing (someone who bought a contract last week selling it today counts as movement). But some would be newly made contracts, yes. Its been becoming more frequent

>>22584692
hasn't moved for weeks, anon

>>22585647
What can you tell us about the fundementals of Bayhorse? How much silver do they produce and how much is likely in their reserves?

>>22586212

Alasdair Macleod is saying that we're going to have a banking crisis before the end of the year, and that the subsequent bailouts will completely trash the dollar. Others think that the system can hobble on until 2023 or 2024. I've heard one forecast of 2025. I'm not aware of any one who thinks that we can go on past 2026.

>>22586131

Consider that somebody would have laughed at you if you had tried to exchange an ounce of gold for 70 ounces of silver only a few months ago, when the GSR was 1:125. At a time when the GSR was lower than ever before in all the history of mankind, "experts" were still saying things like this:

https://incakolanews.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-death-of-silver-as-valid-investment.html

"I'm beginning to think that silver is never coming back against gold, or even the flimsy old fiat dollar for that matter. On the investor side, people have stubbornly stayed away from stacking silver and probably due the nasty fingerburning received in 2010. On the industrial side, no prizes for guessing what happens to demand in our new Covid-19 world.

...

No matter what the idiot permabull silverbugs may claim, there is a glut of silver and the physical oversupply is from the big base metals miners.

...

Silver is not gold and we know through experience that it will now sell off hard into an industrial downturn (and gold will not). It's time to run away now. Silver is for speculative risk trades, not for times when you batten down the hatches.

-

So anything is possible. If it's not absurd to exchange 70 ounces of silver for an ounce of gold now, but it was to do so a few months ago, we can imagine it not being absurd to trade 40 or 30 ounces of silver for an ounce of gold six months from hence. And after that, why not see the ratio go lower still? Especially when silver becomes one of the precious few safe havens for people to fly to. Silver will preserve you from financial ruin just as well as gold; this will give it immeasurable value.

>>22581746
Dude, no one gives a fuck about numismatics. Unless you have a mint 1986 eagle or a mint 2003 a silver eagle is basically worth a few dollars over spot no LCS is gonna give you much more over spot because its a BU eagle.

>>22586386

I gave the case for BHS in this post; will link to it so as to avoid flooding the thread: >>22534072

12 million ounces are what we know of, but Graeme is purposely not doing exploration in the Bayhorse mine right now. He simply wants to start production and get going as quickly as possible.

>>22576053

>>22583227
Even though maples are a better coin and higher purity. Silver eagles are not worth the premium they command.

>>22586386
>>22586545

P. S. Forgot to add, BHS is processing 400 tons of tonnage right now which is already mined--will result in at least 1 ton of silver, or a million CAD.

In regard to production capacity, see Graeme's e-mail to cornhuskergold on ceo.ca, as well as the 10 August news release:

"We have everything built. Our issue has been working capital to run the mine, and we (and most other companies) have been starved for working capital these past two years. Assuming US$190/ton, at 100 ton/day, that works out to $19,000 per day, around $600,000 per month, so we would need at least US$2M to be sure we would not get caught with our pants down. To go to 200 ton/day will cost around US$26,000 day. We have to spend a lot before the cash comes in, that is what many investors do not understand. ... The market perception has finally changed and now we have a comfort level, and finally funds in the bank, with the certain prospect of more to come, we will ramp up very slowly in producing a float con from the around 300 - 400 tons of pre-sorted material and get that processed before we go back to full scale mining."

As a poster on SH says: "I never saw a mining company valued lower than the then yearly revenue. 1.2 Million Ounces will be around 30 million US Dollars revenue and market cap is just 23.5 Canadian Dollars. BHS is one of the biggest bargains in history right now".

>>22583099
good luck finding them, fren
rare in my area since not many minted this year as previous years

>>22576053
just sit back and shut up no one want to hear you stupid shit

>>22586751
Just for you faggot

Got this little guy today.

