/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21162248

>>21162248
Given supply and demand factors going forward, silver should be valued more highly than gold.
Change my mind.

>>21162164

It's a shame seeing what has happened to the UK. While I am mostly Swedish, I do have some British heritage and I lived in London for all of last year and I have a feeling that the only thing that is keeping the UK going is its financial sector (which is propped up by funny money). London is the epicentre of QE and the Cantillon effect IMO. I would be looking to GTFO if I were a Brit.

Silver will be on rocket fuel in 2021. Expect 4 digits. Gods money will reign supreme. Gods plan is unbreakable. Prepare

thinking about selling my suicide stack of LIT, would net me 40% right now and I could throw it into physical or miners

>>21162248
Alright anons whats the oldest PM coin u got

>>21162289

After the reset, nobody will be stupid enough to sell their gold for Bitcoin, or any cryptocurrency. Hence Bitcoin will become worthless. Fiat will actually be more valuable than Bitcoin, like novelty Zimbabwe trillion-dollar bills.

Satoshi is Adam Back, the head of Blockstream, and BTC was a scam from the beginning. Probably invented to serve as a second way to suppress the price of gold, since the COMEX alone wasn't sufficient. The gullible fools who created the 2017 bubble were distracted from buying gold and silver instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcvX0P1b5g

https://blog.plan99.net/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7

>>21162380
I have an 1806 Draped Bust, VG10 PCGS.

Oldest American coin ive got.

>>21162394
Bitcoin and the block chain is a product of the intelligence agencies. The research I believe stated in the DoD and goes back decades.

>>21162380

>>21162415
>doesnt post pic

>>21162289
>it's real
https://www.investing.com/news/economy/weekly-comic-gold-bitcoin-charge-to-new-highs-as-dollar-tumbles-2259594

>>21162394
You gotta admit though as a short to medium term investment, it’s been great for a lot of people. I totally missed the crypto train but you can’t argue with the success of those who didn't, regardless where it goes from now on.

>>21162289
>ULTRA RIGHT WING CURRENCY TERRORISTS

>>21162528
spicy!

>>21162289
I want to give cash frog a hug

>>21162248
Predictions for market open Sunday?

>>21162520

People who got into the South Sea Bubble early, and got out early, did very well also. Isaac Newton, for example. Of course, he then bought back in at the top and lost everything. And I'm sure that most of the people who invested in crypto were not more intelligent than Isaac Newton.

>>21162442

I agree. Blockstream is controlled by the banks, so the real purpose of BTC is blindingly obvious. The narrative used to be that Satoshi and BTC were pure, but then Blockstream and the banks corrupted them. But now that we know that Adam Back is Satoshi, everything makes perfect sense. This is why I think that Roger Ver and BCH are well-meaning but misguided. They are trying to get back to an ideal which never existed. And even if BCH or BSV did start to gain traction, Back would dump all his million coins and trash the project.

Where are all the Gold Silver Ratio FUDDERS lately? Fuckin idiots missed out on leveraged gains 'cause they can't read a chart. It's not too late, you'll just get 4 baggers to our 10 baggers...

>>21162467
As I stated in the earlier thread im at my old house and dont have access to my coins. Ill post some of my collection in the future. No need to lie about the most common year of Draped Bust half lol.

I did however add 3 oz. silver to my stack by digging up 3 2005 silver proof sets though. Feels good man.

>>21162615
Line go up

>>21162316
since silver is a commodity ( it has additional uses besides being money, and large portion is eternally destroyed ), I dont understand why the GSR is not at least 8 silver for 1 gold, at the least.

Also has anyone filled out the Sprott foreign investment form for PHYS or PSLV? Tough form?

>>21162582
The really scary part is how the IRL cash frogs aren’t remotely sad at all (yet). I think there’s a tendency for those who follow the metal and other commodities markets to imagine that people are paying attention and starting to panic. IRL cash frogs are for the most part more like pic related, because if they were sad they’d stop being cash frogs pretty fast. Almost by definition cash frogs have to be happy frogs. For now.

>>21162676
>mention precious metals in conversation a lot lately
>“Hey did you know gold is at over 2000 an oz?”
>WAIT WHAT NO WAY WTF?!!?

Every single time

Sunday night gap up gonna be big

>>21162380

>>21162380
1877 young queen vic sovereign.
I would like earlier but i would rather spend the premiums on more low premium stuff.

>>21162765
>holed

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

No but seriously Capped Busts are amazing. Any time I hold my Capped Busts I like to think about the hardcore old school frontiersman Americans using them to buy horses and shit way back when. Very based.

Is it bad to handle silver with rubber gloves?

>>21162360
how many x's we talkin here?

Where have all the Silver bars gone? How much high is silver gunna go?

>>21162887
Yes

How do you guys get your cotton gloves to handle your PMs? LCS, Amazon, etc?

The Golden Rule (from They Live): https://streamable.com/a1ynvk

>>21162721
Most people would have to think for a minute about how much an ounce is, and probably aren’t even sure whether $2,000 is a lot of money for that or not, and won’t know whether they’re buying the top, or whats going on. How would they?

If you’ve been stacking for a long time, this has probably been second nature to you for as long as you can remember, but I started only in April of this year.

>>/biz/thread/S18329812#p18329868

And only because I happened to browse /biz/ out of boredom and started reading /pmg/ because the old coins looked kind of cool, and the idea of buying PMs had never seriously occurred to me before this.

I’d heard about Ron Paul and the Fed and whatever, and classified the whole “buy gold” meme as just sort of a funny idea that might make sense, but I didn’t know anything about commodities markets, and it just seemed like an weird thing to do. I hadn’t even really thought enough about it to be afraid of and turned off by the burglary meme or dips in the market. It was just a big unknown that I really had never spent much time thinking about.

