/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>22021575
u really think deco will roll out a usable stable and secure product within 6 months?

>>22021613
I think the reason staking is next up for the team is that they need collateral guarantees for the nodes running deco.
I think both will be live on the network by the end of the year, before arbitrum is live in Q4.

>>22021575

>>22021743
Not sure if it's possible to be more comfy

>>22021613
6-12 mos and yes. Fuck ya boys i fucking love Chainlink. We are going to be rich as fuck.

1000 is FUD add a 0 or two to that bitch

>>22021575
I agree with OP

>>22021909
I’ve got a couple of ideas but this is peak with or without those things.

>>22021575
>>22021988
Thanks. I’m not selling a single fucking linkie now.

>>22021988
>>22021992
>>22022014
We've reached the point where it is more likely than not that all of the following are true:
- Smart contracts will become the dominant form of digital agreement globally
- Chainlink will own the majority or the entirety of the smart contracts ecosystem
- This ecosystem of value transfer will have more value than the existing internet of non-validated data

That non-validated internet is worth 24tn

>>22022075
I hope you understand how hard that will be over the next 6 months.

>>22021909
thanks anon.

a lot of people will gloss over this and not really realise that any stress or anxiety in their present situation is only temporary. In fact they should be discarded because of what is in store for us, enjoy the moment, relax and know something good is coming for all of us.

>>22022235
floor EOY price prediction?

>>22022235
Why will it be hard exactly?

>>22022235
Why would it be hard to not sell? We have waited for this moment for 3 years we are just getting started

>Token not needed
>Priced in
>Nothingburger scam marketing conference
Price goes down

>>22022235
I got in just below $5 and I’ve been in perma-profit ever since. Unironically if it drops, I’ll just buy more.

Imagine buying this and not the ultimate meme token - yearn.finance.fucktoken (YFFT). Literally put in an eth and watch it catapult 50x by next week when dumb whales pick it up

https://uniswap.exchange/swap/0x66C6c0d07bE512e28e831Bd0862837455Ac00d4a

>>22022379
and when it drops below 1.7 with heavy volume, will you keep buying?

>>22021909
How about now?

>>22022401
I won’t be selling.
I hope.

ABANDON THIS THREAD the discord trannies have entered the chat >;0

>>22022390
wow, nice ad. basséd sony

>>22022494
You will, everybody does, you will not sell all if you have some balls, but probably you already had them removed

>>22021575
>We're all gonna make it.
I only have 4000 LINK and won't make it
>t.nulinker retard who was here in 2018 but didn't buy because he got burned in 2017 and didn't believe and only ended up buying 2020

>>22021575
So you're saying they dumped on us, and bought TownCrier all for nothing?

>>22022280
We should, but I'll be honest: I can't. We are truly in uncharted territory at this point.
>>22022311
>>22022359
>>22022494
Think about it logically: Link is about to become a network on which business runs. Even institutional investors will eventually catch on.
Know all those glowing Forbes articles about link and sergey? They could easily turn into just-barely-not-defamatory negative stories for 6 months for the right price. Sorry to be honest, but Forbes is a pure pay for play rag at this point, as is maybe 90% of the rest of the media, again for the right price.
What about if AOC or Mazie Hirono (or both) introduce legislation to designate link a hate network because so many white men own it? Even if it doesn't pass, it would drop the price a lot overnight. And buying one or both of them is way cheaper than paying a 10% premium on acquiring 10mm links in 6 months time.
And greyscale will eventually need to launch a product
And other gen 1 chains, in a desperate effort to stay relevant, will need to buy and wrap Link to keep afloat.

Literally none of those smart, powerful people are going to be happy if you're holding, especially if you bought for 5% of the price they're looking at.
Prepare to get shook.

>>22022660
Ari is getting filthy rich with every "product" he sells to Sirgay to keep the perception of Link being legit. Why do you think he took a sabatical

>>22022665
>>>/pol/

>>22021575
I want to give you a kiss, OP.

>>22021613
Didn't they already make a useable product last year? This is just the fold into chainlink

>>22022665
supposedly Sergey made a call to coindesk and had them pull down a story a few weeks ago that was poorly researched and read in a defamatory fashion. I don't think he will be tolerating any more garbage-tier FUD at this stage in the project.

I wonder if they’re trying to get it all timed together - deco, staking, and arbitrum all ready to roll at the same time

>>22022950
also there's no purpose for greyscale to launch an investment product with link. It might be beneficial to them as an investment but they are not going to get a single link from Sergey unless it is strictly for node operation. I doubt they will be able to shake enough weak hands to get the amount they need.

