/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21971041
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this is the most retarded project that is being shilled here. your courts are extremely fucking gay and so it will never get any adoption.

>>21971041
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Order! Order!

>>21971041
$20

>>21971041
is this the one where every tx gets routed through a jury of your peers?

Kleros is unironically going to 0.01c.

>>21971650
yes what a retarded concept

/biz/ is literally too retarded to see the legitimate need for alternate dispute resolution on the blockchain to allow for any meaningful mainstream adoption; by the time they realise it's a necessity they'll be priced out of make it stacks forever.

>>21971041
$4 EOY
$20 next year

>>21971650
>>21971984
No, it's for dispute resolution on smart contracts. Read the whitepaper, lots of anons here misrepresent it to make it sound more retarded than it actually is..

If it replaced the 50th coin by market cap, it would be at $0.68. At the 30th place, it would be $1.26. At 20th, $2.40. At 15th, $3.31. At 10th, $6.39 and at 5th, $10.21.

Access to subjective judgment is required for most real-world smart contract applications, and some form of decentralized arbitration is a necessary fail-safe if smart contracts are going to replace "dumb" contracts in existing applications. If Kleros becomes the default solution, which it's connection to Vitalik makes likely, it could be a top 10 coin and the over-all market cap of crypto could grow by quite a lot. At least $15 seems realistic.

>>21971087
>>21971115
See you at Kleros Court

BTW, what do you suppose this anon meant? The one thing Kleros lacks is sufficient breadcrumbs and schizoposters.

>>21972294
PEE, COCKS, and VIRGINITY

>>21972363
Poo, curry, and vindaloo?

>>21972374
you have killed me sir

>>21972374
Lol

>>21971087
>>21971041
I agree it going down to 0. But not because of the concept but because those retarded discord trannies are going to ruin it for everyone.

You want to see a justice platform being overtaken by closed minded racist individuals? Not to mention furries? Retarded shit. Their shilling is whats going to make this project collapse.

>>21972044
Not all of /biz/ is retarded, it's just impossible to really say anything or argue inbetween pajeet fud and people who really don't understand how valuable and needed this sort of thing is for a whole host of industries that aren't legal. Everyone just jumps to the absolute endgame and misses all the minor disputes that could be made way more efficient.

>>21972253
Thats assuming a total cryptocap where it is now. Theres a massive bullrun coming, probably sometime next year.

>>21972700
Checked. Is a 2021 pretty much our agreed destiny now?

>>21971041
I have a much more length answer but so many FUDdding faggots wouldn't appreciate it.

Short answer:

$1 by 2021 is the maximum with the current cision.

If they successfully expand to the car insurance markets, I would guess it could hit $4.

I want to see it used in content moderation. If that happens, it will soar.

Whats nice about Kleros is that it's simply a layer for smart apps. The more smart apps that begin to appear in need of objective human analysis, the better chance it will add to ti's gains. But it needs to get out of the fledgling proof of concept phase.

PNK is not a currency. It's a share of a company that places the profits directly in the hands of the users, who are also shareholders.

>>21972486
These are the kind of people populating /biz/>>21972474, unironically thinking it has anything to do with justice/morals/politics - instead of “has x fulfilled y under the terms of z”? Fucking retards.

>>21972807
I've had too much to drink so that's why all the typos. I say profits incorrectly. It's really more like it disperses the revenue.

>>21972807
this guy gets it

>>21972824
Because a bunch of racist discord neets backing your project is a good look even if your product is good right?
Shits getting shot down before jt even has the chance to go anywhere.

>>21971041
Where to buy

>>21972824
Thank you sir, all chutyas should read this scared text

>>21972807
>maybe 1$ in 6 months
>maybe 4 more if they pull off the impossible, getting into car insurance, that will never happen ever

christ this sounds like a terrible investment lmao. just buy fucking uniswap shitcoins and scam redditors. wtf..maybe one dollar if everything goes right? fuck that

>>21972940
Uniswap

>>21972824
Ya you can't argue with stupid.