I think that’s where most people still are and still will be for months. Even if inflation really ramps up a lot of people won’t first turn to PMs because they don’t understand it, and even those who do will just think oh that’s a weird old hobby for smelly boomers, or that’s speculative, or these gold merchants are trying to pump and dump, or whatever. I think a lot of people will try to spend their money just on shit they understand like food medicine and weapons. Which probably isn’t a bad idea actually, but they’ll miss out.

>>21162967
It’s hitting $150 EOY

>>21162874
Its pretty amazing to fondle and contemplate, right? I do the same thing with crowns, schillings, francs and pfennigs. 1800 to early 1900 euro silver is great.

OOOOPSIE didn't see the new thread

>>21163001
>They Live
based

>>21162363
>you aren't crazy, the world is though.
nothing new there
To see the reality underlying the world is to invite insanity. Only the ignorant can maintain sanity. At least, that's the lesson of Lovecraft's universe.

>>21157457
>>cities being burned down by commies
that's not REALLY what's happening
It's always the poor and angry, now some of them claim to embrace socialism or some shit like that, or that they have a righteous crusade against the injustice of institutional racism.

And shit's fucked up, they're right about that. Just like the occupy wall streeters were "right" too.

But it's just riots because people are fucking terrified and angry. You don't force everyone to stay home, lost their jobs, and take away hope for the future without the poor rebelling and burning shit.

>>21158639
>Why yes, I did use my (((creditcard))).
>>21158742
>You keep the silver and they get fuck all

You're not claiming he plans to default? While the bank knows he just bought loads of silver? You think he can get away with hiding it from the repo men or some shit?

>miners

>>21163067
what happened? still up on JNUG but saw it ate shit today.

>>21163059
Fuck the banks I say take loans out and fuck them over

>>21163122
Yea, they take hundreds of billions of our money through income tax, Get credit cards max out of PM. FUCK EM

>>21162360
silverlets and their hopium. has been going on for decades lmao. nothing ever happens with silver. ever

Bros I cant decide, do I get this one...

BROS
I'm sick of all these useless coins and shit. Just government tools to get as all swapping rocks with eachother so we have to buy into the system instead of living off the land.

No, I want something useful.
I want some folding knives made of sterling, something like that. Something where I can store my valuable things in a form that isn't useless.

Maybe some other sterling tools, I can't think of any yet..

>>21162958
doesn't bankruptcy have some pretty annoying drawbacks?

>>21162153
jesus what a gross pig woman
she should be punished for her corpulence

>>21163122
>Fuck the banks I say take loans out and fuck them over
yeah but generally it's not the banks who get fucked if you try to do that

>>21163175
Or this one...

Im leaning towards this one but man theyre both beautiful

>>21163195
That's hideous. Get the first one.

>>21163179
>No, I want something useful.
>I want some folding knives made of sterling, something like that. Something where I can store my valuable things in a form that isn't useless.

Silverware and maybe even a silver goblet, plate or bowl would be cool. Plus silver is antibacterial. You can literally and not just metaphorically have a silver spoon in your mouth.

>>21163142
FUCK

I just bought like $2k of silver in the past month, and my credit card doesn't give me jack shit.

Whats the best card for my Good Boy Points?

>>21163091
>its rather painless
I can't see that being the case, I bet there's wage garnishments or some shit lurking in the shadows... I'll have to look into it.

>>21163246
t. doesn't appreciate valence shells

>>21163179

guwop_gold_detect

Does anyone have the archive link to that really good /biz/ thread from June about how fucked the bond market is? It got posted about a week ago but I can’t find it again. Feel like it should go in the OP.

>>21162380
1830 Bolivian peso and 1866 silver franc

Should I liquidate my 401k retirement fund and buy gold and silver? What about the penalties of withdrawing early? I have $50k and I am almost thirty years old. Hi!!

Your reddit friend.

>>21163466

It's here. https://i.warosu.org/biz/thread/19669109 Anon from the thread came back a few days ago before leaving for good. >>21042339

>>21163541
Rollover your 401k into a gold IRA. Unless you believe that gold is absolutely useless unless you have it in hand, it would be silly to liquidate your 401k.

>>21162380
1812 half dollar with a hole drilled in it. One of my retarded ancestors decided to make a necklace out of it.

>>21163560
Awesome, thanks a lot fren!

>>21162523
Unironically this is how we'll be villainized. All for having the ability to see a little further down the road than the rest.

>>21163059
>>>21158639
>>Why yes, I did use my (((creditcard))).
>>>21158742
>>You keep the silver and they get fuck all
>You're not claiming he plans to default? While the bank knows he just bought loads of silver? You think he can get away with hiding it from the repo men or some shit?

Use an intermediary - for example buy $1k visa GCs, use visa GCs to buy metal or turn into MOs.

Use an anon trust to hold the metal and use whatever entity to hold your RE assets. Just like if your married.

On paper you’re a pauper

>>21163122
>Fuck the banks I say take loans out and fuck them over

I’m shocked...SHOCKED!

Should I buy silver now or wait to see what happens this week? I keep hearing people mention a pullback but I'm not sure what it's based on.

>>21163283
>Whats the best card for my Good Boy Points?

What’s your play? Spend patterns? Just looking for as much 0% as you can get?

Frens, I have learned that a family member rolled coins in a bank for many years, and they found a dime that had been double struck with a nickel die. Dime on one half, nickel on the other. Someone offered them $1,500 for it in the 80's and they refused.

Do you know how I can determine worth of coin?