If this is true, then why have only a small minority of people realized this? Why aren't top executives at Intel rushing to buy up Link tokens to be major players in the network? Why aren't all kinds of software executives dumping equities to scoop up Link tokens?

>>22022665
OP is the same person who wrote this post. Imagine taking any of this seriously. It's all so tiresome. I hope link keeps going up, but It's all exhausting at this point. Nothing has been accomplished and the can just keeps getting kicked farther and farther.

Been telling everyone here go and watch the presentations. It was a life changing event to be honest. Never had so much confidence wish it was cheaper would buy more but already have 50k.

>>22022401
are you insane?

>>22022625
>You will, everybody does
Maybe you do you weak faggot, stop projecting.

>>22023253
How was your life changed?

>>22023283
I was ready to sell for 1M when we hit $20. I’ll never sell now at least for a long time. Their vision was my vision and I’m in it to see it come to life and contribute

>>22022976
They have to. Those solutions are all interdependent on each other.

>>22021575
2086 cant come soon enough

>>22023283

I'll answer. The thought that around $20-$30 might be the top for 5-10 years and we will crab around that and I'll be in purgatory has been at the back of my mind for the past month. Back in 2017 I hoped for $20 and thought it would come, but my dream was for $50, $100, $500, etc.

After the conference, that bad thought has been squashed. I know what I have. At the VERY least, Link will be hundreds of dollars in the next few years. No more worries about price purgatory for me.

Keep buying all the Link you can under $100. There is NOT one comfier hold in the world.

>>22021575
This is the kind of content that I have been obsessively browsing this board for the last 2 years for.

>>22023433
Easy moonboy

>>22022950
Any link for this or copy of original article?
Given their attitude towards 4chan/twitter it sounds out of character for the team
>>22022976
It would make me happy, but I think it will be staking -> deco -> arbitrum
>>22023015
So you're saying that Greyscale could have massive interest from persons willing to pay a large premium (just like they currently do for eth) for link exposure but won't do it because they don't like making money?
>>22023084
>>22023176
A minority of people are active investors, a minority of that group own any crypto, a minority of that group even know about chainlink, of that group only some are buyers.
A large number of people don't buy BTC or ETH because they can't get it at Schwab, even people who work on wallst or in tech.

>>22023084
It was all announced on a Saturday.

Next week should be interesting as it makes its way through the corporate world

>>22023529

Listen you filthy fucking tranny nolinker. I've dealt with your kind for 3 years.

There were hundreds of you 2-3 years ago saying we would never see $10. You are just slow retarded copy of retards from 3 years ago. lmao

>>22021575
Based.

So much nonsense and shit itt except for OP, who today for some unknown reason, was not a faggot.

No one can estimate the price, if we could or TA was accurate we'd talk be rich, nothing can predict short term price swings, but who cares? The long term value is immense.

I'm never selling, nolinkers and swinglinkers always lose. This is the way.

>>22021575
thanks for the hopium fren, sitting on 20k and can't believe its all really happening

>>22023565
>No linker
Easy there, maggot.
Block #0133 here. Og linky stinky.
Take your meds and enjoy the Ride without craving dick from a tranny If you can, but never go Full Icarus.

Since some of you newfags and redditors are still seemingly unaware, let me spoonfeed it to you - Sergey is the former leader of 'SergsGang', a shadowy internet group that conducted ruthless pump-and-dump operations from 2014-2016. Chainlink is Sergey's most ambitious scheme to date and will make his SergsGang PNDs look like childs-play. Think about it - a $18 billion market cap wherein he personally holds 65% of the tokens. The dump to <$1 will be instantaneous and send shockwaves throughout all cryptocurrency markets.

>>22021575
>Here's the 30 second story of link
>PIVOT
>PIVOT
>PIVOT
>PIVOT
>THIS TIME IT'LL WORK HONEST

>>22023612
Based and linkpilled

>>22023617
Go to bed, simeon

>>22023084
People didn't dyor. Boomers (even tech execs) can't into technology. Too "risky" for wallstreet types, or gets laughed at when the faggot zoomer coffee grabber intern starts sperging about the 4thir.

Then you have companies like Oracle that actually get it and are positioning accordingly.

Can't tell if op is schizo or prophet but definitely based either way.

