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reading is fucking retarded. We have audiobooks and youtube. Only old dipshits that can't look stuff up actually read. Huge waste of time and the ROI is garbage compared to listening to youtube videos. Hell worst case you can even look at wikihow.

>>21415262

>libertarian rothschild gf

>>21415262
why does this book make redditors seethe?

>>21416378
garbage in = garbage out
don’t underestimate the classics

>>21415262
the redpill on that book is so big that even "libertarians" have a hard time swallowing it

The Art of War
The Intelligent Investor

>>21415262
Ayn Rand is a dogshit writer, and I don't believe that anyone who recommends this book has read it front to cover.
>50+ page monologue
Fuck right off

>>21416378
>listening to youtube videos

if you really believe that, you better start moderating how much information you take from just listening to things, a lot of good information is documented just in books, and just watching youtube is too passive, you'll end up not being able to read and research on your own

>>21416537
because it hurts their fragile vision of human interactions

>>21416378
Based

>>21416378
Helps me relax and sleep. A nice break from electronics too.

>>21415262
little book that still beats the stock market

millennial money

the very hungry caterpillar

>>21416378
lol found joe rogan. audiobooks and youtube stimulate your brain in entirely different ways, this is why you are dopamine addicted fool with the attention span of a housefly.
>>21416694
indeed, Rand is an awful author, but no surprise she would find a fanbase here

>>21415262
Meditations

The Bible.

>>21416378
retardpilled

Buy an e-reader if you wanna go tech-savy, sure paperbacks can seem like a waste of money and materials I can agree with that, but reading the very fucking thing youre doing now is a good thing.

>>21415262
I personally love Kafka-esques and dystopian novels in general. My last read was fahrenheit 451 a great read for >>21416378
maybe you like it! it's literally about burning books.

>>21415262

>>21416378
You have a mental block with books as a medium. I bet you've read web articles that are as long as a book without realizing it, and understand why those are necessary.
It's a bit embarrassing how slow books as a medium have been to bring their presentation to modern Internet standards, and I blame this for how they've been left for boomers. You grew up with cumbersome paper boxes that required you to move away from your computer and ignored them because of that.
Even with e-books you often have black text on white and discrete page-flipping, and have to jump through hoops to make them scroll like a webpage. But if you do some tweaking in Calibre you'll figure out books are just another webpage you can read and unlock centuries of knowledge and storytelling.

didnt this ary bitch right all about "do for self" while getting handouts?

>>21416694
>”she slapped his face”

>>21416378
Absolute state of of zoomers

>>21417506
Probably, she was a jew after all

>>21417338
Is that book just a meme, or actually worth reading?

>>21415262
Rand is awful.

Read: Plato _The Republic_
Michel Foucault _The History of Sexuality_
Karl Marx _The Communist Manifesto_
Lauren Berlant _Cruel Optimism_

>>21417409
Tell me more about this based Pepe poster. Honestly what you posted is completely true for me. I’ve probably read thousands of hours worth of stuff on this goddamn website alone. But can never really get through a book.

The last book I ever read all the way though was the da Vinci code years ago. How do I unlock new age reading gains fren.

>>21416573
The redpill on that book is so big that Rand herself wasn't able to handle it.
I haven't seen anyone who truly understands this book.
The objectivists should be shot for the sacrilege which they are performing by existing.

>>21417691
>Rand is awful.
>Karl Marx
yo just gib me that free shit

o7

>>21415262
what did you gain from this book in terms of insights about life, money, etc? I'm willing to read it because i enjoy books alot so lemem know. I heard that's where "going galt" is from soo yea

>>21417691
>Foucoult
>Marx
Lol 18 year old faggot detected. Let me guess, you think Bukowski is really cool too?

>>21417322
It's about why burning books is very not based and is tied to developing a retard society >>21416378 makes for a nice upstanding member of that retard society

>>21417409
>you'll figure out books are just another webpage
books really hit different.

Books have a story , some kind of lesson to be learned often. some random ass webpage is good for looking up facts and information, the types of books that are now useless thanks to the internet. HAving a book on something like rocket science is basicly useless nowadays.

but a story... man that shit hits different in book form you don't even know, if you do your best and watch a good movie it can have a similar effect. Same for music.

The point is you have to really think with music, many instrumental pieces have amazing stories in them that aren't obscured by the lyrics.

Music with lyrics often discredits the instrumentals (but also often they don't and are a kind of poetry)

Poetry has great stories too.
Movies can be great, a recent movie I watched that was amazing was the revenant, honestly one of the best movies I watched in a long time.

Consuming media is not bad in and of itself, you have to choose the rights ones,

the tabloid or the book
hollywood blockbuster or the art film
the pop album or the miles davis album

of course this shit is not black and white, you have shitty art films/books and jazz/classical/ambient/whatever albums albums(not miles davis albums , fucking love miles)
but also great (ok not tabloids) blockbusters and pop albums.

You just have to make a case by case choice on what you're consuming and consume it all to power that autism you got. Youre on 4chan youre a fucking autist use that superpower to become the smartest - non arrogant motherfucker you know and learn to listen , learn to read.

when you talk you are only repeating what you know but when listen you may learn something new
- dalai lama

>>21416378

>>21416378
>>21415262

Kinda. The important thing is to read only material that goes in depth on the topics you need for whatever you're working on. You're not going to be able to absorb everything you hear or read on first exposure. That's not how long-term potentiation works lol. You need to read because those are going to be the most refined and structured representations of complex topic matters. Some things must be shown, welding for instance. But when it comes to business and analyzing markets its absolutely necessary. Don't waste your time reading stupid bullshit like atlas shrugged. Thats a waste of your precious time and has no long term positive yield in relation to your net worth.. Studying philosophy at least with regards to formal logic and using those sorts of topics is immediately transferable to business. Not drivel and propaganda though. Philosophy is mental masturation but at least teaches you to reason.

And if you think you're going to get rich as fuck in this day and age without being the most charming and charismatic motherfucker on earth you'd be fucking retarded to not learn the art of data science, mathematics, and computer programming. You'll never outpace a market run off of analytics and if you think you can you're a degenerate gambler.

John Ringo Troy rising series starting with live free or die.

Hatching twitter by Nick Bilton.

>>21417724
I bet you're a weeb or at least movie watcher.

what genre movies do you like?
I personally really love cyberpunk and dystopian settings, think anime like ghost in the shell and psycho pass.

If you are a weeb start with manga, read manga. After you read a cyberpunk manga ( if thats your preffered genre) and feel comfy try and read a cyberpunk book, slowly read page by page and when the writer describes a scene close the book , close your eyes and really envision yourself being there. Good writers describe their scenes extremely well, with things like

"When he exited the vehicle he was disdain by the awful smell the smog of the city brought with it, but as soon as he saw the massive billboards and skycrapers that feeling soon vanished, only to be reintroduced by his cab driver when he opened his mouth and said to him
"shut the fuck up faggot" "

or something like that.

>>21417724
1. Download Calibre and set up a library
2. Download epubs, there is a certain website where you can find epubs for almost any book ever made and it's not the same site where you'd download other things.
3. Look at the source code of a web page you find comfy to read and find the link to its CSS style file
4. Copy and paste CSS style into Calibre's custom CSS layout option
5. Tweak the other options until it works like a webpage, the most important by far being the smooth scrolling.
5a. If that webpage doesn't have light text on dark by default you do it manually through the font tab

>>21418206
Thanks man. Gonna read shit after learning Calibre out

>>21418206
>>21417724

DESU I disagree with this. the feeling of a real book 100% outweights reading it in some electronic device.

if you want to buy cheap books : https://www.bookdepository.com/ has free worldwide shipping and their books are decently priced.

