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Is there a way to solve income inequality without forced redistribution of wealth?

>> No.21205984

>>21205967
that's perverse

>> No.21206609
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>>21205967
>solve income inequality

>> No.21206702

>>21205967
yeah, stop giving away 30-50% in taxes
stop taxing everything
you get taxes on money you earn
then you get taxed on food you buy
then you get taxed if you make an investment
then you get taxed if you trade that investment for something else
then you get taxed on pulling profits

remove useless taxes
educate people on finances
nobody who is rich today became that way by spending it on gucci belts and pretending to be rich

>> No.21206709

>>21205967
the precise millisecond "income inequality" is solved, there will be another "x inequality" that will become the primary complaint of the new poor

case in point: the riots of 2020 while everyone was collecting 600 dollars a week for sitting on their asses and not working, instead of engaging in personal leisure and pastimes they went fucking berserk and started tearing down the country while being manipulated by propaganda media

inequality is necessary to pressure people into taking risk and trying to get ahead

>> No.21206728

>>21205967
Why am i hard right now

>> No.21206778

>>21206728
sometime a dude just want to see a chick get fuck by many tentacles

>> No.21206850

UBI. The Fed can YOLO and print a trillion a day to give to the banks, why can't it do the same just to keep motherfuckers fed and not desperate.

>> No.21206863

>>21206709
Niggers did this, people worked on self improvement. Niggers aren't people

>> No.21206916

>>21205967
Feed poor people to other poor people. There was a documentary about it back in the 70s.

>> No.21206970

What's wrong with income inequality? You think everyone deserves to win however much effort they put in?

>> No.21207036

>>21206702
they mostly got rich becausse they inherited it or werde doing business which caused costs they never had to pay but is now payed by society

>> No.21207043

You can't fix an inequality without redistribution of some kind.

Capital naturally accumulates and earns dividends. The rich will always get richer.

>> No.21207062
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21207062

Kill all poor people.

>> No.21207154

>>21206970
By that logic, a spoiled trust-fund baby puts in more effort than Jose making $7.25 an hour mowing lawns.

>> No.21207165

Negative interest rates. Basically If you are wealthy, your cash pile is evaporating so you either horde gold or invest. Not forced redistribution as it's still a free market, just harder to stay rich. If you are poor you get free money from the bank, so you're no longer poor.

>> No.21207176

>>21205967
Stable coins issued by the state that are tradable for national fiat currency, but they can only be spent in the state.
Also stabilize housing by tokenizing the loan money and adjusting interest by national grid location depending on how hot the market is in that location. Also shift to multihousing loans when needed.

>> No.21207214

>>21206702
Just reback the dollar with gold and silver so the government can't print money bro.

>> No.21207239

>>21205967
Stopping or severely slowing inflation for starters.

>> No.21207302

>>21207239
Inflation is good. It drives spending.

>> No.21207324

>>21207239
>Stopping or severely slowing inflation for starters.
get aload of this normie

>> No.21207345

>>21207214
Currency warfare is all the West has left at this point. We're done paying our bills. It's all BRRRRR from here.

>> No.21207348

>>21207302
this nigger

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>>21207302
>Inflation is good

>> No.21207383

>>21207302
only if there is enough liquidity for poorfags to actually have cash.

>> No.21207396

>>21205967
Income inequality isn't a problem, low class mobility is a problem and that's mostly caused by government intervention

>> No.21207406

>>21206609
dam is that really my boy elon>?

>> No.21207419

>>21206863
You're a fucking idiot. There were countless white people and latinos rioting too. Honestly the only group that didn't were the asians. Truth is many low IQ faggots have been fooled by the kike media, including you as evident by your dumbass post. Too focused on "nigger nigger nigger" instead of the people pulling YOUR strings

>> No.21207430

>>21205967
fuck off with that twitter shit

>> No.21207436

>>21207036
If they inherited their ancestors worked for it and deserved to have it passed to their descendants.

You don't want to pass your wealth to the next generation? You think it's gonna be better spent by the paper pushers of the government?

>> No.21207439

>>21206702
>Taxed when making an investment
You guys get taxed when buying stonk?

>> No.21207452

>>21205967
staggered capital gains tax that's very low below 500k and scales upwards the more millions you have

>> No.21207487

>>21206728
Because seeing the face of the dark lord Cthulhu has strange effects on one's mind.

