/biz/ - Business & Finance

ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION

The COMEX has DOUBLED the number of approved Refiners from ~70 to ~130**INCLUDING ~20 CHINESE REFINERS!!!!11**https://youtu.be/_kiCqOL-tqU

This is unprecedented!!
Everyone knows Chinese gold / silver is untrustworthy, full of tungsten & lead!!
NOBODY trusts Chinese metals!! Are you kidding me COMEX??

Imagine an institution buying 10 contracts, standing for physical delivery, and they are given 1,000oz of CHINESE gold!!
LMAO
There is going to be hell to pay - they are not going to accept it (who the hell would accept it without assaying the hell out of every single bar??)
Just imagine the absolute shitstorm when even ONE buyer reports that their COMEX gold was not in fact .999 bullion

https://news.bitcoin.com/gold-industry-83-tons-fake-gold-bars-secure-2-billion-loans-china/https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/chinas-biggest-gold-fraud-4-of-its-reserves-may-be-fake-report/articleshow/76707339.cms

This level of desperation is unreal

>>22277929
>https://news.bitcoin.com/gold-industry-83-tons-fake-gold-bars-secure-2-billion-loans-china/https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/chinas-biggest-gold-fraud-4-of-its-reserves-may-be-fake-report/articleshow/76707339.cms
This link does not work rn anon. Where is the archive link.

>>22277929
And the ponzi continues.. metal cucks btfo. Remember kids, the markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

>>22277975
It's two separate articles..

I wonder if the Chinese refiners will step up their forgery game for COMEX? Start using Molybdenum instead of Lead?

>>22277881
looks like an aquarium

>>22278006
Gotcha. Did not notice. Thanks friend

>>22277920
Problem is those people in the COMEX shoe industry bought thousands and thousands of shoes at a cheap promised price. Now they have no shoes and they get their useless crap sandals back that they used to buy superior footwear, shoes. Now the exchange power of their sandals is less and the cost of shoes are higher and there are millions of people who now all the sudden want get thousands and thousands of shoes from other markets causing a severe shortage of shoes, making their value skyrocket.

COMEX failing is a big deal.

POST STACKS YOU FILTHY POORS

>>22278055
Checked and truthpilled.

dudes, just bought 100 2020 australian kangaroos
did i do good?

HI ANONS, WHY IS PLATINUM ALMOST NEVER TALKED ABOUT IN /PMG/?

>>22278088
No.

>>22278094
Yes. Weeb rounds are better, but you did good.
>>22278108
That is because platinum is newer compared to gold and silver which has been repressed for hundreds of years. More potential gains compared to platinum especially since the foundations of 150+ year suppression is about to end.

>>22277966
I will, at $3. Bubble pops and price goes down 90%.

>>22278088
Filthy poor reporting for shitposting duty

>>22278165
Silver will never hit $3. Screen cap this.

>>22278165
>draws line that shows that the potential line can only go up
>Becomes a tard by saying red line goes down
>Does not go back to years of this chart.
Yeah, suuuuuure.

>>22278178
You have more silver than 99% of people on earth. 1 oz of silver was buying 6 months of food in Venezuela few months ago when spot was $20 USD.

>>22278178
Something is better than nothing. Do you have some junk silver, but that is some tasty rounds fren. Especially the scottsdale bar,

>>22278204
Dond judge me! Everyone knows that price goes down 90% when bubble pops.

>>22278088

>>22278108
It is only in recent human history that platinum hasn't been an absolute pain in the ass to refine and separate from its constituent ores. It has had far less experience as gold and silver for the purposes. Because of that it isn't considered a safe haven asset as much as gold is which means its price can be tracked to the underlying economy because of its industrial uses.
I do trade it a little bit though. Same with uranium although there is no way I am ever going to hold that.

>>22278165
I lold

>>22278248
Bro...stock markets are built upon fiat. Scroll your timeline to 3-10 years. We are not even there yet at a bubble pop. If you are not part of the IDF or JP Morgan, you really have to do your research on classical economics of supply and demand.

>>22278224
Stop lying kid.

>>22278165
"no"

>>22278251
based

how to buy shiny rocks locally if i am autistic, what do i say

>>22278388
P-p-please can I b-b-buy a tube of Maple Leaf Silver bullion, Sir?

>>22278388
Say, do you have some silver bullion or junk silver. No silver buckshot.

If I wanna buy silver coins, do I just pick the cheapest here https://eu.compare.pm/silver ? What even is the difference between them? Do they only have silver value or also 'coin value' i.e. do they have more value because of how they look, like fdc etc, or is it purely about the value of the coin in grams of silver?

Also, silver coins are in my country without tax, but I could also buy a silver bar 2nd hand online. Is that worth it or risky?

>>22278388
1) speak in whole sentences
2) ask questions that pertain only to your purchase
3) have a general idea of how much you want to spend when you walk in the door
4) maintain just a little bit of eye contact
5) have a little bag to put your treasure in to keep it safe when you leave
6) good luck!

>>22278520
You need more options to buy silver. It seems like slim pickings. Also, you should allocate 5-10% into 2nd hand silver if you have the magnet testing kit. You can generally test the silver if you are buying it 2nd hand. Do your research anon.

>>22277881
no big deal. deliveries can be settled in cash. they changed the rules. retard pmg fucks lmao

guys I hate to say it
but I think im gonna sell my miners tuesday
SPX dipping has brought down gold stonks too despite the spot price and dooming debt/inflation.
There will likely be a period of deflation as well before the FED inflation target even kicks in.
Markets too volatile

Good luck bros, but I'm gonna hop off this wild ride for now. Been in it since April.

