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Sept 23rd or Sept 27th SLV calls?

>>22383317
Sept 30th 27c*

>>22383317
It's probably safer to buy LEAPS on a miner of your choice.

>>22383258

brehs, look what came in the mail today :3
my first silver krugers, anyone know how vulnerable they generally are to milkspots?

Is clown world going to work in our favor, bros? Will junior minors be priced for silver at $1,000?

I never asked for this.

No amount of gold or silver can fill the void in my heart now.

>>22383258
First for the rats

>>22383292

>>I'm bullish AF, but under what circumstances would we see miners hit high multiples of their 2011 ATH's?

Explained how this may be the case in this post:

>>22372641

"When silver doubled between '62 and '68, the average silver penny stock went up 160x. If we revert to a GSR of 1:15 silver will do much more than double, -- inflation-adjusted for the 1980 ATH, it would be $600 today -- so 100-400x for companies like Impact is completely possible to me. Even companies like DSV, with market caps of half a billion, could go 50x and become the Kirkland Lakes of silver."

One source for 160x figure: https://www.historylink.org/File/8883

It's also interesting to note that, in the 2001-2011 bull market, the _index_ of _all_ gold stocks, including bad miners and large caps, went up 1700%.

>>22383508
That's the idea. Don't see how miners would go under. Hell, their owners would probably become the new lords of the age.

>>22383574
shhh my penis can only get so erect

>>22383580

Eric Sprott is going to be far richer than Jeff Bezos. He may become the world's first trillionaire. He has a $62-million-dollar position in Discovery Metals alone.

>>22383508
boomer here. Nobody knows. I got fucked in the last crisis by buying gold at 1500 when everyone said it was going to moon like they are now. I since bought when it was cheaper so I'm sitting good, but, expect the possibility to have some very heavy bags for a long time. The fact of the matter is the gold and silver bugs are a bunch of alarmists and are basically worthless to listen to. You should listen to you. If you are stacking for a long time horizon, then do that. I think in a time horizon of 20-30 years it's a good investment.

The mining stocks you are asking about are volatile and you might have your lunch handed to you on those. All about risk tolerance.

>>22383439
it really doesn't an action being boring to you does not make it an unwise action... I wouldnt tell someone to learn how to play poker by starting in a casino with real money...

Some lessons are cheaper then others anon, stonks are for monies not entertainment.

>>22383490
they're gonna get milk spots and theres nothing you can do about it bud

>>22383490
milk spots come off with a soft white pencil eraser, dont worry about it.

>>22383799
more than the big other mints?

>>22383638
What’s scaring me right now is how unable DC is to spend more money.
I never in a million years thought that inflation would be stopped not by an unwillingness to print, but rather an inability to agree what to print FOR.
And during the one time where probably even gold bugs agree you need to do more stimulus, after decades of spending trillions on unpopular garbage wars that nobody liked.
Clown world.

>>22383638
The 2011 run was much different than this- there's a pinch on supply in addition to wild money policies - buckle up

>>22383833
yea it seems like it
>>22383826
>replacing milk spots with scratches

Guys seriously, no BS, will I lose everything going all in on small cap junior miners?

>>22384060
No, the good days more than make up for the short term pain. Up about 20% for the year.

>>22383840
It's not likely something we're going to be able to anticipate. I'm not saying I'm some expert investor (although I have done fairly well, at least out performed the market by a few % especially if you include tax efficiency, over the last twenty years), I'm just saying that there isn't a whole lot new going on now it's just in a new scale. When we did the post 2008 QE that was crazy also, we just keep reaching new levels of crazy. Clown world has been around for a while.

>>22383873
Maybe this time is different, I'm just saying don't count on it. Buy a certain amount each year and forget about it. There were wild money policies in the last crisis, and the pinch in supply was the big call to action for people to buy in the last run up.

We also don't really know how bad corona is yet. The 2008 crisis really started in like 2006. I realize corona isn't the same thing, but, where shit really shits the fan is not when the incident happens - corona or house prices going down - it's when it starts to test the increasingly leveraged financial systems in new ways. So in that timeline we are only in late 2006. Right now we also have an interesting circumstance where we don't have a tight group of people that need a bailout (yet) like the banks and AIG were - where we could really pinpoint where to spend to save the day - now it seems to be spread across a myriad of different industries and small, medium and large businesses.

>>22384060
Yes

>>22384060
Don't go all in man, unless your last name is Sprott. 70% physical, 30% paper of which 15% speculative is what I go by.

How based is this one, kind of tempted, saw it sometimes in this thread

>>22384060
Stocks always have the possibility of going to 0.
Physical does not.

>>22384085
Eh I think direct payments of $1200 and basically free loans for every small biz in America were “something new”. In 08 I think the direct payments were like $25 a week.
I just don’t think that DC, especially the Rs, understand how important continued support of that nature is. You can’t have an economy where the average person is living paycheck to paycheck and then prevent them from collecting paychecks for 6 months. $1200 ain’t gonna cut
it.

>>22383508
God, Church, ammo, food, water, silver, gear.
To divide these in cost is to unite them under God.

>>22384060

Your fear is one of the best arguments for investment. Nobody is afraid of Tesla or the QQQ. Bull markets climb a wall of worry. Mainstream stocks are more overvalued than ever before in human history, while miners are more undervalued than ever before in human history.

The fundamentals are as plain as day:

Can the governments of the world ever escape their debt-traps? No.

Does this mean that paper-currency must go to zero? Yes.

What becomes the only safe haven when paper-currency is going to zero? Precious metals.

Who dig up precious metals? Mining companies.

What are premiums like where you guys are at right now?
In USD I can get silver Philharmonikers at 31.78 a piece, Belgium.

>>22383902
I have done this many times, a soft white pencil eraser never scratched anything. You need to clean off any dirt on there first or pressing the dirt into the coin will scratch it, but the eraser wont.

>>22384289
That's cheaper than in Austria itself, kek. Privat sellers might go down to to 30-31 USD. but dealers are beyond 32 and maybe even up to 35

I only have silver mining stock and want to get a little bit into gold. If you were to recommend one gold company, which would it be?

