/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21879502
I don't have any PNK and I don't believe in Kleros as a concept, I just like the memes.

>>21879502
>Is PNK just an investment to you? Or do you actually believe in Kleros as a concept and want it to succeed?
yes

>>21879502
both of those things and with 100% conviction desu

very much the second more so than the first. I'm very bullish on any protocol that requires human activity on the chain, and this is the best thing for that on Ethereum so far.

Its honestly both

>>21879554
This

just an investment for me but im definitely 8nterested to see were it goes unlike most investment coins i have. It will also fit in with the upcoming dystopian decentralized cyberpunk world thats bound to happen in 10ish years so that will be cool

i fell for the pajeet fud when it was at 0.006$
tfw

>>21879678
Aoba is so fucking cute and I'm glad she's the de-facto anime mascot of PNK

>>21879502
Actually believe in the concept unironically.

>>21879922
woops i forgot to say sir at the end of that.
sir.

>>21879502
It's a long-term investment because I think it will become huge. I don't have any interest in being a juror, but I will sell my 100k to people who are interested in a few years.

I believe in the better version

>>21879991

>>21879991
Aragon is a money grab from a bunch of BTC Maxi's. Go talk with them. They could not give a fuck about ETH or their project.

>>21879502
Interested in Kleros escrow as a crypto wealth transfer if I should die. Huge market for crypto inheretence..

>>21879718
>>21879678
hopefully you guys live in rubber/plexiglass cages away from anyone irl

Sir I believe in doing the needful and feeding the whole village

>>21880006
based

>>21879714
I on behalf of my village liked to want to say I apologize. I know some people’s were afraid of a “rug pull” but sirs the funny thing is that my village is too poor for even a rug to pull

>>21879502
I believe in everything I invest in. Even the scams

>>21880800

What divinely inspired autist is making these?

if it succeeds it's like i went to law school

>>21879502
yes i think curated internet is the future to finalize this dystopian hell and i can see it being used for arbitration clauses for certain things to save money

Sir much like the kleros boss pay 5 rupee per post

>>21879502
Both. I believe deeply in the project as a witness to how fucked up business can get when problem arbitration and resolution costs too much, takes too long, or is sidestepped completely in the interest of time.
Something like Kleros, spread across all industries, could save billions for all involved while also being a passive reward for those who are knowledgeable enough and have the free time to be a juror.

>>21879502
You want honesty? I think it's the stupiest idea in crypto, internet court money will never be a thing. I made good money off PNK and dumped at .17

>>21883290
I’ll await the pink wojak thread in a few months

>>21883353
ngmi

>>21883290
>yes I'm sure plenty of women and children would love to get in a car with random strangers who could be serial rapists or drunkards
>uber won't work, people won't trust an app they just downloaded on their phones to drive them around safely

I'm sorry anon, if you think this is just about pretending to be judges and jurrors you failed the IQ test.
The whole point of Kleros is that you don't have to trust the individuals involved to trust the system. When you dispute a sale on Amazon, who do you think resolves your dispute, a grad student studying Aristotle, or one random pajeet working for minimum wage? And yet you trust that pajeet, because you trust Amazon. But what if you didn't have to trust Amazon?

My mom sells custom jewelry online. Custom jewelry can be expensive, but not expensive enough that the Feds would get involved if something went wrong, and it is often shipped internationally anyway. The problem is that sellers invest a significant amount of time and materials in each piece. They need a platform that won't just side with the customer. And customers need a platform that isn't just going to cater to coveted designers. Both would prefer to deal directly with each other without paying a potentially untrustworthy platform to act as a middle-man.
This is a real world problem that Kleros could actually solve. Imagine if every time you bought something online, from any random website or private seller you could count on the same dispute resolution service that eBay uses to resolve any issues? Most customers aren't ever going to know how it works. They're just going to know that they're using an impartial, third-party app in case something goes wrong.
The gig economy is going to transform the dispute resolution industry like ride-sharing killed taxi companies, and I think Kleros is going to do it.

>Anon I know being a juror is really important but hurry up and come to bed

>>21883938
That's the stupidest shit I've ever read. Token not needed

>>21883938
he’s just a brainlet who’s ngmi

>>21879502
Was just an investment, the idea is absolutely ridiculous, but marketable in a way which I knew would make gains

>>21879502
I don’t have any pnk, but I like the community and I wanna tell you anons something: anj shills are the ones behind the fake coinbase listing email, they plan to to fud pnk holders since they think anj is gonna be listed instead

>>21883938
Well said. The only reason I'm not all in is because we can't be certain it'll actually be adopted. Link had good breadcrumb back in the day. With Kleros it's pretty weak so far.
>muh colin rule
The guy did an interview with Kleros, nothing else, he's not even involved with the project, there's no link with eBay there. Either way, I still strongly believe in the project.

>>21884213
Good. More time to accooomoooolate

>>21884213
Thomson Reuters

I legitimately believe in kleros, but not for its arbitration. It will be more revolutionary in curated whitelisting and other functions which are created from the possibility of arbitration.
>t. waiting for "the dip" since .02

>>21884372
>Thomson Reuters
The incubator program? Another nothing burger.

