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No, no, and no.

imagine being handcuffed after cooming, that's marriage in a nutshell

>>21727906
the jews want to destroy marriage.

>>21727906
don't get legally married.

>>21727906
I'll get married to start a dynasty after I made it and have money stashed away that no divorce attorney could find.
If you're a poor fag that hasn't made it, I don't see why you would get married.

>>21727906
if you are mentally balanced and healthy and found the right girl you would go for it and it’d be worth it.

never get married
never even get a gf
make porno and ravage the native pussy of every place you visit
cum inside all of them
make sure they all take birth control

How do I avoid marriage while having kids? I want what is best for the children though, so they need to have a mother in their lives. How do I raise children with a women who is not interested in a romantic relationship, and without getting legally married?

Get married if you find the right girl, but get a prenup

>>21728013
(((nice)))

>>21728072
Lesbians

>>21728013
Why do u think it is a good idea to cum inside all of them?

Won't take too long till u get some shitty disease or get a slut pregnant

>>21728164
Holy shit, that's actually a great fucking idea

it really depends on your mental acuity to find a woman worthy of marriage

combined with straight up fucking luck.

a lot of men have horrible taste and instincts.

>>21727906
legal marriage is rigged to give women financial incentives to break things up, you can have a happy family without it

>>21727906

Serious answer, from someone who has a girtlfriend that he loves and so I don't hate woman like most here:

Don't marry, or if you do, only do it when you are in the process of having children. Any other reason is beyond retarded.

>>21727906
>be me
>grow up in trailer with single mom
>grow up half decent as she is respectable and hard working
>turn 19
>no plans at all
>meet girl at a diner
>have a great time talking
>move in with her
>she encourages me to get goals
>become professional through her family friend
>get married at 21
>have two kids on purpose in order to make me focused and driven
>now 31
>make $400k a year running a business with my best friend

Marriage isn’t for everyone anon. You have to be somewhat intelligent, willing to work through resentments like an adult, and be able to stand up for yourself and articulate your points in a discussion about running the house, raising the kids, and spending.

i want to post the microchimerism facts but the upload is to big.
Find yourselves a God fearing woman, and learn to Fear God

>>21728200
It is a horrible idea. Bringing a child into this world and it is raised probably by butch lesbians. The child will probably rope before 18

>>21728315
Well as the father, you would raise the child too. You would just share custody of the child with the lesbian mother

>>21728232
This
>marry based on how good they look at 21
>this is more of a proxy for being high maintenance and spending money on treatments/makeup than anything
>they continue being what they already are but the looks fade
>guy tries to get to know them better but it’s just a hollow shell
>eventually they start doing crazy bitch shit because people don’t treat them as well as when they were in their prime
>”wtf all women are stupid whores?!??!?”
No, you. You are the stupid whore.
t. Ugly foid ngl

>>21728072
you can't have the cake and eat it too

>>21727906
as for op, this is one of the shitty deals that almost every man goes into, because if you don't, you probably wont have kids, and providing for a family is your innate obligation as a man, you'll feel empty if you don't

that does not mean that not marrying will be bad, but its a different life style, you better have friends on the same boat, or be comfortable enjoying things by yourself

you have to pick your poison

>>21727906
>Most older married couples I know have failed marriages, meaning they are either divorced or stuck in an unhappy one. The only ones that seem successful are the ones where the couple is still young and in the honeymoon phase.
Ask me how I know you live on one of those liberated white countries.

>>21728088
there have been cases where prenup was simply discarded
you need to find a woman conscious enough to let go of the wedding fantasy and if you feel generous give her something else in its place, like a nice unofficial honeymoon trip or a fulfilling life

most marriages fail because they stop trying - get stuck in routines and stop "dating". it's hard maintaining a relationship but the other options is lonely and void of any depth. so you have to tackle the problems in the relationship every day, some days will be good and some bad. your partner won't be fulfilling every role either so make sure some good friends are around. love isn't stagnant, it's more like a crypto graph. just make sure the fundamentals are good from the start.

