/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21431459
yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me

If you dont larp as a pirate, are you really a stacker?

2nd for PaperShill has switched characters to JewishShill. He's been there everythread like clockwork. Can't wait for September 29th and his funding to dry up.

You forgot to put a title!

>>21431608
It's better this way, I think

>>21431549
Nice stack.

Yah Shylock has been doubling down on his pro usury shilling after he ditched the SLV kick.

Pic related is my humble stack

>>21431533
I just had a skull woodburned into the lid of my stash box

>>21431608
Sutelfu modu

Reminder that national socialists are just keynesian brainlets, are rabidly anti-white and are opposed to everything we're trying to accomplish here.

>no dude, like Hitler abolished usury by confiscating gold and silver, forcing fiat on people, printing a bunch of money to give low interest loans to people
>this is a GOOD thing and it's NEVER been tried before
>god I wish we could just go back to Hitler's economy where central banks print money and artificially lower interest rates
>me smart

Reminder to report all off-topic posting whether for or against nazi ideology. This is a thread for discussing precious metals and precious metals finance, take it to /pol/.

>>21431710
Go away Shylock. Bassanio
isn’t here and we don’t need a 3,000 ducat loan.

>>21431907
>his vanity and people are cursed
Not everyone in this thread is a brain damaged religious fundie that believes insane things, anon.

>>21431927
>Give me a single historical instance of European societies practicing usury before the year 100 AD.
The fact that it was banned in several places back then tells me that it was a normal market phenomenon that the government tried to ban.
It happened back then it was just supressed.
Also in the 1800s for example Sweden had FREE BANKING and was extremely successful.
Usury works, and has nothing to do with jews.
Cope more.

>>21431957
Nazis banned books though lol

>we're going to need to start time stamping our stacks
weeeeeeeee

Noooooo I wasn’t finished buying miners yet Just one more dip

>we need to find a way to fucking whitelist
god damn

>>21431932
Are you the retard that thinks central banking and artificially low interest rates are a good thing?
lmao what the fuck are you doing in the PMs thread?

Why is one of my orders being shipped back and forth between two cities in Southern California? I didn't pay for shipping just to watch a game of Postal Ping Pong!

>>21432035
Keep reporting until they all get b&

>>21431825
>Aryanism is pseudoscience as well and has nothing to do with modern genetics.
Look into R1a and R1b haplogroups.
>Most of you are
So you admit to being a lazy tard and are not able to take what I say on its own merit?
>I at least hope you are Hoppe pilled.
Eh, some good some bad, libertarianism is gay and just leads to a mongrel civnat society with no societal cohesion or trust.

>>21431710
You can be Counter-Semitic and still think Hitlers banking system was absolute retardation.

>>21432020
This buffet thing looks like this is the last dip before the moon mission. Expect massive green stocks on monday.

>>21432099
But will this build momentum to the underlying assets aka, gold and then silver?

>>21432076
>haplogroups
hahahahaha
You know that people within the same haplogroup can have widely different genetics right?

>libertarianism is gay and just leads to a mongrel civnat society with no societal cohesion or trust.
Then why did we have tons of that before we abandoned libertarianism?

>>21432119
Yes

>>21432086
I don't even trust jews generally. I know zionism is a thing and it's bad. I don't hate individual jews like our neetsoc friends irrationally do.

>>21432038
>doesn’t understand the reference
>thinks he just “owned” someone and is eagerly awaiting a (you)

No anon. I think usury is a sin and centralized banking is a Jewish plot to create a one world government. I actually hold silver which repels blood sucking parasites like yourself when Passover is near.

>>21432065
Should have bought local ;^)

So I was digging through my change jar, looking for silver and sorting the coins, and I stumbled upon these two.
Sadly not silver just a twenty pence coin and a two pound coin from the UK.
So ii figured I would snap a shit picture and share. I have no clue how I got them but here they are with a cyber round for comparison.

>>21432186
>>doesn’t understand the reference
I don't give a shit lmao, you're actually fucking retarded. I demolished your post in the other thread and your beliefs are completely at odds with everything we believe here.
You support central banking, you fucking dumbass, you just think they shouldn't be run by jews. You support currency debasement and artificially low interest rates.
You're irrationally against charging interest on loans because you're a fucking retard who thinks people should and would willingly lend out money to people while they get absolutely no benefit from it and take on all of the risk.
You're fucking retarded, anon.
Talk about low IQ and extreme lack of critical thinking skills. If you weren't religious/racialist, you would be a marxist.

>>21432152
I never talked about lolberts, so I don't know nor do I care.
You're the kind of kike who pretends color doesn't exist because jungle green and shamrock are technically different.

I don’t care about your political bullshit, your both wrong if it’s not about gold and silver then fuck off

>>21432277
>You're the kind of kike who pretends color doesn't exist because jungle green and shamrock are technically different.
lmao no you fucking dumb cunt, I'm race realist.
It's you retards who shit all over the science because of your dumb hitlerite religion.
HBD researchers are doing actual science but you retards make normies think we believe in batshit insane aryan pseudoscience

>>21432306

>>21432269
You ok big guy? Not much to do on a Friday night I take it?

>>21432069
here's an issue. I can post my favorite stacks and pics, but you wouldn't know if I'm raiding or not. We can timestamp, but that's as tedious as learning each others verbiage. It's so tiresome... we've been doing this for weeks now.

>>21432212
It was a numismatic coin I was able to snag on Ebay for slightly cheaper than what my LCS was selling for. I suppose this is what I get for trying to save a few bucks. I'll post some pics if it ever arrives.

>>21432306
It's neo-nazis who have nothing to do with gold and silver, they're extremely confused as to why they are here in the first place.
Hitler banned gold/silver and forced fiat on his people.

>>21432334
whoa good comeback, totally dismantled my argument there

>>21432263
Fun fact, the UK 2 Pound coin is the same size as the old Florin.

>>21432338
>I can post my favorite stacks and pics, but you wouldn't know if I'm raiding or not
That's bullshit, and you don't need to trip. It's easy as shit to tell who does and doesn't belong here.

>>21432360
Don’t think there was much there to begin with senpai...

>>21431549
>>21431698
SLV shill has surely changed his tactics. this retard posting like >>21431710 is gonna get him (you)s in another 500 threads.
>>21431710

>>21432360
Fuck this arguing in every thread is annoying and you especially are a fucking faggot

>>21432383
Must suck not being able to read.
Oh wait, you're just coping because you have no argument lol

>>21432370
Its a good size coin.
If I hold it next to a sacagawea dollar there is no comparison. The two pound note is just perfect while the US coin just feels small. The ugly faux gold color does not do it any favors either .

How significant is buffets u-turn on gold do you think he’s got a secret physical position aswell?

>>21431533
Just ordered a Wooden chest to store my stack.

>>21432402
lmao how am I the SLV shill for mocking anti-PM ideologies?

I own physical and some junior miners.

>>21432076
Nothing builds trust like secret police arresting people for thought crime

>>21432409
seethe more then I guess

>>21432442
>do you think he’s got a secret physical position aswell
Fuck yes he does. He probably has a metric fuckload of both silver and gold. This stock purchase is just the beginning.

>>21432175
I like Peter Schiff and Bobby Fischer.

>>21432451
Or losing ones job in the US for said thought crime. Sadly Iran probably has more free speech than Most so called democracies.

>>21432380
it's getting harder. see:
>>21431698
>>21431549
>>21432269
I don't have enough energy to decipher this, It's going to get progressively more inefficient. King Boomer coming in to bless us with sweet bloody dips on GOLD will probably stir the pot around here. Cramer getting interest in NEM won't help much either.

the amount of retardation on this thread is irritating and reeks of gay ops.

here's a shitty picture of a australia gold kangaroo coin and burger copper that i just got bc anything is better than reading imbeciles talk past each other about whether shitler was duh good guy.

middle finger going out to the D&C shills (that includes christcucks & nazi larpers) shitting up this thread RN.

to the moon!

>>21432513
>I don't have enough energy to decipher this, It's going to get progressively more inefficient. King Boomer coming in to bless us with sweet bloody dips on GOLD will probably stir the pot around here. Cramer getting interest in NEM won't help much either.
What the actual fuck would make you think I'm the SLV shill? I have Peter Schiff playing in the other tab and my physical stack is sitting next to me.
Are you actually this stupid? Kill yourself retard.

>>21432544
>middle finger going out to the D&C shills (that includes christcucks & nazi larpers) shitting up this thread RN.
Based.