>>22581982
Back in the day I moved the director of photography for that movie

>>22586830
idc retard just stop no one does

>>22579279
eBay is great for junk silver desu. Not hard to find 50 mercs for under $100 even now

Anyone know where to buy metal with crypto? Got my UNI money

Was reading thread and I figured I would go through the collection that was left to me. What do you you all think? I don't plan on selling or anything

>>22586918
too bad he didnt pay you in silver

>>22587010
>2 posts by this id

>>22587136
Got a whole bunch of other coins like indian head pennies but mostly everything else looks like plated collector coins

>>22587136
What's the mint mark on the 1896 morgan? It's nice.

I just bought 200oz Ag so expect the price to plummet lads

>>22587408
I don't see a mint mark

>>22578407

>>22587598
That means its from Philadelphia. If you had an S minted coin in that condition, it'd be worth some serious money.

>>22586013
the people saying it would never dip below 50 are as dumb as the people thinking it would go back to 5.

for almost 10 years 16-20 was the normal, 3-4 times what it once was, after this run up, something similar will happen, weather its 30, 40, 50, or whatever, I dont know.

>>22587723
Thanks anon, got a few from New Orleans but not from the really rare years

>>22586124
sounds shite

>>22586124
https://www.jmbullion.com/sell-to-us/

jmbullion pays more for that stuff dude.

>>22587723
>>22587598
>>22587136
nice

yo /pmg/ list the good places to buy with crypto

>>22588057
you could just google that you know....

here is a freebee
silvergoldbull

>>22586612
Classic cat formation

>>22587917
Should they be sent out to get rated anon?

>>22588217
>Should they be sent out to get rated anon?
never
as a numismatist, my advice is never pay for rating
the coin is the coin. I won't buy someones MS70 gem cameo bullshit sight unseen. I have to inspect it, in person and I rate it.
maybe you can sell to the unwashed masses with some bs rating, but its a lot of money on some of these coins

i recommend buying unrated coins that you like, which you think have a potential numismatic upside, instead of something rated, rare, or priced in.

pic related: underrated mexican silver

not silver but may be of interest to people for the cheap meme value

https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=29555&productId=158716&referralCode=WRB&gclid=CjwKCAjwkoz7BRBPEiwAeKw3qzxYCj6ANkxj6BtLnerBI3g0SdEU1SWMht-DxvCeuAY_SSR9mTSzXxoC9IEQAvD_BwE

>>22588319
Noted

Gold confiscation is always on the table, but how likely is a Silver confiscation?

I’ve had a recollection my friends. Silver dimes will be worth $100 a piece one day. Idk why but I can see it. I visualized silver reaching $25 an ounce the same way. Stack on my friends for maybe I am clairvoyant

>>22588767
neither are likely or on the table
i'd fucking dump my stack in the bottom of the ocean before giving it to the (((government)))

>>22588057
I know JM Bullion will take BTC and ETH as payment, though its still cheaper to pay by wire or ACH/Echeck

>>22588802
what cards am I holding?

>>22588974
queen of spades
joker
suicide king
2 of clubs

>>22578161
This is basically an aggregate /pmg portfolio.
In other words, youve dun good anon

>>22586846
Nice. I won a 10 oz one on eBay. Does yours say Dallas Gold & Silver on the back?

>>22588381
Nice. I found one out in the wild.
"Dont talk to me or my son again"

Debt reset is next September, until then it's the year of the metal bull.

>>22589765
So should I rack up as much debt as possible before then? I just do not understand everyones thoughts on this, I have always tried to live my life as debt free as possible outside of my mortgage. Can't buy a vehicle cash? Can't afford to drive it etc

>>22589824
Civilian debt won’t be forgiven LOL

>>22589134
correct!

About to buy 2 sterling candle sticks for 100 cad. Weights 700, but its weighted. How weighted usually are the candle sticks? By Gorham if anyone knows anything about that.

