/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21237947
anon make sure you buy some fatty cuts of meat or youre going to have health problems
or buy liver and fry it in butter also pretty cheap

>>21237947
>>21228888
This you?
I dont understand why Fantom would suddenly explode. It has been around forever in my mind. I don't know much about it but I doubt it will catch a lot of hype, which is generally necessary for a x100.

>>21237947
If really do eat this every night, consider cooking your own beans instead of canned ones. You might get stomach cancer down the line.

>>21237947
Great mentality, gonna make it.

But instead of Fantom, buy CUR instead

>>21237991
oh shit. I havent been eating like this for too long and i do occasionally eat better stuff. Should i just put the meat in the beanrice to avoid getting fucked?

>>21237947
Good for you OP, actually taking responsibility and saving money instead of just complaining that the deck is stacked against you. Rice and beans is a staple. Dried beans are even cheaper if you are willing to take some extra steps to prep. If you ever get chicken breast on sale too it can get pretty cheap too, throw a couple of them in a crock pot with some taco seasoning, jar of salsa, and some beans and you get really good tacos for dirt cheap.

Pork shoulder is another very cheap meat that goes well in a crock pot

>>21237947
screencapped for the eventual 200x

sometimes I treat myself and have ground beef instead with rice. put an onion and garlic in there too, it’s pretty good. I’ll have to try all together one day; rice, beans, beef, onion, garlic.

>>21238098
not to mention the amount of methane you produce will greatly accelerate global warming

>>21237947
I allready 30x ed on yifi in 10 days and you are baghodling this shitcoin in 2 years for -3x
And andre mare fucking yifi
Thank you on your rice and beans sacrafice KEK

>>21237947
nothing wrong with that anon, I love rice and beans. Why would you waste money on food anyway when nutritious meals are so cheap

>>21238123
maybe dont eat beans on some days andjust have rice with meat, beans can cause health issues if you eat tons of them just looking out for you fren, treat yourself with eggs and bacon.

>>21237947
Rice are just indigestible flakes of plastic. You'd be better off fasting for 6 days a week and then treating yourself to dinner at a nice restaurant on Saturday. That's what I do. I don't consume anything but water and a few slices of bread until then.

>>21237947
THIS NIGGA EATIN BEANS
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>21238026
I dont really know. It's one of the original defi coins. I bought the hype about technical advisor Andre Cronje or whatever. It was one of the dominant meme coins on here last fall so i just said fuck it. I've had crypto since eth hit 170. I have sold multiple small (couple hundred bucks) bags of shitcoins too early and many of them went on to be worth alot.

>>21237947
You can be frugal without eating like this lol learn how to cook man. No vegetables, no meat... that shit is not even expensive

>>21238227
hey dicksucker.
Shill me some yield shit. I have like 1000 dollars i can use that I have saved.

>>21238455
Arent you allin on fantom, rice and beans op?

Stop cooking like a fucking simp retard. Cook the rice like a risotto with some dried bone broth. Add some hot peppers, tomato paste, fried onion and garlic, add cumin and paprika powder. Serve with cilantro and sprinkle over some lime juice. Learn how to cook idiot. You can eat like a king for literally nothing.

>that meal

Christ live a little OP.
Here are some ideas, courtesy of the (((Brothers Green))):

Breakfast: https://youtu.be/xtiY47WnONY
Lunch: https://youtu.be/93iL5cR2SEQ
Dinner: https://youtu.be/Hz4mQTo5Ph8

>>21238755
i have $1000 i can use for a good investment or a rainy day. And i have some more money coming in from doing odd jobs and selling random old shit.

I make about 100k USD and still do this, fren.

Embrace stoicism and the poverty-lifestyle. It builds character and strength.

I habe two quotes thay go through my head when i plan my meals and paltry $700/mo apartment life:

"Do today what others wont, do tomorrow what others can't", and Will Durants "Societies are born Stoic and die Epicurean". It applies to families as well, and I plan on having generational wealth.

Bitch pussy made nigga

>>21239232
>t. dies alone
lmfao

>>21238123
fat is all you need really the meat is a meme.
fat and carbs will sustain you forever.

>>21237947
Beans, lentils, onions, oil, can't go wrong

>>21237947
take the oatmeal pill anon

>>21239563

Dawg, what in the ever loving fuck is that

>>21238838
This. I do meal prep all the time, saving shit loads of money and it's better than fast food.

>>21238139
with that effort you could do chili con carne
it's 1 can of beans 1 can of corn 1 pack of tomato concentrate some onions and garlic braised a pound of ground pork meat fried salt and pepper and a cayenne pepper. that's all. well i like to put paprika and 30g of dark chocolate into it near the end too. let it boil 10 minutes then let it rest.

you get about 4 servings out of it eat it with fresh baguette.

>>21239629
The work of someone who lives like this
I traumatized /ck/ last year in an hilarious thread but they all commended my poverty mountain goblin lifestyle in the end

>>21238026
The PWA wallet is really simple for staking and is a sleek little platform. thats at least one thing I like about FTM that they didn't have before.

>>21239686
somehow i think it's kinda comfy in a way
and trolling /ck/ is always good

>>21239401
Married, with a poorfag pregnant wife.

Nice try though.