>>22384289

https://www.acheter-or-argent.fr/

They're the cheapest I know in France, don't know if they deliver in Belgium

>>22384152
Based and God pilled

>>22384416
My bad, it's 32.15$ here

>>22384414

>>22384414
Depends on what risk you're looking to take. Low risk, get a royalty company, Franco Nevada or Wheaton PM. Maybe a senior like Barrick or Newmont.

High risk, some of the other people here know a lot more about the juniors.

>>22384123
>Stocks always have the possibility of going to 0.
False. Nobody would sell at zero (give something away for free) while paying transaction costs. There's always a minimum but it never goes to zero.

>>22384152
holy based

>>22384448
Why even use a rifle cartridge in a barrel this fucking short?

>>22384448
We're gonna make it.
Silber bros keep saying buy now.
About 2 or 3 threads ago from yesterday I mentioned buying silver would put me back a month. No one knows my finances better than me, so I have to stick to close to 10 ounces this month.

>>22384414

Low risk, low reward: Barrick

Medium risk, medium reward: St Barbara

High risk, high reward: Spanish Mountain

Very high risk, very high reward: Goldquest Mining

Based round in pic related, and I witnessed a based interaction at the LCS earlier today.

Boomer getting Morgan/Peace Dollars for his granddaughter (7 for 7th birthday, and got 6 for last BDay too!). Why weren't MY grandparents that based? I had to rescue my grandfather's stack from my Boomer father that wanted to fucking sell it.

>>22384585
The muzzle velocity is still really high, but you can't tell what caliber it fires from this picture. You can have an AR in 9mm that looks exactly like that if you're using mag conversion kits.

Also, what is a PDW?

Give it to me straight. Will I be able to buy acres with my stack?

>>22384566
>lose 98% of value
>gets delisted

>>22383638
>The fact of the matter is the gold and silver bugs are a bunch of alarmists and are basically worthless to listen to. You should listen to you. If you are stacking for a long time horizon, then do that. I think in a time horizon of 20-30 years it's a good investment.

Based boomer. Yep I remember the squawking of the metalbugs in '10-'12 but my instincts didn't agree so I didn't really stack, just hunted around buying up cheap silver (some gold) to sell profitably and fast. Did quite well desu and started an online business with proceeds, but now things are very fundamentally different so my instincts have been going nuts since the end of January so Ive been stacking and scrapping at a prodigious rate this year.

It's taken some conscious effort to make sure I diversify and get miners, gold, and resource sector exposure too because all my gut truly cares about is silver ingots. Probably not wrong either but I'm already autistic enough lol, gotta hedge bets and protect myself from myself ya know?

Got little babies now and I desperately want them and their own children to have the best lives I can secure so my stacking is ultimately all for them, IDGAF about getting rich I just want a happy healthy secure family and a wholesome rest of my life raising heirloom vegetables and fruits and chickens on the homestead. I'll die a happy man if at the end of my days I still have garden dirt caked under my nails and a happy prosperous family to carry on living the good life for me. Is that too much to ask of the world? I hope not.

What is the ideal gold to silver ratio?
I'm currently at about 1:13

>>22384585
To deafen your enemies in case you miss.

Should I buy 25 Maple leafs for 686€ (814$) or some gold ? Already got 35oz silver and 0.4 oz gold

>>22384683
You forgot to post it.

>>22384208
My fear is that the government and central banks will find deviously creative financial mechanisms to artificially support the dollar and the markets, thus kicking the can down the road another decade, and keeping PM’s and miners in their current place or worse.

>>22384585
>faster then any PCC
>longer range then PCC
>more power then PCC
>same ammo as rest of rifles
>ingress/egress from vehicles
>lightweight
>can slap a suppressor on their for a "longer" barrel if the paper work ever fucking comes through
>because I already have a 20"
>because they wont let me get a P90 with the short barrel and that ammo is fucking expensive.

Yeah losing 20ish percent of velocity is a trade off, a large one even, but it has its place. This build only cost me like 500 bux so why the fuck not.

>>22384819
Francebro, before ordering, check these guys out
goud999 . com

good prices & service imo, it's the Philhamoniker price I cited just now

>>22384792
Is that ratio in weight or value?

>>22384938
Nice, I just checked the price but I don't speak Dutch. Do they deliver in France ?

>>22384669
its 5.56, I can convert it to .22 lr in about 60 seconds too, really good for younger/smaller people to have fun plinking with, and the 22lr doesnt lose the same velocity.

>>22384808
>*warrior poet voice*
>A FIRE BREATHING DRAGON

good miners that are down today?

>>22385018
I believe so, but they have an "ask if you're outside the Benelux for shipping" policy. They have a live chat but close at 18H

>rest of the world buys PM's
>america dumps
At least it's going up overall.

>>22384863

At this point, I'll affirm that pulling a rabbit out of a hat is impossible. The bankers' only ammunition was cutting yields with Q. E., and yields are now really negative. And debts are large, balance-sheets so enormous, asset-bubbles so colossal, that yields can never go really positive again, only more and more down. Unless we suppose that our ruling class are willing to crash stocks by 95%, destroy the banks with everyone's savings inside them, and cut every socialist programme in existence, there won't be another Volcker to let yields go up and heal the economy. And even if there was, the dollar would instantly lose its status as the world-reserve currency, and gold, as the only other tier-1 asset in the world, would resume that former place as money which it has occupied for 5000 years.

>>22385088
Happens everyday

>>22385055
KGC is one.

>>22385103
I know, they're basically fighting to keep their fiat as the world reserve currency.

>>22384863
It can't happen. The race to the bottom is finished, the people are demoralized and ready for change. Upheaval needs to happen first before some new status quo sets in.

