/biz/ - Business & Finance

I'm in top 1000 wallets and did not feel comfy before I was in the top 800ish. Unironically aquired my Link when I was a NEET

I hold 10k and im not comfy, how are we supposed to hit $300 by next summer? I want to make it before I turn 30

Had 25,000 bought during 2018; sold 10,000k in June last year when it hit £3+ due to stuff in actual real life, sold another 5000 at some point due to more events that needed actual cash, sitting on 10k and in no rush to sell.

>>21028849
Feels pretty good fren, ngl.

Got in LINK late 2017, and began moving all my holdings into it by February - March 2018.

July 2018 was the toughest time of my life, with all my savings becoming crippled in the market. Took out $15k on credit to buy and paid off the balance in the next 4 months.

2018 was the worst year of my life and, at the time, I didn't realize how necessary it was to experience/go through in-order to be in this position today.

I wish you luck anon...don't ever sell/find any other way to last if need-be.

I owe a great deal of gratitude to the shitposters of /biz. I'll probably never leave "for good"; though, had to take some of 2019 to myself after it was crystal clear we were on the track to making it. Can't wait for the yacht party.

>sry for the reddit spacing

>>21028849
You forget people who have multiple smaller accounts and have stuff on exchanges

Just passing by to tell you that I had 3 years.
Was here when /biz/ was digging through breadcrumbs and memeing into existence partnerships.
I've never sold a single LINK, bought before 50c and am still below 10k.

>>21028849
had 11k but sold it all for bat and a new PC

>>21029212
True but probably the best assumption we can make is that they cancel out with the people who divide their stacks in to groups of 10, 20, 30k etc. I'm going to assume that the top 3000 figure is accurate. There is no way of knowing 100% for sure, it could be more or less.

>>21028849
How many people do you think hold more than 100k?
200k?

By the way does anyone know a good way of determining how much USD you've spent on LINK? I've bought on 3 exchanges:
>binance using ETH>LINK trade
>Kraken buying ETH and sending it to binance for ETH>LINK trade
>Coinbase Pro directly buying LINK with USD
Is there some kind of website or app where I can just input my address and it finds out how much USD total I spent on accumulating my 10k stack? I'm estimating I spent 20-30k but I want to know for sure.
>>21029371
Bro you can look it up I posted the link to the LINK address scanner in the OP.

>>21028849
not too comfy frend. I don't know why i didnt buy more instead of gambling away my money.

>>21029394
If you have 10K at least you will be good. Don't worry about regretting what could have been. 10k means you did well enough.

>>21028849
Started buying late at 40c since I thought it was just antithetical pump and dump. Then left biz for awhile and didn’t come back till late 2018. Fortunately I decided to dig through all the bread crumbs I missed and have accumulated 20k at all prices since 40 cents. But fuck. I could have had over 100k linkies.

>>21028849
Ive got myself 65k link since day 1 ya feeling good but we all know we should be at $20 now. Anyway it’s just a matter of patience.

>>21029338
Yeah I mean, I suppose people with less than 10k won't split their stack. But I feel like way more anons than we suspect have 10k+on exchanges. Wasn't that big of a deal back then, and now with ledger hack and also fear of fucking it all up by yourself I reckon some lads rather keep it on exchanges

>>21028849
how many wallets with more then 30k link exist?

>>21029308
damn

>>21029554
Most people with a 10k or higher stack are intelligent enough to realize you do NOT ever leave that much on an exchange indefinitely. Exchanges get hacked.

>>21029558
>https://ethplorer.io/address/0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca#tab=tab-holders&holders=1
Check for yourself.

>>21029554
no, that's retarded. nobody keeps 10k+ on an exchange

Not selling a single Link until it hits $360 which is achievable when Link hits the top 3 (7.77x) by market cap and then rises in line with ETH which goes to $2,000 (5x). We're all gonna make it if we can continue to be patient.

