/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for bbc

Tell me if I should buy UEC premarket?

I dont want to fomo in later..

When does GME pump

>>22534431

Nigger

>>22534431
I too am a fan of the British Broadcasting Corporation.

>please market crash, please

Pathetic.

>>22534451
You must be mentally damaged, my apologies.

Why isn't UVXY following the VIX right now?

>>22534440

Thursday two weeks ago

>>22534440
kek

>>22534451
Fuckers canceled Dirk Gently.

any $SNOW niggers?

I hope you took profits, Anons.

OH
>inb4 GME coomer

>>22534440

>>22534492
I'll be in just for the entry pump. Anyone else?

Acquire
>NEE
>V
>WMT
>HD
>MSFT
Leave behind the endless worrying. Say goodbye to -20% days. Grow your wealth into a generational force that gives your descendants a leg up in the hellscape they are sure to inhabit

>>22534521
I might get a leap later on depending on pricing.

green day today

>>22534440
>>22534528

>>22534532
Should I exchange my DIS, JNJ or KO for WMT? Or just buy some WMT and hodl the rest.

>>22534560
Someone pls post the pasta

Why?
Yes I bought the AI meme today, how could you tell?

When will my oilies rise?
Bought the corona bottom on Shell. Then it was recovering.. but been steady downhill ever since and now it is back to corona bottom.

˙ʎɐpoʇʎɐplɐɔiƃɐɯɐƃuiʌɐɥllɐǝɹɐnoʎǝdoɥI˙XS∀ǝɥʇɯoɹɟollǝH

>>22534586
I didn't buy iRobot two weeks ago when I was considering it, and now my wrists itch whenever I see a knife.

Will TSLA ever crash again? I didn’t buy when It did last week because I thought it would dump more!

>>22534569
Id hold DIS if I already had it. The theme park is an incredible asset. KO is a good one to leave on DRIP for decades. And yes convert JNJ to WMT. WMT is safe during economic downturns

>NKLA, a total fraud with literally zero assets, still worth 10 billion more than WKHS
just..... just fucking swap worth already

$TUP just keeps printing!

china may block nvidias arm buyout

dubbs we dip
singles we rip

OHHHHHHHH MYY FUUUCCKINNNN GAAAAAWD GMMMEEEE IMM GONNNAA FOOOOKIINN COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMmmmmmMmMmMMMMM

>>22534589

Likely another year or two possibly sooner if trump gets elected.

>>22534623
Right on. I have a few long drip holds I want to accumulate over the next few years and don't want too many different tickers bogging up my account

>>22534661
I hope you get ass cancer

>>22534560

>>22534608
>>22534667

>>22534661

This is so played out now and was never funny in the first place

>>22534634
thats not how you spell SHLL

>>22534663
But I thought I was supposed to be greedy when others are fearful, and be fearful when others are greedy.
Seems like would work better to be greedy when retards are greedy.

>>22534549
which stock?

retail numbers out
all bad

>>22534695
its a new paradigm always be greedy

Do you even own GBTC?

>>22534679
>>22534692
Your tears only make me stronger peasants.

>>22534693
or that.. fucking anything

>>22534532
Replace WMT with LMT or TGT and you’re golden

>>22534377
i've said it before and i'll say it again: look at the VIX during the 2008 GFC and 2020 covid crash. note when it got around 80+ and roughly where price was on the SPY during that time, or just different individual stocks in general. it calls the bottom very well. that's what i'd personally be waiting for. again, for a quick cheat sheet on the VIX, generally speaking:

>it's around 10-20 the vast majority of the time. this represents when the market is stable and either flat or trending quietly. obviously often closer to 10 than 20.
>30-40 is a strong dip. for a recent reference, the softbank meme that dumped the nasdaq over 10% in 2-3 days and stocks like AMD dumping around 20% got the VIX up to a max of 38.28
>50-60 usually represents a Flash Crash
>80+ is pricing in the literal apocalypse. this has only happened twice in the past 20 years, 2008 and covid. both considering the potential collapse of the world economic system as a whole basically. assuming it isn't literally the end of the world, this is probably roughly where the ultimate bottom would be of any given crash
>the only time it's been higher was black monday, 1987, but that doesn't count because they didn't have circuit breakers or various other shit in place back then (which to be fair came about literally because of this event), but even then as you might imagine it was a great buying opportunity. it topped out at 172.79 then.

>>22534586
Every morning an imbecile awakens

>>22534717
I doubt it. If you weren't seething like a faggot you wouldn't spend so much time doing this.

>>22534569
Out of those 4, DIS > WMT > JNJ > KO for future growth potential

we're headed for a red open

>>22534757
Sounds like you’re the one seething bud ;^)

thinkin bout thos $115 apples, should i buy more

>>22534776
no

Quick note on SNOW: Their 133% growth from Feb-July was an anomaly caused by the pandemic. Their could services are not exactly innovative and Amazon, Google can swiftly overturn and slow down their momentum. I'd suggest waiting until Q1 of next year.

>>22534788
oh yes

>>22534778
Because you shit up the thread with your garbage? Keep dreaming.