>>21432510
Both good jews.
Along with Mises and Rothbard

This is easily the most un/comfy/ thread in a while.

>>21432631
They’re afraid because Buffett is now in our side, gotta shit up the threads stop us talking about it

>>21432544
checked and based

>>21432554
why are you replying so actively? stomp it out. I love that /pmg/ is so willing to discuss things, but this shit's out of hand. If I were to guess, there absolutely would be shills taking both sides. the authenticity of genuine posters is likely to become an issue.

Way overpaid for this years ago because muh video game, but hey at least it's silver

>>21432668
>Buffett is now in our side
Buffett is just building himself a life boat for when the ship finally sinks.
Is he really on my side? Who knows but I hope to be able to ride in his wake with my little boat and soak up what I can.
All the normal fags who are going to wake up and suddenly find out all the gold/silver is already gone are going to get fucked hard.

>>21432668
Exactly. That was such bullish news you'd think there'd be more positivity.

>>21432673
>why are you replying so actively?
because commies and nazis are dumb as rocks and they have been increasing spamming the internet with their easily debunked theories for the past 10 years now
sorry for being a dick to you fren

>>21432720
That’s kind of cool. I don’t drink but a silver flask would be badass

>>21432720
Nice. What's the weight on that?

>>21432724
Yeah he’s probably not on our side but still he’s had to shift position and we beat him to it, you read his dads writings about gold he sounds like he would of been a /pmg/ regular

>>21432324
Kike trying to call everyone a nazi again lol.
> batshit insane aryan pseudoscience
Take a look at gene maps schlomo
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/human-population-structure-part-n

>>21432732
>sorry for being a dick to you fren
It's fine I get heated dealing with disinfo. I'd be happy to drop pic or something like it to shut it down like the Securities act of 1933 one. the ticker swapping made me boil.

>threads were shit last week when metals hit an ATH
>threads are shit when Buffet buys GOLD
wish these tourists would fuck off back to their pajeet coins

>>21432799
I just hope him dumping the banks and moving in to the precious metals market will be enough to convince my brother.
I talked to him two weeks ago trying to convince him to buy some physical and trade some junior miners with his mad money and he will not do it, thinks everything is fine.
Maybe this will be enough to convince him.

I just realized I have /pol/ threads from 2011 saved on my computer talking about Peter Schiff, gold, austrian economics and the financial crisis

fuck, I'm old

>>21432838
Nice, thanks fren.

>>21432809
Literally doesn't prove anything. The original Aryan meme was based off some spiritual myth.
It's you retards who spew disinfo that makes race realists look bad.

>>21432668
Nigger you were here literally the day after your SLVshill character got banhammered. Shut the fuck up. Can't wait for the Saudis to nuke Tel Aviv this year.

>>21432910
>Can't wait for the Saudis to nuke Tel Aviv this year.
Did they not just strike a peace deal?

>>21432898
Aryan is synonymous from the Indo-European groups that migrated into Europe, which ended up controlling almost if not all European languages and genetics. Cry about it bitchbaby.

>>21432989
Languages don't necessarily translate into genetic connections.
Also I know Indians and Europeans have some genetic similarities, this doesn't mean that there is something special about them for this reason alone. Do you want Indians in your white ethnostate?
Do you want to know why whites are special?
It has nothing to do with muh aryan horseshit.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/P78Zd8265_k/

>>21432849
King boomer has lots of influence over normal people, case and point my mom who was adamant about investing in PMs and only did so due to my relentless bombardment. Now after this news she wants to buy even more mining stocks.

>>21432065
I had an order ship from Las Vegas to fucking Honolulu... I live in Florida...

How is race theory relevant to precious metals? If you want to discuss anything not related to PMs, Miners or Economics, go elsewhere.

>>21432989
Aryans are aliens from Aldebaran.

>>21432787
I haven't put it on a scale, but the weight is pretty close to a roll of Merc dimes

>>21433145
Your tax dollars at work.

>>21433135
This Buffet thing is going to open the floodgates.

>>21433188
Checked. And I JUST WANT MY 20OZ OF ASAHI HOLY FUCK FUCK POSTALNIGGERS

>>21433220
Now I am curious to how much FUD they are going to flood the airways with to try and discourage ownership of gold.
How long until precious metals becomes indicative of the racist incel community who uses the internet to spread hate with green fogs?
Or more to the point will such propaganda even work given what is happening?

>>21433241
Fuck USPS, assholes stole a tube of bat bois I ordered, got a refund from monument metals but by that point they were out of stock so I just got eagles. Now monument only ships through UPS for my orders.

>>21431710
I was curious about your claim of Hitler abolishing gold and silver for his people, I couldn't find anything on it, not saying you're wrong, but I've been looking for twenty minutes and have been unable to find a source.

Unless this comes under the banning of profit that's not made from labour? I'm unsure, but I just read about the "twenty five points" and about Hitler's Reichbank, and googled other things and can't find a single thing mentioning Hitler banned silver and gold for his citizens.
Could your provide a source?

>>21433107
>Do you want Indians in your white ethnostate?
Not if they have dravidian in them lole.
That's like asking if you want ashkenazi jews in your country, but you'd probably advocate for it.
>Do you want to know why whites are special?
High percentage of neanderthal DNA (which the asians admittedly have more of) and lactose tolerance.
At the end of the day you don't need something "special" to realize you're best off running societies with homogenous groups.
>>21433171
And I'm sure we fought Hitler's UFOs at operation high jump, eh?

Just a frenly reminder from you fern the BNKR.ca/BHLL shill.

Niggers better buy before bananas.

>>21433335
FUCK IF I hadn't been blocked from posting with my VPN would've just got quints.

>>21433333

>>21433276
>Becky Quick calls Buffett on the air at CNBC\
>So Warren, is this a change in your point of view on gold? Are you bullish on the metal, or just this one company?
>Buffett: That was Tad or Ted or one of the other kids. Really bright guys.
done

>>21433241
based cyberstacker

>>21433303
Wow... That is fucked bro sorry to hear that. The bat bois look so nice id be pissed too

>>21433342
>Not if they have dravidian in them lole.
More unscientific garbage based on linguistics instead of genetics.
>but you'd probably advocate for it.
Of course, I would let Peter Schiff and Mises in my country.
Why don't you go back to /pol/?
>High percentage of neanderthal DNA
lmao what 2%?
That's not the reason we have higher intelligence.
>At the end of the day you don't need something "special"
Yes you do, it's called genetics.

>>21433276
They have already been trying to discredit stackers, owning stock probably wont get much push back but if you hold physical it will be a never ending bombardment until a PM backed currency is enacted or they ban it again.

>>21433408
C Y B E R coins have grown on me. Really cool how you get a nice design for a great price

>>21433461
Could you answer my question here pls
>>21433335

>>21433461
For a race realist you seem pretty hellbent on ensuring jews are allowed into an "ethonostate."
You're just another flavor of civnat lmao.

>>21433427
If it wasn't for Larry and his ninja skills of shipping PMs I wouldn't have any bat bois. I just wonder why he vanished right before the bull run started.

>>21433510
they are atheistic as fuck especially the logo on the reverse.
I find myself taking out my one coin and spinning it on a counter top and watching it.

>>21433476
>completely ignores the thousands of years of history that were based on the premise that Silver/Gold = Money
>if you stack you're some kind of schizo that thinks he's gonna trade silver for bread and that's it
>BUT BRO WE HAVE 50 YEARS OF AN OVERLY INFLATED US DOLLAR BRO THAT'S SO MUCH MORE RELIABLE
Why can't I just collect shiny rocks because I think they look cool and acknowledge they'll be sellable in the future for more money?

>>21433335
Hitler took Silver coins out of circulation at the start of WWII and replaced them with Zinc.

>>21433545
He is probably with Ron Paul in a bunker somewhere

WOW A BOXES

This thread is shit though, real bad. I’ll open it tomorrow. Gonna go watch anime or listen to a book. Maybe some Dalio.

>>21433476
What did you even object to in that article?
You don’t remember how silverbugs seemed before you caught the fever. There are some real freaks among us. Bless their misshapen hearts.

>>21433510
I regret not ordering 21 so I’d have one to play with! But I like leaving them safe in their tube.