>>22023550
>Any link for this or copy of original article?
I read the article when it first came out but I did not try to archive until it had already been taken down, unfortunately. There were threads here when it first dropped, I will see if I can find one.
>So you're saying that Greyscale could have massive interest from persons willing to pay a large premium (just like they currently do for eth) for link exposure but won't do it because they don't like making money?
Obviously they have a huge interest but what I'm saying is the avenues they will have to acquire said link will be extremely limited. Sergey isn't going to sell OTC for someone to make an investment product, he will only do that if there is a contractual agreement to run nodes. This is based off my impression from studying the man for the last 3 years. He understands why Greyscale would want this but that's not the true purpose of the token. I believe he will remain very disciplined at only allocating to incentivize node operation. If GS comes up with a different scheme that involves node operation then maybe they could do it. If not, I just don't see them being able to acquire the amounts necessary for products like their ETH/BTC trusts from ordinary holders. Everyone's hands have been forged from tungsten at this point.

>>22022665
>What about if AOC or Mazie Hirono (or both) introduce legislation to designate link a hate network because so many white men own it? Even if it doesn't pass, it would drop the price a lot overnight. And buying one or both of them is way cheaper than paying a 10% premium on acquiring 10mm links in 6 months time.

>>22023433
I don’t disagree but you have to take it one year at a time or 6 months at a time. If they can deliver what they said the last two days we should be heading to 45-50 between arbitum and deco the time line for both are way sooner than I thought

>>22023481
Same here but now w the conference we don’t need biz breadcrumbs anymore those days are finally laid to rest yesterday.

>>22023883
Haha honestly watch the conference you’ll realize nobody ducking cares about that race shit that’s for plebs. Get off pol onto biz and make something w your life

>>22024014
>If they can deliver what they said the last two days
already priced in

>>22024070
Hahahahah he thinks arbitrum is full priced in

Feels like we’re gonna explode to $18 here soon

>>22024062
nah fuck that the race shit is still super important, making it for many of us is part of escaping jewish control, if there was a way to do it without money we'd all still be on pol.

>>22023612
Lmao that block wasn’t even in the ico

>>22024173
Hahaha it’s all about money. Once you start realizing all that shit is going to hold you back then you can start making it, otherwise go join them, both sides, in poverty and wage cuckery

>>22024206
I have my linkies, I'm making my money, why do I have to betray my race for that? I'd rather fund RWDS when I make it

>>22024173
There is. Going innawoods.
The point is transferring wealth to younger generations in order to achieve wider social change. Or at least it should be the point if you're a young right winger.

>>22024062
That's what I was trying to imply. OP should fuck off back to /pol/

>>22024239
Go build something fag, what do you have 50k-100k you’ll literally never make it in this world if you join that race bait bullshit

>>22024241
exactly you get it. I don't wanna go innawoods and be forgotten, except to protect my family. I'm not gonna have billions but I'll do everything in my power to help my people.

>>22024268
The funny thing about people on both sides but esp these new right wingers is their poverty tier people who can’t even pay for good dental care. Exactly what message is going to be spread by poverty looking people like that

>>22022629
You're doing better than the 99.9 percent of people that don't even know what smart contracts or chainlink is..

I'm so fucking excited for this shit

>>22022629
Are you retarded? 4K will be worth millions. 1k LINK x 4K = 4mm

>>22024268
Same
>>22024312
>>22024264
People like you are just denying objective reality. Or maybe you don't and you just hate whites, idk. But this "race baiting bullshit" is going to be the most significant issue of this century, not economic policy, not anything else.

>>22023084
You underestimate the sheer complacency and idiocy of normies. They pay someone to buy index funds, that’s it.

>>22024358
1k is a meme. Think about how you’ve felt watching link get to where it is now, multiply it by 100x more excruciating the. You get it. 100 is the first step, buy more on dips so you don’t need to experience the excruciating wait. If you only have 1k or even 4k link do you really think some poor fag can’t come in at $50 and get the same thing. Just imagine you knew about this so early and literal new fags are buying more than you

>>22024264
you sound like one of those queers who plans to live in a SEA country as a sex tourist when he makes it. have fun with that, I'm sure the thai ladyboys will be at your funeral

>>22024410
Omg the denial is so funny. Dude those poverty fags just missed out on massive wealth gain buy buying the stock market dip. Rich people always win not poverty tier people black or white there is no difference they are in poverty like what are you on about. If Trump loses they’ll be forgotten again except for minor whimpers nobody cares about poor people black or white. Just watch the conference and seee what I mean nobody that means anything in the world gives a single fuck

>>22024062
It's not what I think is important, it's what the market thinks is important. That the majority is brainwashed is not news. That those with power and means will actively manipulate the majority to attain their ends is not a ground-breaking revelation. If I'm playing for 10 year stakes, you can bet your ass I would be dropping some major-league FUD to artificially crush the price if it meant accumulating while the market is down. JPM and other banks have been doing this for precious metals for decades; they're under serious indictment right now as a result. For sure people will do this with link.

