/biz/ - Business & Finance

whoops, kinda fucked up the bullion dealers bit and previous thread but i panicked since there was no pmg thread and I need my metal marines

My blood pressure is down a bit today.

first for benis

First for Hitler was right

>>21313646
https://twitter.com/realwillmeade/status/1293606210520965127
Is he right? He's been right on other calls...

What are your physical and paper positions, /pmg/?

>>21313692
kek

>>21313646
I now have 120oz of silver and 5oz of gold.

>>21313777
He for sure called yesterdays bloodbath. I don't even know how to short though so I guess maybe sell and wait on the sidelines for a bit?

Unless I'm crazy, the mods literally deleted a post of mine in the last thread where I made a shoe distributor analogy with COMEX. I don't appear to be banned, but I'm surprised they found my post to be delete-worthy. I thought it made good sense.

>>21313677
it's okay, fren.

>>21313777
Why? What is the reason behind the decrease in the value of gold and silver? The fundamentals of our current economic situation have not changed.

>>21313777
If COMEX goes tits up, people will dump SLV fearing the cash settlement 17 months after silver goes to $500.

>>21313789
16oz silver, 1g of gold (just barely started stacking after discovering this bull market).
40 contracts of SLV calls $35 strike January 2021 expiry
25 contracts of MUX calls $2 strike January 2021 expiry

>>21313805
>anon ordered the one to play with
I hope you enjoy all your silver/gold and congrats on your stack

>>21313871
post shoe analogy again

>>21313904
I think that there are people that will continually scream about inflation and even doomsday scenarios, like a lot of these youtubers that get linked here. But, not everyone agrees with those scenarios. More likely it will play out that we have increased inflation but not a doomsday scenario, and after a while when the fears pass, gold and silver will tank like they did in 2011.

>>21313957
Thanks. Were you the anon last thread who told me to order one more for that purpose?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Onk2rFqIGOZe/

>>21313871
Weird, why would they do that? There wasn't anything bad about that post, it was a good analogy to the situation that COMEX will face soon.

>>21313995
But... i was promised USD collapse and silver moon

>>21313777

When you investigate these TA people you almost always find them to be frauds. David Brady is running his mouth on Twitter about getting yesterday's drop right, but he has been calling for gold to drop since it was $1670, and silver since it was $17; so what does it matter if they finally dropped from $2080 to $1880 and $29 to $25. He also shorted gold in late 2018 and missed the start of that bull market. Same case with respect to Gary Savage, who "called" this recent drop also, but held JNUG to the bottom in the 2016 collapse all the way to zero. Henrik Zeberg is another boaster about "calling" the recent drop, even though he has been calling for $700 gold for years.

I prefer to trust Peter Spina, Alasdair Macleod, James Turk, Andrew Maguire, and Craig Hemke. The people who rely on fundamentals and not meaningless lines on a chart. They have been far more right than wrong. Hemke, for example, called the silver breakout from $19 to $29 perfectly, as did James Turk; and that was on the basis of fundamentals, i. e. that J. P. Morgan would have to stop shorting or go bankrupt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOPKizJ_Y4 Nobody should be selling anything. Don't miss the next move up in metals and miners, which could come at any time. Nobody can predict what is going to happen in this bull market, but you are more likely to lose by trying to jump in and out than simply holding your nerve and staying still.

>>21313995
That's basic finance. There's some amount of apocalypse baked in, if the forecast ever looks less than collapsy then all but the most committed of that premium evaporates.

>>21314171
yeah, good point. just re-sharing here. he has made some good calls, and shit calls, but I honestly think he's not even a single person. No record of him working at Goldman, very elusive personality. Could be a group of market makers running that acct, IMO.

>>21313995
They won't tank like in 2011, too much money was just printed. We won't go back to good old normal with that kind of unemployment and debt. It's not because of the Pandemic Meme, but it sure has accelerated every bad scenario that we were warned about. It pays to be prepared, this isn't the gold bull run yet. It would be okay to cash out when it does x6 like in the last crisis, but we're nowhere near there yet.

>>21314025
heh yup
what amazes me is how quickly even the silver can get dinged up.
I like to spin mine on a table and I have dropped it a few times and you can see little dents on the edge.

>>21314111
>>21313965
>>21313871

>>21314153
I mean that may happen, but... I guess it's not super likely? We for sure will see inflation and it's going to get ugly, but, how much will that reflect in gold and silver prices? I donno.

>>21314268
I own physical but all this talk about needing to go back to a gold standard and stuff is likely horseshit. I mean these guys on youtube are absolute conspiracy loons. I'm still bullish on gold and silver but I think it will be much less dramatic than these guys saying 3000EOY and stuff.

>>21314282
Based, not gonna lie. Spot price is worthless to me since March, every dealer trades around $30 now, this is the new spot price and fuck COMEX for trying to tell us otherwise. I only hope that the Miners will join us and start demanding a fair payment for their ore.

>>21314282
Thank you anon for saving me the headache of retyping all that. kek

>>21314359
>t all this talk about needing to go back to a gold standard and stuff is likely horseshit
How so? The US is going to devalue the dollar the more it prints and what better way to restore faith than to launch a new electronic currency backed by gold and/or silver.
You merge the classic with the new tech and get everyone on board.

>>21314359
Yeah the greatest untold truth guy has literally said shit like "search your heart tap into your righteous holistic feminine side, you know silver is truth, it's holy money"

Paraphrase but still. DESU I own silver, but yeesh.

These pretty boys came today.
Just unpacked them and unironically my dick is getting
>ENGELHARD

>>21314525
link marines are the same. you need kind of an autistic variance of the population in any asset class to create a "community" around it.

>>21314459
Basically Credits from Star Wars, that would be neat.

>>21314525
That's pretty weird, fren. Gold and silver are God's money, but yeah....yeah

>>21313805
Nice tax faggot

>>21314591
I'd love to fuck my gf with a fistful of these.

>>21314459
Because we won't have to. People still will be using dollars, we have our boot on everyones throat anyways. The DXY is still high and isn't even tanking, other countries are printing as well.

I'm not an economist, I don't really know, but I will say I'm 34 years old and I lived as an adult through the financial crisis and the gold/silver bull run of that time and what was said was EXACTLY THE SAME. It doesn't pan out. Eventually the fear just kinda passed.

I don't think it's so much that the youtuber gold salesmen are wrong, eventually this might catch up to us. But being too early is the same as being wrong. A lot of these guys have been calling for collapse for over a decade. Now is their moment to shine, but, they are just another set of permabears.

I mean Schiff makes some good points, but he claims he predicted the housing crisis. No he didn't lol.

>>21314525
lol, I didn't see that one. I just see a bunch of guys sitting with cardboard logos behind them rambling about how we're going to collapse and doing market timing predictions. They are making money off advertising and, the gold salesmen, are making it off premiums.

>>21314701
sorry for the reddit spacing I was on the phone and kept getting interrupted.

>>21313805
I may have bought too soon depending on if there is another dip.

>>21314525
Kek peg yourself to a new silver standard...I agree he's definitely one of the more out there guys, but I still like him. Good motivation doesn't necessarily have to be 100 percent sane. And GSM has some really nice pieces.

