/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for sammichs

>>21974158
Was the little rally on miners today a fluke or the beginnings of a trend?

>>21974158
Alternative title: pic related

>>21974200
post that cute image of your figurine in the Apmex bag. I've been wanting to show my wife.

DAILY REMINDER THAT MY FAMILY THINKS MY OLDER BROTHER IS BETTER THAN ME IN EVERY WAY

I need your help anons. I have 190oz of silver and an ounce of gold. Do I get to an even 200oz, or do I pick up about $350 worth of gold in the form of junk fractional stuff?

Also JPow's a big gay

>>21974220
Do boomers understand what anime is? Just wondering

>tfw in a dilemma of whether or not I feel like dropping $173 on a $50 Goldback.

>>21974220
heh, a JMBullion bag, at least one other anon around here has one too i think.
for comfy snugglebag times

total w/ tax is $6,804.99

I have 5 business days to get to my bank and wire the money
I hope I dont fuck this up.
5k LINK holder since 11 cents here lol
still havent cashed any out yet.
going to make another purchase when I take out some LINK money. There was an anon who said they would make me a few different carts for my next purchase of 5k-6k
so have at it anons.
Build a 5k cart for me

>>21974158
Thank you baker

>>21974256
Yes.

They know it’s those weird cartoons their son watches, and they think they should’ve stopped having kids after the first one since he was everything they ever wanted.

>>21974256
I'm actually only 31. Anime was at it's PEAK when I was in high school/Junior High. I got to be one of the first people in my town to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion and Hellsing.
>>21974265
Thanks bro!

>>21974310
You're welcome anon.

>>21974252
Silver is probably the better bet, but if you don’t have any LMU coins for fondling, those are nice. Especially once you can clink them together. Tough call. Can’t go wrong either way.

>>21974158
Predictions for this coming week?

I think we finally saw the financial markets responding as they should to Powell's inflation announcement

10 year treasury yield down = demand for dollar down
Watched the dollar dump nearly 1% in one day in all markets, TSE, SSE, HKE, FWB, LSE - the only market to catch the knife was NYSE - but by the end of the day they dropped it too
[the dollar has declined 6% in 365 days.. it declined almost 1% in 24 hours..]

There is no 'huge' expected financial news on Monday-Wednesday aka nothing to show recovery and spur demand for the dollar
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
Really the only news in the next week that could cause a decline would be Thursday jobless claims being less bad than expected & then Friday nonfarm payroll + unemployment rate

I think that as we've seen more States backtrack on their lockdowns / close down what had happened it's unlikely for the #'s to be good
More & more people are getting laid off / bankruptcies are picking up
https://youtu.be/eRsLhy9HFlU [Embed]

It's possible that DXY at 2 year low could bounce this week, but it seems really unlikely since the rallies have failed each time this past week. It's going to be hard to stop the sell-off..

Speculation regarding 145M ounces due for delivery right now.. more and more people aware of JPM manipulation / COMEX squeeze on deliveries

VIX spiked up huge to 24.47 in the past 24 hours

To me, it seems like we are on the diving board to jump to $30 silver this week - and as we all know, once it hits $30, it'll be likely to run even higher as the mania sets in

It doesn't seem like there is anything to stop it, barring very good #'s on Thursday/Friday

>>21974322
I remember when helloing first came out. I didn’t even understand that they blew all their budget on the OP and that the final villain was some made up bullshit that wasn’t in the manga.

I had hope then.
I knew everyone liked my brother more than me but I didn’t think it’d be that way forever.

>>21974322
That's exactly how old I am too...

90s > 80s > 70s > 00s > 10s

>>21974343
70 million Oz of silver walking out the COMEX.

>>21974158
Seriously tho where do I buy that dragon cone?

>>21974359
>I had hope then.
Everyone did, the future seemed so bright. Even after 9/11 people were still in a "America is the best, we'll kick their ass" mindset. Sure isn't like that anymore.
>>21974372
It sure was a different time.

>>21974343
>Predictions for this coming week?
look forward to 10/5
https://gematriaeffect.news/october-5-2020-a-date-to-watch-for-regarding-stock-markets/

>>21974359
Shut the fuck up about your brother unless it has to do with pms
If you need a hugbox goto plebbit

>>21974303
Why so many different types? I'm not mad since I do the same but I was wondering where your mindset is instead of just buying all American Eagles. I did it because of prices and collections also cause some looked cool.

hey anon. My friend wants to strike his own designs on coins...
is it possible to buy rounds/bars that are totally blank? Or do you have to melt and mold them yourself?

>>21974429
I definitely didn’t understand how hard the chinese were working to crush us.

I didn’t understand why my brother would target my genitals either. But if he crushed that he probably thought he could dispose of a rival forever.

this is now a pirate metals general, post your bullion jewelry

>>21974252
Jpow is our best friend anon, he mooned my gold and silver bags.
Honestly if you have no gold, I would buy some gold.

>>21974343
I'm neutral until the FOMC in September. What I am paying attention to is the fiscal side of things. Because I'm worried that things will actually get very bad out there in another month or so if we don't get another round of stimulus. I think the govt, as crazy as it sounds, has yet to clue in on the fact that they CANNOT ever stop or pull back stimulus without a crash. I think they are looking at some of the recovery numbers, and the stock market and saying "oh maybe we won't need any more stimulus" not knowing there's a lag in the data and the only reason we've had things be as okay as they are so far is because of the stimulus and fed actions already done. But they'll realize it damn quick if the S&P dips 10% in a day again.
So I'm sitting on a bunch of cash getting ready for the next big dip to scoop up some miners, which will moon again after congress passes emergency stimulus after.

>>21974445
They’re likely to review my internet use, so I don’t want to post my stack.

Are asahi 10 ozers worth the premium you think? They’re really nice looking.

>>21974256
>Do boomers understand what anime is? Just wondering
yes
we remember when you had to be 17 to buy porn magazines (that's paper books for you kids) and you couldn't buy them most places because it was borderline illegal and definitely unchristian. So our kids started buying risque comic books to jack off to. Of course the japs have the best jacking comics, so those got popular. Apparently that wasn't good enough so some people started making cartoons of it. Not that you could get those cartoons anywhere because they were also unchristian and the cable TV and local stations (an old form of media using pictures broadcast through the air to your screen) didn't run them. But eventually we got video cassette tapes and the very first thing we made with them was porn (thanks tommy lee and pam). The second thing we made was anime for the teens that wanted to jack off. After that it was all Star Wars.

so yeah, we know what it is and how it got here. We just can't figure out why you guys kept watching it after porn became cheap and easy to find.

>>21974413
Pre orders are sold out. I'm hoping that wasn't the entire stock and that they have some for the release day.
The regular 1oz can be bought here
https://boldpreciousmetals.com/woocommerce-search/keyword/fafnir/search-in/product/cat-in/all/search-other/product

>>21974506
Literally mcfucking kill yourself. Nobody loves you because you're a whiny piece of shit. Go away.

>>21974517
Many thanks, fren

>>21974451
>Why so many different types?
because im retarded

I think the next time I buy its gonna be 90% junk for the most part.
I probably will buy a bunch of cheap rounds along with it.

>>21974525
>insults from a nostack

>>21974528
Anytime anon.

>>21974343
>DXY continues to fall
>silver breaks 30
>gold breaks 2100
>hurricane laura gets followed up by another hurricane that rapes the Carolinas and/or florida

>>21974494
I'm not sure what would really change from now until FOMC - it seems to me that they're just going to officially enact average inflation targeting; the House is in session the week of the 7th & votes the week of the 14th (same week as Fed meeting) It's unlikely they'll have announced a deal by the time of the Fed meeting, so the Fed will probably just reiterate the need for another round of stimulus [bullish for pm]

They said in the minutes no YCC / too big of drawbacks; it's unlikely we'd see a collapse big enough to warrant YCC in the next two weeks - so it's unlikely they'd push for YCC or even give YCC guidance [a wash / if anything regarding YCC mentioned = bullish for PM]

It's also likely that they'll point to weaknesses in the economy / point to the rise in unemployment & jobless claims (that we'll likely be seeing) [bullish for PM]

What are you expecting to come out that would make you more bullish?