You have 30 seconds to explain why you’re not dumping all your cash into HD today

>>22534780

It’s going to dip hard. 110-114 is the sweet spot

>>22534788
yes i think so

>>22534808
Home depot looks like shit. Id rather invedt in avgo

>>22534788

>>22534680
Its priced for bankruptcy, because its a zombie company that will go bankrupt. The only reason it hasn't yet, is because of its huge size. Its so big, that its going to take a while to die.
I don't know, man, I just can't imagine GME making a recovery, paying rent on a prime location office, and wages to employees, on something that most people order online... I don't see it.

What are we buying at open? I'm looking for something besides NAK.

>>22534377
"time in the market > timing the market" exclusively relies on strawmen. For example, the last time someone presented that meme here, the accompanying infographics (from schwab I believe) decided that 'timing the market' meant capturing the best single-day gains and never being in the market at any point in time beyond that, which is obviously not what it means at all.
Point is, there are always pullbacks, and it's almost always better to buy on the pullback than on the top of a bubble. If you buy during a pullback, you're virtually guaranteed to get your 10-20% in a month+, which is also excellent for psychology, thus increasing gains potential. If instead you just put your money in, you could be so unlucky as to wait 10 years before you see positive returns. The only time it either doesn't matter or time in the market truly wins is if you have infinite time to invest.

>bobos rise!

>>22534802
>>22534827
>>22534846
Getting desperate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOTEQmfU-no

>>22534751
Why? AI is the future and will bring us to mars soon

i love stocktwits

>>22534802
Looking green to me. Guess we'll find out in an hour.

>>22534693
Based Anon.

Hyliion is the only CARBON NEGATIVE Tractor Semi.

UPS is likely to go with them soon.

>>22534468
Because UVXY is shit and the JEWS killed my boy TVIX and replaced it with UVXY specifically to deny me cheeky volatility gains without having to do faggot ass VIX options

>>22534880
it's possible
if jerome has an intern running the printer
he's busy getting ready for a hot date with BLM

Which stocks give the fattest divvies?

I wasnt here yesterday
what was our opinion on the new Apple vaporware?

Smg seems a little slow this morning. You people need to WAKE UP

>>22534934
>DIVVIES

>>22534850
the stores themselves are doing great, if you did your DD then you'd know it's all entirely corporate mismanagement that's fucked over gamestop over the last decade. $32 million in bonuses over the last two years even when Gamestop was on a massive decline, absolute fuck ups on handling covid lockdowns, only sold their corporate jet (yes a fucking plane for personal use of their executives) because shareholders since 2011 got so fed up and stopped being passive.

dunno why anons find it so hard to understand why a short-term play like this ultimately has little downside yet so much upside potential. No one is shilling for people to hold GME past Q1 2021 (unless new developments happen)

>>22534934
don't chase dividends idiot
they do worse than even boomer spy etf

>>22534758
DIS or TGT?????

>>22534959

The same contrarian opinion that’s always here. Also the stock tanked so normies didn’t like it much either.

>>22534966
Nigger

>>22534959
it wasn't vaporware it's just nothing interesting. Subscription services, USB-C instead of lightning, more watch shit.

Anybody ever look into this SPYX etf? It excludes companies with known fossil fuel reserves so it's probably pretty sustainable.

>>22534814
>It’s going to dip hard. 110-114 is the sweet spot
What time you think? I'm already in above this so I'm just averaging down a bit. It'll only be a couple bux either way on my buys today so I'm not terribly concerned.

>>22534831
it keeps dipping thats why
>>22534879
>stocktwits
y?
>>22534934
chase growth and divis over 2-3 percent still do worse than SPY dude

This general is ironic right? There's no humanly sane way people are actually recommending and defending fucking Gamestop is there?

>>22534980
DIS for a recovery play, TGT for a SWAN play

Can someone explain why UVXY hasn't jumped like VIX?

>>22534934
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/usac/dividend-history

>>22535017

Less that 30 minutes after opening is my guess it’s barely holding 15 pm it’ll touch 113 push 110-111 today I think

>>22535033
Jews

>>22534798
What about Palintar?

>>22535023
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>boat company
>LOOKS LIKE THEIR STOCK IS ABOUT TO SINK

>>22534984
retard

>>22534722
What’s your beef with WMT?

>>22535102
>helium company
>IT CAN ONLY GO UP

>>22534850
i like epic games but i only ever bought borderlands 3 from them since you had to if you wanted it early and otherwise i just collect free games from them every week.

>>22535071
unironically it literally always is

>>22535051
what is this?

>>22535106
TGT outperforms WMT.

>/VX up to 30.5 in the premarket
>VXX still at 24.7

surely it can't be this easy. im gonna wait and see but surely it can't be this easy.

>>22534984
Got under your skin, lol.

>>22535023
GME is a short squeeze play. Very easy to understand and defend. But they're not going anywhere until they change their entire business model. Michael Burry is involved, so it has validity.

>>22535102
Talking about Carnival?

>>22534869
If you wait years for a pullback though, you lose more than if you had just invested your money, especially due to compounding.
The type of person that keeps a majority of their money in cash, because they wait for the next big crash is ultimately losing more.

And the graphic you mean compares regularly investing to investing your money only after a dip but staying in the market afterwards.