However I'd advice you to go to your local library instead. might even help you if youre a socially awkward individual and maybe you find a QT bookwurm gf there.

>>21417663
I’ve never read it but I’ve watched a few clips of kiwosaki on youtube and he gives pretty good advice. mostly breaks you out of the employee consumer mindset

>>21417884

the book is about her philosophy, objectivism, if you are already a libertarian, or something in that realm, its easier to understand, otherwise its very likely you wont even finish the book, it really divides those that absorb the idea, and those who hate it

"In the 1990s, a survey by the Library of Congress named Atlas Shrugged as the most influential book in the US, after the Bible."

>>21417338
>>21417663

idk kinda meme-ish but can be sumarrised in one valuable lesson : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNpoc-lF0M


Kid has two dads. He asks his dads both the same question
"hey dad how do I get rich?"

his poor dad who is a doctor or some high paying shit says "O stay in school get good grades so you can get a job"

rich dad "O you know spend money on assets and minimize liabilites"

literally telling you how to get rich even when you make less money

>>21417765
Explain it then fagot

>>21418293
Yes the feeling of a real book is a benefit, but being able to make anotations and notes in ebooks far outweighs this benefit

>>21418696
>but being able to make anotations and notes in ebooks far outweighs this benefit
Honestly I never do this. what are the benefits of this besides non-fiction books?

I have bought some used books where people have written in and found it rather interesting that they written down words that they looked up... seems rather.... pointless to me?

>>21418007
Arguing against the superior Web-style layout/UX is like arguing against using high definition video in movies. It doesn't change the content, only improves the presentation.
>>21418293
You have nostalgia for physical books and that's fine. I don't. I can't stand them. The layout is awkward in that you have two pages in distinct locations for no abstract reason (just physical limitations) which you need to move your eyes between and physically flip all the time. Paperbacks and flimsy and you need to keep them open, Hardcovers are heavy and cumbersome to read in hands. You need light to read and the experience is just never as comfy as reading light text on dark in a pitch-black room.

>>21417820
ridiculously based

>>21418007
ur fucking retarded bro

>>21418000
Bukowski has some great poems and Ham on Rye was a great read, fuck off

>>21418877
>like arguing against using high definition video in movies. It doesn't change the content,

completely disagree.

high definition video is like those highly detailed and overproduced music nowadays, why do you think lofi and bedroom productions are getting so big lately? people crave for some flaws, books are flawed that's the beaty of them they crack they tear they fold they expand and oh how great it is.

Same for music, you can only listen to so much overproduced pop before you really want to listen to some raw JDilla or something else thats just more RAW.

same with movies and photography, why do you think photographers started using old ass cameras again? not because theyre better they are flawed and the flaws are whats making them beautiful.
that being said I also make electronic music, yes it's great to have a DAW that makes perfectly timed music for me , yes I can listen to very well produced techno for hours on end and yes I can make that and have fun. but sometimes I just want to plug in my inherently flawed guitar and just play without a click track and then play in some drums and other things too, just... so its not all that perfect.

>>21418597
A faggot who can't speak proper English won't be able to comprehend it.

>>21418786
I can't live without it. Both for fiction and non fiction.
I read both to learn, grow, get new perspectives, wisdom, or even just beautiful prose etc.
It's an absolute blessing for me to be able to mark a sentence or whole paragraph or anything in between yellow in 1 sec. That way, if I ever return to the book I basically have a yellow summary of all the best parts condensed. It ha saldo saved me numerous times when I wanted to look up something in a book months or years later with no idea where it was exsctly; now I only have to go through the yellow marked bits instead of combing through the whole book.
I even do this in fiction because good fiction is full of wisdom that I might want to remember or get back to later and it takes a literal second to mark something that I this is worth it.
Writing notes is equally usefully, especially when reading non-fiction, where for example something gives me an idea of my own, or if I disagree with something I can write that down quickly to get my thoughts straight and get a bearing on where I'm at regarding the opinion of the author.
Marking and note taking are absolutely vital to how I read books. It becomes much more engaging. And you learn best and remember best by engaging with stuff.