>>22385070
I will ask them tomorrow then. Thanks anon

>>22385094
One thing they seem to be pushing is UBI. It is a distinct possibility that governments are dumb enough to try to give everyone UBI and then attempt to fix prices, and it is a disctinct possibility that enough people are dumb enough to think its a good idea.

source:

interactions with dumb people who think this

>>22384105

Doug Casey actually said a couple of weeks ago, in a joint-interview with Rick Rule, that, if he had one piece of advice to give to young people, it would be to go all in on small-cap junior mining stocks. I believe it's part 2 of the interview, but don't know the correct timestamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbxwQ2B39c&ab_channel=KitcoNEWS

plz r8 i am desperate for attention

>>22385313
UBI is a great idea I will just spend it all on physical

>>22385313
What is UBI anon ?

>>22385313
>>22385376
UBI is horribly deflationary for the real economy because it disincentives work. Which will further reduce supply, raising prices further for the paper inflation appcalypse.

>>22384792
Not fucking selling my slivers until gsr 3:1

>>22384767
Based

>>22384342
Yes this is true. Pink erasers contain abrasives which do scratch coins, white softer rubber erasers, like in mechanical pencils, tend not to leave visible marks though you need to make sure the eraser and coin are clean and grit free.

Bullion coins aren't true numismatics so it's purely a personal aesthetic issue in my opinion, if you find another sperg who demands mirror finishes and will pay a premium then good for you, but since most bullion just sits in tubes and never circulates like real coin Gem Uncirculated rounds are the norm. Only gullible retards buy slabbed or otherwise overpriced bullion thinking it's actually worth any more than bullion content. Buying for enjoyment is a different matter, but as "investments" they'll never pay off.

If one wants to actually collect worthy high-grade numismatics, search for deals on minty Morgan and Peace dollars and the like, lots are coming into shops and some dealers are either dumb or too busy to look at everything being sold as junk silver. Dad found some scarce $50-$100 value high grade 1930s Washington quarters for his collection last week bought at 20/1.00 face for example. I have a poorfag friend who has basically all his wealth in 20 superb high grade Morgans. Way smarter than collecting slabbed ASEs or taxed memeshit rounds.

Dont know if I should wait for a dip in the minner or just start buying right now

I just want a kg ingot of gold lads. Can you imagine

>>22385488
hence why they will attempt price controls too.

Not that any of it will work of course, all it will do is send a strong signal to anyone with a brain that things are about to accelerate


>>22385554
the big block erasures are what I use, they are super soft with no grit unlike the ones actually on pencils/mechanical pencils.

And I agree, most high premium rounds will never, ever, recover that premium.

FORMERLY
WELL
TO
DO

Look like the Navada Goldback just got dropped:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=302s&v=zZ6SqfCSR40

>>22385488
They're not going to call it UBI. It'll be labelled some sort of "corona virus relief" measure that everyone who is unemployed can take advantage of, but for employed people they'll only be able to make something like 1k a month before they're ineligable for the benefit, quitting would also disqualify you. That's how they keep you wagies in your cagies.

>>22385745
lol our dimes are steel plated.

>>22385727
I'm interested in those 12.5kg ingots. They look the part.

Does anyone have an opinion on Avino silver and gold mines?

>>22385488
Oh really? Then lets have UBI. Stacklets like us will prosper.

>>22384959
Weight.
I have 1oz of gold for every 13 oz of silver.

>>22385746
>price controls

I heard that there are a bunch of price gouging lawsuits in the works for egg prices. WTF do they think will happen if they price control? It will cause widespread shortages which will be more demoralizing than having the prices raise naturally.

>>22385769
They can only push the wagies so far. Unemployed people making more than their employed former coworkers seriously pissed people off.

>>22383317
January, you fool

>>22384448
>Brace
>Eokek
>That tiny flashlight

>>22385876
what SLV calls should I be making specifically

>>22384147
Yeah, that's what I was saying about 2009 being targeted bailouts, versus today it is more spread out. I'm not saying today isn't ugly, I'm just saying that as time goes on the clown world builds more and more extreme - and that doesn't tell us that the end is here. We may kick the problem down the road for another decade. If that happens, then we might be overpaying for PMs for a while. That's why you just buy a certain amount each year just like you would any other investment strategy - be it index funds or corp bonds or whatever.

>>22384585
>>22384878
/k/ has stroke off competitions over muzzle velocities and whatever, but fact of the matter is that would do just fine in the race war. Someone the other day was shitting on a guy with a wheel gun .45ACP. Pretty sure that would do just fine killing a savage.

>>22384878
>20 percent
Yeah nah try 40.

McEwin spiked to almost 1.40 where I bought it. Nice. Thats like a 16 cent jump

I passed by my bank and I noticed that they are now offering E-Certificates for Gold and Silver. I do own some physical PMs but I'm curious if its a good investment.

What does PMG think?

>>22385850
this is a time of inverted values, they will do everything "for our safety" "to make things better" and all it will do is endanger everyone and make things worse.

This is why you dont go FIAT or command economy like we have... and of course we have retards who think they are smart cheering this all along every step of the way.

>>22385900
it's called a stock anon... not a brace, it's a laser, not a flashlight, and what could you possibly have against an eotech other then the fact its not a slightly better/smaller optic?

>>22386032
If you don't have it physically, you don't have it anon. You're not even sure they own real silver

Why does no one talk about MTA, they are literally buying properties adjacent to Franco Nevada. They seem solid.

Also, anyone own Bayhorse or have an opinion on it? I'm trying to decide whether to throw 1k at it.

>>22385876
Are you not seeing the wedge completing? The FOMC meeting is next week

>>22386035
>what do you have against eotech?
It's not a holosun, that's what.

>>22385754
Why would anybody buy these?

>>22386035
>and of course we have retards who think they are smart cheering this all along every step of the way.

Ironically, besides the direct beneficiaries of the money printers, it's us who stand the most to benefit from clown economics. But I'm sure, given the chance, most of us would choose a healthy economy over being PM chads in the United States of Brazil.

>>22386032
Paper pms are not backed by anything.

It's just debt based on imaginary metal like fiat used to be. Stick to physical, anon.

>>22385996
You are retarded, going from a 20" barrel to an 8 is only a ~25% reduction and all the testing confirms this. Still outperforms any PCC there is which is the whole point.

I wouldn't expect someone who cant tell the difference between a laser/flashlight, or a brace/CCS stock to know anything though, Im sure you are still learning.

