/biz/ - Business & Finance

First time bake, how do?

>IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING

At what oz for gold/silver do you achieve dragon status? I need a goal.

>>22289742
Breddy gud

>>22289768
5k ounces silver or equivalent in gold at 80:1

Damn post office taking too long with my order
I have
> two aztec calendars
> Five Quokkas
> Five kookaburras 2020
> Like six different one oz designs
Still waiting bros.

>>22289720
As a Canadian I had no idea until recently that our gold and silver bullion is prized for its purity. I even visited one of our mints as a kid. Might go buy some tomorrow just to have some.

>>22289844
>Aztec calendars
If gold very based
If silver somewhat based
Sophisticated taste though

currently 55/4000 oz
how get 3945 more oz of silver? thx

Posting pics of my stack before I got to sleep.

>>22289720
>17000oz of silver

a-am i gonna make it

I think i'm done for now, g' night pmg.

>>22289899
Whats your address haha

>>22289910
What are those coins in the middle?

>>22289867
Stacking silver right now. Will do gold if there's a dip

>>22289859
Royal Canadian Mint is perhaps unironically the most BASED institution Leafs have ever created

>four nines fine everything, your silver leafs are medical grade fineness and can be used to make surgical instruments or space shuttle components without any refinement
>superior anti-counterfeiting features compared to most other PM coins
>no bullshit slowdowns like the US mint to push prices up, generously keeping the market well stocked with cheap leafs
>looks pretty great too I have to say

Keep it up faggots

>>22289884
You anime posters will never know the pain of not being able to obtain a figure of your waifu

>>22289720
/pmg/ topping post/hour on /biz/
Fiat is done isn’t it bros?

how many of you wear silver jewelry? I used to only wear gold, but honestly silver is so muted and nice, it's very casual. I kind of like it.

>>22289970
I have a friend who works with plastics and such, would you actually buy a figurine if he made one?

>>22289946
I mean for me personally I can't get the Aztec coin knowing they used a lot more gold than silver
They didn't use currency though so it doesn't really matter

Hey guys look at all this (say it with me now)
N A T U R A L
M A R K E T
B E H A V I O R

Little bit offtopic but:
Do you anons really bet agains USA and banking elites in this global turmoil? Isn't it obvious they will always be on top and fuck everyone over, China being their prime objective? From my point of view USA is forcing China's hand on debt, making them sell dollars. Once China is all out fed will do some 360 no scope bullshit hack and reset dollar forcing China to buy dollars again at worse prices while Japan will be rewarded for buying usa bags in the process.

I can't see how banking elites ruling this shit-planet won't floss dance on rekt chinese economy in couple years.

>>22289742
i feel personally attacked
i want the krakens

>>22290327
disgusting chink

>>22289720
Hi again /pmg/, >>22282551 here from previous thread. Thank you to all you helpful anons again. I was just looking at a checkout at EuropeanMint and was left wondering what the shipment options actually mean in practice. I'm kind of confused.

The upper option would cost me 55€ but the shipping would be quick and insured. But the lower option would have entirely free shipping. However it also says it has "6 months free storage in Estonia". Does that mean I have to wait 6 months until I get my silver? Or does it just mean I may keep the silver stored at Estonia for half a year or ask them to deliver it immediately? I would like to have the silver to myself of course but I'm wondering about these options and would like somebody with some experience to guide me a little once again. Thank you in advance.

>>22290442
The krakens are amazing; they look and feel great. it’s my favourite one to fondle with, get some if you can get your hands on them!

>>22290555
You either have it shipped right away or you have it stored so you can add more to your stack there before shipping. For VAT free silver you have to give the order to pick it up. You might also have the option to pick it up yourself if you are from around. I found the price difference between for example goldsilver.be and europeanmint in many cases outweighed the shipping cost. Use http://eu.compare.pm to see the price difference by filling in the desired amount into the top bar

yes leave your silver in Estonia, we will take care of it. Be a good goy.

Thoughts on ship wreck silver?

Think they're 90% silver, but I just really like the chopmarks and history knowing it went around the World centuries ago

>>22289844
5 quokka? i only managed to get my hands on 1 and it was one of the under the table ones they were keeping in an emergency in case they messed an order up. Good score.

>The inexplicable mini-dump right at 2:00 am on a monday (on a holiday weekend no less) that somehow ends right on nice even numbers (26.80 for silver, 1930 for gold)

It's nice to know that even in the New Normal™ JP Morgan is keeping our valued traditions alive.

Best Canadian online retailers?

>>22289859
>>22289953
Canadian Mint products are based but the mint itself is cucked. I walked into the mint headquarters shop in Ottawa and asked to buy some Silver leafs... The clerk was confused and said they didn't have any, I'd have to go to a bank or exchange. All they had are dumb little 1/4 once Silver "collectible" coins that they sell for $50, then i realized it's actually just a giftshop designed to ripoff boomers and tourists.
Also there was the employee that was smuggling gold out up his asshole for years, only got caught because he was selling it to a nearby pawnshop lol.

>>22290665
>You either have it shipped right away or you have it stored so you can add more to your stack there before shipping. For VAT free silver you have to give the order to pick it up.
Does this mean I could just pick the storing option and then immediately order them to ship the coins? (Not that it matters it seems, as goldsilver has the option for immediate delivery) Thank you for the goldsilver recommendation, that price is much better actually

Also does the shipping go to my doorstep or post office? I would rather go pick it up somewhere close because of my changing schedule and previous bad experiences with deliveries.

Got myself a coin of each of the most popular rounds (at least in EU) last week to see what I should stack from now on. Here my thoughts on them.

- Kangaroo's: Probably the best pick budget wise; It's often the cheapest option for new silver in the EU and it's a great 9999 quality round. It has a laser etched security feature and It looks okay-ish, not as good as a Maple and not as bad as a Kruger. They come in good sealed tubes.

- Maple leafs: More expensive as the roo's, but they look nicer, more details and some shine. Also in 9999 silver and with a security feature. The currently are harder to get in the EU but if you can get them for a good price it's a good pick. Not a big fan of the unsealed tubes they come in; The kruger and roo tubes are nicer.

- Britannia's - They actually look nicer IRL as on the picture. It's only 999 quality though and has no security feature like the 2 above. Might be a good pick for UK residents as a tax free coin.

- Krugerrand: Not that great looking coin imo; It seems to lack the amount of detail a Maple has for example and isn't that shiny. It is a decent 9999 quality round though.

- Philharmonikers: Expected more of the most known EU coin. Only 999 quality silver, it's the only one with smooth edges instead of ridges and the design is a bit boring imo.