>>21163818
I barely spend money, NEET mooch and the moment.

But usually just groceries (Costco and Amazon, and Grocery Outlet), a few subscriptions/a gym membership. Monthly health insurance bill probably biggest expense.

I never carry a balance, pay off my card almost weekly. Probably best thing is just maximum cash back or something?

I probably won't be buying too much more PM unfortunately. (unless there's a real pullback, which would not be unusual after a rally like this.)

You have any advice?

>>21163769
>turn into MOs.
???

>>21163802
Buying a little every week, while saving your serious ammo for dips is one idea.

Or maybe there will be no significant dips any more at all, it’s every man for himself and you should go buy as much as possible while you still can, who knows.

I feel like I should beware of FOMO and the old adage that what goes up must come down, but given the current situation, is it possible this is actually not really true in this case, and just dogma of a kind? What is next week spot goes up ~$5 and premiums ~$10 by Friday, and permanently?

>>21163962
if*

>>21163962
If it does not happen this time its still going to happen and the prices will just go back up but the ability of your dollar to buy anything is only going to be more worthless in the future.
i am having a hard time seeing a real downside

>>21163095
>JNUG
Why are you holding a leveraged ETF?

>>21163802
Slow and steady imo anon, spread things out, that way you balance out your overall spend, rather than risking buying everything at a peak.

Is there a consensus on 40% half dollars?

>>21163955
>I never carry a balance, pay off my card almost weekly. Probably best thing is just maximum cash back or something?

I’d you want simple citi has a 1% + 1% (so 2% in the end) cashback MC. Assuming you’re not looking to do anything...exotic, it may be just what the doctor ordered.

>I probably won't be buying too much more PM unfortunately. (unless there's a real pullback, which would not be unusual after a rally like this.)

You can buy time with intro APRs and BT specials (just balance transfer the amount to yourself or another CC you’ve got a 0 balance in and the request a refund check) to pull cash out and incest as you see fit. Gamble is you’re going to beat the costs to do so.

>You have any advice?

I’ve been playing the manufactured spend game for a decade so I don’t mind being more aggressive with my unsecured (((debt))). Not a strategy for beginners though.

>>21163769
>turn into MOs.

Money orders.

>>21162248
oh shit. major happening inbound

>>21163962
From what I've been watching. Gold should d
Pull back to around $1900. $1800 is strong support but we probably won't get that low. Silver should go back down to $24 and hang out there for a minute until gold makes a big move up again to $24-2500

>>21164182
Everyone is locking in orders before the market opens on Monday. It will either explode up or down on open before consolidating higher on the week after Trump's pretty unprecedented executive orders.

ABC 1 kilo bars are very cool, they have a good clean finish

>>21164270
Every weekend is going to be like this for the foreseeable future

>>21164200
>pull back

Anon, I...

>>21164275
I’m pretty envious of you guys who can still afford kilo bars. I’m priced out as of last month, unless I save for two months to buy just one, which is probably not a good idea given how fast prices are rising.

>>21164200
>Gold should pull back to around $1900
Where do you hear that? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious where you're getting this info from.

Noob question, sorry guys.

Is sterling silver plated or solid? I dont know if some of the sterling silver items I find online are good deals or not. Im just not used to dealing with this stuff vs just regular bullion.

Found a fork for 2oz at $32 free shipping, says sterling silver on the back. I would buy but any general tips on sterling silver in general or tricks to identifying solid vs plate or finding the real value?

>>21164386
Thin fucking air. The USD is done for, gold 10k/oz silver 1k/oz by November 3rd/2020

>buy crypto instead of PM's
>walk into grocery store and shop for an organic beef as poorfags outside protest
>approach checkout
>emaciated woman rings up my item and gives me my total
>"that will be $289,638 and 71 cents s-sir"
>never takes her eyes off my 6oz organic beef burger patty I plan to grill later
>seems like she might have been pretty before the collapse
>"sure thing babe"
>pull out my chainlink wallet
>"heres 1/100th link, keep the change sweet tits. Just need the stores address"
>she looks confused
>says they dont take whatever that is, they only accept Fed Coin, USD since there is still a few months left to turn them in for Fed Coin, or Gold and Silver
>try to argue with her
>security comes and takes my beef away and kicks me out of the store
>walk back in and demand to see the manager
>start yelling at the woman and the manager who calls security again
>"Excuse me, what is going on here?"
>everyone stops, I turn around to see what silenced them
>see a 6'2" gentlemen in a suit with a cart full of whiskey and steak packages driven by multiple young virgin women
>"y-your eminence! this man here tried to buy his burger patty with something called..link I think? he is causing a scene..im so sorry"
>the man in the suit chuckles as he looks at me
>"Here you go fren"
>tosses me a small weird looking dime, seems old
>everyone in the rooms is wide eyed, manager looks at me
>"shall I ring up your 6oz burger patty, our dear customer" he bows his head as the woman goes to the register
>"Not so fast" speaks the well dressed man in the suit
>I turn to him confused
>"He needs to earn that Mercury Dime" he says with a twisted grin
>the girls to his side giggle to each other

>>21164170
>Money orders
I'm not seeing the advantage... sounds like you do some complicated things.

Yeah that citi might be worth it. Or any of them with a large "spend x get x back, one time only for opening a new card" thing

>>21164316
Yep. It's pretty crazy if you think about it that gold and silver prices aren't floating 24/7. A nuclear bomb could go off during a week end, you luck in prices at that moment and make instant profit when the market opens. Dealers will just stop trading on the weekend if it becomes too volatile

>>21164406
"Sterling Silver" generally refers to 92.5 percent solid Silver. The problem is that anyone can print 925 on the back of an item, especially if it's from China. I own Sterling necklaces and rings and such.