>>21029164

>>21028849
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>>21030060

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>>21029778
>he doesn't keep his link on binance for that 1% compounding interest

>>21030165
>Routinely hacked chink exchange

>>21030165
this

also, gotta be honest -- with coinbase you're FDIC insured up to $250k (like a bank account), and binance has dealt with every attack professionally/not at the expense of their users.

with that said, leaving your tokens/investment on any other exchange...i would be weary (CB and BNB are big enough entities/have enough at stake to take losses and not screw their customers to become the de facto markets for this industry)

>>21030235
its japanese. and its a free 12 usd everyday

>>21030235
let me ask you...when has binance never honored a compromised account's balance previous to an attack?

also: where else do you get that kinda security in crypto?

>>21030339
k bro keep all your LINK on binance then lmao

>>21030419
i don't keep all my LINK in one spot in the event that one place becomes compromised you fucking tard

i'm saying you have inasmuch of a chance of fucking your retarded self with a hard/cold wallet than CZ running away with your "millions", when there are billions/trillions on the line in being the most trusted exchange out there

>>21030538
>binance
>most trusted exchange
kek

>>21029424
I need at least $2 million after tax to "make it". (retire and still make an engineer's salary without depleting your capital) Do you really think 10k will get you there? Within the next couple years?

11k here since ICO, comfy as fuck and never selling unless it's staking gains

>>21028849
Lol. Use a better blockchain explorer software and you’ll notice that there is less than 500 10k holders throughout a few dozens of whales.

>>21030598
>no argument/retort
>no prior example of Binance being hacked AND not protecting its users in the aftermath
>misinterpreting the race to being "the most trusted exchange" with already having that title

yikes

>>21030620
In the next couple of years? No one can answer that. Eventually? I believe so.

>>21030651
>Use a better blockchain explorer software

like what?

>>21030620
the make it stack has always been 50k

>>21030651
Name one. And there is no way there is only 500 10k holders. You gotta source that or fuck off.

i hold 150 LINK

how yall doin?

>tfw within top 500 wallet
I wonder who the other 500 people are? Corporations?

>>21030758
Assume he is lying and you are a top 3000 wallet until he proves otherwise.

2041st wallet here with nearly 16k
>Not selling till at least 100

wen $10 tho

Had 10k but sold it in 2019. Up to 8k LINK now and hopefully will reach 10k by November.

I got 4000, do I get any respect at all?

i hold long storng dick, lp and over +15k linkii
i am going to fucking make it you fucks

>>21031035
Top 1800 wallet here and I'm never selling. Why would you sell when you will get more rewards from staking than you would from other investments?

Let’s assume we all made it with 5m. How to deversify? Stocks? Property? I want to live the easy life and be my own boss.

>>21030339
I have to admit
CZ did pay out when you withdrew and it probably wasn't easy running that kind of exchange with the CCP breathing down your neck

regardless, centralized exchanges need to leave the market, they are holding the entire crypto industry back

>>21031509
buy 1.7 million happy meals from your local McDonalds

>>21031548
Then sell them to you with profit?

>>21031512
completely agree re: centralized exchanges need to leave the market

as well, not recommending any anon (with a heavy stack) leave all of their LINK in any single individual account/wallet.

>>21028849
I bought last night in the high 9.80s trying to bomb it through 10 dollars. Retarded decision but im still comfy. I jist couldn't deal with living in a world where I held no link as it blasted through 10 dollars.

As far as I see it this is a milestone that could see a face ripping run initiated. I would kms if it shot to 13/14 and I was sitting with my lad in my hand.

>>21030682
>>21030711
https://github.com/shawntabrizi/ETH-Balance-Graph but you’ll need to minimally modify the code. No, I’m not gonna provide you my forked code.

>>21032017
I’m might have understated the efforts with “minimally” as it was quite a bit of work. Don’t mean to brag.

With custom charting it becomes obvious that very large whales have been splitting/re-consolidating their wallets over time to make it look like they were selling/buying.

Also creating almost empty new wallets to make it look like more and more people are buying. All I’m going to say.

