/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for cyborgs

>>21975411
so if you know it's going up, why are you not making free money with it?
you're a retard i get it

>>21975470

Second for meat-sacks

Is this what is happening to TSLA?
https://moxreports.com/vw-infinity-squeeze/

Should I get more apple for covered calls or just buy more fngu/tqqq, lads?

>>21975497
what's happening is retarded naked call option sellers panicking

>>21975519
So
Line go up
At least one more week
Right?

I have become addicted to longing american misery and shorting the middle class bros.
It started with tech. Then with boomer metals and zoomer coins. But I must have MORE.
>palantir
Everything about this company screams exit scam with the IPO. But this is the cyberpunk dystopia and the beginning of the misery singularity.
I need more tickers that long misery and short the middle class. I already have some exposure to:
DIS
AMZN

>>21975497
No. TSLA short interest is near historic lows and there are tons of shares available. The VW infinity squeeze happened because only 1% of the float was effectively available due to all the short selling and VW buying up tons of shares to force the squeeze.

>>21975551
mtch

is $1000 into TQQQ a good starting point? Thinking about buying Monday. Regretting not getting in it earlier.

>>21975448
... are you ok, anon?

>>21975554
What about naked calls like >>21975519
said? Selling calls is also being short the stock.
> there are tons of shares available.
Well nobody is dumping them enough for the price to dump.

thinking about dropping 10k into AAPL.
They will continue to grow and will probably double within a year

>>21975622
Jesus what the hell is that chart.
Looks good though.

>>21975626
Always a good option.

>>21975626
Wait for it to go closer to the moving average. It has gone parabolic for two weeks since it touched the moving average last time.

>>21975551
Is /smg/ this retarded now? Calling Palantir an exit scam? They've been around for fucking forever. Clearly you've never been to Silicon Valley, not even once.

>>21975448
I'm planning to drop 1k on DFEN and HD until next year. Also plan on swing trading gold and GRWG next week. What do you anons think? Also thanks to the other anon who told me to just go for it and become an EMT your shitposting really helped me

what you guy think about shorting IBM?
Even in this massive tech bubble they don't grow

>>21975681
Then why not 50k?

>>21975681
Based. Either get in early Monday before the cheapie pump or hope for a dip.

>>21975681
>double within a year
Nigger they already doubled in like 6 months, you really think they’re gonna double again in a year?

>>21975727
The ghost of Paul Rand walks the hallways and ensures their stagnant immortality

>>21975736
He looks so much better as an old man

I want some industrials in my folio to balance my 80% tech, so shill me UPS vs FDX vs CAT

>>21975551

No idea what this company does but naming a data mining company after the evil orbs from lord of the rings that drive men insane is peak dystopia

>>21975551
>going long on american misery
long CONGRESS
long DNC
long RNC
long CNN/MSNBC/FoxNews

>>21975644
I'm not!
Not even a little bit!

I am having a slow breakdown. This is absolutely devastating and compounds old trauma by adding insult and secrecy!

I'm not okay, but they all know I don't have the balls to kill myself so they don't care!

They probably wish I would leave!

>>21975681
Uhhh

>>21975777
That's a lot of exclamation points for weekend smg you need to calm down

My parents aren't leaving shit for me either but you don't see me crying about it

>>21975739
Brother nigatello, don't underestimate Tim Apple. People WILL buy the new iPhone, they will fucking take out a loan to buy it. Yeah, they'll double

>>21975448
Anyone have a link to:

A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Time-Tested Strategy for Successful Investing (11th Edition)

Thanks

What are my odds of getting this on Monday with retarded swings?

I just need a 1 second red dildo to make it happen desu

>>21975652
It's a garbage argument that assumes that the market makers are total retards who keep selling cheap calls despite TSLA pumping heavily over a year and that they also basically shoot themselves in the foot by panic covering and driving the price up. If covering is raising the price and causing them to lose money, there would be no reason for them to do it. Obviously other factors are at play.

The only real reason for the TSLA price is because people are speculating on the future of the company and future share price. This enrages the TSLA bears so they instead invent actual conspiracy theory explanations.

>>21975777
anon, no one on an anime pedo site is going to be able to meaningfully help you. You'll have to seek professional help for your real world problems. It sucks what's happening to you, but airing on smg won't actually help you

>>21975834
Who the hell is selling all these calls then

>>21975834
> people are speculating on the future of the company and future share price.
I'm guessing it's more about the share price. Their sales seems to have stagnated.

>>21975805
because they don't have shit to leave, or because they don't think you deserve shit?

I'm not crying... But if I can sit at a table and think I'm with allies when they're all actually trying to confuse and manipulate me, how am I supposed to trust anyone? How many other things are they keeping from me? Do they text my brother and have a laugh about it?

>>21975759
young donald is kino

>>21975786
this is not a result of shortage in sales
this is a result in surplus of buyers

>>21975873
could it be whales running the wheel and dumping gains into tesla?

>>21975448
Will GEO moon if trump wins? After all hes pro profit prison

>>21975892
GRAB YOUR NUTS AND DO SOMETHING YOU SOUND LIKE A BITCH

>>21975861
That is an inaccurate description of /smg/

My professional helper is in the employ of my aunt; I have no idea what she is being paid to say.

These people do not think I deserve to even try to see the world clearly.

Apple is FUCKED on Monday.

(You) literally cannot prove me wrong.

>>21975811
https://libgen.lc/ads.php?md5=76325775B5AF57DB255226A74A7ACCD2

>>21975939
Your professional helper
Paid for by your parents
You're inheriting 50k
You're here bitching

I fucking hate you

>>21975912
Wouldn't that be puts? I don't see how that would drive the price up

>>21975760
I need to know this as well

>>21975735
dont have a spare 50k thats not tied up atm

>>21975947
Robin niggers were expecting robin niggers to buy apple when they're already able to buy fractional shares.

Anyone else that wanted apple already has it.

This is going to be an interesting no news pump and dump

>>21975760
>>21975984
NAIL

>>21975739
people are slaves to the brand

>>21976000
stop stealing the images I post here you gorilla nigger

>>21976000
Options activity will be way cheaper to engage in

>>21975973
Anon
My family thinks I am worth less than 1/20th of what he is.