Dude, i’m gonna type as sober as possible, that honestly looks fucking pathetic and disgusting compared to my meal. and I’m being one hundred percent serious. Sorry we dont cook shit that was previously in cans. you’re a fucking joke dude, and im dead fucking serious. get a real family that cooks good food, drinks beer and wine and winecoolers and has a good fucking time, and has a million dollar house on the beach, im seriously.. dont ever post your fucking poverty dinner on these forums ever the fuck again bro, and by bro i mean never my bro, fucking faggot

>>21237947
Consider fasting everyday and just eating 1 big meal a day. Best bang for your buck desu.

Fasting improves cognitive ability and even improves resistance against colds and the flu. Also you would improve your meals if you buy chicken breast since it’s so cheap. Honestly monk mode is the best mode. Beans, rice, and veg; meat optional if you need it.

Take our advice and buy dry goods. Meals would come down to less than $2 if you do.

The absolute classic: rice + lentils purée
Add whatever vegetables and spices to the lentils, get yourself an instan pot/electric pressure cooker this will transmute your high fructose corn syrup diet

>>21239563
Looks good, traditional indian cusine?

>>21239736
exactly, i really wish the government would strip this niggas internet from him for posting beans and rice and telling us to buy a shitcoin with the $3 he saves every day. nigga finna get colon cancer at age 35 and be left holding some digital dust that he can hand down. please kill yourself OP, only rich niggas are allowed to post in this thread now

>>21239778
This board is literally all pajeets, isn’t it?

>>21237947
Growing up I used to eat rice and eggs (sunny side up) every day I'd pop the yolk and have it spread on the rice. It didn't taste half bad. Shit this brings back memories.

>>21237947
Cook dried beans instead. Cheaper and you won't be exposed to BPA from the lining inside of the cans.

>>21237991
OP don't listen to this, you don't need meat. Take a vitamin for shit like B12.

>>21238311
What health issues retard? Beans are like the healthiest shit on the planet. Bacon causes cancer.

>>21238332
This is also retarded.

OP don't listen to anyone else in this thread. There are probably keto retards in here since it's the current fad. The longest lived people in the world eat mostly carbs. Excess protein, especially animal protein from meat/eggs/dairy promotes cancer. Saturated fat and cholesterol causes heart disease. Get most of your calories from oats/rice/beans/lentils/potatoes like I do and you'll live long enough to reach the singularity and save a lot of money in the process.

Anon beans and rice is a meme. There are inexpensive options which taste much better. Buy whole chicken at costco (99c a lb.) Brine it, roast it, eat the legs and wings with rice. Use the remaining breast to make a curry or something (eat it with rice, only need to buy carrots and potatoes and cheap curry mix) by the end you've made like 5 meals out of a 5$ chicken. This is just a random example.

>>21240274
this
>>21237947
OP hit up /ck/ and up your cooking game

i have 100 pounds of rice, 20 bags of beans/lentils, fuckloads of ramen, and a fuckload of random canned food goods all in my closet.

i bought all of this because i thought cov would bring about big destruction

>>21237947
Eggs and sardines are relatively cheap and good for you too anon. Hope you make it bro

>>21238123
Get organ meat, cheaper than muscle meat and better nutrition. Amazing value for money; if you add some liver to that meal you could eat that healthily every day with no problems.

>>21239563
I can't tell if that picture was taken before or after eating that "food"

>>21240078
lmfao
a lot of digestive issues can be caused from them
plant based diets are medically contraindicated you fucking retard i see some of the best doctors in the world that specialize in nutrition and were literally principle scientists in a bunch of studies who were given multimillion dollar budgets to work with professional athletes to optimize their health and performance you couldnt afford to use them

if you buy cheap bacon with preservatives i guess but the risk then is still negligible way better chance of fucking your health up by being a vegan

Some cookies i baked yesterday to celebrate

Some of my cheap tasty meal recipes. I've calculated all of these to be less than $1/meal

>Jambahalfassed
Half-assed jambalaya, as the name implies. Make a pot of rice, mix in some tomato paste, meat (chicken, shrimp or sausage), Mrs. Dash Extra Spicy seasoning to taste.

>Shi
It's some kind of Russian soup. Boil water, mix in chopped cabbage. While that's boiling, slice up some potatoes and dump those in all at once. Fry onions and carrots in a pan and dump them into the pot. Optional: Make some pork meatballs and drop them in raw. Add salt and pepper at the end. You want lots of cabbage and potatoes, less onion and carrot.

>Pizza
First, go to the thrift store and buy a bread machine for like 4 dollars. Find a bread machine pizza dough recipe on the internet and follow it. Remember to add the yeast LAST. When the bread machine beeps, flatten the dough and put canned sauce, cheese and toppings on. Bake at 375 F for 20 minutes.

>Sweet potatoes
Like normal potatoes but cheaper and sweeter. Poke holes in the potatoes then bake them at 425 F for 45 minutes. Let them cool down a bit and eat them. If it's a special occasion, add sour cream.

>Pancakes
Very similar to the food that French queen was referring to when she said "Let them eat cake lol" upon hearing about the plebs who can't afford food. Who doesn't know how to make pancakes? Google it. Protip: Milk is optional.

>Local flora
Wherever you live, there are some edible plants out there so do some research on that. Where I live, wild grapes, tuna fruit, day lilies, cattails and palmetto hearts are free to anybody bold enough to reach out and grab them.