>>21417663
I very much liked it. It explains the difference between the middle/lower class and the rich in mindset about as well any other book. Some of his career after this is riding the coattails of this books, and for good reason
This book also spawned a huge meme
>buying a house is a liability not an assest

>>21415262
Objectivism is edgy high school philosophy. Ayn Rand died while on welfare.

>>21416694
I've read it cover to cover and I recommend it. The long dialogues and monologues are great. and you're crapping on it but haven't actually read it.

>>21417884
Nothing. Anarcho capitalism is a dogshit ideology.

>>21419114
Maybe the more apt analogy is using a modern display vs using an analog video CRT. Some people will argue that the CRT has something special and captures its time, but these people are almost always old, which seems to confirm it's nostalgia, or hipsters emulating them.
It's a similar situation with people who look for high-fidelity flat spectrum headphones vs people who listen to fucking vinyl analog sound "for the texture" which is objectively a distortion of the original recording. I'm solidly in the former camp for all such cases I can recall.

>>21417691
how the fuck do you recommend plato and marx (a materialist) in the same list of 4 books.
do you even understand what you read?

>>21419756
>book about objectivism
>muh anarcho capitalism
Dumb nigger

>>21420161
>It's a similar situation with people who look for high-fidelity flat spectrum headphones vs people who listen to fucking vinyl analog sound "for the texture"
this 100% shows that you have no knowledge about how audio works or any art for that matter.
That's okay you're a consumer and not an artist you dont need to know.


"high fidelity flat spectrum headphones" vs "analog texture"

Flat headphones are literally for meant for the studio, these will give you the most true sound and are open-backed. These are not meant for listening, they are meant for mixing and for live vocals. for vocal tracking or instrument tracking more often than not you use closed back headphones.

just because they're expensive =/= better quality or "high fidelity". This reminds me of one of my friends that bought some 400 ohm headphones and told me they where shit , yeah first of all. those are flat , second of all you forgot the pre-amp.

Actually vinyl more often than not has the higher fidelity because it is lossless, now some CDs do have lossless compressed files on them so theyre pretty much the same quality.

that being said vinyl is an experience having to put on a vinyl and just that vinyl instead of clicking through song after song on spotify has a certain beauty to it , call it hipster or whatever you want, but the beauty is in the flaw Its completely flawed and thats the beauty. Everyone saying its better quality is either a boomer where it held true, cassettes had shittier quality. or dont know wtf theyre talking about.

That being said cassettes are making a comeback , I love them It's fun to buy a casette and pop it in , the texture it brings after a certain amount of plays is lovely. I think you can really use this in artistic ways.

I know we are talking on a biz board which is mostly crypto thus IT and IT mostly ironed out the analog flaws, but thats the point, we loved those flaws thats what made them special.

I still listen to spotify on the daily tho

>>21420591
ALSO WTF IS UP WITH MY SPACING.

I blame my fucking browser, but thats the irony of my fucking post I suppose, there are still flaws in IT and those flaws are the things we love

>>21416378
>They hated him because he told the truth

>>21419756
your superficial and dumb "analysis" just show how much of a low iq retarded you are

>>21420850
Austrian economics is half-assed philosophy masquerading as economics. No one takes it seriously.

>>21416694
Yeah it's legitimately terrible. Like completely removed from ideology it's a dog shit novel.

>>21417771
you clearly need to read Marx if you think that he's about "giving away free shit" Marx was foremost an historian of economies

Mien Kampf, Siege

>>21420336
Of course I understand them. What the fuck man, have you read these? So what, one should only read idealists or materialists?