>>21164386


>>21164362

Different trend charts. Its already reversing. Maybe it'll try for a double top. What goes up must come down. You have to remember this is going to be a bull market for years. We must shake out weak hands and get better buying opportunities

new plan

>try to trade 0.5oz gold for 1kg silver with a friend
>buy another 50oz of silver
>at that point I have 20% in PMs
>put 15% of money in GDX/GDXJ/SIL/SILJ
>keep about 15% in cash for emergencies
not shure what to do with the other half of my money

>>21164458
>I'm not seeing the advantage... sounds like you do some complicated things.

Churn.

>Buy a $1k VISA GC for $1,003.95
>Use Visa GC to buy $1k MO
>Deposit MO into bank account
>Pay off CC, collect $20 in cash-back
>repeat

...basically it’s arbitrage where you buy a dollar for $0.98.

>>21164560
>what comes up must come down
You're right. But silver/gold aren't going up. The dollar is coming down.

Here is my full stack boys. I am quite proud of it.

>>21164633
Back in April a guy was selling 4 fortuna bars for 550 each I wish I got them all inside of just one lol.

>>21164590
I understand. I don't plan on selling my physical anytime soon. But when this balances out and takes off again. I think we'll the see a big move in the gdxj. I'm calling for a downward crab for 4-6 weeks. Which makes sense since sprott and others said to expect a big dip in septer/October. If it hopefully gets down to a strong $1800 support level. Think of it as a gift from the trading gods for another great buying opportunity. Remember anon this is a bull market for years. We know inflation is coming but the majority of people don't. Imagine how high gold will go once inflation kicks in from all the money printing. OR we get Maloney's massive deflation when the dust settles

>>21163001
I don't know, I got them from my grandpa when we used to go coin roll hunting together

>>21163195
There both pretty ugly this ones a little better cause of the Ag side

>>21163802
Dollar cost average, although with that being said I really want to fomo into a shit ton of silver when my LCS opens on monday

>>21163955
Chase freedom, does 1% on everything with rolling 5% categories each quarter, sometimes lame but occasionally grocery stores and right now it’s amazon so easy to max that one out

Amex blue cash everyday, 1% on everything, 2% gas stations and 3% grocery stores

Both these cards are no annual fees but they do have premium versions with a fee but the reward percentages are doubled if you’re smart about your spending they can be worth it. For me I stick with the free version and keep it simple, there are other cards that may have marginally better options if you’re just getting started but between these two I feel like I’m pretty well maxing out my reward potential with minimal effort and I don’t want to add additional accounts to eek out another few dollars

>>21164574
>arbitrage where you buy a dollar for $0.98
wat? no that can't be right... that must be some sort of illusion.

>>21162654
Yeah but how much?

>>21164814
all the way up

>>21163179
If you don't want to deal with money, why not just barter instead of dancing around it with money in funny shapes.

>>21164076
gambling

Silver gold ratio?

>>21164454
Quality

>>21164917
You know about decay right?

>>21163001
K I'm a fucking retard. I handled my coins with rubber gloves before even checking if that was a good idea. Should I wash them with soap or just leave them?

>>21164917
>he doesn’t know about leveraged ETF decays

>he didn’t read the investor email

>>21165072
yeah but i have a pretty good feeling about junior miners, also seems to be a lot of shenanigans that happen closer to elections, what's the play I should be doing here instead, calls every week?

>>21165072
>>21165186
I wanted in on some JNUG a while ago but a few anons warned about decay and leveraged ETGs so I got miners instead which I am happy with but I never figured out about decay and leveraged 3x stuff. I dont really mess with anything ETF related or with calls/puts. I just buy miners and some other stocks, thats it.

>>21165143
Washing them with soap is fine, just don't use abrasive things like a brush to scrub or scrape material off because it will damage soft metals like silver and gold. I doubt soapy water will do anything to prevent the sulfides from tarnishing the surface more quickly if you already touched them, but it can't do any harm besides possibly waste time so you might as well

>>21164428
rollin for this

>>21162380
Pic related, the glory of Rome lives on!!!

>>21165341
The only one I regret doing this to really is the 2020 maple I bought on friday, but oh well I'm new to this. I'll wash with soap and my finger thanks

>>21165400
Checked

>>21164454
>says they dont take whatever that is, they only accept Fed Coin, USD since there is still a few months left to turn them in for Fed Coin, or Gold and Silver
>Implying that the US government will reinstate the gold standard
Still, kino copypasta. This is what we're all waiting for

>>21164016
the real downside is the opportunity cost of putting those dollars elsewhere, like productive assets.

>>21165453
nice, i have a Marcus Aurelius Denarius on the way. shipping is taking weeks

I archived the Investing dot com front page with the based comic: https://archive.is/tyNMC

Do with it what you like.

>>21165453
>CE
Degenerate but KINO coin

>>21165400
You got it bucko, buy large, fuck fiat JEW money.

>>21165453
Nice. Need to get me an ancient coin, not just old, (100-300 years) ancient

>>21165455
If it's silver, it might tarnish it faster on the areas where the glove touched it. Gold might be similar but it is much less reactive and generally doesn't corrode except because of acidic skin oils, but I don't know about sulfides from gloves. If it's gold it's probably safe, but to be safe just handle all PMs with cotton gloves from now on

>>21165249
Yea this is a pretty bad way to play the sector, but to have the conviction to make the right plays you need to have had done the research to understand why specifically the sector is such a sure thing and for what time frame it will remain a 100% bet.