>>21433583
they want you spending every dime you have because debt are they chains used to keep the people enslaved.
buying boomer rocks,. saving money in general, and not running on the treadmill makes you dangerous and possibly a free man

>>21433577
Same here bro. I always fondle my Asahi coins. I have about 30oz of Asahi 1oz coins. 20 more are currently in Honolulu for some reason

>>21433335
He suspended the gold standard and forced everyone to use the fiat Reichmark. You couldn't use gold and silver as currency.
https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Inflation_in_Nazi_Germany

>>21433536
I'm a race realist, not a white nationalist. Some jews are cool, like Peter Schiff and Mises.
Deal with it.

>You're just another flavor of civnat lmao.
Based. Glad my culture won't stagnate.

>>21433666
Add one to your next order, Satan!

>>21432898
>>21433166
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>21433692
Yeah USPS makes some strange decisions.
I have a CPU i ordered from China and it came in via the port of Miami, then went to Texas, then Chicago, and now I am still waiting for it and its been like two weeks since arriving in the US and I live in fucking Florida.

WHY THE FUCK DID I BUY AN OUNCE OF PLATINUM?!?!

>>21433636
source?

>>21433723
appreciate the effort but too many words and disorganized

>>21433740
Is that bat sick?

>>21433577
>atheistic as fuck

Btw POST FAVORITE 1OZ COIN

>>21433740
Haha shiny rock go ping

>>21433770
take all that energy of yours and make a better one. I don't know how to give context to the state of affairs, that nazi thread was pruned.

>>21433776
aesthetic, fucking spell check

>>21433731
LMFAO
wow that is absolutely ridiculous

South, Central, or North Florida? I'm near Marion county. Always nice to see a fellow Floridafag

>>21432443
Which chest did you order? I'm looking for one as well.

>>21433694
Thanks
I don't post here very often by why are half the posts off topic?
I see now why Jannies aren't payed

>>21433740
You can use it to make an electrode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex0VU9kMsgU

Asahi are overrated and are only good because they are usually the cheapest option for 1 oz rounds, for me it's about the Sunshine Mint rounds

>>21433583
You can and should.
But this is one of those things that you don’t necessarily want catching on with the idiot masses.

I suspect many of us here are the type of people who SAVE their money, and aren’t always spending on bullshit. And buying rocks is basically a way of saving money.

But that’s actually not good for economic activity and growth, and there’s very real concerns about the velocity of money and deflation. If you want the economy to get back on its feet again, so you can work and buy more rocks, and people aren’t rioting and getting government money, then you want the idiots to spend their money. You want them going out and buying coffee and clothes and booze and vidya gaems, etc.

>>21433670
Hey you came to a similar conclusion regarding rocks and saving! Saving money is a drain on the economy, it’s something you should only encourage in the people you care about.

>>21433820
941

>>21433835
I like their 10oz bars more than their 1oz coins

>>21433770
>Is that bat sick?
Absolutely not, it's in hunter mode.
>>21433787
>>21433832
Do you have any platinum?

>>21433779
>999.9
What is this mint and why can't they math?

>>21433859
Absolutely based. I used to live in Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda. Beautiful place

>>21433820
My wife bought a jumper, it shipped from Chicago, then went to New York, then to Dallas, then to Atlanta, then to Melbourne. Is that normal for US postage? I do seem to recall that Atlanta handles a lot of international postage...

>>21433888
sadly no. I don't have money for an oz and the premium on 1/3 oz is too high.
I don't know if I would even want to own a great deal of it but I would like an oz or two just on the off chance it might come in handy for a strange reason.

>>21433872
Their 1 oz bars are pretty good, the design on the back is really good

>>21433835
I hate the circle cut out of the middle.
If you don’t like cybers then I could see a brittania or an owl stacker or something. Oh those Korean ones are good too.

>>21433779
St. George? That’s based as fuck. I wish I had ordered those instead of the British eagles.

>>21433742
Look up the mintages of the 3 and 5 Reichsmark coins, the last year is 1939. The Silver (and copper) coins were withdrawn that year to finance the war.

>>21433779
Cuban 1 oz'er from 1997

Something that’s not talked about often but is the central banks policy of printing money to try and stimulate inflation actually creating the opposite effect, they inflate asset prices which prices out the younger generations and forces them to save money and the velocity of money craters. The more they print the more this effect counteracts them

>>21433889
No clue bro. I got it Secondary Market on Apmex. Random coin. Here is pic i just took of other side

>>21433830
When gold and silver started to pop a few weeks ago some paper shills and /pol/tards arrived unfortunately.
I don't mind talking about monetary policies of the third reich or anything like that, so long as it's actually related to PMs

>>21433973
I think that's illegal to own in the US.

>>21433276
Easy. They wont talk about it. Memoryhole.

>>21433975
>forces them to save money
what is more likely is it forces them to take on more debt. Debt is how people are controlled.
Which is even more fucked up when you think about it. The current generation, whether they know it or not, is stealing from their children and grand children to finance their lifestyle.

>>21433914
I have never really experienced this issue. Wouldn't say it is normal, but these aren't normal times. (Chinky Flu)
>>21433919
I really like the rear design. Looks incredible with the right lighting.
>>21433938
Yes sir. It is St George slaying the dragon.
>>21433973
Damn, neat coin. Never seen it before

>>21433975
A financial commentator in Aus did an excellent short book on our housing bubble being directly related to this, Unsafe as Houses by Ben McEvoy. It's a great lesson on the causes and outcomes of bubbles and how to protect yourself against them. Could probably find a pdf if you're interested

>>21433779
Not one oz, but have a 17th century Italian silver dollar.

>>21433981
Look like a shady garage mint. You should sell it to some kid. Tell him you have a coin almost a thousand times pure silver.

>>21433779
this is my favorite. the design is fine, but it's more the significance it holds to me and my dad that makes it my favorite.

>>21434085
Incredible design

>>21434051
> The current generation, whether they know it or not, is stealing from their children and grand children to finance their lifestyle.
Well that’s the crux of the issue, the future wants paying for all the value that has been stolen from it, the market is screaming for higher interest rate to get this payment but the central banks won’t allow it to happen.

>>21434094
I'm actually going to give it to my friend as a gift to celebrate his Baptism. He has 0 oz to his name. Want to try and get him to start stacking.

>>21434084
Yes please I’d like to read that

>>21434109
What is the story behind it bro???

>>21434010
They're illegal to sell so you just buy them from Europe. It's not enforced and no one gives a shit typically except Ebay. This one is also "forbidden"

>>21433850
>And buying rocks is basically a way of saving money.
Jesus Christ it's literally this simple. People that don't understand this most basic of fucking concepts are retarded. We're on a nice run right now, and a foreseeable run in the near future, but silver/gold has pretty much always been pushed as a method of wealth storage. It adjusts with inflation, potentially a nice profit beyond that, and is also in part a hobby. Have a shitload saved up? Great, drop a little bit in some fucking rocks, let em sit safe and sound, and go do other shit with your remaining money. I hate the mindset too many dumbfucks have on this board that if you like/push something, it's an inherent discredit of something else. Motherfuckers think that because we buy coins, that means we all think Bitcoin, crypto, stocks, bonds, property, whatever the fuck else is inferior and wrong.

>>21434118
Yeah the central banks partnered with all the too big to fail corporations are going to go full MMT.
They are just going to try and print their way out of the problem and in the process the FED will buy up every property it can and reduce what was left of the middle class to a proper slave class dependent on UBI.
With the technology we have now I could even see them trying to do a planned economy again.
Companies are already not allowed to fail so in one sense the market is already dead.
Things are going to get strange

>>21434085
I need that. It's also not an Italian coin. Italy did not exist. It's a Venetian coin.

>>21434170
after my dad got cancer he started to realize that he might not make it and we started talking about how to protect my mom, so he showed me how to invest and protect not only his money, but also my money for the future. we bought silver together and he showed my how to manage his accounts. we were never really close, didn't have much in common, but talking about this stuff really built a bridge for us, PM's unironically changed our relationship for the better.

>>21434255
Really touching story bro. Thank you for sharing.
God bless

>>21434249
Technically yes, but the same applies to many European countries - Switzerland, Germany, Austria all had independent state coinage up until they were standardized at some point. Makes for some interesting reading.

>>21433822
I think the brand was 'Trademark Innovations' on Amazon? Should be 2 sizes, I got the large one. Roughly $25. Goal's gonna be to fill it up.