>Muh Holy Relics XD

>>21314703
tell her they have antibacterial properties

>>21313995
>>21314701

This is false moderation. There is no possible escape from economic ruin this time. Gold dropped after 2011 because of 1) COMEX manipulation and 2) The Fed having a little ammunition left. They had 5% nominal yields to play with; they could prop up the system a little longer by doing Q. E. 1, 2, and 3, while lying that "eventually" they would normalize rates. Peter Schiff and others knew that that could never happen, but the Fed were able to fool the rest of the world. They can't fool it any more. Yields going to 3% in late 2018 crashed the market, and showed the world, once and for all, that Q. E. would be permanent and indefinite. Today, real yields are actually negative. This is forever. They can never go positive again, only more negative; because the economy is so leveraged, the debt so enormous, the budget so elaborate, that even a 1% yield on the ten-year would make it all come tumbling down. Negative real yields make treasuries undesirable to foreign investors, which means monetizing the debt, which means inflation, which means even deeper negative real yields, which means treasuries which are even more undesirable, ad infinitum, until the debt trap brings the whole system down.

Again, we know that the COMEX may go bankrupt as early as next month, so little physical metal is there to back the billions of paper contracts. And you also have to appreciate how bad the real economy is now. 40% real unemployment. You can never remedy that. Q. E. only makes things worse, because it prevents bad companies from going out of business and mal-investment from being cleared away. It diverts wealth into the hands of the few people who already own assets, and prevents anybody under the age of 40 from buying a house. Q. E. is the reason why the economy has been getting worse, year after year after year. Helicopter money will be indefinite from now on in order to prevent a revolution, and all that inflation will go straight into the real economy.

>>21314703
degenerates like you belong on a cross
the good lords silver shall be cleansed of your filth, once and for all

>>21314701
>I lived as an adult through the financial crisis and the gold/silver bull run of that time and what was said was EXACTLY THE SAME. It doesn't pan out. Eventually the fear just kinda passed.
You might want to look up the concept of normalcy bias because you are suffering from it.
All fiat goes to zero eventually. Maybe it happens this time maybe next time but it will happen.
Beyond that they are going to push for a digital currency sooner or later and when they do what better way to drive support for it than by backing it in gold/silver.
You could always remove that backing later like they did with the dollar but the use of the metals will give immediate legitimacy and weight to the digital currency.
Even if fiat does not fuck itself this time they may decide to get ahead of the eventual collapse and roll out an all digital or digital/pm hybrid system regardless .
China is already testing the digital RMB

>>21314700
This is why I only order from Scottsdale and First Majestic. The big bullion dealers charge me tax. These guys don't.

>>21314700
I made a 10oz order yesterday. Should have 23 total. I feel for anon...

>>21314428
I just went to the coin dealer today. They said they're refusing any purchases over 5k due to the shortage, they want as many smaller buyers getting metals as possible.

>>21314428
Checked anon, so glad someone else saved the damn post. Confirmed they deleted it, wonder why it's so threatening. Well, I guess I know why.

>>21314700
Jew York, anon.
I'll escape one day though.

>>21314701
We're reaching the end of the plank here. The Fed is going to YCC and no inflation target. That is absolutely going to cause steep negative rates.

Hemke says it concisely here. Don't look at DXY. Look at the 10Y and TIP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI2dvLmXJnU

>>21314843
This, you don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to see this collapse coming, it was brewing since 1980. Question is, is it going to be rapid, or will it take the next 15 years? One way or another, Fiat has ruined us and they might as well print all they want now, it doesn't matter anymore, kick the can and let the next President take the beating. I genuinely think Trump knows this and tried to do something, but they just united against him to buy more time for the (((Elite))) to secure the only real assets.
Also, funny how all the rich can get these attractive loans, but the middle-class is still cucked with a higher percentage. No way to chase them, they just cannibalize the entire Fiat System and buy more. Houses will fucking skyrocket, everyone will be renting.

>>21313802
and I have all 4

>>21315040
Real price is now called by the street, Comex spot is fake and gay. Can't wait for September.

>>21313995
Yeah just close out home ownership and anything but debt slavery for 99% of the population. I'm sure the civil unrest, riots, and continuing monetary deformities will decrease from here on out.

>>21314171
>David Brady is running his mouth on Twitter about getting yesterday's drop right, but he has been calling for gold to drop since it was $1670, and silver since it was $17
Even a permabear is right sometimes. Doesn't mean you should be taking advice from him.

>>21315135
>COMEX memed into 4chan 'fake and gay' history books

Double-kek

went to the bullion monday bought an oz,yday it tanked,i was hardly surprised.

stack slowly growing though

>>21314768
>Good motivation doesn't necessarily have to be 100 percent sane.
Absolutely.

>>21311725

This is the most retarded image I have ever seen. It's incredible there are people that believe in such delusional horseshit. There are so many brainlet contradictions in this image I don't know where to begin. 90% of /lit/ is filled with braindead sophists that have are good with words but have extremely low IQ otherwise. That's why there's so many commies/fascists/monarchists there.

>>21314843
>Gold dropped after 2011 because of 1) COMEX manipulation and 2) The Fed having a little ammunition left.
Yeah okay so when it drops in 2021 are you going to tell me it was because of manipulation again? I mean I listened to that one guys youtube video about how silver is getting manipulated and it's just a conspiracy theory about JP Morgan. It's laughable.

I'm a bull on PMs, been collecting them for years, but, I'm very concerned that people are coming to these threads and not seeing both sides of this. A good bull also knows the bear argument.

>>21314949
>Maybe it happens this time maybe next time but it will happen.
That's exactly my point. For the people here, being correct too early is the same as being wrong. That's what happened in 2011-12.

>>21315073
Ah yeah, that's the loon I was mentioning in the other response.

>>21315282
>trying to use an image from a previous thread to derail current discussion
filtered
on another, better, note post your stacks anons

>>21312526
>unfortunately you have to actually read the theory
What theory? Marxism?
lmao you people are dumb enough to think extremely interventionist governments are "capitalism" because you can't think outside of basic binaries.
kill yourself

>>21315324

If you can explain how the Fed can possibly get out of the current situation without either 1) Hyperinflating the currency or 2) Defaulting, then I am happy to hear it.

>>21315324
>I mean I listened to that one guys youtube video about how silver is getting manipulated and it's just a conspiracy theory about JP Morgan. It's laughable.
It's... openly not. Like, they all know that, but they also know they'll be killed if they try to get on their turf.

>>21315221
Looks great. I know silver is all the rage but I still think gold is the best bet for physical.

>>21315324
>Hemke
>loon
yeah ok, faggot.
https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2020/august/what-yield-curve-control

>>21315401
I have a feeling I recognize this retardation level, is that our SLV Shill by any chance?

Who ordered the dump

>>21314444
hot damn quads of truth

>>21314701
>but he claims he predicted the housing crisis. No he didn't lol.
He did though.

>>21314171
exactly, I take more seriously the many, MANY, people who called for a pull back in gold, simply due to the DUH factor of it rising so fast in a month, its bound to have a pull back due to profit taking and establishing a new floor.

>>21315519
yes nxn3QiKo is our resident shill from tel aviv
just filter his ass and post silver

>>21315324
>I mean I listened to that one guys youtube video about how silver is getting manipulated and it's just a conspiracy theory about JP Morgan. It's laughable.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-05/jpmorgan-s-role-in-metals-spoofing-is-under-u-s-criminal-probe

Anyone else smell that? Smells like pilpul.

>>21313777
Nigger, even I predicted that dump, I sold the top on Friday and bought the crabbing dips today.

>>21315367
I'm not trying to derail, I just didn't get a chance to respond. It's all good man.

Kek they deleted my superpower shoe analogy again. Will one of the mods kindly tell me what's wrong with it?