I also imagine that most people don't realize a disputed purchase made with a credit card takes at least a month to process. This is a month+ of time where visa/MasterCard, PayPal/eBay/Amazon/Shopify/whatever and the business that was actually selling the product are basically left with the money in limbo. It's a huge drain on cashflow and opportunity cost. These disputes are all handled by near-minimum wage customer service reps in call centers as well, it's not like there's a university degree requirement to be a customer service rep for visa.. They also get it wrong a lot of the time. This is coming from someone who has ran online businesses, it's easily one of the most annoying parts.

It's basically turning customer service into a freelance position, yet everyone just thinks kleros is aiming to replace our criminal justice system.

>>21973090
Kek, have fun holding COOM and BART, I'm sure it'll go well for you sir

>>21973141
you don’t hold uniswap shitcoins you do a 5x in a week and leave. just like your going to apparently wait three years for and fail spectacularly. because they are getting into car insurance lmao. that’s retarded. gonna be decades before that happens and it won’t be kleros.

>>21972824
I bet you thought climate change was about the environment

>>21973291
It makes me irrationally angry when people shit on nuclear like that.
>Hurr durr let's harness the power of the wind hurr durr
Nuclear is by far the best source of energy and yet people shit on it bc of chernobyl (which was forever ago) and fukushima (which literally only killed one person from cancer, and only happened bc of a naturally disaster anyway). In conclusion, fuck trannies.

>>21973291
I don't see the correlation. What you're talking about is because solar and wind energy lobbyist groups is bought and paid for by the oil industry because they don't see it as a threat for 50+ years. Solar/wind relies on government subsidy to survive and isn't scalable currently. The anti-nuclear campaigning by the hippies who support solar/wind is just fake fud because the oil industry's only real threat is nuclear energy.

>>21973090
This so fuckkng much.
>>21972807
This is fucking retarded. So coins go to 2b marketcaps on pure speculation but pnk would go to 4$ when it reels in massive players. Either you're fucking retarded or this is a terrible investment

>>21971087
Sir,,,Kleros project will FedEx whole village. Buy sir

Kleros has so much information available on its blog, lots of videos on its Youtube channel, and is already testing out some practical applications publicly that you can follow. I don't know why people still come on /biz/ to ask questions about it.

If you're not sure where to start, listen to the "Decentralized Justice Podcast" that they put out a couple weeks ago with Colin Rule. Or check out their latest blog post and their explanatory video about their Curate project. Kleros is a solution in search of a problem and it's finding new problems every day.

>>21973345
My point is they will inject their politics whenever they get a chance. I'm a 30k PNKlet and it's the one thing I'm worried about with this project.
>>21973341
These retards are never satisfied
>nooo nuclear is bad
okay how about hydro
>nnnnooo not the heckin flooded trees
okay how about geothermal
>nnnnoooo it's not subsidised enough buy muh 10 year life renewables reeee

>>21973345
It doesn't 'rely' on subs to survive. Its literally an excuse to fill peoples pockets.
>>21973341
Newer nuclear energy plants also have next to zero waste. Shits retardedly efficient. All because iran could make dirty bombs its somehow not a worldwide solution? Kek ok. Alao Fukushima was a fucking earthquake into a tsunami and that shit still stood like a champ. If anything its a proof of how safe this shit is.

>>21973352
It'll easily go as high as LINK or higher, there's no reason it shouldn't

>>21973453
>>21973472
Exactly, they'll claim "OMG guys, the world is gonna end in 10 years because of climate change", but then when you give a practical solution (nuclear), then it's "Oh no that's too scary and dangerous noooooo"
If climate change is really that big a threat, shouldn't they be willing to use nuclear, even if it is dangerous (which it isn't).

