/biz/ - Business & Finance

"when" top kek

>>21329602
back 2 /pol/

>>21329698
Back to reddït lad

>>21329602
Well off. Nobody thinks those two will help the US economy better than Trump. People and institutions will look to uncorrelated and negatively correlated alternatives.

Trump is more uncertain for crypto. He might get rid of capital gains which is ridiculously bullish but he could also randomly decide to go authoritarian mode on crypto
Biden is literally just status quo which is lower risk lower reward

>>21329797
I think they will be much better the orange misogynistic bigot

>>21329602
Biden presents no risk, but Kamala could put a 10% crypto tax that goes to help “marginalized communities” or some stupid shit. Would give incentive to never sell though

>>21329818
This, Trump was better for traditional stocks but doesnt understand crypto

>>21329818
You dont have to worry about Biden, it's the people in his cabnet. Think about the nigger bitch from NY who got Binance banned from the state, chainlink wasnt even available there until recently (even after it was listed on coinbase it wasnt available for new yorkers to trade)

I live in a swing state in the south and so many people have Biden signs. Everyone calls Biden “Flo rida Joe” because he has our back.

>>21329889
Calm down, pussy.

>>21329997
what? literally why would someone write a law like that?

>>21329818
anon... the “status quo” of the past decades is what caused all of the problems the US now has, it’s not a good thing
for anybody

>>21330122
ok shareblue shill go back to pol nobody cares here

>>21330338
They are bad people.

it's fucked

With the slate of much more pressing issues and problems I seriously doubt crypto will be the subject of any discussion in this decade.

Changes to the capital gains tax, which would apply to capital assets like crypto, should be expected regardless of which party is in control, however, taxing these distributions would amount to a tax on savers and investors. Its just not going to happen.

>>21329602
They won't be elected. If they are.... privacy coins like LOKI will pump

>>21330444
But if you think about that for a minute- someone putting on a 100k day trade isn't investing. Its a tax on day trades and scales with capital.

Its maybe a tool to decrease the advantage of HFT, however. "Tank the market"? A joke

>>21329602
they're not going to win back the rust belt voters that hillary handed to trump.

>>21329889
Stop trying to fit in with white people man. It won't happen

>living in the USA

>>21330600
Privacy coins are another story though. I think they're going to be banned and the shitcoin market might get its clock cleaned (with half the coins declared securities)... but these will be actions by commissions that report to Congress- the CFTC and SEC- not the executive.

>>21329889
They really aren't, it's going to be Mondale vs Reagan 2.0. They are both extremely uninspiring. You're taxes are going to be jacked all the way up to the moon if they win.

0 because they won't.

Imagine losing to an 80 year old man and a nigger LMAO

Are you all forgetting that the Trump administration has made regulatory issues for crypto much worse?

>>21329889
They really aren't, it's going to be Mondale vs Reagan 2.0. They are both extremely uninspiring. Your taxes are going to be jacked all the way up to the moon if SOMEHOW they win.

>>21329602
Nobody here actually owns crypto fren, we just use it to troll nerds out of their money

>>21329889
Return to reddit.

>>21329602
they won't be on the ticket
no debates
incoming solar flare or some shit to sidetrack us
maybe 'ayys' or something
shit is so cringe

>>21329602
>biden and a uncle tom niggeress
top lel

>>21330963
>>21330849
Cope they will win. Biden is literally the best choice for president. His empathy, his compassion, his sense of duty to care for others is why I will be voting for him.

>>21331060
Not so fast chang.

She's indian

>>21329602
Do you want China to own us? TRUMP 2020

>>21331060
yes he has clearly demonstrated that over the past 40 years
like remember when he... sniffed children

>>21329602
You'll be fine. You have a choice between liberal capitalist and liberal capitalist.