Does anybody know any /biz/ related Russian novels? English translated

>>21421140
kys faggot commie shill

>>21421140
>Reply
marx was foremost wrong on economics because dat shit he said was outdated when he said it

-> marginal revolution

google dat shit

>>21421140
This. Marx' is worth the read. Ayn Rand is pure and utter dogshit

>>21421228
Hasn't read Marx. Still has a strong opinion based on other people's bullshit.

>>21421207
>We

Vision of the Anointed by Thomas Sowell

>>21417338

>>21421354
I just like the way they think and write.

>>21420897
Austrian economics is not the same thing as the political prescriptions of libertarianism. Neoreactionaries for example almost universally embrace the former even as they shun the latter.

>>21417322
you also invest time into reading which is a waste when there are faster methods like playing youtube videos in the background or a wikihow article.

>>21420371
he's not wrong.

Anarcho = no government
capitalism = no regulation on markets

and anything by seneca

although i prefer epictetus

>>21415262
So apart from the gay ass political discussion in this thread I am actually in a good mood so I am going to post some books that might really help you faggots out.

but first know: if you cant change shit (you cant), don't bother. politics is a waste of time and keeps you from achieving shit in your life. it's the jew of thoughts. be concerned with your own goals, not poltics.
even you achieve your vision in politics you will still not be better off. anyway,

pic related. it's the one book every trader should read. actually it's so good that you WANT to invest the money into buying the fancy hardcover edition pictured. there's shitload of wisdom in it.

>>21415262
ayn rand was a hypocritical welfare queen.

>>21421976
next on the list is a short and cheap one, but nevertheless good inspiration. nicolas darvas basically did trend following before anyone knew about trend following. if you can't figure out what he is about it's basically buying into the bottom of consolidation-ranges during trends because they have a tendency to break out into the trend direction.

>>21422095
anything market wizards is a great buy + read. there are like idk five or so books in the series. all filled with great and insightful interviews with the who is who of the tradign world (except for george soros and richard dennis i think).
it's a great book for the shitter if you get my drift.

>>21422181
Don't bother buying this one. It's really not that great, but ... if you can download it from the internet there are one or two chapters that are a great introduction to system-trading.

This should all be required reading.

>>21421582

If you're not retarded, reading is a far more efficient method of absorbing information.

Books also go far more in depth than some faggot on jewtube will.

It also makes you a better writer, you could learn much about how punctuation is used if you bothered to read.

>>21422256
If you can only buy one book, buy this one. It's somewhat expensive but most definitely the best book on the topic of technical trading. Though if you already are consistently profitable buy Reminiscences of a stock operator or one of the market wizards books.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Me,_I%27m_Lying

>>21422283
waste of time.

>>21422373

no u

>>21422338
Im reading that atm.

>>21416378
^Brainlet

>>21422335
this one's a great read to get a "winner mindset". on the topic of tradign, apart from one or two setups described, it's not necessarily a great read, but it gives you insight into the mindset of people who excel at trading.

>>21416378
Also, if you can't read faster than you can hear audio you are doing it wrong anon.

worth it

>>21422425

It's really interesting, isn't it?

Here's another good one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Me,_I%27m_Lying

I used to be one of the big dick pills and free ipods guys.

>>21422527

oops, wrong link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics

This one can be a little dry, but it's essential reading if you haven't already accepted that the media is the mouthpiece of the elite.

>>21422465
This one's a great fucking comic. it's FUN to read. fun!? do you understand?! It's a better investment than all the political and economics bs that's being pushed on you in this thread.

there's this story of this one futures trader who specialised in Lumber. he was profitable as fuck. he knew everything there was to know about lumber futures - that is how the price react to news. but one day he was asked about green lumber (that is non-dried wood) and turned out that mother thought 20 years in his career that green lumber was wood that was painted green.

the point of this story is that you do not have to understand shit about a system to make money. you only have to know how it behaves.