>>21433850
>But this is one of those things that you don’t necessarily want catching on with the idiot masses.
Normies may be stupid but seeing them as nothing more then cattle means you must distrust your fellow countrymen. A consumption based economy is too fragile and blaming people for saving is the sign of bad economic decisions not bad people. If people don't save and constantly consume the latest vidya they will be nothing more then a permanent slave class and will never have enough capital saved up to start their own business.

>>21433973
Irony is a silver coin with Che on it.

>>21434142
Hopefully 4chan is ok with google drive links: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11_AjgJdFPf78qjHMcr7p0XdaPpd3J--Z/view

>>21434319
Where did you get it? I need to get one.

>>21434203
Crypto is objectively garbage. Don't speak for me, faggot.

>>21434339
Yeah it worked thanks

>>21434328
Destruction of savings is destruction of civilization.

>>21434255
thanks for sharing mate, I think I'll give my dad a call tonight.

>>21434203
>Motherfuckers think that because we buy coins, that means we all think Bitcoin, crypto, stocks, bonds, property, whatever the fuck else is inferior and wrong.
yes
probably because they hear the loudest of us, who often do talk shit on all the other asset classes.

>>21434118
We should've had higher rates going in to this, and not have done all the corporate tax cuts and spending increases, etc. Shit, the effects of the tariffs were still working their way through the economy. We should have had some ammunition saved up, instead of going all out when unemployment was already at an alltime low, etc. etc.

But NOW? I can't condone raising rates now. That would be insane. Economy would be crushed in the deflation spiral, everyone would be out of a job, and people would seriously go out and riot.

That's what the riots were about anyways, you don't fire all of the "non-essential" workforce and terrify them with a confusing and mysterious illness, and not expect there to be riots. People need to work.

>>21434328
I'm not blaming people for saving, but the american consumer is one of the economic growth engines in the international economy. If they start becoming cultural savers like the germans or the japanese, I think this country might be finished. Beyond emergency expenses, I want them spending. Preferably no on chinese shit.

>>21434388
nah

>>21434360
Never tried to, dipshit. I don't give a fuck what you think about other things and if I did I'd join you in a thread discussing bitcoin. All I said was 'promoting one thing is not inherently admonishing an other.'

>>21434255
Your dad sounds based.

>>21434423
>Beyond emergency expenses, I want them spending
Why do so many retards fall for keynesian thought?

>>21434423
> Economy would be crushed in the deflation spiral
My original point was that low interest rates and money printing was what’s causing deflation as it’s killing money velocity we can’t just keep going in the same direction and expect it to have different results

sup anons!

riddle me this. i come from the far east of Russia, beautiful nature, mountains, pacific ocean, king crabs, whatever you may ask for.
one very wealthy high-up criminal from my hometown is trying to mine gold in my region, which tells me it's there, he is a smart guy.
i've been thinking. what if i go back and start gold panning? scout the area, find good spots and try my luck?

it'd be a huge change but i'm tired of it all, i am tired of the rat race, even though i haven't been a classical wagie for more than a decade now. live a frugal life in the nature, raise kids, wash gold and maybe try to find some gems, dunno.

Reminder that we're all gonna make it.

<3

>>21434536
Do it but please take me with you

>>21434513
I'm always open to having my mind changed. But it's probably too late in the evening for me to learn new things.

>>21434531
That makes sense pre-shutdown/recession/depression. But I don't think that's what's causing the deflationary pressures now.

>>21434536
>crabs
CRABS GET OOOUUUUTTTTT

>>21434423
>Beyond emergency expenses, I want them spending
Spending is good when saving is also occurring. Spending with no saving is a recipe for disaster.

MMMMMMMM DELICIO

>>21434536
prospecting for a living is hard, so good luck to you if you wanna go that way anon. I have a a lot of experience with metal detecting so if you have any questions about that let me know, but I know very little about what sorta gold you'd find in Russia compared to Aus or the soil mineralisation or anything.

>>21434573
>deflationary pressures

>>21434536
Won't be easy. If you find a really good spot keep quiet or else gopniks from all of siberia will come over to steal your gold.
Do some research on the laws concerning gold panning. Might not be legal if you lack permits.
There's a lot of alluvial gold in Eastern Russia tho

>>21434486
my dad is an incredible guy. so glad he made it to meet my first born.
>>21434307
God bless you too bro.
>>21434417
call him, when he's gone you'll remember every conversation you ever had.

>>21434536
I hear Russia's far East has incredibly rich Gold deposits, but also the most brutal winters in all of Russia.

Never forget what happened in 1971.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>>21431549
I almost took his bait last thread but decided not to. It was a well thought out post asking him to explain why he thought credit and debt was a good thing. But then again all jews think that, so it would have been redundant.

>>21434423
>Saving money is a drain on the economy, it’s something you should only encourage in the people you care about.
>Beyond emergency expenses, I want them spending.
Make up you mind, if you don't see the hypocrisy
in thinking its ok for you to save but the guy across the street isn't allowed to, go apply to the FED because I hear the need more elitists like you.

>>21434573
>I'm always open to having my mind changed. But it's probably too late in the evening for me to learn new things.
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Saving

>>21433872
>>21433919
You know, I just realized the only bars I have are these (10 of them) and that everything I have is in 1oz pieces. Once I get the 5oz ATB ones next week I'll have a little more variety.

>>21431533
shiver me timbers

>>21434727
>credit and debt are bad
What?
Do you want to live in an economy where you need to save money for everything in order to purchase it?
It would be extremely difficult for capital to form or for people to buy houses or anything large. We would be collectively poorer without credit.
You people are fucking stupid and have no actual arguments, you run away from us when we refute your bullshit with basic logic.

>>21434513
>mises
>human action
>humans act
Human action is such a retarded book and you'd know if you actually read it.
Mises just dumps all psychology, sociology, and philosophy and replaces it with retarded axioms

Why hasn't the news of Buffett moving into a gold miner moved the market? I see a few articles about it from goldbugs, but most miners are flat.

>>21434804
>Do you want to live in an economy where you need to save money for everything in order to purchase it?
It comes hand in hand. If everyone is forced to save up for big purchases the big purchases will be priced where it's affordable with some saving.
Once debt enters the picture the price goes up and prices out the savers, now people can only afford them if they take in debt.
Shabbat Shalom to you

>>21434815
>Human action is such a retarded book and you'd know if you actually read it.
So I see you haven't read it either.
>retarded axioms
True axioms, yes. Basically what is and what is not possible for humans to do. Psychology has little to do with this. Humans could be incredibly retarded and irrational and it wouldn't change praxeology.

>>21433335
>>21431710

Nazi Germany: a welfare-warfare state, just like modern-day America.

"Hitler suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country."

https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics

"Hitler’s rearmament program was military Keynesianism on a vast scale. Hermann Goering, Hitler’s economic administrator, poured every available resource into making planes, tanks, and guns. In 1933 German military spending was 750 million Reichsmarks. By 1938 it had risen to 17 billion with 21 percent of GDP taken up by military spending. Government spending all told was 35 percent of Germany’s GDP."

...

Hitler produced military wealth while private citizens starved. Employed on the largest scale ever seen, military Keynesianism created only ruin.

...

Agricultural output rarely surpassed 1913 levels, in spite of 20 years of technological advancement. Demand outstripped supply by 30 percent in basic foodstuffs like pork, fruit, and fats. That meant that for every ten German workers who stood in line to buy meat from the state-owned supply depots, three went home hungry. The same story was retold when it came to cars, clothing, and iron. New houses had to be built with wooden plumbing, because iron was so scarce. Nationalized iron depots couldn’t produce enough for the army, let alone civilians. Clothing was rationed.

https://mises.org/library/starvation-and-military-keynesianism-lessons-nazi-germany

>>21434804
debt to buy a house is fine debt to buy the latest cell phone is stupid and our current civilization encourages exactly that.
furthermore usury is evil and should be banned outright.
Usury takes what should be unproductive, money, and makes it productive and sodomy takes what should be productive, sex, and makes it unproductive.
That is the general reason why both were tightly controlled in any traditional society. Both invert the natural order.