>>21974593
Laura in my office has some massive jugs

>>21974372
All that hand drawn goodness...now we are stuck with CGI garbage today

Look who just got here all the way from France

Shes a real beauty

>>21974525
>>21974445

Shut your filthy little mouth, internet bully-boy. Nobody wants you here.

>>21974220
This is the kind of chick I’m spending my merc dimes on

>>21974525
post your stack then, go ahead.

>>21974649
>What are you expecting to come out that would make you more bullish?
Like you said them reiterating the need for further stimulus. What I'd like the most is more specific future guidance. Something like "we will meet increased inflation targets through doing X, Y, and Z" or "we would consider YCC if we saw X, Y, and Z".
What will make me really bullish is more fiscal. That's what I honestly feel will take gold and silver to the next level. At this point the Fed announcements can give us maybe a slow and steady rise up, but the next moon mission to $2500 and $30 will be because Congress finally passes a $1T+ bill or Trump unlocks TGA funds for another round of direct payments or something.
Unfortunately like I said in my last post, I feel like DC has swallowed its own bullshit and thinks their existing actions were good enough, and we won't get another big fiscal push until there's a market crash like we saw in March. Something that has rich donors calling their pet congressmen and saying "do something or I'm donating to your opponent next election".
Congress needs to be kicked dragging and screaming to realize it, but multi-trillion dollar stimulus bills every few months are going to have to become a necessary part of the foreseeable future. Either that or we have to actually see the bubble pop instead of being reinflated.

>>21974800
Blah blah
Off-topic bullshit gtfo this thread

>>21974800
Will I make it?

>>21974808
Is 400 ounces of silver enough to make it?

>>21974832
No.

>>21974858
Yeah it is. 400 ounces of silver is like 5500 silver dimes and a silver Piece the size of a silver dime has been a days wage for most of human history

>>21974818
>posting based bent boy's stack instead of your own because you obviously don't have one.
SILV shill, is that you? I've missed you so!

>>21974771
Thanks but he’s right.

Even my own mother would rather that I not be around, but lights up with joy at the mention of my brother.

>>21974883
I have 1000oz silver and 15oz gold and I consider myself a stacklet. Maybe if I got up to 2000/20 I would consider myself on the lower bound of having a make it stack.

>>21974901
so get your brother in here and have him post about metals.

jesus it's not that hard

Order came today anons feeling comfy as. Love the antique look on this 2 oz Roman warfare thing from Perth Mint. Came with 3D glasses too but haven't tried them yet.

I keep my stack in a trapdoor safe beneath the floor of my house

>>21974823
I hope not

>>21974891
Goddammit
You fucking toolshed
I'm not taking a new picture of my shit to satisfy your autism, read the filename you abso facto chode
>>21974901
I wish your brother was posting here instead of you because I'll bet he would stick to on-topic stuff instead of whinging like a retard.

I need your help guys.

My father has $170,000 in a safety deposit box in cash at the bank kek.

I finally convinced him to accept gold and silver into his life...almost. I tried a couple months ago and he immediately dismissed the idea claiming "Cash is king son!" and other boomer tier logic. I gave up since I was still new and browsing /pmg/ myself and in the process of accumulating my own stack. I talked to him recently and he wants to go to an LCS and browse some bullion sites but he needs the final push on why to buy gold and silver. I have a few talking points but I would like some quick and easy effective things I could mention to him. He doesnt even need to convert all of it to metal maybe like 15% idk.

He sold a lot of really rare comics over the years at some shows and saved it. With all the money printing the fed is doing I feel uneasy about him keeping straight cash and the whole cash in king mentality. I dont want him to think it was all a mistake because spot drops for a while before the inevitable bull run.

Also do LCS need ID or anything when making large purchases? Do they report it? I never made a big purchase in person before. Idk what is considered big anyway.

>>21974818
> Folding your gold like paper fiat
Is this a meme?

>>21974322
32 year old checking in. Cowboy Bebop is still my all time favorite. FLCL is also an amazing coming of age story that really hit me when I was in highschool.

>>21974517
Any idea what the price is on it? I’d love to grab one when they’re released but I have a feeling it’s going to be hundreds of dollars

>>21974938

>>21974920
>>21974883
It really depends on what you mean by "make it". Do you want to be able to buy an army after the collapse? or a small gang to protect you? or pay for the 28 children and 5 wives you have? in that case, yes you'll need 2000 oz Silver and 20 oz of Gold. If you are just looking to survive and feed your small family for the time it takes to get to a point where you can get a normal job again and get to a place where there is stability, then no way do you need that much. I'd advise continuing to stack no matter how much you have, but don't sweat it if you don't have literal THOUSANDS of ounces.

>>21974958
I wish it was, I'm going to bend my other bar when gold hits 3k

>>21974256
I used to watch neon genesis, ninja scroll, Akira all the time but haven't watched to many years. I'm not a boomer but I collect shiny boomer rocks... Another shot of the Roman two oz

>>21974963
>FLCL
based. I just told my wife about it, she is quite a bit younger than me, so she hasn't seen it, we are gonna watch it this week.

I love that we started off the week crashing and then ended higher than the week before

>>21974963
i saw cowboy bebop on cartoon network first, so it ruined it for me. but its still a pretty decent anime.
trigun and kenshin were more my style of absurd slap stick comedy lol

>>21974950
Holding cash has been a bad idea since the gold standard was dropped in 1971. Every single year the purchasing power of that cash diminishes. If he spends more than $9,999 in a single transaction (or on multiple transactions in a single day) then the dealer has to report it to the IRS.

https://www.jmbullion.com/reportable-bullion-transactions-infographic/

>>21975010
I showed it to a lot of the various girls I had be seeing over the years. Most liked it, but I had to explain what was going on lel.

Got some Germania Silver from 2019 and 2020 allegories series. Sexy women have to appreciate in value because of coomers

>>21975026
What about doing 5k and a few different coin shops in person and repeating it the next week or a few days later?

>>21975041
>girls be like
>what is that coming out of his head
>what do they make in that factory
>why does she have a guitar
SHUT UP AND WATCH THE DAMN SHOW

>>21974993
shit, /pmg will die from pajeet spammers long before then.
hell i'll probably be impregnating my filipino wife by then but hit me up lol

>>21974933
That is incredibly based. Also checked. You just gave me a neat little idea I want to do myself.

Consider two trapdoors. One real one with your real stack, and a dummy fake trapdoor that looks just as good as that one with fake chink silver and gold from alibaba and wish.com as a dummy stack. Just in case.

>>21975027
>tfw I will never again be a 5 year old waking up every day at 5 AM to watch Rurouni Kenshin and Lupin the 3rd at 5AM on Adult Swim

Man being a first grader, watching Home Movies, Super Milk Chan, Space Ghost and Harvey Birdman on the daily made me REALLY edgy back then, to say the least

>>21975073
The dealers have no obligation to file. You have to keep in mind that most people engaged in the sale of a thing rarely understand the laws surrounding it. You'll run into LCS owners who report every single transaction because they're retarded, but I imagine they're in the minority. A lot of dealers understand that one of the draws of their product is the desire for it to be off the radar.