>>22278737
redpill me

>>22278165
Nice chart. $50 confirmed

>>22278088

>>22278808
Fren, hold on. It is about to take off next month.
>>22278820
So, the gold to silver ratio is the price of silver compared to gold. When we were on the gold standerd, the price between the two has been between 15:1 or 4:1. The historic average was 80:1. This is a time to buy silver since we are seeing the COMEX do absolutely idiotic stuff that is the red flag that it is on it's last leg (Check OP's Vids). The thinks you should be after is junk silver since you can get it really close to spot. Asahi (weeb) rounds since they are around $3 over spot which is ridiculously good in this short supply market where eagles are around $8 of premium. Never go for buckshot silver since that is how they scam new players in the silver market. Mining stocks are only good if you spent a lot of time in the silver market and research. Mining stocks are completely diffrent from a regular stock market or precious metal index so you need to change your mind to it. I do not recommend newbies to hop into it unless you have a lot of silver in the bank or want to transfer your money in the stock market into it.

>>22278808
I think you might be right.
I think the sell-off will continue & we will see big red days for the whole market ahead; this will greatly increase the demand for the dollar (as people will want dollars instead of their stocks) - the European central bank also just announced they're going to be trying to drive down the Euro (which will further boost the dollar) There are currently HUGE short positions on the dollar, which means that the squeeze is going to be particularly juicy
The dollar is currently bouncing from 2 year low and Euro is bouncing from 1.20

Japan / the Korean Peninsula is about to be hammered by a serious typhoon (bullish)
It's going to be very interesting to see how foreign markets act without the US open on Monday..
I think we'll still see the 6:00-7:00pm & 12:00am-1:00am BIS manipulations..

I just don't know if we'll realistically see silver much below $25. I think if the sell-off does continue, it might get panic sold-off below $25 and then rebound sharply.

The price can't be allowed to be below $25 or far too many contracts would be taken with intention of standing for physical delivery..
but then again, as we see >>22277929
it's very unlikely a force majeure is going to happen this month.. (which is one of the major bullish drivers)

However, after Congress votes the new stimulus the week of the 14th & the Fed meets the 15th/16th and 'officially' enacts average inflation targeting measures, it seems very likely for PM to take off again

This week might be very red though.. we'll see.

Collectors coins vs standard, is the RIO the same?

>>22279082
Yeah. Speculation ontop of a three day weekend does not feel good.

>>22278995
>>22279082

I'm taking profits on a lot of my juniors, but keeping a few of them in case of massive news. ie KNTNF (which surged 30% after fantastic drilling results. I have a lot of faith in these juniors)
see >>22265640
for juniors

I'm 100% selling all of my majors.

I have no faith in the majors and see them as likely going to drop 20-30% within the next month or two. I'll might buy back into the dip after the election.

I will be buying a position in DUST as well on Tuesday.

>>22278995
thanks anon
so regarding the ratio - gold is overpriced right now, and i should be staying away?
also what is buckshot silver? i was a sucker for some canadian coins during my first purchase, but i will look into those asashi rounds when i make a bigger purchase next time

>>22277920
When Beckett stopped being the pricing guide for Magic Cards and people began to Rey on things like EBay, TCG and Troll & Toad the price of rare MTG Cards literally quintupled in five years.

>>22279257
If that is the plan, do it. Keep your ear to the ground and listen if the comex starts to default.
>>22279285
No, that is not how the ratio plays out. It is historically silver that catches up to gold in the ratio then it falls back. Having 1/10th or 1oz (if you are rich) is fine to do, but invest more heavily in silver since more potential profit.
Silver buckshot is just some buckshot, but they are all silver to the core. It is not worth talking about, but many newcomers get scammed into buying it since no one wants to buy it.

>>22279467
thanks fren

For any anons looking for a free silver chart:

https://www.macrotrends.net/2589/silver-prices-today-live-chart

Alright. I did an oopsie. I use a diluted bleach solution to wipe down Amazon packages as a reasonable measure to try not to get the rona. I also got a package with silver at the same time as Amazon. So I accidentally cross contaminated the table and hands and got some bleach on the silver. A bath in hot water and baking soda actually made the tarnish turn from brown to black. So I discovered that regular toothpaste and a toothbrush can work if you scrub it pretty well for a few minutes. Pic related are the bleach spots after baking soda bath making them worse.

>>22279559
Pic related is after scrubbing with toothpaste. Actually worked 90% of the spot out. Would recommend if you ever are retarded enough to get your silver within arms reach of bleach.

The more you know.

>>22278224
>>22278231
It's basically just going to the LCS every month with a few hundred and getting what I can. I'm probably going to get a bag of junk silver. I keep saying I need to but never do when the day comes, I'm too distracted by shiny rounds lol.

And all that is just to mix it up. Diversity is our strength amirite?

>>22279536
>https://www.macrotrends.net/2589/silver-prices-today-live-chart
That is good for interday trading, but
https://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html and
https://www.bullionvault.com/silver-price-chart.do
are better for a bigger view.

>>22279587
Diversity of idea yes. Diversity of color, maybe. General multiculturalism diversity no since that is how you smuggle creepers into your silver bars in minecraft.

>>22278958
That's more than a kilo of gold on that table

>>22279667
1150 gram

>>22279559
>I put a deadly chemical on my packages and the table i eat from and my hands so i dont get the flu
Should have just drank it, the flu lives in the mouth
You have to disinfect

>>22279226
SMG is dying since it is red. Glad PMG is on top boys.

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With the americucks asleep tomorrow, do we have a chance to moon overnight 2 nights in a row?

>>22279981
I seen you shill this link. That seems like a chinese scam.
>>22280099
With those numbers, no in short turn, but yes in long term.

>>22279793
>imagine being so poor that your only table is the kitchen table

>>22279745
Please post some close ups and side shots of the umicores!!