>>21727906
I am on my second marriage. Personally, for me, it's worth it to be with a big tiddy asian qt.

>>21727906
Most people are miserable no matter what they do.

>>21727906
Yes

the people saying not to get married are porn addicted incel /pol/ using coomers. I'm a millionaire, drive a corvette and divorced my first wife for a hot 20 year old asian after my blonde college chearleader first wife had my kids. There's nothing wrong with getting married unless you are a timid pushover that will get pussy whipped or fall in love with the first girl to give you sex.

>>21727906
Stop being an edgy child. Go get therapy so that you're actually pleasurable to be around, and then get married.

Unironically the best advice I can give to anyone is go fuck and date a bunch of women shamelessly. At some point, if you ever click with someone, you'll have a genuine connection and no feeling of the grass being greener on the other side because you rolled through so many crazy ones already.

If you want to get married wait till your 30. You will have had enough life experience to know if you really should or not. Just never marry a woman with a kid already.

No amount of degrees from any prestigious school can cover up a stupid move like marrying a mom.

Women are long game con artists.

>>21728282
This man is right in front of his downfall and cannot see it

>got married at 24
>still happily married at 29
>had $0 at 24
>have $60k in the bank now, planning to buy a house
>wife is going back to school because the economy exploded anyways and lmao pell grants

>>21728728
If you have a "the grass is greener" mindset in the first place and are never satisfied (read: you're a hypergamous woman), you shouldn't get married, retard.

Consider that all the people in your life with shitty/failed marriages are likely not very smart, not conscientious, and not able to think ahead. The Bell Curve noted that the '50% of marriages end in divorce' figure overlooks that the majority of those failed marriages belonged to people of below average intelligence. If you can't be adults and actually discuss the big 5 (religion, kids, money, in-laws, and personality differences) with each other than you aren't ready to be married. You think talking about that stuff is awkward now? How much worse is it going to be when you're yelling about it to your spouse?

>>21728072
Antinatalist here. If you want kids, you have to accept the fact that you will use them as a trophy status, and will get cucked.
>>21727906
The ones who do get married and end up somewhat successful will still age fast from their kids fuckups. No point in going through all of that. FWB is where it's at.

>>21728013
>t. Keyshaun Devonte Markezius Willams

>>21728422
Hahahaha

>>21728905
Don’t project.

>>21727906
>So is marriage worth it or not? I want to experience it, but the high likelihood of failure and subsequent divorce rate makes me wary.

Same here. The only thing I have to add is Audrey Hepburn after 2 failed marriages ended up with Robert Wolders and she said something to the effect of "it's more romantic to be always engaged"

More on this here if you're interested:

https://people.com/movies/audrey-hepburn-love-marriage-robert-wolders/

>>21728282
Based

>>21728282
>be me
>grow up in trailer with single mom
>grow up to be hateful shitbag despite her best efforts
>turn 19
>go to jail
>get released determined to create better version of myself
>get min wagecuck job
>meet shy girl from broken home at work
>have a great time talking and ask her out
>commit to help each other grow
>get her pregnant accidentally
>get married at 22
>only have one kid on purpose so that we can be the best parents possible
>work our asses off
>kid graduates with BS degree at 20 years old
>now 43
>make $220k a year running a business and travelling the world with my best friend as we continue to grow

The key to a successful marriage is in this thread.

>>21728282
All the power is in one person's hands and its not you. There is no amount of bullshit that can obscure this fact.

>>21729500

Good job and enjoy your life, anon.

You marry for the purposes of creating a family unit and procreating. Anything other than this reason is romanticized bullshit created by jews in Hollywood and then the masses ate that up and made it their battle cry.

You should get married and have many children since the monetary, health, and stability benefits are so massive. Consider someone who is highly genetically similar to you that you have the rest of your life to play games with, that is what your children are. Without marriage you will have split custody and your children will have no structure. Ofcourse you will be retarded and say
>oh but I don't want kids
Yet at the same time you'll have sex? Your biological drives are telling you cum in hole, bur you're saying you don't want kids? Wake the fuck up, if you're seriously asking what you are you already intuitively know the answer and are just hoping for someone to hold your hand to it.