>>21973474
>it literally cannot go tits up

I keep getting fudded
PNK went from 1.8% of my portfolio to >22% just holding this shit.
Would still be a top hundred if I didn't take profit around 9c kek
I'm just gonna hold pnk forever fuck u

>>21971087
>>21971115
>>21971944
>>21971984
>>21972474
>>21972926
>>21973352
PNK FUDDERS GET ABSOLUTELY BUTTFUCKED. LOOK INTO THE DUNNING KRUGER EFFECT FUCKHEADS.
>he thinks it’s for courts of law
>he doesn’t know they’re in Thomson Reuters incubator
>he doesn’t realize pnk holders act like pajeets for fun
>he doesn’t realize it’s done a 20x since Feb
>he doesn’t know it’s shilled by vitalik
>he doesn’t know it’s one of the largest holds for the top 5k link wallets
>he doesn’t know they received $500k and $1M grants
>he didn’t check kleroscan.com to see that the project has already brought in over $1M to the users
>he doesn’t know what dispute resolution is
>he doesn’t know who colin rule is
>he doesn’t know about Tyler technologies
>he doesn’t know about modria
>he didn’t turn $5k to $100k holding pnk
>he doesn’t realize kleros has 8 diff dapps besides their court dapp
>he doesn’t realize kleros helps link solve the oracle problem
>he doesn’t realize link cannot handle subjective data
>he doesn’t even know what subjectivity is
>he doesn’t know 1 whale just put over $400k into pnk during ATH last week
>he doesn’t know about the coinbase email leaks
>he doesn’t know the token sale in February sold out in a week and a half
>he doesn’t know they raised over $1M in their token sale
>he didn’t see link whales put 500-1000 eth each into the token sale
>he unironically and unequivocally thinks pnk is actual Indians
>he doesn’t realize kleros is one of the most advanced teams in all of crypto
>he didn’t believe 4MOONXGG
Congrats, you failed the IQ test.

>>21972926
This FUD doesn't work when LINK is a top 5 coin

>>21973612
i know absolutely and literally everything on that list in great detail but still I have determined that kleros is a horrible shitcoin. what are you going to do about it?

>>21972926
because /biz/ and 4cha exposure was so bad for
1) btc
2) eth
3) link
4) countless others
if you think the above weren't associated with 4chan, you're delusional and likely came here after 2017. we have always been the first adopters of essentially any crypto, thousands of shitcoins included.
when adoptions is involved, nobody gives a shit about >muh morals

Keep it low i need more

>>21972374
Fucking kek

>>21972926
So what?
Whites and Jews are the only ones to make sound financial descitions. If you wanna know how to invest like a nigger go fuck a pack of shawandas.

>>21973708
Explain why then

>>21971041
Just bought 1300 PNK. Should I just store in my metamask wallet or move it to another wallet?

>>21974261
keep it in your metamask wallet if you plan on using their site, otherwise just store it wherever

>>21973612
I literally know all this shit retard. Im just saying that discord racist trannies will ruin this coin before it gets any chance to lift off.
You think any company wants to pick up a dispute platform vouched for by racists? Lmao you think they'd know better after all that blm shit.
The discord faggots are ruining this token and its reputation.

>>21974275
What if I dont plan to touch my PNK for a while?

>>21973652
Pnk is different than link.
Pnk needs a human aspect and human subjectivity. If that subjectivity is vouched for by racist close minded discord faggots do you think any company is willing to pick it up?

>>21973725
>>21973956
Read this.
>>21974357
>>21974388
Btc eth link all were unfazed by 4chan exposure since human subjectivity is not part of their use model.
Now think does pnk have human subjectivity in their use case? If so will people doubt that part of the project when its vouched for by racists? Absolutely. Nobody's gonna want to touch it with a 10ft pole

>>21971087
THIS

>>21971041
>Realistically, how high can Kleros go? Will we side widespread adoption?
Yes Sir Kleros will be nationally adopted by the government of Republic of India, Sir. Our Prime Minister Modi-ji will announce it next month. PNK will digitalize the already-great-legal-system of our country, Sir. Please do the needful, Sir and join our revolution.

>>21972769
Nobody knows for sure but im sure some technicalfags will agree. If time after bitcoin halvening is a good guide yeah, next summer most likely

>>21973090
The number's I'm giving are not about ATH's, but more about realistic long term values.

I'd expect the ATH's to be closer to what would be considered a good investment, but the problem is that most crypto isn't a good investment, only crypto's that prove them self over and over again as valuable products will be profitable in the long run.

People who sell bitcoin at 20k will miss out when bitcoin hits 500k. Kleros has the potential to hit $4 and keep it, and as it adds more apps to it's ecosystem, it will retain previous gains and continue to grow. It's not a crypto. It's a stock.