>>22280144
Checked.
>free bitcoin
>shady link
>randomly spammed in pmg
Not “seems”. Totally a scam.

>>22280538
He's been doing this for days I keep reporting it but mods are fags

>>22278808

>goys, sell your gold! deflation! sell now!

Is this the new strategy? Ok. Interesting.

Reminder that yearly inflation is not 2%, it is 5+% using whatever index you care to use of things you actually need to buy.

>>22279213
reminds me of the nz mint mortal kombat coin

>>22280811
It's a shame the Queen's on the other side of that.

>>22277881
Shiny boomer rocks

>>22280453
Will do this week, have my stack stashed away in a vault currently

>He sold his silver

>>22280939
Thanks!

After unfucking my silver, here’s a pic of my favorite part of my stack.

>>22278808
You deserve to miss out on future gains and it will be funny when you start chasing the price up later once the miners start skyrocketing. If you think you can time the market you're an idiot

Alright you all are more in touch with normies than I am. How many of you are planning on getting together for labor day and drinking with friends and family or something?

A surge of COVID (at the same time as flu season) that brings the v-shaped recovery into question is exactly the deflationary shock that could make PM's buyable again.

>>22277929
What does this mean for miners?

So will spot price still move on Monday because of foreign markets? I'm working on labor day but wanted to maybe make a purchase depending on what the price does in the morning...

>>22281048
You should build a lego house with your silver stacks.

>>22281503
yes. spot trading has started in the uk

>>22281229
Not me, I have like three, maybe four friends nearby, and they've all got plans and jobs and gfs and shit. I'll be all alone with my shiny boomer rocks tomorrow.

>>22281191
Well if you read my other post i'm keeping my juniors. I'm just taking some profits.


>>22280753
Why would I sell my physical stack. Miners only

>>22281983
Nothing wrong with taking profits and nothing wrong with swing trading. It’s clear we have severe volatility and I’m not convinced there won’t be another sell off. You don’t have to be first to a trade to make money off of it. Sometimes it’s wise to wait until there’s an indication that liftoff is happening. It’s not going to moon in a single day.

This 3-day weekend is really fucking up my plans.

Waiting on both ~20 weeks of PUA backpay (didn't realize I was eligible while I was unemployed) and college loans I took out last minute.

Trying to build a LIFE HERE. Shit needs to process.

>>22278251
Quality stack

>>22278088
only because you got digits

Best Canadian online retailer for coins and junk?

Also post coins and gun

>>22278251
Nice chunky bars anon

>>22278388
Both my best LCS are have exceptionally cute girls who I deal with.

If this holds true for you, you might be screwed anon...

>>22282393
>Liking SAO
At least you've got good taste in metal....

>>22282465
i already gave him shit for it, he admits SAOA is way better

>>22282449
Love krugs

>>22282449
>animu coins
Fund it!

perfectly natural market behavior

>>22277881
Hey /pmg/. New investor here, barely starting. I've been reading and doing some research and decided I want to invest in gold or silver as my first investment. I would probably be ready to pump a couple thousand into this. Silver is very enticing due to its low price (as opposed to gold).

But lo! The country I am from taxes silver! I want to go to Estonia to buy silver, or preferrably order from a country like Estonia that has no tax on silver. Does any Europoor here have any experience in this? Which bullion dealer is trustworthy/cheap? And which coins are good (and why)?

>>22279082
force majeure isnt even a factor in the price of gold right now.

We wont see a total stonk collapse, just the parts what were inflated, people who are losing there are not the people in miners/PM etfs.

gold will possibly keep testing 1900, silver 26, but both have really strong support and will be bought near or below that right back up.

At this point all it takes is a small increase in demand for physical in either, and that can come from a lot of places. Lots of people are going to be moving their money out of the falling sectors in stocks into PMs and undervalued sectors.

Smart money already knows USD or any FIAT is not the place to be holding your money right now.

>>22282449
>>>22281815
>that pic that I literally found this yesterday and posted has now been made into a coin
love it.

>>22282499
>>22282465
Don't ask me why but I'm still watching. At least there's no fucking man that is clearly drawn as a woman. So sick of them putting traps in anime, I blame VN's.

>>22282576
>At least there's no fucking man that is clearly drawn as a woman.
DYEWTS? that's like half the plot of SAO2 is "lmao kirito look like gamer grill so get special treatment"

>>22280811
such a nice coin, but its over 100 leaf bux and the reptile onthe other side isnt as cool.

>>22282499
>>22282465
yeah it is def just a fun one to have on in the background, I really dont watch much TV but its ... appropriate to have on with my kid around vs what I actually want to watch.

>>22282576
yeah anon, I linked that pic yesterday and some nice anon put it on a coin for,

PMG anons have been good to me, someone made this one for me as well.

>>22282401
what caliber anon?

Should I sell my PC setup for silver?

wheelie bois reporting in

>>22282663
It's a model 17, so .22lr. I love it

>>22282551
Coins often have margin tax in EU instead of high vat applicable to bars. Currently the 1 oz bullion coins are the most interesting in the EU. Some popular/reputable coins with some of the popular shops and real time prices comparison can be found on https://eu.compare.pm/silver

>>22277966
These dubs repel chubby chasers

>>22282576
>anime girls
>in the bathroom
proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

>>22279584
Based FM bar

>>22282661
>appropriate to have on with my kid around vs what I actually want to watch.
Except for the forced rape scene that is in literally every season for no reason
At least you recognize it for the low-quality it is though.
Basically the anime version of potato chips or something. Very bland and generic, unoriginal, but EZ to consoom a bunch

>>22279559
Terrible bait.

>>22278958
Will?