>>22589765
People have been saying this will happen in September for a decade now

>>22589905
700 grams*

>>22589875
Ok , that is what I believe as well. But what then? The fed forgives the goverments debt and then what? All civi debt gets restructured under fed coin/chip digital money or whatever the fuck and your debt has now quintupled? Government doesn't "borrow" money anymore and the digital number just grows ever larger? I mean there is just so many questions about even the idea of this happening

>>22578045
based anon, thank you for your charity. I just wanted to ask if you had a source for "From '62 to '68, when silver doubled, the average silver penny stock went up 160x"

Am I missing something?

>>22589451
kek

>>22586080
30 silver oz per gold oz.

>>22590171
I mean it's one of those things where it's obviously fake, but hey if you wanna take the one in a billion chance it's some kind of weird price error and at worst waste $13, feel free.

>>22578852
Explain to me why current ratio(current assets/current liabilities) doesn't matter and I'll go balls deep in BHS

>>22590263
its gold clad I scrolled down to read the description

>>22590171
>>22590263
>>22590451
Mills like that refers to the thickness of the plating. It's correct, in the title, just one of those assholishly technically correct statements. The "bullion" irks me.

>>22586431
if industrial metals are a good measure, than silver seems like it still has way more rip in it.

>>22586080
balls deep OTM calls for summer 2021 on unprofitable silver mining operations

>almost literally maxed out
>need to diversify ownership risk overseas based on current holdings
>fucking JM Bullion gets kinobars back in stock
>fucking this sexy piece of shit
god dammit, i really can't convert miners for these guys. I need to wait and pray...

>>22588767

>>22584224
Yes you did, thanks for all. The thing is I only have 1k to invest each month and it's fucking hard to buy enough share of things like alexco or endeavor to have significant return. I also have a physical foundation of 20gold/500silver so that's why I tried to get the best levered and stable company. I don't know how stupid my choice is but oh well. Maybe add a robust but cheap gold company but nothing is below 2$ without being a gamble anyway.

>>22589824
I've seen anons charge $20K and counting debt on multiple cards to declare bankruptcy just to hold silver. Now if they were joking or not it doesn't matter. The thought is out there & influencing anons. Whatever happens debt forgiveness or no debt forgiveness...don't rack debt up. You're wagering too much on too little of knowledge. We know things are going to get bad fast.

You're collecting silver? Good.
You're collecting gold? Great.
You have a means to defend yourself? Youre on track.
You have a little land? Youre ahead of the game.
You are planning ahead for food and water in creative ways? Youre doing what you should.

Anons, avoid debt and if you're doing any of the above keep at it and don't judge your stack off of others right now. Do your part and do it according to where you find yourself in life at this point.

What can a man do but learn the ways of prudence even in the most troubled of times in a generation? His soul restd in fortitude built on a stone unmoved by all that surrounds him. His heart is ablaze with meekness & his spirit lifted with joy even in grief.

>LET not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me.

>>22590790
Hidden leaf stackijg technique.

Got my first kilo bars delivered today, they feel so good in the hand. Goddamn I love shiny rocks

>>22588217
I'm going to disagree with >>22588319, also as a numismautist as well as a stacker. PCGS and NGC are reputable grading services for a reason. There is a significant portion of the market that only buy certified like that. But, check the site first to see what's actually worth paying to get graded.

>>22588122
maybe somebody here knows a place with better rates or that keeps it especially hush-hush i dont know how this works never tried it

I just feel like I’m being given a once in a lifetime chance to load up on miners and I’m squandering it

>>22592265
Relax. There's always money to be made.

>>22591530
Jesus I Trust in You!

>>22584366
>66
Checked for St. George devotion anon.

>>22592501
Post yiur devotional silver anon.

>>22591763
your mom is a shiny rock

To sterling collectors lurking or anyone that knows, how do I sell any sterling I have and what price do I get for them? I have some busted dishes that say sterling and some pretty decent quality cups and spoons. Do coin shops take them? Do they test and weigh? Does it sell for spot or under spot? How much under spot?