>>21974984
>don't sweat it if you don't have literal THOUSANDS of ounces
You pathetic lout. Are you a man or a rodent? Would you climb half a mountain? Sculpt half a statue? Would you take this one life you were given and aim for anything less than greatness? There is only one "making it" and there only ever has been, and it is not mediocre wealth but true riches and independence. And you don't deserve it.
I'll be appealing your metals membership to the Council of 12 and I fully expect them to revoke your stacker status which is the least of what you deserve.

I now own the whole series of the Colombia and Germania 1,2,5,10 Oz coins

>>21974984
This is bullshit. 99% of the population doesn’t even own gold or silver and those that do probably have less than 100 ounces of silver.

You could walk up to 1,000 random people and none of them would have 400 ounces.

A monster box will be a make it stack easily

Love these women haha

>>21975137
>when coins over 1 ounce are not wider in size but instead simply taller

Disgusting.

>>21975097
I like that idea Anon. Ain't nobody getting this stack!

>>21975027
>trigun and kenshin were more my style of absurd slap stick comedy lol
You, my friend, need to watch Slayers. Some of their stuff is absolutely hysterical. It's also old.

>>21975147
When I make it I'll have a few monster boxes just for giggles
>>21975163
Supposed to be the tallest coin only 250 made kek but yeah I agree

I've been buying silver mostly because of the historic ratio between gold and silver has been massively decoupled over the years. Now that's it's gone down from the insane highs it was a few weeks ago should I start scrimping together money to buy gold? Or is the ratio still juicy enough to make a bigger killing on silver?

>>21975137
Those proportions are comical

SHE THICC

>>21975177
yeah i liked slayers up until my 20's and i just quickly lost taste for it, kind of odd i still laugh at ranma 1/2 when i see it every few years....

>>21975097
nono, what you do is you put a safe in your drawers/ under the bed (if someone is staying in your house long enough to find and open the trapdoor, then they have enough time to crack an easily found safe first.) and fill it with cash and maybe a cheap watch. THEN you put the good shit in the real trapvault. Usually in the wardrobe with a custom carpet fit so you cant find the edges.

>>21974984
>>21975115
>>21975147
>>21974883
>>21974920
>am I gonna make it

Last I heard, 1 oz of silver in Venezuela was like 6 months of food. Back when spot was $20 or so and the USD had value. Idk about complete global economic collapse but I imagine it would still buy about the same.

I would honestly say that 100 oz is more than make it considering historically as another anon has said, a merc dimes silver content was about a daily wage.

>not wanting thousands of ounces to buy your own nation and space fleet and 1000 virgin wives and-

I mean you could sure. Might as well

>>21975193
Yeah since everyone loves nigger tier propositions I thought it was a good investment haha

>>21974248
She looks anorexic.

>>21975262
Did you listen to her and buy silver though?

Love the back detail

>all caps ID
Checked.

>>21975225
>>21975115
I say stack as much as you can, I've been buying every week for most of my life. But don't give these poor guys a heart attack by thinking they need 40,000 ounces of silver and 200 ounces of gold to "make it". Stack what you can, put in the work, and when the time comes, you'll not only survive, but thrive. Someday our "money" will be as useless as this foreign currency. Just they fact that you're a) in this thread and 2) buying PM's tells me you're probably gonna make it.

>>21975207
This shit is hidden under the carpet, you'll never be able to tell it's there.

Another of the ten oz next to a one oz

1 more oz. for the stack

Man I always wanted some of the baby 1/10 oz. Walkers just for the novelty

>>21975300
Damn bro, that's dope. Is it actually cut in the concrete foundation or do you have a crawl space or something under your house?

>>21975300
When the government raids our houses 2 years from now with metal detectors, I dont think we stand a chance bro

>>21975242
Them jugs boi

>>21975225
Exactly. Like I said also above. How many people in America have 500 ounces of silver legitimately? Maybe 20,000 Americans? How many people have 2,000 ounces? Maybe 5,000 Americans?

If almost nobody owns any silver it isn’t like 2,000 ounces is going to make it for you and 400 ounces won’t.

In fact I think it HAS to be where even as little as 30-50 ounces is marginally making it.

Because I’m sure there are maybe 5-10% of Americans who maybe around 50 ounces just from grandparents passing it down and stuff. It can’t just be a society where nobody makes it unless you have 2,000 ounces of silver since nobody has 2,000 ounces of silver in America.

>>21975328
* Proportions
Kek

>>21975300
Arrr haaa there be silver under da carpet

>>21974303
Get at least one ounce of gold, and spend 2000 on the cheapest silver you can get (Asahi rounds, Buffalo rounds can be had cheapest right now). After that, buy some that aesthetically pleasing you with the leftovers, even if it's a little more expensive. Wish I had that kind of capital to throw at my stack right now. Only reason I even try trading crypto is specifically to stack. Congrats on your Linkies, and glad to see you stacking!

>>21975317
Yep its cut into the concrete

>>21975291
I 100% believe that 1 ounce of silver bought equals 2 weeks of wages post deflationary collapse, like if used to be and still it in much of the world today.

So 500 ounces of silver will be the equivalent of like 20 years worth of days wages.

So when the rest happens... that 500 ounce stack will be like being a wagie at McDonalds for 20 years and not spending any of those wages and having it all saved up for you

>>21975352
I was just thinking about this

When some fucker says “I have 1k toz silver and 20 oz gold and Im a stacklet” I just think to myself “how many people in this country have even 10 toz. Silver and 0.5 toz gold? Like fucking none.

>>21975321
Detect this metal, muhfucka

>>21975399
Checked for infinite QE and there's literally NOTHING wrong with that goy don't be anti Semitic

>>21975398
I just got myself a safe small enough to fit into the floor. However, it's an antique and weighs almost 1,000 lbs. Imma post pictures of it tomorrow.

>>21975409
You're right

>>21975444
jesus... that get...

>>21975450
I'll be here to see it

>>21974933
Shoulda done it in steel

>>21975450
Thats dope as fuck

>>21975399
Beautiful math anon. You've inspired me to up my stack it's equivalent to 20 years of a comfy sw drone post collapse

>>21975073
Most dealers in the midwest don't report it

Sup fren... i am on ep. 25 of LotGH. Loving it so far. I think we closed above the meme triangles for gold and silver today. I will chart it later if I don't get too drunk first.

>>21975612
LoTGH is GOAT. So many great characters, so many great arcs, such glory, such tragedy.

>>21975398
Nice, but for some reason that image made me want to browse /diy/ again.

>>21975650
This could be you

>>21975225
That dime wage is kindve accurate- it applies to laborers. It grew in the late 19th century and was closer to 1-2$ a day depending on occupation, laborers still made well under a dollar though. Higher values applied to skilled tradesmen. But basically if you have about 200 oz it would be the equivalent of a median trade jobs' year's salary in the coffer- so figure 60-80k in today's dollars. That's life changing money for all us poorfags & wagecucks.

>>21975817
What about an ounce of gold then

>>21974209
Not sure. Gdx has been doing well. I bought in assuming it is safe stock through our bull market + recession. I dont understand this market.

>>21975399
>1 ounce of silver bought equals 2 weeks of wages post deflationary collapse
This would mean my 6 month old son has the equivalent of 2 or so years of minimum wage labor without having done anything. that makes me incredibly hopeful.

Gold first. Looks like we closed about the meme triangle today boys. Bullish AF. Going to open at $2,000+ on Monday.

>>21975841
Historically the ratio was 15 ounces of silver equated 1 oz of gold so you can do the math on that. Right now though the ratio is fucked so silver presents the bigger potential. A few ounces of gold won't hurt- I'm trying to stay around 2.5 myself but I might bump to 3.

>>21975915
What's this. Silver broke above the meme triangle too? I think this means the train is leaving the station...

>>21974941
>I wish your brother was posting here instead of you because I'll bet he would stick to on-topic stuff
No.
He would talk to you about himself and the Kardashians.