>>21237947
Chili baked potatoes and chili mac and cheese and chili rice tacos are my go to in survival mode. $2 meals every day all day. Also if you can find a big ham on sale ($.99/lb) you dice it up, fry the ham, add marinara and serve it over pasta. Poor man's Pancetta Marinara. Any other leftover ham you fry that up also and serve over a baked potato.

>>21237947
tried a new recipe

>>21238098
What would give him stomach cancer? Canned beans? Or canned anything?
I eat canned chicken breast from Costco like every day but I rinse that shit every time and mix it with ranch or bbq sauce. Looks like pulled pork and tastes great with Dave's bread as a sandwich

>>21239891
>>21239736

nice try you pink faced larping fucks. stay off my based thread

>>21237947
Good anon embrace the struggle. Become comfortable in it. For once you are, you will be unstoppable as you will be free from greed which trips up most people who have any level of financial success

>>21240709
Ribeye and baked potato, based classic

>>21240753
Regularly consuming canned, smoked and salted foods is associated with a higher risk of stomach cancer. That's why cases went down after refrigeration was invented. Doesn't mean you're gonna die if you have a can of chicken every now and then. It's all about risk.

>>21240709
show the cut!

>>21240896
Hmm interesting. Thanks for the info
I literally eat half a can of canned kirkland chicken breast every weekday day
Mite b fucked then
I also heard oatmeal/oat cereal might give you no hodgkins lymphoma or something due to glyphosate

>>21239232
based, mentioning Will Durant. join us over at /lit/ anon.

>>21240509
Why would I need multi million dollar doctors to tell me what to eat when the research has already been done for decades and keeps coming back with the same conclusions. Lets see all of those societies that eat lots of meat and live to be older than 100. People around the world are getting fatter and sicker. Another trend is people are getting wealthier, meat is getting cheaper, what was once a luxury is now being eaten regularly and societies that were once vegetarian out of necessity are now eating more meat and getting heart disease and cancers they never got before. Hmmm really makes ya think.

>>21239232
>Societies are born Stoic and die Epicurean
Am I misunderstanding this quote? Epicurus' form of hedonism literally entailed living a frugal life, drinking water and eating barely in some hut in the middle of nowhere.

>>21240485
Based af. I used to hate liver. But just ate it cause it so dense in nutrients. Fuck. now I'm salivating when I fry up some liver and onions. Fried heart. Tongue. I havent ventured into brains and kidneys lol I don't want mad cow. Also have an advantage I raise my own cows and guy down the street butchers them

>>21240078
What's considered excess protein?

>>21241069
more than 100g a day for an average person

>>21240382
Still a good buy. Covid is just starting off the big collapse, give it until half the US is homeless next month and the second Trump term sinks in for people to realize no help is coming, they either die cold and hungry or loot and start more auto zones.

>>21241140
I eat 1g per lb of bodyweight. Am I fucked or what
You anons are scaring me

If you live in the northern hemisphere its probably the case that there are more than a few ripe berries, plums, apples, & other food literally all around you that people have growing next to the sidewalk & they've totally ignored the fact and/or don't even realize it. Pic related is about 2 gallons of plums I picked up 1 block over where I live. I can currently harvest berries, plums, apples, pears, and the figs are coming in. I've got a route and a backpack and hit it in the AM or whenever, really. No one cares. Protip, don't disregard the fruit thats hit the ground already, some of those are the ripest/best. Also, if you're a megathrifty bizlet you can save a ton of seeds and start sowing your own future food next year.

>>21241267
I heard from someone else it's 1g per 1kg of lean bodymass, but might be bro science
ask /fit/

>>21241267
I literally only eat meat and dairy. never been healthier. carnivore is the way to go. dont listen to any retard who tells you differently. clean (think, pasture) meat will never hurt you.
also, don't eat beans. beans have souls

>>21241402
I guess I'm that retard. You're a fool and the carnie diet is just a meme

>>21241353
Its 0.6g/kg bodywieght. If you can't do the math, don't worry about it, its practically impossible to get not enough protein

>>21237947
dude if someone is spending 20$ a meal everyday, or orders takeout everyday, its basically a double digit iq person to me immediately and i talk to them about money since hes fuckin retarded.

cooking my own meals for 15 years, ordering takeout (pizza mainly because its painful and time consuming to make good one) couple of times a year.

staying moderately fit, while learning new receipes, how to cook different foods, is literally biz. not only you are spending way less, but you are learning a skill that can't be obtained with money. bitches love food. you eat good you feel good.

winning on all fronts. also eat some meat

>>21241631
i dont talk to them about money

>>21239563
Did you cook this in a cave?

>>21241728
Do not toy with my attention whoring

>>21241620
enjoy your cancer, oxalates, indigestible cellulose, gas, inflammation, brain fog, deteriorated joints, blood sugar spikes, low energy, and lower IQ.
well, that last one we already know you have ;)
SUCK MY HUGE-VEINED DICK YOU FUCKING AVOCADO-EATING FAGGOT

>>21239686
Is that bubble wrap?

>>21238026
That's the point. You don't want constant hype because it limits growth in the early stages. Bagholders are bad.