>>22534869
While Schwab's methodology is arbitrary (if the study you're referring to is the one I'm thinking of), you haven't given a competing methodology. While it sounds reasonable in theory, waiting for a 20% pullback will often mean watching the index go up by more than 20% in the meantime. That means that even after the pullback, you're behind where you'd have been by buying in immediately. And your example of having to wait 10-20 years to break even is obviously a worst case scenario.

>>22535023
brace ur butthole for the coming months
this is only the beginning of the shilling
once consoles are out and stock is at $9+, 30% of the general will be GME related

>>22535149
dividend history for USAC...

Kodak a good for the short squeeze

POWELL JUST ANNOUNCED 1 RANDOM COMPANIES FREE SHARE EVERY WEEK FOR EACH AMERICAN CITIZEN

QRD on the fed announcement today?

>>22535155
How do the futures translate to the price of the ETFs that follow the VIX?

>futures slowly dropping before open
I've got a bad feeling about this one

just got approved for options level 2, what should I buy?

>>22535196
source

>>22535102
>small flaccid penis company
>makes me hard looking at it in my portfolio

>>22534904
You can make your own tvix with deep itm options or selling puts on, say, vxx. Deep itm lets you select arbitrary leverage, which degrades as the movement is smaller (e.g. you get near 1x leverage if it doesn't move, but >1.5 if it moves a little in either direction, and >3x if it moves a lot). Selling puts is the same but requires more capital to secure it, and gives more leverage if the underlying doesn't move much or moves slightly negatively, while it gives less leverage if it moves a lot.

>>22535220
TLT calls

>>22535176
Timing the market: sitting on cash for extended periods of time because you assume prices will be lower in the future
Not timing the market: setting a price target regardless of what the current price is after doing proper DD on the stock, and afterwards keeping up with news about the company
Don’t get them mixed up.

>>22535180
Why? We didn't see Gamestop go bonkers last console releases. Gamestop needs an entire shift in their business model. Games being digitized has really fucked them over.

Guys do i buy UEC BEFORE OPEN???

>>22534904
If UVXY isn't following VIX, then what the hell does it follow?

>>22535180
>$9+
no way this is going to be WKHS-tier and at least $20
and some people in /smg/ are going to be butthurt again for missing out on the next moon mission, or FOMO in like retards at the top like on IVR kek

only a retard would blindly pick whatever /smg/'s shilling, but there's no reason you can't look into the DD yourself and verify it.

Why not invest in ORCL if they got the TikTok deal?

Teslabros.....

>>22535338
ORCL and tik tok are both shit so now you have double shit

>>22534521
Same but im pretty worried about the 120 opener. Its like they tried to build in the pump. Why do they hate us?

>>22534661
>>22534692
>>22534679
How does he trigger some anon in every thread? Why do you newfags fall for his coom bait?

>>22535230
This. Just get them 90 deltas so IV and theta become irrelevant and let it rip. Better than TVIX

>>22535338
because TikTok is a fad?

>>22535208
literally just look at a chart, dude.
>The VXX is an Exchange Traded Note (ETN) that tracks the VIX short-term futures. To be more specific, the VXX is a portfolio composed of the front two month /VX futures that bear continuously changing weights.

>>22535351
Well that much is obvious but won't TikTok make the stonk line go up?

>>22535230
NO IM NOT TRADING OPTIONS YOU KIKE GIVE ME BACK MY TVIX
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>22535274
Jew gemmatria based meme numbers designed to extort maximum wealth from goyim

Never forget what they took from you

bros if spy closes above 342 today i will bathe in bull semen

>>22535176
Japan is real, not necessarily worst-case unlike some emerging markets. For US market, 20 years would be a worst-case but 10 years sure as fuck wouldn't be.
5-10 years is a fairly typical top-buy scenario.
I don't need to give a competing methodology to point out another methodology is crap and disingenuous. Fuck off with that weak shit. And I've also never mentioned a 20% 10-years-wait pullback. Just looking at 1std + ma and buying when the bottom is reached would be far better than "time in the market" and may happen once every 3 months. This should bring post-dip-recovery gains for the market timinger somewhere around 3-5% above the market timer (as modeled by average buy-in price between the previous such pullback and the current one), which, as usual, compounds to ridiculous levels pretty quick. Bonus point for selling when the top channel is reached.
This is easy enough to backtest and usually systematically outperforms buy and hold, though it's not as impressive as adding an inversion strategy like getting into volatility when the top is reached.
Even just buying above MA and selling under MA is known to significantly outperform buy and hold in most scenarios, and always outperform in the long run (see LRS).

Today is our day SQQQ bros

>>22534589
OAS TO THE MOON

>>22535415
no

>>22535102
>weapons manufacturing company
>LOOKS LIKE THEIR STOCK IS REALLY ABOUT TO TANK

>>22535415
OMG I DID THAT MEME I'M SO HAPPY SOMEBODY USE IT

>>22535423
yes

want to buy my first option contract, too pussy to buy something.

>>22535256
That's just equivalent to saying "if you do good research, you'll beat the market." Which is a tautology: if the research doesn't help you beat the market, it must not have been very good.