>>21975398
fucking rad, new idea for when I can afford a home.

...which my family I guess thinks should be never

Anyone ever get "your item was forwarded to another address" when getting silver delivered via USPS?

>>21975976
I bought this house, I just hope I can pay it off quickly

>>21975994
the USPS has been playing stupid games recently, its only a matter of time before they win stupid prizes lol

>>21975976
It's ok have some tiny medieval indian silver. This coin is incredibly rare if it makes you feel better.

>>21975958
>>21975915
Neet. I might actually be right then, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>21975291
Thought that was Canadian Tire money in the thumbnail kek.

>>21976017
I've never had an issue getting my deliveries with USPS. That being said, I'm not in a city.

Serious question bros:

Ive drank alcohol every night for the mast 3 weeks

Am I am /alcoholic/ now? Its a big part of why I keep buying shit

>>21974926
Nice

>>21975267
Yes.

>>21976085
How many alcohols per night?

>>21976085
Depends. How much are you drinking? Why are you drinking? Has your drinking impacted your health in any noticeable way? Has it impacted your relationships in any noticeable way?

I was a full-blown alkie for about 4 and a half years, killed 3 fifths a weekend and half a fifth a weeknight for almost that entire period. Shit sucked man, I wouldn't recommend that life to anyone.

LINKfag, if you want silver for the happening, here is a cart for you.

***When making this cart I discovered MM has <5 tubes of mercs left, so get 'em while they have 'em.

>>21976134
Not much of a point for getting ASEs over generic rounds if you're just looking to stack.

>>21976129
Yeah I been there bruh, a fifth of Scotch a night is no way to live

>>21976120
Maybe 3-4 oz vodka, or a few beers, but its every night now
>>21976129
My girlfriend mentioned to me earlier how I keep buying vodka (Grey Goose never makes me hungover) and I realized that I go through a bottle a week now, whereas before a bottle would last me months. Its maybe 5 oz a night max but im scared bros.

Should we be stacking alcohol for when the world ends? I imagine the premiums would be insane...

>>21976153
The point here is that ASE's will get you further than generics in a hypothetical American Mad Max situation since that's what half the boomers are stacking them for. It's not what I would go for personally.

>>21976134
I bought another roll of those mercs about an hour ago. lol.

>>21976020
thanks fren very cool

it does make me feel better
but then I remember that for every coin I can buy to keep this money "safe", my brother can buy at least 20, and that's the way my family wants it.

Any ancient numismatics that can still be got for a reasonable price? Where did you get that one?

>>21976117

>>21976134
Just a heads up all the $10fv have the same amount of silver in them you are paying premium for different designs

>>21976215
dude just shut up, no one cares about your sob stories. were on a anonymous message board for a reason...

>>21976215
Bro why the fuck are you comparing yourself to your borther so fucking much give it a rest

>>21976188
Okay. It sounds to me like you're drinking due to some kind of stress or a recent life change. If that's the case, I would recommend talking to your gf or a close friend or family member about whatever issue drives you to the bottle. Protip: everyone who goes looking for answers or an escape can never find it at the bottom of a bottle. The only thing that's left when the bottle is empty is the need to find another full one. Reach out, man. Don't be like me or this guy >>21976185, killing a fifth a night is one of the easiest ways to send yourself to man's pure self-made hell.

>>21976194
I mean... If there is a collapse and we're in a Venezuelan-like scenario the numismatics of a coin aren't going to mean shit. Silver is silver is silver at that point. If that's what you're prepping for (I am, too) then there really is no point in paying higher premiums for ASEs.

>>21976185
Personally I've been off the alcohol and on the silver. I don't wake up hung over and I'm losing weight plus silver doesn't turn into peepee.

>>21976320
it's not numismatics, it's recognition and trust. And I'm not prepping for Venezuela either, I'm personally prepping for cyberpunk hell.

>>21976229
mercs and walking libs are worth the extra $ in any scenario.

>>21976320
What if there’s not a collapse, but just a meaningful depreciation of the dollar?
That’s my reason for buying metal.

>>21976287
Because it hurts I guess and I can’t make it stop and I want to understand it. And everyone involved does NOT want me to understand it, and wants to keep me confused and scared and miserable.

>>21976373
Bro if shit gets that bad you'd best believe I'm cutting and/or remelting any kind of metal I get my grubby little hands on. I wouldn't trust anything at that point.

>>21976307
Good advice, I think its my job for sure man...

Drunk or not im going to keep stacking though

>>21976373
>>21976403
I'd invest in a SigmaMetalytics verifier, tbqh. Then again, I also very much dislike purchasing sovereign-minted coins.

>>21976373
Mercs and Walkers are straight kino and fuck anyone saying otherwise

>>21976415
feel free to melt the 2021 ASE's the fuckers deserve it for putting a RFID chip in them...
but leave my walking liberties alone lol

>>21976333
Nice trips. I barely drink anymore, I smoke a little pot, fool around in stonks, and any money I make there plus my wageslave paycheck goes to silver.

>>21975528
14 silver dimes equals 1 ounce of silver. 1 silver dime is historically a days wage. So 1 ounce of silver bought for 30$ equals 2 weeks worth of wages post deflationary collapse.

I even think it will be as much as 2-5x as valuable tho. Because there is much less silver available and billions more people on the planet.

So a silver dime could equal as much as a 3-6 days wage.

And when you think about it... I think it may have to work that way because even after the reset and silver becoming more valuable, there’s still lots of silver out there whether in smallish stacks that grandma passed down. Heck even if you only have 10 ounces of silver from grandma if 1 silver dime equals the equivalent of 5 days wages.... then those 10 ounces of even 5 ounces will get a family by for weeks/months until things normalize.

The stacking community is very very very small. But there are probably a good % of Americans who have 10-50 ounces just from hand me downs from grandparents and I think those small amounts will have to be worth a fuck ton just to get enough people through the period after the reset until things start stabilizing again

>>21976458
Id love to have a Walking Liberty half with the same detailed strike as the modern Eagles

Fucking HELL is hard to find one with even most of the hand intact. Tough strike

>>21976403
Listen kid, this isn't the place for your interpersonal issues. I helped the other guy because alcoholism was a problem I've had in the past and it's actually a pretty easy fix as long as you have good people around you and you catch it early. Your problems, whatever they are, will require you to find a sympathetic ear and someone willing and able to help you. That's not going to be here no matter how much you talk about PMs in between complaining about your situation. My advice? Move the fuck out and find people who aren't so caustic to be around. Other than that, please, shut up about your brother, it's off-topic and I have very little sympathy for annoying prats.

>>21976215
It's ok I can relate- rest of the family got coddled and I got told to leave when I graduated. Ancients are best bought for cheap- and most likely anything that looks like a turd is worth about as much. All the ancientfags have accounts on Vcoins and charge AIDS prices. The best place to pick them up is Ebay auctions or LCSs where you can get a nice denarius for 20-30 bucks. I bought this one on Ebay years ago- one of my favorite coins.

>>21976483
i had to cut back on my smoking, sometimes i forget i need cash for the dispensaries lol
but fuck man i started eating 2000mg of motrin a day when i started cutting back...
ohwell means i have more silver...

>>21976522
>there are probably a good % of Americans who have 10-50 ounces just from hand me downs from grandparents
I think this is a way over estimation. I doubt most Americans have access to even 5 ounces, and most of that will probably come from "costume" jewelry like rings that are sold to high school aged girls. I really doubt most families could even find 15 ounces of silver amongst extended family. I think you're giving a lot of credit, most of those people who were handed down silver probably immediately sold it like this guy on Pawn Stars.
https://youtu.be/Vdw5Dvb-XBk

>>21976550
>2000mg of motrin
The fuck?

