/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21237821
Not reading your thesis pajeet

>>21237821
Upcoming Short-term Events
>Roadmap (just got released)
>Whitepaper v2
>Exchange listings
>Partnership announcements, hinting at ChainLink? check pic
>New team hires

Right now the volume is increasing, whales are getting in 20ETH at a time and the number of addresses is growing pretty fast. Currently 700 addresses, was only 400 yesterday. Short term I'm expecting this to 5x before going into consolidation whilst development is happening

Links
>Uniswap
uniswap.info/token/0xabe580e7ee158da464b51ee1a83ac0289622e6be
>Website
offshift.io/
>Coinmarketcap
coinmarketcap.com/currencies/offshift/
>Coingecko
coingecko.com/en/coins/offshift
>Whitepaper
offshift.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/OFFshift_Whitepaper_v3_July2020.pdf
>Telegram Official
t.me/OffshiftXFT
>Telegram Trading
t.me/OffShiftTrading
>Twitter
twitter.com/OffshiftXFT

Only 10 million XFT. This can easily hit 100mm in the short term given that it's scarce as fuck. I got a 10K sui

>>21237848
thanks for ruining my post order faggot

Was about to get my stack up to 10k at $1 today but something came up and when I checked back it was already $1.2.

At least it’s going up again and also what I can make with XFT is tiny compared to my STA stack.

>>21237963
>what I can make with XFT is tiny compared to my STA stack
Wrong. Xft is way more scarce and useful

>>21237897
current circulating is 1.75m and wont start going up until october :^)

>>21237897
it will take years to reach total supply

Investing in Johnny feels like investing in a vitalik or Sergey that nobody knows about

>yfw this becomes the XMR of deFi

>>21238539
I have never been this early in my entire life

This requires you to put a lot of faith in the devs doing what most people consider impossible. While I support people that try to achieve the impossible, it is hard to do if it means I could lose a lot of money if they fail.

Also, how will this work with ETH 2.0?

>>21238638
This is far from impossible. It's a couple weekends of coding if you're good

>>21237995
What I’m saying is that I cannot possibly have an XFT stack large enough for it to be worth more than my STA will be.

Currently XFT should be over $20 for that to happen and as STA is mooning that won’t be enough tomorrow.

>>21238741
understandable anon, STA is a solid coin long term, wouldn't sell your whole stack. If you do start to slowly take profit, should definitely siphon it into XFT

>>21238638
wasn't there already some success shown recently on a test net or something? ill try to find it, anon was posting about it earlier

>>21238539
>>21238558
>>21238824
I am seriously considering flipping my profits from all my other coins into this for the long haul
I'm not even fucking kidding, this could pay off big time

>>21238638
but it's not impossible anon, it's already working tech. They're just building the protocol to allow you to bridge into zkAssets with Offshift

>>21239039
yeah here anon
>github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/1724
Test transactions on zkDAI
>etherscan.io/address/0xc5c0b2e7a265c96d29ae1e4e70cd542dedc87aee

>>21239111
depends on your risk tolerance and what you're holding desu, would pay off big time if you're willing to wait. Short term it's really starting to gain a lot of traction, we're at 732 holders now and climbing fast

Dumped this shitcoin Trash Pajeeet shit

>>21239510
bye faggot

>>21239185
seriously, if this works it will be a DeFi flavored XMR

>>21239582
huge potential, hopefully biz hops on board before it takes off, could be our coin

>>21237821
shitcoin that never moves past 1.50 lmao. waste of eth to buy into. Get statera instead.

>>21239889
>never moves past 1.50
its brand new you shit head

>>21239889
>shitcoin that never moves past 1.50
it's only been there for a few hours anon, the absolute state

>>21239930
yet no one cares. other brand new coins are pumping and no one literally cares about this project. Youre welcome for the bump.

>>21239971
you clearly care an awful lot

>>21239930
>>21239954
pajeet shills on full damage control lmao

>>21240026
>pajeet shills on full damage control lmao

>>21240026
enjoy ur scam that wont make anyone any money. Peace. Also, stop spamming biz with your marketing.