>>22386174
>shits on eotech for some reason
>posts meme showing why trijicon is overpriced garbage

What did he mean by this?

>>22386226
Yes... it is absolute madness, I would much rather live in a sane world where wanting a wholesome family life didnt make me some sore of radical.

>>22384792
My personal stacking ratio is 1:500

reannouncing the preorder for 2021 queens beast set is now live. monument metals for US

My LCS is selling somewhat damaged coins (spots, scratches etc.) for $2013/oz. Is that a good deal?

>>22386029
isnt McEwin's CEO a bad one ? Thats what i read

>>22386467
kinda? im sure they would be willing to haggle to 2k even

>>22384767
Based anon.

>AUNFF +5.26%
>GPL +2.19%
What the fucked happened /pmg/ my stocks are going up?
Are they supposed to do that?

top 3 miner holdings?
mine:
>hecla
>bayhorse
>skeena

>>22385918
I was one of the /k/ommandos who commented on the .45 wheelie because I had never seen one before. I have no doubt it would kill a peaceful protestor dead, but the loss of muzzle velocity on an already notoriously slow round has me questioning if it is worth it.

Also, the guy's momma bought it for him for his 16th birthday which gives him a free pass. What a badass mother.

>>22386092

Gave the case for BHS in another thread, I'll just repeat the post:

1) Bayhorse Silver provides you with a 100%-controlled real working silver mine, in a safe jurisdiction (Oregon), at a ridiculously cheap market-cap of only $20 million. (Compare this with the $3 billion market cap of First Majestic, or the market-caps of many explorers which are 10x higher, but don't even have a mine yet.)

2) The CEO of Bayhorse owns a large number of the shares himself, and passionately believes in the project.

3) He spent $7 million in getting the mine to work, via a creative use of technology, as against the $20-30 million which would ordinarily have been expected. He is very careful with money.

4) He has been interviewed by silver bulls like David Morgan, and is trusted in the silver community.

5) There are 4 PhD geologists working on the project.

6) We know of at least 6.4 million ounces in reserve, but this number is based on outdated information, and is likely to be substantially higher; at least double.

7) Besides the Bayhorse property in Oregon, BHS has a second property called Brandywine with considerable exploration potential. Ten diamond drill holes are planned there. Visible gold was found in Brandywine samples taken in 2019.

>>22386555
Aunff was up almost 10% when i sold this AM

Yeah its gonna happen anon, probably have some pull backs but the train is leaving the station

>>22386474
I have no clue. It was shilled so much I ended up buying it. Its been down a lot but its climbing back a lot.

>>22386379
>Eotechs have shit battery life
>Big QC issues with green reticle version
>Parent company L3 donates to Dems
That's why.

sup anons!

if you missed last nights' threads - i started a store oldsilver.ru with nazi/ussr/russian empire stuff, and since the payment for now is done through crypto only, the general pushback is quite understandable.
but 3 anons placed their orders anyway, and in order to celebrate this great occasion i'll be giving away 5 silver coins tonight (midnight here).
i've thought how to better do the raffle and the most logical solution is this - get a throwaway email and subscribe to newsletter on oldsilver.ru
in around 5-6 hours i'll use some random picker thing to pick 5 winners, and email them for shipping info afterwards.
coins will all be different including a picrelated one

feel free to unsubscribe afterwards.
yes, you could use multiple email accounts, but you wouldn't be such a faggot, would you?

>>22386500
They are selling philarmonikers and similar stuff for ~$2200. I live in a 3rd world country, so it's hard to find anything cheaper.
I was just wondering if a weird spot really diminish the price.

>>22386092
what happenned there ?

>>22385918
I was one of the /k/ommandos who commented on the .45 wheelie because I had never seen one before. I have no doubt it would kill a peaceful protestor dead, but the loss of muzzle velocity on an already notoriously slow round has me questioning if it is worth it.

Also, the guy's momma bought it for him for his 16th birthday which gives him a free pass. What a badass mother.

Aurcana to 10$ when?

>>22386880
soon I hope

>>22386746
closer to spot the better

AURCANAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

>>22386393
No platinum?

>>22386924
>>22386880
is it a top tier one among the junior ? a lot of shill

>>22385376
That's literally what I did with my all my Corona bucks.

>>22386032
i'm only slightly exaggerating when i say every bank that has done this has been caught scamming the people who bought in.

>>22386393
That's more like it, I'm around 1:1000. Always been my absolute favorite metal.

Any of you fellas get suckered into these Envela 10 ounce meme bars? I about coomed when I saw the first coronachan bars on eBay in April, bought a dozen at under 19/oz before they started charging more for them than their other bars. Seems like the May "essential workers" bars are going for the highest premiums currently. The series actually seemed pretty legit, not contrived like the subsequent copycat private corona bars and is the only memeshit I've bought this year.

>>22386032

Don't buy gold with a bank. It's a scam. The gold is "unallocated," meaning that you hold a claim on the bank, not on the bullion itself. They will pay you in worthless paper when the system collapses. GLD and SLV function in the same manner.

To purchase allocated or segregated bullion, which you actually possess as your own private property, outside the banking system, all these services are better: GoldMoney, BullionVault, OneGold, GoldSwitzerland, Sprott's PHYS and PSLV, Andrew Maguire's Kinesis.

>>22386924
How to even sell it when it moons 10x ? I mean it it is a OTC stock at least in De Giro

>>22386035
show stamp

>>22386940
It is shilled because its a top pick anon.

>>22386756
Stock split I believe.

>>22387154
Is it profitable now?

>>22386650
What broker do I even use to buy this? Cant on Vanguard, webull or RH.

>>22387662
dunno?

>>22387718

Anything which gives you access to the Toronto Stock Exchange in Canada. International Brokers and Charles Schwab are two examples. Somebody here mentioned they use DeGiro. You can also buy it there OTC in Frankfurt.

>>22387718
Schwab

If digits, silver hits $23 EOW

>>22386686
>>22387138

Holy fuck you are the most pedantic fuckers who only post when you see something that tweaks your autism.