- Krakens: A little bit more expensive per oz but the 2oz coins feel nice. It's a double sized Maple leaf quality wise.

- Random New Zealand Mint coins: Almost as cheap as the regular rounds but with interesting designs on them. Overal quite good but only 999 silver and less known. Maybe not great to stack but fun to have a couple.

- Random other Perth Mint coins: Amazing, really good looking, high quality coins and very close to the price of regular bullion coins. Also in 9999 silver.

My overall conclusion from this is that for the cheapest stacking in EU you need 1oz Roo's, For the highest quality coins get coins from the Canadian Mint or Perth Mint.

>>22291088
Yes, I think that would be no problem. Goldsilver.be often has the lowest premiums but their customer service apparently isn't great. My experience with them is good though, you just need to read and follow their instructions. Most parties send with UPS including Goldsilver.be; They will actually give you the option to contact them once your order is shipped to change delivery to a delivery point or you could do it yourself with a UPS account on the UPS site.

>>22291292
Alright, thank you anon. I took the plunge and made the order. I'll be sure to come back to /pmg/ in the future too. You guys are great

>>22291245
Pretty sure krugers are 999

>>22291245
>Krakens: A little bit more expensive per oz but the 2oz coins feel nice. It's a double sized Maple leaf quality wise.
Am I the only one who doesn't like 1oz silver coins?
They feel too thick. Like toy coins or chuckee cheese tokens
I want coin sized coins.
And 2oz seems like it would be even worse. Just a round bar at that point
Not like im gonna buy 1/2 oz silver though cuz that's just retarded

>>22289895
c u t e ©

>>22291511
Thanks fren, apparently I was misinformed by online coinshop

So my mom "gave" me a 1oz gold coin when i turned 18. However she never physically gave it to me, because it's always been in the safety deposit box. She won't listen and thinks I'm being paranoid schizo when I say it's not safe in the bank.

How can i get it? If i borrowed the key, would the bank give me access?

>>22291611
just show her the bail in legislation if you live in a g20 country

>>22290328
I’ve wondered this too. I think in the short term, the US is going to hit some major speed bumps, and although we won’t lose reserve currency status, the possibility of a major economic downturn is basically a certainty. I think 2024 and thereafter will be a return to better days with hopefully a new president who has sound fiscal policies and ideas to invest in infrastructure projects that are revenue-generating. The public would hopefully be on board after everyone has lost so much and kicked down to near poverty level. I’m imagining and hoping for a 21st century version of JFK

>>22290824
Damn, it's still nice to have one though. Should've got ten Quokkas then haha maybe next order. They seem to be holding back supply?

>>22290825
Very nice

>>22291730
>I think 2024 and thereafter will be a return to better days with hopefully a new president who has sound fiscal policies and ideas to invest in infrastructure projects that are revenue-generating.

oh my sweet summer child.

>>22291847
30k only. Perth mint kept 15k for online sites and to sell themselves and bullion now got 15k exclusive and sold out in a few hours. I wanted to get from Perth mint but i'm still waiting for my account approval. I had to to to the post office and show my ID and hand in a form for them to send off to the mint and its taking forever but i'm happy with 1.

>>22291996
Just checked and now the mint is out of stock. Feeling pretty comfy seeing the premiums they go for on eBay.
Yeah I had to do that too. Post office on a Friday and was approved on the Tuesday.

>>22291890
Probably the most likely scenario is they'll kick the problem down the road another decade or two. Just slowly invest in gold and silver year by year, but don't get caught up in FOMO

>>22289751
I’m gonna, priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiint!

>>22291611
1oz of gold is 2k. That's literally nothing. No one is going to break into your house for that. But they will steal your 40k car or 10k sound system or 5k laptop and on and on.

>>22291730
lmao, he doesn’t know

>>22291611
Tell her she didn't really give it to you if you can't even hold it

>>22292857
It’s motivation for him to get his own house to store it in

>>22292132
I wonder why mine is talking so long. Post office probably lost it. Took almost a month to get a cheap 10oz bar from sydney to melbourne.

Doug Casey is my waifu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LyGs0mnZg&ab_channel=Swarajya

>>22291890
>>22292840
So do you bet against the banking elites? You think China will take all their money from them?

Any fellow furries who also stack?

>>22291890
Sounds just like Obama...you dumb fuck

>>22293370

One day without the Jew York monkey hammer
and we go red over night????
Fuck this gay Earth

rip crytofags. you had a nice run

>>22293414
I'll take that as a yes?

>>22293215
You should contact them and ask. How long have you been waiting? I've been lucky but I think my luck's run out with post delays for several orders.
Or the government have seized my silver after I paid the mint. That would be clownworld

>>22293487
>22293487
I'm not a disgusting degenerate.

>>22293462
Crypto is just having a flash sale right now Sminem will defeat bog

>>22293508
Get with the times boomer, everyone is into it these days

>>22293592

>>22289867
That thing is sick. I avoid this type of stuff, would be hard to convince myself to sell it once the time came.

>>22289884
Mods are asleep post spoons.

>>22289720

>>22292505
They've already been kicking the can down the road for close to 4 decades. It's not gonna last another one

>>22294002
commies really dont like silver huh

>>22293491
Since I dropped off my form and showed my ID? Close to a week. I might call them up. I try to avoid going out unless I have to so i might call. Doesn't really matter now but it would be good to have approval for future purchases.

guys Ive scraped some money together for an absolute last buy. I have 1 ounce gold and 80 ounces silver already so what should I buy with $600?

>>22294518
Personally I'd get a quarter ounce gold but others here would suggest getting more silver to hit thee 1 oz gold to 100 oz silver ratio

>>22294518
Maybe some mining stocks? if such little capital you may as well go for something with more yield like some mining stocks.

>>22289923
Nice

>>22293370
Former fur here.

Money accepts all kinds.

>>22294518
Yeah the no brainer would just be getting more silver and if you want to get fancy with it do some research into gold stocks.

>>22294626
>>22294695
thanks for the tip, ive already got like $800 floating in some mining stocks which can go to zero for all I care. I think im set on picking up a last bit of physical with this $600

>>22294607
its so hard to decide, if you look at the GSR then silver is the obvious purchase with a trade into gold at a later date. But gold is the store of value over absolutely everything, including silver, and it's no coincidence the BIS made it a tier 1 asset again (aka risk free). and when shit really hits the fan pension funds and investors are gonna allocate a percentage of their holdings into gold for a hedge, probably not silver.

Imo both are such great buys right now and are so undervalued so I can't really go wrong buying either. might just go 50/50 but I really want to pick up a roll of ASE's

Is this coin a good buy? 2 dollars above spot. Or is there a coin I should be buying instead for my first PM buy?

>>22295074
are you going for weight or premium resale?

>>22295074
2$ over spot is a good price.

>>22294855
I'd personally see little investment with a fourth of gold. It may keep value but at the end of the day it's only $600 greenbacks with little chance of appreciating. Silver might have a chance to go higher and there was some talk about tech companies making new batteries or some shit that would use a lot of silver, also solar panels and medical applications.

Not to mention that if you would buy gold your best bang for the buck is a full ounce. I bought fractionals at the beginning of March and in hindsight paid too much. But they appreciated in value so I guess I didn't loose too much money.

>Trump is bragging about 10.6 Million Jobs Created In Just 4 Months
imagine if he used the proper word "recovered"

>>22295124
5oz silver, feel free to get a one fun piece. The rest into miners. Split 40/30/30. Gold majors, silver majors, your choice of Jr's.

>>22295156
is this metals related?

>>22295103
what is premium resale? Is there a market for collector coins? I just want to make sure my family is good in 20 years. I don't think having all my money in a robin hood account is smart.

>>22295122
Thank you. I might get a bunch.

>>22295194
That's what I would do, at least.

>>22295221
i would buy by weight then, do you have a local coin shop near you?

>>22295220
you know it is

>>22295262
then explain why

>>22295260

I live in new York city I'm sure there is a reputable shop around. Is it better to buy in person?

>>22295290
you can avoid premiums by a significant amount. depending on your budget i would buy constitutional 90% silver coins, anything above 22x face value is robbery. get some tubes of whatever you like though online as long as premium doesnt rape you

>>22293814
Seems like a perfectly good reason to get one to me

Nothing like waking up with some coffee and ordering metals. Pic related! Btw Provident has a sale on Asahi rounds atm.

>>22295328
thanks I will look into 90% coins.

>>22291520
>coinlet

>>22295280
because investors are constantly watching what the president says or does during an election year and a time of crisis in which at least 20 million people lost their jobs.

>>22290075
I wear silver rings most every day

>>22295482
>I wear rings
>everyday

>>22293240
Love doug casey

>>22295528
why is this weird?

>>22295675
Here is a doug Casey coin

>>22295194
I have a confession to make.

I never really looked into it but I don't know how to buy stocks. Mostly would invest in stuff like miners and jrs. I heard of Robinhood but don't know how I would make money off of it don't know if I would have to pay interest or tax or any of that.

>>22295796
I use schwab. RH doesn't have a good set of jrs nor micros. If you're a burger...
>pay interest
No you'll usually get interest on unused funds.
>pay tax
on dividend income, interest, and cap gains - also can be offset by losses.

>>22289867
That's way cooler in gold. I got the round and bar 1oz's in silver

>>22290328
I mean they will. I'm hoping for flossing on the Jewbuxx bankers after the newbuxx switcheroo.

>>22291520
LMAO I think one ounces are small.
Roll two 5 ounce buttons around in your hand it's heaven.


2 oz I ideal

>>22291520
Low test beta cuck.

>>22291520
I actually agree. 1/2 oz would probably feel the best in terms of physical size.

Mornin boys, I am having my morning coffee than heading out, watching old Gold Trails and Ghost towns again to get me in the mood for looking in shit weather again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcf-GAT-z8g The bit about the I.X.L has my interest for sure....

>>22291611
The bank won't even let me deposit money in to my wife's account because it is not a joint account so I fucking doubt it bud

>>22296306
>Three Lost Mines
comfy stuff, Pan Man
I just found this snip from a year ago, is this Aussie bullshitting about blast hole rigs? Crazy to think there could be that kind of down time but I don't work that field so I dunno

>>22296513
I am not from australia but I wouldnt be surprised if thats sort of true, I mean those massive pit rigs basically do most of the work automatically once the drills put in position. The older mobile pit rigs need more human management, but now its just push and play. I will say though if you were caught fucking about on your phone on a job site while operating machines like that in BC you could be in deep shit with the shift boss.

>>22295388
nice, just ordered a tube.

Heres a recent find from the sixteen to one mine in california before I go.

>>22297033
Which 16 ro 1 mine? I've heard of at least two. Supposedly there is one in PLumas county, adn another in Sierra county I think.

Looking to buy my first oz of gold. Does anyone here take advantage of credit cards with high cash back and rewards to game the system? Was looking at a cash back card that paid $150 for the first $600 spent, and also 1.5%. So for $2000 in gold I would get back $180. Does anyone know if this works?

>>22297188
this is how i got my 1oz gold and 1oz plat for spot about 2 months ago. dunno about cash back thing though, conversion rate is awful for that

>>22297162
Its located in Alleghany, CA. They call it the "original" sixteen to one mine.

>>22297188
i would like to add that im not paying interest for 15 months, its the only thing that makes it worth it

>>22297265
That's just a few miles from Downieville. I spent a summer in that area with my grandfather mining for gold on the Yuba river once when I was a kid.

>>22297303
yes amazing ore down that way, someday i ll go check it out!

>>22296651
>>22295388
Nice. Asahi tubes come in 20 or 25?

Should l sell my SILJ and pick up AUN and BHS instead?

Second half of my first tube comes in the mail next week! Why do I feel so comfy all of a sudden??

>>22297443
20 I believe

>>22297510
heyyyyy I'pm doing the same, but i already have aurcana so instead it's BHS and DL. SILJ has really been under performing compared to the other etfs

>>22289720
>>22289720
Major news

>>22297747
What news

>>22297510
redpill me on BHS

>>22297541
because you're holding God's money fren, of course it feels good!

>>22289884
>>22289895
Cute

>>22290555
The storage option is often used for group order such as "Backyard Bullion" does from the "The Silver Forum" website. Group orders where several buyers come together for cheaper overall shipping.

Otherwise you can store for 6 months and send when you want.

>>22297747
>>22297844
the penultimate queens beast announced

>>22298073
That's the last one, there are only 10.

>>22297188
I don't think too many will honor it, maybe the 150 back for the first 600 but the percentage probably not. When I purchase on card they put it under currency exchange and not purchases

Local bullion dealer has a $7CAD premium per silver 1oz coins. Good deal for a small purchase?

>>22291520
I agree with this only if you can find a roll of 100 for a good price. It is better for exchange if shit actually hit the fan.

>>22297747
its about fucking time, when and where, i need 3

>>22294002
Is this the guy from yesterday?

How much silver have you been stacking this summer? Is it still worth it to buy gold or should I just continue to purchase silver. Been buying about 20z every two weeks

>>22294002
This chart is so wrong it's laughable new Zealand was 1942ish China 1940s, Denmark the 1940s etc

>>22298325
2021?