Lmao what scam you pajjeet will stay poor forever if you don't buy projects like this :D

>>21240092
Keep the fud coming anon your tears are making me so wet

I just spoke to bogdanov and he approves. Buy this shit or go fucking necc in the street you poor pajeets

strong buyback today, will probably continue ripping in the coming weeks
why the fuck wouldn't it under these market conditions

Roadmap came out, oracles integration this quarter, major pump factor <3

>>21240254
>>21240305
>stop apu, here fresh meme

Im offshift-ing my funds in this project reading that roadmap! Make money like floyd!

this is the one senpai

>>21239510
Excuse me sir. What is this Pajeet you speak of?

Its fucking ez pz

WHAT THE FUCK THAT WAS

>>21240776
>>21241101
we're gonna make it anons

>>21241141

That was me no larp bros. I got myself an 11k XFT stack this is it for me. I didnt want to DCA in I think the train is leaving the station. Godspeed bros this feels like a gem.

>>21241141
OOOOOOOOOOO

>>21241176
damn bro r u smart? should i buy more?

>>21241215

Haha nah man I just jammed about 50 eth in and I didnt want to wait cuz I gotta work tomorrow and I cant keep watching charts praying for dip. I still have ETH on sidelines if we go back to $1 which could happen but Im no chartist.

You guys shilled the fuck out of this i dont know how the fuck i missed this at 50 cents but the roadmap is super bullish im in.

>>21241176
kek is this you anon? >>21240031

>>21241269

Fuck no im not a poorfag throwing in half eth lol

>>21241269

Sidenote hope i didnt buy the top. I feel like entry at these levels dont even fucking matter congrats on those who got in sub $1 this market cap is fucking insanely low.

My one true love

>>21241176

FUCKING... WAIT! NOOOOOOOOO NOT YET YOU'RE KILLING ME

>>21241364

They just dumped 19 eth kek. Sorry man I couldn't wait this feels like a ticking time bomb.

If this crashes to $1.20 in the morning I will load up more no worries.

Where can I check the price chart for this?

>>21241412

We will hold the line sir.

>>21241269
thats unironically me kek

>>21241529

Thanks man if it pumps im happy if it dumps i will just buy more over the coming days. Im happy with my stack if i cant add to it.

XMR Defi is getting my dick hard. This is fucking insane the implications this could go 50 million mcap pretty easy i think.

>>21241501
just use dextools

The second this breaks $2 it's going straight to $3

>>21241334
Got in at 55 cents with about 2k XFT, feels good to have a smol stack

>>21241548
based anon im the one who told you to buy. you'll be alright fren.

Suicide stack of 1k, never selling.

>>21241612

Absolute legend nice man. Did that roadmap get released today? Also how the fuck did you find this so early?

>>21241612
How did you hear about it that early

>>21241613
i only got 270

>>21241613
is it possible for this to be rugged? I put up my link for this

>>21241562
I wish I had the same mentality as you bro. Even losing money on 5 eth hurts for me as a poorfag. How are you so nonchalant about 50 eth?

>>21241564
Thanks. Is there way to view holders in real time? Dextools stuck at 99

>>21241637
>>21241660
>>21241660
Roadmap was today yeah.

I literally sit on Coingecko's 'Recently Added' all day (while I'm supposed to be wageslaving kek) and look into the newest listings.

>>21241613

How high can this realistically go?

>>21241727
Liquidity is locked for 90 days and will be relocked every quarter going forward
https://medium.com/@offshift/offshift-update-the-first-36-f3b35490b3a

>>21241727
Nah liquidity is locked. No way for them to dump.

>>21241744
>I literally sit on Coingecko's 'Recently Added' all day (while I'm supposed to be wageslaving kek) and look into the newest listings.

Nicely done man I am sure you sift through a lot of garbage.

So from what I understand is this the first project on eth using zksnarks aka xmr like privacy at the protocol layer?