The best way to have leveraged gains in the sector is to research and buy individual high quality juniors, preferably 300M market cap and under and just holding them for 5-20 baggers depending on when and what you buy. You're taking a lot of unnecessary risk here for smaller upside potential. A precious metals bull market comes once every 10 years, don't waste it like this. Don't try to get rich quick, just do the work and get extremely rich in the 2-5 year range.

>>21165455
>>21165560
Also, the finger oils will get washed away by the soapy water when washing so you don't have to worry about that. Generally I think rubber gloves are an issue when repeatedly handling your PMs with them, but only time will tell. Again always use cotton gloves to be safe.

>>21164366
I was so annoyed when I FOMO $547 per Scottsdale Kilo instead of $528 I saw earlier in the week

Months later, I don't think I have the right to complain.

>>21165609
thanks for the info. because i am a degenerate gambler i'll probably just do both and match what i'm holding in JNUG with a few miners i was looking at initially but got lazy and just went for the LETF. i'll learn my lesson the hard way and probably still enjoy some nice gains.

>>21165613
>>21165560
Ya they're silver coins. I'll look where I can get a cotton glove online. Thanks anon

It's over silver bros just saw an article about how well copper gold and silver are going under Google search bar

>>21165453
one of these days i ll try and order a good roman coin online again.

>>21165625
Except when, months later, it is only $431
>:D

>>21165860
oh no

>>21162380
Roman denarius 139

>>21162755
How you know there will be a gap up?

Guys help. I have way too many /pmg/ posts to screenshot and archive im getting overwhelmed

>>21166202
Unprecedented executive orders by Trump in terms of currency creation and velocity of money will undoubtedly cause volatility in the currency and metal markets

>>21166301
ahhh jesus why not just go through the archive and ctrl F for /pmg/? is your computer running at a crawl?

>>21166361
My memory/RAM is at around 85%. I also have another window open with about as many tabs for youtube and other stuff Im researching. I'll whittle it down eventually. Then I have an archive of tabs and windows that I've saved with a chrome extension so my computer isn't bogged down lol

>>21166301

>>21166348
I hope so, feels like Friday was just abit of a paper sell off so people didn’t have to hold over the weekend because of uncertainty, now everyone will want to hold for another week to get more profits

>>21162380
My grandfather has a roman gold coin. He has all sorts of odd collectibles in his machine shop. I hope I get it now that he knows I'm into numismatics.

>>21162642
How does Katusa define month zero of a bull market?

>>21163175
Who makes this?

I just bought 100 oz silver and 1 oz gold mint coins at ATH prices.... I honestly think the USD is going down ruther

>>21164138
Nobody buys 40s?

>>21166691
hmm, only place I could find this.

>>21166301
holy fuck. I'm not a very autistic dude, but this is giving me an anxiety attack. how the fuck did you let it get this bad?

>>21166691
DGSE. Sold on eBay

>>21162380
oldest coinage i have is from my ex girlfriend from her trip to Britain. She metal detected this for me. Still have no real clue what it actually is though, latin isnt my strong suite.

>>21166918
Definitely roman, there’s loads of roman coins in Britain my friend metal detects his farm and finds them all the time

>>21166981
she found about 20 but most were so degraded they were illegible. Anyone got any ideas how old this is?

>>21162248
Maloneypilled

>Internet service provider rings me yesterday
>'sir we have your cashback reward ready, how would you like us to send you the money?'
>'don't you mean currency, not money? Unless you have the facility to send gold or silver through the post'
>bitch acts confused
>I take her through the last 3000 years of monetary history and clearly explain the difference between currency and money
>'very interesting sir but you still need to let us know if you want us to send you the money by cheque or bank transfer'
>I see red
>'that's not money that's currency you dumb bitch! You can't even use correct terminology when talking to me? This conversation is over'
>hang up phone and go back to arranging my silver stack

Do I buy Gold and Silver now or wait for futures to open?!?

Do you guys ever check eBay Buy It Now prices? It’s getting a bit scary out there. Most one ounce coins are now pushing $40. Almost before you know it this shit will already be almost Revolutionary France-tier.

https://moneyweek.com/investments/commodities/silver-and-other-precious-metals/601798/platinum-precious-metal-gold-silver-bull-market?amp

>article about Platinum
>long af
>writes about silver and gold
>one sentence about Platinum
>author can't put together one article on Platinum
>only says "pLaTiNuM iS aN iNDusTRiaL nOT mOneTaRy mEtAL"
Truly a hidden gem.

Unironically what happens if the gov bans the sale of gold and silver and implements some buy back program to people who dont want to sit on their metal for 30 years until the sale is made legal again?

>>21167159
Don’t silver Kruger’s go for a higher premium anyway? What’s some of the more generic coins going for

>>21167159
And if you think BIN only shows the sellers’ desired price and not what actually sells and at what price, check out auctions going on right now. It’s essentially the same story.

>>21167186
Same thing that happens when the government tries to ban anything, a black market forms and the price goes even higher

>>21167159
I was looking at the crazy prices some people were putting on gold flakes and nuggets earlier this evening. I mean come now, nuggets have a premium, but some random gold flakes that barely weigh a half a gram for $100, are you kidding me?

>>21167211
Krugerrands are actually one of the cheaper coins at least where I am, so are Phillies. Maybe Roos are a little cheaper, I didn’t see, although of course you can check yourself and find out what they are going for.

>>21167243
This is the kind of stuff normies buy during a mania. This is a great sign

>>21167090
Por que no los dos?

>>21166918
maybe Licinius? around 300 AD

>>21167211
This appears to be the cheapest silver round (1oz) on Buy It Now.

>>21167292
All the half Oz .5cm mesh gold flake sellers are out, I could totally see normies buying those up.