>>21879502
i dream of the day law firms open up with the explicit purpose of staking PNK in the highest of legal cases for massive profits

>>21879718
same
she's cute

>>21882330
idk but they're a god

>>21884213
Yeah, that's certainly a risk with any new technology. Colin Rule is just a sign that they know how to make the right connections; I'm also reassured by their connections in the Ethereum developer community and the Linguo project. But if they don't make the right connections with industry, they could be dead in the water. That was one thing you never had to worry about with Link.
My mental timeline is based on some proofs of concept getting developed by some major companies in the next couple of years, and at least one good rollout in the next four. I think we'll see good price movement in the meantime regardless, but if things don't start working out like that, I'll reassess. A lot also depends on Ethereum fixing its shit. It's speculation riding on the back of speculation.

>>21884010
token not needed....people just gonna volunteer? this a HUGE problem in crypto and online commerce in general. Right now you need a middleman like Paypal/Ebay, Amazon, etc. We need a consensus mechanism to fix the lack of chargebacks when paying in crypto. This project is undervalued as SHIT. Look at all the products they already have up.

>>21885074
>gas
yeah, any gas fee above 0 has a huge drag effect on crypto as a whole. But when gas fees become manageable (20-30c at most) then I think we'll see a huge explosion in real projects like kleros which have a role and actually do things, rather than just speculations about whitepapers and conferences.

Your timeframe seems realistic. I think anybody selling kleros is insane when thinking on a 3+ years scale - if they can implement half the things they plan to/are currently developing, and even just 1 or 2 large projects come on board and integrate kleros, then anything less than $20 is fud. My personal sell price is $50 - enough time to get to $20 on the back of real use cases, plus the extra 250% from speculators and a mania. In 3 years time I think that's a reasonable goal.

>>21885515
this is how i think about it- gas will kill it now, but that's okay since adoption will be a while later
if we started adoption now it'd be killed by gas and no one would use it (and possibly die)
since it'll probably be until ETH 2.0 before things come out that gas will be much less and kleros much more useable

>>21884010
ngmi

>>21879502
As an escrow service its useful

>>21879502
I don't invest in shit memecoins with no purpose, which is why I like kleros. The memes are top tier but the project is solid

>>21884172
what the hell? is that piece of shit aragon really being listed on coinbase? it’s literally a copy of kleros this is bullshit

I only hold PNK and CUR right now.

Ya, but it's not an investment

Its my life

I bought some just for the memes, meme magic rarely fails

i'm counting on coomcoin going to $5 so i can retire.

>>21886025
Not him but it was confirmed ANT is in the "review" phase of coinbase listing, meaning they're at least thinking about in, and ANJ would probably be added to if ANT were.
Then again, absolute shit like AMPL was in the same "review" image, so take it with a grain of salt. Only a few shitcoins they review get listed and it would be an extremely shitty thing of them to list ANT before Kleros. Vitalik would probably call them out on it seeing as how fond he is of kleros in terms of making ethereum real-world applicable.

>>21885515
They will probably release Linguo within a month, even with the insane gas fees, at least for testing purposes. There won't be large scale adoption of it until gas fees go down, but that's not a problem. When 2.0 comes out, Court and Curate will expand exponentially, along with the other dapps. They only need 1 or 2 functioning prior to 2.0 to have a solid enough idea of what works and what doesn't before they can grow exponentially. I predict the next step will be whitelists of certain people, from which contracts can draw on as specified juror pools, to give expertise in certain areas (starting with languages for linguo cases but expanding to other professional work), then launching graphic design and website design versions of linguo.
Within 2 years I can easily conceive large scale professional work being undertaken on kleros, probably beginning with legal drafting, ghostwriting, and other such distant-applicable work. Small scale engineering, coding, and architecture are also likely. But it will grow in terms of imagination - there are a lot of ways whitelists will change the way people can hire contractors via smartcontracts, and people a lot smarter than I will doubtless come up with incredible ways to do so.

>>21887118
meant to reply to >>21885721

>>21879502
>do we believe in it?
It's my life

>>21879545
unequivocally based

$4 eoy

>>21887118
the future is exciting

>>21886049
Shoo pajeet. Don't shill your chico crypto shitcoins in pnk threads faggot. You're probably scotty p

>>21879502
I am mearly doing the needful, sir.

I've got a case, boys. Small beans but I'm looking forward to getting better acquainted with the process.

sirs reminder that failing to do the needful is 2 years in the kleros cube

>>21887595
fug i've been staking forever and last one i got was 302
let us know what the gas fees are like and how much there is to profit right now

Is 40k make it stack?

Im getting scared about EU regulations

>>21887671
i've hear optimistic being 10k suicide/ 100k make it
pessimistic 25k suicide / 250k make it

>>21887671
What EU regulations?

>>21887444
Fuck off faggot curio is mooning hard right now.

>>21884010
Anyone that replies to this anon is falling for obvious larp or listening to a man fill his bags

>>21885074
I'm mostly just really confident in the team's ability to understand new applications for their concept. Linguo is a really neat idea. Same with the escrow. Heck even their curated registry is neat. Whenever I'm reading about new things they're using Kleros for it makes me think "oh neat, I wouldn't have thought of that." It's true it's hard to know if adoption will ever happen but the fact that there are so many things that it could be used for makes me think it's likely at least one or two of those things will happen.

>>21887601
nice