>some guy just sold 16 ETH worth of XFT
Fellas! If you're gonna buy this, then wait until tomorrow morning.

>>21241739

Well im not rich by any means anon but in an altcoin bullrun you gotta take big swings or it will never pay off.

I have been burned more times than I can count but I know biz still has a few gems here and there and it would be nice to catch a 10x off something that isnt a shitcoin and this seems legit so far.

>>21241727
>>21241739

Website is professionally made, whitepaper is professionally made and outlines a concept that actually builds and improves on existing systems, it appears they have a marketing team setup on social media platforms... smells like technical expertise (someone who develops architectural code, big picture systems) and funding behind it. Is it worth risking a couple hundred or thousand for a shot at 1000x? You be the judge. Me personally, FUD won't touch me.

>>21241805
Basically. I think there's potential for something similar to happen with third-party development on REN, but there's no solid work on that, so XFT has first mover advantage.

Do you guys think it's chinks on Holo who are selling? They see the green bar and immediately sell. I don't think they've heard of the roadmap. Then again, the price of coins tend to drop whenever there is news.

>>21241880
>hundred or thousand for a shot at 1000x
how long you think?

>>21241946

Long enough for it to be painful.

>>21241748
I'd also like to know this.

>>21242033

LOL...hardest part about an altcoin bullrun is selling too early. I gotta do some deeper digging but so far everything checks out that this is a legit moonshot.

>>21241862
Bro I'm already almost 10x on this and this is just the begining. The fact I'm holding even though I'm alkready almost 10x says a lot.

>>21242070
My personal guess is it most likely hit $5 within the next month.
Past that who knows how high it can go. We'll have to look at the code that is being published in the next week or two.

>>21242423

Is it worth pumping this thing into pool liquidity for a couple weeks? Have never tried pooling.

>>21242514
wtf is pooling

>>21242423
$5 this week desu, a lot of traction is starting to pick up

>>21242368
>I'm already almost 10x on this
How? It is only up maybe 350% from ATL

>>21242886
Probably bought before Coingecko listing when it was just put on Uniswap

>>21242886
he got in at the presale I'm pretty sure. Never went that low on uniswap

>>21242948
>>21242953
Oh ok, makes sense

How can we tell that tokens are locked? Looking at the wallets, the majority of the tokens are held by a few wallets

This seems like a good project, but I am a bit worried since I don't know how to check to make sure tokens are actually vested

>>21243186
NVM, someone just answered in another thread

>>21242514
Not really, no benefit to it and you'd just suffer impermanent losses. Just hold the asset.

ORACLES PEOPLE!

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT COULD MEAN!

>>21243742
$30 for a single XFT token?

>>21243757
Ya I'll wait for initial dump. Not pissing blood for this.

>>21242886
It was listed at 0.20

>>21242886
Yes i got in on pre-sale

>>21244259

When was presale just curious...and was 15 eth cap?

>>21244500
Yes 15 eth was the limit. I believe presale was last week or two weeks ago

>>21243875
presaler's sold already, stay poor faggot

>>21238539
it's going to be the verge run of 2020.... everyone in this thread whose bought these levels is going to make it, so long as you don't sell early. verge went from quarter million market cap to 3.5B.....was the best run of 2017. XFT checks all the right boxes imo to capture a similar level of hype in the great golden defi bullmarket that's just warming up

Presalers are holding on tight, you can look at the contract address and see the top holders yourself. That's super lazy FUD.

>>21239111
imo, go heavy, but never all in on anything. all in is always a risk, but it also ties up your capital and keeps you from making gains elsewhere while your chosen project is slow to move. my strategy is to have a few long term projects that makes up most of my portfolio. when one pumps, sell a portion to move into another on of your holds that's due for a pump....when that pumps, sell and redistribute again. also good to keep a few eth on hand at all times to throw at shitcoin pnds. short term in and out type flips. good luck anon. I hope you make it.

