/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20847116
You shouldn't post fake news anon.. Charles is obsessed with Harmony's whitepaper. Look at his twitter posts in pic related. That's why I dumped all my ADA for ONE the other day. They actually have smart contracts and support Solidity/EVM, and staking has been working for months. Cardano might be worth a look in a few years when(IF) they catch up.

>>20847180
fake news? I posted fuck harmony and i stand by it, that's not news lmao

>>20847239
I guess you disagree with Charles, and/or don't trust his opinion on technical matters. That's fair. It took him 4 years to deliver basic staking. Either way, he seems to love Harmony's technical papers.

>>20847058
>>20847086
>>20847180
Ethereum cannot scale thats a fact. The ETH 2.0 roll out is protracted and convoluted, not too mention that the technology they are working on is inferior and antiquated in comparison to Cardano. There is an atmosphere of ambiguity as to when the Ethereum development team will release a fully working product. If ETH 2.0 launches too early there will be without a doubt a series of disastrous catastrophic errors and bugs that will severally impact the confidence of users and investors. If they release ETH 2.0 too late they are going be left behind. Cardano has already developed a superior network that's orders of magnitude more technologically advanced than Ethereum 2.0. The ETH development team are working on an insurmountable task. Personally my own experience of using Ethereum has been overall a negative one, where the majority of the time I have to pay exorbitant amounts of money in gas fees only for my transactions to get stuck pending for one hour. If people that are technologically literate hate using Ethereum what will normies think of it when they clog the network trying to trade imaginary cats.

>>20847180
>Obsessed
>One tweet
You're the obsessed one. How many Cardano FUD posts have you made? You spread FUD in every single Cardano thread you see.

>>20847298
You are like a deranged mentally ill stalker serial killer nutfag

>>20847330
>not too mention
>If ETH 2.0 launches too early there will be without a doubt
>can't calculate a gas fee but wants a haskell based language
anon.. I.. you should just find a new hobby. you got scammed by an academic larper.

>>20847388
>>20847344
You brought up Harmony, Charles made those statements supporting it.. I pointed them out so you are aware of his statments supporting the design.. and you sperg out because you don't like the reality of it.

who's an obsessed schizo?

>>20847395
>can't calculate a gas fee
Gas fees are set by highest bidder faggot.
The more congested the network the higher the gas fee.

>>20847441
Neither of the ones you quoted mentioned Harmony. I've never made any comments if I like Charles' stance on Harmony. I've never spread FUD about it.
Is this real life?

>>20847441
I never brought up harmony one. But you know what,
He's right. Fuck Harmony one.

>>20847395
You probably won't watch this
https://youtu.be/MpWeg6Fg0t8?t=553

>>20847527
Nothing related to Cardano is real life. That's the problem. Come back in 2 years when smart contracts are finished, tested and released on mainnet in REAL LIFE

>>20847527
He probably changed his IP, posted that himself as a bait for himself to then bring up a topic. The guys a fucking nutcase I wouldn't rule it out

>>20847574
It's impossible to reach through. How does one even communicate?

>>20847180
https://cointelegraph.com/news/charles-hoskison-reveals-his-9-favorite-crypto-projects

ERGO, ZCASH, STARKWARE, LIGHTNING LABS, DASH, TEZOS, ALGORAND, AVALANCHE, BAT.

NO, he doesn't like that shitcoin called harmony.

>>20847665
Through the typewriter from the Shining
That's probably the only thing he understands

>>20847058
jesus fuck my cowardly anon, you get btfo
>>20845165
and you just copy-pasta it in a new thread. it's all so tiresome. should I just copy-paste my entire btfo'ing of you into this stupid thread?

>>20847825
I guess Cardano fanbois are experts at denying reality when it is directly in front of their faces.

>>20847058
hi harmony fag, well at least you've proven that you aren't here with your reddit-tier memes for honest debate. but we knew that already, didn't we
>Cardano not having smart contracts on mainnet for over 2 years
false. Cardano has smart contracts coming to mainnet in the next 5 months

>>20847906
Critical mistake

don't give a fuck if Charles likes that shitcoin, fuck harmony lmao

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20845480
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

Let's continue with your copy-paste harmony shill fudding, shall we
>What can Cardano bring to the table except more claims of academic superiority?
ad-homenim. you are raging anon. does it upset you that Ouroboros is the de-facto standard in Proof of Stake blockchain design for the scientific community now? Cardano's approach has paid off in spades. By embracing the scientific and peer review approaches, cardano has folded in the best and brightest minds in cryptography and computer language design, and because these are incentivized by publication and because cardano laid the foundations for the scientific peer-reviewed approach with blockchain tech, ouroboros now owns that space... for free. And now cardano reaps the rewards of researchers all over the world buliding on the protocol and improving it, for free. I am sorry this triggers you.
>In the real world this smacks of appeal to authority
boy you're salty

Buy a real staking coin! Initial masternodes will have a 4000% ROI and that's being conservative. Long live ANKER