I even fore ran this with no reason to hate on eotech other then there are slightly better optics...

If you hate on them because some umbrella company is leftist politically, but then promote holosun made in china stuff it just makes you look stupid... I have both and they both work just fine.

Here is some 14.5" chink shit and pictures of your queen to further set off your autism.

>>22387793
>>22387788
Thanks guys

thoughts on Yamada bros?

>>22387919
>>22387788
Dont know if I will invest into it since I dont even know the cap, dont know if I will be able to sell.

>>22386955
Same

>>22387994
That turns me on

>>22387777
>can't make money with silver at nearly 30 bucks spot
lol

>someone shills a stock
>It's a Canadian stock without a NYSE
ticker

>>22386955
This guy gets it

>>22388198
Most of the good miners are based out of canada but operate in many jurisdictions.

What kind of broker doesn't carry TSX and NYSE?

aurcana is on both if that helps,

also everyone fucking sell aurcana so the price tanks and I can re buy in at a lower price please.

>>22387920
Ree.

>>22385434
Unified Bullion Investors

>>22386650
isnt their debt high as fuck ?

>>22387133
How do I train a crow to bring me silver eagles?

>>22388334
Start a crow restaurant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWXe7Js6GnI&ab_channel=BBC

>>22383258
Hey all, thought I'd come to the smart thread of the board.
Anyone notice all the apartments being thrown up over the past few years? Seems on every corner there's a new hipster piece of shit. No occupants, no increase in the city population, but dozens and dozens of apartments (and a few hotels).
Is this just akin to the China Ghost Cities? Building crap just to build it and spend govt money to make ourselves look bigger and better?

I don't know how to buy real stocks or do calls/puts on them, only crypto. Is that Robinhood app what everyone uses to trade now? I'd prefer a website not some app. I'm doing research on these small miner funds ya'll are talking about, I want to put a bit of cash into the market besides my metal (which I only just started buying).

>>22387788
>>22387793
Oh. Thx.

Shill me some miner stocks, /pmg/.

>>22383398
always be comfy

>>22388434
UN Agenda 2030, which is a milestone for Agenda 21's early stages. https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21

>Cause mass destabilization to empty the cities, dropping real estate prices
>Buy up all the real estate dirt cheap
>Turn it into pod housing
>Herd everyone back into the cities after living outside of them becomes too expensive
>Have a compliant population of pod people eating bugs and living in VR

>>22385434
Utility Boosting Immunizations

I know there are some macro lurkers on pmg so I wonder has this ever been discussed before:

>US Central Bank Digital Currency (US CBDC)
As I keep diving deeper, I'm really surprised how stealth this is. It was even included at first in the March stimulus proposal, then they took it out for some reason.

HR6321 introduced by Rep. Waters, Maxine D-CA-43. Check this out:
>TITLE 1 SEC. 101. DIRECT STIMULUS PAYMENTS FOR FAMILIES
So pic is related and direct source is below. Basically, a Fed crypto was proposed to send gibs to plebs. It gets intersting under (5) FUNDING:
>The Secretary of the Treasury shall, before each monthly payment required under subsection (a), notify the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the aggregate amount of such payment, and the Board of Governors shall issue notes in such amount and transfer such notes to the Secretary of the Treasury for use in making such payments.

This is now literally the definition of printing money. I have been skeptical on the PM case because QE prints bank reserves which actually relate to lower inflation levels. This is a game changer and something we really need to watch

The bill:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6321/text

>>22388685
Very bullish PMs now. Any digital currency will weimar faster than printed money.

>>22388685
This sounds like an attempt to keep the lower classes placated with a few dollars to prevent massive riots while the economy completely melts down. Or am i off base?

>>22388685
I've seen the bill talked about here quite a lot, but never into the detail that mentions the helicopter money being sent directly from Fed -> Parasite

I hope it gets put back in to another bill and passed so this rotten system can come down faster down faster

>>22388578
What if we just buy up the property before they do?

>>22383258
Another day another sad silver performance

>>22388578

>>22388685
There is more,

On June 11th, there was another congress meeting
>Task Force on Financial Technology: Inclusive Banking During a Pandemic: Using FedAccounts and Digital Tools to Improve Delivery of Stimulus Payments
Here it was suggested that FedCoins and FedAccounts can be interest-bearing. Subtly suggesting that they can bear NEGATIVE interest if this were deemed necessary for monetary policy, which in todays' circumstances would certainly be implemented. The balance in your account would be losing value over time, incentivizing you to consoom.

Witness source:
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110778/witnesses/HHRG-116-BA00-Wstate-GiancarloJ-20200611.pdf

>>22388777
No that's basically the game plan

>>22388804
Then you'll be sitting on a piece of property that can't be used for anything that just leeches cash out if your wallet for tax payments. You have to keep in mind the cities in which this is occurring first have already released many prisoners onto the streets and set bail requirements to $0.

>>22388578
What's the point of having so many economically non-viable people? Prestige?

>>22388826
consolidating man
see you at the top

>>22388846
Part of the dystopian nightmare we're living through.

>Better spend those thousand FedBux before the end of the month otherwise they evaporate
>Get a fresh set of FedBux on the first
>No saving
>No economic mobility
>Just eternal underclass with the eternal overclass into perpetuity

>>22388915
slavery

Was checking Yamana gold then
>Yamana Gold is a Canadian gold producer with significant gold production, gold and copper-gold development stage properties, exploration properties and land positions in all major mineral areas in Brazil.
Fucking Gold AND Copper, both of these shit are going to soar, anyone know more about this stock ?

>>22388846
>inb4 the rest of /biz/ starts pumping FedCoin

>>22388872
So buy the property when there is "blood in the streets", wait a few years till the pod people come in and either sell your soul to them or start an anti-pod business.

>>22388915
>economically non-viable people

Best place to hide is in plain sight.

>>22388777
>>22388777
There is a huge difference to what is happening now.

At present, QE depends on the commercial banking system to do the actual money printing. Current QE effort is destroying money. Current Fiscal spending (i.e. stimulus) is not coming from printed money, but rather from debt issuance which eventually comes from taxes, so no direct inflation of the money supply happens.