>>22282551
Two of the main ones for yuros are in the OP; S2G and European Mint are both your Estonian non-VAT sellers. There are others but the ones the OP lists are reliable and between them are usually closest to spot.
As for what to buy, the simplest advice is just get whatever semi-known coin is closest to spot - if you're buying for metal, only go for metal. Coins like >>22280811 seem nice since they carry a higher premium for collectors; but in practicality you need to know what you're doing to make the most from them and they have lower liquidity. Your common coins are basically onces from any mint in the Anglosphere (ASE, Maples, Britannias, Krugies, Philharms and Roo/Koala/Crocs/Kooks). The only exception to this rule is if you're specifically a bong - in which case, it's often worth more to spend a tad bit more for specifically Britannias, since you do not pay any tax on them once you sell (since they're legal tender)
Hope that answers your questions.

I ought to just make a newfag pastebin, but I'm so fucking busy making shit for my other lurks. Alas the woe of the NEET

>>22278088
Hoping to not be poor soon

>>22282564
Speculation about force majeure absolutely is / was a factor, due to silver (and also platinum / palladium) - the fact that they now have double the sources (especially suddenly now Chinese precious metals) makes force majeure in the short term *extremely* unlikely (removing a bullish factor)

I think they will too, as we saw the Ohio police & fire pension just do - but I think it will take time for them to do so (a good bit of time to run red)

In the short run (until probably Fed meeting) I don't see it breaking the current bounds = crab

>>22282806
Silver coins have a 22% vat where I live. Gold is tax free but silver is cucked here. Thanks for the link though, will check.
>>22283020
Thank you for the detailed answer! That answers most of my questions. I'm not from the UK but thank you for making that specification anyways. Would you recommend newer coins over older ones? I read that newer coins have lower premiums for some reason. Also: should I go to Estonia to buy the coins myself or should I just have them mail the stuff to me? Is it worth the convenience and speed in your opinion?

>>22282928
ehh I wouldnt put it down that far, maybe its just because the theme is one I really like. Its all personal taste really. Anime in general is potato chips, just different flavours really.

I literally cannot remember any rape scenes from SOA though, I dont take any anime outside of ghost in the shell or ninja scroll very seriously.

Shill me some stuff on GITS or NS level and ill watch it.

>>22283175
You might be able to make the argument that people are speculating on force majeure, but I dont think you can back it up with enough evidence to support it being a major driver.

Regardless, I maintain the position that comex default is 100% not needed to moon metals, it certainly could happen, but I doubt it, there is endless FIAT for them to give out instead of metal.

There are much more significant, and numerous factors, like growing unrest, distrust in governments in general and fiat in particular. Your average house wife is very much noticing her grocery bill going up, along side quality being lowered, and packaging being edited to reduce quantity while trying not to appear as such.

Crabbing is for sure one of the likely outcomes, I cant tell what will happen either. I feel like it will crab, or if it moves, it will move a lot. This coming week in stonks will give a lot of sense of direction I think, as will the next fed meeting and european announcements.

>>22282772
hey there! we missed you the last time I posted my artwork

>>22283271
Have you seen Afro Samurai? Very good dumb action seinen with Samuel L Jackson in double main role (does two voices) and Ron Perlman as the villain

>>22283384
What kind of foreign silver is that on the top left?

generic silver vs ase/brittania?

>>22283262
New vs Older doesn't really matter; you can strike it lucky with some old coins if they're collectable (and thus get a higher premium), but at the same time when you buy newer coins, you usually get a full set of the same year (which over time can also gain a premium for collectors). Either/Or is fine, just get as close to spot as you can.
As for travel, if you're up for it I guess you can do collections in person, in which case you can calculate how much fuel it's going to run you (there+back) and any other extra expenses - most people just go through a logistics service for postage (they'll charge slightly more upfront since it's handling precious materials and you'll pay VAT on the postage itself, but the metal you're paying for will stay completely VAT free). Usually just paying for postage is the simpler option (especially with how it can look on the surface if you're running thousands worth of PM across international borders), just make sure to make one large order in that case so you're not continually paying for postage on small orders.

>>22283445
I have watched some, couldn't get through it, thought it was terrible.

Pootie tang is the only blacksploitation movie worth watching, but it is 100% worth it, you will thank me.

>>22283451
Some canadian 1/2's from 1940's/50's and a lira, cant remember which country off hand its this one though

>>22283451
I think the small one at the bottom right is italian lire (monarch of italy?). the rest are canadian 50c and maybe a quarter.

>>22283271
How about that time Asuna was almost raped by the tentacles? Or the time she was almost raped by that scummy antagonist in that elfshit season? Or that time Shinon was almost raped? Or in that Alicization episode (like 10 iirc) they go further than ever before and have the girls tied up on the bed with half-naked dudes about to molest them (before they are brutally murdered)

>>22283502
>Pootie tang is the only blacksploitation movie worth watching
>not knowing about black dynamite
NGMI

>>22283555
Oh shit, forgot about that one, it was fucking awesome, thank you for reminding be with your awesome trips sir!

>>22283060
Based

>>22283493
Thank you again for spoonfeeding a newfag. So I should just buy the cheapest available 1 oz coin with .999 purity? Or is there some kind of risk associated in going all in on one kind of coin? Should I allocate on silver coins? I've seen pics on this thread of anons flexing with all kinds of silver coins. Or is that just for novelty/collector premium sake?
I'll have to think it over whether I'll buy online. I always try to cut down on costs when possible but you being up a good point on the optics of buying in person and going through luggage check. No idea whether I'll be accused of tax evasion or something, serious crime over here lemme tell ya. Bigger sentences than from murder. Might not be worth the headache.

>>22283549
I have seen so much animated/film/IRL violence that my mind just auto filters it at this point anon.