>>21976442
Jeez that’s so expensive!!
Do you know how many little chunkers I could buy for $800!

>>21976535
Buy a 1947 - it will cost 30-50 usd. They're cheap even in high grades. They are one of the most popular series so they're easy to find.

>>21975817
Nah... the 200 ounces will literally be a Kings ransom. It will be much more valuable than a current years salary. Like I said above almost nobody owns 200 ounces of silver. So in a reset what do you think happens when virtually nobody has metal? Main Street is melting down and you have your 200 ounce stack and go get in your car to go pay 10$ gas with your Kennedy’s and then go through the drive thru at Starbucks to get your Frappuccino while wild roving gangs of niggers are raping housewives in the street 100 yards away from the drive thru window your at?

Everyone is going to become diet poor. There will be a new currency. That 200 ounces of silver will probably buy you a 30 unit apartment complex free and clear, then you accept the new currency and live like a king... and you are making so much with no mortgage that you can even offer 5 of your apartments for free to formerly well to do housewives for blowjobs monthly for rent.

>>21976602
oh sorry motrin is the brand name of ibuprofen, and your average pill is 200mg, so i just eat like 10 ib profens a day lol

>>21976605
12 if you pay with a bank wire or check.

>>21976600
Oh yeah it’s certainly not most but even say 15% of the population owning that small amount would end up being enough to get them thru a few months to a year.

>>21976373
>it's not numismatics, it's recognition and trust
that's being destroyed by millions of fake chinese ASE's flooding the market as we speak. China is making far more ASE's than the US is.

>>21976538
But maybe, like you had experience to share about alcoholism, other anons can share their perspectives.

Man just let me have this, I’m not going to be bitching forever and I have so little. Even my little stack isn’t much. But it’s growing.

>>21976621
I have one, I actually have a full set minus two dates. Bro im telling you the strike on the halves was almost aleays bad.

Pic related is a MS67 1947, a 1300 dollar coin, still very little hand detail, and at that high on the grading scale, strike matters.

I still love Walkers though. God theyre gorgeous

>>21976651
Wewwwww that’s pretty cool!

How old do you think a kid has to be before it can appreciate silver? I kinda want to give something to my little cousins.

>>21976650
But why tho?

>>21976679
this is a valid point, in the next year or so i would even say we need to watch out for fakes from respectable dealers.
i worry about people sneaking one in their tube, and some low wage person not giving a fuck and not closely checking all of them...

>>21976674
I mean, I wear a Silver chain from time to time, and if I go by your logic on Silver's worth post-collapse, it would be enough to feed my family for a week. So I guess your probably right, mom's old "costume" ring would be able to feed the family dinner.

>>21976765
I think dealers will check 'em, but I worry about them circulating in casual transactions and then when someone goes to sell they find out they got a batch of fakes. The average person might lose trust. From what I can see they're selling really fast, so we're about to see a lot of buyers lose trust.

>>21976307
Any advice how to quit kratom anon, really struggling with it

>>21976647
I hope. Been trying to find a chart I saw once that shows how much gold, silver, and platinum each person in the world would have if divided equally. I think with silver it's like 1/10 of a gram or something

>>21976679
Damn Doobies and they Chinese grove!

Having a comfy night in metal chads

>>21976685
Again - this isn't the thread, or the board for it. 4chan isn't just /biz/. If you need to vent there's a half-dozen other boards you can post threads in to vent. I hope your life gets better, I really do, but please realize that this is not the place.
>>21976765
I'm seriously tempted to get my entire stack melted and restruck because of shit like this. Sure, it'll cost me, but the peace of mind would be well worth it.
>>21976818
Same advice as I gave the other guy but smoke weed instead of doing kratom.

>>21976741
oh, ummm without going into to much detail i have arthitis, and broken a few ribs over the years.
if i do almost no exercise, it doesn't bug me to much. but heres a weird example, i can't cross my legs for more then a couple minutes without it hurting, but when i smoke weed i can cross my legs for hours without issue. its just little things like that, that i take for granted lol

>>21976826
It is bro don’t worry. My gut tells me that 200 ounces is going to be way more than enough. I think even 100 ounces will put you in the free and clear

>>21976826
It just makes total sense that 200 ounces would be a shit ton considering virtually nobody has 200 ounces. If less than 1% of the population owns 200 ounces of silver then how the hell will that not be a fuck ton when the reset happens?

>>21976861
On that second point, when buying from a dealer, is this something to be concerned with? I bought a 2013 panda and someone here said they're notorious for being faked. I wouldn't think the owner of a local dealer would let something like this slip, but it's worth asking.

>>21976714
Whoever graded that liberty is borderline retarded. This is a 64- they probably used the weak strike meme to compensate, but 64 & 65 is where strike boldness starts to matter.

>>21975915
>open on "Monday" (do you live in Japan..?)
>performing TA on a heavy manipulated asset
These are the people giving advice in /pmg/

>>21976679
Its why you need to have unpolished circulated 90%, I have yet to find any that pass

>>21976861
I used kratom to help me quit juuling but it’s just as bad

>>21976944
>they're notorious for being faked
everything is being faked right now. Popular rounds, mint bars, essentially every US silver and gold coin ever.

dealers can spot fakes, they most likely won't be buying or selling them. If you're really worried you can buy slabbed stuff since the guarantee companies are experts at spotting fakes, But then the chinese are also faking slabs.

>>21976945
No man its not Liberty’s right hand (the one reaching out) but her left hand (holding the branches). The finger details are just near non existent for almost any year, including in your pic. Compare it to a 1$ eagle and youll see what I mean.

>>21977012
Fuck.

Any of these online dealers particularly sketchy?

>>21977010
>using kratom to quit juuling
You're a special kind of stupid. Smoke weed.
>>21976944
Fact is, nobody knows how widespread the fakery is because nobody melts their shit, especially those mint fresh packs and sealed monster boxes. I'll bet a bunch of those are actually fake.

>>21976218
She still needs to eat something.

>>21976886
>>21976909
I think everyone here will do well. The degree of how well remains to be seen, but I really wish everyone the best. Have a rare 960 Reis because it's neat.

>>21977012
The owner of my shop has been doing this all his life, so there is that assurance I suppose. I may read the OP on the acod test more thoroughly at least on that one. If anything, it just adds to my knowledge on it all, and you can never be too knowledgeable

>>21977012
>buying Chinese
lmao

>>21977056
TFW thinking about buying a sealed monster box from JMB

Don’t say this!

>>21976945
It might've been graded by a second or third tier grader; they tend to inflate grades in order to make up for the fact that the slabs aren't as recognized.

>>21976979
>I have yet to find any that pass
yeah, anyone that knows coins is going to spot the fakes pretty easy. There's a lot of people that don't know coins though. We've seen a few here.

>>21977054
>Any of these online dealers particularly sketchy?
/pmg/ can tell you where to buy online, I don't know. I just watch fakes being sold on alibaba and facebook and ebay.

>>21977041
Let me reiterate, I have an almost full set, I love Walkers and appreciate their finer details, imo the best strikes I have are 1939 and 1939-D

>>21976134
thanks

>>21977129
Bet. There was that one guy here the other day who posted a truckbed of monster boxes. It would be awesome if he ripped open every one, melted the whole batch, and reported back to us with how many of them were actually real.

>>21976650
bitch wtf, how have you not died from internal bleeding, how are your kidneys still working?!

...WTF

>>21975388
thanks
wish i fucking bought more

>>21977174
Makes sense... I guess I will just buy SLV then, seems like the safer option. At least I will have peace of mind

>>21977100
it's fun stuff to know. Be careful with nitric, it's no joke to handle and work with.

>>21977216
SLV is even worse. At least physical has a chance of being real. SLV is worth jack dick.