>>21315401
They'll increase QE and have inflation be higher for a while, keep interest rates low, poor people will get the ol' inflation tax, rich people will get richer, but the USA will move on and not default. There is no imminent default risk, sorry. We're going to have a fairly controlled inflation that will suck, probably will be worse than the last decade, but it's not a doomsday scenario.

>>21315476
so what? I'm supposed to buy into a conspiracy theorist that started his company with all the other charlatans in 2010 to sell people gold during a boom? With his little basement studio and cardboard background shilling his shitty gold business?

>>21314767
Yep, definitely bought too soon. Pity.

>>21315324
>conspiracy theory about JP Morgan

>>21314700

tax varies by state, you should look it up.

for example, in virginia, if the order is over 1OOO$, you pay no tax, but if it's under 1OOO you must pay tax

Got $1500 in calls for SLV expiring on 8/21, what do, anons? Do I sell now and take my $400 or wait and hope for the best?

>>21315555
checked,
actually it worries me the dip happened already, i wasn't expecting it to hit until the stock market crashes (well like 20%).
i wonder if this means when the stock market and crypto goes down silver and gold will spike again...

>>21315324
>I mean I listened to that one guys youtube video about how silver is getting manipulated and it's just a conspiracy theory about JP Morgan. It's laughable.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bloomberg-law-analysis/analysis-jpmorgan-rico-indictments-are-a-rare-bird

RICO indictments are laughable conspiracies? They are literally conspiracies....that's how the RICO statute is defined.

>>21315622
>They'll increase QE
Is the Fed not already at infinite QE?

>>21315522
Mods deleted it for the second time (out of the last thread as well). Thankfully some anon screenshot it and meme'd into existence as an image. I'm sure it'll pop up again at some point.

>>21315620
the fuck? why would someone delete that... you sure you're just not fucking with us anon

>>21315622
>links to St Louis Fed
>Bloomberg and CNBC has floated this out
>Powell says they saw a presentation on it in May
>he thinks it's a conspiracy
Now it's pretty obvious you are not a well intentioned actor but just here to spread fud.

>>21315525
He claimed there was a bubble constantly. He's a typical permabear. Yeah you can go back and find him saying that the economy was a bubble (not housing, but I'll give him that it is included in that). Eventually permabears are correct and then they tell you about the 2 times they were right of the 256 times they predicted collapse.

>>21315622

Sorry, that isn't going to work. To inflate the debt away you would need to push real yields down to -20%, -30%, or God knows what number. There wouldn't be a man alive who would buy a bond at that rate. You would have to print not merely tens of trillions, but hundreds of trillions. At what point is confidence in the dollar completely lost? Another point, how much larger do you think these asset-bubbles can possibly go? Stocks are already at the highest P. E. ratios in history, and houses are unaffordable to anybody under the age of 40.

>>21315770
100% not me deleting it. I'm just as blown away. What does the suppression tell us? Streisand effect incoming.

>>21315697
Wait and hope for the best, I’m in a similar boat. Anything you put into options be prepared to lose they are lottery tickets nothing more

>>21315620
What the fuck, why? There isn't a single racist word in there, not even antisemitic...

>>21315771
I guess we'll find out. I have metals. I think they are going to go up. But this whole "end of the USA fiat" bit is probably just a bunch of crap.

>>21315818
I'd post it again but I'll wait until the heat dies down. Don't really want to get banned on this mods watch.

>>21314701
We had two bear markets in gold and silver after nixon removed the gold standard. The first happened in 1980 to 2001. It ouccred becauase Paul Volcker increased rates to 20%. The second occurred from 2011 to today. The FED said they would increase interest rates but never actually did. The FED already announced that they won't increase interest rates until 2023, so we have a guaranteed bull market until then. When the FED doesn't increase interest rates after 2023, foreign creditors won't buy U.S Treasuries and keep interest rates down through inflation, causing gold and silver to go to infinite.

>>21315620
At least my Hitler was right is still on...

why wont we go up : (

>>21315877
BANNED FOR WHAT? IT'S NOT AGAINST ANY RULES
What the hell?!

I have two pieces of information: one good and one bad

The good one is:
I'm back

>>21314444
>>21315522
And even 4/4 in ID.

>>21315713
Love that pic. Silver really is pirate treasure, after all. The 'Piece of Eight' is the Spanish 8 Reales, and there's plenty of versions to be found on Numista.

>>21315820
Yeah, of course. I was aware of that, just didn't think SLV was gonna dip like this.

>>21315753
shoes aren't fungible, OBVIOUSLY SHOES COME IN DIFFERENT SIZES AND YOU CANT REHYPOTHECATE THEM 1000000 TIMES

>>21315753
That makes me feel scared. Need community and gunz

>>21315818
very odd anon, on a completely different subject you check out this pic of cool transformers movie...

>>21315901
WTF. Microsoft edge's autocorrect is broken.

>>21315803
Why would they inflate the whole debt away? I don't think they are attempting to do that. They'll chip away at it, hoping for growth in the meantime (which we'll probably get in another 5 years or so). Right now growth is stagnated and has been for years, so we're just inflating the stock market like you said. I for sure think the stock market is going to tank eventually, but I think it will take out all these miners and paper stocks with it. The housing will get worse, my house as appreciated 100 grand this year.

>>21315877

I suspect that there is a malicious actor who is reporting you for spam. They would be able to convince a naive mod to delete your posts.

>>21315794
He specifically predicting the housing bubble would crash. Not that the price of copper or beanie babies would crash. He was right and you're just coping.
He not only predicted the housing crash but what the fed would do in response.

>>21314444
Quads...how the fuck did it get deleted again?

>>21315622
This guy is Normalcy Bias: The Poster. He's not addressing any of the arguments with counter-arguments or facts, he's just dismissing them out of hand and literally saying "everything will continue as normal."

He's so deeply lost in his own bias there's no way to change his mind, but hopefully newfrens will see the arguments being made by people like >>21314843 and won't be blindsided like OP will be.

>>21315713
loving those batbois!

>>21316043
Marked for deth! Don't let your guard down.

>>21315913
I guess maybe I should continue strengthening my opsec? In fairness, I hop in periodically and am not surprised if someone doesn't like my info. I spent most of yesterday reddit-spacing the hell out of the thread with walls of intelligible text that I thought might have raised some eyebrows. At one point the shills came in force. If I worked at JPM I'd probably read this thread frequently too... not surprised.

>>21315992
I'm reading it again with a forced SJW mindset, still can't find anything racist.

>>21315992
whoa, the decepticons look so cool this time...

>>21315965
Me either, live and learn I guess. Got another week for a run up or maybe we are fucked

Am I gonna make it?
I don't know how much oz this is...
Its all 925 , the candle stick and shakers are weighted, so there's just a foil layer around some plaster.

The bowls and utensils are solid.

My favorites are the two bowls on the left, I want to clean them and put some snacks in them on a table

I’ve got some $7 and $8 FSM calls for 9/18. How do people feel about earnings on Thursday? Well the news or beat expectations and rise? Feel like holding both the contracts plus my shares since we just had a sizeable dip, but would like another set of eyes on it if possible

>>21315803
An interesting thing to note is the gold/crypto dump the other night was almost entirely correlated with the increase in treasury yields.

Since /biz/ is full of morons, this tells me the overnight dump the other day was institutional money moving some wealth back into the dollar.

>>21316154
The move was too big. It was a few things together. Yeilds being a major one. The second was likely covering shorts. This might be the big long.