There have been some fairly famous studies showing that most active fund managers underperform a simple buy-and-hold strategy, and that the longer the time horizon, the fewer can do it consistently. That's partly because of their fees and expenses, and also partly because they're sometimes forced to do things they'd rather not because of fund rules. But even having said that, if the full-time professionals aren't able to get a significant advantage over the market despite all their time and research, it certainly makes me skeptical that I can.

>>22535460
U gay dude

>>22535480
SQQQ calls

>>22535480

Wait til Apple dips under 113.75 and then pick up some calls there

>>22535259
last console release was 7 fucking years ago, dude.

I am financially ruined.

>>22535480
Use a chart. If you're using tdameritrade you can chart the price like anything else to make sure you aren't buying bags

>>22535480
All in on GME $25c 9/18

>>22535490
leverage on leverage
degenerate gambling at its finest lol.

>>22535480
90% of the time you will lose your $ anyway so it really doesn't matter just pick one.

>>22535485
i hate that this misunderstanding persists, but there is A HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FUND MANAGERS MANAGING LITERALLY *BILLIONS* OF DOLLARS AND YOUR LIKELY 5-FIGURE ACCOUNT YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

>>22535485
Yea that’s why you buy and hold and add on red days. It’s not timing the market to wait for a red day to buy.

who told me we weren't opening red

>>22535102
>>22535434
>space travel company
>LOOKS LIKE THEIR STOCK IS GOING TO THE MOON
>AND THEN REENTERING EARTH AND CRASHING INTO THE OCEAN

>>22535480
Buy something long dated and then immediately sell it for the same price. There, you broke you options virginity without any risk.

Buy CPRX. This is your final and only warning.

>>22535501
Good.

>TSLA
someone hold my hands

>>22535544
We aren't

>>22535534
>assuming that we'll ever get red days again

>>22535567
how sure would you say you are about that?

>>22535564
WHAT IS HAPPENING ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN

Why can't these Robinniggers do anything right? Shit is worse than Bitmex

>>22535544
It was me

>>22535167
Yea you’re picture sure got to me
>are ya winning son?

>>22535522
The various excuses for how the market it supposedly unbeatable are the final filter no midwit can pass.

I fucking sold KODAK FOR A LOST AT 6 NOW ITS NEARLY 10 FUCK YOU

Imagine not buying SIVE

>>22535564
OH NO KAREN :'(

>>22535597
ruh roh usually this happens right before the rug pull

>>22535615

You only lose when you sell.

>>22535485
>if the full-time professionals aren't able to get a significant advantage over the market despite all their time and research, it certainly makes me skeptical that I can.
With all due respect bro, maybe you're just a retard. Trading isn't for everybody and sometimes the most courageous choice is to just go all in VOO and wait 40 years

>futures dropping
>tesla dumping premarket
YOU HAD SO MANY OPTIONS AND YOU CHOSE DEATH

>>22535615
to be fair if you're gambling in Kodak then you should expect like 90% potential downside

SQQ, TQQ, and FNGU all red wtf is happening

>>22535667
The crab king comes

MARKETS DIPPING WHY?????? ?FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Fine. Dont listen to me. I'm telling you to watch uuuu and uec closely.

>>22535660
>not investing in a bitcoin mining/pharmaceutical company

>>22535534
i feel like the issue with this idea right now is how fucked up the fundamentals of the economy are especially in the US, with the pandemic still in full swing and the FED printing trillions with 0% interest rates, lots of people out of work and businesses closing, moratorium on mortgage payments, etc etc.

there will absolutely be another crash coming up, idk when but obviously this fucked up shit has to get fixed at some point. the covid crash was a perfect time to enter a long term buy and hold, if you got in there you're fine even in the event of another crash. you didn't want to be buying in at the top before that happened though, would you? i guess my main point would be, at the very least, your initial entry point is very important, THEN you can get into "adding on red days" or whatever.

im just mad i only learned how to figure out where the bottom is AFTER the covid crash and missed out. but im certain there has to be a major correction at some point to make the market line up with fundamentals again. and if the market stays completely detached from fundamentals i'll stick to day trading because i don't trust it for shit, it isn't based on anything real.

the easiest thing that could cause it, although none of us think it will happen any time soon im sure, is whenever the FED increases interest rates again. we're already at fucking 0% they can't just go into negative interest rates or some shit they're out of ammo and need to restock at SOME point.

>>22535615
lmao why did you sell? get back in its only going up for a while

>>22535676
the only stock i have that is not crabbing rn is fucking MRNA. not even NVAX is pumping. i'm so confused.

>>22535656
>OIL up premarket
Oil gods...is it finally time to awaken?

Innovative Industrial Properties (NYSE:IIPR)

YES/NO?

WW3 HAPPENING RUG PULL GREAT DEPRESIION THE BEAR WILL LEAVE ITS CAVE FOREVER CURRENCY RESET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Wow TSM brutally pumped since last time i checked

>>22535676
theta bros win again..

>>22535699
>real estate
no

>>22535683
no man, i'd rather put my money in GME shitcoins

>>22535689
Let's hope, I've bought 2000$ of USO when it crashed two weeks ago and I've been bagholding since then

>>22535699
Buy us uranium. Now.

>>22535718
They are into medical cannabis, Anon. Do at least 10 second of research.
There's a few states voting to legalize in November.