>>21415262
at least rec something that isn't trash

>>21418176
Uncle Iroh is the most based. I need to rewatch LoK

Think and Grow Rich
The Richest Man in Babylon
i dont know why so much marxist trash is shilled itt. /lit/ is pozzed dont trust those fucks

>>21422494
b-but isn't TA on crypto useless desu

>>21422758
This one and "Common stock and uncommon profits" are great if you are into fundamentals. I personally don't believe in fundamentals, but if you do, read dat shit, biaaatch

>>21422848
>Think and Grow Rich
terrible book. too much esoteric mysticism.

>The Richest Man in Babylon
great book. matter of fact if you come from a poor family it's a must read because chances are you never were taught how to handle money.

>>21422949
>terrible book. too much esoteric mysticism.
i didnt know telling stories about Henry Ford was esoteric mysticism
>he can't into self hypnosis
laughingasiangirls.jpeg

The Creature from Jekyll Island

>>21422892
ahh, i dont care anymore ... read this one and throw it away. throw youself aware. you will most likely end up happier. also the book is ancap af

>>21422758
This

>>21421140
KILLLLLL YOURSELFFFFF
MARX WAS A JEWISH FRAUD WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A FUCKING THING ABOUT THE WORLD, HE THOUGHT SOCIETY IS EVERYTHING AND WAS UNIRONICALLY A (((PROGRESSIVE))), HE ALSO NEVER WORKED A SINGLE DAMN DAY IN HIS FUCKING LIFE, FUCK THAT GUY

>>21416378
8/10

>>21423068
>i didnt know telling stories about Henry Ford was esoteric mysticism
telling stories about henry ford isnt, but talking about magic vibrations and pseudoscience sure is.

seriously though if you've read one self-help book you read them all and this one is just old and outdated. it's just not a good book. I am sorry. pic related on the other hand is great book despite being just as old.

>>21417691
Last days of Socrates > the republic. Plato was a pale imitation of his tutor

>>21415262
I dont read the White paper you expect me to read books?
I made 2 mi last year alone. Its all about being a Winner.

>>21423314
>Its all about being a Winner.

you reminded me of this book. the first two or three chapters is just taleb justifying why he's not worse than other traders who made more moneys.

though for anyone planning on reading any of nicholas talebs books: he's a terrible writer and certainly a narcissist but the things he writes about are certainly interesting and worth considering.

>>21422283
ancap would be nice if it wasnt infiltrated by jews, you will get fucked over so hard by usury and society will become decadent very quickly with such ethical relativism.... but there is another way

>>21423201
the richest men of all are mystics...

>>21423145
>hasnt read marx
>was told marx is bad
>believes marx is bad

ok

>>21423547
well you are kind of right (depending on what your personal goals are) but mystics in general are usually not very rich in worldly possessions.

>>21422335
Thanks Anon
Here is a link for any one else looking at these
https:// libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=FD91B1AB43D9CD643A11591C807A27E8

>>21424045
it's never your successful friends posting the marxist bullshit.

you know what?! here's what leftism really is: it's an excuse to not live up to your potential. politics in general are, but leftists usually are the biggest losers. you want to fuck over them evil capitalists? go be successful! you wanna fuck over them evil nazis? go be successful!! make the best out of you. you will find once you are successful that all that socialist revolutionary garbage you were spouting was holding you back. it's literally designed to do so.

>>21416378
Based
Books are for people who can't think for themselves

>>21424466
Successful leftists need to keep mouth shut because bitter ancaps target them.

But sure, continue to undermine your enemy, couldn't care less.

>>21424385
dude! thank you for sharing the link. much appreciated!

>>21424571
>Successful leftists need to keep mouth shut because bitter ancaps target them.

paranoid much?! ancaps aren't a thing. if you are afraid of ancaps you are a retard.

>>21416378
average speaking speed is 150wpm
fast reading speed is 450wpm
you are literally consuming 3times less information zoomer

>>21417221
This. Great read.

>>21416378
devilishly based