They think his future is more than 20 times brighter than mine could be.

>>21975939
This attitude is probably why you're not getting half. You're still getting shit so make something if it. Donald Trump turned a million into a billion yet somehow people think he is stupid. Go make a million from your 100k and prove your family wrong.

>>21975947
>>21976000
you're right AAPL is gonna dump from $125 to $0 gonna sell my shares at open thanks guys

What move zig Monday AAPL?

First 20-30 mins UP
OR
getting the downs

>>21976038
Who gives a shit
ARE you worth 1/20th or not
If you're nothing without their money, then they're right
If you're worth something, then their money would just be a bonus
Whether or not they believe in you is only relevant in so far as it helps you understand how you've represented and conducted yourself thus far

Prove them right or wrong

Bitching about it isn't a great start

>>21975506
Nice portfolio fren.

>>21975873
I'm assuming that a lot of them are covered. A lot of them are so far out of the money that it was a real win/win for the sellers.
>>21975891
Sales or revenue doesn't give the full picture because TSLA's CapEx is falling rapidly so their margins are improving despite revenue starting to stagnate a bit. They're able to bring in less money by discounting their cars but still rapidly grow and turning a profit. Elon has stated that he only wants a small amount of profit and the rest should feed growth until the company is massive.

Keep in mind that their gross margins are improving at a calculable rate because of economies of scale involved. Other automakers are not producing enough EVs for them to eat into this margin and since they make fewer cars they'll be more expensive for them to produce.

>market closed
>no futures

>>21976136
Read the thread
We are determining the futures

>>21976057
meh
It's really just dementia that people call stupid. He's very good at keeping it controlled though. Solid chance he won't make it another 4 years, I'm afraid. Unless adrenochrome conspiracy magic is real. But President Pence has a nice ring.

>>21976084
>Bitching about it isn't a great start
that's true
and so they say that because I'm breaking down, they obviously did the right thing. Because I'm going to go crazy and spend a ton of money on some sort of anime thing?

Anon they hamstrung me from the get-go. Just so my brother could get the confidence and testosterone of totally dominating me.

5 dollar subway deal is really good, especially if you do the most expensive footlong subs. Sad that subway is now arguably the clear worst tasting sub place though. They haven't evolved and every other brand is better tasting.

VIX and IV is a lil too high still in the market.

>>21976074
All it takes it's receding the pump from the past 2 weeks to rustle you desu

>>21976148
open the market now

>>21976159
they e been the worst tasting place for a long time m8
at least since 2014, they're greasy as shit, no fucking way that pedo lost all that weight on just eating subway, it's all a scam

>>21976092
Thanks anon. /smg/ helped me fix my boomer portfolio so I made a Robinhood to play with.

>>21976219
you can lose weight eating brownies

>>21976156
Then fuck em

I've never hung out with your parents and I'm just fine
You either need them or you don't
From the sound of it they won't really worry about it if you fuck off

So don't act like a child and cry and make a scene
Just nut up and get on with your life

>>21976159
For me it’s firehouse subs

>>21976262
Thanks anon!

Lots of men made it after shitty childhoods!
My father taught me a few things. That it’s funny when I’m suffering, and that children are not to be protected!
And my mother taught me that there are soooo many more important things to do than worry about me.

If she didn’t worry about me, I won’t worry about me either!

>>21976177
You sure about that?
So far AAPL is deep red, TSLA is angry green, and TQQQ is crabbing up

>>21976262
(I already did cry like a child though, and lash out, and ask them why. They decided on this years ago. It sounds like they don’t even remember why, but it was the right thing to do. This hurts so goddamn much.)

another great day

>>21976356
Yeah, got some good value on selling calls today. First I've sold this year.

>>21976326
You're being a melodramatic child

I remember the moment, when I was 4 years old, when I fully realized that the only thing I was going to learn from my family was how not to treat people

You are what you've made yourself and you'll only become what you choose to be
Right now you're choosing to be melodramatic and blame everyone and everything but yourself

You aren't the only one with a shitty family

>>21976396
congratulations

Feels good to sell covered calls on Fridays green. Always a nice IV crush come Monday.

>>21976104
>TSLA's CapEx is falling rapidly
I meant both CapEx and OpEx. You can also see why it makes sense for Tesla to discount their cars because they don't need the extra profit and producing more cars will increase their margins in the future. Tesla has like 8 billion in cash reserves and they can raise money any time. It makes sense for them to prioritize growth.

>>21975372
I could see Nintendo going up if they're really seriously about investing in other markets like movies, parks, and resturants, hell they still have like 6 years left in their nvidia deal.

>>21976449
Didn't really feel rich till I sold covered calls on my port.

Explain why I shouldn’t dump everything into Ford stocks.

The company is going to make the biggest comeback in the electric car market, and are more reliable/not as autistic as Elon Meme

>>21976159
>Sad that subway is now arguably the clear worst tasting sub place though.
Agreed on that. The tomato sauce for the meatball sub is wrong. It's been a while but I remember it tasting like bad grocery store canned spaghetti sauce. Their meats are low quality. I don't know what the hell they do to their chicken to make it like that. The one thing they do okay is the bread.

>>21976424
That’s fair.

I still want to know what I did that makes it my fault. Or what he did that was so wonderful and I didn’t do.

I can’t swallow the fact that I will never know because they don’t want me to. But I guess I’ll learn to.

And I really fucking hate it that they fucked me and think it was good. And they expect me to patch up my bleeding asshole and thank them.
And that my brother gets off on it sexually also bothers me.

>>21976509
You should be able to make it on your own. My nw is already more than my parents and I may be able to hit 1m next year.

There is something fucked up with luxury and money. Went to a cheap chinese place, obvious family working behind the counter. Got the food. Would take it over any luxury french shit or whatever.

Luxury is the biggest scam in the world. Nothing is comfy about it.