>>21167358
Yeah premiums are through the roof, everyone expects higher prices very soon

Has anyone else ever had milkspotting on ASEs? I got one single one in a big lot of 2020s off of SD Bullion months ago, and I got 5 more 2020s in a private deal and they arrived today, and one of them had milkspotting.

I knew this happened to older maples, but I've only seen it on two ASEs, and they were both 2020s.

>>21167424
I mean I suppose $33 isn’t that bad at this point. But that’s one of the very cheapest, MOST 1oz coins and rounds are already both selling and buying in the mid-30s, if not 40s. Beware a bubble etc. the usual warnings apply I suppose, but it’s strange, isn’t it, to think that at this moment we could all probably get $40 for MOST of our coins at this point, certainly in a week.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogpw8x61My0
>Hip-Hop jewelers are giving better financial advice than your financial adviser.

Will prices go up or down when Futures open??

>>21167556
Yes

>>21164633
Nice aus anon, now you just need an ounce of gold UwU

>>21167497
that kike is hilarious

>>21167424
I really hate the word 'premium'. In Australia if I want to buy a single ounce of silver, the cheapest I can possibly find is 48 AUD. That's the price, whatever the cheapest you can pay to get something is the price, not a premium on some theoretical "price".

>>21167844
>that kike is hilarious
he did a video yelling about the government printing cash and I was so impressed by his balls that I bought my next chain from him.

>>21164138
I like them and their cheap, but they can be hard to sell and tend to take up space if you buy a ton of them.

I am rolling for $20 silver.

>>21167921
Based

>>21167921
Why is everything so expensive down under

>>21167921
Any cheap scrap silver? I found 50% shillings for about $46/oz

>>21167967
Roll for moon mission on Sunday night.

>>21168017
The most economical way is kilo or 100 oz bars.

I don't think there's a shortage of silver yet but there is a shortage of small rounds and bars, they've all been bought up and the mints aren't used to this kind of demand.

>>21167967
Roll for $50 eoy.

>>21167967
75 by feb 2021

>>21168017
I found 100 50% florins that worked out about 140 under melt value and 15 1966 rounds for 10 each bit nothing like 3-4 months ago.

>>21167921

The so-called premium is only a real premium if you don't believe in manipulation. The word seems ridiculous to us only because we know that the "premium" price is the real price, and is, in fact, what keeps forcibly dragging up the spot price. Anybody who isn't a complete idiot is standing for delivery on the COMEX, where they can buy at the manipulated spot price, thus undercutting the real price; hence the bankers have to let the spot price climb in order not to be completely overwhelmed by the demand for physical.

Why the collapse has to happen: https://youtu.be/5WPB2u8EzL8?t=3095

>>21163541
You most likely are eligible under The Cares Act to liquidate up to $100K right now until the eoy with zero penalty.

>>21168342
theres a period in "Youtube".
Nice Scam Nigger Kike!

>>21162394
>satoshi is adam beck
>bitcoin will go to zero

Ask me how I know you are retarded.

>>21167967
>>21168018
>>21168072
>>21168093

>>21168342
>The world has to end because Jenga
yeah, I'm cool with the world not ending then

>>21168424
What

>>21168653
The rest of the video is interesting too. Also there's more stuff about financialization before where I linked to

How long until Asian markets open

>>21168694
Like 12-13 hours

>>21168688
anon... this looks to be a political or some sort of idealogue just making doomporn so everyone can jerk off to the thought of telling normies "I told you so"...
just give us some bullet points.

It's a lecture, tell me you took some notes, right?

>>21168694
Expect the PM Futures activity to ramp up from 9PM EST and not really pick up volume until after 10PM EST. Volume would only take off out of the gate if there were (a) significant geopolitical event(s).

>>21168584
>mfw in this cap

never bought off ebay before, but the buyer score is like 1158 and 99% posotive, should I do it

>>21162289

>>21169213
Can you find it cheaper elsewhere?

>>21169213
Silver from eBay costs a bit more, but if you see the seller having all the positive reviews and he specializes in metals, go for it. I got some rare coins off eBay for like $1-2 more than they would be somewhere else probably.

>>21162289
Omg it’s real

>>21162289
BASED AND SAVED, use that for the next OP

>>21162394
Holy shitting fuck, this post is so delusional I began to lose my sense of reality as I read it. PMs aren't going away, blockchain isn't going away, especially as it becomes more utility focused like with chainlink. Own both if you want a future.

>>21169305
>>21169419

>>21162523
>ULTRA RIGHT WING CURRENCY TERRORISTS

>>21169420
Nah, as civilizational complexity decreases with a collapsing economy, the power grid cryptocurrencies depend on will get more expensive and POW algorithms won't be able to be maintained in a way that ensures timely average transaction times

>>21163012
good thoughts anon

>>21162380
Tetradrachm from Macedon Under Rome ~95 bc

>>21169420
>>21162520
What is my proof of work for PMs? That I dug it out of the ground. One and done deal. Cryptocurrencies time average the energy cost of proving monetary value, meaning that energy will always have to be input in order to ensure the integrity of money. I can use gold coins from the roman empire as money if I can find them. Excluding inevitable loss of coins due to human error, the same money could serve as a medium of exchange indefinitely and be remelted when it gets worn down. Plus the time it takes to put a coin in someone else's hand is much more instantaneous and satisfying than something that seems like it should be instant like cryptocurrency, in that it uses electricity which travels at the speed of light.
>>21169627
>>21166918
>>21166149
>>21165491
>>21165453
>>21162380
>>21166570
>>21166981
There are tons of examples just in this thread alone that could be potentially used. Gold is eternal. Gold is God's money.