>>22282551
im not sure which country you're from anon but ive used silver-to-go a couple times and its been fine, vat-free on silver coins

>>22278088
Started stackin last month

>>22283416
Saved

>>22283681
Finland.
Another anon recommended Silver-to-Go to me as well. I'll compare its prices with European Mint and make a decision based on that I guess

>>22283655
not same anon but right now ive been accumulating ASE's and Britannias (cause im a bong and they're CGT free here). iirc ASE's carry a slightly higher premium over other coins but you can expect to liquidate all sovereign coins slightly above spot price.

I have a collection of philharmonics, krugerrands, Britannias, a few pandas, maples and ASE's personally but an ounce of silver is an ounce of silver, I buy different ones for the designs.

this is a noob question but do the dates on a coin matter, coin or gold bar?

>>22283384
Just curious, what is the highest probability scenario where metals gain significant value? I see the arguments for unrest, failing government, stagflation, and hyperinflation, but I have a hard time giving any of those enough credibility.

Its seems the more likely case is just secular stagnation, in which case we'd want cash + bonds until monetary policy is rewritten.

The 3rd case is inflation proceeds as planned, economy and GDP recover miraculously due to current policies, so equities +++.

>>22283704
Great start and welcome aboard anon

>>22283782
im in a rush to get a final order in with them before Brexit fucks me over completely kek.

ive never used Europeanmint but I know YouTuber 'backyard bullion' does massive group orders from their site so id hazard a guess and say they're legitimate

>>22283818
Someone said in earlier thread pm do poorly during deflation but I don't understand why

>>22283416
wtf why is a picture of silver being deleted

>>22283782
also I noticed you said you were gonna drop a few thousand in pm's? id suggest buying at least 1/4 ounce gold as well

>>22283818
>what is the highest probability scenario where metals gain significant value?

The scenario we have currently been in for 50+ years... any scenario where FIAT is currency results in PM's, at the very minimum, preserving purchasing power, if not vastly increasing it if bought during their undervalued stage (which we are still in).

We pumping boys?

>>22282661
>PMG anons have been good to me, someone made this one for me as well.
Heh glad to help, i'll be posting my full stack next bread, its a full day job just taking it out of the safe and putting it back in.
This was my first attempt of making a coin in photoshop, if I got time next week ill actually try to make something half decent.

>>22283839
Deflation means you can buy more with 1$ tomorrow than today, so you are inclined to save it. It will be worth more, risk free.

PMs may go up in down in value during deflation, but you'd be less inclined to hold it because the price doesn't move up risk free.

>>22283555
>not knowing about I'm gonna git you sucka>>22283600

>>22283060
>has approximately 400-500 oz of silver.
You're not poor now.

I wanna make a Godzilla coin.

>9000 hours in mspaint
breddy gud
thanks fren

>>22283787
Why not just stack Britannias a lot? The tac benefit is huge isn't it?
>>22283827
Alright good. I hope you manage to get a good order before brexit.
>>22283882
Noted. Thankfully that will be easier since I can just walk into a bullion provider without worrying about tax.

>>22282528
I should kikestarter some shit like this and charge a $100 bucks an ounce for thirsty neck beards

>>22283999
checked and nice AF
>>22278088
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>>22283704

rappaporting in

WTFWT

>>22278088
at work right now here's an older pic

>>22283788
Checked. some dates do matter either of design or low mintage years could increase value above metal price.

>>22284120
all you need, is some experience in a cad, machine or find someone who will machine you the dies, a nice press either manual or automatic, get some silver blank coins or make then yourself, and then set your own premium.

>>22282772
just celebrated my mums birthday with family, played cards, up till final round when i finished negative after losing final hand , will post old picture of stack, and drink more wine.
wine makes it very difficult to win poker hands, don't drink anons

weeeeeeeeeeeee back up it goes

>>22284120
>"henlo? coin master?"
>"am calling my bishoujo coins?"
>"moshi moshi"

>>22284212
whisky>wine

>>22284244
fair enough but I need to be able to walk away from a card game with my family and not pass out on the table

>>22284075
Then why do I feel poor then? I'll barely be able to afford a yacht after the happening

>>22282596

>>22284212
tits
and belly

>>22284190
Still never played that ddlc shit
it must be very important to you?

>>22284339
Just Monika.

I just completed my 2nd pre 1981 penny roll. I have 102 copper pennies and 4 wheat pennies and 2 bronze canadian pennies.

I know its worthless but its fun to collect. Maybe one day when silver hits $1000 and gold hits $100,000 copper will hit $10

>>22283919
I'm not seeing the clear trend in preserved purchasing power. You could argue that equities preserve purchasing power, sometimes, just as well over the last 50 years.

>>22282551
Alright. I think I'll buy 100 silver cangaroos and a single 1/4 or 1/2 oz gold coin. I still have to think it over since my inner Jew hates to part with half of my bank account balance but that's a nice amount that would benefit from a lot from growth. Thank you /pmg/

Totally new and just want to buy a couple coins/small bars for the novelty of owning real gold and silver. Someone told me Canadian coins/bars are better/safer to buy, but why?

>>22284296
You're not poor. You're just not rich either.

>>22284487
No problem skeleton fren! Stay safe out there!

>>22284489
canuck coins are .9999 compared to ASEs which are .999, also there's a lot more counterfeit ASEs floating around

>>22284489
>>22284549
Not only are the Canadian coins more pure but they also tend to be cheaper. Also they usually have some kind of anti counterfeiting measures (no idea how well that works) while the ASE is, realistically, probably the most faked coin there is.