Hard to explain but basically this US CBDC proposal will allow direct money printing without relying on commercial banks as intermediaries.

Look through the PDF from >>22388846 and on page 22 it gets into how they plan to do this without pissing off the bankers.

>>22388915
Who knows? Sacrifices, a class to rule over, a resource to harvest, a crop to pull the cream from in the future... I'm not privy to the machinations of the elite. At this point, chalking all the shit going on in the world up to serendipitous stupidity on the part of those who govern us is indistinguishable from what it would look like if they were intentionally moving us toward that dystopian nightmare future.

>>22389048
If you can afford it, sure!

>>22386880
all my miners taking a beating today except one, it's a comfy feeling knowing Aurcanama is always looking out for me

>>22389095
Good stuff. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, hadn't heard of this proposal.

What the fuck do they even mean by account limits?

>>22383258
Any of these dealers let you pick between junk dimes and quarters?

>>22385313
>doling out goy bux for more precious metals
I see no harm in the short term
Gentlemen, we shall be kings on the other side

>>22385488
Meh, fuck it. Let them fuck up the economy and the US Fraud Note.
There's no stopping this ride!!!

>pre-ordered the 2021 QB
>3 of them at todays ATH
>price drops
as one does, anyone picking anything cool up soon? i have a 10 oz falcon on the way too

>>22386732
>oldsilver.ru
hey based Russian anon. Uk anon here form last night. How do we subscribe? Just shoot you an email or do we need to sign up?

Also are those 1KG Putin/Crimea coins easy to get hold of? I like the look of them.

>>22389303
Most have options for your junk coin of choice.
Bennies
Kennies
Barbers
Jeffies
Aizens
Rosies
Warshingtons
Blowjobs

>>22386032
>more derivatives on the real thing
IF YOU DON'T HOLD IT, YOU DON'T OWN IT

>>22389438
go to oldsilver.ru scroll down subscribe, that's it
so far there are 0 subscriptions lol so your chances are pretty good

>>22389321
Oh for sure, smart people will use it to buy hard assets, most will spend it on stupid shit like funko pops.

They will then blame the middle class/upper middle class and continue to accuse them of not paying enough taxes, despite paying little/no tax themselves.

D+C

>>22389450
Make mine Walkies

>>22389438
silver ones? there are on the market, yes
1KG gold coins are easier to get though, lol, even if only 50 of them are minted each year

Any other anons here held Turquoise Hill Resources? Apparently they're going to sell more shares, or at least it's likely. Maybe get out now and come back in post-dilution.

first majestic silver halted!!!

>>22385754
I assume this is from the same company that was making Utah Goldbacks? Why is their Libertas vaguely asian?

>>22389555
WHAT

>>22389428
Got some 2oz queens beasts and some meme coins for my kid with the money I made off aurcana.

Also anons, seriously, dump aurcana, take profits and buy back in when its cheaper after we dump it.

I expect the FED news and european news to be more BRRRRR, so that may boost stonks enough to ease fears again.

Any europeans able to comment of if they think euro is going to BRRRR or not?

HOLY SHIT
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/first-majestic-announces-cdn-78-million-bought-deal-investment-by-billionaire-eric-sprott-815926382.html

>>22389259
Imagine if we get UBI in a FedAccount with negative interest and an upper limit of say $5000. If you try to save any of your FedCoins instead of spend them to consoom, you will stop getting UBI. Just one of the many benefits of US CBDC!

A good article about the topic, from September 2019, making me think that COVID really was a hoax for global monetary reset.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-coming-recession-could-force-the-federal-reserve-to-swap-greenbacks-for-digital-dollars-2019-09-06

>>22389486
Can you literally buy fucking booze on EBT?

>>22389635
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>>22389642

>>22389635
>/NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION TOUNITED STATESNEWS WIRE SERVICES OR FOR DISSEMINATION INTHE UNITED STATES/

Oh, ok. I'll just stop reading right there, then.

>>22389635
AHHHHHH THE HAPPENINGS
THERE ARE SO MANY !!!!
PLS HOLD FREN

>>22389668
"we take EBT" signs are basically "we will give you 70 cents on the dollar so you can buy drugs with EBT" signs....

This is somewhat of an open secret, much like these bodegas selling individual smokes. Almost all of "dem programz" are like this

>>22389635
in b4 PMs moon and Sprott gets the Hunt Brothers treatment

>>22389635
so? you think this will blow the price up or what? FM is already trading high... shill me friendo

>>22386732
Alright russianon. Pls don't send men in tracksuits to my address if I am picked.

>>22386449
>>22389428
Are the QB worth it?

>>22388578
UN and IMF are just American Devils.

>>22388915
Rules of the galactic federation are that you have to get to 1.5 billion members of an ape descended species before they contact select leaders, then you have to get to 10 billion before they make public contact and give you FTL travel.

The problem is that this is a deliberate n00b trap on their part to get shitty species to die off because they always just feed their dumbest sub populations and let them breed to infinity in the hopes that it'll get them into the club. It always ends up collapsing and keeping that species from getting off-world because they used their peak industrial era to propagate the spic-nig cycle on their world to get FTL gibs, rather than develop FTL themselves.

>>22389635
Holy shit im so glad i bought calls because of this article last week.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/implied-volatility-surging-first-majestic-130001095.html

>>22389840
i have 3 entire sets, this is the finale. their premiums are probably not worth it to collect the older ones now

>>22389821
no worries, fren. i am here to earn my trust one anon at a time.

>>22389907
Queen will die soon, when the metal prices moon (not if, when) these full sets will be worth quite a nice little fortune. It's more than just metal, it's a piece of British heritage in it's pure form.

>>22390044
There is no such thing as "British Heritage," bigot.

>>22390044
I hope your digits are right. I intend to keep the boxed set in my family for a long time

>>22390044
>>22390195
4 is death. The UK will break apart over the next 20 or so years. WW2 was a real fuck up for the winners.

>>22390195
Based, gotta order that box one day.

>>22389896
S...Supercomputer, is that you?

Truth is, your story makes as much sense as any other explanation.

>>22389790
sell the news. Price will go down, possible retrace to resistance at 11. Good buy zone anywhere between 11-11.25. Might take a couple days, keep an eye out.

>>22390267
shame we ended up being the bad guys

>>22390275
thanks, i got that one for like 110 on apmex, and the .25 gold box for 80 on bold metals

>>22390333
Nice digits but no. I'm here.

>>22386732
based!
Are you really in Haхoдкa?
Do you have a physical store location that we can visit when the RF border opens up?

I don't trust пoчтa poccии in the slightest with delivery. I honestly think you will have a lot of problems with shipping.

>>22385554

It's funny watching boomers get ripped off by buying $50 silver eagles and then realize they can only sell it back at spot

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BLACK
BULL
OF
CLARENCE

>>22390751
>stock market goes up
>silver and miners goes down
>stock market goes down
>silver and miners goes down
What's not to like?

>>22389686
That day is when we respec as hero class in minecraft.

>>22391058
plus we can always cuddle our bullion

>>22391224
I've been handling mine with a cotton condom. One day I want to raw dog fondle my silver and gold.

>>22391058

>>22391284
i have a 2020 leaf i fondle aggressively, everything else gets a capsule

>>22391224
What's with the vertical lines? My leaf has them and it's pronounced. Saw marks?

>>22391284
Just touch them, fool. I touch all my gold regularly. I don't open my tubes but I get singles of any round or coin I want and fondle the hell out of them. The tarnish makes them look cooler.

alright, boys, shilling this FREE GIVEAWAY for the last time. 5 anons will get a free silver coin (nazi w/ a swastika or ussr stuff)

only two anons joined, so there are potentially 3 more silver coins waiting for their new owners. there's no catch, just want to farm some street cred around here + to celebrate the glorious occasion of getting first customers.

oldsilver.ru scroll down, subscribe, confirm email afterwards
for now russian post doesn't have working routes with the following countries (https://www.pochta.ru/no-mail-exchange/):
australia and NZ, all south america, all middle east, all africa (kek)
so anything else is fine
after a few hours 5 random winners will be selected.

feel free to unsubscribe afterwards. i don't need your physical addresses either for whatever evil purpose, you can use a p/o box or some shipping forwarding service or whatever.
all coins are shipped in unmarked envelopes w/o value declaration, so you won't get IRS-ed. tracking will be provided. average waiting time ranges from 4 days to a few weeks, depending on the destination.

saint kek be praised!

>>22391534
big if true

>>22389682

Holy fuck I have October $12 calls on first majestic ? Am I about to wake up rich tomorrow bros?

>>22391534
kek, great price

>>22391685

I remember people complaining that it was bad advice when we told them to buy calls on First Majestic, not on SLV.

>>22391534
>>22391534
Are you really gonna trust pochtaru with this?
Bagscan bydlo at VVO opened my suitcase to steal a bag of literally just kopeks. What happens when they find a package of big dick silver?
t.
>>22390416

>>22391534
Alright anon, I'm in.

>>22391753
some of the item descriptions and about us descriptions are funny too

>>22391534
I subscribed anon.

Are there many 1kg silver coins from Russia? How much do you think the Putin/Crimea one would cost?

>>22391534
wew rolling for nazi silver

>>22383490
fuck milk spots, you got silver Anonbro

>>22391787
VVO is one thing, it's an airport, envelopes are whatever, there are too many of them to scan them all.
cool that you've been in my region, really surprised.

>>22390416
i am in a small town next to it (vrangel, picrelated), it's around 20kms. there is not physical location, but we could arrange a meeting (to rob you)

>>22391833
there are hundreds of designs, literally.
let me look up the putin one

>>22391301
>>22391383
I should probably get some dedicated fondle coins, at least a silver one. Gold I'm not so worried about finger fucking since it doesn't tarnish.

>>22384152
Based.

>>22391924

>>22391534
have yesterday's orders gone out yet friend?

>>22391833
it costs ~8k
only 25 minted
original price when it came out was 1 million RUB, so around 15k

>>22391960
yesterday's orders are going out in a few hours, mom was busy yesterday afternoon

>>22392015
holy shit

>>22384792
allthegoldyoucan:allthesilveryoucan

>>22389668
Take the ebt and buy a jug of tide. Drug dealers in the hood will take tide as payment for drugs... It's true

>>22386182
who wouldnt? its cheap gold

>>22390416
tell me, how are all these drugs are coming through?
darknet is rolling in dosh, no post service can handle the amount of shipments with everyone shopping online
even if they scan it, it has some round metal, so what? it could be some souvenir coins from copper-nickel, none if matters
plus i checked - pochta allows shipping of PMs, it doesn't allow raw metal being shipped, but coins/some crafts are fine

if one of the orders gets pulled, i'll reship for free
so no, i have no worries about it

>>22392191
it really isn't, the premium is retarded high

>>22383960
the original is better

>>22391924
Separation of church and state is in the constitution. If you want children to know religion no one is stopping you from teaching it to your kids yourself.

>>22391833
these are your regular 1KG Ag coins, we have so so many. 100 RUB Ag coins are 1KG, and we mint new ones every year, every occasion.
the cheapest ones (on that website) are on the screenshot.
cheapest lot is 64k RUB = 849 USD, which is below spot, kek

there is soo much stuff below spot, guys, you just have no idea

>>22384863
And what if it takes another 20 years. If not you, your children will have their lives secured and you can live the boomer dream

>>22391534
>buy vodka
>receive silver
That is so cool
there is a lot of cool stuff on that site, will probably order some when I get some extra money.
Thanks anon

>>22392635
thank you for the kind words, fren. means a lot.

>>22392191
>>22386182
The premium is high due to the cost of manufacturing them. They are meant for a very niche market and not necessarily to get exposure to gold (although it still does, the premiums sort of overshadow that). They are really meant to be used as an alternative currency to fiat and not meant as an investment. When you factor that into it, the premiums sort of make sense

>>22389635

>>22392357
The state shouldn't be in charge of schools in the first place.