>>21241748
realistically multi-billion if the team communicates well. last bullrun half the shit in the top 20 didn't even have working mainnets out yet and they were all multi-billion mcs. this is very possibly a top tier project imo

This isn't even close to what XHV did and you cucks keep refusing to buy

Get the fuck in or stay broke Anon

>>21246300
I'll wait until they lock the tokens. Right now they have like 90%+ of the supply and there is absolutely nothing keeping them from dumping this into oblivion. I like the project, and will buy as soon as it is safe to do so, even if it is at a slightly higher price. It is worth it to avoid getting rugged.

>>21246380

you must not understand how all this works very well.

>>21246594
Explain what I am missing. Look at the top wallets.

>>21238505
Yeah he's pretty based

Fuck watchin this thing go > $2 again without any. Jumped in.

>>21246380
kek yeah wait until then & buy in at $10

Tokens are already locked man.

>>21247036
Someone said that they haven't locked them yet, they were planning to tomorrow. Do you have a way to verify that the coins are locked?

>>21237821
This is literally a scam. Buy DMG.

these guys are going to pull the rug: no liquidity is locked so far, the team is completely anon, and the whitepaper is a joke with no specific technical details of how they will pull it. Don't fomo in anons.

>>21247036
Are you going to answer, or are you just saying that because it was told to you and you didn't actually check?

>>21245878
That's exactly what I am going to do. That's precisely what I wanted to do, but i didnt have enough total money invested to where I felt like I could evenly distribute my money across the board. I picked 4 projects I really liked, and put 40/20/20/20 into each of them. Naturally the one I put 40% into was the only one that didnt pump lol
I'm about even across the board now so I think your strategy makes a lot of sense.

>>21247515

you can view locked liquidity here.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x6e159c0084e60ab396a6298258b266d6e8ee5f10

>>21247515
Liquidity is locked. As far as the tokens allocated for staking, team, liquidity, etc, they are not locked but will be locked into contracts soon, per the team lead via telegram. I was worried when I saw what you saw and asked the same question specifically to the founder a few days ago.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x6e159c0084e60ab396a6298258b266d6e8ee5f10

liquidity lock contract is here

>>21247913
>>21247989
>>21247993
Thanks, but the liquidity wasn't what was concerning, it is pic related

>>21248206
That's exactly what I was referring to in my post
Those are the addresses holding the tokens for staking, development, marketing, team, liquidity, etc
They will be locked into contracts soon, per the founder via telegram
I asked him about it yesterday, see pic related

>>21248206
>>21248584
Who is JohnnyXFT, and how does he have so much money?

>>21248640
hes the lead dev

>>21248584
>They will be locked into contracts soon
That is my concern though, it could be a scam and they dump all of those wallets and walk away with an easy 2 million dollars

>>21248689
It very well could happen, and they'd only be able to sell however much liquidity is available on uniswap/hoo.
Judging by Johnny's demeanor in the telegram, he knows his stuff extremely well, and he will make a lot more money down the line as this project nears completion, along with the rest of us.

>>21248689

They could only extract as much liquidity as is available on uniswap. All the time spent marketing and setting this up the right way would essentially be wasted.

>>21248811
>>21249059
I don't think it is a scam, but I would rather not risk it since I would be buying with $1-2k

>>21247071
They already locked the liquidity, contract is up. I got in on pre-sale and I am def holding and aiming for a 100x at least.

>>21249119
I understand your point though. I think the contracts for the locked tokens will be up very soon. Wait until then It will still be a good point of entry I'm sure.

>>21249119
Your approach is very reasonable. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your thought process. The only thing is that often times the price is discounted because there are less certainties, such as liquidity wasn't locked immediately, the tokens for staking, marketing, ecosystem, liquidity, team, etc are not locked in contracts yet. The people who have bought in are either willing to risk it to be early, (and hence get a better price) or have done enough research to feel comfortable with the situation. I've been in the telegram for about a week now, have seen the team's response to pretty much every question that's been asked, and am very impressed.
tldr: you're right, it's a risk until the tokens are actually locked, but most often, with more certainty comes a likely higher price. i dont blame you for waiting, it means you won't lose any money in the event that it's an exit scam, but you might gain less when you eventually buy in.

Just hit ATH!! :D

>>21248811
>Judging by Johnny's demeanor in the telegram, he knows his stuff extremely well,
i legit read through the entire tg chat and dont see him talking about anything technical lol.

>>21248206
how do you view this data?

Pump it pajeet

Faggots want to be poor

Stay poor mfkrs

>>21250203
really? you must've skimmed too fast. he didn't get TOO technical, but he clearly knows his stuff well.
>how do you view this data?
it's on etherscan
https://etherscan.io/token/0xabe580e7ee158da464b51ee1a83ac0289622e6be#balances

>>21249515
>>21249332
Aren't the contracts already up?

>>21250463
liquidity has been locked but the tokens allocated for staking, development, marketing, ecosystem, team, etc have not yet been locked in contracts. will be done this week according to the lead tech.

>>21250373
cool so they haven’t been dumping so far, that’s a good sign i guess

>>21250639
Is this lead dev anonymous or no?

>>21250689
probably cause its a privacy coin like monero etc

>>21250749
Monero was a fucking fork
This kind of project should have a real dev
After all the scams of late, I'm done with anon devs + brand new projects without a working product

>>21250791
I know what you mean to be honest. I am also usually very hesitant about anon devs. But looking at the website, twitter, medium, whitepaper etc... I just get pro vibes rather than scam vibes. i might turn out to be completely wrong, only time will tell, but if i am then i can afford the loss. And if I'm not, well then this is a gem and a moonshot.

>>21250639
proof?

>>21251083
check my post anon >>21237821

liquidity is locked, teams tokens haven't been touched and the smart contract is currently being written to lock the tokens in a slow vesting plan. If they wanted to scam, they would have done so already by running with the raised money. They also limited the presale to 15 ETH per buyer, and decided to raise $250k because that's all they need. They could have raised a shit ton more, but they didn't need to. Says a lot about the team

>>21251004
>>21250791
>>21250689
it's completely fine to be skeptical about an anonymous team, I was the same. Just understand that they're building a privacy protocol on ethereum that will give anyone the access to hide their money/assets from prying eyes (((them))). It's no wonder they want to stay anon, especially at such an early stage of development

>>21251223
My sentiments exactly. I get good vibes from this team. I could be 100% wrong, of course.

>>21250373
the smart contract for liquidity lock is here:
>etherscan.io/address/0x6e159c0084e60ab396a6298258b266d6e8ee5f10

>>21251311
i just hope they don’t dump everything to zero like i see some scams doing currently with lot of liq then huge token dump

>>21251343
If you're paranoid, just sit on the sidelines and wait for them to release the token lock contracts. Should only be a few days now. Price might be a lot higher by then but at least you'll be able to sleep better knowing for certain they won't dump

>>21251343
Yeah that NEXE project just exit scammed. Wish I poked around a little more there so I could see what it was like before it happened
Like you said though, if XFT does something similar they're the worst scammers ever. Couldve made out with a ton more cash if they were less honest at this point.

>>21251343
Yep, as he said here >>21251424 you might pay a premium for waiting, but that's the name of the game unfortunately

Honestly, the most bullish thing about this project are the /biz/ threads. Hype is growing organically, takes are nuanced and not just pure hopium, the FUD is easily refuted.

Feeling like a comfy hold lads

>>21251633
From the very first threads before the coingecko listing, it had a very different feel. I think the project is attracting more of the audience that appreciates and comprehends the product/scope and not simply moon lambo types. The way they conduct business in the telegram helps as well.

>>21241739
In the fullness of time all things become profitable

Seems like it's holding pretty well at $2 today

>>21251974
$2 is going to be our support now, we should see a new ATH really soon

bought this at 1$ yesterday and sold quickly at 1.3$
i don't think it's worth risking money in anonymous projects
yesterday, NEXE and AUTEM got rug pulled