>>22278088
>>22278178
>>22278251
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>>22284194
what should I add next metalor kg or a tube of 14 x 2 oz maple krakens

I wanna see a 5$ whipsaw with 7$ worth of movement inside an hour

Awaiting my first "bulk" order of silver from SD.
>20 generic 1 oz coins
>1 ASE
>20 coin tube

On top of that is the 4 generic oz I own, a handful of mercs, 2 franklin halves, and some gems from when I was a jeweler. Think I may just go to junk silver from here on out until the premiums on fine come down a bit. Good strategy?

>>22284777
TRIPS CONFIRMED
>777 BABY

>>22284777
c-checked..

>>22284549
>>22284615
Appreciate the advice. The higher purity and lower price and lower counterfeit risk seems like a no brainer

>>22284777
Thanks for the sale, anon!

>>22284777
Hoo boy

>>22278277
I day dream of one day being a uranium stacker. I know it's impossible, and it can literally kill you with radiation.

>>22284750
I've vowed to not buy any more stuff with the queen on it
That being said, the kraken is an interesting round

i like having smaller quantities for trade, so I guess if only those 2, the krakens

>>22279584
I need to buy 100oz from FM soon. Love how much Keith hates the comex.

>>22284750
Kraken is a great round, if its only a buck or so more then the cheapest generic per oz go for it... but really Id just stack for weight rather then pure meme value.

Lot of boomers I know trying to sell their "NOT GENERIC THIS IS COLLECTABLE" silver for 55$+ to recoup their premium, and their shit is not sold many months later, while generics for 1$-3$ over spot are gone in hours. (CAD$)

>>22284777
you may get your wish anon.

>>22285201
I'm willing to pay an extra dollar or two for meme rounds, but fuck if I'd ever try to charge a premium for them. They're literally worth their weight in silver and not much more.

That is, except for my bat boi. You'll need to pay me a bit more to have me part with him.

Should I sell all my batbois since they go for like 200 each, and buy ASE's instead?

>>22285307

No, what?

2020 has been such a wild ride, and the "batsoup" meme is never going to go away and will only become more well known. You don't think a coin MINTED in 2020 with some corona-bats on it won't pull a small fortune in a decade or so?

>>22278224
Dude. One ounce of silver is a meal for two at a average restaurant. I guess it could also buy you a sac of potatoes and a bag of rice.

>>22285287
some stuff does sell for more, silver bullet silver shield and other good designs can sell for 50-100oz cad

guys the online websites literally look like a golden carepackage. how will that not be stolen?

>>22285307
>>22285342
You can buy one for less than $200 atm. Out of all the silver I own, this one has the best chance of being worth more than its physical weight. I'm willing to hold onto it for long after I sell the rest of my silver.

>>22285103
lookup the madlad on youtube codyslab he does it but keeps the ore surrounded by lead bricks and stored away from his home

what should I sell SILJ and buy? Kinda doing shitty compared to even the other mining etfs. maybe bayhorse?

>>22285387
Pay the standard $5 for postage insurance you cheapo

When is McEwin expected to open up and start producing?

>>22278088

>>22285426
love that guy he had video on how to make enriched uranium before the 1st youtube purge where he had to remove a bunch of his videos because possible not family friendly. also I believe he also states in that video basically if you put the uranium in storage surrounded by a ton of mass its relatively safe to store.

>>22285484
sell SILJ and buy physical

>>22285543
already have it mr faggor

>>22285564
moar

>>22285426
>>22285426
Big fan of cody here. He's gonna wind up a national celebrity one day. Either in an insane death involving mining with a self made nuke, or him actually going to mars like he dreams of.

Godspeed you magnificent bastard. Godspeed.

>>22285590
my money is on mining accident

Bought 100 oz of silver today
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>22285103
You'll be fine as long as you don't eat it. You really have to worry about the toxicity more than the radiation. Natural uranium isn't very radioactive until you put it in a nuclear reactor and split those long-lived uranium nuclei into spicy new fission products.
>>22285426
He actually got raided by the NRC after that video, they told him not to do it again and confiscated anything that made their geiger counters click

>>22285540
I'm no expert but I don't think mass matters in storing uranium, you need dense material, like lead

Two things:
1. Should I focus more on silver dollars or fine silver?
2. Anybody got the picture of the dragon pepe on a pile of precious metal?

>>22285640
Mass is all that matters. Density just lets you put more mass in a reasonable thickness.

>>22277966
your taste in women reveals you as an obvious homosexual.

and yes. i bought both silver and gold. much more than you. much earlier and cheaper than you got yours.

I've noticed that my lcs carries Asahi Coins instead of Sunshine Mint. Anyone heard what happened to them recentl?

>>22285711

>>22285642
>silver dollars
do you mean 1oz silver pieces?

the good thing about 1oz pieces is that they are usually fungible (all pieces are basically the same and interchangeable) and that makes trade easier

My recommendation is to go with low premium government created 1oz silver pieces because they are recognizable, and easy to buy and sell.

So this is off topic...but it is pic related: I have an extensive gem collection. Where can I sell gemstones (mostly roughs, cabs and cuts of rare (eg horsetails)and common (eg welo black opal) type gems) in exchange for crypto? Would it be worthwhile making them NFTs? But then people might sell the gem in real world and sell the nft to someone else.. so don't think nft would work. Where can I sell them for bitcoin or crypto?

>>22285135
I love Keith. He is the only reason I haven’t rotated out of my AG position.

>>22285642
buy the cheapest .999+ silver you can find. fuck what it looks like. aesthetics and "premium" PM's are a big time bait.

>>22285738
No I mean 90% US silver dollars.

>>22284750
As another anon said, if you get a good deal on the Krakens, go for it. Otherwise, pick up the kg. I have a few Krakens and they are worth picking up some for a collection, but I wouldn’t get a tube over something cheaper unless it was a good deal.

>>22282968
Not bait, fren. I just fucked up. But I only shared my embarrassment in the hopes that if someone else was as retarded as me, that the toothpaste trick actually worked. That was for the benefit of you. If you ever find yourself in my shoes in the future, we’ll, recall my retarded post and what worked and hopefully it unfucks your silver too.

>>22283060
Very nice. I have yet to get some of the new Provident bars. Really like the design on those.

>>22278165
$3 is hopium.

The price of paper silver contracts is going to $0

Why do people buy silver and gold coins over regular bars? Is it because it’s a collectible? What is the resale like because I’d assume it’d be easier to sell metals for face value

>>22284152
That’s a fat stack mein nugga

How are things everyone? I finally have this stupid cable setup done on my Canyon claim, and now I can focus on actually mining it. Heres the first pan today from surface gravels in the woods by the creek. I also got 3 grams out of 10 5 gallon buckets run through a highbanker. Absolutely stunning results!

>>22286164
hows bayhorse panman?

>>22285748
You might find the odd person at a gem fair who'll pay for your stones with crypto, otherwise just advertise your gems on Etsy and advise that you want to be paid with crypto, buyer just picks other for purchase method and you email them your link.

>>22286176
Bayhorse is a great junior to invest with. Their stable, have an operating small scale high grade silver mine and are exploring a very nice larger scale high grade resource called Brandywine that could be easy to build down the line into an open pit operation. There currently one of my favorites.

>>22278088
Psst, hey anon
Wanna prep the BHLL?

>>22284777

Price will hit $20 on Tuesday and be over $30 by Wednesday.

Checkem

Posted this earlier, posting it again. I still have three Countries to fill out, I'll have them done by tomorrow. Hopefully I can figure out how to format it better too.

>>22286395
epic fail
cringe!

>>22286256
Hello PAN MAN,

What do you think Rick Rule's rankings? Bayhorse doesn't seem to be rated that high.

Do you think those are rated more with an eye for conservative past performance results?

>>22286256
Hello PAN MAN,

What do you think Rick Rule's rankings? Bayhorse doesn't seem to be rated that high.

Do you think those are rated more with an eye for conservative past performance results?

>>22278088
check'd

>>22278088
We're
So
Clooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

>>22286503
I've been comparing with a previous poster and identical results leads me to think this process is totally automated. Perhaps those ratings were created somewhat in the past and never updated at all

That theory will lead to the idea that sprott's ranking page is more for collecting potential investors for their products than to provide good investing advice

>>22286422
Put names next to the dates please, otherwise it's really difficult to tell the difference between colours

>>22286503
those are pretty good assessments for these companies. Does he discuss his methodology for these rankings anywhere? I am honestly not in the best state of mind to be looking into this sort of stuff right now, I ve been up and down a cliff all day. I do like some of these descriptions hes put next to some of my favorites like Dolly Varden.

I will say though I can understand why Bayhorse is currently lower down on the list, its due to it being too small. The company is hyper streamlined and cost effective because their margins are tight, and their style of underground mining focuses on only the best of the best ore to work.

>>22279467
this did not explain what buckshot is at all, are you talking about literal silver shotgun pellets? wtf is silver buckshot and how do people get "scammed" with it??

>>22286556
I could make a simple list of names and dates, but it may be hard to fit in one image, Pic very much related.

>>22286422
dude for the amount of work youput into that it is unreadable..

just put the last two digits IE 1966 put 66 labeled on the country itself, or near it with an arrow.

reallyhard to read it, you worked hard its almost there tho

>>22286691
Thanks, I'll have a higher resolution image by tomorrow. Might be able to label a few Countries, but some will still be too small.

>>22286739
Dude, organize them by date ascending and put the hues in order.

>>22286424

My bad. I guess it's $15 Tuesday $50 by Friday

>>22286771
lmao for real that kid has obviously never worked a day in his life

>>22286670
it's buckshot that's made of silver

>>22278526
Most important of all, visit various web sites such as APMEX, JM Bullion, etc. and have a rough idea of how much things should cost. Also, know what the spot prices are for gold and silver.

>>22286771
The hues need to contrast, if they were in order you'd have a bunch of countries with very similar colors right next to each other. The problems with organization, formatting and readability will all be worked out tomorrow, hopefully.

>>22286901
It’s called a gradient and it actually conveys a significant amount of information

>>22286901
Right, but if you put them in gradient order from red being the oldest to green being the most recent, you'll wind up with a much more readable chart.

>>22286422
The color should just be on the scale of Dark red (Earliest year) ------------> Bright green (Latest) so people can intuitively get the message ("Oh dark countries got rid of silver first") without having to figure out what each color means

>>22282615
And it ain't even the cool Reptile, either...

>>22286944
>>22287095
>mfw /pmg/ gets things done

>>22286944
>>22286952
>>22287095
A gradient would turn places like Eastern Europe into a mass of barely contrasting shades of the same color. I'll try it anyway, but I don't think the result will be much more readable.

>>22287178
Yeah it's fine. We don't actually care about the actual year of each country. On a map people just like to see a general trend/information and compare with other countries.

Anyways thanks for the work.

>>22278088

>>22286739
There is not a single country on that image that is both too small to fit two digits, or to crowded to put two digits, with an arrow pointing to its relevant country.

>>22287142
>didnt notice that was part of my pun
>didnt notice the triple entendre since reptile is both a character, and the dragon side is also a reptile

many layers here

>>22279559
Next time, use 1 part baking soda (10g), 2 parts table salt (20g), 20 parts water (200ml), and a strip of aluminum foil if you're mixing in a glass-like container. Tarnish turns back into silver within seconds once the bar/round is submerged and on the foil.

What's a good place to get copper from?

>>22287333
worksite skips

>>22287333
pennies, remember anon, copper is always the tertiary monetary metals used by the peasant class, why not have some?

>>22287333
Unironically jogging, there are so many abandoned properties floating around that you could probably make pretty good money by stripping buildings illegally.

>>22285737
Momoko!? H-hey...

I tested out some improvements on Europe. Still a few kinks with formatting.

>>22287333
unironically the trash... take a hammer, screwdrivers, pliers, and go through big bins, you will get pounds of copper.

>>22287493
Lol while you're definitely not wrong, this is some crackhead tier shit to do.

>>22287541
If you use yellow, orange, bright green, etc I don't think you have to use those tertiary colors (blue purple), which only confuse people because they expected a simple intuitive Green --------> Red gradient

Anyways it''s getting much better

>>22287541
Now put the brightness of the colors go from darkest at the bottom to brightest on top, and you'll be good.

>>22286552
>That theory will lead to the idea that sprott's ranking page is more for collecting potential investors for their products than to provide good investing advice

I do not have a good opinion of Sprott at all in some aspects. I have a lot of shares of PHYS because there was a hostile takeover of the Central Gold Trust. While I feel that Sprott is not going to literally steal money, their fees are higher than what the Central Gold Trust were. Sprott was even willing to pay me money to tender my shares into their offer.

As for Rick Rule, he may be a good guy but he just looks like a crook, which is a really bad thing in the mining industry because there are so many crooks. What do the ratings mean? Is a 1 rating bad and a 10 rating good? It's odd that Rule rates PHYS as a 4. Is he talking about expected returns? Potential returns? He's evidently not talking about quality because PHYS is about as safe as things get short of physical possession or gold allocated in your own name.

>>22287609
Thanks. You can really distinguish the three different groups of Countries, those that debased in the aftermath of WWI, those that debased as a result of WWII and the leadup to it and those that debased in the 60s and 70s.

>>22277920
I have to say, there is nothing more awesome than hopping on /biz/ after a period of inactivity and seeing the first reply being a snapshot of something I contributed. I'm glad some people found value in it. Just proves how much we as contributors can help effect change if we simply share. Made my day anon.

>>22277920
COMEX is more like the guy that sells the leather for the shoes, if they go belly up then the shoe companies follow suit soon or they go to international leather dealers who charge a shitload driving prices up

>>22287541
You don't need to put a name on each country, just put it next to the year. We can then figure out if (for example) purple means Switzerland or Chile

Here's the Americas with a much more uniform gradient.

WTFWT

>>22277966
fuck off already, faggot

>>22288135
Did you buy silver though, or gold

>>22288135
>1 post by this ID

>>22286422
Just make the image much larger and put the year direct to the country. How the hell can I tell what colour goes where?

how many kraken rounds and asahi bars should I buy?

>>22288264
Do you already own any silver or gold ?

>>22288280
i own the silver
like 50 oz

>>22288001
So what you are saying is that silver is money and it wasn't a long time since silver was used as money before this great geh experiment?

>>22286422
>all those different colors

I appreciate the idea and effort but still this is a terrible way of doing it

Looking to buy my first ounce of gold, and was wondering if anyone uses credit cards with high cash back and rewards to recoup some if not most of the premium. My card is 1%, so I'll get $20 back from 1oz. Any one do this and know how to optimize the system?

>>22288001
That's great! I like how you even stuck with labeling and giving a unique color to every year. Didn't expect that much effort.

>>22288226
Based street shitting chinese bebby

>>22288001
Needs the countries listed alongside the colour legend imo

>>22288001
..Although I would say the darkest colors usually represent the extreme opposite ends (vs how the darkest red and green meet in the middle in this map)

>>22278526
he's going to fuck it up

>>22288581
Darkest green = latest to drop silver

Darkest red = earliest to drop silver

>>22288563
I've expiremented with the software some more and I believe that listing the names beside the years shouldn't destroy the formatting like I previously thought. I'll have an better organized version for the whole world ready sometime tomorrow.

>>22288643
take your time bro it's good.

>>22288656
You're right, it's probably too late for me to be obsessing over design choices and potential improvements for my map.

>>22288719
It's never too late to be making improvements mate, once it's out there it's out there, so do your best first time, or give me the data and I'll do it

>>22277881
The best deal for a gold bullion in Germany is a recycled gold bullion that meets the standard 999.9 tho. Is it trustworthy? Or should I spend a little extra for some established bullion from a bank?

>>22289014
Is it from a legitimate business?

>>22288822
I'll do it, I just need some rest, I've been awake close to a day now.

>>22289046
Drink plenty of water and dream of some nice Germanias anon, you've earned it.

>>22289033
yeah i think lmba certified

>>22278088
I just have one of these bad boys in a vault somewhere

Is there a difference between poured gold (in german Gussbarren) and embossed? Sorry for my autism, i just want to hit all checkmarks before buying a little rock for 5000 euros.

The gold fields of AVSTRLIA...

>>22289167
Do you really own it, or is it a IOU certificate?

Reminder SLV doesn't even own the silver. They just "track" the price of silver

>2500oz of silver
im not gonna make it boys

>>22278088
Hello

>>22289428
F

>>22289239
WA by the looks

>>22281048
based vreneli stacker, i have 12 of them but saly nowadays they demand a 4-6% premium which i am not willing to pay when i can get other coins for >1.5%

>>22286670
silver. buck. shot. kills. vampires.

>>22277920
So should I be buying puts on comex futures?

>>22277881
First time baker calling in

>>22289618
Rip it lotto, rip it baby, rip it

>>22289341
its unallocated storage at Perth Mint, they always keep a 1:1 supply for accounts

>>22282551
estonia does have VAT on silver, i live here
coins are not taxed but have premium

>>22289720
>>22289720
>>22289720

>>22286535
if you don't own at least one of these coins do you really even own silver?