>>22290327
you're a fucking faggot

>>22289729
dear god

>>22298507
oh well, ill wait, glad it doesnt look like shit at least

>>22294002
New Zealand and Romania both dropped Silver in 1946, same as Britain. China had Silver coins produced well into the 40s (but they were all dated 1934 or older). Lebanon dropped Silver in 1952. I can give you the data I used for the original map if you want.

>>22298871
$50 high, $5 low
$45 difference
New minimum target would be $50+$45 so we can expect $95 Silver minimum.

>>22298727
Did you buy silver or gold at least anon

>>22289729
>>22298871
>>22299062
Im slightly retarded, please explain these meme lines to me

>>22293915
>Mods are asleep post spoons.

Spoons are a good start, but true SilverSpergs aren't limited to mere flatware.

I've been scrapping cheap sterling sold low by ignorant noobs all year, keeping the good rare valuable sterling antiques as-is and stacking .9999 kilos returned by my refinery from the regular scrap. Got gobs coming in the mail at any given time (100+oz worth right now, long weekend) and total costs for my bars and ingots are still less than 20/Ozt today, literally can't make enough money to buy all the cheap scrap I have access to. It's about goddamn time my autism started paying off, lots of fun too desu.

>>22299095
Don't know what more you want, Silver is forming giga-cup and handle pattern. It is very bullish plush all the fuss with dollar printing and crysis means it will be a biblical pump.

>>22299126
How can I stack sterling like you? Where the fuck do you find all this stuff? I found a few cups at a thrift shop but they were plated. It was a big let down.

>>22299062
What timeframe does this appear to be working with?

>>22299206
estate sales are no joke, in az we have tons of them but they get picked over pretty well and people know what they have generally. if you do get lucky enough to find some cheap sterling you have a 50/50 shot of some faggot telling the owner what it is before you can buy it. happened to me.

Have any anons bought Liberty Rounds from JM Bullion?
https://www.jmbullion.com/1-oz-silvertowne-lady-liberty-silver-round/
I'm thinking of stacking some, but I've never seen one in person before, so don't know about their quality.

>>22299216
5 years of uptrend according to the graph.

>>22299261
generic, for weight, at spot resale silver.

>>22299257
>you have a 50/50 shot of some faggot telling the owner what it is before you can buy it
Why the fuck do people do this? I bet these are the same cunts who reminded teachers in school not to forgot to collect peoples homework right as class was about to end.

>>22299156
This Russian 1980 Olympic silver some Boomer bought in back 1980 cost me the same that it was worth back then. For 40 years some old man was holding these and decides to unload them at a pawn shop right before the moon mission.

>>22299305

>>22289720
anybody know where i can find air-tites for these or the 2oz kook coins? seems like they are odd sizes.

>>22299332
"Igri 12 Olimpiadi Moskwa 1980" - 12th olympic games Moscow 1980, if you can't read cyrylic.
Very nice pieces.

What if I wanna buy silver coins, do I just pick the cheapest here https://eu.compare.pm/silver ? Does it matter if you buy these coins brand new or if they are worn down? No right, since same silver weight? How tf do I stack silver coins? Or should I go 2nd hand on a different version of craigslist in my country to buy silver in bars without tax?

>>22299300
checked
i dont know but i hate them so much, ive only been able to get a small half kilo of silverware for basically 75% of spot. every other time at least in person some asshole tells them its worth. i dont know if its a mental disability or just malevolent "if i cant have it" mentalities. there have been alot less in person sales recently but if they come back im gonna start being the first one there

>>22299300
>Why would his friends and relatives HELP him?! Why would they do that?????

>>22299457
they arent friends and relatives, they are random dickheads that are there shopping too

>>22299479
Then they are indeed assholes who can't mind their own business

>>22299376
https://www.apmex.com/product/155363/air-tite-holder-x6d-w-black-gasket-38-mm

>>22299400
Thank you I appreciate that.
It just amazes me that this giant cup and handle formation has been forming for silver for so long that you can still buy silver cheaper today then the peak in 1980.

>>22299614
That's nothing. Inflation adjusted chart shows how boomers got fucked. We can buy discounted silver.

>>22299709
Imagine being one of the guys who bought $600+ silver

>>22299709
>>22299806
Now I feel kinda bad for whoever bought this set in 1980, holding those bags all those years only to sell it around the March dip.

>>22299576
thanks fren

>>22299206
>How can I stack sterling like you? Where the fuck do you find all this stuff?

Thrift stores and estate sales are good if you're among the first but competition can be quite serious. Picrel is a 4 dollar platter I got at my local Goodwill in July, they usually screen out sterling nowadays to sell on eBay (dark tarnished pieces are often still overlooked) but this is .800 (80%) silver from interwar Berlin, 926 grams of pure silver in it but not snagged because most normies don't know much beyond sterling.

Where I get most scrap is eBay. I refresh the BIN only listings looking for fresh newly posted sterling items sold low by ignorants lacking scales. My autist memory is like a trap, so if I've ever seen or handled another like it, I can recognize and estimate weight yields with high accuracy almost instantly based on pics alone and gobble up the scrap before other like-minded scrappers see it. That doesn't help you, but just as often the sellers state the weight and for whatever reason have it priced low, so you just need to have a buy price per gram in mind and react quickly when listings priced right appear (keep shipping and tax in mind too, and beware of retards selling silver plated crap as sterling). I'm good at it, experienced quick and decisive, but really don't spend much time prowling; plenty of scrap to go around.

>>22299842
They paid for a story to tell.

>>22299933
>>22299933
>BIN only listings
Huh?

Checked

Normally I still get old coins at or slightly below spot which is nice but I dont know anything about sterling outside of looking for some sort of hallmark and having a bookmarked website with all the marks to help identify stuff. I have seen a lot of nice listings on ebay but no one posts weight and images look so deceptive. I saw a soup ladle and it looked huge until I looked it up on a vintage site and that fucker was tiny, making priced well above spot.

Ill keep trying.

should i invest in some 2020 ASE proof's? i dont have very many numismatic pieces and want to get into that a bit more since premiums are so fucked right now on bulk silver.

>>22300084
I would stack as much ounces of silver as possible and ignore anything fancy. But I guess it would be nice to have a nice single proof coin graded and everything. Just dont sacrifice money that could net you 10 oz of silver so you can buy 3 oz of fancy proof novelty coins.

>>22299216
I have been deep diving into all the smart brain and meme econ theses floating around and it kind of does all come together as such:

>1 - 3 months
Equity crash, FOMO into treasuries, banks make gainz flipping bonds to the Fed for the next round of QE. Secular stagnation confirmed. This means deflation, so normie think is that metals dip too. Some people think dollar and metals both go up but I don't fully understand that scenario yet.