Powell gonna announce -10% interest rate today. We're all gonna make it bros.

i thought palantir IPO was today?

Forget the Fed. This man will save us. By more deep OTM calls on tech you glorious Japanese boomer

>>22535717
It's glorious. I could live just on what I get a month off re-upping these. Easiest money in the history of the world

who told me we weren't going to open red?

>>22535753
I don't have enough money clearly

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>22535714
Fucking right it did made me a lot of fucking money too
>>22535730
I bought NRGU because it kind of looks like NIGGER

>>22535500
...damn it has been that long....

Regardless, I really doubt a console release is going to spark investors or traders to hop in...

>>22535597
Does this mean that selling is now delayed? How long does this usually last?

>>22535773
Why didn't you listen?
You could've listened

>>22534850
Imagine arguing instead of posting shorts.

>>22535777
HEEEEEYYYY BUUUULLLLLLSSSSS

>>22535791
Until (((they))) set their shorts and finish dumping

Imagine using robinhood
Hahaha
Oh man this sucks

HORSEFRENS I AM SO NERVOUS

>>22535791
Good question. Lately it's just interfered with the dashboard and selling/buying has gone through but there was that one time in March where everybody missed the epic bounce and got fucked on their option calls. That was a sad day

Imagine not being all in on HD right now

OHHHHHHHH MYY FUUUCCKINNNN GAAAAAWD GMMMEEEE IMM GONNNAA FOOOOKIINN COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMmmmmmMmMmMMMMM

>>22535709
really hoping for that reset ngl
bimetal pls

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>22535813

They can’t keep getting away with it!

>>22535746
23. Snowflake today

>>22535748
Based.

>>22535813
Real red days always start with RH shitting itself.

>>22535823
i coom here every morning for this.

>>22535822
>Home Depot co-founder: ‘I’m a capitalist’ but business has to think about planet, not just profit
PUBLISHED MON, SEP 14 20205:48 PM

>>22535823
kys

>>22535823

niggers tongue my anus

>>22535127
From thumbnail I thought she is working out in some gym machine.

WHAT WAS THAT

>>22535748
>buying deep OTM calls on US meme tech with billions of other people's money
Is he /ourguy/ or wsb's guy?

>>22535684
>obviously this fucked up shit has to get fixed at some point.
Does it? Does it really?

>>22535773
We just opened green, though

Where my gay niggas at? Suck dick in a portapotty and blow bubbles of shit out ya mouth type niggas. REPRASEEEENT

QQQ +0.3%

what the fuck was THAT

>>22535746
>*uncovers palantiri, communes with dark lord soros*

seriously tho looking at the 13f of soros family fund he bought recently in XERS pharma and then it doubled, wondering whether this could be used for the virus vaccine given problems with delivery. rn its just an insulin delivery so makes little sense why the 135 year old vampiric lord of the markets is interested. we must join him anon. we must know his will.

>>22535684
>they can't just go into negative interest rates or some shit
And again: why not? Plenty of other countries have done it

what the fuck was that just now?

>>22535896
>>>/lgbt/
RIght over there muh nigguh

>>22535813
Man I am so fucking glad I got out of Robinhood. If it's not abundantly clear they're using "outages" as an excuse to FUCK THEIR CLIENTS IN THE ASS then you're retarded. The BEST case scenario is they're ridiculosly, unforgivably incompetent. But I think it's obv there's more to the story than just incompetence. Every fucking time their little memestocks like TSLA get fucked over in premarket RH has a service outage forcing Karens to baghold until the price action stabilizes. Every fucking time. It's actually pretty hilarious and based because only dumb faggots and Karens use RH anyway so fuck them.

Oh no, gamers, Google is cancelling us!

where do i get live data of SNOW?

Palantir is basically near the bottom of that iceberg meme image right. Everything about this seems:
1. A meme
2. Absolutely dystopia

>>22535414
The point of the Schwab methodology is to show that, counterintuitive as it seems, someone who consistently picked the best possible time to buy in would still underperform a DCAer. For most investors, that's a fairly rational comparison. I don't consider that disingenuous.
Japan-style permacrab is an acceptable worst-case scenario (or if you want even worse, Iceland). But it's worth noting that, if you were stuck investing in Japanese companies, you'd be at the same disadvantage and might still have trouble beating the Japanese index. I'd be interested to see a study of Japanese fund managers vs the Nikkei, to see if they had any better or worse luck compared to their American counterparts.
As for the strategy you described, give me a sec and I'll backtest it myself.

>>22535921
JEWISH MAGIC

Just bought my first option contract SPY340C091820

Where the HECK is the downvote button??

>>22535753
How much money did you use to buy however much SOXL you have?

Wish i bought around $70 but didn't understand leveraged ETF's as well back then.

>>22535935
They're trying to hide it.
Fast! Go all in!

>>22535939
What do you use to backtest?

Remember guys
Buy high sell low

HOLY FUCK I AM DOWN $6

>>22535684
>there will absolutely be another crash coming up, idk when but obviously this fucked up shit has to get fixed at some point

You have learned nothing.