>>21331060
Youre a faggot for not believing that Biden won't step down after 3months only for Harris to step in and fuck shit up with her regulation propositions. Compassion? My ass. This is fhe same dude who said if youre not voting for him, youre not black. As for Harris she's literally a fucking commie. Fuck off to where you came from faggot

>>21331219
people can learn
but he is most likely controlled opposition and they are all on the same team anyway

at the higher levels of the government they don't really care about crypto, the only one who cares is the IRS and SEC because they want a piece of the pie. bitcoin has been around for awhile and the two presidents who have presided in the age of bitcoin have barely talked about it. dont think obama mentioned bitcoin very much publically, trump only said he doesnt like it because it can compete with the US dollar and can be used for illicit purposes the same stuff all old people say. and i doubt trump has thought much about bitcoin, let alone ethereum or blockchain as a whole. ditto for biden and kamala.


there are groups that are pro-crypto that are working with the government to get good regulation and i think the one that works closest with government is the chamber of digital commerce so follow them for more detailed info on what the government is thinking about cryptos and blockchain.

>>21329602
Crypto will probably dump alongside stocks. Happens after every democratic presidential win.

>>21331179
She’s half nigger half poo. That’s such a shit combo no one has bothered to come up with an epithet for it because it’s completely unnecessary

>>21329997
>Bans trading of the one asset that'll help their citizens break out of poverty
>Taxes the ever living shit out them as well
>AOC halts a move that would've brought a LOT of jobs from Amazon, right before Corona Chan leaves half the state unemployed

New York. Not even once

>>21331367
Actually 25% black 25% white 50% indian

>>21331426
she's basically the walking, talking, living version of biz

>>21329698
everyone in 4chan is from pol. fuck off back to plebbit

>>21331383
I laughed my ass off when Amazon pulled out and Brooklynites acted like they "won." I guess that's mental illness for you

>>21331127
Can you imagine the sweatshop of Uighurs in Xinjian under the Iron rod of CCP and PLA paramilitary re-education camp authority, a room full of Lenovo Thinkpads running pirated copes of windows and photoshop, cutting and pasting the faces of American criminals onto the stolen credentials of others' private information hacked from US government and corporate servers?

Super fucked, thankfully it wont happen.

>>21331519
I'm from /jp/.
Go eat ass or whatever else you /pol/ reddit refugees do.

>>21331272
Unfortunately yes he probably is. Still voting for him though

>>21331519
This! We are only on biz to make it, piss on this clown world and fund good causes

>>21331808
>faes of American criminals onto the stolen credentials of others' private information
Yeah, I'm thinking they are harvesting the faces from zoomers on tik tok and making these fake ids. Which is probably why Trump wants to ban them.

These election related market activities are just pump and dumps by boomer brokers who are looking to sell the news. It's retarded because most of the practical effects of potential policies are still far in the future, so then everyone and their grandma start frontrunning all the plays. And you get a massive pump and dump. It's basically a self fufilling prophecy.

>>21329602
They will be too busy btfo gunfags to worty about crypto

>>21331994
I don’t think it’s the faces they need but personal information like the correct address, birth date, phone number, etc., associated with the correct name are what’s valuable. Devilishly sneaky

Probably nothing, it will most likely be Obama 2.0

>>21329602
>implying it will make a diference whos sitting in the chair
Bluepilled as fuck.
OP is a faggot.

>>21330735
Yeah they are, you just said it yourself. Those states flipped because of Hillary.
I’ve lived in one of the only genuinely conservative Midwest states (Indiana) my whole life and have spent a lot of time in our neighbor states of Michigan and Ohio, as well as Wisconsin. Ohio has a shot at staying red. Michigan and Wisconsin are Proto-Canadian faggots who LARP as hardline conservatives on /pol/ but are actually all Lutheran niggerlovers. Even the whites with semi-conservative social views vote Dem because daddy told them bedtime stories about how great Unions are and that you have to vote for whoever the union boss says to vote for. They didn’t want to vote trump, they just didn’t want to vote Hillary.
I will eat my hat if Wisconsin or Michigan stays red. Pennsylvania I can’t speak to.