>6 months - 2 years
At this point higher debt + zero-lower-bound + ineffective QE + deflation = dead western economies and desperate government. I am thinking something like they're gonna re-write monetary policy, start a war, or something else drastic that will spark stagflation fears. A lot of uncertainty + the cup & handle is a pretty good stack, so maybe PM shoots up around this time.


The other view is that we get inflation as planned, Fed policy worked as designed, and we go on until the next bubble.

>>22300084
I really don't know if premiums will ever correct, I doubt it. Since I began stacking it was anywhere from 25-50 cents per oz premium, then it was like a dollar premium then 2 and 4 and now 10 (cucknadian). I have never seen the premium go back down

>https://www.fxempire.com/forecasts/article/comexs-gold-and-silver-futures-market-trade-data-not-adding-up-670913
THE GOYIM KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN

Nice to see Normie Media attention of this fuckery.

>>22300224

I don't see any persistently deflationary scenario. Inflation really isn't hard. Print money, send people fedbux, done deal. They're just hesitating because they're scared of runaway inflation due to people rejecting the dollar.

I think they'll get over it either way. If it's Trump: he wants a weaker dollar to pump domestic manufacturing, if it's Biden: the people running the country for him are dumb enough to think the dollar is invincible. Either way, same outcome.

>>22300054
BIN is "buy it now", so if you sort by newly listed you can be among the first to see the inexpensive good deals that get listed. Getting deals on coin is good too, but scrapping is the best reliable source for cheap silver I've come up with. Forgot picrel of 4 dollar silver platter, honestly inclined to keep it instead of melt.

Here is a good example that I literally just bought right now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293725124112

It's all obvious in the listing, 477 grams of sterling (maybe 470 subtracting enamel) for what worked out to 225 total for me. Melt price is 377.25 ATM, instant gravy ya know what I mean? I love autism lol.

>>22289729
Does TA even work when the time span is that long?

>>22300224
I think they'll just inflate until the currency fails and they create the digital coins they all planned for decades ago.

>>22300683
Would silver and gold be worth much outside the circles where aspies like us would trade it for shit?

>>22300666
Define time

>>22300777
metals were traded universally for thousands of years over and under the table I'm not sure where your worry comes from

>>22300829
Well, it's 50 years on that chart.

thoughts on mercury dimes and other 90% silver coins? i really like them but is there any reason i shouldn't get 90% silver over .999 other than the obvious purity difference

>>22300777
also if things get pretty bad normal people including your neighbor will suddenly be "uhh did you know 1964 and older coins are 90% silver?? :) " experts.

Don't underestimate how much people change in a crisis

>>22289867
What about these?

>>22300777
Checked and yes, Jews will always want more gold and silver will be ever more critical in modern high technology and consumer goods as we advance, so it is a good bet for reasons beyond it's monetary function too and where I focus most efforts. I've picked up dirt cheap gold for refining too but have really never been impressed with the yellow metal, silver is best of all.

>>22300650
Damn, thats a heck of a plate. Ill browse tonight and see if I can buy something small and get myself into the mood of things or if I get ripped off buying plated junk kek

>>22300895
Here's a pro tip. When you're holding hands with your girl, match up her ring finger joint with one of your finger joints of the same size, then you'll know what size to get her.

>>22300517
Monetary inflation has been very hard, especially for Europe and Japan. In the US we have decreasing inflation rate for like 30 years.
>Print money
They print bank reserves and depend on banks lending to actually increase the money supply. No one wants to take loans right now.
>Fedbux
This doesn't increase the money supply. Its taken from existing tax deposits, and is then being used to pay off existing debts.
>Runaway inflation
The Fed & Gov actually have all the cards to stop this from happening. Just raise fed funds rate and enact more lockdowns + higher taxes.

>>22300683
They are trying to inflate but they can't. They need money to be loaned into existence but under the current monetary system they depend on banks, which are tightening lending standards despite QE. I think when they ditch the current system they actually will go to some king of digital inflato-coin.

>>22290825
You sure that's from a wreck? Looks great if so, most are rather corroded by saltwater. I love coins (ancient Greek silver mostly right now) so will always approve, nice piece of well traveled history m8.

>>22289729
Any time frame as to when silver will hit $30? $45? make a new ATH? I know this pattern is ultra bullish but since this cup and handle has taken so long to form, when will the breakout happen ?

>>22301180
>decreasing inflation rate for like 30 years.
Then why is everything so expensive compared to back then. I just want a house near my family damn it.

>>22301308
If the overall market tanks hard, silver and gold will likely pullback with it. This will create a great buying opportunity. If it doesn't however likely over $30 in the next week and over $35 the following week.

>>22301384
I personally think that we may see $35+ silver by the end of next week. September FOMC is next Wednesday, very interested to see what JPow says then. If YCC and/or official inflation averaging is implemented then we likely will never see under $30 silver again

>>22301099
I fish for silver on the eBay smartphone app, get your search set up in the "antiques" subcategory, BIN only, sorted most recent first, then just periodically refresh and see what's new when nothing else is going on. It will take practice to get good but just as important is being among the first to see the obviously underpriced good deals like that bowl, I've bought stuff way cheaper per gram listed just as clearly so good luck hunting, cheap silver is definitely out there.

>>22289720
september is going to be a good month

Uh, guys? Why is it the spot price not moving?

>25oz silver
>1oz gold
>feel like a poorfag failure
>remember ALL my millenial peers drowning in debt and still buying new iphones, going on ridiculously expensive trips and eating out every day
feels fucking great knowing I can just pick up my shit and go live anywhere in the world I wanted, not indebted to anyone.
That being said I'm fairly content and bored with life now, any interesting hobbies /pmg/?

>>22301605
check it again in 2.5 hours

>>22300650
My god what is wrong with your nails

>>22301346
Because he's an idiot who uses MMT to explain away inflation. The current measurements on inflation disregard increasing prices if the thing that increased in price has "increased in value" as well. They also don't include increasing food prices as "inflation."

The Modern Monetary proponents seem to love by the mantra "if we just deny reality it will go away."

What's your go coin and fondle stack pmg? For me its the Thaler.
>Thicc bullion, no real numismatic value but could be over 200 years old.
Nice talking piece about the the word “thaler” giving rise to daler, which became “dollar” in English.
Can happily clink them away like a pirate
durable and has gets with .833 purity
Austrian empress had 16 children
>cool double headed eagle

>>22301605
Lurk more. A lot more.