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20845734
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>How will they launch... on mainnet
It's just work anon. There are well over 100 engineers working on this, and the shelly team will be rolling into the Gougen team after august to get this done. I wonder what your fud will look like as the inevitable approaches.
>an as-yet-untested smart contract execution
platform
no my salty harmony shill, both Plutus and Marlowe have been extensively tested and studied for the past 5 years. One of the gods of Haskell is on the job, so the types of disasters that occured in the design of solidity will not be happening in Plutus and Marlowe. For those who want to know more (not you, you disingenuous thread-deleting-when-you-get-crushed faggot) please see this:
Functional smart contracts on Cardano - presentation from the Cardano virtual summit
>https://youtu.be/MpWeg6Fg0t8

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20845798
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>on a mainnet that is just about to start becoming decentralized
yeah anon, 400+ stake pools live after 1 day. First blocks produced by those stake pools in 8 days. You are going to have to update your copypasta then. I look forward to it.

>>20847058
This picture is so cringe. Trying to link Cardano to reddit when the eth fanboys there censor Cardano posts, peak retardation

>>20847058
All of this spergy Cardano fudding is so fucking bullish. I am staked and ready for the first blocks. sage goes in all fields

>>20848056
If they spent half the time they spent onmarketing collateral actually trying to build something useful...

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20845954
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>talk developers into learning a Haskell based language
okay butthurt harmony faggot. Plutus and marlowe are subsets of haskell. Haskell devs will have zero problems using either. Marlowe brings a graphical programming interface to finance-domain-experts. they don't even need to be programmers to use it.
for those interested (not this butthurt harmony shill) see this clip.
https://youtu.be/MpWeg6Fg0t8?t=456 [Embed]
start at 7min 38 seconds
>that isn't even finished yet
languages are never "finished", even you know better than that

>>20847058
this is the fun part... I get to do it all over again
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20845982
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>based on languages people already know
nobody uses haskell, right anon?

>>20848128
>There will be no smart contracts on mainnet for 2 years.
>They have not even finished designing and testing their new "haskell style" smart contract language
>It will almost certainly flop like every other Haskell derived language.
>Many new platforms are already live with blazing performance metrics and everything Cardano is claiming they will deliver(for 4 years)
>Developers have already bought into Solidity and EVM.
>Cardano will be on the sidelines during the entire defi wave.

>>20847058
oh no, I forgot the picture. guess I'll just have to post again in the harmony shill's cardano fud thread. and look, I already posted this over here
>>20845954
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>talk developers into learning a Haskell based language
okay butthurt harmony faggot. Plutus and marlowe are subsets of haskell. Haskell devs will have zero problems using either. Marlowe brings a graphical programming interface to finance-domain-experts. they don't even need to be programmers to use it.
for those interested (not this butthurt harmony shill) see this clip.
https://youtu.be/MpWeg6Fg0t8?t=456 [Embed]
start at 7min 38 seconds
>that isn't even finished yet
languages are never "finished", even you know better than that

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20846008
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>based on languages people already know
nobody uses haskell, right anon?
how will haskell devs write code in haskell

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20846037
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread

>based on languages people already know
nobody uses haskell, right anon?
haskell is dead, right anon?

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20846068
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread.

>based on languages people already know
nobody uses haskell, right anon?
except AT&T

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20846148
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread.

>based on languages people already know
nobody uses haskell, right anon?
gee, I wonder if any of those Bank of America haskell devs might want to play with writing some smart contracts on a platform that they can just jump right into... gee, i wonder.
>https://www.coindesk.com/cardano-developer-iohk-launches-20m-fund-for-ecosystem-startups
nah, those haskell devs won't be interested in grabbing a bit of that development fund money to build out any pet ideas they've been mulling around... surely not.

ADA fags fucking seething. Spend more on this squinting retards project

>>20847058
oh look, I already posted this over here
>>20846194
as well, gee I wonder why you started a new thread.

>based on languages people already know
nobody uses haskell, right anon?
except haskell devs working in Barclay's. I'm sure they won't have any ideas ready for quick deployment on a god-tier haskell-based blockchain... nah, surely not

>>20848297
no anon, just wondering what it takes to get this harmony shill to behave himself. you salty anon?

>>20848312
>has never written a smart contract in any language
>doesn't know a single thing about haskell
>posts marketing material

>>20848328
Nothing will. Unfortunately we can't just ignore his fud because some people will actually believe it

>>20848415
It's hard to dispute the fact that Cardano is a failure in many areas including:
>trying to design smart contracts from scratch with a new language
this never works.. see steve jobs dark years
>hiring a team of "academics" to spin their wheels and experiment when the rest of the world is delivering
>failed to instill confidence by missing every deadline they ever set for themselves
The only supporters are a revolving cast of midwit moonbois that want to feel smart by association but are retarded enough to fall for charles' fake academic larping.
Same as last time it pumped on an earlier Shelley "announcement".. it will bleed back to 2 cents and top buyers will panic the entire way down.

>>20848374
>posts marketing material
actually anon, I made those about a year ago using photoshop and CorelDraw with emphasis on the Comic Sans - took me about 15 minutes. i've been on this board longer then you. nice deflection from your spanking though.