>>21315984
Not gonna lie, I gave up that fear a long time ago. But it existed at one point. If not me, who will? I will be protected, I know this.

>>21316001

No matter how much inflation the bankers cause, at some point they have to reverse course and let yields go up. You can't just print money forever. If the consequences of twenty years of money-printing, from aftermath of the Dotcom Bubble to the present day, are 1) The highest P. E. ratios in history in stocks, 2) The greatest wealth disparity in history, 3) 40% real unemployment, and 4) Unaffordable house prices for anybody under the age of 40, what do you think the economy will look like after they print another ten trillion? Another twenty trillion? The more they print, the worse the aftermath will be when yields finally do go up, because everything has to crash from even greater height. But what you are not considering also is that the rest of the world will dump the dollar if inflation goes too high. It has already been dumping treasuries, and buying gold, since 2008. Why would anybody hold the dollar as a reserve currency if it is losing almost all its purchasing power to inflation? There would be a rush out of the dollar and into gold, and all those dollars would rush right back into America to chase goods and services. That would be hyperinflationary. And without having the dollar as the world reserve currency, America would be finished.

>>21316146
I just realized something. When the metal moons, imagine all these furious Karens who gave away their silver candle holders, pots and shit to some cousin. There will be a fucking army of people in front of every Pawn Shop trying to sell their Silverwares, 99% of them will be ofc silver plated :)

>>21316146
Depends on whether they are silver plate or sterling.

To clean:
Place a sheet of aluminum foil on the bottom of a container
Fill container with water
Add a bunch of baking soda
Place silver in solution, make sure it touches the aluminum foil

The tarnish will melt off without losing any silver in the process. DO NOT SCRUB

>>21315622
>They'll increase QE and have inflation be higher for a while, keep interest rates low
You think this is bearish for gold and silver?

>>21316230
I mean, anyone can listen to Schiff or Maloney. We're a watered down version of approximately the same info. I don't really get why anon would be targeted.

>>21316123
It is, though. It's antisemitic.

>>21316150
I’ve got FSM too and have this exact same question. Literally no clue

>>21315726
>infinite QE
That's literally the definition of YCC. No dollar cap. Whatever it takes to keep the yield curve below their target points. If it takes $20 Trillion, it takes $20 Trillion.

>>21316011
Makes sense. Thanks for the insight anon. So I guess we have JPM's ear now. Speak your minds anons...

>>21315962
>>21316103
thanks guys, i got another 30oz of silver since then, so i need to update the pic. might do that tonight if i get bored enough

>>21316303
>1 post by this ID
Oy vey

>>21315221
Anyone else not trust the 1 oz gold bars that are sealed in packaging?

I read a horror story of an old guy who would buy gold bars at the same lcs for decades, then one day his wife needed surgery so he tried to sell one, it ended up being fake, then he tried to sell the rest and they all ended up being fake. And the wife died.

There's even been reports of the fake bars getting mixed in with the big dealers..

For gold I actually prefer jewelry and issued coins becauae they're much harder to fake.

I'm willing to bet that at least one poster here unknowingly has a fake gold bar.
Ive seen 1:1 good quality fakes being sold on the dark web, the outside is real gold but it has a tungsten core so it very closesly mimics the legit weight and dimensions.
Not many people are willing to drill a hole through their sealed bars.

>>21315803
This is exactly how we dealt with the debt from Depression/WWII. Look at those real negative rates. That's the last time we had a debt to GDP this high and that's exactly what we did...inflate it down to a manageable level.

>>21316317
Epic meme

>>21316323
Please hire us. I work in insurance and would happily be a back office grunt that gets bonuses in shares. If not, please tank your stock to about $65 I want to buy.

>>21316339
Check again

>>21316358
If you have the capital, the cost of a SigMa Metalytics analyzer is less than the price of an ounce of gold.

>>21316358
I only buy sunshine mint bullion

>>21316358
I'd never buy gold that's not a legal tender, all my gold are from the Royal Mint, not a single person in the UK would have the balls to sell fake legal tenders. You can't weasel your way out of it just saying "I didn't know it's fake, it's just a golden-plated reproduction." because it's just illegal to reproduce her Majesty's Reptilian face.

>>21316232
we have literally too much debt and leverage to afford to let yield rates to ever go up again without crashing everything. we already saw them try this in 2018 and the market crashed for a bit and they drove rates back down. at some point they SHOULD have let rates go back up, but they cannot anymore and the powell has already said they arent even thinking about thinking about thinking about raising rates until at least 2022. you just dont get it

>>21315282
The enlightenment midwit is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a midwit, and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how suddenly he shrinks back: "I've been found out."

Complaining about anti-enlightenment ideas without actually knowing about them makes you the equivalent of that one guy on /jp/ who didn't understand the way his own language was structured.
>You can't learn Japanese!
>You don't even know English!

Have some cliff notes Girard, you won't like him.

>>21316279
Short run it will be bullish (hence why I'm here and a stacker), long term eventually people will realize it isn't the end of the world and then it will correct the metals back to reasonable pricing.

>>21316232
>No matter how much inflation the bankers cause, at some point they have to reverse course and let yields go up. You can't just print money forever. If the consequences of twenty years of money-printing, from aftermath of the Dotcom Bubble to the present day, are 1) The highest P. E. ratios in history in stocks, 2) The greatest wealth disparity in history, 3) 40% real unemployment, and 4) Unaffordable house prices for anybody under the age of 40,
Agree.

>what do you think the economy will look like after they print another ten trillion? Another twenty trillion? The more they print, the worse the aftermath will be when yields finally do go up, because everything has to crash from even greater height.
I bet they print another 2-3T, I don't see any circumstance with quantities of 10-20T being printed.

> But what you are not considering also is that the rest of the world will dump the dollar if inflation goes too high. It has already been dumping treasuries, and buying gold, since 2008. Why would anybody hold the dollar as a reserve currency if it is losing almost all its purchasing power to inflation? There would be a rush out of the dollar and into gold, and all those dollars would rush right back into America to chase goods and services. That would be hyperinflationary. And without having the dollar as the world reserve currency, America would be finished.
This is where you go hyperbolic and have watched too much YouTube. The dollar is still a global currency, used as a basically universal exchange currency for its stability. Yes it will get worse, but, Europe is printing money too - I'd say their banks are worse off than ours on a liabilities basis as well, as a side note.

>>21316210
>It was a few things together.

I agree with this. That drop was fucking historic, and definitely not just a few funds moving into bonds because the 10Y was up 0.06%.

>>21316394
Yep. And the depression sucked, but, we made it through and America was still intact. Actually it kinda set us up to be stronger.

>>21316394
How do I profit from this? Let's say they go down again, 1945 style.
I need answer, now. They will fucking do anything to keep the music going. This isn't out of the question.

>>21316394
That worked because the Great Depression was deflation though, correct?

>>21315992
Why would this be deleted? I don't get it

>>21316394
Our currency was still backed by gold and silver then, dingus.

>>21316408
>1 post by this ID
Someone's doing some fuckery here...

>>21316394

At that period in history, you didn't have

1) The greatest asset-bubbles in the history of man;

2) An economy which depends on the stock market going up to survive;

3) An economy which depends on the dollar's remaining the world reserve currency to survive;

4) A pure "fiat" currency, backed by no gold;

5) 40% real unemployment;

6) Almost no manufacturing, and an economy based on service-sector jobs;

7) A colossal socialist budget to pay for;

You were simply working off a one-time debt, and that was the end of it.