Starting to stack, what should I aim for a ratio for silver to gold? Say 100oz silver for every 1oz gold? Any help appreciated

>>22592579

>>22592767
1 oz gold to 100 oz silver is common.

so quiet in here lately anons what's the deal?

>>22592776
Anon may God be with you always.
St. Miachael pray for us.
The premiums were high on those?
Worth it.

>>22592761
Any coin shop will give you 82% of spot. They will check it's markings or test it. Weigh it yourself first
so you know its value. Some dealers might rip you off. So know what is worth when you walk in

>>22592767
>>22592816
200oz of silver for every 1oz of gold is even more common. Before covid the standard was 400oz for every 1 oz of gold. Take that with a grain of salt, because silver is past the double point after premiums now. Big bosses stack 500 oz for every 1 oz gold m

>>22592826
Everyone is working overtime to stack more silver & frankly to keep tjeir comapnies afloat.

>>22592826
It crabbed for over a month now so outsiders left and only the regulars remain.

>>22592816
>>22592916
Thanks y’all, about to buy some 10oz silver bars cus the premiums are lower. 500:1 sounds crazy but I can only imagine they’re thinking silver does better than gold as far as gains? My best guess

>>22592851
Thank you and may God bless you too anon.

>>22592776
What Koin is that?

>>22592893
>82% of spot
Are you serious?

if you missed out on your unis dont be sad fags, chainlink started an airdrop too! you just need some ethers or link

heres the official airdrop site: linkairdrop.io.

>>22593031
Ukrainian St Michael the Archangel

>>22593096
Thanks !

>>22591530
Based and truth pilled.

>>22581026
they always say hollywood and the media will show their hand at what the future holds

>>22593036
yes. . they pocket about 10%. You might get full 92.5% on Ebay but then you pay 10% to them

>>22593233
Another interesting thing in that movie is how once he moves to China he trades all the silver he coveted so much for RMB basically implying the Chinese currency may be metals backed in the future

>>22588802
>Silver dimes will be worth $100 a piece one day.
I'm putting my good vibes towards this ultimate goal.

>>22593049
Fake

>>22593233

Nice digits it's probably true.

Anyway, the point is the fun we had on the way not the destination.

>>22593448
honestly is a single dime becomes $100 each the Dollar is probably dead and nobody uses it

>>22591530
Oh blood and water, which gushed forth from the hear of Jesus as a fountain of mercy for us, I trust in you.

>>22593401
Ya you might have a better chance selling it for its silver value + its antique value. You might not be able to liquidate it instantly but you fair value on ebay.

>>22593604
>maybe the real Reset was the stackers we met along the way

>>22593401
I bought a bunch of cups and shit on ebay for an average of $21 an ounce. Adjusted for actual silver weight of course, and taxes shipping etc. Its 11.14 toz. So taking it in yields me break even no profit? Lmao

>>22585159
>>22585372
been watching that bull pendant form for days and getting antsy

>>22593720
that's kind of the joke of it all. although you have to remember, when the weimar currency took a billion marks to buy a loaf of bread, people were still buying bread with marks. I think everyone will be shocked how long people are still using dollars.

Anyone baking? I'm looking for junk mercs on ebay and fucking hell, do people actually buy at those prices? It's impossible to find it near spot

>>22594114
I'll bake, give me 5 minutes.

>>22576876
You realize it literally shot up as coronavirus has been closing down the world right?
Meanwhile ever since then it's trended upwards.
And we're not even close to the actually bad times yet
Lmao I wish I bought way more a long time ago

>>22577123
Ah, I'm glad to see this image spreading around

>>22585384
No reason anyone would value it less than silver in shtf situation
And I'll bet it'll moon soon when ppl switch catalytic converters back to platinum because palladium is so expensive now

New thread
>>22594212
>>22594212
>>22594212