Even only having 3500 LINK puts you in the top 7000ish wallets last I checked. Literally everyone above sergeant is going to make it.

Bought 10k because that's what y'all said to buy.

Wish I got more.

I dont buy any crypto in over a year


I have all my link on binance still thr chinese version

>>21032110
Bullish or bearish?

>>21028849
>he is unaware

>>21032017
>>21032110
based
and im a top 1000 wallet and i bought my first ETH at the actual peak. good thing everything has been put into link since feb 2018

>>21032382
Jokes on you I'm 70-30 in LINK and XRP.

>>21029391
I used excel. Wrote down the eth/btc prices of Link I paid based on exchange data from various platforms, as well as the date in another column. Then I had to look up the prices on each date and make my best guess. (Used the Link historical price info for those dates as well as the Link price in btc or eth I paid and multiplied by the price of btc or eth on that day.) should get you pretty close

>>21030598
its the world's standard

>>21032363
bullish...very bullish

i shouldn't be spoonfeeding (because this is a pretty easy concept to grasp with minimal effort)...but here ya go anyway:

normies/even some anons believe that Chainlink is reaching peak popularity levels due to the perceived increase in wallets MoM/YoY.

What this anon is highlighting is that, while this is true to some extent, LINK has really not reached in-as-many retail investors as the influx of wallet addresses would have you believe.

Big wallets are getting bigger (you just can't see it by simply looking at the largest stacks, due to the aforementioned redistribution of tokens). This is also why 100% of LINK holders are in the green...even sizable stacks are accumulating at these levels.

Soon...the real normie FOMO will occur (but not until LINK makes yet another move...because normies need that kinda reassurance before they "see" a project's potential that doesn't speak to their daily habits/consumer-driven lives).

>>21029308
We told you not to.
I remember that thread.

hey guys whats up?
us link marines right? haha

>>21028849
sorry mate. no holding anymore that much. My bag is at $BRDG now. Same target and the token below 1 cent. >>21028404

>>21032363
Bruh...

>>21028849
got a 170k+ stack on a single trezor, don't get the idea of splitting between wallets, that's just double the amount of seed phrases to secure
although my stack is worth 7 figures plus I don't feel that comfy, I could have had much more had I been paying attention, I had 40k req at one point when it was the same price as link & didn't sell it till it was much less. also missed out on LP early. continually looking at etherscan and kicking myself for not making an effort to get up to 200k. been buying right up to a few weeks ago

>>21029371
https://chainlinkecosystem.com/ranks/
looks like these rankings are regularly updated

>>21028849
my goal a few years back was 10k but i stopped at 7.1k.

Should have kept going during those super cheap days but I'm still very confident.

I told everybody i know to buy chainlink. Some of them with way more money than me. Now i have more money than all of them.

>>21028849
>A top 3000 wallet means at worst 2999 people hold more LINK than you, but likely less than that for the aforementioned reasons.

>Not in top 3000 wallet
>Have twenty 1000 LINK wallets
Looks like you'e in the top 3001 then

>>21032788
Hello fellow REQtie. You have to let go of the past and enjoy what you have. That's multigenerational wealth. Your bloodline will never have to work again.

>>21029308
Excellent reaction gif

>>21028849
Cringe. Just sold some more LINK for AKRO and PNK. Why do some of you still settle for normie coin gains?

>>21028849
The Nigger Store is having a Nigger Sale this Nigger Weekend.

>>21030313
It’s Chinese, based in Malta.

>>21032852
hay dummy

>>21032475
Jokes on you.
I only hold link.

>>21029605

All 13k of my linkies on coinbase

I trust their security and insurance more than I trust my own dumb ass not to lose my keys.

>>21032017
>>21032110
So no proof. Not bothering with the code

>>21032930
I'm actually top 2900.

>>21032852
And they know it. Retarded move.

>>21032852
Yeah, I’m thinkin Based.

>>21031464
>Why would you sell when you will get more rewards from staking
Most people won't have the opportunity to stake with nodes that will turn a solid profit.