>>21977183
Horrible for liver too

>>21977183
in the army they said 2400mg was daily max,
now days they seem to say around 1800mg...
but nah bro Mattis was eating way more motrin for years and his liver never dared fail him lol

>>21977216
The only time I fool with SLV is if I want to speculate on silver short term

>>21977010
>I used kratom to help me quit juuling

>>21977041
Took a look this is a tough search. I think it can be done though- the 1945s seem to have the boldest strikes out of the cheaper coins. I'd look at those- found a few that were partial hands.

>>21977256
So mining stocks then? Physical seems risky from possible forgeries, and SLV is worthless? How does a novice enter?

>>21977338
love the whitman album toning

>>21977348
ordering from the mint directly usually works... but its also expensive

>>21977348
just buy physical from reputable dealers is all.

I'm not trying to scare anyone off buying silver, I'm just saying public trust is being eroded by fakes.

>>21977216
If you're going to buy paper silver for the long-term buy PSLV (not SLV)
Lurk moar to get the full story as to why, but quick rundown:
>SLV stockpile was picked up by JP Morgan after Bear Stearns acquisition
>JPM has used this reserve to sell MASSIVE shorts
>The numbers of ounces in the inflow/outflow are unbelievable / people think possibly fraudulent
>JPM was indicted / it's accepted & common knowledge they have been manipulating silver
>a lot of people think that SLV is fractional reserved out 100x / is destined to fail
>a lot of people think that this month of September will be the real 'stress' on deliveries

However, with that said, if you're doing day/swing options trading, you're going to want to do SLV options as the liquidity is the best you'll find - you just risk losing everything if SLV goes belly up

(Personally, I'm not too sure. I think that JPM has been acquiring silver at extremely low prices through their shorts, and has been covering the shorts & is about to go long with the largest silver stockpile in history - I think that the volatility the past few weeks has been shorts being covered, and then driven back down)

Here's a good video for you for understanding SLV / JP Morgan's role
https://youtu.be/9EOPKizJ_Y4

>>21977338
Rule of thumb, the San Francisco Mint always made the best struck coins for just about any denomination.

>>21977348
Physical of course, buy local and in 10-ounce denominations from mints you trust. Realistically, the only things that would economical to fake that would slip under people's radar for a really long time would be mint sealed/monster box rounds and large bars (kg/10kg/100kg/100oz/1000oz). I think some 1 oz bars are suspect because you can make them cheap out of molybdenum with a silver wrapper, and some (especially chinese) 1oz rounds are pretty suspect too.

>>21977338
Yeah man I know, its almost impossible, pic related is an MS68+ (god what a fucking beauty) and STILL no full hand.

Also that toning is artificial

>>21977388
>tfw mint currently has "sold out" of its silver + most gold products.

>>21977495
>that toning is artificial
nah, that one's real.

rare, but almost impossible to fake. It's from the sulfur content in the cardboard of the old whitman folders. Extremely valuable, highly collectible.

>>21977456
This isnt always true fren, the 1944-S is a notoriously poorly struck Walker, I would know, I have an MS 64 example, pic related. And yet she is still a beauty

>>21977056
>Use a third drug to quit
And I’m the stupid one

>>21977338
Nah man, to me that looks artificial, pic related. Whitman toning is more yellowish and is generally crescent patterned

>>21977456
I meant 1945's - just plural. Also this is probably cheating but the proofs have nice detail and are affordable'ish. Seems like you might be able to get one for 4-6 with nearly full hand

>>21977598
dude marijuana is barely a drug, but i agree with him weed is great for helping to get off other drugs, and it doesn't have the addiction problems of other drugs

>>21976855
checked. This looks like the scene from a movie before an alcoholic nearly kills himself, but decides not to at the last minute. Oddly comfy in a sleaze-core kind of way

>>21977598
Fuckwit, if you're going to be doing shit that fucks you up, at least do the one that fucks you up the least. If you don't have enough good people in your life you will never stop using substances in a vain attempt to change yourself, but until that happens you can at least mitigate the damage that you're doing to your body.

>>21977603
it's rare to get a good centered halo but there's a few thousand out there. The one he posted looks real to me.

>>21976869
Bro you'd be better off blazing every day all day than taking that much ibuprofen consistently. Just get a low thc high cbd strain if you don't want to be super high all the time

>>21977450
Just took a look at PSLV. I like the sound of it. Too bad it doesn't have options

Having some issues with the websites anons have suggested, getting better at coding so I can include them as well. Tracking premium data is comfy, working on making it so it collects all day everyday every minute. Don't know how I will release it or what the final format will be but this is a start.

>>21977626
>proofs

Now we are talking about something else. Proof struck Walkers are gorgeous, god. All of them were struck at the Philadelphia mint btw.

Beautiful coin in your pic

>>21977681
This is the premium on silver eagles. Once I get this squared away I will do random 1 oz rounds as well as they are often some of the cheapest silver ounces on most websites.

Silver 30+ EOY
Check em

1:28 AM on pmg this is my life

>>21977673
CBD's are a meme
i can smoke 60%+ cbd vapes all day and it barely does anything.
a few puffs off some thc with almost no cbds and i'm already feeling better...
i'm a wagie i have to sober up everytime i switch jobs, thats life for ya though, theres always ups and downs...

>>21977603
>>21977495
Yeah- it's an easy bake oven job- oil and foil spoil. I like toned morgans myself- shame about the tape mark on this guy.

>>21977771
Go to sleep bro
Sleep is good for you
Dream of gold!

I decided I'm gonna spend it. What would you buy with 3,000?

>>21977837

>>21977495
>didnt post the pic

Man I really am an aloholic now

Pic related, heres some toning that will make you jizz your pants, a real queen of the variety, god what a gem

>>21977808
Man toning is a whole different ballpark, I kind of started dabbling in it with my Mercs for the MS66 short set and it really is like another world within the hobby.

MONSTER TONERS BRO

>>21977837
I would wait to see silver break $30, then immediately go all-in on short-term calls
I think that it would require a lot more patience to wait for it, but would reduce your risk a lot
Once it breaks $30 it's likely to run to $33 easily - if you manage to get in at $30 and buy a short-term call, it continues the run you could make 50-100% on your $3,000
Then you could use that money to buy physical

OR
you could just go all-in on silver coins / bullion

I think you'll win either way, just if you actually did the options play you would jump start your gains
(with that said, you risk losing like $1,500 if it passes $30 and then people take profits & it dumps to $28)

>>21977988
>not buying physical
bro, I'm not looking to make a quick buck. I have plenty of money in other investment opportunities that are way more lucrative than shorting silver. I'm buying Silver/Gold so my son will have wealth after this ponzi scheme called the Federal Reserve starts to fall apart. If you're not buying physical Silver/Gold, then you're just stacking up more paper to keep you warm and roll cigarettes with after this shit breaks down.

>>21977988
Checked and optionspilled

>>21977988
>>21977837
Also, I would wait until Thursday to go all-in
If the unemployment #'s are good, then PM is going to dump (in the short term) and you'll find a better entry price
If the unemployment #'s are bad, then PM will rise, but it's better to catch a wave than 'force' a wave - it won't matter in the end if you lose out on $1-2 per oz waiting

However, if you plan on holding physical for multiple years, it doesn't really matter, just go all-in

I’m the silver bro that accidentally made $4k on options a few days ago
Update on my purchases, I’ve gotten 2 Sovereigns so far, they’re posted and should arrive Monday
Still got 3k left to drop on physical, what am I getting bro’s?