But now we are exiting accumulation phase and things are being shown to work so

I just eat like a normal person :^)

>>21241798
Literally a cult member

>>21241798
Are you the retard on /fit/ who was going off about how you should eat raw chicken?

god this makes me miss old biz frugal threads
i miss old biz

>>21237947

I eat this after work everyday with some greens. Saving every dollar and putting it into crypto and Gold and Silver Stocks.

>>21242304
wasn't me. I'll eat mid rare steaks and occasionally raw (plus raw eggs sometimes). but chicken and pork I cook normally.

>>21242479
no name i hear is legit
also, leaf

>>21241784
Do you turn the lights off on purpose when you take these pictures?

did you guys know that practically anyone can get free food at food banks, etc.? The selection is limited but usually quality isn't below a certain threshold

>>21241784
el creatura
god that almost looks photoshopped

>>21239894
same shit i was thinking lol, sanjay and krishna out here eating beans.

rotisserie chicken are free after 8pm usually. eat one a day if you wanna be frugal. drink water. pretty easy

>>21242596
>>21242640
I don't have lights downstairs, I don't fix the place I enjoy living as el creatura

>>21242778
Uh I think thats 'el creaturo' bruh

>>21242778
legit /x/ vibes from this

>>21242778
>actual basement dweller
>the quintessential 4channer
Fucking based.
>>21237947
Nigga u need to get you some corned beef and cabbage and cheap $2 bags of kale salad.
Im poor af too but balanced meals dog.

>>21243070
>kale
>rat poison super-accumulator
https://www.delish.com/food/a43162/kale-poison-thallium/

>Rice
>Ground beef
>black beans
>Switch veggies up between corn, broccoli and green beans
If you don't cover all your basis you'll end up getting sick. Also, drink almond milk. It has everything regular milk does without the pregnant cow hormones.

>>21243302
>carrageenan
>almond milk is the same as cow milk
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
are you fucking serious?
milk has every essential amino acid? what the fuck does your water and almond shit have? besides fucking FODMAP?
HAHAHAH you fucking retard

>>21243302
>>21243400
take the petty shit to fit and post more good cheap recipes

>>21243187
Brassicas can uptake not just thallium but cadmium and zinc. Its a real problem. In terms of thallium, perhaps it should be illegal to use it to kill rats (since they wander off and die somewhere and the Thallium goes into the food chain, where it can end up in other farm animals, hamburgers etc)

>>21243302
Almond milk is a complete and total ripoff, its like a few nuts and a gallon of water with a multivitamin tablet and some sugar

>>21240078
>Beans are like the healthiest shit
Brown rice with lean chicken > beans.

>>21243676
>Almond milk is a complete and total ripoff

not really, it's a lower calorie non-dairy substitute for milk. It's like saying stevia is a rip off because it has 0 calories unlike sugar

>>21243451
-rotisserie chickums. free or cheap in evenings
-trimmings of meat (the less attractive parts or the leftovers from cutting bacon slices. every bit as nutritious)
-whole raw chickens are much cheaper than cut breasts and stuff. easy to do in the oven
-pork is cheaper than beef. you can get smoked hams for much lower prices/pound than beef
-canned fish (like sardines) are easy to eat and very nutritious. also keep a long time
-get meat a day after expiration (or day of) for cheap price at supermarket. put in freezer or eat that day
-spam (it's the asshole, shoulder, joints, bones, etc of a pig, btw)
-organs. liver is suprisingly cheap. it's the most nutritious thing on the planet besides I guess fresh veal blood
-hot dogs. you can get the cheapo (spam-like) mystery meat ones with chicken and pork and beef mixed.
these are obviously low-quality choices but if you're being frugal (even occasionally) your body wont mind and it's healthier than eating vegetables and ramen and shit.
-eggs. self-explanatory
-whole milk, heavy whipping cream. both have high fat content so you'll get more for your buck. also good for you.
-amish butter. the big roll. very cheap.
If you really want carbs. just get some basmati rice I guess.
recipe? cook it if needed. save juices if present. add salt.

>>21237947
You will eat the bugs.

>>21237947
Why don’t you make fried rice with eggs and black beans?

You could also get some chicken on clearance and freeze it, make kabobs

>>21243800
based
i miss biz frugal threads so much anons
so much good info like this was in them

>>21239683
damn that sounds good as fuck on a toasted baguette
idk about the chocolate tho

>>21241001
They're getting fatter and sicker because they eat high carb and high fat at the same time. Do one or the other and you'll be fine. I personally feel like shit though on a high carb diet. On a low carb high fat diet, I only eat two meals a day. Homemade chili (1.5lbs ground beef, 1 can beef broth, .5 can tomato paste, 1 can diced tomatoes) usually for lunch and a smothered protein for dinner, usually fried pork chops or a braised chuck roast with a sauteed mushroom gravy w/ spinach or pickled beets on the side. I rarely think about food when I'm eating like this and I have zero cravings. If I do randomly get hungry between meals I'll eat some salami, sardines or cottage cheese.

>>21237947

I make 100k a year but I still eat like I'm in poverty because i want to buy more Link and poverty eating is actually very healthy.