>>21035018
what sort of ROE will staking return?

>>21030297
Fyi, Your "cash" is FDIC insured not your crypto fren.

>>21029394
same.. i have 27k but had 34k at one point before i went to bitmex rofl

Top 5000 holder, I'm here to crash the party with. I'll get to 10k once staking is live.

>>21035376
with cope*

>>21035302
Yup, completely understand.

As for crypto assets held with Coinbase: "Please note that the insurance policy covers any losses resulting from a breach of Coinbase's physical security, cyber security, or by employee theft. This insurance policy does not cover any losses resulting from the compromise of your individual Coinbase account. It is your responsibility to use a strong password and maintain control of all login credentials you use to access Coinbase."

>>21035302
>>21035428

Also, just want to clarify that there is a risk associated to storing crypto in any manner. My point was, more so, to detail the risk-benefit analysis of holding from storage type to storage type.

There is no 100% fool-proof way to ensure you don't get fucked, and understanding where those risks lie (from a personal to trusted 3rd party sense) is important in evaluating what's best for the individual.

10 000 adresses hold more link then me, EXPLAIN HOW THE FUCK ITS POSSIBLE FOR ME TO MAKE IT!!!? I FEEL DOOMED, they wont let 8000ppl + make < 2 000 000$

>>21035531
48.6million millionaires in the world. That figure will only grow exponentially, 8000 is a drop in the ocean

>>21035531
>>21035641
This makes me wonder which coins created the largest number of millionaires at their ATH

>>21030165
>>21030297
You don’t belong here

>>21035778
no u

>>21032392
My post btw
Still here btw

I’m not going to lie. These bags are getting pretty heavy.

>tfw 30k stinky linkies

>>21028849
>I was a NEET for 30 years and in one year I both got a job and managed to save over 10K LINK. Now I'm waiting for the opportunity to return to neetdom.
based and neet-pilled
i worked in oil and gas for years doing dangerous work at 65 hours a week vomiting from all the stress of it (oil and gas attracts the most ruthless people in projects)
after years of suffering through that i saved enough to invest into btc, eth, and link early on
my goal is to hold btc forever, stake with my eth stack, and hopefully get income from a link node
i want to make enough to be able to neet forever, or if i'm lucky go back to college and learn what i really find interesting, instead of just "what would make me the most money"
some people just aren't cut out for the work life

>>21036052
Ooooh we got a big boy here!

>>21030139
based rare sergay

>>21029164
>>sry for the reddit spacing
i've always understood "reddit spacing" to be the space between the reply number and the text
eg:

>>21029164

this is reddit spacing

>>21030060
based trump-gey

>>21030297
>also, gotta be honest -- with coinbase you're FDIC insured up to $250k
i heard that's only if it's USD fiat only (and not even USDC)
i'm not 100% but do more research just in case

Is this a cult?

>>21035946
badass

Question, I’m a 6k stacklet, but can afford to invest over $5k a month, should I push to 10k or accumulate pnk?

>>21036052
lawdy son you've already made it
even if you sold 20% to last you for 4 years and hodl the rest you've made it

>>21036794
i've got about an 80% link 20% pnk ratio right now
pnk is much higher risk but a lot more room for growth, but like chainlink it'll be 3-4 years before it reaches a peak value (assuming no crazy bull market)

>>21036052
It's not a bag if you're up on your speculative play against other market alternatives.

>>21028849
ever since Link reached 8 I feel like the make it memes may actually come true. I've started thinking about how to live a life with a lot of money. I'm less worried about certain things, feel more independent.
I feel like a fucking man.
And they say money can't buy happiness.

maybe it can't, but society has been set up in a way that it has certainly become a requirement.

>>21036794
crypto is not an investment, it's a pyramid scheme with the exchanges at the top

>>21037135
money can buy freedom
freedom isn't always a happy thing for some people

>>21035156
wrong way to think about things. This isn't a bank where they'll pay you % interest as an incentive for you to hold Links with them as the purpose of Link is for collateral for high value settlements and to penalize the node operator who has to pay up Link for messing up in delivering data. Not every node will get those kinds of high value jobs. This is literally a new type of business.