>>21434804
It’s not that credit and debt are bad, it’s that zero interest credit and debt are bad. Borrowing should cost money and it should cost a lot of money the way to fix this situation would be to let interest rates find their own price and purge all the bad debts from the system if you go bankrupt tough shit that’s how Darwinism works somebody cleverer and more adapted will take your place

>>21431533
Dragon Hordes > Pirate Booty

>>21434856
>If everyone is forced to save up for big purchases the big purchases will be priced where it's affordable with some saving.
But there are still people who would prefer to buy things on credit because they have a shorter time preference. You're making society poorer by taking this away from them.
Not to mention the absolute disaster entrepreneurs would be going through, running their businesses would be much more difficult.
>Once debt enters the picture the price goes up
It doesn't work like that lmao
Expensive things like houses would always be out of reach of the typical person unless they have a mortgage.
Even if they had to save, they would still need to save for a considerably long amount of time just to buy their house. If they had credit, they could buy it immediately.
You're clueless.

>>21434804
>Debt: owing money
>Interest: extra tacked on

Of course there is going to be interest, that's the nature of the beast. But to argue that it's good and not a form of extended slavery? Think about this: essentially someone is at their wits end because they can't make enough to survive, because their money doesn't have enough value because (((you))) printed it to high heavens. They are then forced to go to (((you))) to pay other debts they incurred because (((you))) destroyed the worth of their labor by the printing that deviated so far from the worth of their labor, ensuring them less of a chance to enjoy they're later years. (((you))) profit off of this, the extended toiling of someone who is now a slave to (((you're))) (((dollar))) that isn't worth a fraction of the gold it's (((supposed))) to be backed on. How is that not robbery? Keeping someone shackelled for the sake of (((your))) sheckels?

>>21434972
>You're making society poorer by taking this away from them.
It's called making them have some sense of responsibility and financial planning. Not that it'd help your business eh Shylock

>Expensive things like houses would always be out of reach of the typical person unless they have a mortgage.
>Chooses to ignore that 100 years ago you could buy a house with a year or two's worth of wages
>I'm the clueless one

>>21434887
>bt to buy a house is fine debt to buy the latest cell phone is stupid and our current civilization encourages exactly that.
This is purely the result of central banking and artificially low interest rates.
If gold and silver was money, savings would be highly prioritized and debt discouraged.

>furthermore usury is evil and should be banned outright.
LMAO, I'm so fucking glad you evil bastards aren't in charge of the economy
Imagine the disaster we would face if we didn't have credit, imagine the human suffering.

>That is the general reason why both were tightly controlled in any traditional society.
The traditional economy was POOR AS FUCK. That's why we have so much more wealth now because we got rid of cartels, guilds and dumb anti-usury laws and instead allowed free markets and free trade.
Industrial revolution happened because we opened up markets in Britian.
You're clueless.
>natural order.
Not a real thing.

>>21434699
Wish the site was less chaotic and there was a small paragraph of explanation between the charts. Would be a powerful Normie Redpilling tool.

>>21434908
>it’s that zero interest credit and debt are bad
Which is the result of central banking and nothing else.
We need to abolish central banking.

>>21435002
>>Interest: extra tacked on
lmao
Yeah as an incentive to lend in the first place.
Why the fuck would someone lend their money for FREE when they get ZERO benefit and have to take on ALL of the risk?
Are you insane?
Think about what you are proposing.
Why are there so many brain dead /pol/fugees in /pmg/ now?
Your ideology is completely at odds with what we believe.

>>21434688
yes, winters are very harsh, especially in my hometown which is 300m from the sea shore, so winds are out of this world, the temp itself is not as bad as the continental parts, but wind makes it 10x worse

>>21434663
for now it's just a research phase. on top of gold panning itself one could create content, stream it, YT, whatever

>>21434638
so I could detect gold nuggets in the soil? sweet


thanks for the replies! have some Thai gold bullion

>>21434830
Look again

>>21435002
And keep in mind I know interest is a thing, it's a price for a service, totally understandable. My original argument is that it's all based on the value of labor to the value of the dollar, backed on the value of the gold standard for context

>>21435049
Say I lent you 200000oz of gold at 1% interest. You'll never be able to pay it back because that's more gold than there is in the world. Interest is a mathematical trick and isn't sustainable in the real world

>>21435041
>It's called making them have some sense of responsibility and financial planning.
This doesn't need to be forced. You can just abolish central banking and allow interest rates to raise back up to natural market levels.
>Shylock
Do you have Schizophrenia? Me and other anons mocked you retards earlier, Take your meds.


>>Chooses to ignore that 100 years ago you could buy a house with a year or two's worth of wages
Source?
I know this is bullshit.

I bet you don't even know why houses are so expensive nowadays. I bet you don't even know what central banking is. You people are dumb spergs and should go back to /pol/

Interest rates should be priced at 20% considering how much debt we have accumulated, it would really show who’s been living beyond their means and who hasn’t

>>21435090
That’s when Nixon did the thing. Got off the gold standard. Debased the currency.

>>21435164
That’s madness.
Take meds.

>>21435049
>having debt makes you rich
>no debt makes you poor
having debt makes you a slave and being debt free means you are a free man.
Central banks create money out of nothing by way of debt and enslave entire countries
debt=slavery simple as
and now i remember you are that fucking kike shill. thankfully its Saturday in tel aviv and night can't happen soon enough.
enjoy your shabbat

>>21435138
the value of labor should have nothing to do with the value of money, this is absurd

>>21435152
>You'll never be able to pay it back because that's more gold than there is in the world
Nobody would ever have this much gold lmao
This trade would never take place because it's impossible.
> Interest is a mathematical trick and isn't sustainable in the real world
lmao I love when low IQ schizophrenics think they have the entire world figured out but in reality, they're just stupid fucks

A lot of these discussions about interests and credit are very different depending on the context. With unprintable, non-fiat currency things look a lot different, and it's by far the biggest factor when considering how interest rates should be applied.

>>21435204
>having debt makes you a slave and being debt free means you are a free man.
Yeah, I know. That's why I want to end central banking and cancel the debt.
Free banking would highly discourage debt, the price of borrowing money would be based on the amount of savings in the economy and nothing more.

>and now i remember you are that fucking kike shill
No, you're just having schizophrenic delusions again.
Are you that retard that support central banks as long as white people control them?
You're actually retarded lmao
Kill yourself.

>>21435096
Venetian profit-sharing and Islamic renting is not interest, they lend their money for a fee but also bears the risk of the borrower losing it, that's why they're more careful about who they loan it to.

Compare it with compounding interest that fucks the borrower over and gets the lender free long-term income with the interest payment while the borrower tries to stay afloat

>>21432175
>>21432086

I don't think people realize quite how bound hating Jews is to the Nazi ideology. People hated Jews before the 20th century, but it was virtually always for religious reasons. That's where you get that massive list of Jewish expulsions from. You hated or persecuted Jews for the same reason that you did Quakers or Deists. As Thomas Jefferson said to Mordecai-Manuel Noah,

"Your [the Jewish] sect, by it's sufferings, has furnished a remarkable proof of the universal spirit of religious intolerance: inherent in every sect, disclaimed by all while feeble, and practised by all when in power."

This is why the Founding Fathers of America welcomed Jews. Thomas Jefferson wanted to give them equal rights; and George Washington said:

"May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants."

You won't find anybody in the past talking about some grand Jewish conspiracy, because it is wholly a modern fiction. The few non-religious criticisms of Jews before the modern era were actually the same which people would make now of Nazis. Tacitus, in antiquity, says that they are too racialist and insular, and that they don't mix enough with other people. G. K. Chesterton, who hated Hitler and the Nazis, actually pointed out that Naziism is merely a feeble imitation of Zionism.

The "Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race" derives solely from two sources, first, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a demonstrable hoax from the early 20th century; and secondly, the Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, by Houston Stewart Chamberlain. Hitler loved Stewart Chamberlain, and adopted his ideology wholesale. But it was based on nothing.

G. K. Chesterton, Sir John Glubb, Enoch Powell, J. R. R. Tolkien, George Orwell are all men of the highest moral character from the past whom I adore. All of them hated Hitler, none of them believed in the Jewish conspiracy.

>>21435096
I added that I understand it's an incentive to lend. This I understand. I'll keep this simple before resorting to just flat out naming the (((you))). You argued in the last thread that it's a good thing. How is that good? Extending someone's debt? Morally speaking, how is that good when central banking is solely responsible for destroying the value of a man's labor? I'm looking for a genuine response.

>>21435233
No shit.
These dumb nazi manchildren have no idea how great this country was when we had sound currency.
We created the industrial revolution and middle class on a gold standard with no central bank.
Meanwhile they think this is a bad thing because hitler hated this system.
Idiots.

>>21433779
So says Cuauhtemoc, Eagle Warrior of Tenochtitlan.