>>21976509
None of that matters

Maybe your mom cheated on your dad and you're only a half son
Wouldn't make a difference

You sound extremely young
At some point a man needs to realize his parents were clueless assholes, children themselves in adult bodies the entire time

I'm giving you knowledge right now
This should be a fire under your ass not sand in your eye

>>21975760
Someone answer

>>21975760

WM

>>21976022
I get really happy whenever I see other people post images I originally posted

>>21976672
Me too

>>21976509
>And I really fucking hate it that they fucked me and think it was good. And they expect me to patch up my bleeding asshole and thank them.
>And that my brother gets off on it sexually also bothers me.
What

>>21976581
>Luxury is the biggest scam in the world. Nothing is comfy about it.
True. You have to dig just as hard on the 'high end' of the consumer market to find quality as you do on the low. Say you've saved up an amount of money to buy a premium expensive thing that is important to you. You enter that high end market place expecting everything there to be good, right? Because it's expensive it must be best? But it isn't. A lot of it is expensive because the target clientele is wealthy and they pay whatever. Gotta dig for the good stuff no matter what.

>>21976498
You don't understand the reason why all these companies are delaying their switch to EVs, beyond being unable to innovate, it's because they're already struggling to be profitable and transitioning to EV production will lower their margins and eat into their core business. Ford isn't like Tesla, it isn't growing every year with a huge addressable market. At best it can stop selling ICE vehicles and sell the same amount of EVs which will likely have lower margins and they'll see less profit.

Ford cannot become like Tesla regardless of the amount of EVs they sell.

>>21976581
chinese food is dank af. people keep telling me that what we have in the us isn't "real chinese food" but who cares when it's good. Only complaint is that every chinese restaurant I've been to tries to penny pinch you anywhere it can. No free drink refills when literally every other place does that?

>>21975811
Yeah it’s right next to my copy of millionaire next door

>>21976699
Sorry, that was a bad place to put that metaphor. I was not literally fucked, that’s a separate thing.

>Nio used the price pop to sell more shares
I know they need the money but how much freaking shares are they going to have in an year. Already at a billion.

Been using debit call spreads for weeklies on TQQQ the last few months. Its not glamorous but it's literally free money. I've been making $200-$450 a week simply off doing spreads almost ATM.

Really wish I would have found this out earlier.

How do you think AAPL is going to do after the split?

>>21976788
It's almost like a Chinese pump and dump isn't a great place to put your money if you don't want to subsidize the Chinese government

>>21976800
Who knows. I am hoping there is a dip so I can buy in cheap.

So tired. Feel tired when dealing with stocks and options as well. I want to be rich, I want to free my family from wageslavery, and I want to never have to work again. I've made good moves and I've made bad moves. Could've made a lot if i cashed out early but not retirement tier. Ended up holding and cashing out at low 6 figures only to blow it the next few days out of emotion on what I missed out on. Ended up getting btfo'd and going down to upper 5 figures. Just clawing my way back up now. Have managed to make some money since hitting the bottom but obviously no where near as huge as before. Slow and steady yet exhausted, tired, and anxious. Had i cashed out, stayed out of the market for a month, rethought my strategy, and implemented my new strategy I'd be making 2000 a week with relatively "low risk". At this point I'd have to risk a sizeable chunk to just pull 1000 a week. Im so tired guys, I wanted freedom for my family and I yet here I lay tired, weary, anxious, and depressed.

>>21976838
I honestly dont give a fuck if they use my money to turn uighurs into pecking duck substitute as long as i profit. Ive bought US treasuries, im ok with giving money to evil empires.

>>21976792
>debit call spreads for weeklies on TQQQ the last few months. Its not glamorous but it's literally free money. I've been making $200-$450 a week simply off doing spreads almost ATM.
Explain how does this work. Can I lose money?

>>21976872
You need to find work you enjoy or find purpose in. Or work so easy or takes less time that you can pursue other things.

>>21975777
Judging by how you write your posts they were probably right.

>>21975506
I haven’t gotten into doing options yet but it couldn’t hurt to do both. It’s not like having 100 shares of apple is going to hurt you

>>21976872
It’s a process anon let it go

I’m down 4K on shorting the market and am just learning it l. I made my 6 figures off real estate last year and don’t have the balls to gamble it right now

>>21976590
This did light a fire. But every time I start to think I’m being unreasonable I feel less motivated.

Problem is that I’m not young, I’m an old neet who believed it when I was told I’m a loser, and a loser can only lose.

This doesn’t get any better and being miserable doesn’t help. Gotta start winning somehow.

>>21976890
Mf they want to take every dime you have

WHEN NIO dies they'll just move on to the next scam and get more of your dimes until you learn

>>21976872

This pasta? Because if not fuck you and you’ll never make it because even if you make it you won’t be happy. Trading is fun and you’re a fag.

>>21976872
Are you LARPing? Upper 5 figures can still make 5k a week with "low risk" on upper 5 figures. Just go long calls on QQQ or SPY on red days. SPY calls printed big today because of tech correction (crabbing) into SPY rotation. If you loaded up on QQQ calls during dips today you'd be up 10% off of each dip alone.

>>21976941
Don't make bets out of laziness
Make plans out of vindictive rage

... How old?

will everything be red in the market next week bros? also I am a newshit

>>21976972
Low 30s

>>21976981
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>>21976780

Rolling for free .crypto domain names
>>21975581
>>21975581
>>21975581

>>21976908
Sure, anon. I'm not good at explaining this so you might just have to look the term up, but basically the gist is this:

You buy a call and you also sell a call. The one you sell has to be more than the one you buy. Basically this means you could buy those fancy $900 calls for super cheap.

The downside is that your gains and losses are limited. Basically you could put in $18 into TQQQ and get $75 at the end of the week.

Just Google some YT videos and there's lots of good ones explaining how you can do this on RobinHood.

>>21976981

Today’s close was bullish af next week is gonna be way fuckin green

>>21976946
Yeah, that risk is there. Theres also the chance they turn into one of their global "face" companies like tencent or alibaba. Thats why i keep my position smoll.

>>21976872
>I want to be rich, I want to free my family from wageslavery, and I want to never have to work again.
You and everyone else, pal. Now imagine being one of the millions of active investors that don't beat the market and have been at this for 20 years. Imagine how many TSLA like companies slipped out of their hands.