I hold a nice stack of 19k LINKs and $9k in shitcoins which I hope will pump 2x so I can buy LINKs and maybe half an LP share. I wish I had more LINKs, but at least im just 20yo so I'm completely ok if I get to $5m net worth by the age of 23.

>>21028849
I have almost 60k LINK and I have this constant fear that it is not enough to really make it. My goal is to retire

>>21037266
so what I'm looking for is a high value pool to stake through, then?

>>21037266
It's shocking to me how many people, for years on end, believe that you can spin up a node and start getting some kind of standardized payout mediating data that you haven't sourced yourself (produced or fetched). Payouts happen according to market dynamics determining prices for specific jobs that nodes will decide to take up, based on the data they are advertising as having to the marketplace or vice-versa (not saying this to you, just to clarify what's really involved).

>>21037427
If you don't want to do any of the work yourself, this is currently the best option.

>>21035428
Is using google 2fa on your phone which isn't rooted and has fingerprint lock secure enough to access Coinbase? I only use my phone for anything Coinbase related since PC seems a lot more vulnerable than a stock OnePlus 7 Pro with no 3rd party APKs installed.

>>21037427
Excuse me ma'am, have you heard of LinkPool?

>>21028849
After moving 8,000 LINK to Coinbase for arbitrage, I now have slightly more than 10,000 LINK in my offline paper wallet.

I sold 1,000 LINK a couple of days ago after it hit $9.40 when it dipped to $9.16 because I wanted to take profits before the dump back down to $6, but then lost power at my house (I'm posting from my side girl's friends' house), and am happy to see that LINK continues to bump up against the $10 ceiling -- which is soon to be the $10 floor.

I am *never* selling the last 10,000 LINK in my cold wallet; those are for staking only, and 50% of my staking profits from those LINK will be invested back into that wallet. I will *never* again own less than 10k LINK, and my word is bond.

Check these digits to confirm that LINK will hit $10 before the end of this month, then hit $10+X at some point during each subsequent month, where X is the number of months which have passed since this month.

We are entering a new era, friends, where we shall have more money than we can spend living twice as well as we are living now. Stay safe, fellow 10k baglets, for we are going to be financially among the wealthiest 0.1% of the world's population in a few decades, as long as we cleverly manage our resources, avoid bad investments (such as wives, restaurants, stupid hobbies and expensive rent), exploit good trades, and, above all, HODL 10,000 LINK FOREVER!!!!!

>t. link jesus

>im actually in the top 5k wallets with my babby stack
What the fuck? I always thought there were thousands of people behind these years worth of link threads on /biz/ alone
Was it always just... a few hundred? How many of the top 5k do you think are from /biz/?
Jesus a yacht party wouldn't even be that crowded would it

t. prolly wouldn't be invited with a measly 5k

>>21038167
>I will *never* again own less than 10k LINK, and my word is bond.
based and going to make it pilled

>>21038375
anyone with over 100 link will be welcome
eventually they'll be millionaires too, you know

>>21038167
based.

we are the 10k link marines. our word is bond

>tfw sold my 10k stack before we ever hit $1

I really believed in link too. any chance in xrp like they say

>>21030297
FDIC insurance means they'll refund you 250k if there is a hack. What if your crypto is worth more than that? Well you get fucking nothing. Do not leave your shit on an exchange.

>>21038913
>sold link
>buys xrp
Anon, I...

ALL OF YOU ARE INVITED TO MY PARTY!
>>21036689

>>21038957
I didn't sell the link for xrp I would have never sold link for another coin. I sold in like august of 2018 and went into fiat to pay some bills off like a retard. I kept a couple hundred link on mm and still have that. I bought xrp a couple weeks ago though.

>>21028849
Is 3k enough to post in here?