>>21978064
Just get a 100 oz bar

>>21978064
>1 tube eagles
>1 tube maples
>1 tube Krugerrand
>1 tube Britannia

Thats just me

>>21978099
Sounds v tempting, but where to buy them all together at decent premium so that CA 7% tax doesn’t rape me

>>21978092
Also tempting, but probably not. I like kilo bars, 100oz just seems too much, plus going to sell it may be difficult

>>21978040
If you're buying for your son's wealth in the future, you should focus on buying easily recognized / 'popular' coins/bars (ex. Silver American Eagles, Canadian Silver Maple, Asahi Silver Round, Scottsdale Bars)

If you truly think that the whole system is going to come crashing down, you could also get Mercury Dimes for smaller denomination transactions

>>21977771
Honestly, and maybe it's me approaching boomer territory, but I'm ok with it

We’re coming back, boys!!!

>>21978141
I bought a roll of mercury dimes earlier today, but I just said fuck it pulled 3,000 out of the safe and am gonna go spend it in the morning. I've been waiting, but maybe your right, my son would probably like playing with 90% when he gets older. But I outta get him at least a roll of American Eagles, I just hate how expensive the premiums are right now.

>>21977652
I've had enough ups and downs (lately downs) for that to make sense lol

Why do you guys limit your return on investment by buying silver/gold? Stock market is far better.

>>21977540
There are exceptions, but it's a general rule. They started making proofs in San Francisco because the mint there already had a reputation for good quality strikes.

>>21978177
I know you've said you're getting them for your son for the long-term, just be aware that it's possible we see some red days for PM this week with the unemployment #'s coming out Thursday/Friday
with that said, it doesn't really matter if you buy now or after you hear the news since you're holding for years & years - just don't want you to be feeling like you 'ate a loss' if it goes down on good economic news

>>21978255
BTFO nigger

>>21978255
There are a lot of people here who believe that the whole system is coming to an end; and are all in on precious metals as they believe it will be the major wealth after a currency reset

There are others who have 10-20% of their portfolio in precious metals, as everyone should (look up Dragon portfolio)

There are people as well who enjoy the coins / are collectors in the same way that people collect stamps (and rare coins in general)

There are also others (like myself) who trade options on silver, as we're able to look at all of these different indicators
>overseas market price action nearly 24 hours a day
>unemployment / GDP
>coronavirus news
>bond rates
>currency rates
>world events / politics / current events (eg. North Korea coma / Hurricane Laura / coronavirus package)
Compared to trading stock options, there is often much less of an information disadvantage

>>21978278
Regarding Walkers though, the proofs were all made in Philadephia.

There are historical examples where the mints where proofs were struck utilized those same dies for regular strikes too

>>21974265
I've got one. I can take a picture tomorrow or something. I guess I should have bought a few, they're rarely in stock it seems.

>>21974891
This is why trip codes were previously advocated.

>>21978255
It is literally the safest investment you can make. Yeah it can be manipulated, but the manipulating is done through trading the stocks involved with it. Physically owning your wealth as opposed to something representing a business that could literally evaporate at a moment's notice is the kind of security you can't place a price on. Plus it's about as forward thinking as you can get. You can pass it down to future generations if you don't find yourself in some economic apocalypse (which I truly see happening with the way Powell is talking about inflation).

Not to say I don't play stocks or crypto, because I do. But that's just it: I play them. This is investment at it's most fundamental, time tested and historical level.

>>21978363
>unemployment / GDP
>coronavirus news
I'm surprised you can glean anything from these two, especially moving forward. What do they tend to indicate?

>>21978618
wat?
are you serious?

>>21978618
Bad news. Bad, bad news. The only thing keeping the rona from becoming boomer remover is the shutdown of the economy, which is in turn mashing GDP, and pumping unemployment up to record levels. The V-shaped recovery is a myth. Food crops are getting shredded on every continent by natural disasters. The election isn't a choice anymore, it's just the death knell. Neither choice of president will be able to stop the insanity to come.

>>21974158
silver or gold

>>21978636
This data is meme garbage. The headlines are fluff and the info is fluff.
>muh record gainz
>muh aggregates
>muh Phillips
It literally has no good measure on the underlying conditions and should only move speculator noise. I'm usually really horrible at timing markets, so I really don't understand the use of literal bullshit that ignores the BS's.

>>21978674
I'm surprised the states are playing chicken with the federal government on the budgets. It's fun watching Trump play straight from the Art of War, but corona and the retard vaccine wishes for GDP recovery are shit anyone who's accumulated more than two pennies should be able to see through. The balance sheets and budgets are already so fucked up that the tax headwinds are going to rape everyone anyway unless we helicopter another 10T or so would be my guess. Maybe 1T for individuals. 5T for businesses and kickbacks, 4T for governments.

>>21978281
I'm not selling for a LONG time if ever. I mean it's extremely unlikely I will ever sell and Gold or Silver. I actually may hang on to some of my PM money and wait a few day, we might see a few dollar drop in PM's if there is a change.

>>21978529
>War Nickels.
Based. I'm so obsessed with war nickels right now. I've been buying a ton of them. I don't know why I never thought about buying them before a couple weeks ago.

>>21978851
I bought 80% of my silver in 2003 and have kept it ever since

Hold forever bros

>>21978825
It doesn't matter if the info is bullshit if the market treats it like truth
(eg. Convalescent plasma causes the market to rally - everyone knew it was bullshit, but it is still a catalyst regardless)


The gains & losses for the dollar are very, very real as it comes to the price of gold & silver. You need to start looking at your silver & gold like a currency, not like a 'stock'. If the dollar goes up, your 'currency' goes down. If the dollar goes down, your 'currency' goes up

>>21978825
Most likely, yeah. Silver and gold are the last safe havens after everything else collapses, right? Cryptos now too, to a certain extent. Either way, none of the other "safe" investments are worth anything anymore, because they've been levered up to hell and back, then pumped up with inflation. RE is worthless because nobody can afford it anymore. Stocks are worthless because of excessive leverage and overvaluation. Bonds are worthless because BRRRRRRRRRRR. The markets are on a razor's edge, and all it will take is the slightest movement to unbalance the whole assembly and it all comes crashing down.

>>21978911
I bought these coins and this necklace as a kid. I think I paid 7ish an ounce. ALWAYS HOLD, NEVER FOLD.

Can anyone explain to me how crypto is “safe” exactly?

In the event of nuclear war/a massive solar flare where the fuck is crypto going? Nowhere.

Meanwhile I can clink my coins together all day long

>>21968802
suck a dick dumb shit

>>21978884
I'll probably get some more when I'm buying again assuming the price is good. Probably a tube of mercs too.

>>21978914
>It doesn't matter if the info is bullshit if the market treats it like truth
I understand this, but I'm really not good at trading it. I guess I was asking more about the party of the cycle or indication. Not that you need to answer, I'm sure you don't need other anons crowding your markets.
>You need to start looking at your silver & gold like a currency
I'll keep viewing gold and silver as money and currency. I treat it like a dual system (at least untill we hit $50 spot+premium), like a majority of anons where PM is the obviously superior currency. I try having better entries by timing, but I know I'm horrendous at charting and keeping up with the market relative to the news cycle.

>>21978976
>Silver and gold are the last safe havens after everything else collapses, right?
What collapses? The better PMs might be lead and copper for distillers. Currencies don't have to collapse for PM to moon. In fact, it's likely that in a big collapse, PM will lose value relative to goods, but it will likely go much further than dollars.
>Cryptos now too
I think crypto has a very unique group of actors and unique set of risks. Currently it seems too risky for me to have more than 5% of my wealth in that game. I think I sit around 1%.
>Stocks are worthless because of excessive leverage and overvaluation
I agree and I think this is for corp bonds too. Not just because they have far too low a yeild, they are also far too risky an asset.
>all it will take is the slightest movement
Many well respected people indicate this, and I think they are likely right.

>>21976647
I'd like to point out that some of the most expensive places to live on earth are those that don't resemble a somewhat efficient and functioning economy.