>>21330444
Why would the rich ever let something like this pass?
I'm sure most would exit the country at that point or just spend more money to evade taxes
>>21330682
You don't understand how the markets work

>>21329602
These people are evil psychopaths

>>21330444
>>21330682
>>21329602
>>21331812
>>21332055

Well anons, I can't tell you for sure what Biden will do for crypto. It will likely be what Obama did. Nothing to damage the crypto market.

Trump on the other hand has plans to smother out crypto.

>>21331225
>>21331256
Why do you guys fall for obvious bait?

>implying I'm going to pay irs niggers money

>>21329602
>the polls that were all wrong in 2016 will be right this time
Political polling is a dead meme

>>21329602
Fuck them and fuck Trump. Death to amerikkka. BTC doesn't need a central bank

>>21329698
off yourself, street shitter

>>21329602
Good thing crypto is easily bought anywhere.
All anons really need to figure out how to do this without using a usa exchange.

>>21331060
>His empathy, his compassion, his sense of duty to care for others

>>21333422
The chance of it being wrong twice in a row is basically zero.

It really comes down to which highly flawed establishment goon you think is less repugnant. Do you vote for senile Obama 2.0? Or obviously inept Orange Obama who brags about his cognitive test scores during interviews?

Honestly, I'm voting Biden because Joe "nothing is going to fundamentally change" Biden is still somehow less of a wall-street puppet than Donald 'lI'll pass a payroll tax cut permanently (which funds social security) if I'm reelected" Trump. And watching the Trumpists melt down would be fun.

>>21331812
In wonder if that dog understands what it is doing with its face against balls and such

>>21329602
Buy guns ammo and PMs, move out of the city, and become familiar with anarcho tyranny. Chiraq is coming to you real soon if they win.

>>21330798
Fucking this. I'm out of here ASAP.

>>21330798
where else to then? I could maybe see Canada, Australia or New Zealand as feasible escapes

>>21330393
Jesus Christ, it's Jason Parser...

I just hope he makes masks a law. I'm sick of seeing people without masks

>>21333716
>The chance of it being wrong twice in a row is basically zero.
oh man i can't wait to see the reactions on election day

>>21330600
>>21329656
>>21330885
>>21333422
Imagine thinking anyone will vote for Trump after he murdered 165k+ Americans and wrecked the economy all while spewing hateful, racist, and sexist rhetoric. Not even the Russian hackers can save the orange cheeto this time.

>>21333505
good luck with what Trump is proposing

>>21334175

Your obviously false-flagging. Either that or you are one of those MSNBC people who decided to go full conspiracy theory just like the Fox news people. Why are middle-class people going so fucking insane?

>>21331699
They still put a facility in nyc without the $3 billion in tax breaks, that was a win

>>21334175
>muh Russia
it's not 2018 anymore duder

>>21329698
Pussy.

>>21333780
lol ok fag

>>21334175
>>>/v/eddit

>>21334412
>>21334668
>>21334792
Why are Drumpftards so fragile and delusional?

>>21334928
>>>/v/eddit
Go larp on another website. Nobody here is going to prevent your suicide on election night

>>21331318
Sergey went balls deep in Mrs Boring so linkies don't have to worry

>>21334983
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CRITICIZE DRUMPF NOT MY ORANGE BOI MY HECKIN RUSSIAN PUPPET TRUMPERINO

>>21334928

I'm very much NOT a trump fan, but Russia is largely an excuse by the DNC. The DNC somehow found a way to be so shit they lost to a 80IQ conman grifter, same goes for the RNC who lost to trump in the primaries.

However, the orange retard basically just did what Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnel told him to do, so in the end it's like we got stuck with a wacky Jeb Bush instead of the guy Trump ran as in the elections.

>>21334175
Talking points:

>2016: mysoginst cheetoh because he actually has an attractive wife (or three)
>2017: racist for restricting travel from actual hotbeds of ISIS terrorists
>2018: Russia proven to be conspiracy theories
>2019: all three because alone they amount to nothing
>2020: virus that he appointed a well respected doctor to head up
>2021: ?
>2022: ?
>2023: ?
>2024: ?

I can't wait to see the next season of this anime

>>21335110
>we got stuck with a wacky Jeb Bush instead of the guy Trump ran as in the elections.
This. The day he fired Bannon was the day his presidency ended.

>>21335141
>Russia proven to be conspiracy theories

>>21331219
>Unregulated crypto assets
Bullish for XRP

>>21329909
You might actually see people follow through with "I'll leave the US if X is elected" for the first time.

>>21330122
I live on the south too, I see many Biden sine we call it Dixie land joe becos we know he is bad for black super predeter

>>21334928
>he's pretending to believe a literal spook psyop

>>21335182
You realize Mueller's people had literal years to subpoena, investigate, dig, and report anything, right? That 90% of the CIA or NSA would have leaked any scrap of helpful information to his team, yes?

How do you not realize the entire delusion was Hillary's cope? That poor old woman couldn't mentally handle the fact that Trump outplayed her.

>>21335164
>The day he fired Bannon was the day
I also think firing Bannon was a mistake if you read Bob Woodwards book on Trump Fear that comes across. Even though Bannon is an outside the box controversial guy he is extremely capable and gets things done also is a master propagandist. Trump fired his Joseph Goebbels.

>>21335270
>You realize Mueller's people had literal years to subpoena, investigate, dig, and report anything, right? That 90% of the CIA or NSA would have leaked any scrap of helpful information to his team, yes?
They found the NRA had an russian agent funneling money
They learned Trump had was getting loans from Russian banks because they were the only ones dumb enough to loan him money
Russia also used their wikileaks pysop propaganda
Hillarly had a good start despite being unlikeable.
Not to mention how ALL the republicans were against Trump including Fox news until suddenly they started worshiping him. Did that not even come close to odd for you?

>>21330989
>posting Yuri Bezmenov

>>21329602
as far as I'm concerned, Biden threw out any chance of getting elected when he took that uppity mulatto as his running mate. They both represent the exact same neoliberal elite corporate interests, but it's easier for people not to see that with senile harmless-looking Uncle Joe. But Kamala is the platonic form of dindu with a chip on her shoulder against whites/men/etc. Definitely going to turn off the middle-of-the-road people.

>>21330444
>going all in 100k on TSLA
if you think this is okay in any way, you deserve being taxed $400 for your stupidity

>>21335307

Trump is a narcissist, he will never recognize or learn from his mistakes. Nobody would ever be able to convince him that the election win was 100% because of himself and just himself.

>>21335386
By that standard, China, Saudi Arabia, and Israel have "interfered" and invalidated the last five elections.

The votes were the votes, Trump won fair and square. I'm sorry but you guys will just have to grow up and get over it.

>>21335526

*wasn't, not was

>>21335500
Can't argue with digits like that. I don't get who Kamala is supposed to appeal to, as many democrats I know don't like her much. Sometimes I feel the DNC wants to lose, because it's easier to raise money from the side and not be under the spotlight like the president is.

>>21329997
What exactly were the specifics behind all those crypto-related "you can do XYZ unless you're in NY lmao get rekt" policies? Before that I've never even heard of individual states having specific laws on this sort of thing.

>>21335270
>the NSA or CIA would have leaked any scrap of helpful information

You really have no idea what the intelligence community is like lol.

>>21329602
Pure delusion and pipe dreams. Trump gets two more terms

>>21335551
>NO IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DID IT!

>>21335386
>>21335551
Like, here, if Hillary won and I told you an investigation objectively confirmed:
David Brock was taking French money.
The Clinton Foundation received a donation from BNP Paribas.
Le Monde published a scathing expose of Trump violating NYC building codes.
And ALL the Bernouts suddenly lined up and voted blue the moment the convention was over.

Would you flip your shit at the nefarious French conspiracy? Start calling Hillary Madame Napoleon? Demand her immediate resignation and and overturning of anything she does in office? Of course not. Because that would be insane.

>>21332775
PA is all about getting the rural, suburban base fired up enough to go vote. Trump being tough on China panders to all the union voters in western PA

>>21329602
If you’re not loaded to the gills with usa mso weed stocks, you’re a faggot

Protip: USA does not include Canada

>>21335724

What about that is a nefarious French conspiracy?

>>21335610
It really doesn't make any sense. But then again, neither does putting up Alzheimer Joe in the first place. Normal the bought-and-paid-for ultra-shill VP is saved for when there's a dark horse ""outsider"" candidate and they make a deal to have the establishment dude in there as VP. But Biden is already establishment as it gets. And Kamala isn't even from another "wing" of the democrats like with bernie or warren. Generally with VPs you pick someone more sensible and moderate because now you're trying to appeal to the general public rather than to more hardline primary voters.

the only possible explanation for Kamala is that they're so confident Biden will win that they're just using his assured victory as a lock to put whoever the hell they want into office, because we all know that Biden will croak within 6 months max after inauguration.

Trump hates crypto, he also put into law that crypto to crypto is taxable. You low iq poltards fail to understand that trump is already the worst thing for your portfolio

>>21335661
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Felt

>>21335693
Nah, it doesn't count because it doesn't meet the threshold for "foreign interference" you should expect in normal democratic proceedings for a global superpower.

>>21335803
None of it, that's my point. But if we really need an excuse for why Trump lost to that version of Hillary, we'd invest a ton of emotional energy in believing it. We'd *have* to think Hollande was out there pulling some invisible strings.

<1% fucked. They're neolibs.

>>21335858
You're a smoothbrain if you honestly think that ANY american politician wouldn't try to stop crypto from ruining america's place as world hegemon through use of the dollar. Nothing happened under obama because normalfags and boomers weren't paying attention at all to crypto until 2017.

The only actual difference between either side when it comes to crypto is the capital gains tax rate. Everything else regulation-wise is a wash because it'd be the same stuff lobbied by the same longnose tribe bankers regardless.

>>21335386
>Hillarly had a good start despite being unlikeable.
Anon you need to stop drinking the koolaid that the dems are drinking. Whatever polls and data they collected were bad. Mainstream media and academia literally has lost all credibility after 2016. I don't remember anyone in real life around me having a good actual opinion on Hillary but the general consensus was "doesn't matter Hillary was going to win." A lot of people didn't even vote because they were so sure she would win to.

>>21336020

Typically, her fans were uppleclass and middle class liberals. Lowerclass people who vote dem are either tuned out of politics most of the time, or are lefties/bernie bros.

>>21336020
to be fair though, the issue wasn't as simple as "they did bad polls". The problem stems from how polls are conducted, where they scale results based on what percentage of each party they think will show up at the polls, based on previous election data. The problem with this is that if you have a candidate like 2016 trump that had a message completely unlike the neoconservatives before, they can't use past voter turnout to accurately map that, but they did anyway because there was nothing else.

And as a result, the polls weren't inaccurate EVERYWHERE. They were inaccurate in specific areas where Trump's nationalist message resonated the most. In particular, the rust belt. In places like Nevada and Colorado, the polls were accurate.

for more info on this I'd highly recommend checking out Ryan Faulk's videos/articles on the 2016 election and "the monster vote". Faulk and Sean Last had the most accurate and data-driven predictions for that election.

>>21335526
>Hillary is a narcissist, she will never recognize or learn from her mistakes. Nobody would ever be able to convince her that the election loss wasn't 100% because of herself and just herself.

>>21334175
Imagine believing in "muh Russia" in 2020. Do a flip off a building faggot

>>21336441
muh 17 agencies lmao

>>21336426

Yeah, also true. Our fucking politicians, man.