>>22301346
Inflation is still positive but the rate of change is less and less every year.

Also we are experiencing cost-push inflation, which is not what the Fed wants. Fed wants inflation from the money supply - currency devaluation. Shit we buy costing more is due to higher tariffs, VAT, higher energy prices. House prices are more expensive due both monetary inflation and also increased demand. But if you look at the charts housing prices seem to be rolling over. The rate of change is decreasing and hopefully going negative AND hopefully QE pushes interest rates even lower.

Imagine a house at 30% discount with a 0.5% 30 year mortgage.

>>22301561
>2020
>price driven down in June
>amazing month of July for silver
>mediocre month of August
>September here and FOMC meeting soon
yeah im thinking september is going to be a big month for us

>>22301672
i feel up on my asahis

>>22289720
Yeet

>>22301666
The Fed uses the "core-PCE" meme because they only want to focus on inflation caused by money supply. They don't include stuff people actually buy because it fluctuates seasonally and is impacted more by cost-push factors. When food, gas, dildos get more expensive each year, it is not because of money supply growth.

Nothing to due with MMT. Current economy works on debt so it needs monetary inflation to continue. Fed policy cannot achieve enough inflation to keep the jews happy. We can't see monetary inflation without increased bank lending.

>>22297747
That’s just a dog? With really long claws?

I’m so torn I want the krakens and now the doggo, the Asahi bars in anons horde and also a gold eagle and the new 5 oz ATB and some bartres and those coronavirus rounds or bars...

Is bullionsharks legit?

>>22301855
The White Greyhound of Richmond was a badge of John of Gaunt, Earl of Richmond, son of Edward III. It was also used by Henry IV and especially by Henry VII. The Tudor double rose can be seen on the shield, one rose within another surmounted by a crown. It symbolizes the union of two of the cadet houses of the Plantagenet - York and Lancaster.

>>22301672
Good choice, dollar or crown sized silver coins are based. My fondledollars are these original Dutch "Lion Dollars" (Daalder), a type that circulated in the 17th century American colonies. Low grade and cheap so no real harm playing with them. Kilo ingots are ideal if you like fondling bullion btw, perfect heft and handfeel.

>>22301180

You are breaking printing and fedbux apart to argue against each by themselves m8. They know they need some form of UBI and they'll work backwards from that to fund it. No way in hell do they raise taxes enough to cover it.

>>22290490
>>22298727

>>22289720

Where can I get the Krakens in Europe without getting assraped with fees and taxes?

>>22302297
dunno, dont live in europe lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UmpCAI_qJM
Just realized that the Robert Kiyosaki and Peter Schiff podcast came out a few days ago.

>>22302060
the statues fucking suck, look like a 4th grader was project lead.

>>22302380
The project lead was indeed a 4th grader. Please be nice to the child.

>>22302192
man I want one of those so bad but never pulled the trigger especially with that Dutch East India Company lore as well

>>22302297
I got them at goldsilver.be, but they are since sold out. Only coininvest.com still has them from the bigger retailers it seems; but at a premium: https://eu.compare.pm/p/kraken-2020-silver-2-oz

>>22302060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

>>22301626
we're not so different, you and I.
as for hobbies, I highly recommend gardening of some sort. It's practical, extremely easy and cheap to start, and it is truly gratifying watching something grow that you take care of. Helps me stay in my routine even on those days that I don't want to leave bed, because fuck, if I don't leave bed then my plants could die D:
Even better if you do a vegetable you like. You can get potato yields in a 5 gallon bucket or grow many retail-bag equivalents of salad mix as baby greens in a small plastic tote.
good luck anon

Just wanted to thank you lads for getting me into silver. Savings accounts seem absolutely ludicrous with their 0.1% interest rates when a bloody metal gives a 25% ROI.

That said, I wish I spent proper money on the stuff rather than slummy back when it was £13/oz....

>>22301626
Good start, but realize you're missing the 3rd and perhaps most crucial PM of them all ... lead.
Get into guns. Practice with them. Sink at least 5- 10% of your wealth in it, ideally 50/50 split between guns and ammo.

Gold and Silver are great, but without lead you're ngmi

>>22302297

They have it here most of the time
https://goldsilver.be/en/home/3156-canada-2-oz-silver-creatures-of-the-north-the-kraken-2020-10.html?search_query=kraken&results=1

>>22302236
QE and fiscal stimulus are completely different things.

The Fed cannot give money or reserves directly to the treasury. If the Gov wants to pass fiscal stimulus funded by bonds, they have to sell those bonds at auction. Primary dealer jews buy those bonds, toss them to commercial banks, then the Fed swaps the bonds for bank reserves. This is QE and it is removing money from supply, until banks loan it out at greater multiples, which they won't do = deflation.

This is why monetary reset from >>22300224 is probably happening soon. Potentially will do shitcoin like >>22300683 says, where they can directly inject cash into money supply without being held back by the banks.

THIS is the bullish catalyst for metals.

>>22296306
Holy fuck is that Bingham canyon?

>>22291511
They are, I have some. And I honestly like the look of the Krugs personally, though I get jealous every time I see a Kraken posted at all.

>>22302821

I get QE and why it isn't working. I am saying they will discard it and move to direct cash injection (negative tax brackets or UBI) on a shorter timeline than you are laying out. Trump is not against it, people want it, and even republicans are starting to figure out money pooling at the top is choking the economy to death.

Which will ofc bump velocity (maybe with a delay as people first pay down debt), and as it will be mostly (probly entirely) printed, so money supply go up too.

>>22296306
>Pan Man

>>22301626
Music, but it's expensive
Drawing/painting, less expensive
Hitch-hiking or trecking, except the sleeping bag and food it's pretty economic

>>22302802
What's a good recommendation for beginners

who else has acquired a 2020 set?

Where can I get old silver with chop marks on it?

Hey guys, lurked for a couple of threads now, after checking up on /biz/ after a lot of years
This is something I'll want to get into eventually, when I have more cash

I see some references in the OP for european stuff, but not many
Can some euro anons tell me about how hard is hoarding precious metals here?

I see canadian mintings being important and valued here
Is it also affordable to get them from here? where should I go to get into this as a hobby

>>22303127
Liberty on platinum looks bad. I wish they would change the design. How about Mercury platinum?

I got my hands on a silver maple today, but I noticed that it has milk spots. Should I clean it or leave it?

>>22299806
>>22299842
The big brain bagholder who bought for $600 will hold until the WW3 crisis of 2035 and sell their silver for 200% profit

>>22303202
they already did this anon

>>22303173
>where should I go to get into this as a hobby
first id start locally if you have any good shops to frequent. keep doing research about any questions you'll come across. not sure what else to tell ya being a burger.
as an aside im a big fan of the RCM

>>22303202
yeah thatd be a much better look for sure. shame they used it on the Pd coin that came with stupid premiums. but now i regret not grabbing them. really kicking myself in the ass for not getting a Pd ballerina with the USSR mint mark when they were in the $1,600s

>>22303259
this is why i dont buy used coins, people get their cum stains on them and pretend "milk spots" are a thing

>>22303117
Depends on your country, state, and local laws.

Get a .22lr rifle, 12ga shotgun, and center fire rifle (AR is ideal if available) and you'll be set. Handgun is good but less important than all of those. Lurk /k/ especially the cangen if you're Canadian. Stack 5000+ rds of .22lr, 2000+ full power rifle rds, and 1000 assorted shells.

>>22303371

lmao you cum on your silver coins bro. Don't lie.

>>22303388
checked, i do, but im not gonna mix cum no matter how antimicrobial silver is. buy new, be the seal breaker

>>22302369
Haha holy shit Kiyosaki started a gold mine in China and had it taken by the Chinks.

>>22303442
He is not so smart after all.

>>22302539
this was the best post ive read in a while, gj anon

>>22303643
Boomers never learn to not trust a chink. He was against miners ever since but now Peter got him to buy into his gold fund.

>>22303386
I am from USA, lurked k for a while and it's not like precious metals, anime, or computers, because you just have to shoot guns to know how they feel and they're too expensive to just buy on a whim. It is mostly people arguing over whether or not cz is a good brand and I don't get anything out of it

>>22298249
Prem is around 5.50 in Winni (for 1 oz currency), 7$ is still better than most online seller, would go for it

>>22303777
checked

>>22300259
Don’t pay 10 cucknadian. Canadianpmx has bars for 4 dollars over spot, coins for 5 dollars over. Not great but it’s the lowest I can find, even my local stores a charge 6-7

Got 20 rounds, get the 1 oz or 10 oz bar?

>>22304841
both

>>22304841
Is Asahi truly /oursilver/? I find them to be top aesthetic

>>22304887
yes

Hey pmg-frens,

I have a small collection of silver coins. Should I sell them now that they're at 10 year highs, or do you see silver prices going higher?

>>22303117

People say a 22 and they are fun to shoot, and if you are broke you can get in plenty of range time for sure.

Personally, as I would not defend myself with 22 I do not practice with it because I generally don't shoot just for fun. If I had to choose 1 gun I would rather spend more on an AR with a good sight, and less on ammo and range time.

>>22299933
I was trolling for silver ending soon to snipe last night and saw some scrap going for under spot. Shoulda gone for it, but ideally I'd like to melt it into something cool. Any experience with that or do you just hang onto the scrap?

>>22304120
Dude any gun in the same caliber isn't going to feel much different. Just get any basic AR like an M&P15, a Mossberg 500 or Maverick 88 for a shotgun, and literally any bolt action .22 like a Savage. You can't go wrong with any of those. It's really not rocket science, just watch some YouTube vids and pull the trigger on something u like

>>22304887
Good aesthetics and always a bit lower in premium than everything else. It's everything we want whether you're a stacklet or your own personal mine.

>>22304887
Yes.

>>22304978
Might raise another $5/$10 this month so I'd hold

Lads, tell me my minies are going to moon soon. Pwease?

>>22301672
what's a good price for a thaler?
>>22302192
what's a good price for a lionbuck?

Here it is, the improved World map. Please let me know if there are any inaccuracies or design flaws. I excluded parts of North Africa and the Middle East because they used and still use Maria Theresa Thalers, which would skew the data.

>>22300884
mercs are a great coin. don't let anyone dissuade you from junk, it's probably where stackers should start as you can usually find spot deals even on ebay

>>22299126
Here's one I found that could be a good deal. Do you think it's real and how can you tell? Has sterling stamp but doesn't say 925.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sterling-Silver-Punch-ladle-13-5-long-Very-good-condition-elegant/333713818661?hash=item4db2e4c425:g:F4MAAOSwKdVfVoSP&redirect=mobile

>>22305383
so the longer ago a country debased its currency, the shittier it is, lmao.

>>22304887
>>22304916
>>22305156
>>22305201
>newfag frgoniggers ITT who'eve just jumped on the PM market attampting to corale /pmg/ for themselves
Ahem, QUICK reminder that CORONACOINS (nothing else) is the /ourcoin/ of /pmg/. Not that you newfaggots would know, but /pmg/ controls a disproportionate amount of them, and combined have raised premiums on them out of scarcity. Some shitty corporate rounds with no mint attached will NEVER EVEN COMPETE with the coveted batbois.
Case closed, court dismissed.

*ahem* NEWNIGGERS FUCK OFF AND LURK MOAR.

>>22305483
fuck off retard

>>22305463
Generally, sometimes the Silver coins stayed in circulation for years before they got debased, this didn't really happen too often, though, mostly just in places with lower populations and less demand for coins.

>>22303092
imagine mining with a spatula
it'd take you 600 years to dig an ounce of gold

>>22305512
this
>>22305483
is a fucking spaz

>>22305011
I have an electric metals furnace and have experimented with casting sterling and bronze items but am still learning, goal is to make sterling or even solid bullion "silver knuckles" based on a nice antique brass knuckles I have, oughta be pretty sweet when I get everything ironed out.

Most cheap sterling is brought to a refinery which pours me 4-n kilo ingots after processing the batches, though I keep lots of the rare/high quality cool stuff as-is because I've always liked antiques anyway, dining from sterling plates and goblets etc is patrician as fuck and the good old pieces are worth more than their bullion content so no harm saving for now.

>>22305367
>what's a good price for a lionbuck?

I waited for a decently good deal, got my pair for less than 100 shipped total off eBay from a collector paring down his Thaler collection. Higher grade/better strike examples will cost more but you should be able to find the equivalent in the 40-60 dollar range if you look around and are patient, they're really not that scarce. Beware of shady Chinese and Russian fakes and sellers and you'll do fine.

>>22301514
Good advice. Thanks.

The COMEX has defaulted.

https://www.fxempire.com/forecasts/article/comexs-gold-and-silver-futures-market-trade-data-not-adding-up-670913

>>22305914
Thanks for the info, but with that much physical wealth you shouldn't have any faces visible in the photos you post on here. Some cunt might recognise you or yours and come for your doubloons.

How does one go from stacklet to modest stack in the current climate?

What do you think fellas. Should I buy silver today or wait to see the market tomorrow

>>22305451
Don't buy that one, the stamping is fine, lots of sterling flatware and tableware is just marked "STERLING" but only the hollow handle is made of silver, maybe 25 grams of sterling in it, the rest is base metal and resin handle filler material.