>>21729500
>I lucked out therefore you will too

Only have kids if you plan to mix the gene pool, otherwise it's a waste for white people.

>>21729598
virgin detected

>>21728282
Sounds like you married your mom. Also remember 60 percent of all divorces involve individuals aged 25 to 39. Not out of the woods yet.

>>21727906
Don't fall for stupid anecdotes from idiots or Jewish rootless lies
Look at the stats for marriage
Iirc those in the top 80% of incomes have marriage stability similar to before the 1930s, aka very high
Also people married before 25 and after 33 have vastly higher divorce rates from those married inside that window
There are more stats as well, use your intuition to guide you and this knowledge to fit into the right mold

>>21729752
Crab bucket mentality

>>21728013
why would you care if you knock up some random in a far away country? they arent going to track you down lol.

>>21727906
I'm 47 and married. Marriage is not a meme IF you find the right woman. Failed men tend to scream the loudest on the internet. That's why you read about it all the time. Don't go for the prettiest.

most college educated people are married

>>21728266
Best advice right here
Also prenups are shit, judges will still give all your shit to the golddigger

>>21727906
I ll do it to have kids but women are a pain in the ass i ll probably end up miserable.

>>21729909
>IF you find the right woman

Bingo... and this is rarer than you think. Compare this to how many of your friends you think would take a bullet for you and then realise "the right woman" is even rarer than that. Putting control over half your assets + child support payments in the hands of someone who might end up leaving you is a disaster waiting to happen.

In what other situation would you hand over this much leverage to another person and behave like it's the "normal" thing to do?

>>21729743
>pleasure bot detected
I am a virgin and I will remain such until it is financially suitable for me to have children and a large family. I would not cum inside something that I am unable to care for because I'm not a worthless human being incapable of thoughts outside of "must coooooom".
When you're alone without sons, without family, and without friends at the end of your days not even a single person will come to even spit on your grave let alone mourn you. As for your living days you're missing out on the most important journey for a living human being, reproduction. Or if you do it will end up in divorce as statistics and history has shown people who have meaningless sex find themselves unable to pair bond and very likely to divorce, if they even do get married. Have fun spraying and praying, my sons will slaughter yours in school, in their young age, and in their adulthood will be the slave masters to whatever broken sheeple the single mothers left in your wake are capable of raising.

>>21728282
>400k/year business
>Have the time to shitpost on /biz/
Doubt

>>21730159
idk man I'm actually mid 20 and just larping

>>21728013
Based oddball poster

>>21729067
>Antinatalist here.
Finally some rationality on /biz/

>>21730176
Found the guy whose kids will hate their dad
Why do you care if anyone mourns you when you're dead? You'll be dead

>>21730321
What you said is still correct though. It all hinges on the opposite party in the marriage not using all of the leverage you just handed them over the next few decades, through thick and thin and all the problems life throws at you.

>>21730176
This post is kind of autistic, but still true. Outside of just being genetically better than your peers, the single biggest advantage your can give your kids over their peers is a stable, 2 parent home where the adults in the house act like adults and realize that there are more important things than them and what they want in the moment. The single biggest issue kids have in learning isn't having dyslexia or the teacher not liking them, its not having parents that will hold them accountable for learning and be involved in their development and education.

If anything, all the home learning that we've had to recently has just driven this point home. The kids whose parents didn't make them do HW are the ones whose parents are now baffled at why they can't seem to learn.

>>21729598
>>21728460
Tfw 36 not married, various gfs over the year some ltr but no children, often i wake up and go to sleep with little reason to live not even memeing. I should have seeked professional mental health help when younger...or still now

Don't b like me anyone under 30

>>21729598
>>oh but I don't want kids
>Yet at the same time you'll have sex?
Retard logic. We can transcend slavery to our biology to an extent. If you get hungry you still have to eat. If you get horny you can still fuck. There's nothing preventing you from using birth control.