>>22023612
>#0133

dilate tranny

>>22024502
>Omg the denial is so funny
It sure is.

>>22022163
>- This ecosystem of value transfer will have more value than the existing internet of non-validated data
What is your opinion on human based oracle systems like Kleros for subjective information that Chainlink cannot handle?

>>22021735
They're still at the research phase for staking, no way they complete research, code it, test it, audit it and launch within 4 months. Not fudding, I just think it's bad to have unrealistic expectations. I think it happens mid 2021.

>>22024561
Argue the point dude. Why would anybody give a single shit about a poor person black or white they’re the same. You think you’re special now they’ll think they’re special later but they mean nothing not a single thing to the whole world. Literally pol is for children.

>>22024433
I don’t really get what you mean. Most people here have 5k-20k LINK but 4K is still a make it stack.

>>22024595
They didn’t say stake is coming that soon. But arbitrum is ready watch what Ed said, might end up being optimistic but you know who the proof layer is right

>>22024647
No I don’t disagree but why have a stack that any normie can get later. If you’re early you need to profit off that knowledge. Not wait 10 years to hit 1k or some special thing

>>22024192
Nice FUD, furfag
Dr;ns
How stupid are you anon?
Do you get triggered by noco posts too, like the little bitch you are?

>>22024592
Top 10 coin within a few years.

RSR
PNK
LINK
DOT

is the ultimate make it stack

>>22024595

they seem like they had to go back to the drawing board with staking and it is why they hired Ari directly.

Might cause a delay. Sergey said they solved basic staking, no issue, but it get surprisingly more difficult to implement staking on high value and more complicated contracts, this is why i think if they do staking soon it will be very limited, or they may just wait till they figure out through research how to do the more complex staking and release it all then.

reading between the lines, they for sure had a knock back with taking not too long ago and it wasn't as easy as they though it would be.

>>22024615
The point is that economic fetishists are wrong, it's not the most important social factor and it never was. Economics are important ofc but to think that race is totally inconsequential is a straight-up denial of what's in front of your eyes.
And why, because right wing whites are poor? That's just something you pulled out of your ass, there's a whole generation rn growing in race conflict - across all socioeconomic levels - who will have a very different opinion regarding race and a higher degree of racial conciseness compared to previous generations. You think it'll have zero political ramifications? That's retarded. It already has.

>>22024522
>What is block 133
Link really is for either the Very low or Very high iq.
Speaking of Very low, did 42 killed himself yet? He didnt take his ban from telegram very well

>>22024816
Poor people mean nothing to the world. The way you’re talking and thinking it shows your have a poor persons mentality and will wage slave Bc your mind is occupied with the stupidest shit. Same thing w black people that are poor. There is literally no difference

>>22024816
I understand his mindset, you can ignore the politics and insulate yourself from it all with wealth, and you'll probably end up wealthier doing it that way.
But why, besides living an empty unfulfilling life in pursuit of hedonism?

>>22024522
>Mooom I posted the ss from 2 threads ago
Go to Venezuela, furfag

>>22023828
Again, Greyscale provides exposure to digital assets for people/institutions who can't directly or don't want to directly hold them.
They always charge a premium for this, they don't care what the market price is. The only thing that matters is interest.
>>22024173
To put it more eloquently: a lot of us just want a level playing field. We don't want any group preferred/advantaged over another. We have confidence in our own groups morality, diligence and performance. Nobody but a bad actor should want to stand in the way of a system where people are rewarded on the basis of what they produce.
>>22024410
I think our options are simple: bond on the basis of a shared system that everyone agrees is fair or decide that fairness is impossible and regress to an ages old tribal struggle for power.
>>22024592
They are fundamentally flawed in that, at some point, they require people to act selflessly and against their own interests.
If history teaches one thing, it's that people don't do this.

>>22024863
Are you the anon that sold the house that his parents got for him, cashed in and asked them another house?

>>22024725
>rsr, pnk
seasonal pump and dumps
>Dot
eos of 2020
>Link
organized long term pump and dump that came to an end at 20

so is there a token/means to invest in Deco and Arbitrum?