> fruits
> vegetable
> occasional green leaf ruffage
> occasional inexpensive but lean cuts of meat or seafood
> nuts
> whole grain bread (sparingly)
> cheese (sparingly)

And I'm healthy AF

>>21242479

I like Ramen too, but man you should not eat it very often it is not healthy. You are better off eating an avocado on some whole grain bread

>>21243800
>hot dogs are healthy unlike vegetables

So this is the power of internet meme fad diets. it's cOnTraRiAn so it must be RIGHT!!!!!

>>21243800
>-spam (it's the asshole, shoulder, joints, bones, etc of a pig, btw)
It's actually mostly just pork shoulder. Much higher quality meat than it gets credit for.

>>21244148
I said those were low quality choices. it's for the frugal thread that we're on, duh.
hotdogs are unironically healthier than vegetables.
if you have the money, get grass fed beef cuts, though. fucking DUH

You're a fucking retard meat is not that expensive you stupid mother fucker go to Aldi or something Jesus fucking christ don't just gamble on some shitcoin. Here's a fucking idea why don't you learn to cook and get some protein in your fucking body, take that 1k and invest in yourself holy shit. Learn a fucking skill.

>>21244070
Might want to increase the animal fat in your diet there or you're going to have trouble regulating your hormones eventually. Chuck roast is dirt cheap and pot roast is generally pretty good.

>>21237947
beans and bread is better.
rice is nasty.

>>21244199
>Learn a fucking skill.
lol

Wagecuck linecook anon checking in
>be me poor af
>waiting on fantom to 100x
>waiting on rlc to finally break through
>praise Kek
At least I can finesse fine food to take home

>>21239563
>>21237947
>>21239778
You retards eating this fucking cancer have no idea how it literally destroys your body, gut and brain. No amount of making it is going to recoup that health and nutrition deficiency.

>>21243800
to add to this:
carnivore isnt just a meme. it's our natural state. we also would fast involuntarily between kills. this puts your body in ketosis and cellular autophagy. since were only talking frugality (it is good for you, though), consider this: you can easily do OMAD. that's one meal a day. you won't eat breakfast and be hungry again at 10am. that's what happens to carb eaters. they eat like fucking rabbits, always have to have a fucking snack. disgusting.
also, fasting is great for you and you can do it whenever you want. dont abuse it, but you can extend your meals throughout the week.
-cheap buffet. fill up on meat after meat. gorge yourself with a feast.
-fast 24 hours. some people do a few days. take it slow and dont overdo it. but you can skip a day easily.
-eat once a day
-eat carnivore
you will be more satiated with meats/fats. you will be healthier. your body will repair itself. you will spend way fucking less money. youll increase T levels tremendously. and youll literally increase cognitive abilities (hungry hunter instinct)

>>21241272
Florida man here. I have 8 blueberry bushes, 4 blackberry bushes, 2 orange trees, 1 pear tree, 1 lemon tree, and 1 grapefruit tree. Shit is cash. Also grow sweet potatoes and tomatoes. God bless the sunshine state.

>>21242778
actual meme.
based af

>>21241001
You're fucking retarded but it's no suprise given what you are shilling here

>>21244348
>eating anything but meat, offal, butter, eggs
Disgusting

>>21244322
Based. Wagie waitering in a restaurant, anytime a table sends shit back or they leave half the food, slide that shit into a take home container and stuff it in my bag when manager/boss isnt looking.

What could it be

>>21240078
Keto vs Vegan.

drain the beans first you fucking idiot

>>21237947
Are you by chance South American?

>>21237947
I don't skimp on food but 20$ a meal is ludicrous. A family pack of pork chops is 6-7$ and a dry 15 bean soup mix is 1-2$ a bag. Combine those in a crock pot and you got like 10 servings of a tasty and nutritious stew. I go a step further and portion out, foodsaver and freeze my recipes. Freezer is full of frozen soups, stews and chilis that will last up to 6 months. Go full circle and get a big pot and a cheap latch on sous vide system to defrost/cook stuff and you can eat quite well for a 2-300$ upfront investment.

>>21239563
Currently on the shitter and this looks identical

>>21244322
>>21244509
I'm a cook slave as well. At least only for 12 more days. I'm done with that life. We're all gonna make it bros.

i had a lump crab cake with a sunny side up egg for breakfast today, tomorrow i will have some smoked salmon on avocado toast along with some fresh fruit.

>>21240078
>OP don't listen to this, you don't need meat. Take a vitamin for shit like B12.
Don't ever speak again especially in matters of nutrition fucktard.

OP if you listen to this dipshit you deserve the anemic attributes that come with it. A small amount of animal protein per day is all you need. This can come in many forms as many are sharing with you now. You should also increase your green vegetable intake.

Break down your shopping into protein (pb, eggs, meats, fish), carbs (pasta, bread), veg, herbs/spices, and grocery (soap etc). Then bookmark the ad pages of every store within range. Every week pop open the ads and see what the sales are. Over time you will get a sense of the real price of foods and what is a deal to spend on.

Some tips:

>Buy in bulk at the lowest price then shop for smaller amounts as you go
>find the discount aisles in each store you visit, they all have at least one area
>Immigrant markets are your FRIEND. Find where they are and get their ads.
>You can buy some food and toiletries online cheaper, and at higher quality (e.g., bulk bags of good rice, paper, etc)
>If you have the room freeze your on-sale protein and get your veg fresh
>Potatoes, onions, and carrots sell dirt cheap in bulk bags. Learn to cook with these.
>Rice is a staple and there are a thousand ways to eat it
>Learn recipes that stretch out proteins with vegetables, rice, and pastas
>search for deals on herbs and spices like a thirsty simp and over a long period of time you will build a formidable spice collection
>Buddy up with the deli and butcher personnel and they will hook you up

Ok lads, this thread is what I needed. I'm planning to go keto and want to maintain a low budget.
Breakfast (only meal that requires daily cooking)
-scrambled egg with mushrooms spinach and bacon

Lunch
-Ground beef fried in butter + cheese
-blueberries/raspberries

Dinner
-Canned mackerel/deenz
-nuts

*extras: 1-2 scoops protein shake for when I decide to start lifting again amd need to bulk.

I still have to add some more fats to hit my calorie intake.

>>21244858
Wow, your arguments have really convinced me to start eating a small amount of meat. Thanks retard.

>>21244895
>spices
Sam's Club has massive spice containers for cheap. $6 for all the paprika you'll ever use. If you have a friend or parent with a membership, just tag along with them, or see if you can borrow their login for the app.
>herbs
These are basically weeds. Easiest thing in the world to grow. Even if you're in an apartment, you can grow herbs in a window planter box. They're better fresh than dried, too.

oatmeal with cheap ass protein powder mixed with water or milk (depending on how rich I am) is a great meal, remember its cheaper to buy plain whey and just add cocoa powder or whatever other flavor you like

>>21244835
Shit, congratulations bro. I hope to finally be free, if even for a few years at least in the next year or so should any of my coinstack moon.
Enjoy the good life man.

>>21245038
Why would anyone bother taking you seriously when you are so dismissive of something that you have clearly no informed knowledge on? You are shitting on eating meat with momscience-tier arguments and started screeching and talking about ketards coming itt as if you are scared of them. If you make such outlandish claims about veganism be ready to face similar arguments from the other side.
If were promoting a balanced diet ona budget people would not call out your retardation. Shut the fuck up and the game changers was a very long ad for the producers company.

>>21237947
this doesn't look bad, I love rice & beans, more than meat some times

>>21237947
Dude the deck is not stacked against you. you're a fucking gambler and you have a problem. stop putting every dime into this shit and buy yourself a steak. Learn to cook it with all the time you spend hitting refresh.give yourself a break. you are fucking all the way up and you'll never make it like this.

>>21245201
>be ready to face similar arguments from the other side.

But Anon, you didn't make a single one.

>>21245038
>spend your money to take a chelated mineral in place of whole foods
I didn't say I wanted to debate you I said shut the fuck up. You're not worth my time with your stupid advice. Seriously, fuck off.

>>21245258
dont listen to this faggot. keep doing what youre doing. stoicism and investing in crypto

>>21245295
>faggot veggie soiboi
fuck off back reddit.

>>21245295
>>21237947

Listen to us both. Stop buying, NUT THE UCK UP AND HODL, and figure out how to glean good information from a web of anonymous bullshit. No fact checkers here, faggo. Now take an iron pill you dipshit.

>>21240709
Bro those grill lines are driving me insane. You’re steak looks like a fucking fool.

>>21245324
>incomplete proteins

Imagine falling for this tired old meme.

>>21245295
Because I am not a zealot and you do not come off as someone willing to take criticism of his dietary choices.
I, for instance, want to try keto as per my earlier post but I have limited knowledge compared to others who visit this board in order to shit on you with any sort of argument. The anecdotal evidence I can provide from my personal experience also mean nothing but for argument's sake I'll say that -again- for me, high carb diets are not good to me since I stopped lifting.
It is also an established fact that meats and dairy are more nutrient rich and satiating than many vegetables as well as more satiating.
I made my first post to ask anon to rate my plan or make additions to it but as far as OP goes I would tell him to have a balanced diet with meats and vegetables.

>>21239686
Tell me more. What's your average day like? Why do you live like this? What part of the world do you live in?

>>21244384 That's awesome. So many things you can do with all that fruit. Berry and pear preserves, orange marmalade. Plus you have the ocean and swamp for protein should shit go down.

>>21245511
imagine having content like pic related indexed for your nutritional beliefs

Throw some ground beef in it. Get some pico de gallo and tortillas. You got some gourmet shit.

This is the shit I buy to have around as like emergency food but if I was ever in a situation where I needed to spend as little as possible I would get the same shit.

>sardines
>rice
>beans
>pickled eggs (make them yourself)
>tuna
>jerky
>ramen
>pasta

Everything last and is relatively cheap.

>>21245636
It's from cronometer I literally just entered black beans and grabbed a screen shot.

>how not to become anemic on a vegan diet
Step 1: don't be a retard and it won't be hard at all.

>slow cook a whole package of chicken breast (like 4lb or so)
>shred chicken
>mix with whole bag of cheese
>get some tortillas
>quesadillas for almost week
Chili is budget and last a while
Tuna patties are pretty good
Quiche
Breakfast for dinner
Hash
Slow cooked and shredded pork with some bbq and buns
Save all your broth from slow cooked meat for other meals.

>>21241001
what research? most doctors will put you on statins and tell you to eat mostly carbs with lean meat, theres no evidence meat causes pathology of any kind, my doctor also says the lipid hypothesis fails on all of its postulates, any in places like hong kong where they eat more meat than americans they have less disease, its obviously hydrogenated oil products and daily sugar consumption. ancel keys 7 country study actually suggests this as well since you can get the exact same results for increased consumption of margerine.
also bluezone diets are a myth, literally live in sumida vegans misrepresent okinawan diet and try to suggest a post-war famine diet was their traditional fare, vegans are absolutely retarded, plant based diets are literally for slaves.

I spend $20-$30 USD Dollars a day on food

Roast me

>>21245736
cronometer is so fucking inaccurate.
previtamins are not vitamins you FUCKING RETARD.
beta carotene, for example, is NOT vitamin a from meat.
I bet you think avocados have the same omega 3s as fish? LMAO
what it has is POORLY absorbed and poorly converted to the real omega 3.
your "food" is poison and youre being lied to and scammed into a slave diet

>>21245736
>buy vitamins because you can't stay healthy otherwise
dilate.

>>21245736
Retard
Hunter-gatherers were eating meat, berries and nuts afaik. Grains were not incorporated until less than 10,000 years ago and if anything "nutritionists" advise for a higher carb intake. You also do not need counterarguments because you refute yourself with your retardation alone and that comes from a brainlet as far as nutrition goes.

>>21245736
if you eat avocados, by the way, they don't have EPA of DHA, only ALA. and you can only convert fucking 1% OF THAT! LMAOOOOOOOOOO
eat fish you stupid retard
I bet your gay cronometer thinks otherwise. I bet you get all recommended vaccines and eat 12 servings of fucking grains a day you fucking untermensch

>>21245819
Nice assumptions about what I believe.

The body converts beta carotene to retinol. How do you think animals have it in the first place?
No I don't think avocados have the same omega 3s as fish because I'm not a retard. Just eat omega 3 ALA from plants and your body converts it to EPA and DHA.

Nobody has mentioned this based trick:

Mushrooms absorb flavor, so simply cook them with meat to stretch the meat. They’ll get a nice texture if fried in the same pan as meat

>>21245987
theres barely any science on conversion rates suggesting its a good idea for people in general is fucking retarded and dangerous

>>21244367
>how do you take a shit if you're not getting any fiber?

>>21245987
your body converts 1% of it.
we're not herbivores, we don't have the same digestive systems.
there are over 15 nutrients you can ONLY get from animals. ONLY.
the plants sources also SUCK for everything they do have. they also have TONS of shit that's bad for you.

>>21246050
>how do you shit without rotting plant mass in your intestines
fiber is indigestible. dont eat it. carnivore diet you shit a few times a week and it's always easy. you also will never fucking fart ever again (unless you gorge on dairy).
ever wonder why you shit kale out so fast? your body knows it's trash

>>21246057
>1%

Good thing ONE (1) sweet potato contains 45,000 IU of it lmao.

>>21246120
vitamin A, as in from ANIMALS. that's not the same thing. chronometer is for leg-crossing vegan faggots to do faggy check ups on their shit diet.
kill animals. eat them. you'll never need to catalog your fucking diet. you think people were eating sweet potatoes in the stone age? cause they didnt' even exist yet. get fucked

Bro.... at least eat some fruits and vegetables. Cabbage is cheap, bananas are cheap, broccoli, apples and oranges are more expensive but still cheap. Also buy some eggs and cans of sardines and eat a can once or twice a month. Your food budget might go up not by much and it's way better for you. And like someone else said liver is cheap and packed full of nutrients.

>>21245780
Same. Usually lunch is Chipotle, dinner is Mexican.

>>21246173
Cronometer is showing retinol equivalent units because it'd be retarded to display beta-carotene and retinol separately since one is turned into the other.

Bro wtf i spend $50 a week on boneless chicken thighs and every which kind of veggie, seltzer, i buy flour every so often cuz i got into baking bread. Git gud

>>21241063
heart is best for organ meat noobs cuz its a muscle

>>21246241
take your man-made foods that didn't even exist in prehistoric times, shove them up your ass, and then take your synthetic vegan meds (vitamin pills) because otherwise you'll wither away.

>>21246243
Sourdough is based. How hard is it to take care of your starter? I've never done it

>>21246173
its seriously so tragic how dumb vegans are
obviously a diet that requires such a strict protocol and monitoring to not die is obviously a retarded slave diet
anyone thinking about going vegan seriously read bertrand russels "impact of science on society" he talks about diets and vaccines literally being used to create a slave class
verbatim "in the future such failures are not likely to occur where there is dictatorship. Diet, injections and injunctions will combine from a very early age to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible" pg 50 impact of science on society

obviously talking about vegan diets lmao

>>21246325
You literally mix flour and water and feed equal parts flour+water daily for a few days till you see bubbles. Here's an active starter i have going a while. Supposedly its from an 800 year old dutch culture but any flour will do, organic whole grain/rye is best to start it, a dash of honey helps first feed

Yum red beans and rice is tasty, hopefully you Season it up nice and spicy.

>>21246395
So you can just mix it and leave it out on the counter and the right kind of cultures naturally start growing in it?