>>22305983
Surely it's defaulting this time!
https://youtu.be/D1UJhwOEOWM

>>22306088
How about this? Handle is silver, blade is stainless , 2 for 30 bucks. No idea how much it weighs but knives can be hefty... surely both handles combined are more than an ounce?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Sterling-Silver-Master-Butter-Knives-Lunt-Delacourt-Pattern-No-Mono/254712615785?hash=item3b4e0e1369:g:mkoAAOSwEOhfQKgj&LH_BIN=1&redirect=mobile

How much profit per ounce do you have to make to make taking it to ma refiner worth it? Ie, what kind of cut do they get out of the deal?

>>22306041
I think you'd have to pay excessive premiums if you try to build gradually, since silver is only going to go up. So either put your cock on the block and buy now in BULK or be prepared to wait a good while for a bear market and a way in. Besides, 1oz and 10oz are out everywhere. You could still get a monster box at 20% premium. You'd usually pay double that for single coins/small purchases.

Easier said than done though, putting down that much cash.

>>22289970
there's one on ebay right now for 1k, time to cash in your silver and get it

>>22305983
its gettin there

>>22289867
>aztec
>Sophisticated

>>22290327
please ban this disgusting chink

>>22305032
Not true
Triggers feel very different, also different guns have a different recoil, compare a vector to another smg and you will notice that it has a recoil control mechanism
Quality and ease of handling is important too

I ordered 100oz silver Kangaroos as a first ever investment (aside from my residence) after reading and getting advice in earlier threads. In hindsight I never thought about what the next step is. When do I sell, what prices are good relative to spot and where am I even supposed to sell them when the time comes (since pm dealers seem to sell with a high markup and buy super low - paid 2660€ and best price I've found over where I live has been 2200€)?

I've also heard that some have had a hard time getting rid of their silver when its ratio relative to gold is small, a friend of mine who bought gold warned me about that today. Of course I can just hold for 50 years if need be and have them around when/if something terrible like war or hyper inflation occurs but obviously I'd much rather turn a big profit and buy low again later...

>>22299709
quick question, why use 1980 CPI for today's silver?

>>22303202
Mercury Palladium would like a word with you

>>22306206
Now you're thinking right, a sweet little niche with less competition is the sterling handle dinner and butter knives. It varies by style, but full dinner knives tend to yield between 18 and 24 grams each depending on style and make, little 6-7 inch sterling handle butter knives more at the 10-16g range, master butters and luncheon knives in-between. So yes you're right there is probably over an ounce of silver here, but not priced appropriately.

My general rule is I'll happily spend 10 bucks each on batches of dinner knives (9+ inches), as I average 20+g/each after breaking them down. Knives in the 11-12/each range need to be extra ornate heavy styles.

Depending on the refinery and size of batch, expect 80-84% of the total solid sterling weight to be returned as bullion, refining fee of 8-12% taken out of the silver at my place so no electronic or paper trail past the eBay buying activity.

>>22305383
Needs names, plus 1969 is out of order.

noob here. thinkng about buying some bars online but worried about counterfeit. is it common? how to tell?

>>22305383
Very interesting...

>>22306463
Exchange for gold when the ratio is small. If its impossible to find gold then the ratio won’t be small

>>22306463
Actually looking at spot price now that 2200€ is actually a good price. Very close to spot actually. But I still have my concerns because I'm so inexperienced with investing

>>22306463
What's that? £24 an ounce? I'd honestly say you got Jewed. Especially since you ordered that amount. Should have paid a lower premium.

I know people will go on about 'muh sunken cost fallacy' but the fact is if you sell now you've got a negative ROI. Silver is only getting better, so why not wait until it clears your initial investment at least?

>>22299126
What's the minimum weight to send it off to a refinery?

>>22301666
checked

toasty one
>>22306798
>>22306798
>>22306798

>>22306561
Do you just have to buy some and lose a little money and get a feeling for the weights until you get good at it? This is interesting to me, thank you for the information

>>22306705
At my place "Prospector's Gold and Gems" I think it's anything over 10 ounces, they'll purchase smaller batches of silver though. I always do 100+ oz loads for better rates and drop/pick up in person so no shipping costs or concerns.

>>22306672
2619€ (not 2660€ my bad) total, shipping and all included. Used the comparing website linked in the OP and that was the best price listed. Did I get jewed hard? I've only confirmed the order but I haven't paid for it yet, I can probably cancel it if there is a significantly better price available.
>fact is if you sell now you've got a negative ROI. Silver is only getting better, so why not wait until it clears your initial investment at least?
Of course I'm not going to sell at a loss! I was wondering when the time to sell actually comes and whether I'll be able to sell the coins when their price is high since a friend of my friend couldn't get rid of theirs.
>>22306661
>Exchange for gold when the ratio is small.
Is it possible to exchange without having to pay income tax? Ideally I'd want to juggle silver and gold and accumulate it over time of course.
>If its impossible to find gold then the ratio won’t be small
Who would exchange for silver when the ratio is indeed small? Will there even be a demand for silver when the ratio is small? You'd think nobody wants to buy silver with small ratio

Can we continue in the next thread?

>>22306599
Buy from a dealer with decades of sales, not eBay. One recommended in the op

>>22306854
Yes basically, gotta get your feet wet and accrue hands-on experience before those basic skills can be further honed. It takes some risk tolerance and confidence but if you've got the knack for it you'll figure it out soon enough. I honestly reserve some scrap cash to buy "educational silver", for example weighted items (silver foil filled with plaster or resin) that look like they're priced ok that I'm not familiar with to break down and study. Then you know precisely what yields to expect from the same items (models of salt and pepper shakers, sets of sugars and creamers, etc.) and can mine such items in the future very shrewdly and effectively with that special knowledge making doing the math crystal clear. And I'm glad to share, hopefully it gets you thinking and more aware of lucrative opportunities out there.

>>22307012
Thanks mate. I'm in England so I don't know if it is identical here, but we've enough refineries that someone will melt it, surely.

So, in short, is your advice:
find random high quality silvern objects.
purchase below spot value for the total silver weight of said objects.
accumulate 100oz
refine, and allow the low price of purchase to offset the 10-20% loss from fees.


>>22307016
I only know that I bought some about 9 months ago at £16/oz or 18 euros/oz., including shipping. And the spot price then was £13 or so. So I paid 23% premium. And that was only 10oz worth. You are paying 30% on 100oz. On a second look not as bad as I thought because your shipping costs will be lower no doubt.

Let's migrate anyway, this thread's dead.