>>22024943
chainlink

>>22024943
Link/ chainlink , available on many exchanges nowadays

>>22022756
eh its actually true though. I can buy forbes articles on fiverr that actually deliver. He's not at all wrong that most articles about people or companies are written by that person or company about themselves. Forbes is absolutely not genuine and should not be regarded as reputable anymore.

>t. anon who's done A LOT of online marketing and is involved in a lot of marketing communities.

Its not a hoax, you literally can buy your way into most online "news" sites. Tech crunch, Reuters, Buzzfeed, Bleacher Report, Forbes, etc is all like this, its not even a closed secret. Idk about mainstream news specifically, that's definitely above my scope/net worth, but I imagine its the same just for money.

>>22024910
I agree that was more eloquently put. meritocracy is fine, its just really frustrating when you are accused of nepotism and racism because we aren't all born with equal capabilities, and the people who cheerlead it all and make sure its blasted in the media 24/7 also happen to be the biggest practitioners of nepotism in recorded history.

>>22024910
>They are fundamentally flawed in that, at some point, they require people to act selflessly and against their own interests.
That's why there's economic incentives attached to each answer. My main question to you is how disputes that arise in subjective smart contracts (non financial) such as freelancing web work will be dealt with by Chainlink. This is one example, but it uses Augur: https://medium.com/@fluxmarket/augur-and-chainlink-got-married-at-ethberlin-4c7c36c8dbb0

I'm just trying to bridge the gap on how subjective data will be solved since Chainlink only handles objective data which is mainly used for financial smart contracts.

>>22025081
>its the same, just for more money
is what I meant to say

>>22024874
it sounds like you've never had real money, & wouldn't know how to handle having 8 figs. wealth is a mindstate

>>22024847
where is 42? I've not seen him in a while

>>22024910
>Nobody but a bad actor should want to stand in the way of a system where people are rewarded on the basis of what they produce.
Size the means of production comrade and hail the communist party. Go swing on a rope communist

>>22025133
He was in an archived thread today and revealed is identity.

>>22025133
>wouldn't know how to handle having 8 figs
If I had 8 figures I would just dump it into an S&P fund and live off the dividends...is there anything wrong with this strategy?

>>22025081
>t. anon who's done A LOT of online marketing and is involved in a lot of marketing communities.
tell me your name I want to pay a spic 50K to kill your whole family and have you watch, unironically

>>22024863
And you sound like the typical dime a dozen leftist, you know. It's much dumber to ignore the reality and future of politics entirely than be occupied by it. It's going to be important for everyone, even the very wealthy.
And you seem to miss the fact that collectives drive history. It's not relevant if some white people are poor - they can vote and they can use a gun. If they collectivize again they'll have power. You've been living in the longest decade of "peace" and you think money is the only fuel for change but you have no idea how long it'll last, and just some decades ago collectives, including poor and uneducated people, changed the world in many significant ways. Including btw becoming much richer.
>>22024874
I don't get even that because whites create more wealth. Even if you just want money you'd be interested in, for example, stopping affirmative action. Enabling whites to be prosperous again can be extremely profitable as well.
Also elites were dragged out of their mansions and executed before you know. Do these people not know history at all? Wealth only protects you to only so much. What really protects you is being a part of a strong collective.
>>22024910
Everything can be done peacefully, tribalism is not necessarily a senseless struggle for domination in my view.

Just so anons are aware, there is going to be rapid increase in LINK price soon. At smartcon they mentioned they are soon to release a second whitepaper. This whitepaper will almost certainly go into great detail about DECO + arbitrum + staking, their implementation and timelines. This will blow the price up similar to google/oracle integration announcements, expect a 50-100+% jump in a matter of hours. This isn't even a shill post, I have my LINK stack already and this board is too small to move the price anymore, I'm just trying to give late anons who think they are 'priced out' a warning before they are priced out for real. Don't say no one told you.

>>22025235
Haha rich white people that create are great. Poor ones are trash nobody cares about them. You keep missing the point. Same with poor blacks like nobody cares about them. They’re the same you literally can’t argue that Bc you’re a poor white.

>>22025087
A dispute over the 5 usd you paid a pajeet to design a website (that's shittier than what an AI will do for free in 2 yrs) is beneath the scope of what you'd use CL oracles for. Chainlink is going to be like overnight air FedEx delivery, businesses are going to pay for it...but no normie is shelling out 40 bucks to mail a birthday card to their grandmother.