>>21316476
How'd you get the job at jpm? You need to exercise that macro 201 a bit harder. What's your compensation?

>>21316358
i only buy silver so i don't bother. but i would honestly suggest a real tester if your buying gold.
for me i use a little magnet and its good enough to tell me its actually silver (or atleast 90%+) but if your dropping 2k on a ounce of gold, spending a couple hundred bucks on a tester makes since to me
(pic related, my only gold)

>>21316476
>long term eventually people will realize it isn't the end of the world and then it will correct the metals back to reasonable pricing.
>with all the trillions printed, gold will go back to $2000
Someone castrate this Rabbi, I dread to imagine the world if he had an offspring.

For me bullion is boring.
I like cool antique stuff which has historic or useful value.

Here is a ruby amulet,
Some silver ore crystals
A sterling pen
An antique fountain pen with gold nib
And some decorative silver sugar spoon

>>21316107
Never have, never will. On a weird but semi-related note I received a mock package claiming to be from an Amazon Distribution Center in Las Vegas a bit ago. It was addressed to me but contained a CoverGirl makeup kit. Figured my wife ordered it but nope, nor her family or anyone we know. Still wouldn't explain why addressed to me.

Long story short, first instinct was "well do you want it babe" and caught myself. Threw the thing out. Then started researching the name "Hechen" who was apparent sender. No Amazon store, no CoverGirl relationship, no company in Nevada, then searched nationwide... no results.

While searching, found two eye opening tidbits. In Spanish context, hechen implies: them down, removed, take, go, turned. Hechen is also a town in China where all this virus stuff "supposedly" originated.

But no company named Hechen anywhere that I could find. And information brokering used to be my jam. I looked high and low.

If it's what I think it was, I give props to the attempt. I can see how some unsuspecting husband would just give it to his wife and she would succumb to some illness or radioactive isotopes. Not paranoid, just not stupid either.

>>21316358
That's why I prefer to dig my own gold out of the ground. That way I know it's real.

>>21316549
It's why the silver came out of the coinage 10 years later. Gold was only exchangeable by central banks and that stopped 20 years later. We were brrring then.

>>21316670
>Not paranoid, just not stupid either.
Wud da fugg. I'm uh... Not cut out for that shit. Oy fuckin vey. I'm also a stacklet, but damn

>>21316302
Used to pop into /pol and drop nuggets as well with insight maybe not as "well known" during key events. I can think of at least 3 reasons why they don't like me. :) But I'm sure they know who I am and don't really give a shit. Frankly, if they do, then they know the money behind me is just as powerful and my family does their own bidding. No larp just for those reading this sitting there thinking they ever back me into a corner. I have connections too, except mine are actually loyal to me.

>>21316636
>t. Silver Merchant

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>>21316512
Gold rallies track really well with real rates. Gold does fuck all while rates are high and goes gangbusters when rates are negative. The last gold bull run was where we had negative rates and the run in the 70s was mild too. Gold went from $100 to $800 in 3 years during the moderately negative rates in the 70s. In the 40s/50s gold was not freely traded in the US in dollars. It was a fixed price and illegal for Americans to hold outside certain contexts. So we didn't get to see what gold did during those very sharp negative rate years. But I have a feeling we will this time over the next few years. How am I planning to try to profit? Hold physical gold and miner stocks and hopefully society doesn't break down so that the inflation will eat my mortgage away for me. I'm sure smarter anons have better plans.

Soooo why the fuck were SILJ and PSLV doing okay all day and now they're dumping? How the fuck is any of this logical

>>21316358
yes!

it was a concern.

i actually traded it for a scooter and the guy i got it off had 6 more so chances are its probably fcuking fake but no true way to find out.

>>21316247
This has already happened, I think this was a 1970s thing of people selling their sterling silverware and coins after they went off the gold standard, most normies don't even know what silver is these days, many of these were purchased at garage and estate sales for a few bucks.


>>21316268
Of course they are all sterling, I have been doing this for a while now and have developed what they call an "eye" for PMs, I can identify gold and silver from looking at it quickly,
The only times this can be confused is with some really good silver plated wares or gold filled jewelry which has real gold on the outside layer.

I also have a acid testing kit which i use extensively, most things are stamped / marked though they are just hard to find sometimes

>>21316815
Ah, thanks for the follow up. I've only been stacking since 17 but accelerated this year on fed announcements regarding interest rates. It's been a hectic 2020. These threads make me feel better about my conclusions.

>>21316636
that's neat. I have some silverware, a belt and some dishes.

>>21316571
Interestingly, for all you wanting a gold standard.. Whatever its effects on the money supply in the United States, the gold standard unquestionably played a role in the spread of the Great Depression outside America. As the United States experienced declining output and deflation, it tended to run a trade surplus with other countries because Americans were buying fewer imported goods, while American exports were relatively cheap. Such imbalances gave rise to significant foreign gold outflows to the United States, which in turn threatened to devalue the currencies of the countries whose gold reserves had been depleted. Accordingly, foreign central banks attempted to counteract the trade imbalance by raising their interest rates, which had the effect of reducing output and prices and increasing unemployment in their countries. The resulting international economic decline, especially in Europe, was nearly as bad as that in the United States.

>>21316916
gold and silver took a big hit, mining stocks always take a bigger one. I don't think the dip in either are done yet.

>>21316971
Should I fucking sell mine then? Literally bought the top since everyone was gung ho on silver up until yesterday

>>21316571
None of that stops them from trying. They will do anything to keep the bubble inflating and that means YCC. Yeah, there are going to be some real consequences from it, but that's what is in the pipeline. We don't have to like it, but we should prepare for it. There are definitely going to be people who benefit from it and those who suffer. I'm trying to make sure I'm in with the former.

Also, the US manufacturing is denigrated too much. We actually have the capacity to produce quite a bit and if push came to shove, we could retool and get back on our feet. We are also a net exporter of food and energy, so we have the capacity get through this. However, it's going to suck for some far more than others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=767CbDajKu4
Starts in 15 min if anyone cares about Boomers who made it opinion.

>>21317001
No one knows the future, I think it will crab for a week and then starts to go up again when people realize that metals are indeed the hot shit for the next 20 years.

>>21317031
this will be a comfy watch

>>21316793
We're all human, all born of mothers. They're on no pedestal of mine. I'm a God-fearing man but have enough evil in me to think like evil men. Thankfully for the world, I recognized good always wins in the end. It did for me and I've just about seen it all.

>>21317001
If I knew what to do I'd tell you. I do think miners have room to grow, I can't tell you where the dips or heights are though. I'm holding mine because most of them I've owned for nearly a year so I want to get over that hump for tax reasons and I'm still overall bullish on them.

>>21316609
There are 1:1 silver oz fakes as well, seen them on the dark web, I don't think dealers check every single oz when they buy it from you.

but still much less common or worth the effort then gold.

>>21316923

Yeah imagine buying gold ozs off a random person like on Craigslist or offer up, best case scenario they would be stolen..

There was a local news story here a few years ago of some college kid being busted for selling fake gold ozs on Craigslist, what's funny is he was selling them for like 1/3 of spot price..

What kind of a moron would trust buying something like gold for this cheap, when it could be sold anywhere for full price if it was real..

>>21317031
>>21317124
they're making cash off the premiums while you take the risk ;)

>>21317175
Greed is a hell of a drug.

>>21317164
>>21317113
I guess I'll hold but instantly being down 10% on SILJ and PSLV fucking sucks so much. I know this isn't /smg/ but do any of you have suggestions as a hedge against this silver bullshit?

>>21317207
I'm not a Pinko Fag like you. People should make money from good ideas.

>>21317322
Bruh I bought GDX last year and was down 40% at one point. Now Im up 100%. You're an investor. Hold

>>21317175
stolen goods anon, gold has serial numbers, so i could see people buying the "stolen" gold just to melt it. then they find out its really like 1/100th of a ounce of gold lol

Should I buy now or will it dip

>>21317379
always buy now and keep buying, look at the price of silver eagles, its like 10 bucks over spot...

>>21316476
>long term eventually people will realize it isn't the end of the world and then it will correct the metals back to reasonable pricing
Define reasonable pricing.

>>21316824
What do you mean nigga
I'm not saying dont buy any bullion, just mentioning that there's some other cool stuff out there that has real world purpose and can be bought for the spot price.. I'm sure some pmg autist would enjoy having a sterling silver pen...

If you're a smoker then an antique sterling cigarette case would be kino.

Few years ago I actually sold a antique silver pendant that was a coke container with the lid having a little bump spoon, it was like 5 grams and I sold it for 200 bucks, now that's an opulent junkie

>>21317207
Funny how I can tell exactly who you are just by your style of typing.
Enjoyed the ban?

>>21316358
stuff like this scares the hell out of me, is there any foolproof simple way to tell?

>>21317379
Last major dip up till now was in March($1500). It rose to $1900 without significant downs before blowing past $2000 all the way to $2070. It's now crabing around the $1850 to $1950. That's the context.

>>21317426
I mean you have to be aware on /pmg/ the last general there were a bunch of crazy noses losing their minds about uncle Adolf.

They hide in the shadows..

>>21317514
bro i researched like crazy

further than some serious and often unreliable testing youre out of luck.

im so paranoid about my 1oz bar i might take to bullion to exchange for silver.

>>21317693
>bunch of crazy noses losing their minds about uncle Adolf
It was around two, with one anon consisting of most of the replies(around 25). Quite the chatterbox he was.

>>21317425
I don't have a crystal ball but I think we could go up to like 2500 or even 3000, then correct down to 1600 or so. I think that's reasonable anyways.

>>21317473
I'm not the paper-stock shill guy. I own a lot of physical. It's nice not having him around, hopefully his ban was a long one. I reported him like 100 times.

I still do believe that a lot of these gold bull youtubers have alternative motives. It's not like the crypto shills that are just bag holding, these guys actually make immediate money off sales like a commissioned stock broker would.

how do you guys feel Corona is gunna take off in the winter? if people can't follow basic rules now when everyone can be spread apart outside how do people think we're gunna do all cramped up inside.

Second wave incoming

>>21317803
How do I know that he isn't you?

>>21317514
Don't buy bottom of the barrel gold bars in plastic from some no name lcs for decades that can just close up shop.

>>21317854
It's not dangerous at all, but they won't let such a good crisis go to waste. Some sick boomers will die, sure, but the Media will ignte the panic to attack Trump. They'll blame the economic collapse on the virus and the Normies will buy it. We'll go to war with China eventually and the history books will forget to mention the Debt Trap that caused it all.

>>21317514
I'm sure there are a bunch of test kits and machines available that are (((Made in China))).

Where are all of these fake bars coming from, anyhow?

>>21317854
I'm interested in what will happen when school starts back up, although locally by me a lot of the schools are doing online instead. I just remember how often I got sick in the fall at school.

I wish I knew so I could profit from it.

>>21317514
The simpler the method the more prone it will be to counterfeiting.

Arguably the simplest is to only buy coins that have visible anti-counterfeit features, or are very difficult to counterfeit. 2016+ canadian maples are generally considered the best option for this. fakebullion.com has examples of known counterfeits, but is never going to be exhaustive. Very good fakes can defeat this test, but the newer the coins you buy the less likely you are going to be buying a fake (if you only buy 2020 for example).

The second simplest is to use a caliper measure plus a highly accurate scale to compare the actual dimensions/weight to the official specs. If the coins weights+dimensions don't match, then the metal content is probably not what it should be. You can also do a water-displacement volume measurement + weight to calculate the expected vs. actual mass. Very good fakes can defeat this test.

Acid test kits can be easily done at home, but fakes typically have pure metal cladding on the outside, so depending on the thickness of the cladding acid testing won't necessarily identify a fake. Very good fakes can defeat this test.

The other way is to buy an electronic testing scanner which measures the conductivity of the metal versus what it should be for different purities. As far as I am aware, fakes won't be able to defeat this test.

>>21317917
I was the anon who made the previous thread and screwed up placing the previous thread link. You think that retard would pick an awesome metal album worthy of /pmg/? No.

>>21317936
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fake-gold-not-ours-mint-says-1.4380705

>>21317514
If its sealed in the packaging and not blatantly magnetic then not really, buying from trusted sources lowers the risk, but like I said there was a fiasco a few years ago of fake bars being mixed into some batches from JM bullion.


If there bar is unpacked you can weigh it and measure the dimensions and compare the standard bar,

The best is the spectography machines that the dealers use which can analyze the inside.

Also gold acid test could pick out gold plated bars but not the 1:1 tungsten filled ones, tungsten very closely mimics the density of gold so that's why its used and its not magnetic.

I actually kind of cringe at the lazy boomers who just buy some sealed gold bar and refuse to open it to inspect it so they don't "lower the value", nigger the value is the metal nobody cares that a bullion oz has a scratch on it if it weighs the same.


Pic related is the first results on aliexpress,

I'm just saying to be careful with sealed bars, some even come with fully sealed hard plastic that arent meant to be opened, imo this helps fakers discourage people from inspecting the bars closely

>>21317803
>>21317693
Why do /pol/tards think /pmg/ would worship some dictator who would confiscate our gold and silver and force fiat on us?
Kill yourselves you bootlicking wastes of life lol

>>21317826
>$1600
>$100 dollar over March lows is reasonable

>>21318010
Manowar is pretty rad. Your alright Metalanon. I think he may have just entered the chat again lol

>>21318057
Hey crazy jew how r u

>>21317693
Tbh my dads actually racially Jewish, that side of the family doesn't practice judaism, my dad is super stingy and he's ironically all in on gold, Jews actually love gold, they're the original precious metal autists.

im just your fellow white ;)

>>21318135
>Hey crazy jew how r u
When you sperg out and call people dismantling your arguments a jew, you know you have lost.

>>21318057
It is ironic though, I used to be radicalized in my younger years,
But natsoc dudes love to hate on China when that's literally exactly how life would be like in a fascist country..

I just don't want the gov controlling everything in my life, liberty bitches!

If I buy assorted bars from silver gold bull are they in good condition or are they fucked

>>21318152
>im just your fellow white ;)

Impossible.

>>21318175
Everything I have said is correct and the truth

UK ebay is full of fakes, but they label it this way ib item description:
>Perth Mint 1oz Fine Gold Bar Comes in its own sealed packaging, a really nice piece to own, selling as layered gold and sold as such due to not being able to get the bars tested due to them being encapsulated in sealed packaging so please judge for your self and use the photos provided when placing a bid. Please only bid if you intend to buy and understand the above information provided, Returns not excepted Sent via royal mail insured Happy Bidding

>>21318135
Thank you anon.

>>21318263
>But natsoc dudes love to hate on China when that's literally exactly how life would be like in a fascist country..
It's true.
Neetsoc losers love china, they're basically all bugmen.

>>21318092
My average cost is 1065. The gold bull run has been going on for a while, 1600 drop was just a blip in March back down but I think we could level out around there. Maybe higher. Hopefully higher!

Some poor retard paid 130 for fake silver with no return policy.

>>21315622
>explain how it will happen
>it just won't breh

>>21318175
>that image
I love when he starts ranting about black people on his podcast, cracks me up every time.

>>21318029
>"replica"
That's great! The chinks are completely shameless.

>>21318027
We all know where they are coming from. The testers and bars are probably made by the same "people".

Reply dubs to this post and I will open one of my sealed 1oz gold bars and bend it in half to prove that it's real

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1oz-Silver-Bar-Collection-Piece/353165768286?hash=item523a51f65e%3Ag%3A4jMAAOSwqCZfLFCw&LH_Auction=1

Clearly fake bar, but people bid on it.

>>21318263
Agree. Natsoc is mostly appealing to some white men, because of all the sexism and racism against them. It's pretty understandable. But if you look at their other policies, you will find it's mostly just a strong military dictatorship with a mild form of central planning. It's pretty close to China actually in a way, where you are allowed to have your private company. But the state could take over at any moment, if they think your company is essential in any way. Also freedom of expression will be gone for good.

>>21318522
Please do.

>>21318410
It's kino.

>>21318552
This. It's usually the dumbest people that like to to follow instead of lead who become commies or fascists.

>>21318289
at 23 pounds I would buy for a decoy stash

>>21318317
Fuck china, and life wouldn't be like it is in china because they aren't Europeans.

>>21318289
man i hate chinese people. they ruin everything

>>21318405
Sorry, I don't mean to blow you off. Just busy at work today.

Gold prices tend to spike when there are serious economic, financial, and geopolitical risks in the global economy - obviously. During the global financial crisis, even the safety of bank deposits and government bonds was in doubt for some investors. If you worry about financial Armageddon, it is indeed metaphorically the time to stock your bunker with guns, ammunition, canned food, and gold bars. Like we are doing now.

But, even in that dire scenario, gold might be a poor investment. Indeed, at the peak of the global financial crisis in 2008 and 2009, gold prices fell sharply a few times. In an extreme credit crunch, leveraged purchases of gold cause forced sales, because any price correction triggers margin calls. As a result, gold can be very volatile - upward and downward - at the peak of a crisis.

Gold performs best when there is a risk of high inflation, as its popularity as a store of value increases. But, despite very aggressive monetary policy by many central banks - successive rounds of “quantitative easing” that doubled, or even tripled, the money supply in most advanced economies - global inflation is didn't rise to catastrophic levels. While base money was soaring, the velocity of money collapsed, with banks hoarding the liquidity in the form of excess reserves. Ongoing private and public debt deleveraging kept global demand growth below that of supply.

CONT'D

>>21318522
i bet you wont fag, even though its worth melt either way

>>21317031
Holy fuck Mike's said his gold to silver ratio that he stacks is at over 1 to 500.

>>21318263
Why do retards point to all sorts of other nations as to "how life would be in a fascist nation" except they never actually use Italy or Germany as examples?

Oh wait, they do this because Italy and Germany were paradises for Italians and Germans under fascist and National Socialist leadership so the entire antifa sentiment falls apart when examining the nations to actually tread that path instead of using communist China as an example.

>>21318735
Mikes been stacking for so long he probaly bought gold for $200 and silver for $3

>>21318522
ROLLING

>>21318657
see:
>>21318317

>tyrannical dictatorship shitholes only work if everyone is white lmao

>>21318405
>>21318690
So unlike other assets, gold does not provide any income. Whereas equities have dividends, bonds have coupons, and homes provide rents, gold is solely a play on capital appreciation. When the global economy began recovering, other assets - equities or even revived real estate - thus provide higher returns so people left gold. US and global equities have vastly outperformed gold since the sharp rise in gold prices in early 2009.

Gold prices rose sharply when real (inflation-adjusted) interest rates became increasingly negative after successive rounds of quantitative easing. The time to buy gold is when the real returns on cash and bonds are negative and falling. But the more positive outlook about the U.S. and the global economy implied that over time the Federal Reserve and other central banks will exit from quantitative easing and zero policy rates, which means that real rates would rise, rather than fall. They did a bit, but we kept them low and here we are now, but that doesn't mean the Fed can't just keep them low despite what people say here.

>>21318735
based

>>21318761
>Oh wait, they do this because Italy and Germany were paradises for Italians and Germans under fascist and National Socialist leadership
Food rationing, poverty, being forced into the military, no free speech were paradises?

Imagine thinking fascism is any different from any of the other socialist dictatorships in history. You people believe in magic.

How brainwashed are you?
You're going to call me a jew because you have no argument, watch.

>>21318522
lets do this

>>21318735
Based interview, one Boomer started farming at the age of 55, Mike is all in on silver, the other guy is all in on Metals, BTC and Mining Stocks.
They all agree hard times ahead, and we will all be prepared. We're all going to make it.

>>21318833
Oh shit.
At least use the worst looking one.

>>21318522
>>21318833
don't you do it!

>>21318833
Bam. Aight, posting soon

>>21318522
rollin

Could it stop going down

>>21318735
Crisis portfolio. Can't blame him. I think I need more silver now...I also need farming implements.

>>21319079
don't do it

>>21319079
YAMERO!!!

>>21318969
>Food rationing, poverty, being forced into the military, no free speech were paradises?
Because it was obviously Germany's fault that the Soviet Union had literal millions of bodies to throw around carelessly
while the United States was bailing said USSR out with about tens of billions of dollars, weaponry & vehicles, etc
while all the German supply lines are being bombed leaving large numbers of the POWs (and citizens alike) suffer and starve...
Try looking around the 1936-1940 range... You'll find that the anon is completely right and they were basically ideal societies.

>>21318969
>Food rationing, poverty, being forced into the military, no free speech
Are, are you completely insane? All nations did this in WW2. All of them.

>>21318838
see:
>>21318761

>comparing chinese to europeans

>>21319201
Retard, why don't you read for once in your life?

https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2015/Samuelsfascism.html
https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics
https://mises.org/library/nazi-economic-policy
https://mises.org/library/myth-nazi-capitalism

>Because it was obviously Germany's fault that the Soviet Union had literal millions of bodies to throw around carelessly
I'm talking about BEFORE THE WAR, dumbfuck

>>21319203
I'm obviously talking pre-war.

>>21318969
Someone has the screenshot with that post describing life in Germany before 1939? How the National Socialism was done right and people were proud of who they are?

Well, this one is real. Should I do the other one?

>>21319209
>the laws of economics magically change if everyone is white
>the violent nature of state power magically changes if everyone is white

What kind of retard would want to live in a dictatorship just because the leaders of the country are white? Does this make the horrible shit they are doing any better?
Retard.

>>21319289
nice, yes

>>21319289
he did it, he actually did it the mad man

>>21319287
The same brainlets that think Hitler's keynesian shithole was a success are the same type of brainlets that think the ussr was a paradise on earth.

>>21319339
>just the leaders
anon, you dont understand

https://tricities.craigslist.org/atq/d/elizabethton-90-silver-coin-collection/7176229026.html

Selling my junk silver for 1200 (42.40fv)

What y'all think

I could be wrong, but what does all the /pol talk have to do with pmg? I understand the economical correlation, but something tells me JPM has some keyboard warriors trying to shit up this thread to make everyone look bad. We're about to experience a million shady tactics (title of my new book) so not accusing but trying to be a little more aware of surroundings.