>>22390334
Ok that is kind of what I thought... I absolutely LOVE FM as a company, I just think their share price is already pretty high.

>>22393075

true if big

So are we going to see a collapse in the market and in PMs now that second round of stimulus is probably not going to happen? DC is really fucking us.

>>22393233

What the fuck are you smoking?

Their price is right around where it was at at the beginning of the year, when silver was $18.

They are undervalued, because of their rough q2 numbers due to the covid shutdown. They have been unloading their silver backstock ever since silver hit $25. Their Q3 numbers are going to be fucking FIRE! This is why I bought calls. This sprott thing is going to revalue this fucker to over $20 by October.

Watch

>>22393303

You must be new here if you believe that congress won't do a stimulus.

When deflation kicks in congress will be forced to agree to the democrats $Trillion plan.

The govt needs to stimulate, because a deflationary crash is more painful than an inflationary money devaluation.

>>22393303
>>22393407
Congress will do more stimulus. But they're playing chicken with the election and won't pass any more stimulus until normies are turning into pink wojacks.

Senate democrats rejected the republican stimulus bill today. Get ready for more Big Red Candles.

>>22393505

Stimulus will happen before october.

until then buy puts on TSLA

>>22393330
Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking them, and I do expect them to go higher, but they are only 4-5$ lower then the 2011 bull run days.

When companies do millions of share sales at a set price I have noticed this actually suppresses the price sometimes... if they hit 11-12$ a share I am def going to throw some cash their way though for a shorter term play.

>>22384152
Based. This is our age brothers

>>22393407
>>22393505
>>22393609

>>22393609
Without helicopter money the dreaded deflation will show its ugly head. I just wish they would end it and start the UBI that everyone knows will have to happen to keep this crooked system afloat and keep their heads safe from pikes.

>>22393674

Neither party will be saying that after a 25% drop in the markets

>>22393303
The BRRRRR must flow

>>22393681

Agree that deflation will show it's head, however PM's will crab slightly downward or go up in value. People will liquidate stocks, but not PM's or PM stocks.

STONKS could drop 20%+ by end of next week

>>22393674
They don't really mean that... stocks will tank 30% by the election without more stimulus.

>>22393075
Uh... if this is true silver will go to $1000/ounce
That would be gov admitting Silver is a strategic metal with very low supply

guys so if i were to pay 50.00 for 1 morgan dollar and 10 merc dimes,would that be a good deal or a rip off

>>22393779

silver will go to $1000 per oz

maybe even within 24 months

>>22393797
at spot price 27 dollars

>>22393712

>>22393797
Average deal, you should buy

>>22393797
seems like a good deal
1 merc dime is 2.5g with 90% silver, so 10 dimes asw = 0.723oz
so ase + this is 1.72oz = 46 dolllars melt value
but ase has high premium + fractional silver is a good idea for dem blowjobs later

>>22393797
thats pretty decent especially if your only other option is online

>>22393773
that roo gets me every time


Interesting times, this could tank the whole market, I think a lot of people were depending on another check.

>>22393779
That is unless JPM is manipulating the spot at the behest of the US government.
In which case never expect the price to change.

>>22391534
Fuckit, I'm in. Would like .su coin if a winner.

>>22391534
Fine I'm in.

>>22393889
They obviously do, the recent events and comex shitfest is a proof. Under-the-table metal deals and knocking the price down with paper, the miners get shit, the rich get all the metal. Best thing we can do is accumulate at these cheap prices with them. The only problem would be if they plan to do that for more than 50 years, eventually the price discovery would have to kick in. I just want to still be alive when that happens.

>>22391534
>oldsilver.ru
im not going to be vanned am i anon?

>>22393966
Right now the low price does not allow for silver recovery to really be profitable. So all that silver that goes in to technology just disappears.
From what I understand silver mines are not that plentiful most of the silver being a byproduct of other mining activity and the amount of silver being mined is not that large.
Sooner or alter what is underground will not be sufficient and the above ground demand will require recycling.
The price will be forced to increase but like you I just hope its before I die.

>>22394040
use a p/o box, fren. but in the end there is only one way to find out.

>>22394061
do i have to pay for p/o box? im kinda straped for cash at the moment

>>22386474
Man some of you guys are straight retarded. Stop buying shit because people shill them. You're probably going to be extremely late to the trade, and you might buy some absolute dogs. We're extremely lucky at pmg that all the retarded shills and pumpers for terrible companies are called out but the mentality of buying what's shilled and not doing your own homework will ruin you soon enough.

And Rob McEwen is one of the greatest mining CEOs of all time. Their properties and financials honestly suck and the whole proposition is a bet on Rob who takes no salary and who has an extremely high share entry price. You couldn't have been more wrong.

>>22394095
you don't have to use, it was just a suggestion. but yes, you pay for it. at least you do in russia, i registered one for the store return address reason, 200 RUB/mo, which is less than 3$

>>22394095
Don't be a shithouse lad. Just give some Russian fella you've never met your address. That's what I did.

>>22394171
>Just give some Russian fella you've never met your address
are you being serious?

>>22393303
>>22393407
>>22393505
>>22393681
Stimulus and UBI will be deflationary until this:>>22388685 >>22388846 is implemented.

Basically we should expect another dip. At that point you should absolutely go long. Be aware because this FedAccount bullshit is sneaking by completely under the radar.

>>22394143
200 a year for me

>>22386474
naw MUX is fine. They are opening up operations basically right now, no reason to not expect them to at least go back to pre covid levels of 2-3$, and I expect they will go higher due to rising PM prices.

>>22394095
You can't get in any legal trouble for people trying to mail you stuff.
He could send you a kilo of heroin and if they intercept the package you just get a nasty letter.
No one cares and if they don't catch the package hey you get the heroin.
Now why is some russian guy sending you good heroin instead of coins I have no fucking clue.

>>22394201
Yes. If you've ever bought off ebay or a site like that then they know your address, and you've never met them either, nor do you know anything about them but a username.

New
>>22394263
>>22394263