>Had 10k link at one point
>Now left with 100 euros
>never invested my own money though but fuck me I'm so unlucky
FUCK WHY? WHYYYYY?
Meh whatever. I'd rather not have a job than be rich. Fuck wageslavery.

Why does link decrease when all the big coins increases in value

>>21030711
He doesn't mean only 500 10k stacks, rather that there are 500 people with 10k and about 1000 more holding greater amounts. I'm 30k which makes me top 1200 give or take. There are about 300 others in my range.

>>21038926
You don’t get nothing. You get 250k.

>>21037266
worth it to pick up a fraction of a linkpool node then? even just 0.04?

Based and larperpilled

Imagine the yacht. Imagine the smell.

>>21035708
Probably the one that has been around the longest. Btc

>>21032788
We all feel the same. I have more money than ever, by orders of magnitude, and still kick myself for not following my instinct to pick up 70k. My 30k will serve well, and realistically be more than enough. It's just a matter of time and where us early marines have paid the price has been through waiting. The madness of certainty as we wait for the world to catch up.

>>21037204
Very eloquently put

>>21036052
BIG BOY

>>21028849
It's still a very small club.

>>21034701
Not really. I did the same thing. Now I have 3 clients that I manage crypto portfolios for and I no longer work a 9-5.

>>21039464
>I’m sorry sir, but our insurance policy only covers people with up to $250k
>and it looks like you have $251k worth of crypto
>I regretfully must inform you that the insurance doesn’t apply to you
>have a terrific day

>>21039669
For real. Tapping out at 72k.... wish I kept pushing for 100

>>21039963
J U S T

>>21037467
>110iq.jpg
Yeah and if a big boy data provider wants to have the juiciest contracts they will need as much link as possible.
Option A: market buy link
Option B: lend it from me for a small fee

don't care if you think I'm larping or not. I picked up 250k link in early 2018. I told 150k link at $2, to pay off my house. I still have 100k, and never selling. Will always regret selling earlier, but I still make 300k profit and have 100k link

20k. Was a NEET for five years but started working to buy more back in 2017/18. Making decent money now at my current job so I have no reason to sell until I'm ready to retire (assuming making a living off of staking doesn't pan out). I'm extremely comfy right now.

>>21030139
Hi Jamie

>>21032830
same here anon (7.2k). started buying at 20-50 cents but stopped for a while and then coinbase pumped it past where i was willing to buy. hopefully we make it.

#1598 here
I've slipped quite a few spots, used to be 5940 something a year ago. Guess the big boys are accumulating

>>21028849

>>21032608
I love you.

>>21032110
>very large whales have been splitting/re-consolidating their wallets over time to make it look like they were selling/buying.
>Also creating almost empty new wallets to make it look like more and more people are buying
Why do you think this is bullish? Seems like it could indicate that a small number of whales are faking volume and manipulating the price. Wouldn't this be a bad sign? I'm not trying to fud, just a brainlet trying to comprehend all this

>>21028849

Top 350 wallet w/ 93k.. didn't realize it was that big of a deal until a friend pointed out that I'd be considered a whale by most standards. Still feels weird to say that.

I bought majority early 2018 after crash at 39c, then accumulated more near $1. Currently right under 7 figures and pumped to break that milestone.

My parents worked hard their whole lives for money and I'm just glad I will be able to take care of them. When this bull market actually takes off I'll skim 10-20% to buy them a house, retire, and have fun. I'll stake the rest and continue to ride this rocket to the a different galaxy.

>>21028849
15k reporting

the lower boundary for whaledom seems to be about 40k. double comfy. very few with this amount or more.

>>21042438
Soon a whale will be under 10k

>>21040108
I never disputed this, which is why I suggested that the best option for most people is simply using a pooling service (the first in a soon to be long line of derivative services and markets structured around the chainlink ecosystem). My issue is with the completely misled vision many people have in their mind of how running a node, 'staking', and payouts relate to one another.

took out a $20K loan and threw it all at stinkies at $2.38
still havent sold