>>21319289
best /pmg/ in a while

>>21319289
Anon, we appreciate you keeping your word, but please. Don't do this just to impress some nerds on the internet. When you close /biz/ tonight, looking at your bent bars, you are going to feel silly.

>>21319281
1933-1939 Germany was peak civilization

>>21319289
You absolute mad man.

>>21319289
Hmmm looks fake, have you done a taste test?

>>21319401
You're extremely stupid I'm surprised you know how to breathe.
You aren't even responding to my arguments because you have nothing. Go move to north korea or china bootlicker.

>>21319289
Based

>>21319088
DO IT FOR TEH OSTRICHHHH

>>21319289
I'm going to have nightmares tonight...

>>21319460
>food rationing, poverty and a police state where creativity was stamped out was peak civilization
lmao AHAHAHAHAHA

Are they looking for new ways to justify massive levels of printing?

>>21317794
You are either shilling FUD or just dumb.

Specific gravity tests are easy and accurate. Any LCS will test your stuff for free if you are too dumb to do it yourself.

>>21316358

>>21319289
so actually im more curious in the authenticity of the RCM bars but anyway

>>21319492
go back to pol fagit

>>21319460
It sure was my man

>>21319642
I'm not from there, the neetsocs are.

>>21318761
This
>>21318969
You guys are looking at Nat soc Germany with rose tinted glasses,

>wow look how evil china is! The government controls every aspect of life, They oppress their people, there is a one party system and nobody has the freedom to say anything! All different opinions are stomped by the boot!


>Nazi gov does literally the same thing
>wow that is so based I wish it were me!

Do you guys honestly think that a website like 4chan would be allowed to exist in Nazi Germany??
Nat soc and freedom of speech are incompatible with eachother, if nazis decided to ban the word nigger you guys wouldn't be able to say it or get sent to the work camps ..


Anyways this is about PRECIOUS METALS, I do own some silver reichsmarks, also have a 1890s gold ruble.

Am comfy listening to peter Schiff while doing some chores

>>21319570
>all that money for the Joggers
Holy fuck, buy Nike and Apple shares if this goes through

>>21319636
gravity test,acid test?

im not fucking scientist faggot

>>21319662
>What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.

Sounds like literally EVERYTHING the current american government and federal reserve are doing except that everyone is white.
Stop romanticizing commie shitholes.

>>21319281
>Hurrdurr I'm wrong but it makes me mad so I'm gonna say I'm right and hurl insults at you instead
>Links articles from some Jewish online university
Hitler got Germany out of some of the worst hyperinflation the world has ever seen.
So before YOU spout bullshit like how he would "confiscate our gold and silver and force fiat on us" how about YOU do some fucking research and learn that much of the Reich currency was literal silver you stupid idiot.
Haven't you ever heard of how they tried to gather up all the Nazi gold/silver and destroy it??

They fucking loved physical metals.
They DIDN'T love interest rates.

>>21319723
>decided to ban the word nigger
>isint a reason to use it if there arent any

>>21319750
too dumb to weigh your gold twice?
too dumb to take it to LCS to have it tested?

A normal person would go "hmm if I have concerns, I can just get it tested in front of me at any local coin shop, no biggie"

A FUD shill just trys to sow more fear

Well, since nobody got dubs in response to >>21319289, I guess you guys will just have to wait for the next time to find out if the other bar is real or not.

>>21319289
Put me in the screencap

>>21318289
Shit that is fucked up..

"ummm it might be gold ;) YOUR RISK"

same as the fake rolexs they say "I dont know if its real, but it might be and you could get it for a good deal! ;)"

I should start selling mystery boxes on eBay with the "chance" for it to have a gold oz, but send them random shit and then have a family member buy the one that has the gold so its legit..

>>21318522
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>>21315656
CT does this as well

>>21319783
>>Hurrdurr I'm wrong but it makes me mad so I'm gonna say I'm right and hurl insults at you instead
Yeah, that's exactly what you're doing.

>Jewish online university
What? MISES?
Do you even know what thread you're in you stupid fuck? We love Mises here. Most of our understanding of economics and why we buy PMs is based on Mises's thinking.
Eat shit and go back to /pol/.

>YOU do some fucking research and learn that much of the Reich currency was literal silver you stupid idiot.
So? They still issued paper fiat which was inflated and confiscated physical.

>They fucking loved physical metals.
Then why did they confiscate them and force fiat on the population which was constantly inflated.
>They DIDN'T love interest rates.
LOL So you're admitting they artificially lowered interest rates, the SAME THING the fed is currently doing?
You have a commie child's tier understanding of economics. You believe all the same shit libtards do.

>>21316476
You realize that quite a few countries are doing everything they can to replace the dollar and they will succeed in the next two decades or so.

>>21319876
im not a normal person faggot

>gold/silver ratio + free test

>>21317566
Look at the long (last 100 years) price of gold vs inflation graphs. We are undoubtedly near a peak and will in all likelyhood drop back to around $1000 give or take.

>>21319544
>a police state where creativity was stamped out
German society was so far advanced beyond the rest of the world that the entire post-war order was copied from NatSoc Germany. Everything from the education system to rocketry were taken as part of the plunder. The only "creativity" that was stamped out was the perversion of kike sociologists creating all sorts of sexual nonsense.

The notion that Germany was some oppressive hellhole comparable to the USSR or communist China is literal fiction created for propaganda purposes.

>>21320003
/biz/ is a /pol/ colony

Next thread:

>>21320152
>>21320152
>>21320152
>>21320152

>>21320123
>1 post by this ID

>>21320012
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Certainly not going to invest in gold now for a payoff in two decades or maybe not even my lifetime.

>>21319289
Fucking Legend

>>21319079
Do the credit Suisse, the bigger companies are the most likely to be copied

Imagine if it actually ends up being fake.. Would make for an epic screencap

>>21318495
China controls a significant part of north america, and africa now anon.

Its getting bretty bad.

>>21319289
Yep, still an ounce of gold.

>>21319201
>>21319203
>>21319287
give me a break you guys, just look at this imagery and tell me this is normal:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JCABq4yIfbCr/

It's his best speech in my opinion. But common this doesn't look like a normal free country. This looks like your average communist shit hole.

>>21320123
>inflation
Which inflation? CPI? Inconsistent and therefore unusable. The 1980 cpi chart looks very different.
We're also betting on future inflation here.

>>21319289
THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN!!

Did you look on the inside?
Is 24k really this easily bended did you use your hands to bend?

Is Gold actually positioned to go down? It looks like it's going to go up for a few more months, especially after the second wave of Corona.

>>21320271
ah shit they cut out the best part. It's fucking hard to find those Hitler speeches these days. If anybody knows the full name of the first part, please share. I only know that it was his address to the Hitlerjugend, but the censorship is pretty hard these days.

>>21319909
Roll for double dubs

yes pls go down some more gold, I'm gonna accooooomolate

>>21320197
My gold has already paid off but whatever you say bruh

>>21320003
Okay? Just because this Mises is a legitimate economic source doesn't mean they know shit about Hitler lol especially when it is within their agenda to make him look as bad as possible.
I am a man who likes history, one who is sick of seeing one side being absolutely slandered and demonized for centuries.
There is a very clear distinction between National Socialism and Marxist Socialism. This was pretty much the entire premise of WW2 beginning. Stop being an absolute fucking retard.