>NKLA tard strength pumps up $2 on open
pottery
Didn't the CEO recently pump the price by buying $30 of shares? Wonder if he is the kike pushing the price up these days, stupid faggotnigger. Hope he rots in prison and gets anally raped

>>22534389
WHY IS NKLA PUMPING REEEEEE

>>22535741
>weed stocks
lol
too many bagholders from 2018 still keeping their valuations massively inflated and priced in already for US legalization

>>22535939
There are dozens of papers that backtested that lump sum > DCA. Really what DCA has morphed into is chipping in a bit of a paycheck every so often. More to be consistent than to maximize returns and because most people don't have infinite capital.
However, that assumes a secular bull market or a secular bear market for the USD. If neither of those is true (like Japan), then getting into the stock market was the wrong move in the first place.

fucking crapple

>>22535948
I got in around $130 and have a bit over 1000 shares so maybe $135k or so. I usually pull between 2 and 3k a month with the covered calls so just that annualized is almost 20% a year. I'm pretty happy about it. If the shares keep appreciating over the long term like they have I don't even want to speculate what it could turn into. A lot. And if they dump I'll just sell out and try to buy back in lower

I still need some help understanding how UVXY and VXX follow VIX. The prices don't seem to match up at all for what is happening.

>>22535985
hmmm

>>22535997
>hurrr its a property stock
>hurrr its a weed stock
Nigger do the MINIMUM of research before responding, or don't respond.

Why isn''t snowflake trading yet?
I have no experience trading IPOs, so is it normal for IPOs not to be trading as soon as the market opens?

You have now entered. The crab zone

>>22536000
Get shit on stupid also checked

>TSLA down
>TQQQ up
Intredasting

Anyone know when Jerome speaks? Get the feeling he may say something about either
>increasing the interest rate
>decreasing the interest rate into the negatives

>>22535684
Stocks will likely have another crash within 2 years imo. Idk when though but don't intend to be fully in lest I be btfo'd wjilst still unemployed and have no funds to get cheapies.

>>22535597
Robin hood down. VIX not reporting. What is going on?

>>22536040
Hate it when a stock crabs at exactly the level where I'm even on it. No loss, no win, no direction, and you don't know if you want to stay or leave. Its just keeping your money hostage.

>>22536036
whales get first dips. never buy. they want suckers like you to pump ontop of them, then they dump after. go look at every IPO

>>22536059
I don't know but every day I inch closer to moving to tdameritrade

>>22534389
OH NO KAREN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH TSLA :'( I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SLAY QUEEN BUT THE NUMBER IS RED I THINK THATS BAD
KAREN?
KAREN ARE YOU THERE?

what the fuck is HAPPENINGGGG OOOOOOO

>>22535935
if this shit tanks below 3 dollars ill go all in, literally the nu age block buster going the way of the dinosaur and unironically for the same reason

>>22536059
VIX is up 2.7%

>>22536052
Hes not going to say either of those things lmfao

Uh guys, KODK is doing that fucking (((thing))) again.

>You now remember the jew couple that set up a "charity" like 3 days before the initial pump and dumped all their money in it

just shorted the nasdaq with $10000 on a 500x leveraged cfd.
am i going to make it lads?

>>22536092
Margin call coming.

>>22536019
Dont give a single fuck about the chart. They're getting investigated by the SEC and DOJ. No amount TA and FA(if they even had any to begin with) will save them

Daily reminder if you can't beat QQQ, join it.

>>22536068
thanks for the warning, cancelling my standing order then. When is the whale offering over so that retail investors can get in?

>>22536092
how does $999999999 sound

>>22536109
NEVER

>>22536081
Kodl is unironically a jewish pump and dump(a synagogues behind the pump). They wont get sent to jail tho trump supports the jews.

>>22536068
Then why did RKT continue to appreciate like 35% before the doomp

collecting nkla puts oh bb

>>22535485
Full time professionals are just every day people. Have you worked an office job before? It should be obvious it you have that very incompetent people are given positions they clearly aren't qualified for, but they either have the right connections, the right amount of charisma and bullshitting, or they're conventionally attractive. The good traders get their earnings averaged down by all the bad traders.

>>22535547
>fitness company
>looks like their muscles aren't the only thing pumping this morning

>>22536052
>>increasing the interest rate
>>decreasing the interest rate into the negatives
Abso-fucking-lutely not. Unless he wanted to legendary troll the President. Probably not that brave or creative though

robinhood needs to start working again so these fucking zoomies can buy TSLA and pump me

>>22536076

This slut looks like she fucks like a tiger

>>22536003
I see. Thanks for the information puts things into perspective eg my assumption that you got in around the best prices of around $70 which wouldve bewn an awesome deal. Unfortunately I actually had the chance of jumping in at $70....even with about mid 30k I'd have been able to get 400 to 500 shares but I'd likely haven't grabbed more than 200 but with the knowledge I have now I'd likely have gone nearly all in or at least 50%ish so 300 shares at least.

>>22536081
How the fuck is this even possible?