>>21727906
> "You will die alone if you don't find someone" seems like a meme because we all die alone. Also, if you get married there is no guarantee that you will both make it to old age. One is guaranteed to die before the other
you will have children and grand children you absolute retard

>>21727906
Lmao that's an easy answer :

Do you want kids?

Yes? Find a wife for that.

No? Then why the fuck would you get married?

>>21728072
I have kids. still with partner, unmarried. it's good. why do you need social approval to have kids? if you have the right woman marriage is not important. marriage to the wrong one will be shit anyway

>>21730490
Imagine being a woman in the same predicament at your age. Meanwhile there are plenty of 40+, 50+ men having kids.

>>21728594
>the people saying not to get married are porn addicted incel /pol/ using coomers. I'm a millionaire, drive a corvette and divorced my first wife for a hot 20 year old asian after my blonde college chearleader first wife had my kids. There's nothing wrong with getting married unless you are a timid pushover that will get pussy whipped or fall in love with the first girl to give you sex.
all you fucking race traiting faggots are such hypocrites.
>have white kids
>then go date another race
lol. you're such a fucking loser.

>>21727933
or sex with hookers in America

>>21730678
I haven't given up yet. Still out there on dating apps, try to do some local volunteer work shit like that. Obviously harder with corona. Giving it til 40-45 before I kms

Was gonna get married but my ex-gf cheated on me with my friend

Im rich and so is her family but thank god I didnt follow thru or I wouldve gotten fucked on

Idk OP it just depends on the girl but I’m gonna focus on myself for a while


Im good looking and have no problem meeting girls (been going on a lot of dates since the breakup) but now I have paranoia and trust issues, im not vocal about them i just dont answer my phone or texts anymore :/

>daddy why didn't you marry mommy?
>so that bitch cannot pull the rug a take half of my linkies kiddo

It seems like most guys who get married end up resenting their wives, and guys who stay single end up feeling horribly alone and depressed. There's not really any way out, life is pain

>>21727906
Married with kids here. The definition of making it. Best life ever. AMA.

>>21730816
based

>>21727906
This isn’t an advice board moron

>>21730831
I'm basically the real life version of Scrooge McDuck and I relish it
I don't have nephews but I do have a maid and a personal chef

>>21730391
>>21729067
There is nothing more jewish and feminist than anti-natalism.

>>21730929
how old are you? seems like guys stay happy single until they reach their early-mid 40s

>>21729500
Bro this is a luck out story.

>>21730321
based

>>21730490

do you have any friends that are also single?

do you think travelling, having time and money for hobbies and other stuff could fulfill the place of a family? genuine question, i'm gonna have i talk with my gf tomorrow, still not sure if i'll break up with her or not, because if i do, i know that i'll be 40 and single for sure, dont have the patience to go after women anymore

ay yo white boi, hand over all your LINK

Gonna buy premium eggs to mix with my baby batter and have pajeeta's squit out 10 ubermensch for me. Having a modern women in any authoritative roll in the raising of your children isn't worth the risk. I need my children to conquer the stars.

>>21729067
>you will use them as a trophy status

holy projection

Not everyone is a fucking psychopath, you know. Some people just have an innate instinctual urge to bring life into this world and nurture it, teaching it your mistakes and hoping it becomes something grander than yourself.

>>21730949
this. the older I get the more pathetic it seems

>>21727906
Nope. Go MGTOW. Crypto is essential for MGTOWs.

>>21727906
Do you think parenthood would work if the child was adopted at 13 years old after going through multiple families and had the opportunity to take away 50% of your money at any given moment? That's marriage today. What you want doesn't exist anymore.

>>21729500
>bro, just go to jail and you'll be fine!

>>21730447
Kids with the best genetics are kids born from teenage parents at around 14.

>>21727995
this

only marry if you find the right person and you yourself are prepared