>>21167488
I've never heard of it on ASEs. Canadian Maples yes

Guys srs where can i buy silver pamp fortunas in yurop without 25% vat

>>21163067

>>21169779
Privately maybe

>>21162289
is this site mainstream

>>21169779
>Guys srs where can i buy silver pamp fortunas in yurop without 25% vat
Flea markets

>>21169779
one buys silver in full 1oz coin tubes and not meme bars

>>21171150
Its a huge site. I use it for getting good data and graphs

>>21162360
silver may go to 50USD in the next year, but that is already best case scenario
if you expect four digit USD per ounce silver, than we will see gold at 80.000USD per ounce, that is how retarded you sound like

>>21169420
>blockchain isn't going away
wait how does that make any of the crypto currencies worth "owning"

>>21171202
>silver may go to 50USD in the next year, but that is already best case scenario
Pleb, Silver will go to 50 this year easily.
>if you expect four digit USD per ounce silver, than we will see gold at 80.000USD per ounce, that is how retarded you sound like
Gold-silver ratio will go down to 15 so, so no we wont be seeing 80k gold but we may see 1000 dollar silver when the mania really starts

>>21169213
Aztec pattern on back is great but this zika baby headed nigger is ugly as Fuck

>>21171260
>wait how does that make any of the crypto currencies worth "owning"
It doesnt. Central banks will start putting out their own blockchain FEDcoins and the justice department will start prosecuting anyone involved with "illegal" decentralized crypto

>>21163857
Does this help?

https://varietyerrors.com/coin-price-guide/double-denomination-coins-price-guide/

>>21171303
>the justice department will start prosecuting anyone involved with "illegal" decentralized crypto
that doesn't seem necessary. People can still use it to play their favorite game, "Don't be the last one to sell".

I think /pmg/ is dying. We're on page 6

>>21167032
>>21167334
ye this is licinius, the transcription is:
IMPLICINIUS somethingsomething

>>21171627
People with lives choosing to forgo posting at 5 am? Truly /pmg/ is dead

>>21171627
Everyone on 4 Chan blew their load a few days ago at 29, now they have no cash and the dealers have little product besides presales and cyber rounds.

>>21171627
I can’t see anyone having faith in physical silver or any other PM when it becomes a fact that it’s not backed by SLV and the real amount of SLV is way less then what’s been trading on apmex and thus suppressing the real value of SLV per share.

What will happen!!??? I just want a farm so I can stop fapping to images of 40 year old moms and stop stumbling with my relationship with Christ because I am a wage cuck!!

>>21171627
The markets are closed, that’s why. When Asia opens these threads will start flying again and won’t stop until Saturday.

>>21171675
Found the ID to filter

>>21171658
>>21171732
True

>>21171648
Yeah, sometimes I forget it's not natural to be up at this time every other day

>>21171627
Its a sunday, the only reason why im posting here is because its too hot to go outside and I'm not going to the beach because of corona-chan and all the human detritus thats flooded the beach now in Norhtwestern Europe
Also I'm doing due dilligence on silver explorers now.

Buy BCK Blind Creek Resources. Next week newsrelease will be that Eric Sprott invested in this microcap.

>>21162642
that's such a stupid ass graph. We're in the final part of the bullrun.

>>21171844
>that's such a stupid ass graph. We're in the final part of the bullrun.
Lol
The bullrun hasn't even started yet. You think governments will force Central Banks to stop printing money? You think they'll let their economies spiral into a deflationary collapse?

>>21171791
Always remember to filter and report id SwoQj1Q/ aka the sprott bot, to the SEC for misinformation, outright lies and hate speech

1) He posts 2 times in each thread mocking me for paying 63% premiums

2) He takes other people's posts and manipulates them.

3) He laughs at my naivetee and missing chin He scams people into savingg their money. This is an outrage. Free speech doesn't mean you can say mean things.

4) He/them/they make obscene and unfair profits while laughing at me

>>21171798
Anyone here who supports sprott funds is a shill. You were caught yesterday samefagging and shilling for sprott funds , trying to cheat people pumping worthless penny stock scams

>>21171935
are you that butt hurt paper faggot? You always type in the same format and punctuation.

>>21171982
Why do you never speak out about the comex conspiracy? Why do you never speak out against the slander of heroes like jp morgan , heroes like SLV ? Why why why? I will tell you why because you are a premium grabber a pump and dumpster a shill for shifty schiff for shady sprott. Seek christ and ask for redemption and let his golden SLV shine down on you

All you boys that are invested in Miners how worried are you about nationalization? Don't think Daddy Trump will do it, but who knows?

>>21172283
When miners are nationalized and physical metals confiscated SLV and GLD will soar

>>21172283
Not gonna happen. I'm buying the dips on all the miners, this shit will explode when the CoronaMeme is forgotten, but the printed Trillions are still here.

>>21172283
>All you boys that are invested in Miners how worried are you about nationalization? Don't think Daddy Trump will do it, but who knows?
This really depends on the jurisdiction you invest in. I'm not too worried because I try to avoid shithole countries. Canada, Australia, and parts of the US that are pro-mining are probably the best.
My contrarian take is that Russia is also a pretty good country to invest in, because they're pro-mining, want investment, want reduce their reliance on oil and gas, and are some of the most fiscally conservative governments out there.

Eric Sprott recently bought more shares of AbraPlata, which owns a deposit in Argentina. I think he and other investors are really underestimating the likelihood that the Argentinians will just nationalize this deposit and all other precious metals projects and mines. Argentina is a shithole that has defaulted on its debts so many times, and they have nationalized companies often in the last 50 years.