>>21246375
based. on my reading list, thanks anon.
yeah I know. honestly, /biz/ neglects diet but if you want to make well-informed, sharp decisions, you need to eat well. no amount of vitamin pills, meds, caffeine, nootropics, whatever other shit will equal the euphoric clarity we get after eating a ton of fat (like pork belly or several servings of bacon).
I think it was some actress. maybe anna kendrick. she said she went vegan and eventually couldnt take it and ate a salmon filet. she said she felt like her brain was a computer rebooting.
vegans are basically like, "well hey, my car still kinda runs if I pour industrial basedbean oil into it. gasoline is harmful didnt you see the studies" meanwhile they ignore everything right in front of them. you can't reason with them. thankfully, they can't live very long and become infertile.

>>21246489
>leave it out on the counter and the right kind of cultures
Thats exactly how you do it. Yeast is everywhere, and bacteria (which wjat gives you the acetic acid tang), and it just ferments on its own after a while. You start with whole wheat/rye first feeding cuz that has more yeast contaminants, then just regular all purpose flour once its going. I just got some established cultures off ebay for more sourness but i found that after getting a culture going for a while that it just turns sour on its own.

Look into it, it tastes so much better than store bought bread, and way cheaper. I bought a fuckton of flour for covid and was bored during lockdown and found a hobby

>>21246788
oh also, id cover your mix with cheese cloth or plastic wrap, fruit flies like the smell

Can we pause for a second and be thankful that we live in such an amazing time and country we all eat like kings several times per day and we don't have to work a field all day every single day just to survive?

We can just stroll to a nearby place that has half the types of food in the world and we can get what we want for nearly no cost.

>>21246788
isnt that phytic acid also on the bread that is tremendously bad for your teeth/maxilofacial structure? its also on rice/wheat etc and why you should always triple wash rice.

>>21246977
dubs of truth, had the most amazing bento box delivered to me for a negligible amount of money as my dinner..incredible sushi and sashimi.. but also im in philly where we have good food

>>21247061
washing rice has nothing to do with phytic acid you pseud

>>21247061
You wash rice to get starch out. You soak beans to get them less toxic, i assume phytic acid

>>21237947
isnt this literally what 97% of of people south america eat?

>>21246788
Thanks for the advice bro, I just looked into it and it looks like the starter is the easiest part of the entire process. I didn't realize breadmaking was so involved but you have to reshape it a few times as it's rising so it doesn't turn out fucked up.

>>21237947
>beans
>rice
>chicken
>leafy veg
>beef stock

simple as

>>21247087
>>21247359
>I didn't realize breadmaking was so involved but you have to reshape it a few times as it's rising so it doesn't turn out fucked up.
Yeah with sourdough its usually a 12+ hour process from start to out of the oven versus like 2-3 hours with commercial active dry yeast recipes. In total its not much prep time, its mostly waiting around. I often make dough after work and bake the next morning. Some doughs get more involved with kneeding especially when you add whole wheat/rye. Also before the modern age, all bread was sourdough

>>21246977

Can't be thankful though. I lived my whole life with food like that available. It's the baseline for us. Happiness is relative, not absolute.

>>21247449
>>21247359
Its rewarding desu

>>21237947
After the rona hit I started cooking everyday instead of going out, mainly b/c I wanted to be less of a stereotypical clueless autist but it also saves cash and lets you eat healthy
>sunny side up or scrambled eggs for breakfast
>keto pancakes throughout the day. make sure you add egg
>dinner is chicken breast w/ sauteed vegetables or potatoes. Pita bread as side
>intermittent tins of sardines, bowls of oatmeal, fresh fruit or clove of garlic throughout day, enough to get you to calorie/macro limit
This is literally all I eat. It's cheap af and healthy

I thought you all were joking about eating cat food but now I think you were serious in days gone by.

>>21247643
I think its ultra tards. You can eat good poor

>>21240078
>Saturated fat and cholesterol causes heart disease.
Imagine believing something that was fabricated in the 50s

>>21247643
like look at the pics i posted, these loaves cost me $0.70-$2 to make gas included. Bread isn't exactly healthy but the point I'm trying to make is you can get creative if you care the slightest

>>21247460
you're wrong, if you lose what you have you will know that you had something to be thankful for. you need to watch videos from africa. those red cross ads arent computer renders from a video game, you know. dont be entitled and spoiled, remind yourself to be thankful with what you have and still strive to get more.

>>21237947
take a walk and eat an orange? Go workout? You better not live in the states.

>>21239232
retard

>>21247849

If I lost what I had, I'd be angry because I have less. When my coins moon, I'm happy because I have more.

I am at my baseline and if I get richer, my baseline will rise. Bezos is not a million times happier than me and I am not a million times happier than a starving African. We are all at our baseline, which is the same.

>>21240078
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, it's sound advice.

You think those bullshit plant based high carb diets are the thing?Look up where it all came from, Ancel FUCKING Keys!
Look up the raw data to the 7 countries study and see how this bullshit of the SAD (Standard American Diet) was forced mainstream.

>>21240078
I can tell your from reddit aren't you? The fasting discord has made not of reddiots obsession with "beans".

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-to-reduce-antinutrients#section1

>>21244384
Can you grow the avacado in FL? In So. California 1 tree can keep you in Guac for a year

>>21241001

>>21247232
You always wash because the surfaces of all the food you buy is contaminated.

You always peel because chemical residues from pesticides penetrate the surface and skins are pretty worthless nutritionally speaking (despite what you've heard)