>>21435262
>I'll keep this simple before resorting to just flat out naming the (((you))).
I think you're jewish yourself and projecting hard.
You really don't understand economics and are just here to shill.
>How is that good?
How is credit good? I just gave you many examples. A society without credit would be very poor and stagnant. Credit has a social function.
>Extending someone's debt?
People need debt sometimes. It can help them be financially sound later in life by getting into a temporary amount of debt now and using those funds to create wealth.
>how is that good when central banking is solely responsible for destroying the value of a man's labor?
I already told you I'm against central banking. Hitler was in support of it.

>>21435294
We get it completely, and why we want to go back to that original standard. You still haven't explained why you think debt is good when it is in fact the byproduct of the destruction of said standard, payment for a man's labor and service.

Inaccurate weights and measures are an indescribable evil

>>21435382
Just filter his ass, I can't believe it took me this long this time to do just that, he is not interested in honest conversation.
he will drive every discussion toward nazis despite his hate because it gives him a way to control the conversation and shit the conversation away from precious metals and in to bullshit.
its all pilpul every last word he says and he can be safely ignored

>>21435153
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951d02928953b&view=1up&seq=251
>Modest home cost around $4000
>Sample annual salary was $2500
Of course, the article also talks about installments but that's a separate topic

Similarly, why are college tuition over the roof now? Because of the prevalence of student loans that take decades to pay back. But sure continue to pilpul if you wish

>>21435212
>Nobody would ever have this much gold lmao
>This trade would never take place because it's impossible.
Statistically improbable, but still possible.
If you're advocating for PMs you better stop trying to play games that only fiat can do

>>21435358
I'm quite white, thank you for the compliment. But why do people "need" debt? To keep lining the central banks pockets that you're supposedly totally against? You're playing both sides.

>>21435444
In with the trips of truth. Bless you anon.

>>21435110
I wonder what this will do to silver and the silver stocks
I hope some Warren buffet figure will start stacking massive amounts like Sprott's been doing

>>21435262
>>21435455

>>Extending someone's debt? Morally speaking, how is that good when central banking is solely responsible for destroying the value of a man's labor?

Central banks destroy the value of our labour by currency debasement. That has nothing to do with permitting people to take out loans under a gold standard. Even the word "usury" doesn't necessarily refer to all borrowing at interest. A few random definitions:

"Usury is the practice of making _unethical_ or _immoral_ monetary loans."

"Usury is the act of lending money at an interest rate that is considered _unreasonably high_ or that is higher than the rate permitted by law."

"Usury: the lending of money at _extremely high_ interest rates."

This is why Julius Caesar, for example, put a ceiling on interest-rates at 12%. But he didn't abolish borrowing at interest altogether.

>>21433830

There's a malicious actor here who has been trying to destroy /pmg/ for weeks. He used to spam every thread with calls to buy SLV; he now spreads neo-Nazi ideology in an attempt to discredit us.

>>21435521
Putting a cap on rates is also immoral though, letting the free market decide is the only moral choice if it decides its higher than 12% so be it eventually they will come back down. Quoting our new goldbug friend Buffett “ It's only when the tide goes out that you discover who's been swimming naked”

>>21435444
listen to this man. I've dealt with this particular retard before. he doesn't stack gold or silver, only that most precious of resource; (you)s.

>>21435101
You could potentially detect nuggets but it takes a lot of perseverance, and again I wouldn't bet on it unless there's been a history of finding nuggets in the area.
>>21435110
>after hours
serves me right, I was only looking at market close. I know Buffett only invested in Barrick but do you know if it has effected other miners?

>>21435580
>He used to spam every thread with calls to buy SLV; he now spreads neo-Nazi ideology in an attempt to discredit us.
Look at this folks because this is grade A right here.
No one is spreading "neo-nazi" ideology and there is no us. This is right out of the playbook.
He is trying to insert himself in to the conversation, and direct the conversation toward an enemy and in that way gain control and ingratiate himself with the community.
See the following slide.
and don't fall for this idiot he is the SLV shill or working with him

>>21435680
Others also went up, but only about 1-2%

>>21435604

I agree. The only point I'm trying to make by quoting Caesar is that people in the past, when they condemned usury, or ūsūria, were not even necessarily condemning all borrowing at interest. OvyBT4fD seemed to be making a kind of dichotomy between "the pure past," when everybody was against usury, and "the evil present," when the evil Jews took everything over and forced it on us. (Completely ignoring the fact that Keynes was a gentile, and that he, and not Jews, created the modern fiat system, which is the real way in which our labour is confiscated.)

>>21435686

/pmg/ has always been against Naziism. If you don't know this, you only just turned up here. Nazis were Keynesians who hated gold, Keynes was a gentile, and most of the great Austrians were Jews. Gold is the foundation of all freedom, and it wasn't Jews who took that away from us, it was socialists like your master Hitler. Again, anti-semitism, when not religiously motivated, is almost entirely a product of Naziism, as I pointed out here. >>21435259

Wondering if I should get a 20 1oz Gold coins. I want to get 2020 ones so I can remember my pmbros and this golden age. I think I will wait for crash tuesday

>>21435797
Maybe get one or two now, there might or might not be a crash

I know it’s bad but I’m probably fomoing into Barrick gold on Monday

>>21435777
Still, that's a hell of a move for a single 500m purchase. It's bullish as fuck and I'm stoked as hell for monday.

Thanks Jannies

>>21433888
No, I only buy local and nobody here has any :(

>>21435966
If you hold it for the next 5 years, you'll make a nice profit. Great long-term investment to have on the side. Some other miners look like a good idea too.
We seriously need to thing about a miners list to add to OP.

>>21436134
Thread immediately became comfier once the usurer was removed. Jannies confirmed not fags today

Time to celebrate by posting pic of coin for the first time

>>21435966
>Barrick
just checked it on robinhood and overnight trading says its 29 now

>>21436216
Qt drawing! Shiny coin! Here's to more comfy threads!

Yeah, the usurer got the better of me. Never again frens, filtering from her on out when he rears his ugly head.

>>21434365
Curious to hear any thoughts you might have anon

>>21436465
It was an interesting read, I’m from the U.K. and didn’t realise the housing bubble down under was as bad but now realise your bubble is monstrous and everyone is burying their heads in the sand, AUS will suffer a lot when it all falls apart it’s just lucky that you actually have resources to fall back on us pommies literally have nothing

>>21436465
I was waiting for the real estate bubble to pop for 6 years now. I just realized I'll be renting till I fucking die, because with all the money printing and all the billionaires around, I can't win against them. Real Estate will be completely sealed off within 100 years. Owning a house will no longer be possible, and we'll have Pod-Flats as a standard.
The only hope is inheritance, opening a successful business or winning big on investments, that's it. No other way to get into houses.

>>21436597
Remove the Chink menace and all the currency used for real estate will dry up.

>>21436517
As you can probably tell from the read our government is doing everything it can to keep the bubble inflated but I just don't see there being anywhere else to go, aside from negative interest rates which are immensely unpopular.
With immigration stopped for the foreseeable future I do think there will be a big correction, but we'll have to wait until the end of the current government fiscal stimulus program to find out (JobKeeper, basically paying businesses $1500 per employee per fortnight to retain employees, starts tapering off in September and ends in March 2021).

I just dunno what to do at the moment (aside from slowly stacking), I've saved up a solid amount for a house deposit and all I want is a nice veggie patch where I can grow chillis and make sauces for my friends.

Should we expect a gold price pump Monday morning because of Buffett?

>>21437237
Well, we can only hope.

>>21434203
>Pay premium for purchase
>Pay tax on purchase
>The moment your gold/silver arrive at your door they're effectively with a sizable chunk less than spot
>Nobody is going to buy your metals back for anything above spot
>Have to pay taxes on any gains you made after the exchange

I'm a stscklet with only 60oz silver and 3 oz gold but I don't understand how this is a good store of wealth desu. It's a liability from the get-go and spot needs to rise significantly just to break even for most people.

>>21438129
We bought a long time ago.

You had 3.8 billion years

>>21438221
The gold on this planet was probably formed in a super nova double or triple that time period he had even more time

Morning! Got a big day of mining stock research today.

>>21431792
what about your metapost?

>>21431549
paperhorders will cry a lot. end of september the insolvent companies in euroland have to make it public and then whole dimension of the economic crash are visible.

>>21432328
what happened?

>>21438129
>>Pay tax on purchase
That's your shit country, a lot of countries have no tax on fine PMs (.99 and above purity). Also, spot is irrelevant in private sales, check eBay and other online sales sites and you'll see the prices track what the mints sell their rounds/coins for, not what the spot price is.

>>21433723
> over regulation of free speech
i guess the commies entered. fuck you all. you are trying to be politically correct and to silence others. this is peek reddit-tier.

Jesus Christ dude, do you ever quit?

>21438538
>21438443
>21438415
He's back already guys.....

>given a list of miners to look at
>non of them are available on robinhood

>>21438626
That should make you think...

>>21438365
Same, I’m surprised how many pennystock Miners there are. I doubt they’ll all make it tho. Their charts are weird too, like you can literally see when they struck the vein.

>>21438709
I'm seeing all this news about Buffett buying into Barrick, as though he is buying gold. The two are very different. Lots of shills in PMs, we need to be careful and do lots of research.

>>21438964
I think he simply considers gold to be in a better place than the dollar long term. I think everyone here swims in the right direction, even if not on the same boat.

Google Trends: Barrick
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&geo=US&q=Barrick

>>21439190
He didn't buy physical gold though, he just bought a miner that gets paid upon sale of the gold. He could just be buying it to profit off what he thinks will be a speculator gold rush like we saw between 2010-'12. Then he can sell it at the peak.

>>21439299

>>21439357

>>21439324
He bought a miner because he thinks said miner will be increasing profits. When does a miner make more money? When gold is worth more.
He also dumped his bank stocks. Use your fucking head

>>21439357
Lol buffet buys gold search term

>>21439469
>He also dumped his bank stocks. Use your fucking head
He just purchased a much bigger holding in Bank of America.

>>21439190
are you saying we have a fleet?

>>21431459
aarrgghh mateys!

>>21439420
Barrick employees in Zambia most likely searched for Barrick when the news came out about the BRK purchase of shares.

>>21439513
Just stay poor, faggot. I don't give a fuck

>>21439561
Just stay retarded, faggot. I don't give a fuck. ;)

>>21435444
>>21435485
>>21435658
>>21435382

lmao Why do you /pol/shitters think you're welcome here? You don't even hold PMs, you don't support austrian economics etc
The anon I was replying to was actually retarded enough to say that credit in and of itself is a bad thing.

As if the idea of loaning someone money and expecting to get something in return is a bad thing.
Kill yourselves.

Daily reminder:
DON’T FEED THE TROLLS

>>21439626
THEN JUST BUY FUCKING BANKS AND GTFO

>>21439549
I hope the employees in Zambia buy shares in the company they work for this could be very lucrative for them

>>21439720
I'm a stacker and mentioned earlier I'm researching miners (And already own the etfs), I'm just pointing out what a bunch of morons you are for thinking Buffett is betting against banks and on gold just because he bought shares of a large mining company that gets paid upon extraction.

>>21436437
You didn't even have any actual argument, you kept spewing your commie bullshit. I literally just fell asleep.

>>21436271
Retard, I'm bullying the neetsoc invaders who hate PMs and free markets and turn everything off-topic and you're happy about this?
Not comfy at all fren

>>21439708
>doing research is trolling
Didn't know it was trolling to point out Warren has more than 10% of his portfolio in Bank of America.

>>21439860
*correction: Owns more than 10% of Bank of America

>>21439835
well, if he isnt betting against certain banks, why would he lower his exposure to them?

>>21439885
because he wants to

>>21432544
>nazi larpers
Fuck off with that afghan, granny larper.

>>21439885
He trimmed his holdings in banks that he thought were weaker than BAC, after buying a prolific amount of BAC.

In 2008 there was a risky debt crisis on banks, in 2020 the banks are healthier because of dodd frank and other policies that were passed - they are leveraged much less if you compare their 10ks and the debt crisis has been moved to the overleveraged businesses - hence why the government is focusing on stimulus for them rather than the banks.

2008 = bank debt crisis
2020 = business debt crisis

>>21435686
>No one is spreading "neo-nazi" ideology and there is no us.
People literally are though lmao.
There are actually people here who think central banks are a good thing as long as everyone is white.
The bottom line is nazis are keynesians interventionists and aren't welcome here.
They hate Peter Schiff and the economists we support.
No wonder the SLV shill is desperately trying to make us look batshit insane.
The media is gearing up to make gold holders into "evil neo-nazis" or whatever, it's coming.

>>21440009
>they are leveraged much less
looool
the fact that we had factually 0 base interest for the past 10 years tells me otherwise. they have to be leveraged, or they would have gone bankrupt.

>>21434255
sweet story, man.

>>21440104
>>21440009
infact, it wouldnt suprise me if they arent more heavily leveraged than before 2008. just look at the regulation changes happening in the march crash, look at the current rates for consumer credits. shits on fire yo

>>21440063
Variations of the DNST3 gene make Ashkenazi Jews 40 percent more likely to develop schizophrenia.
It's ok to be white.
>>21440104
Is leverage even a thing with a debt based economy? It's a win-win. Print money or collect assets.

>>21440159
*it wouldnt suprise me if they are

>>21440205
Interesting, but nazis are still faggots.
You can be pro-white and not a nazi manbaby.

>>21430429
>rigged
I read that as nigged but then I realized that what happening too

no title? I always try and find /pmg/ with CTRL f in the catalog.

>>21432513
Are you saying GDXJ and SILJ are scams? I have a few thousand invested in them and I dont believe they are scams for a second

>>21440300
With your schizophrenia, you'd never notice the difference.

>>21433670
That guy looks like Steve McQueen.

No I'm not a boomer, I promise.

Expect this post to be swiftly deleted, as with everybody else who has shown screenshots of warnings or bans.

>>21440412
Its Patrick McGoohan

>>21440437
I can read filenames, thanks.
Thought the pic was a scene from The Great Escape at first

>>21440373
That was misdirection copypasta back in the paperfag era a week or so ago where he'd swap out GLD and SLV in the original post with GDXJ and SILJ. Currently they've changed tactics by first roleplaying as Nazis, then as Austrian concern trolls to D&C us

>>21434360
Retard

>>21433723
this is an important post
I wish the rest of 4chan were this well-informed, but I think only places like finland or germany have an aware populace

>>21440422
/pmg/ is the only Libertarian refuge on 4chan. I don't want to see these thread get destroyed by keynesian nazi brainlets with their economic illiteracy.
They repeat the same fallacies commies do and never admit they're wrong when holes are poked in their arguments.
Nazis literally support central banking and fiat, they don't belong here at all.

>>21433723
>Please REPORT RACISM
Stop with these gay posts already, you just make yourself look like a subversive if anything.

>>21433723
you need to go back

>>21440461
/pmg/ is an Austrian thread though, retard
Why do you think we hold pms in the first place?
Where do you think our theories of the US dollar crashing come from?

>>21440557
Interesting to note that quite many of the Austrian Economics "personalities" consider themselves Anarcho-Capitalists and not Libertarians.

>>21434423
>If they start becoming cultural savers like the germans or the japanese, I think this country might be finished. Beyond emergency expenses, I want them spending.
I wonder WHY this country would be "finished" if people started saving more? It's almost like this country is built on high time preference, low IQ gibmedats, and seeing something like that be "finished" may not be such a bad thing.

>>21440398
You're the person who calls anyone he doesn't like a jew, take your meds.

>>21440610
Ancaps consider themselves Libertarians. They just claim to be a purer form of it.

>>21440596
>if you support x, you must also support y and be z
no

>>21434536
Literally work for him, show him the spots where you get the most gold and such. Best to get on his good side huh?

>>21440557

It's not a fair game. They bait you with antisemitism, draw you into a discussion, and only you get the ban, while all their posts remain. Obviously there's a sympathizer among the moderators.

>>21440651
>Ancaps consider themselves Libertarians. They just claim to be a purer form of it.
Technically correct, yes.

>>21440658
I mean, yes? Why else would you hold pms, because they're shiny?
If you aren't an austrian, you don't belong here senpai.

>>21434830
Cause its Saturday

>>21440706
100% agree with this

>>21440063
what you think you are seeing, rhetoric wise, is in large part a completely natural and predictable push back from all the BLM backed propaganda that has been pushing this imaginary racist/slaver/inequality lie

what do you think white working people are going to think or say or do when they see a roving bands of BLM welfare monkeys and their idiots supporter roaming unchecked destroying and burning the country, destroying statues and history and trying to appropriate it and replace the actual founders of this great nation with random token niggers just because this lie about racism and ongoing slavery?
"they" pulled the racist card, with race baiting and lies. they incited a race war.
it wasn't the whites of america that did his we are too busy working and building things
because of what they have done "they" have created division and racism where it didn't exist or hasn't existed for over 200 years

running around screaming at everyone telling them if they font support "BLM" and actively join the "BLM team" then your a violent racist, is automatically going to make people dislike everything about BLM

>>21440718
Gatekeepers get out.

>>21440718
>Monarchs held PMs
>States held PMs
>Even commies made PM coinage
>"If you hold PMs you must be Austrian!"
By the way time for you to show stack

>>21434830
Watch Google Trends for the term "barrick". It hasn't gone mainstream although a marked increase in the search term has occured in the recent 24 hours. It seems the relative increase in the search for "barrick" is coming from districts where Barrick Gold has operations. That would imply that the people searching are employees. Once the term increases broadly, it will indicate normie interest in the subject.

>>21440779
tl;dr, fuck rioting vandalist blm and fuck welfare joggers

>>21440422
>>21440557
/pmg/ is a precious metals thread. You will get people from all walks of life, and of different beliefs.
>/pmg is an [insert my ideology] thread
all youre doing is shitting up the thread with irrelevant bs.
>but its duh NOTSIES doing that!
Youre taking up more space with retarded screencaps and "buh notsy admens bayned me" than anything. Just cause someone makes a joke about Big Floyd or Jews doesnt mean you get to come sperg out and kvetch til nobody likes you.

>>21433850
99% of the people here have already shot their wad and are as invested in pms as they can be and future purchases won't make a big difference. For those people proper revaluation would be preferable

>>21440881

You're a duplicitous liar. I was banned for replying to people making lengthy neo-Nazi arguments, people who always cast the first stone. I was rational and civil in my conduct. Their posts stay up, and ours are removed, and we are banned. That's the issue here. We're not answering the odd antisemitic joke, we are answering arguments with arguments.

>>21433938
The circle cut out is the highest grade anti-counterfeiting method in any silver coin

>>21440991
Actually I have probably another 60k I am going to put into gold. I withdrew everything out of my 401k. Tax me to hell, but I am out of fiat for investing. No stonks no 401k but I do want to get a tube of 1 oz gold coins. I am just waiting for gold to dip. If not then it goes into bitcoins.

>>21433859
fren?

>>21432544
why do you dress like a women?

>>21431459
5oz Frosty bois reportin in

>>21441170
If the united states doesnt want to thats fine. There will be other countries that will pay handsomely and above premiums. I will be taking my yacht and seaworthy crew and visit other countries and selling my coins for top premiums. The US is no longer the world reserve currency. They will be left behind.

>>21441000
>>21441170
Media was infiltrated by the Cabal and CIA so long ago, think how fucking bad it's now. It basically belongs to them at this point. They create the reality and self-fulfilling prophecies. If you hear about riots non stop for 2 months, there will be more riots just because that's how the masses are being programmed.
And then you have the educational system. Not a word about Finances, if you study it later, they will give you just enough knowledge to be an Accountant of someone much richer than you'll ever be. How is this possible that people are more financially illiterate than ever before? How can Universities openly push for Communism? When did it all go so wrong? Obama's first term?

>>21437237
I’d say miners are more likely to pump.

>>21441031

By the way, if anybody doubts this, see the previous two threads. My id in the first thread is 23Vcx1oW, in the second 8GIZ8TEA. Notice no neo-Nazis and everybody happy and contented, and talking intelligently, until they flood into the second thread like a swarm of locusts. I say nothing to provoke them. I simply talk about gold and mining stocks, and they simply turn up and start flooding.

>>21413417

>>21421987

Any want to tell me what the cheapest silver (any form/purity) you've seen online today is? Findbullionprices doesn't catch all the deals. I'm going to lcs today.

>>21441291
lol. I was thinking the other day about how if the US instituted strict capital controls and high wealth taxes, the industry hit the hardest would be Bermuda/Bahamanian yacht sellers. The price of yachts would plummet there as people sail there to fly elsewhere and dump their boats.

>>21441257
Good morning, fren.

>>21441455
>Any want to tell me what the cheapest silver
usually old latin american coinage with weird purity is pretty cheap and close to spot.
old balboas, mexican silver, etc.

>>21441361
WWII. Honestly, we let a lot of Jewish socialists come over to the US after WWII and become university professors. With the GI Bill, we had a lot more people then going to college and the university systems grew. These Jews came into department chairs and positions of power, taught their subversion, and then hired their best students. Once departments were fully stocked with their own, there was no one to pushback on their crazy subversions.

Here's an example of what I mean. >>21441641 Is this person going to be banned for being "off topic?" Of course not. He can speak his antisemitism as leisurely as he wants. But if we simply reply to it, we get a ban, and all our posts are wiped.

>>21441405
>>21441031
>>21440698
>>21440422

>>21441719
>the goyim know
>shut it down
jewkike detected

>>21441719
Meh. I answered a question with reality.
>Muh anti-semitism
Fuck off. I don’t hate anyone specifically for their heritage. But the people fucking us are of a specific heritage. It’s undeniable. I feel bad for average Jews who get gaslit into protecting these evil Folks because of their circling the wagons. Average Jews end up being human shields protecting the Kabbalistic Cabal. There are a lot of good Jews, but our problems stem from a group of Jews.

>>21441031
Cry moar faggot.

>>21441165
you in 941 too?
do you need a fren anon?

>>21441919

Claiming that a person who is censored is supporting censorship. Exactly the sort of manipulative deceit which I expect of a neo-Nazi. The Big Lie, after all, was really Hitler's tool, not that of the Jews.

>>21442012

Attack the censored person. Coward.

>>21441983

It just so happens that your "reality" is given special privilege for speech, and ours is denied to us. I always talk about gold in these threads, but you can't cast the first stone, get hit in return, and then run to the tyrants to protect you.

Back on topic
Everyone:
>buy guns
>buy ammo
>buy physical gold
>buy physical silver
>maybe buy mining stocks
>tell bullion bankers and the shills they’ve hired to fuck off
>tell others to buy physical
That is all

>>21442161
>buy ammo
speaking of went to the range yesterday and I think I am getting better but I still need more practice so I think I will go again today

>>21442161
Addendum:
>Buy long term food
>Buy seeds
>Learn to grow food
>learn to sew
>be more self-sufficient
>network with your neighbors and build support groups

>>21442259
Looking good, fren. Keep it up.
Need to add that as they aren’t any good if people can’t use them
>practice said guns

>4:10 PM
>Saturday, August 15, 2020 (GMT+3)
>Time in Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel
Its almost night time watch the thread get suspiciously quiet soon

>>21439626
this is the usury poster isn't it

>>21442369
I'm getting real tired of the concern troll schtick anon. How much longer is he going to do this shit for?

>>21440063
nvm this is the ususry jew shill 100%, I remember this exact nonsense from the previous thread

>>21442537
Also, I have the new thread prebaked. Just say the word anons.

>>21442489
Looks like just an autist arguing over semantics of Buffet's positions to me. "He's actually into gold miners, not gold!!" Even though both are related and normalfags won't know the difference, it's still going to be bullish overall

>>21442369
Shabbat is actually Friday night to Saturday night though. Maybe they're genuinely just autistic Austrians that the jannies got tired of, or they might be outsourced

>>21442594
Please use this OC for a mood reset if you're okay with it

>>21442055
Wow, oppressed on 4chan. However will I get around this.
/ipconfig release /ipconfig renew.

>>21441031
>people who always cast the first stone
kvetching jews always say this and accuse their victims of being the aggressors. I was here last night and it was the jewish retards on the offensive against anyone saying anything remotely counter semitic as nazi, go fuck yourself and leave the board. Nobody wants you here.

>>21442161
Oh and FUCK JEWS! Just to piss off the people in this thread

>>21442664
I will in the thread after if no one else bakes again.
New Thread
>>21442800
>>21442800
>>21442800

>>21442161
>>buy ammo
Is anyone here experiencing shortages at the LGS? I keep hearing abou this.

Also what ratio gold to silver are ppl here stacking, I may have overdid it with silver (1000:3) but keep buying silver bc of the GS ratio.

>>21442161
Learn to handload as well even if it's just with a Lee classic loader.

>>21441257
Got my first 5oz yesterday. I must say I'm a fan of the 5s...