>>22025198
You won't get to 9 figures that way

>>22025237
Exactly this. Link will crab for a bit for people that need to up their stacks this is the time. That white paper will drop real soon if you look at the timeline. Things are going to be moving faster now not hyperspeed but fast

>>22025313
wen u reckon dat der why pappah be dropy droppin?

>>22025313
Why are you pretending like you have any idea what anyone will use this for? Even Sergey has no idea. He said himself that he thinks that innovative use cases could be developed in the future, but no one has any idea now what any of this tech will be useful for.

>>22025198
Why dump into S&P? With defi you can make double digit returns annually, far outstripping what S&P can offer. If you are worried about exploits/hacks etc there is smartcontract insurance (nexus). You have it back to front anon, traditional finance will flow into crypto not crypto into traditional finance, if you get caught on the wrong side of the adoption gradient it will cost you.

>>22024685
>why have a stack that any normie can get later.
Maybe rich normies? I don't get what you mean.. normies aren't spending money on crypto especially during a pandemic..

>>22025312
Turning poor whites into rich whites is extremely easy. Not so easy with blacks. Not to be cliche but see happened with the German economic miracle post WW1. The issue was economic but the solution was ethnocentric. If you think it was a fluke you're wrong - it's the standard.

>>22021575
Was anything mentioned about Google? Or the excel add-in?

Anyone know when a replay will be on youtube

>>22025412
To be honest, I have no idea what defi is.

>>22025412
If you would be so kind as to recommend me what defi "index" to dump fiat into?

>>22024433
>If you only have 1k or even 4k link do you really think some poor fag can’t come in at $50 and get the same thing.
No. Normies aren't going to spend 50k or 200k in some crypto project.

>>22025537
yCRV pool on yearn. 96% APY

>>22025545
50k is poverty level shit. By the time it hits $50 it’s not some random crypto they’ll think they’re buying btc and oh it’s only $50!!!

>>22025626
Normies don't even have 1000 saved let alone 50k

>>22025418
Hahaha none of them will ever become rich they’ll always be wage cucks both of them Poor whites and poor blacks it’s Bc they’re lazy as fuck why else would they be poor in the US. Do you plan to give them all 10k links hahahahaha.

>>22025626
normies will buy 10 or 20 LINK. that's all they are interested in spending. not many people at all have 50k to spend on an investment like this. almost 0% of people.

>>22025505
No one else here does either. Just a bunch of faggots pretending it is important because all their nerd heroes just shilled it at Smart Con.

>>22025537
Hey sugar tits. Go to Synthetix.io and buy their Synth what tracks DEFI tokens. It's a combo pack of all the hottest defi projects. It's one token that represents a bunch of others so you profit from all without holding any. You'll love it.

>>22025700
You say that but then look at the stock market it’s going haywire Bc normies are going all in. They have a lot more $ than you think

>>22021575
too bad ZORA will make LINK irrelevant soon being able to provide decentralized private and reliable oracle data for free to interested parties

>>22025732
The fed is buying not the millions of unemployed retail

>>22025626
>50k is poverty level shit.
For most normies 50k is a nice 2 week vacation in some airbnb near a beach with some booze and friends. Also crypto doesn't have that great of a reputation especially with the recent bitcoin twitter hack that made headlines a few weeks ago.

>>22025081
Agree
>>22025084
If you were to ask that group they would say that they are in fact the group being victimized.
This is why we need a trust solution; no group will in fact admit that they are net negative value producers voluntarily.
>>22025087
I would view putting human subjectivity into the objective triggers of a smart contract as a flawed strategy much like putting a centralized oracle into a decentralized trustless agreement.
>>22025235
There really isn't historic precedent for a peaceful tribal struggle for domination. I wold gladly take it, but I am skeptical it is possible.
>>22025237
Unless you have direct inside info I disagree with this. Their first whitepaper was theoretic and technical with no time lines. I would expect nothing less with the next one.

>>22025395
Because fundamentally using CL oracles costs money. We aren't doing this shit for free you nigger. Low value contracts will be just fine using direct API calls or freely available onchain data.

You're not going to hire 500 nodes to confirm your agreement with a fiver pajeet. So your random dumbass "gotcha" hypothetical doesn't matter. Even if it could be easily resolved with a little thought and negotiable terms (sliding pay scale based off views of article/adsense ranking, negative feedback/complaints on page from users or poll on page, etc).

CL is still a premium service for something that can be coded for free or near free. You're paying for the security and time save building that security, something that goes out the window with a micro contract between two semi-known parties

>>22025933
>I would view putting human subjectivity into the objective triggers of a smart contract as a flawed strategy much like putting a centralized oracle into a decentralized trustless agreement.
So you don't view things like a decentralized eBay becoming used a lot? That would require a system to curate items and reject ones that are illegal for example.

>>22025732
>They have a lot more $ than you think
Yeah, but you have to take into consideration that those people have decent jobs and are making enough to be able to throw money at the stock market which some view as more safe than say cryptocurrency (for example that dave portnoy guy). People aren't going to put money into an obscure project especially something they don't understand like a decentralized oracle.

>>22025846
the fed is not pumping tsla lmao

>>22025956
I’m not making a “gotcha,” I’m literally saying that there are no current use cases for smart contracts. Maybe someone will think of something in the future but there are literally no currently-devised plans for how to use this technology. You’re just pretending there are tons of people lined up waiting for Chainlink to finish what they’re working on so that that can use it. It’s only being used for Defi right now which is nonsense crypto derivatives.

I see people here and writing it will be hard to time it but who said the product isn't done/close to done?
The presentation made it sound like it was already and the Chainlink Labs will be revolutionary.
Or did I miss something?
I thought the point was to incorporate it into current chainlink infrastructure

>>22025967
Jesus Christ. Chainlink’s goal isn’t to make a decentralized eBay. This is what I’m talking about. Even the people here don’t even have the slightest clue about any of this technology.

>>22024014
The team is further along than people know. Ari joines the team in January and has been working since then. Remember that this was all supposed to drop in May, but Covid delayed the conference. it is my strong belief that we are much further along then was presented at the conference. Staking is likely totally finished and they are giving the market time to absorb and prepare for additional unveilings.

>>22025999
nice trips
I'm going to assume that anon is removed from dealing with "poor" people in his day to day life with how he dismisses them, but as someone who sees them regularly, no, they don't have money to invest. for most normies, any increase in earnings or available funds they have is directly translated to "stuff" or upgrading their cost of living (niggers do this far more than other races, which is why I insist race is still a factor to consider). If you walked into a grocery store, and took a head count of everyone in there, if there's 100 people, I'd wager 20 at most have significant investments (over 50k), of those, 10 at most have htem in volatile assets (stocks/crypto), and of those, maybe 1 or 2 are in crypto specifically, but probably 0. That's why I laugh when people insist we're in a bullrun now just cause link is finally starting to break out, not even close, the average person still thinks crypto is a huge scam and has no idea its already marching back to ath's again.

>>22025505
Wtf? Defi is money markets through crypto. You get interest for depositing/lending out your crypto and the interest is higher than banks ATM.

You get super interest by being a liquidity provider/market maker through heavily incentivized liquidity pools.

>>22024766
Yes, staking link in nodes is not difficult. It is the penalties for providing bad data that are still being worked through.

This to me blew out the 1:1 collateral requirement that many anons have claimed. If there are different penalties for different types of contracts, that means 1:1 collateral won’t be required.

>>22025887
>For most normies 50k is a nice 2 week vacation in some airbnb near a beach with some booze and friends.

are you fucking high?

if you're a normie who is okay with dropping 50k on an investment with LINK, possibly without even knowing what it does, you are a fucking lunatic who should probably be posting here

>>22025537
research yearn.finance, it is an automated yield farmer that uses smart contracts to allocate and rebalance your funds into the most profitable defi instruments. yearn will be huge, it is the first "second level" defi project, and a lot of OG link marines are involved. You don't need to hold the token to avail of it. Also research nexus to insure your funds locked into defi smartcontracts, accidents happen even to 200IQ devs.

>>22026202
You think normies are putting 50k in a decentralize oracle? lol...

>>22021575
> be world renowned chief scientist and ivy league professor shaping modern cryptography like maybe other 5 people in the world
> dont feel compensated enough for your work
> team up with jew friend that is a blockchain startup CEO
> said person needs means of laundering money
> you can offer clean liquidity trough the pillars of conventional learning institutions
> set up joint effort
> wind up some meme vapourware startup called towncrier to launder couple millies
> 500k and 800k dumps throughout the years were not enough. 2 years pass wind up another meme startup build by students bribed for good grades called DEXO, launder another "undisclosed amount" of dozens of millions
>profit

>>22026420
no smoothbrain, i'm saying a nice two week vacation does not cost 50k

>>22025887
This is the strangest FUD i've ever seen, I can't even work it out. Is this some rich spoilt autist that has actually never had sex and thinks vactions are 50k? I lived a normie life for a long time anon, 28 year old boomer here, 500 of the queens pounds was an expensive holiday for me in greece or spain. Even big travelling memes like SE asia for 3 months only cost me about a grand with hostels and shit. What are you smoking, son?

>>22026492
>i'm saying a nice two week vacation does not cost 50k
Lol.. i was just throwing out a random number.

>>22025340
lmao argue the point dude right?
Eliminating drug addiction, not telling them they have no future, not discriminating against them in their own nations, etc. can help.
>>22025933
I'm also pretty skeptical about it but hope so. In any case, a secession is much more peaceful than a race war is more my point. We could do this in relative peace, I hope, and not devolve into purely executing revenge.

>>22026187
It won't be required for every kind of contract, but you bet your ass the valuable ones will demand a higher collateralization

>>22026501
>This is the strangest FUD i've ever seen
I'm not trying to FUD.. you guys are talking about something completely irrelevant to what i was bringing up.

>>22022629
You won't make it because you understood absolutely NOTHING in the OP. Granted, he was being very vague, but if you attended the conference and watched the talks, you would have known what was up.

>>22026045
Consider killing yourself tranny

>>22026651
I understood your point but the comparison made no sense, everyone knows a weekend on the beach in an airbnb costs nowhere near 50k (more like 500). The point is normies will piss 50k down the drain on meaningless pointless drivel that won't add to their lives, which is for the most part true. They do not understand how to make their money work for them, and are inundated with propaganda convincing them to consume rather than build wealth.

>>22024317
this means nothing today and in the future aswell anymore.
gate keepers to information are gone, talk is cheap, skin in the game is worth more and more. the size of your link stacks and nothing more matters

>>22021988
>>22022163
>>22022665
Holy shit, $81,000 by 2026 meme you guys spout off doesn't sound so stupid now... jesus I work as a "banker" and I have been looking into this Chainlink.. this changes things. I have to buy into this asap.

>>22026720
This makes more sense. 50 fucking k on a holiday though, fucking hell get some better analogies. I'm a almost a millionare now, but when I was a average wagie earning 35k a year I would not have spent even 1k on a holiday. my car was a 500 pound piece of shit too, you are overestimating the average normie, 50k in savings would take them upwards of 6 years on a crazy tight budget. Re-orientate yourself, anyone with over even 30k in crypto right now is going to find themselves very wealthy in 5 years if they play their cards right and don't hold complete shit

>>22022665
If Congress is retarded enough to declare a decentralized oracle network as a hate network (they are), then the US will just become even more irrelevant in this new economy as other groups and nations take advantage of the opportunities apparent to them.

>>22021575
>Once AnyTrust goes live smart contract computation and execution becomes a race to 0 cost, with all of the value of smart contracts transferred to the oracle layer.

How the fuck did I miss AnyTrust? I was just researching it now. Do you have any solid resources for more in depth information? Thanks.

>>22026045

> I never bothered watching any talks at any Ethereum conference ever, let alone bother to listen to this weekend's talks.

This is how you sound.

>>22025463
>Was anything mentioned about Google?
Yes

>Or the excel add-in?
Yes

top bread. OP not a faggot it appears

>>22021575
except DECO is literally vaporware project created by ari juels 1 year ago (go see the registry of the DECO website) and some of his students to cash out millions of dollars from their link positions

heres the team of geniuses working on this revolutionary piece of technology kek

>>22021575
DR;NS

>>22025887
>bitcoin twitter hack
Making Twitter an essential component of the btc blockchain stack was a mistake.

>>22026187
>>22026637

In one of Johnny's group chats he literally used a 1:1 collateral ratio for an example pertaining to billions of value in a smart contract. Lol

>>22027498

Kek

>>22027382
kek what a joke

>>22026886
Based

>>22026600
>50k for a two week vacation
>just throwing around random numbers dude teehee

>>22025340
douche retard thinks he can predict. you have spoiled this thread with your arrogant ignorance

>>22026089
That post has nothing to do with chainlink making decentralized ebay retard. The post is highlighting the fact that not all information is available through an API and for certain things you need humans because not everything is as objective as a price feed. The question then is if Chainlink can't handle that, then what will?

>>22027515
I saw it too, we were barely 90 people in that session, but it was top quality. Also he hinted at a half-assed pre-staking (your answer was not measured, but your availability and response time was). So if you lagg behind, you pay a penalty

>>22027765
maybe those things don't need to be on the blockchain?