>>22536111
From the other IPOs I've seen. The price will usually open way over the listing and you won't be able to actually touch the opening price. Then it will take off. Then it will fucking tank and be volatile as hell before coming to a stable area

>>22536129

>>22535485
Yeah you're a faggot, I think bloomberg comments are more appropriate for you, you have terminal normie aids

>>22536144
I just did, hope it helps anon

If i own a call options contract how do I
1) exercise it -?
2) sell it to someone - sell to close right

>>22536101
>>22536122
going well atm

>>22536161
There'll be another chance. March was a huge learning experience just can't forget the lesson

To any anon that actually gives a shit: I don't mind losing so long as I can understand why. Why isn't UVXY tracking the VIX?

>>22536143
>JP does nothing
So, it's going to dump then.

>>22536177
>normie
Found the normalnigger.

>>22536074
TSLA Karens please respond how much are we buying today? Are we going to Starbucks after to talk shit about our friends? TSLA Karens?

>>22536166
Well, price increase when people buy. That's about it

>>22536143
Jerome Powell likely to just spout the same old BS.

No Interest rate hikes, no negative interest rates. Urge Congress to help Negronoids.

>>22536081
is it going to pump back to 40 bucks again? imagine buying an option or 2 right now and riding mister bones ride all the way to the top.

nigga fuck..... i am going to do it anon, i am doing it.

>>22535944
You basically spent money for nothing because SPY will crab until the end of the week.

THE RALLY IS OVER. SQQQ IS UP.

oh mumu

>>22536052
>>increasing the interest rate
wont happen for years
>decreasing the interest rate into the negatives
wont happen ever
It's going to be the same old dovish shit. markets are going to tank, gold is going to rise a bit and bond yields drop.

>>22536183
There are options displayed in your trading view.

>>22536183
You mean like physically how? That depends on your broker. Or you dont understand what exercizing / selling to close does?

>>22536183
>1) exercise it -?
Click the button that says exercise in your broker app and have enough money to buy the hundred shares at the strike price
>2) sell it to someone - sell to close right
yep

>>22536206
bullish

>>22536167
Yes, but approximately how long after market opening will we have to wait to follow these developments? Yahoo finance isn't showing any SNOW movement at all so far

I want to make some money but I feel like a reckoning is coming in the market. It will always be much harder to gain back what you lose percentage wise, yet we're approaching February highs. 90% of people polled think that stocks are currently overvalued.

The only way this makes sense to me is if the crash was actually an overcorrection, and nothing was really affected at all.

>>22536092
I would laugh my ass if someone actually attempted this and closed the position when Nasdaq hit a -10%. Imagine the shitstorm it would provoke when all that money was being bought back.

>>22535939
Fund managers never have and never will matter because they inherently are not at an advantage by having good returns compared to some index and don't typically perform better as a company if they perform better or worse than an index.
The point is that the schwab methodology shows precisely nothing at all because it's a literal strawman, and that there is plenty of research showing that even the basic strategies I outlined (which are, by definition, timing the market strategies) greatly outperform buy and hold (i.e. time in the market).
Their methodology for "timing" is NOT to put whatever you have on hand at an optimal timing, it's literally to put the entire thing in before the day of the greatest gains, then removing the money, which is an insane strawman.

>>22536102
Its not a pusher if it rolls

>>22536129
..what? I took part in the RKT IPO. Got in at like $19, sold at like $22 cause I knew it'd dip, and it did. It only rose again after about a week or so if shitting the been That's when you wanna get into an IPO, after it's already pump n dumped. I dunno how the SEC doesn't go after it when it happens to every IPO. They should rule that purchasing an IPO on the week it's offered locks your position for 30 days or something. But I guess that will just lead to massive dumps later down the line...

>>22536171
Looks like plenty of opportunity for retail there to me

>VIX is going up
Bullbros?

WKHS horsefrens I went from being nervous about the day to wtf. Why is ol'e seabiscuit pumping so hrd?

>>22536238
I pulled most of my stuff out of tech and put it into the big pharmas making vaccines. good profit. even if 1 vaccine collapses, the incoming pump for my other vacc investments will make massive gains.

>>22536137
Charisma never enters the picture, it's politics.

sooo... We buy gold today?

Jerome, halp

>>22535894
>we opened green, therefore the entire rest of the day and week is green. r-r-right fellow bulls?
god, listen to you people.

>>22536059
Just glad I pulled 60% out yesterday

>>22536266
>bullbros

>>22536235
there isn't a set time that you'll be aware of

I am staying out until elections happen. Sold my over valued tech stocks weeks ago and bought a few speculative puts on sp500 near the money. Waiting to see if the election is contested which should surely bring stocks down a leg.

>>22535939
>Japan-style permacrab is an acceptable worst-case scenario
If you'd reinvested the dividends throughout the entire decade and a half you'd have averaged about 8% a year in gains

MA or V

>>22536092
closed my trade almost immediately. regret

>>22536186
>There'll be another chance
I hope it's in less than 2 years I really want to financially make it for my family's sake and at this point other than options the odds aren't looking good. Had I stuck with all the calls I recently did for a few weeks more up to maybe the very last week I'd likely have been up several 10k worths....very demoralizing.

>>22536269
Because we are going to fucking MAKE IT dude. TSLA Karens get FUCKED, WKHS Chads FUCK

>>22535256
No, the bottom one is 'timing the market'. The top one is just a strawman.
'time in the market' is when you just go in right now with no DD because you suppose it will always be higher eventually.

>>22536269
Because I sold, enjoy.