>>21979090
>meanwhile...

>>21976679
It would actually be profitable for fraudsters to turn real silver into real 1oz coins at this point.

>>21979051
Pascal's wager applied to internet and electricity. Similar to the uranium bet, just much riskier imo.

>>21975205
Did you know that both walking liberty and a dime are masonic coins? Both have symbols of Mercury, planet of change and quicksilver, like olive branches, virgin and sun on a horizon (mercury can be seen with naked eye only early in the morning and about sunset).
Masons belive in alchemy, mercury is symbol of change.

>>21979051
In case of a massive event like nuclear war, solar flair or any other world changing event gold, cash or crypto will be worthless. Bullets will be the main asset next will be humans, water and food.

>>21979263
Is it just me or does she have a penis on her head?

>>21979263
Was Adolph Weinman a Mason?

>>21979203
On a short time scale super computer says Bitcoin is bullish though it doesn't have very long legs. The best use scenario for bitcoin is turning it into metal or RE. There are indications from super computer that when Bitcoin rolls over in a dramatic way it's close to the end. I haven't got a clear time on this but it could be in the next few years. If it does survive the current doom cycle... and I do expect it to... after it will roll over. It's not going to be something that sticks around for decades let along hundreds of years like some have said.

>>21979109
Here are my biggest quick tips
>track the dollar
>track gold, silver, bitcoin, VIX
>track Euro / USD pair (if Euro goes up, drags dollar down hard)
>track each overseas market on open and close
>look at MACD / RSI as indicators (but not the key deciders)
>Tokyo 8:00pm EST open, 2:00am close
>Hong Kong / Shanghai 9:00pm EST open, 4:00am/3:00am close
>Germany 2:00am EST open, 2:00pm close
>London 3:00am EST open, 11:30am close
Watch price action for all of these assets at all of these times
If you see all of them open green, close green, you can be pretty confident US will open green close green too
likewise, if they open red close red, the reverse

Download a news app from Europe - read both European news & US news (try to read as much world news as possible) Imo, you cannot trust US news - but you should still read it, read it with the grain of salt "What are they trying to get me to do with this information?" (that is the news you're looking for)
[News articles today came out about both Argentina and France having highest covid spike / France is considering going back into lockdown -- this would be bullish for PM]

The most important indicator is the dollar. If there is no "end of the world" news (eg. North Korea has just fired a missile into the ocean! Covid has now mutated & kills with 50% mortality! - that type of news) and there is a massive rally in gold / silver without an equal decline in the dollar, and it is approaching a resistance point, you can be confident that it is going to bounce down. If you see that it's at a resistance point, you need to evaluate the news the upcoming news & evaluate what you think the news will be & how the markets will react
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm

Good luck!!

>>21979296
That is a god, Mercury. In astrology mercury rules 2 zodiac signs, gemini and virgo. Both are masonic symbols. Jesus mother was a virgo. Liberty is a mush up between virgo and mercury, a light bringing woman.

>>21979273
Gold will hold value possibly even gain value during an apocalypse type event
During the first few months or even years there will be many people who assume that things will go back to normal eventually and will gladly trade what supplies they have in surplus for your bullion
It's highly probable that one could acquire vast amounts of ammunition, food, and medical supplies for small amounts of Silver and gold shortly after the world ends
Years into it though people will eventually realize that it isn't going to get much better any time soon and will laugh at you for trying to give them useless shiny rocks for food

>>21979319
Guess

>>21979368
Does she have a penis on her head tho?

>>21979386
I guess im saying, prove it

>>21979407
Ok, let's say he was not but he sure did love making all his art about mercury planet of change and inteligence.

>>21979349
speculation on /x/ reckons its gonna be the gateway to universal cashlessness, with things like elon musk headchips, being mandatory to function in day to day life.

>>21979357
I forgot to mention track 10 year treasury!!

>>21978914
Truth. The dollar is currently down, fuck what the fed has to say. It boggles my mind that the general population seems to think, "oh they want to increase to 2% and beyond? Ok, my husband will be able to buy me 2 iphones with that, tee hee!" is perfectly normal. And that record unemployment and and an abundance of fiat is completely normal.

This is why you're metal is money.

>>21979368
Technically the mint referred to it originally as "liberty with winged cap" but even they refered to it as mercury within a few years of the design's release.

>>21979478

>>21979357
>>21979463
Thanks anon, this seems pretty fool proof if the risk is managed, and a lot of it can be tech assisted. I'll give it a shot! Maybe watching the foreign markets and seeing them as more like momentum and not a lagging indication / confirmation is the way to go. Didn't really dawn on me to watch foreign markets like that.

>>21979427
There is absolutely nothing supporting the idea that Liberty on the Walker is Mercury.

Also, both are depictions of “Liberty” and not Mercury

>>21979561
No problem
The most important thing is to picture yourself as a surfer, ready to catch a wave, you might sit out there all day waiting for the perfect wave, but when that wave comes, you are ready to ride it
If you try to catch every wave you'll get too tired
Try to focus on not losing money primary objective #1

>>21979562
Mercury is ruling planet of Virgo and Gemini(Mercury, Hermes, Loki).
Evidence is there, you just know to little to connect meanings and I won't spoonfeed you.
If you are interested, compare symbols and atributes of god Mercury with those coins and masonic symbols.
Right then, cheers.

>>21979462
It's not a secret about going digital/cashless. Currently most money is digital and it's been like that for some time. There are many countries with the great majority of transactions done electronically by phone, computer, card - the concept makes no difference to most people and particularity younger people that seem to think investing in shoes is a thing. Super computer says the doors on cash and gold are going to start closing in 2022. Going digital/cashless is more about control rather than it being a new sort of money... because it certainly isn't... and closing the door on alternatives. Tax is what gives currency it's value and it seems the smartest people in the room don't get it. I don't see what's so /x/ about it? Maybe it would be /x/ in 1960.

>>21979541
I'd you're referencing the 70s where the massive unemployment was due to simply companies trying to save a buck where they can this is wrong. Stagflation is a bandaid, only this time the dollar took a shotgun to the chest. A lot of the low wage jobs that essentially move the economy for the upper class to pump money into it (hospitality, restaurants, even education since most classes are going online and districts are going to receive a massive budget cut as a result) are gone, and frankly won't return to normal anytime in the near future. Best case scenario is all of them realize being a 35 year old bartender isn't going to cut it and they branch out into a trade. Reality is that there is only room for a fraction of them and the rest stay unemployed and sucking the tax payers tit. In this current economic situation stagflation is just a remedy for the 401k of the average Joe and your Robinhood account.

So do the math. Keep funneling money to prop up portfolios and the source of said money simply isn't coming back the way they used to, and you have a recipe for fiscal disaster.

>>21979689
/x/ because allusions/connection to "mark of the beast" and all that. Either way, rock collecting is more enjoyable than hodling paper or tokens.

>>21979647
Dude youre talking out your ass

The Liberty on the Walker has jack shit to do with Mercury

>>21979647
PS, its believed that Weinman’s design was inspired by Oscar Roty’s Semeuse, ignorant fuck

Get the fuck out of my thread

>>21979647
>I won't spoonfeed you.
it's literally only SJW's and people off their medication who talk like this.

>>21980109
lol its like the anti-vegan; who cant help BUT to spoonfeed you nonstop and will never stfu.

>>21979750
If the USD dies most people are not necessary... are not in Americas best interest to keep around.

>>21980039
Again virgo and setting sun. You just don't know symbols.

fuck brehs I want to buy more gold but its getting so expensive
I was stacking this shit at 1200 euro and now its almost 1700

>>21980039
Demeter is Virgo, godess of crops. Did you even go to school?

>>21980039
Virgo and mercury, crops and olive branches.