>>21172355
>Not gonna happen.
If gold goes to 3000 and silver goes to 100 there's going to be plenty of third world dictators and first world socialist bureaucrats and politicians who will try to nationalize and/or tax to death mines. It happened in the 1960s and 1970s, happened in the 2000s and early 2010s and will happen in the 2020s.
Choose your jurisdiction wisely. Avoid places you wouldn't dare to visit and wouldnt buy property.

>>21172551
True. A lot of the big names may be based in Canada and U.S, but they own mines in places like Argentina

For instance. Yamana Gold(AUY), a Canadian company, is severely undervalued, but they have mines in Argentina and Brazil.

>>21172551
>Avoid places you wouldn't dare to visit and wouldnt buy property.

So avoid the usa canada and Mexico. I guess you dont want any silver miners and certainly not the schiff pump n dumps shilled here

>>21172457
What miners would be safe in your mind? Jr Miners?

>>21172684
Yes buy stocks that go down 50% because the management forgot to rent a bulldozer you are so smart

>>21172684
At this stage I like exploration companies with ounces in the ground and low marketcaps. The major producers and junior producers already have gone up significantly but there are still explorers that have not moved at all.
Here's a useful list of stocks. https://ceo.ca/silver?71120e3cec1e

Safety is based on many different factors. Read this to get an idea of the risks:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/categories/mining
My personal favourite stock right now is BCK Blind Creek Resources. It has 4m oz silver inferred and 32m oz silver indicated (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_resource_classification#Mineral_resources)), is in a great jurisdiction in Yukon Canada, tightly held sharestructure with insiders owning 40%, significant exploration upside at low cost, and a MC of around 7,5m canadian dollars after all options and warrants have been exercised.

>>21172821
When gold's at $10000 they won't need to RENT anymore.

>>21171627
>sunny weekend
>markets closed
>most of us are boomers who enjoy spending their time outside like an average Normie would
Only CryptoCoomers are fapping in their basements when there is an amazing summer out there. Now let me grab some Monster Energy Zero Ultra.

>>21173055
Because they will be bankrupt. Dont buy penny stocks shilled by schiff shills

>>21173055
>When gold's at $10000 they won't need to RENT anymore.
When gold goes into mania phase all microcap explorers will be going up 10x at least, even if they're run by known scammers operating in Nigeria with completely worthless moose pasture tenements

>>21169420

Blockchain technology may yet have a future. Decentralized, anonymous, unregulated transaction ledgers absolutely do not.

There's a lot of smart but spergy people in the space who fail to understand it is not a coding problem. Currency is an artifact of government and a tool by which it controls society. Governments will never sit idly by and simply watch as you take this power away from them.

So, they will move against exchanges soon. They may offer to swap people to fedcoin or just digital dollars (no real difference) or they may just tell you to get fucked as your "currency" plummets to zero, because the men with guns said no one is allowed to use it in the territory they control... which is everywhere where you would want to buy anything.

If you made money in crypto, be glad, take your profit, and gtfo.

In every good community there always has to be at least one antagonistic little cunt to ignore whose mommy didn’t love him.

>>21163001
The Mercury Dimes Rule: He who has the Mercury Dimes makes the rules.

>>21173564
What is the proof of work for precious metals? That I dug it out of the ground? One and done deal? I dont think so. Precious metals time average 13 times the energy cost of proving monetary value, meaning that more and more energy will always have to be input in order to ensure the integrity of money via storage, protection and transfer. I can use gold coins from the roman empire as money if I can find them, prevent them from being lost, pay for security guards etc. Excluding inevitable loss of coins due to human error, the same money could serve as a medium of exchange indefinitely and be remelted when it gets worn down if you can afford it which you cant. Plus the time it takes to put a coin in someone else's hand is an eternity much slower and less satisfying than the instantaneous transfer of SLV, in that it uses electricity which travels at the speed of light.

>>21163541
Pull that shit out now nigger! You can get ut all out and buy silver! The dollar lost 6% already this year, and look at how much silver is up, and with very low risk we can expect silver to go to $40 spot. I'm planning to sell half my holdings at $70-100 and pay off my house.

>>21173997
Buy SLV

>>21173997
Based
Fortunes will be made by buying physical silver and the miners

>>21171273
okay, keep telling yourself that

What happened about the comes delivery controversy? Did buyers get their shinies?

>>21174183
*comes = COMEX

>>21174183
Obviously they got their deliveries.

Do you really think they wouldn't deliver?

>>21174183
they are due in september, so we will see then

>>21173066
Literally about to go kayaking. It's a new thing that there treads are even this active on the weekends. Clearly a massive increase in interest. It is a double edge sword though: while i like that i can read some fresh content with my sunday morning coffee, the arrival of schizos like the SLV shill has caused a pretty big decrease in the quality of comfy levels in /pmg/.

>>21174396
I think you shouldn't bring your stack along with you while kayaking but you do you

>>21174396
here have a shiny coin to look at

>>21174440
Thats a nice guilden

>>21163541

See if you can move it into a brokerage. Some 401ks will let you do this, and pick your stocks.

If so, keep it in the 401k and park however much you want into allocated etfs or the miner etfs such as gdx gdxj sil silj.

Downside is they probably won't let you do margin or options.

>>21174434
Yes jump out of the kayak with your metal and sink to the bottom gurgling bbbbbut at least it wasn't real paper silver

Everyone who bought SLV has a huge profit

Everyone who was a PPP (Premium Paying Pantywaist) has lost a small fortune.

That why yall folx hate The $ilvermaster. Cheerio! And Toodleoo! Based and $ilvermaster pilled!

>>21174534