Just wageslave for jp morgan bro, you'll get a nip wife who doesn't love you but stays with you for muh lesponsbile carrer. God normie asian women are the devil's spawn

>>22536166
short squeeze again
retard short sellers jumping in on a manipulated stock

>>22536266
not yet, Powell has to talk first

>>22536221
lol i thought you roped

>>22536272
Maybe I'm just being too cautious but I don't even feel like that is safe if the whole market dives again.

>>22536266
>>22536266
UVXY ISN'T. WHAT IS GOING ON?

>report comes out that Boeing cut all kinds of corners on the max
>pumps
This really is a fucking clown market

>>22536243
>then removing the money, which is an insane strawman.
Why are you lying? The Schwab graphic never mentions removing the money.

And since there is "plenty of research": post it.

>>22536232
no exercise button I'm assuming since I don't have enough money to buy 100 shares lol.

>>22536065
sell half at break even and average down more.

>>22536314
This is oddly specific

>>22536314
>you'll get a nip wife who doesn't love you but stays with you for muh lesponsbile carrer
I wouldn't really mind that, would be better than dying alone at least I guess

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>>22534389

>Powell gets on mic
>"You want to ball til you fall? I can help you with that
>walks out of the room
>stock market moons
>boomers commit suicide

>>22536347
Ah shit lmao
Im drunk

Someone else post the new bread

>>22536323
pull out and cash hold until election

>>22536347
first for OP is a faggot

>>22536347
good stuff lad

>>22536344
>44
you're already cursed just by saying that

New thread you blody basterd biches

>>22535996
To clarify: lump-sum (specifically, all in at the very beginning) consistently beats DCaing a fixed total amount in over a series of weeks or months. This supports the "time in the market" position: the lump-summer maximizes time in the market by putting it all in at once.

Like you said, though, most people don't invest this way because they don't Have a huge chunk of money sitting in their bank accounts. Instead, they have a certain amount of each paycheck they can invest. The comparison in the Schwab study was something like:
Person 1: just buys $1000 each month, no matter what.
Person 2: puts $1000 cash each month in a bank account, then uses that lump amount to buy each time the market crashes
Person 3: puts away $1000 each month, then fucks up by lump buying right before every downturn.
Your intuition is probably that #2 would work the best, but in fact #1 blows them out of the water.

So to clarify: lump-sum all in immediately if best if you suddenly get a lot of money. Simple "buy X each week/month" is best if you're limited by current income. Both are strategies that maximize time in the market.

>>22536347
Anon, were you trying to make a new thread?
Do you need help?

>>22536309
I hope so fren

>>22536311
I see that you read my book on trading. Wait until you get to the chapter titled "Buying in and out of a stock multiple times due to FOMO and bitch hands and how it can make you(r broker) RICH"

>>22536347
Kek

>>22536347
kek well done OP

OOF!

>>22536362
>>22536364
>>22536368
>>22536372
>>22536374
Thanks
U too

>>22536344
You would be surprised how loving someone can be who's staying with you for reasons other than money and pee pee tingles.

>>22536365
>44
>四四
>死死
Nah, this is just a sign about what the market is gonna do today my fellow bobo

>>22536377
Oh shit. It didn't even bounce. Circuit breaker incoming.

>>22536398
this. my current gf is an introvert nip and she loved me when i was still a pathetic neet living with my parents. best feeling in the world.

pls convince me to not buy tesla

>>22536398
You're right I probably would be, but that's never gonna happen which is why I wouldn't mind settling for what the other anon mentioned
If I'm wrong and it does happen for me, hey that's great too I guess

>>22536426
>>22536426
>>22536426

Migrate

>>22536334
>The Schwab graphic never mentions removing the money.
It explicitly says the money is removed and call it optimal timing.

>>22536416
What does her pussy smell like?

>>22536424
negative growth
unprofitable
420billion dollar market cap

Go look at what happened to cisco when it had a 500 billion market cap in a similar position.

>>22536361
Bears don't make money on the market though. I don't know if I'm too bearish or not. I might just be a coward.

What happens next?

>>22536347

Wheeeeeeeeeeee.....

FIRST TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!!!!!!!!!

New

>>22536426
>>22536426

>>22535500
Consoles today are just shitty PCs. Only kiddies without money buy consoles, anyone with money sinks a small fortune on a PC so they can live stream on twitch with their 10 followers to larp as a pro-gamer.

>>22536449
>her

>>22536416
Is she also a NEET?
Is she hairy and smelly?
Does she let you lick her armpits?
メチャ羨ましい

>>22535944
expires in ...2 days? anon, just burn your money.

>>22536290
Shhhh the divvyhater might be listening. You don't want to give him an embolism, do you?

>>22536424
>>22536450
you guys are retards lol
>they don't know
September 22 faggots that's all I'll say.

>>22536498
>she

>>22536446
So, you're just going to continue lying?

I keep looking at horse to dip down to 20-21 to buy more and this hurts but then again I'm making huge gains so I guess it's fine.

>>22536235
Well when is the actual ipo opening. Alot of them are noon

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>>22536713
Cool story bro

>>22536463
It crabs until Trump is president again

>>22536713
Carthago Delenda Est, Frater