I'm sick to death of stocks but there's nothing I can do about it unless I want to stop making money. That's just life, you're forced to do things that make you feel awful. At least you don't have to clean toilets or suck dick for money.

>>21976981
Fed chair just announced to the world that inflation is cool

Married anons, what do your wives think of your investment accounts? Mine is butthurt I’ve been investing “behind her back”, even though I’m making a shitload of money. She is a stay at home mom. How do I get her to fuck off and know her place?

>>21977022

Shouldn’t of ever told her in the first place.

can someone post the elon musk x bob page image that was used for the OP like a month ago or so?

>>21976990
Then you fucked up and you deserve more than a little of what you're getting right now

Sell your Yu-Gi-Oh cards and start channeling your autism into learning something you can leverage into a shitload of money

If you can't already, learn to code

>>21977022
Despite having no income your wife thinks that your money is her money and that she should have a say in what you do with it. You should consider this a red flag.

>>21977022
Mine doesn't know

ID probably changed.

>>21976915
You confused me. You mean I need to find something to do? I wish it was easy. There are things I was doing before but the potential this has is causing me to put those things off just so I can get rich. Feels like I've become obsessed with it.

>>21976940
>I made my 6 figures off real estate last year
Congrats. I'm actually up, not down. Just not as high as I was a few months back.

>>21976948
>you won’t be happy.
Wrong.

>>21976950
Can you explain in more detail? These buy calls what timeline are you using on them? 1 week out till expiration? A month? Year?

>>21977044
I didn’t tell her on purpose. I linked TDA to our bank account so I can lazily keep track of our net worth and she saw it tonight. I don’t give a fuck, I told her it’s my job to provide for our family and she is overstepping her boundaries as a wife but she’s still asshurt I was “keeping it from her.” I think she would rather have the cash in a nigger savings account, ao she can look at it. Women are incredibly risk averse, whereas I manage risk for a living, so investing comes natural. What do? She’s a good woman besides this.

>>21977081
>Despite having no income your wife thinks that your money is her money and that she should have a say in what you do with it. You should consider this a red flag.
Agreed. It’s honestly one of her only flaws, but she thinks it’s “our money.” I’m happy to provide for her and my son, but she needs to shut the fuck up and let me handle business. How do I tell her this in a polite, tact way?

>>21977113
This is for the benefit of both of your bloodlines. She needs to pull her own weight not worry about your job

>>21977154
Give her the d

>>21976999
>>21977011
alright neat. hopefully I'll get some shekels from CARR

>>21977178
Yeah it's the end of summer and they're up 50% the past 3 months you'll do great

>>21977166
Pic related
>>21977175
I did and it actually messed her pussy up kek. She just had our baby 3 weeks ago

I did it again. I bought the high again. I resisted entering this clown market for so long and I finally FOMOed. I bought in and felt pretty good about it at first but after a good fap and the markets closed, I realised I fucked up again hehe

>>21977001
>have been at this for 20 years.
I'd give up at a certain point, way before 20 years, and just do a safe, mostly passive, strategy that would probably allow me to retire before 55. Oh but I'll be a wageslave though. Depressing and depressing watching them have to wage as well.

I really hope this new strategy works out. The more familiar I get with it, the more I'll likely be willing to put more on the table to generate 3k a week without it feeling risky nor using all my capital.

>>21976872
just let time work for you
you can't force it, you can't rush it
you just have to do your best and be patient

>>21977201
To elaborate, she does the budget and that’s when she saw the TDA account

>>21975705
> now

>>21977088
How the fuck do you hide it? Does she not notice you glued to charts?

>>21977201
You've got two legit responses available to you

>I honestly didn't realize it meant that much to you. I'm sorry. BJ NAO?

Or

>Fuck off, woman. I'm The Man around here and where the fuck are you going no this is hormones put it down don't no no no please fuuuuucccckkkkkk

>>21977154
I don't think you can, not in a way that she would understand. Just unlink your TDA account and ignore her questions about your investments. If she has any specific investment ideas she can suggest them to you, otherwise no backseat portfolio management.

>>21977201
Almost killed a girl with my dick once. Popped an ovary cyst, had to take her to the ER. Scary shit but its a good story.

>>21977257
I have an office 15 minutes away from the house
All she knows is that I make money

>>21977219
Yeah I know. I'm just exhausted at this point.

Btw im the same guy you replied to on here, ID changed.

>>21977201
>tell each other everything
lel did you take out a heloc or something?

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>>21977201
Just apologize to her. Tell her you didn't want her to worry and that you'll try to be more transparent. Try to explain that you know what you're doing. Really hammer in the fact that sometimes you do lose money, but it's easily made back. Explain that you think seeing losses could make people panic but that you stay calm under pressure.

>>21977357
I SAVED YOUR MARRIAGE
you'd better pay that bj forward

>>21977308
Lol. Please tell me, is this a literal office you're renting out solely for hanging out at to feel like your a big shot stock market trader?

>>21977357
You are a risk taker anon.

>>21977376
No I also do various web and design shit and I need a place to meet clients that isn't a subway or filled with toddlers

>>21977297
did you go too deep or too far to a side or something?
or is it just a random chance that it happens?

>>21976872
just buy and hold TQQQ retard

>>21977406
Ahh okay. Asking since I actually joked with someone before where we were talking about having a literal office rented out. Just trade stocks in there during market hours and go home afterwards. Lmao all the other people from other office would probably be wondering what we even do in there when it'd be a literal small office with a pc and phone for stock trading and a console nearby for wasting time should no good moves be available at the time. If I hit it big in the stock market i might actually do that.

>>21977360
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>>21977389
You fuckers actually have good advice. Love you guys

>>21977451
Got my Atari 2600 running

Reminder that boomer investing will win in the end. Golden bull run won’t last forever but snag up as much gains as you can while it’s happening. Have a plan to shift back to boomer investing sometime in the next 6 months - 2 years.

>>21977453
Is she blowing you right now
I need to know

>>21977453
>the cringe wife larper back at it again faking texts with exact same phone and ui and colors and shit
should spend this time actually making money on market instead of being an autistic fuck pretending like this.

>>21977453
Based marriage anon

>>21977486
Tomorrow. I’m in a different part of the country right now, that’s why we’re texting.

>>21977492
mf all text messages look like that

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>>21977492
Never seen an iphone? Nigger I have never posted text screenshots before. I’m drunk on an overnight and wanted some serious advice. Eat a dick faggot

>>21977484
what is boomer investing?
also, i know that you're going to give a retarded answer so i'll just reply in advance.
whatever garbage you're going to utter from your shitbrained skull, doesn't even beat SPY.
and no, boomer investing hasn't beaten shit for decades.

>>21977201
You might as well just skip the whole process and get divorced now.

>>21977431
She was riding me and it went deeper than usual i think. Turns out it was a big cyst, lots of internal bleeding. We are no longer together but we still talk. Shes had 2 ops for cyst removal since then, apparently shes predisposed to those.

>>21977511
yeah bro sure. sure is many people coming here with the exact same phone and wife problems.
get a life

>>21977545
Divorce is a jew racket. Fuck you anon

>>21977558
It's an Android
And everyone who's married has wife problems

>>21977532
>>21977558

>>21977561
Investing is jew racket to get white, money minded individuals to buy stocks at high prices and rugpull them, taking their money and leaving the white family man broke.

Every single stock market crash in history was a jewish rugpull.

>tfw housing prices are going up faster than my stocks
Fucking christ, I’m never gonna make it

>>21977201
is this fake? women don't text like this lol

>>21977561
She's going to divorce you eventually.

>>21977630
Looks like a lair

>>21977635
Yes they do

>>21977630
Housing market is in a bubble

>>21977587
True, that’s why I only allow about 30% of my net worth is tied up in stocks. Most of it is in guns, ammunition, gold and silver.

>>21977635
That's don't, but lot's of smart women do. Many people I know from church do.

>>21977657
Thots*

>>21977653
Guns and ammo are a Jewish trick.

>>21977676
Ok now you’re just messing with me anon

>>21977022
Set up a Roth IRA for the wife in April. $12k for 2019 and 2020. Put it all in ROKU at $64 a share. She thinks I’m some sort of investing genius kek

>>21977700
And by April I mean March. What are months even?

>>21977081
Goddamn this.
>imagine being married
>imagine getting cucked by your wife

Ah such is life for the beta simp provider in 2020

>>21977700
You timed the exact bottom if you're not larping

>>21977630
depends where you are to some extent, but yeah, people are buying houses like crazy right now
on my short drive to work today I saw two different families moving in to houses

>>21977726
How's your hand treating you bro

>>21977743
Not possible they're renting?
Can't help but feel like the bad housing numbers are going to come out of nowhere and these high prices are going to be revealed as being exceptions or pipe dreams

RRGB

>>21977453

Only thing you're providing is cringe for this thread.

>>21977733
I think the bottom for ROKU was in the high 50s but it was just one lucky trade. I was buying other stuff the whole way down in March trying to catch falling knives but for some reason the one trade in my wife’s account was so close to the lows.

>>21977022
make a well thought out financial plan and explain to her how you are doing it. explain the concept of inflation and how money in the bank loses value every year. structure some harmless decision trees so she can feel like she is involved. Open a roth ira for her and dump some money in something boring so she can "manage" that.

>>21977699
Yea I’m fucking with you on the guns and ammo but the stock market just reeks of Judaism

>>21977765
I fucking hope so, I’m tired of being surrounded by poor people but I also don’t want to pay 75% of my slave salary on a mortgage

>>21977747
I'm getting ready and packing my shit for a fuck fest covid pozzing party that I'm going to be attending at a lake cabin this weekend. I'm going to unironically have sex, and possible an orgy, with several beautiful women. I also closed out of all my positions earlier today that put me up a retarded 467% YTD. Your words have no power over me.

>>21977898
Your returns are the part I doubt the most

>>21977934
Where have you been the last 5 months?

>>21977948
Here with you which is why I doubt your returns

>>21977934
>>21977948
>>21977962
Any retard who invested solely in COVID meme stocks since March could expect those returns. Take a look at the ARK holdings, or zoomer stocks like Etsy and zoom

>>21977995
Post em

>>21978000
Not me retard I’m speaking for the other retard. However I did make big gains on Tesla but I sold before split announcement and refuse to FOMO back in.

>>21978065
Not 467% YTD lol

These past 2 weeks I've thought we'd have a rug pull so I've spent all of the credit I receive from writing spreads into QQQ and SPY long puts. Then we proceed to hit new ATH every day. It feels so much better profiting off of long puts than it is from long calls or spreads that I can't help myself.

>>21977765
man I have no idea
it's a good feeling to be flexible, that is, I have some of my net worth in real estate and also the liquidity to buy in if there is a significant real estate sell-off

>>21977630
what about rent? should be stagnant

>>21977630
https://wolfstreet.com/2020/08/27/subprime-mortgages-fall-massively-delinquent-taxpayers-on-hook-housing-market-splits-in-two/

>>21977726
Nigger what? Starting a family with a debt free virgin without tattoos is the least cucked thing you can do. I have a son that will carry on after I die. I will have many more children by the time I’m 35. What do you have besides a life of hedonism?

>>21978166
These people need to start getting foreclosed on so I can pick up some cheapies

>>21978249
Last recession prices didn't bottom until 2010.

>>21977635
Do you only fuck dumb sluts?

>>21975811
Google b-ok and then never buy another book. I read everything there first and buy it if I enjoyed it enough to want to own it.

>>21977535
Buy gold


It’s 500% over spy since 2000

>>21978413
it's minus something bellow inflation since 2010

true boomer investing is
15% classic cars
25% real estate
35% index funds
10% bonds
10% gold
5% antiques/furniture/etc.

>>21977070
>Then you fucked up
Oh I know.
I’ve never believed in myself and I guess I have a clue why now. No one else did.

Fuck em. Just because the first thirty years were terrible doesn’t mean I can’t have a successful rest of life.

Maybe one day I can achieve a life that has a few moments of success and purpose. (The programming says those will be taken from me too)

>>21978483
Don't forget guns. Registered machine guns are an appreciating asset.

>>21978511
that's in the etc. category

>>21978249
Yes my dream is to pick up a whole block slowly. Redo it house by house and fully white out a neighborhood.

I’m in NH though and we have some of the lowest delinquent loans in the us and are set up to get lots of buyers from Boston.

Fella good, but also sucks because it won’t be Detroit cheap

>>21978472
Don’t doubt the power of boomer rocks, they have been working to preserve and build wealth since Rome faggot

>>21978599
we're gonna play this game?

sick of all this money talk, bitcoin games has to come through, getting rich has to be the best revenge ever

>>21978656
I was barley warming up in my dads sack then, it all goes in cycles and there is right time for boomer rocks, stocks, and real estate.

We’re in an everything bubble but in the 80s when gold mooned in 25x over a few years

We barley x2 so far and papa powell said “inflation will run hot” keep in mind that’s their inflation off the bullshit CPI. Real inflation will easily be 20-30%

Gold is great, but crypto is way better, no body has time to be moving much weight, see how handy crypto coins are lol, but anyways my mind is preoccupied with winning the bitcoin games contest for this season, way to go, you can still buy gold if you want to, I'm just saying cryptocurrencies are lighter

>>21978691
just in the last century gold has had a 25-year bear market (1935-1970), a 20-year bear market (1980-2000) and a 10-year bear market (2010-2020). This shit doesn't happen with stocks, stocks have 1 to 3-year bear markets. Precious metals are pure gamble and you could hold them for decades without getting anything. You can buy gold just stop pretending it's not gambling.

>>21978760
>2010-2020
sorry it was actually 2012-2018

>>21978723
I can get in and out of gold miners and ETFs with zero fees, if I want to buy crypto I have to pay some percentage for an asset that is basically just a currency
I'd rather buy PM miners than crypto any day imo

>>21977630
>1.5m
It could come with a harem and I still wouldn't pay that much for that shithole

/smg/, can you help me out? Last year I managed to stumble my way into the first group of true friends I ever had. My entire life I had just been with groups of people who would pick on me and I was led into believing it was just a bunch of people joking around and that I shouldn't take it personally or else I had thin skin. This new group of friends were great, they were never mean to me. It felt good to finally be around people who genuinely liked me.

I'll try to make it brief, but the group consisted of me, 4 other guys, and 2 sisters. Earlier this year, everything finally went down hill. One of the guys had a falling out with one of the sisters and he kinda had to leave, more or less. Everyone else was on good terms, though. The other guy got depressed (for unrelated reasons) and stopped hanging around with us. Another got busy with work, and the other one left to join the Military. So now it's just me and the two sisters.

The problem is, I really like one of them, a lot. We'd even stay up all night and talk to each other 1 on 1 over the phone. Idk if she ever liked me, but yeah. After everything went downhill we just haven't talked much in the last 3 months. I still really like her a lot but I'm not sure if I should say anything since we haven't spoken much in months. (The little we have spoken have been short back and forths)

I want to say something but I also don't want to ruin my only good friend group when everyone inevitably starts hanging out again. Help me late night /smg/

>>21978760
Nominal vs real terms my friend

You’re thinking in (((their))) nominal terms when it comes to stocks. The slope of the stock growth has to outpace real inflation.

Gold has a perfect record of beating fiat for 2000 years.

I love stocks too, but it has its place for sure.

>>21978691
I still need to look at junior miners >_<
>>21978511
>the transferable Beretta 93r is still up on gunbroker
oh god one day

>>21978839
BUY THE DIP

>>21978839
post your portfolio so that I can judge what type of man you are

>>21978891
TQQQ debit spreads
SPY shares
Played AAPL for a bit
Flirt with SLV calls/puts every now and then

>>21978853
Look at miners in the 1929 crash in 2020 dollar terms


It makes bitcoins moon look like a joke

>>21978846
If you want to beat fiat, literally all you have to do is buy Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities

>>21978946
How does the Fed coming under the Treasury affect Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities.

>>21978946
That works to a point, the Turks have their version and they are dumping it for gold as fast as they can get it.

Not saying that will happen in the us, but it will in some smaller measure for sure

>>21978940
This assumes we crash again.

>>21978928
just try and find a new girl m8
but stay friends with that group of friends

>>21978928
this really isn't enough info

>>21978076
Again this >>21977898 is NOT ME, RETARD. Jesus fucking Christ how fucking stupid are you

>>21978846
>gold has a "perfect record of beating fiat for 2000 years"
>not even true back to the 80s
most of the music on my phone is older than this gold bull run

>>21978971
true, you basically have to trust 100% the government is not going to fail

Since cash is quickly becoming worthless, where’s the safest place to keep my 10% cash. I’m thinking gold or Berkshire

>>21978983
Yeah, I just might. I just feel like I'm betraying myself for walking away from her.

>>21978972
Well depends how you define crash

Real vs nominal terms


I see a real crash while nominal line only go up keeps going as very possible.

Groceries alone have doubled in 6 months if you don’t life off ramen

>>21978997
gold will always beat fiat in the long term
gold will not beat divvy-reinvested equities in the long term
but in the short/medium term, anything goes
simple as

>>21978972
Not necessarily, that's why Buffett buying Barrick is kinda interesting to me. Berkshire didn't go for gold, they went for a business who's profit model is based on gold. If a miner has solid underlying financials with gold at current prices I think it's a pretty smart bet as it's basically confirmed inflation is coming hard. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a crash in equities, the indices could go up yet gold could still perform well, they're not directly correlated like people think

>>21979046
yeah someone came in and claimed this a week ago and then it turned out he was buying organic amish goat cheese

>>21978928
Bro just ask her to hang out all casual just some lunch or something
If it goes smoothly then just pick up where you left off and try to guage her interest.
Hell she may be bored what with the group not hanging out and may be excited just to see you again.

>>21979058
>gold always beats fiat
>>this isn't true you'd still have lost money today if you went all in 1980 on gold
>GOLD WILL ALWAYS BEAT FIAT REEE
lol ok goldbug enjoy your rocks

>>21977111
You wont get rich from trading. Stop thinking like that.

It's all so fucking humiliating
And no one is hiring.
And moving during a pandemic is FUCKED.

>>21978946
TIPS? They're calculated by the Fed's measure of inflation, not actual inflation. And haven't they always had negative returns?

I want protection from long term inflation and short term deflationary shocks. Seems like we could be in store for a shock soon.

>Inflation doesn't count for gold
This is one of the most retarded statements people make. Of course it counts, gold isn't a real currency and if people want to buy something with it they convert it into fiat.

If you look at inflation adjusted gold prices, its return has been terrible regardless of where you could have bought in. It's not even close to beating the market.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart

>>21979100
Look up real inflation on shadow stats

>>21979068
Thank you, anon.

>>21979100
>No one is hiring
Not true I know prop trading companies are hiring now.
>Moving during a pandemic is fucked
Maybe with moving shit but the rest is normal
I moved myself in June

Man if there's gonna be a correction I hope it waits until October, I have no liquidity and my roommate owes me rent money. And I ain't selling, I'm a steel fisted holder.

>>21979124
Good luck desu

>>21979100
>And no one is hiring
Been trying to get a job for a while now. May be stuck having to do retail, fast food, or warehouse work even though i have a degree

>>21979102
Again you’re using (((their))) inflation numbers not real inflation. The CPI is a crippled bastard full of substitution now.

When it first came out it was a basket of set goods including let’s say a filet mignon. Now a days they say well that steak in 19.99/lb but steak is protein so canned chicken from Mexico is also a protein let’s sub it in, it’s still protein but it’s .99 a lb

GOOD NEWS INFLATION IS ONLY 2% after our jew math

Fuck off faggot pull the cum out of your eyes

>>21979110
Those are overestimated. If inflation actually was 10% for decades on end, like 95% of the population would never be able to afford to retire which obviously isn't true.

Real inflation is probably between 2-5%.

>>21979173
>if there's gonna be a correction I hope it waits until October, I have no liquidity
Hope so as well. A decent chunk of my portfolio is in Apple. The other portion is used to make short term returns but a sudden dump like the covid dump would obilerate me real fast.

>>21979179
So show us the data you prefer, faggot. Veiled noseposting isn't an argument. If you want to invest in "muh feels" and angry hebrew noises, go to /pol/.

>>21979179
so you're saying inflation is bigger than CPI?
That makes gold look even worse.

>>21979182
They can retire because the boomer McMansion or condo in Manhattan also inflated along the way to 2million for 20k

The issue is they will all be dumping them on the market at similar times to pay for their nursing homes soon or to live off equity. They will also start to draw out of their 401k

>>21979138
>prop trading companies
yeaaaaaah they're not going to hire me, I've made a lot of mistakes. Learning, but should probably pick up some books besides bogle

Moving wasn't a much bigger hassle though? I imagine it's really expensive and difficult to furnish a new place when you can't do normal shopping.

>>21979177
>even though i have a degree
hahahahahahahahahahaha
holy shit I'm so fucked

I did some retail/warehouse work and it was decent. I even learned to tolerate all the forced smiling and accommodating and everything. But that part gets soul deadening after a while.
Sure there were beautiful women in the store every day, and ridiculous milfs asking for this and that. But for an introvert, next time I'd just go with the warehouse shit.

>>21979173
A decent chunk of my portfolio is in Apple. The other portion is used to make short term returns but a sudden dump like the covid dump would obilerate me real fast. I'd prefer that if a correction were to happen it'd be obvious enough that I pull out to avoid being btfo'd. Like earlier this week when I pulled out before Jerome's thingy. Did I miss out on some gains? Yeah. But the potential for losses compared to gains was far greater than what I could stand to likely gain. So i pulled out a portion.

>>21979220
Explain maybe I’m the one who’s not seeing something but long term (100s of years, generational wealth) gold is the best store.


Papa Putin knows

>>21978839
>So now it's just me and the two sisters.
Nice. I didn't read the rest sorry.

>>21979274
nobody invest more efficiently than government institutions, especially russian government, right comrade

>>21979179
You don't understand, the argument is even worse for gold if you're saying inflation is higher than implied through CPI. If you buy gold and sell it anywhere down the line you're going to suffer inflation because you bought and sold it with dollars that were affected by inflation.

If 2% inflation has gold losing value since 1980, what do you think 5% inflation would look like?
>>21979232
A lot of retirees never owned a house. Plus you have all the people in areas with declining market value, mostly outside the city. If inflation was greater than the average market return most people would not be able to save enough money to retire even if their property gained value.

>>21979238
>Moving wasn't a much bigger hassle though?
Not really, moved out of my student studio to an apartment with my gf about 130km away from our uni to be closer to my job starting next week and it was fine tbqh.
Just order everything from IKEA and you'll be fine.
Hope you'll be fine fren.
>>21979177
What's the degree in anon and is it only a BA or BS? Or also a master's degree?

>>21979259
This is a fair strategy. My emotions get in the way when I see the signs, so I instead just don't invest anything I will need my hands on for a while. I do some short term gains trading but if I predict wrong (or in the case of a crash) I'll just hold on those stocks in the assumption that most companies I'm in won't go bankrupt and I might just have to wait some years.
In other words, just let my short terms become unexpected longs.
But that doesn't work for everyone!

I have $10k cash on standby to pic related. Rate my strategy

>>21979408
why do you have 10k cash?
you're hiding
you should be buying

>>21979238
What are the odds of getting a gf by working in a grocery store, fast food place, or warehouse?

At this point it seems I may be stuck just working low pay jobs as my degree has been useless ever since i got it a few years ago. I might as well try to make the most of it and get a gf.

t. Never had a gf.

>>21978839
You're not very bright, but you need to move on. Build confidence in yourself. The truth is you don't need friends, friends need you. In simpler terms, there is no reason to go out and force yourself to get friends. Build up yourself, find hobbies and purpose in your life, and real friends will show up.

>>21979356
Your strategy doesn't work for most people because they have zero ability to discern good stocks from bad ones and they'll end up holding something like oil stocks until they delist. If you actually hold good stocks than the strategy is fairly profitable, at least in a bull market where the price should return to where it was when you bought it within a short period of time and not tie up your capital for years.

>>21979437
there are some cute girls that work at the grocery store that I shop at

>>21979450
Okay, thanks /smg/. Everytime you tell me to make an investment, I do the opposite and I always make money. I'll do the same thing now and I'll probably have a girlfriend.

>>21979437
uhhhhhh I have no idea
If you're young, then there should be plenty of other young people and some of them will likely be cute girls.
I don't know how easy it is to date one of them if you work there.

>>21979434
Only 10% of my portfolio, rest is mostly in AAPL MSFT BABA DIS V and GOOGL as well as SPY QQQ

>>21979316
Bs in business. Knew a girl who was unable to succeed with it either which was quite a kicker considering girls seem to have an easier time gettimg jobs that require experience (while having none). She seems to be an insta thot now with some rich guy.

>>21979434
Lol u gave me a good laff. Anyone got the poc of that guy with the only edit being jis eyes glowing blue?

>>21975448
>no meat
>just peas potato and carrot
Fuck that

>>21979534

Monday begins the six month bleed. this is your last warning

>>21977630
True. Bought house 108k 2018. Now worth 148k....and I'm a poorfag.

Will consider selling for TQQQ.

>>21979311
Let me live in my delusion I like a small portion of my portfolio to be boomer rocks


Reeeeeeee

Waiting for a visa dip to add to my 'folio

>>21979571
how do you know how much your house is worth now

>>21979569
NASDAQ 12,000
SHPEE 3500
DOW ALMOST 30,000

>>21979602
Watch the green line go up

>>21979519
Consolidate into fewer positions and then sell covered calls.

>>21979492
>I don't know how easy it is to date one of them if you work there.
Guess warehouse is a good option then. Im a shut in for the most part so the workplace is one of the few places I can talk to one without it being an approach on the street or a store and the girl just giving me a fake number. At least there i can build up rapport and gauge if shes as interested in me as i am in her. Only other place would be a Christian church but I dont feel comfortable going for the sole purpose of meeting a worthwhile girl.

>>21979560
Lol thx. Thought there was a full pic as well. Remember the one where someone posted the top of his head, just his bald head. Possibly during a market wide dip.

>>21979527
Maybe try and get into B2B sales of IT companies. Pay is alright as a sales rep and the bonus is good.
With a BS in business alone you won't get far

>>21979664
>I don't know how easy it is to date one of them if you work there.
>Guess warehouse is a good option then
I just meant I don't know because I didn't try, I was older and tried to never show interest.


try church
what do you have to lose compared to what you might gain? (keep expectations low of course, maybe all you'll gain is some conversation)

>>21979763
I have a work experience (not sales), just doesnt seem to be helping whatsoever even though ive held office jobs. How hard is it to get those business to business sales jobs?

>>21975777
I assure you I have it worse than you, just relax and enjoy the moment... frund

>>21979809
Depends on the company but if you're naturally good at listening to your clients needs and being able to sell your product you should be ok in most small-medium sized firms.
You can always look for inside sales jobs as well at IT firms.
Work your way up to become an account manager and enjoy a comfy salary.
My dad did that and he didn't finish his degree and now has been earning a steady 160k (with OTE) a year before taxes since he was about 37 or something.

I don't know your age but it's never too late to make a career change

>>21979804
Oh I see age discrepeancy. Makes sense. Curious you ever get hit on by any of the girls? Seemed like girls in workplaces are more likely to be aggressive. First job I had 2 making obvious signs of interest. Wasnt interested in either, one had those weird earrings (gauges) but was alrightish and the other was fat.

Not sure about the church idea. Just doesn't feel right to walk into a house of worship solely to meet women, I'm a Christian in case the other reply didn't make it obvious as to why I don't feel comfortable doing that.

>>21979868
Cool this might actually be something I'm capable of. Any recommendations of where to start looking more specifically for these jobs (companies as the only ones I can think of are.big name companies)?

>>21979702

>>21976751
Tesla's aren't profitable to build either, and Ford sells literally 2.4 million cars a year to Tesla's 367,000.

We all want Trump to win right?

>>21979917
Depends heavily on your location but these are good:

Hitachi
IBM
Cisco
HP-E
Nutanix
Oracle
SAP

These are just some examples of companies to apply for but you can just search on LinkedIn for jobs as a sales representative or as Inside Sales and you'll find some local companies

>>21979997
What are you talking about? Tesla is profitable even during recessions, they were profitable without ZEV credits before Covid-19, their gross margins are much higher than the industry average and they're throwing all their income into building new factories which will greatly increase production output.

Ford sells millions outdated vehicles that they barely make any money on despite having near zero growth. Within a few years, Tesla's production output will be four million a year. If you think anyone will pay 8k for Ford self driving software like people do with Tesla, I have a bridge to sell you.

>>21979569

>>21980159
>Tesla is profitable even during recessions

>no one talking about the limb prediction demo from neuralink
most impressive thing from that presentation

>>21980231
That's a fact. We're in a recession and Tesla is not only profitable but they have record sales. Their market share in China actually expanded over the last few months despite the Chinese buying fewer EVs.

You would have to legitimately be retarded to think that Ford is going to become like Tesla and their share price will behave the same way.
>>21980322
There is no point in talking about Neuralink here because you're only going to get the baseless opinions of retarded people. /sci/ is a better option.

>>21980322
None of Musk's promising or interesting ventures are public.

>>21977630
We have another bubble, rent till it crashes, make sure you'll have enough to enter at the lowest point.

Any suggestions for tech companies that have 10x potential over the next 5-10 years? I'm thinking FSLY, PINS, WORK, NET (maybe).

https://twitter.com/toyarochelle/status/1299361307771179008?s=21

Zoomers getting dabbed on by student loans.

>>21980748
>how do interest works