>>21336287
I think a big problem is a lot of Trump voters aren't the type to do polls. From the data its clear the average Trump voter is a white working class person who didn't got to college.

That doesn't sound like the type of person who does political polling.

so americas going to go back to establishment politicians because "the other guy is worse"
this is going to blow up in their faces just like it did in 2016

Javier Bardem is a handsome man

>>21329602
Hmmm we let’s see

Cheeto fuck head will be removed from office
We will witness great strides in the prevention of police brutality against people of color
Racism will once again seem wrong
White Supremacists will go back to their shadows
The decriminalization of drugs
No more illegal seizure of undocumented people, and we won’t see concentration camps set up to separate families
Affordable healthcare and college

And again most importantly, small dick tiny hands spray on tan Botox comb over drumpf will be removed and cry on Twitter like he usually does.

*sigh*
Sounds so horrible to me guys!/s

>>21334175
Can we keep this shit contained to /pol/ for fucks sake? I know this is bait (and you're probably a leaf too) but holy shit we already have a million pajeet scam coin threads up at a time.

>>21336576
That doesn't actually matter. Sample different demographic sets separately and then scale them based on projected turnout based on past years. It causes issues, but not that particular one. Trump voters being less likely to respond to polls doesn't cause a skew like what you're describing. There are other issues, but that's not one.

And of course, this is all in regards to 2016. You know, back when everyone in the establishment thought there was no way he would win, so they didn't even entertain the possibility. Well obviously that's no longer the case, so this time they very well could be straight-up lying on polls and all that sort of thing to spread FUD. It's all up in the air.

Ignoring polls, I just don't even see how Biden could possibly win. He's not inspiring at all. But then again, lots of people came out in droves to vote for hilldog despite her being a massively unlikable cunt, so who knows.

>>21336705
We're just trying to determine who's the best pajeet to help our scamcoins moon

>>21336658
Do inmates get access to Twitter?

>>21335511
are you fucking retarded?

>>21334175
>orange ID.

>>21329889
So why do you people come here? I dont care much for us politics and im a us citizen. Generally prefer republicans but you dont see me bitching and moaning lile this for years just because a democrat or liberal got into office. Jeeez im a shut in and yet somehow you, likely a redditor who goes out and does weird stuff, cant do anything but focus on Trump and bitch and moan for 4 years. You people are the reason I consider registering to vote. You want to piss me off with your incessant whining? Okay I'll piss you off by voting for Trump out of spite. He wins? Congrats he's rent free i your head for another 4 years while the only time i hear your bitching and whining is when i happen to see your post and actually read it. Probably not even 5 minutes before i completely forget about this, probably more since i just said this. But hey on your end youll be fuming for months kek.

>>21335224
Ironic how the only ones who'd follow through on that are the ones who actually male money. Not the ones who seem to have noife outside of U.S. politics.

>>21334412
Mkultra 2: everything the American public beliefs is false boogaloo

>>21338241
Damn, you might be the most rattled person in this thread

>>21331519
I'm from /sp/ you fucking fag

>>21338354
Lol just showed up in the thread and saw that guy whining. Set me off imediately. Already forgot about it but you reminded me. Well gyess it did take less than 5 minutes to forget.

>>21334175
>muh Russia
Oh anon...

>>21329602
We are fine. Those are nice people. I thrust them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgpXjJ7pSkQ&feature=emb_logo

https://lbry.tv/@InVeritasTV.ENGLISH:f/WTF-Kamala,-your-demon-is-showing:6

>>21335270
>That 90% of the CIA or NSA would have leaked any scrap of helpful information to his team, yes?

First CIA and NSA do intel work on foreign threats. Its why the whole Snowden and FISA abuse shit was a big deal.

Second every employee that has stepped forward to report shady shit on Trump or staff that makes sure no waste, fraud, and abuse is going on has been fired, shuffled around, or removed entirely.

All administrations shit on whistle blowers so no point bringing them up.