>> No.21207507

>>21207165
How do I get free money from the bank?

>> No.21207522

>>21207452
Sure, way to make it harder and harder for the middle class to rise in power, keeping the 0.01% safe from competition.

>> No.21207690
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Yeah, education.
The problem arises when you force people into education who don't want to learn. These will never pull themselves up, so why should the rest do it for them? We need to, as a wider western society, learn to let the proles be proles. Let them remain in an ignorance that they could pull themselves from, as they have no one to blame for their unmoving position, and will fight against knowledge with ignorance if you try to intervene. Instead of aiming for equality, which results in the least successful being given the most support to try and raise them to the level of those who did it for themselves, we should aim for inequality. Let the prole keep himself in his self made trap of willful ignorance, support the man of learning as he wishes to journey higher and higher and report to us the view.
Equality is a false God, and you're not virtuous for it.

>> No.21207746

>>21205967

Yes, my Plan is to become the richest Man on Earth through kindness and offer you all a job you enjoy

>> No.21207749

>>21207522
it starts above 500k
if you're making 500k PER YEAR in capital gains you're definitely above just "middle class"

>> No.21207754

>>21205967
Monolithic systems of value are the problem. Money should not be the means by which all valuable things in life are achieved or presumed to be achieved, ie happiness, health, and stability. As a corollary, GDP should not be the prevailing metric of a country’s success. Too much is pegged to wealth and an abundance of money does not account for deficiencies/short comings that can persist on the individual level and national level #yanggang

>> No.21207868

>>21207749
You say that now but your underlying philosophy is what has been fucking the middle class for the last 100 in the profit of the parasites of both low and high classes.

>> No.21207929

>>21205967
Why would you want income equality? Do you not want to be able to make it?

>> No.21208036

>>21207929
It's worse than that, if you remove income inequality you condemn men to be only judged by looks, race, social proof or other bullshit.

Wealth is the great equalizer, in a capitalist world an ugly guy with no friend can rise above the masses by providing an useful service. Without it he will be out of lick and out of hope forever, no way to rise above his looks and social standing.

>> No.21208067

STA 401ks will bring wealth to the plebs

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>>21207302

>> No.21208312
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>>21205967
income equality isn't desirable. what you want is for people's material circumstance to more or less reflect their status. high amount of responsibility? lots of resources. low/no responsibility? low resources.

to understand the problem of statecraft, consider the following computer simulation (interested anons can work this out for themselves, the example was given in my stat thermo class):
- n entities ("humans")
- each entity is given $5
- simulation: entities "interface", ie, have 1 on 1 matchups where a coin toss determines whether entity 1 will give entity 2 $5 or vice versa (if an entity has 0$ and they lose, nothing happens).

now if you run this simulation long enough, you'll get a steady state distribution where the majority of the money is held by a tiny minority and the majority have nothing. if you change the simulation to make it so that the entities can go into debt, guess what happens: yup: majority have the maximum debt.

moral of the story: resource monopolies are spontaneous. however, resource hoarding leads to getting overthrown at the earliest possible opportunity bc people tend to not like being lorded over by totalitarian shitheads with hoards stolen from some other totalitarian shithead.

moral of the story: one purpose of a government is resource redistribution. if the government is going to work out long term, everyone has to be more or less OK with the distribution, or meritocracy (at least an appearance of meritocracy).

think a class system like India only working correctly (india's doesnt work anymore bc the mughals and anglos destroyed it, but it could be reinstituted at any time if foreign rule of india was dealt with)

>> No.21208688

>>21208312
People are not robots or digital entities, and there is always going to be circumstances which will impact your place in the economic hierarchy other than just how much capital you have at the moment. Also economics isnt a zero sum game as much as it was for most of human history. Class systems were typically perpetuated by the clergy or royalty to make their subjects more complacent.

>> No.21208853

>>21206863
only 2% of the rioters were black, 90% white cuck and 8% mulatos.

>> No.21209416

>>21207062
Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home
The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight
Gonna kill kill kill kill kill the poor
Kill kill kill kill kill the poor
Kill kill kill kill kill the poor tonight
Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone, feel free again
Oh, life's a breeze with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed…