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>Bullion dealers
https://apmex.com/
https://jmbullion.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://bgasc.com/
https://providentmetals.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://goldenstatemint.com/
https://gainesvillecoins.com/
https://silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://sprottmoney.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed] [Embed]
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo
Magnets
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

Morgan
https://youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA
https://youtube.com/user/GoldAndSilverClub1
https://youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
https://youtube.com/channel/UCED7G7CZfqdSV9zttlr1M_g
https://youtube.com/user/belangp

Additional /pmg/ resources and info--
https://pastebin.com/8HW6EdGt

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>>20710467
Never forget.

>> No.20710499

>>20710467
Its happened, I was there

>> No.20710512

Whyd you scratch the shit out of your barrel?

>> No.20710517

>tfw liquidating my last £250 to buy PMs

Am I taking this too far? I just can't bear to let the COMEX open in 17 hours before buying more, because I know prices are going to go up in the meantime and leave me kicking myself.

>> No.20710528

/pmg/ got forked. This thread seems proper.

>> No.20710529 [DELETED] 

FWTDHW Status: Nudging napping husband asking if they have any good.
"Ugnnrgghh yes in ETFs honey."

>> No.20710539

Regarding SLV, I think the most likely scenario is that when the wheels start to fall off, they close the fund and cash everyone out at current spot price. Paper holders will miss the moon mission.

>> No.20710554

>>20710467
>he called out the jew
Nice

>> No.20710559

>>20710528
The other one was made buy that (((guy))) shilling paper nonstop

>> No.20710566

FWTDHW Status: Nudging napping husband asking if they have any gold.
"Ugnnrgghh yes in ETFs honey."

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>>20710497

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Thoughts? Anything that doesn't meet budget skips until I can buy a full share.

>> No.20710581

>>20710539

Just getting in early so that I can repeat this from the last thread.

"GLD and SLV will get delisted soon, and the people here who are foolishly buying options on them will lose everything. This video will explain it all to you in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY&feature=emb_title

You should be doing either one or both of two things,

1) Buying physical coins to hold in your possession,

2) Buying the GDXJ and SILJ mining indexes on the stock market.

Chris Marcus interviewed over a hundred people in the PM industry for his book "The Big Silver Short," and, when he would ask each one how many owners there are for each paper ounce of silver, he never got an answer lower than 500."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD6yjimNno

>> No.20710583

>>20710559
Ah yes, the CSW of Silver.

>> No.20710615

>>20710399
What a stupid weapon to own. I'll take a 9mm with 15+ shots over your "I'M A BIG BOY" 5 shooter any day.

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since lots of stackers here are preparing for a SHTF scenario, what would you put in your bug out bag, /pmg/? (obviously aside from neatly packed PMs)

>> No.20710637

>>20710567
kek that was a good thread

>> No.20710640

I can't enter the mind of ((that faggot)). However, newbies:

Don't buy rounds at a higher price than you can get a 100 oz from Scottsdale in either 10oz or 100 oz form. Right now that's like ~26.

>> No.20710688

>>20710615
Let me guess: you still play a lot of Call of Duty?

>> No.20710710

>>20710620
water sticks, and a pot to boil water in,change of clothes always keep one so you can filter water in

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>>20710620
I'm grabbing this, and jumping out of a boat with it.

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I would suck at least 1 peepee for this coin

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Meant to post this one but I forgot

>> No.20710751

>>20710721
I like that square tube-shaped Scottsdale bar, fren.

>> No.20710758

>>20710570
Seems good that you have a budget anon. IDK what else to say.

>>20710620
A spare firearm or two, ammo ofc, some water but not too much because its kinda heavy, those water purifying straws, a small pot/pan, jerky/granola/other nonperishable foods, flashlight and batteries, mini solar charger, medkit, blanket/sleeping bag, matches/magnifying glass, watch/compass. That would be a stuffed bag, maybe I'd have more than one lol.

>> No.20710761

>>20710730
like now, or when shtf

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>>20710761
Like now. I need it for my collection.
I would offer my booty hole if was during the collapse and some dude rolled up with that coin.
Very rare.

>> No.20710801

>>20710744
how much silver is actually in these coins?? i have a suicase that weighs 20 pounds chocked full of those whale dimes, brit coins and silver dollars

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So do I really have to take profit in my SLV just in case? I want more exposure to the commodity, not miners. I guess PSLV and PHYS might be good alternatives for SLV and GLDM?

>>20710581
>Alasdair Macleod says, “I think the problems with the currency are going to happen by the end of this year. I think the problems of the COMEX are going to happen considerably before that. I think they are going to be tied into a wider banking crisis. A banking crisis is certain. I cannot see how it can be avoided. . . . If our end point is the purchasing power of the dollar goes to zero, then you can see $1,800 for the price of gold and $19 for the price of silver is chicken crap compared to where it’s going to go. So, this is a major, major move that is happening, not because they are buying gold and silver so much, but because people are beginning to realize what is happening to the purchasing power of the dollar, pound, euro and so on and so forth. That is the thing to keep in mind. . . . I think the dollar will be destroyed by year end, and the price of gold and silver is infinity. . . . I think the banking crisis could start in a month. Look what’s happening to their balance sheets. . . . I think the collapse is likely to be so rapid that in the absence of any other information, the best thing to do is to hold on to gold and silver as an insurance policy just in case I am right.”

All these doomsayers are really hard to believe, because they always insist that the USD is on the verge of collapsing. How many years can you hear that the collapse of civilization is really happening this year before you start to question these people and their obsession? The USD still looks like the sturdiest house on the fault-line.

>>20710539
interesting, not sure I believe it, wish I could really understand the argument.

>> No.20710865

>>20710620
>shampoo
>no water purifying tablets

>> No.20710871

>>20710640
>Tfw I snatched up a 100-oz Scottsdale stackee for a total of $1738 during the March dip
Feels so fucking good

>> No.20710880

>>20710792
I think if you lowered your prices. Like two or three peepees for the coin you might have some more luck.

>> No.20710895

>>20710517
Unless you are 100% certain about a move and are 100% certain about its timing, you should never be in a situation without some cash. You never know when an unexpected expense will arise and the worst thing you can do is to buy an asset high and be forced to sell it low to get liquidity for expenses.

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>>20710801
This is the original

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I was sad because yall rejected my based thread and want to use the pozzed thread so I made a smashburger. And now I'm onboard. Paying 20% or even 42% premiums on physical silver is smart it's stupid to get 30% more silver because force majuere et al. Per sliver ratio contract expunged documents of audit Securities exchange commission exception exculpatory rule. Buy physical silver on discount today

>> No.20710960

>>20710512
Combination of practicing my drawstroke and being a fucking retard when replacing my front sight

>> No.20710963

>>20710806

Alisdair Macleod does not make predictions lightly. He is a highly sensible and intelligent man, and this is the first time he has predicted something like this.

>> No.20710965

>Belly full from blackberry pancake, bacon, and egg breakfast wife made me
>PMG open in one tab, Legend of the Galactic Heroes playing in the other tab
>Silver futures market opens in 1.5 hours

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>>20710620
Good quality axe. It can be used as a knife, hatchet and weapon.

>> No.20710987

>>20710965
comfy

>> No.20711038

Just getting in early so that I can repeat this from the last thread.

"GLDJ and SILJ will get delisted soon, and the people here who are foolishly buying options on them will lose everything. This video will explain it all to you in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY&feature=emb_title [Embed]

You should be doing either one or both or neither of two things,

1) Buying EFTs to hold in your possession,

2) Buying the GOLD and SLV stocks and EFTs on the stock market.

Chris Marcus interviewed over a hundred people in the anime futa industry for his book "The Big Silver Shorty Pants," and, when he would ask each one how many owners there are for each mercury dime, he never got an answer lower than 500."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD6yjimNno [Embed]

>> No.20711047

>>20710581
>>20710806
Futures contract sellers are legally required to deliver the silver if the buyer demands it. The fact that there's more paper silver than real silver only means that, if for some reason the buyers want it settled by physical metal rather than the equivalent money, the prices of those futures will go through the roof just before expiry. If anything that's bullish for SLV, physical metals, AND the futures if you think everyone will insist on taking delivery of the bar.
For SLV, fraud would be easy for the market to detect because if the NAV ever fluctuates wildly from the market capitalization, then the authorized participants wouldn't be redeeming silver for shares (if the silver is fake). So if you see a wide difference between the NAV and market price of SLV that wouldn't be profitable for arbitrage (keeping in mind there'd be expenses involved with storage and transportation to make this play), THEN you would have evidence that either JP Morgan or the authorized participant banks are perpetuating fraud. And then people will be going to jail for fraud.

>> No.20711067

>>20710806
>So do I really have to take profit in my SLV just in case?
My personal feeling is no. The past one or two weeks has seen a pretty strong run up so we're likely to see a short term correction. If you think you're skilled enough, you can try to trade that correction. However, I believe that the precious metals have finally caught the attention of some institutional investors and a flood of new retail "investors". With the central banks continuing to depreciate their currencies through all sorts of asset purchases, it seems to me that precious metals are one of the few assets remaining that really haven't entered a bubble yet.

I would hold on to my silver and wouldn't consider selling until it breaks $40/ozt. I wrote a posting two or three days ago discussing a selling plan for silver. When the price goes parabolic, that's when people really should consider selling at least a portion of their silver to lock in a profit.

>> No.20711070

>>20710960
you need to get some brass/nylon punches nigga

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>>20710751
I don't want to talk about it. Last time, one ended up in someone's ass, and I'm pretty sure the guy died. Scottsdale Mint will probably get banned from selling them for that.

>> No.20711146

>>20710581
By delisted, I assume you mean SLV will pay out current price to all holders? No idea what happens to option holders then.

I don't see SLV holders getting nothing if everyone runs to the exits. It's an I share fund, which is owned by BlackRock. BlackRock literally has an unlimited mandate from the Federal Reserve to provide cash to distressed assets, so if they are really only 500:1 silver backed, they can just brrrrrrrt to make themselves whole.

>yes, you heard that right, SLV is owned by BlackRock which has been granted the power by the fed to brrrrrrrt their own assets.

>> No.20711168

>>20710940
Grandpa, please give it a rest. There's nothing wrong with telling people about buying things like SLV, PSLV, or CEF to get exposure to silver without paying the hefty premiums currently being charged for coins, rounds, and even bars. But your calling people stupid is just insulting, adds nothing of value to the conversation, and isn't going to help inexperienced investors who don't know much about buying and selling precious metals and PM financial instruments.

>> No.20711202

>>20711146
Any eta on the delisting? I have calls 1 to 2 months out.

>> No.20711207

>>20711168
Don't correct him, let him keep insulting them so they'll do the opposite and trade their fiat for real money

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>>20711047
>NOOO you can't just get rich leveraging price appreciation you have pay me huge premiums for stacks of coins and hope the price never corrects to below what you bought it when you're left a bagholder for years

>> No.20711248

>>20711108
so scotsdale is the best company to buy from?

>> No.20711273

>>20711202
delisting imminent

>> No.20711289

>>20710986
Also can be used as a hammer and a flathead screwdriver if you need to fix something.

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>>20711202
There are no plans for delisting, we are just speculating.

>> No.20711309

>>20710801
90% silver coins $1.40 face value = ~1ozt

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I haven’t been on /pmg/ since that shit show thread full of politics and shilling
Is the coast clear, bro’s?

>> No.20711318

>>20711146
You have to acquire 75% of SLV to delist it, as well. That's a lot of money just to cash everyone out.

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>>20710467
MA IM IN THE SCREEN CAP IM INTERNET FAMOUS NOW!

>>20710136
the fact that the actual price of PM's verses the "spot" price is so different just shows how manipulated the markets are. I cannot even think of another asset that has such a divergence between paper/physical.

>> No.20711357

>>20710517
I admire the spirit lad, but you definitely want to hold enough cash to keep you liquid. The whole point of PMs is that they aren't very liquid, they're a safe store of wealth, but that will bite you in the ass living in the current economic system when you actually have to buy something.

>> No.20711358

>>20711038
>"GLDJ and SILJ will get delisted soon
I'm not going to watch the video since I haven't got time but I'm assuming GLDJ and SILJ are ETFs containing baskets of junior gold miners and junior silver miners, respectively. Barring a massive fraud where the issuer of the ETF isn't actually buying shares of junior miners to back up each share of the respective ETF, there's nothing wrong with the ETFs.

There are not 2x or 3x leveraged ETFs which got totally destroyed thanks to high volatility in February and March of this year.

For these ETFs to go bust, every junior mining stock they hold would have to go bust first.

>> No.20711359

>>20711313
No. It isn't.

>> No.20711360

>>20710801
For American coinage, the trick is to take your face value, and multiple it by .715 to get your silver content in TOz

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>>20710940
so we posting food?
damn i wish i had some sprouts for my sandwwichs

>> No.20711378

>>20711297
Ah, ok. After the calls are done I'll stick with the miners. I have physical too at home just in case(5oz gold, 100oz silver).

>> No.20711379

>>20710581
Very nice vid, thank you

>> No.20711381

>>20710517
keep cash on hand anon... dont be a retard who invests every penny, then has to sell their investments to pay for essentials.

stack food/water, housing, guns, PMs, anime, in that order

>> No.20711388

>>20711360
thats for 90% percent

>> No.20711389

>>20711378
Rather gold heavy, aren’t you anon?

>> No.20711393

>>20710581
Is Avino silver and gold mines AVM worth it at 1$ a share? How risky is it and what can I expect looking out the next few months? I started stacking silver since December thanks to these threads. I was looking at getting into buying some miners. I know nothing about them. I have some shares of SILJ already.

>> No.20711426

>>20710806
Right, like I can't base my holdings here totally on the possibility of the USD collapsing. If the USD collapses, no amount of silver I can feasibly stack before then will save me. I'm holding physical just to have some, but very much still in on SLV January calls for the huge potential upside. It's well worth the risk IMO considering a measly $2k in calls would be worth $100k if silver hits $50.

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>>20711168
Unlike you shills I want silver to go up. Q for you el stupido, if a guy can get 130 ounces silver instead of 100 ounces and hes planning on keeping it forever that 30 extra ounces is gone from supply which is bullish. That's what I want everyone here to get 30 extra ounces free and you are shilling against it. Why shlomo? Er I mean why la stupida?

>> No.20711430

>>20711377
Checked
When’s yukaribro coming to lunch post for us baka

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>>20710806
>How many years can you hear that the collapse of civilization is really happening this year before you start to question these people and their obsession? The USD still looks like the sturdiest house on the fault-line.


I agree, many of the people have been saying this for many years.

>>20710896
NOOO NOT MY OC!!! YOU NEED TO SUBSCRIBE TO MY ONLYFANS FOR THAT!

>> No.20711450

>>20710517
U shud rly keep some cash for food anon. I know fiat is bad but it still has a place for day 2 day stuff until hyperinflation kicks in.

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>>20710801
not much, you should sell them to me at 50$ a pound.

please do not look them up here http://coinapps.com/silver/coin/canadian/calculator/

>> No.20711479

>>20710620
Bugging out is for retards. Bugging in is for adults.

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>>20711248
I really like everything they make, but you might be able to find it cheaper from one of the bullion retailers.

>> No.20711490

>>20711377
Do you make your own sprouts?

>> No.20711494

>>20711426
Don't you get it? The $100k is not the thing you want. The $100k dollars worth of silver in your possession is the thing you want

>> No.20711498

>>20711389
I started on March. Had 10k in savings at the time and dumped it in gold. Went for the Lady Fortuna. It felt appropriate.

>> No.20711508

any good deals on pjhysical? also any miners?

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>>20711498
Post those sexy pamps

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Haha I just got a 0% interest credit card with a $3,000 limit
I'm just going to do a balance transfer, pull that cash at the (((bank))) and throw it behind gold and silver.
>$1,900 for ONE OUNCE of gold
>$1,100 silver
Very diverse

>> No.20711518

>>20711357
Completely wrong. PMs are the incredibly reliable and liquid.

>> No.20711519

>>20710940
Nice burger. I had a mini numimistic orgasm, but will come home to bars soon enough. I just had to get a kook

>> No.20711523

>>20711393

My favourite list of the best ten miners is here: >>20703815. I own Avino and have recommended it before; it has good fundamentals. An enormous amount of silver in the ground, as well as copper. The only downside is that they had some protests from their workers recently. That is where you see the price collapse briefly in the chart. In that respect, caveat emptor.
https://informadordedurango.com/index.php/2020/07/13/estallan-huelga-en-mina-de-san-jose-avino-durango/

>>20711379

You're welcome.

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>>20711436
fuck forgot to add, "that does not make them wrong, most have not been putting hard dates on collapse of fiat, only pointing out it has ALWAYS collapsed"

>> No.20711566

>>20711494
In an absolute SHTF situation, yes. I certainly do hold a nice stacklet of physical. But I'm in on both, $100k fiat will still be very useful in a few months time, even if the purchasing power of the dollar is lower. Even if I put every penny I have rn into a physical silver stack, there's no way I could accumulate enough to hit the equivalent of $100k fiat even IF silver hits $50.

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rubbing intensifies

>> No.20711602

>>20711342
>spot
Is it not unreasonable that you would pay less of a premium on 5,000 oz of silver that you would have to go to London to pick up than a 1oz ASE delivered to your door?

>> No.20711609

>>20710688
No. But what are you even implying?

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>>20711490
not yet but i think its not that hard once you get started. i might try it some day.
i fucking love sprouts

>> No.20711636

>>20711523
Thanks for the information. I think I’ll buy a couple hundred and see what happens. Do you turn your mining stock profit into physical?

>> No.20711657

>>20711428
*sigh* I was really hoping you'd stay in the thread you were pushing. You're an old man who probably live off a diet of dog food because he has been unsuccessful in his working career. For a person who claims to have 50+ years trading precious metals, you are remarkably ignorant about why people are willing to pay a premium to take physical possession of precious metals.

You've got nothing useful to say so this is the last time I'll reply to you. Perhaps you know what counterparty risk is? Learn something for once in your pathetic life.

For everybody else, I recommend everybody hold precious metals in multiple forms if they have enough money. They should have some PMs in their physical possession, they should have some that is allocated in their name in a vault (GoldMoney, BullionVault), and they should have some that is traded through trusts (PHYS, GLD, SLV, PSLV, CEF).

Each of those forms has an advantage. Physical possession protects you against any sort of management malfeasance but you bear the burden of keeping it safe and buying and selling it isn't as convenient as a paper instrument. The allocated metals will protect you in the unlikely event of a government confiscation (don't store the metals in a country known for confiscation) and are a bit more convenient to buy and sell than physical metals that you possess. Finally, the trusts are even easier to trade but ownership of the metals is in the trust so if something bad happens, you and the other investors in the paper will have to figure out who owns what.

>> No.20711665

>>20711609
That you're not a wheelgunboomer probably

>> No.20711705

>>20711543
It's going to collapse they say about the most desirable currency with the largest gold reserves largest economy most powerful military best geography self sufficient in food and energy etc. Chicken littles. It will degrade though

>> No.20711727

>>20711665
Wheel guns are inferior to automatics in every way EXCEPT that wheel guns are easier to operate if you're inexperienced.

>> No.20711749

>>20711636

You're welcome. I expect some of my mining stocks to go 50x or 100x, so I'm not selling any of them in a hurry. Don Durrett explains in this interview (timestamp 4:30) that, in a PM bull market, you almost never sell a mining stock. He explains the best exit strategy as well, which is selling on the way up in gradual increments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xqFD1qVtE.. But when he says up, he really does mean up. As for what I will do with the profits, yes, I will probably convert them to segregated bullion, which I will store in different vaults in as many different countries as possible.

>> No.20711767

>>20711623
goddamn that looks so fucking good
I'm not even 3 days into my fast and I already want to lick the screen.

I also now want a job so I can buy more silver. Can I see those fractional rounds?

>> No.20711771

>>20711727
I love my wheelgun and have automatics as well. I just carry the .357

>> No.20711780

>>20711705
> largest gold reserves

Are going to post an audit of Fort Knox for us, like you did for Shitty SLV in the last thread, hmm?

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Reminder that we`re in the red circle area if we`re measuring the bull market from bear market bottom, and green circle area if we`re measuring from SPX initial drop. The truth is likely something in between, either way we`re going to see extreme volatility, and likely 50% swings to the downsides. From what level is unknown.

>> No.20711792

>>20710581
just liquidated my crypto and bought more miners and physical

>> No.20711809

>>20711602
You are telling me it costs more to ship 1oz to me and run the website that sold it then to pay for the 5000 oz bar's safe/building to store, the guards to protect it, ect ect?

Paper claims on PM's are not pms, there are between 150 (low end, conservative, total bullshit) to 500+ (reasonably accurate) paper "oz" per real oz of pm held by those funds

>> No.20711811

>>20711514
Give me some time, got to get them out of the safe.

>> No.20711814

>>20711771
If you like it it's fine. Also possible exception for snub noses being fired from a pocket.

>> No.20711826

how do i get into collecting junk silver? what coins should i be looking for if im starting out (so far i only have like 100oz of silver coins)?

>> No.20711845

>>20711814
revolvers dont automatically eject cases to leave as evidence at the scene of the crime

>> No.20711863

>>20711780
Haha tell us when the currency is going to collapse shlomodaumus and take your meds

>> No.20711866

>>20711826
look for all dimes quaters half dollars dollars made in 1964 and before,nickels made from 1943 to 1945 ,and half dollars made from 65 to 70

>> No.20711874

>>20711809
It absolutely costs less. The seller of a fuures contract tells you which bank vault to show up to and collect the bars and then you're on your own, it's not their problem beyond that point.
It's extremely expensive for someone who is a retail seller to actually deliver you 5,000 oz of silver but those dumb asses are the same kinds of peoole who got hosed from oil futures turning negative a few months ago.

>> No.20711888

>>20711845
Don't your bullets get left at the scene and their trajectories can easily triangulate where you stood and what type of gun you had by type of bullet?

>> No.20711893

>>20711826
even junk silver has high premiums these days. you have to shop around and scour the internet for the lowest prices.
unless you have a local coin shop you can buy from

>> No.20711901

>>20711809

This is retardation. Its 1 to 1

>Paper claims on PM's are not pms, there are between 150 (low end, conservative, total bullshit) to 500+ (reasonably accurate) paper "oz" per real oz of pm held by those funds

>> No.20711929

>>20710688
I DoNt NeEd MoRe ThAn FiVe RoUnDs

>> No.20711935

>>20711809
Lastly do you think JM bullion doesn't have to pay for storage and security for thousands of ozs of silver on addition to handling doling it out piecemeal to people like you willing to pay a 30% markup?
There's literally nothing about a spot contract that's more expensive than buying retail.

>> No.20711941

>>20711780
don't respond to him, it only encourages him to keep posting, he had 57 posts last thread

>> No.20711953
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just got another $1000 check that I don't need should I still be buying silver?
the only coins I can buy where I live are $30 an oz - that's $8 premium...
please help guys

>> No.20711954

>>20711826
Yard sales or ask old people

>> No.20711963

>>20711935
It's less expensive because it's less real

>> No.20711972

>>20711888
That's why you use a stolen revolver if you intend to get away with committing crimes.

>> No.20711998

>>20711941
Muh safe space butthurt because I dont want people wasting a 30 % premium cry more shlomo

>> No.20712005

>>20711888
possibly, but with the revolver, the empty case is one piece of evidence you have the ability to avoid leaving.
where the bullet projectile itself on the other hand, may find itself inconveniently lodged inside of one or more dead or wounded street monkeys.

hypothetically speaking of course

>> No.20712020

>>20711953
$8 premium is very high, but at the moment you simply have to buy at the best price available to you, and that's going to include a hefty premium in one way or another. All the really cheap stuff that was worth buying last week is sold out.

>> No.20712027

>>20711888
>what type of gun you had by type of bullet?
thats a television myth
many times they cant even be shure of the caliber

>> No.20712042

>>20711953
That's a 27% premium. If silver goes up 27% you broke even. Buy slv and sell at 30. Boom profit you are on your way

>> No.20712045

>>20711941
agreed

>> No.20712054

>>20711963
It's harder to take possession of, if that's what you mean.
Do you really mean to tell me that I should buy 1,000 oz of silver have it physically delivered, and then find buyers for it two or three months from now when I want to sell it?
That's an asinine proposition.

>> No.20712059

>>20711866
>>20711893
>>20711954
hmm that sounds like more work than i would have expected. i was hoping the premiums were better than coins.

>> No.20712065

>>20711929
>I DoNt NeEd MoRe ThAn FiVe RoUnDs
god go back faggot ,your not from here

>> No.20712078

>>20711515
then what? you pay it off in a year?

>> No.20712095

>>20712042
>>20712054
>>20711998
Der Juden are out in full force

>> No.20712097

>>20711479
Bugging out has a role to play in emergency preparedness, but most people don't understand it

BUG IN:
>Financial collapse
>General riots+unrest
>Pandemics

BUG OUT:
>Localized weather/industrial disasters
>Localized riots+unrest
>War with fighting near your location
>Nuclear explosion upwind of your location

In most cases, your bug-out bag should contain a change of clothes, water and food for 3 days, cash, medication, and passports. The most likely scenario is that you decide to stay with cousins in the country for a week or two, and you might get stuck on the highway in extremely slow traffic, so you should be able to live out of your car for a short amount of time.

>> No.20712099

>>20712059
nah, premiums are ridiculously high on junk silver at most vendors right now.
i mean, you could get lucky and find a decent price somewhere, but it would be a rare find.

>> No.20712128

When does the spot market open? We should find out so that we can get frens like >>20711953 orders done so they get lower prices before the price explodes after opening

>> No.20712131

>>20711953
>another $1000 check
second round of Trump bux is here?

>> No.20712134

>>20711705
anon, it happened to FIAT every single time in history, to nations with gold and big militaries and economies...

ever
single
time

>> No.20712138

>>20712095
t. Retard who spends $200 on monster HDMI cables

>> No.20712155

>>20712097
>you might get stuck on the highway in extremely slow traffic, so you should be able to live out of your car for a short amount of time.
How many empty pissjugs does that mean?

>> No.20712160

>>20712128
COMEX opens in around 16 hours.

>> No.20712164

>>20712097
>bug-out bag should contain a change of clothes, water and food for 3 days, cash, medication, and passports
You forgot ammunition, firearm, first aid kit, general prep stuff (flashlight), any medications, etc.

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>>20712065
Make me dick breath

>> No.20712192

>>20712134
What do you mean? The previous reserve currencies I can think of didnt collapse into worthlessness, the GBP is still valuable today.

>> No.20712199

>>20712160
China starts trading in a few hours though

>> No.20712200

>>20711888
"Ah yes, the shooter used a 9mm. Case closed"

>> No.20712222

>>20712200
"And he seemed to be standing in that doorway there"

>> No.20712243
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BRAAAAAAAP BRAP BRAP braaap BRAPPPPP POOOOO POOO poopee peeeee poooo braaapbrapbrap splaaaaaaaart pooooo poopoopoopeeeeee peee pee pee poo poo splooooooooorch!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.20712257

>>20712078
I think he's hoping that the money printers brrrrring nonstop renders fiat into oblivion by then. Now's a great time to take out debt actually, even if fiat declines modestly, your debt will be half of what it was today in terms or purchasing power in a years time

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>>20712078
haha yeah minimum is $35 a month but I doubt there is going to be an economy or a country by this time next year.
it's going to culminate with this election bro.

>> No.20712276

>>20711342
Corn spot is currently $3.27 a bushel or 5 cents a pound. How come frozen corn costs $2/lb? MANIPULATION

>> No.20712290

>>20712222
"that must mean the he is white male named Peter Jacobs and he works at Johnston Enterprises, at 34th and Main St., lets get a search warrant."

>> No.20712317

>>20712138
so what should someone just starting do?

>> No.20712329

>>20712243
That's fucking hot

>> No.20712339

>>20711874
ok so if I can in fact buy 50000 oz of physical PM at spot, please point me to where I can do so, gladly will buy a plane ticket to pick it up.

Not sure why it suddenly costs so much to ship bullion from a retailer's vault to me, but its free to ship to a futures vault. If this was true the futures vault would simply add a shipping cost and deliver, if I can get ammo/lead/oil and other heavy bulky items shipped at a reasonable cost, I can get silver shipped at a reasonable cost.

>> No.20712347

>>20711358
One issue with ETFs is they can "break" if there is a liquidity mismatch. This happened to the GDX in march when the liquidity on the GDX was greater than the underlying shares and the GDX trades at a discount to the underlying. If you have balls, you buy that dip for the arbitration. It got closed and money was made.
In less liquid junk bond etfs it was speculated that the JNK and HYG etfs could fail as the etf was far more liquid than the underlying securities. The FED stepped in and propped these markets up.
ETFs can break but its usually a liquidity mismatch that causes it.

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>>20712020
yeah, everything is gone
>>20712042
but I wan't physical
>>20712128
if spot price goes up at least my premium percentage will be lower ;_;
>>20712131
no, it's a workcuck check

>> No.20712366

>>20712276
you are really overpaying for corn

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>> No.20712391

>>20712366
>he doesn’t know about the food pricing crisis of 07-08
You best start believing in rough rice futures...

>> No.20712414

>>20712357
the premium on gold is less

>> No.20712421

>>20712391
>>20712391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Z8_Mzmqgk

>> No.20712431

>>20712317
You can go ahead and buy some physical, you're just kind of getting raped on premiums and it's possible prices could go down to $15 at some point.
I mean, if you want a commodity that in the event of chaos might persuade people to provide you with food and shelter for a while, having a small stack isn't a bad thing even if it is expensive right now, but the guys who bought lots of silver at $12 are the real champs.
If you're looking to make money off speculation, you should buy SLV or GLD but know that you're not at the beginning of the rally.

>> No.20712434

>>20711583
The GSR has risen to where it is because BASELL III made gold a tier 1 asset(good as cash on balance sheets) while silver remains a tier 3 asset.

>> No.20712438

>>20712317
Buy bullion at the lowest price you can find if you can afford it. shop and browse. check the op links info for vendors, online bullion dealers. go there and compare prices.
register for acct and be ready to buy when the opportunity comes up. they come and go quick

>> No.20712453

When is the crash going to happen?

Under Biden?

>> No.20712467

>>20712339
buy it directly from miners?

>> No.20712493

>>20712339
Buy a spot contract on the London exchange, OR buy a soon to expire futures contract from I think the CME, but the delivery for that is in New York.
I mean, do you really to teach you how to buy futures and spot contracts through your brokerage?
You gonna pay me to be your investment advisor and put me through all the SEC required licensing to do your shit for you?

>> No.20712513

>>20712453
Presidential election literally meaningless.

There will be a selloff if it looks like he will win and have enough of congress to implement Taxing capital gains tax as regular income. But that will be a dip that will he bought up quickly.

>> No.20712514

>>20712453
we are in the crash right now, in case you hadn't noticed

>> No.20712543

>>20712514
This isn't the real crash.
People won't be able to live on unemployment and welfare forever

>> No.20712553

>>20712431
When the stock market crashes, won't SLV and GLD also?

>it's possible prices could go down to $15 at some point.
So maybe keep a cash pile ready to take on opportunities? Like if we get a big stock market dip maybe I can buy up physical cheaper?

>>20712438
Thanks. I have an Apmex and JPB account...

>> No.20712564

>>20712347
Are you sure about that? My understanding is that ETFs, unless stated in their charters, are allowed to trade at premiums or discounts to their net asset values. If there is some sort of odd panic (no fraud) that causes the ETF to trade at a substantial discount to NAV, there is no reason for the regulators to step in and there is no reason why the ETF would have to be liquidated.

The only ETFs I remember blowing up where the highly leveraged ones: DUST (I think) and one other one that was triple-levered. They got destroyed because if, in a single day the underlying stocks fall 33%, the ETFs goes bust due to the leverage, which is what happened.

>> No.20712593

>>20712005
Contrary to CSI and "bullet grooves" its more likely you'll be linked to a crime via a fingerprint or dna on the casing or the tool marks on the casing from your firing pin or extractor.

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>>20712257
>>20712260
mad lads, don't fucking tempt me.
Anyway, I'm hitting the beach and then burger king, anybody want anything?

>> No.20712625

>>20712599
They still got that 10 piece nugget deal for 1.29?

>> No.20712662

>>20712366
Even at 50 cents a lb for frozen corn, my point stands. You are overpaying by 10x. Why?

>> No.20712687

>>20712662
Cornvenience

>> No.20712704

>>20712553
No, SLV and GLD prices are correlated with the commodity price. There's a dozen or so banks that can exchange 50,000 shares of SLV for 50,000 oz of silver to and from JP Morgan's custody, which is a profitable trade to do if for some reason people buy or sell SLV enough to make its price dramatically different from the spot price of silver. The play would buy the cheaper of the two, redeem it, and sell the redeemed asset. That keeps the price of GLD and SLV roughly correlated to the spot price of both commodities.

>> No.20712707

>>20712625
Before you know it'll be 1/10 of a nugget for $129.

>> No.20712745

>>20712662
Why?
Transport, storage, production, wages, retail markup, and taxes at every level

>> No.20712748

>>20712564
They dont "have" to liquidate but they can to return value to shareholders. Normally the big ones trade at NAV and arb firms make sure they dont get out of line. In severe market dislocation they can trade off nav and the options holders can get screwed in the event of a dissolution.
If say an etf went to 0.01 and NAV was $1 it would make sense to dissolve and return securities in kind to the share holders

>> No.20712775

>>20712553
If the stock market goes down you'd probably be better off buying stocks but nothing's guaranteed.
Holding cash is good if you can't identify what you think is a good price for something, but in the long run holding cash is a losing game because the government devalues it by a solid 1% or so each year under good economies, and possibly more in a bad economy.
I'm not sure when silver will go down in price again, could be months or years.

>> No.20712798

>>20712553
ive had good deals off and on from
MonumentMetals,
ProvidentMetals,
JMbullion
APmex

>> No.20712814

>>20712745
>>20712687
This is why a 1 oz coin currently trades at a premium to spot. Anyone is more than welcome to take physical delivery of 1000 oz COMEX bars bought at spot and repour them in their backyard. I guarantee you wont make any money if you resell the bars for spot.

>> No.20712834

>>20712192
>>20712192
has nothing to do with being a reserve currency anon. GBP has lost most of its purchasing power compared to when it was PM backed, it can still buythings, but the GBP is most certainly "worth less" then it was before, and although it can be exchanged for goods/services/other fiats/ect it has no inherent value.

British, and before that, Spanish reserve currencies were PM backed, as was USD in the beginning.

Every single time, in history, where a nation has tried FIAT currency, it has failed. Find one example where it has worked for more then a hundred years. The fact that almost all countries are on FIAT does not mean that THIS TIME ™ fiat will work, it just means they are all going to the bottom, and the USD will be the best, worst, option.


You should look up why FIAT is such a bad idea. most arguments against PM backed currencies revolve around lies/tropes like "not enough of it/too hard to transport/cant have electronic/paper versions of it"

>> No.20712849

>>20712798
and SDbullion too

>> No.20712876
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Just got this as a birthday gift. What is it? Is it real?

>> No.20712915

>>20712814
Ignoring the point. Sometimes the premium is 75% sometimes its minus 10 %. And paying a 30% premium almost always leads to losses

>> No.20712950

>>20712543
>People won't be able to live on unemployment and welfare forever

They can and they will. It hasn't even started.

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>>20712876

>> No.20712965

>>20712814
yeah I get that, however, premiums skyrocketing because mines are shut down, refiners having trouble finding it and mints shutting down are decoupling the spot market from the physical market. Spot price has been relatively low in the midst of all of this, how are the bullion banks able to get a steady supply, and how are they trading a billion oz a day on the CME alone.

>> No.20712966

>>20712876
chew it in your mouf, if tastes good then real

>> No.20712972

>>20712876
are you really incapable of googling/duckduckgoing this yourself. Like holy shit people come here expecting a sterling silver spoonfeeding all the time.
>where's the best deal?
>what stock should I buy?
>are miners good?
all of these questions can be answered with a minimal amount of research

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>>20712276
OH SHIT
corn is in a dip!
BUY THE FUCKING DIIIIPPPPPP

>> No.20712990

>>20712915
Then dont do it. There are lots of ways to not pay a premium today. Onegold lets you buy PMs at pretty damn close to spot and convert to actual coins when premiums fall. This is not a taxable event either.

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>>20712834
>not enough
I never understood that. Take gold you could mix up some aqua regia and dilute it as much as necessary. This makes gold as infinitely divisible as bitcoin

>> No.20713045

>>20712978
China isn't buying any of our corn anymore. Only use for corn is ethanol for now.

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I bought a bunch of gold in 2018, is it worth selling? Where else do you put monee?

>> No.20713070

>>20712950
Wait until the inflation kicks in.

>> No.20713092

>>20713045
They will be if three gorges collapses. It will be a global shock event

>> No.20713108

>>20713047
don't sell yet, brainlet, wait for the US dollar crash

>> No.20713132

>>20713092
I know if I was Trump I would have stealth aircraft seeding clouds at night over china but that is just me
Operation Popeye version 2.0

>> No.20713133

>>20713092
Is it actually going to collapse?

>> No.20713134

>>20713092
I hope the dams do collapse but they probably won't.

>> No.20713141

>>20713108
see here, this guy, this fucking guy right here, he's GMI

>> No.20713148

>>20713108
Yeah I also got a bunch of gobmint bucks sitting around waiting to crash. Im like a deer in the headlights right now, I dont think more gold is the answer either.

>> No.20713157

>>20713047
If you feel you have a better place to put the money, this is as good a time as any as gold is essentially at its all-time high in USD. Recognize, though, that gold hedges the purchasing power of any cash you have. If you have a fair of cash, the gold protects you from getting screwed in a currency crisis. Your gold position should be anywhere from 2% to 30% of your cash position for hedging purposes.

>> No.20713178

>>20713132
>Stealth cloud seeding UAVs
Silver iodide... Another bullish indicator for silver.

>> No.20713182

>>20713132
Apparently the chinese have been seeding elsewhere to produce rain.
>>20713133
maybe. Alot of rain coming. Currently at 160M. Warning level is 175M and it tops at 181M.

>> No.20713216

>>20711515
free money lol

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>>20713182
So they are going to cause flooding elsewhere in the country in a desperate attempt to stop flooding in areas that put the dam at risk?
China is so fucked if that is best move they have

>> No.20713277

>>20713178
Silver bros.... we can't stop winning.

>> No.20713309

>>20713277

Were in deep lol

>> No.20713315

>>20712662
if these futures markets can get physical silver in this amount, for 20k less then a bullion dealer can, they would be shipping it out in droves because no one is turning down 20k profit just on having to ship something.

>> No.20713317

>>20713270
China is facing a simultaneous drought and flooding. "Apparently" they were seeding in the drought areas to try and create rain. The CCP is so comically inept though I wouldnt be surprised if they caused the flooding themselves.

>> No.20713326

>>20713270
What play would you do to stop flooding?
It's an act of god.

>> No.20713330

>>20713157
Switching over to REIT's right now seems like a solid option to me, I just have no idea of the real estate market is done eating shit yet

>>20713277
silver is pretty sick ngl.

>> No.20713340

>>20713315
Bullion dealers cant sell 1000oz bars dumb dumb. The premium is the cost to turn the 1000oz bars into little retail level 1oz and 10oz bars

>> No.20713364

>>20713326
I would have listened to all the engineers who said don't build the dam its only going to make things worse and not built the dam
oh and maybe move some of my cities from the flood area. They waste how much money building ghost cities why not move some of the cities that are in danger?

>> No.20713368

>>20713330
Reits are a terrible idea.

>> No.20713378

>>20713000
checked

exactly... just look at gold backs, we could have 1 atom of gold embedded in a note/coin and so on.

>> No.20713414

>>20713364
Alright so get to work building a time machine and become leader of the CCP.

>> No.20713428

>>20713330
I have investments in apartments and the per-unit prices being paid for these things really troubles me. I'm not sure if there is gneral value in MFH at all. Malls seem to be in big trouble since many landlords are reporting that they're only collecting 25% or less of rent due. I'm not sure of the situation in office buildings. Maybe they're better but there are claims that working from home will be much more prevalent in the future (I don't believe this will be true due to the nature of pointy-haired bosses) and that will dent demand for office buildings.

>> No.20713431

>>20713368
care to elaborate? trying not to get fucked here

>> No.20713443

>>20712990
SLV let's you buy for no premiums

>> No.20713450

>>20713330
Commercial real estate will be eating shit for years I think.

>> No.20713484

>>20712775
>I'm not sure when silver will go down in price again, could be months or years.
So maybe I just DCA?

>> No.20713499

>>20712990
>Onegold lets you buy PMs at pretty damn close to spot

Just adding some additional information. OneGold is some sort of joint venture between APMEX and Sprott, two fairly well trusted names in the precious metals market.

>> No.20713520

>>20713431
Most reits carry alot of debt and leverage. You're basically selling the base of a bull market(gold) to buy into a leveraged play near its peak(real estate).
>>20713443
Buy PSLV. With SLV you are actually an unsecured creditor to the custodian. The problem with etfs in general is there isnt a mechanism to convert to physical without creating a tax event like you can do with onegold

>> No.20713548
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20713548

>>20710567
Quality Chan posting like the good old days.

>> No.20713555

>>20713499
More importantly, which is better
>Partnership between Sprott/Apmex to hold for you
>Be unsecured creditor to JPMorgan(Custodian of SLV)

>> No.20713570

>>20713428
Thanks for reply, if shit hits the fan as far as people not making rent, i figure it could create a solid buying oppritunity as far as residential housing. It's all conjecture/speculation though

I agree though commercial real estates.. fucked

>> No.20713577

>>20713340
yes I know anon.. hence why people are paying crazy premiums to actually acquire the actual metal. It is just economy of scale. I am sure some super rich people are indeed buying futures and taking deliver on a 1k oz bar, but normal people only have 1k or less to spend at a time, so they are stuck with what they get. Still does not explain why there are so many shortages of physical metal, vs no shortages at all on paper contracts (which may or may not (they arent) be 1-1 backed by physical PM's)

>> No.20713600

>>20711038
Stop being a faggot and kill yourself before you beat your wife again

To the kids playing at home: this fag has been in the last dozen threads giving deliberately shit advice.

>> No.20713614

>>20713555
SLV

>> No.20713629

>>20713600
Damnit man, it was going fine, no one was replying to him and he was being pretty quiet

>> No.20713638

>>20713577
The silver market is tiny as shit the ultra rich buy kilo bars of gold. The shortages are the fact there are warehouses of 1000oz silver bars but no refining. RCM was closed for 6 weeks at arguably the highest demand point for retail bars.

>> No.20713650

>>20713577
Theres no shortage of silver you have a shortage of money to buy it with

>> No.20713665

>>20713614
You do you anon.

>> No.20713675

>>20713484
If you want to hedge your risk of mis timing the market then sure DCA is great, but if you think the silver market will keep going up and (crucially) you intend to sell your silver at a higher price, you'd be better off buying it all now. I wouldn't hold onto SLV or GLD for years, I'd use them to make money off short or medium term movements.
If your intent is to just have a stack perpetually, I'd probably just buy a few ozs just to hold. I mean, think about it, if everything goes to shit, something like 10 oz would put you slightly ahead of most people, and if it doesn't go to shit you might have a better buying opportunity ten years from now to accumulate physical silver then.
The important thing really is just that you're watching now.

>> No.20713680
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20713680

>>20710620
Were you posting in /out/ too? ive been seeing this image a lot.

>> No.20713684

>>20713600
Boohoo because someone used your lame copypesto

>> No.20713719

>>20713665
I'm up 30 % on my slv in a month fuck yeah loser who lost 30% by buying a memecoin

>> No.20713741

>>20713520
Yeah I'm expecting more upward mobility for gold, it took 3 years to peak last time the egonomy ate shit. I'm just trying to look a few steps ahead based on previous financial disasters

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20713745

>>20713520
>>20713555
This FUD again.
JP Morgan is required to make the SLV trust whole if it is committing fraud, and if
a)you think JP Morgan is actively committing fraud and
B) you think making SLV whole is going to bankrupt JP Morgan
I don't know what to tell you because the whole world will be burning at that point.

>> No.20713747

>>20711515
Get half ounce gold, rest in silver

>> No.20713748

>>20713629
You are powerless I am the silvermaster

>> No.20713754

>>20713520
shill me on onegold anon.

Buying silver, PHYSICAL silver, for only a few cents over spot seems to good to be true. Whats stopping me from using them to buy 500 oz of silver at 60 cents over spot? I presume there are lots of hidden fees to actually convert it into physical metal

>> No.20713776

>>20713719
Im up 400% on my SLV calls and 100% on my SILJ calls. Dont assume someones portfolio. I leverage into a larger PSLV position

>> No.20713796

>>20713745
Yeah but thats exactly what they are doing
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/09/16/three-jp-morgan-precious-metals-traders-charged-in-criminal-probe.html

>> No.20713797

>>20710615
From a logistical standpoint revolvers are better as far as longevity and ammunition availability go, especially if we are now entering an economic crisis that could result in supply shortages.

>revolvers do not have wear parts like recoil springs that need to be replaced. Revolvers do not break extractors because they don't have them.
>revolvers do not need magazines, simply having the gun and a box of cartridges is enough.
>many revolvers use more than one type of ammo like 357 magnum to 38 special, or 44 magnum to 44 special, or 22 magnum to 22 long rifle, or 32 smith and wesson long to 32 smith and wesson short, ect. This allows the user more options when it comes to aquiring ammo during shortages. Semi autos do not give this flexibility, they are cartridge specific whether that ammo is actually available or not.
>most importantly revolvers are very tolerant of poor ammunition quality. You can reliably feed a revolver with reloaded ammo made from match heads and recovered lead projectiles in poorly crimped cartridges and the gun will still work where a semi auto will choke on every shot. Also with revolvers you can use under powered ammo and as long as the bullet doesn't squib in the barrel the gun will work. Under powered ammo in a semi auto will cause cycling issues. Semi autos have very precise maintenace and ammunition needs that may not be possible to meet during a prolonged crisis.

During a time of scarcity and government bans like the time we might be entering into, revolvers actually make a lot of sense and give the user a lot more resource flexibility and lower maintenance at the expense of capacity and quick reloads. The one disadvantage to revolvers is that while they are less likely to break, when they finally do break, fixing one can be a challenge.

Someone who is serious about /making it/ owns both semi autos and revolvers though. They both have a place.

>> No.20713809

>>20713754
Just buy englehard fabricated bullion

>> No.20713835

>>20713745
>what does it make you if the bank owes you money?
>unsecured creditor
JPmorgan will pay out in cash at last traded price. Not alot of good thats going to do you if the PM market fails.
Just buy PSLV. Sprott is comitted to kicking the COMEX's teeth in.

>> No.20713860

>>20713754
Its allocated pool so you share a 1000oz bar with other people. You pay the refining costs when you convert. Lots of organizations have this .

>> No.20713866

>>20713754
You should read the web site. OneGold is in competition with companies like BullionVault and GoldMoney. Those companies make money by charging commissions on buying and selling of bullion and storage fees. You must read the terms regarding storage fees carefully.

At the moment, with premiums on silver as high as they are, you could buy silver with one of these companies and the saved premium would probably cover a decade or more of storage fees.

>> No.20713871

>>20713776
Oh so you want other people to pay 30% premiums on physical silver while you load up on paper silver while telling others not to buy paper silver. Cool beans

>> No.20713880

>>20713675
Thanks anon. I'm going to trade SLV + GLD, plus the J miners for a while, to hopefully momentum trade off of. I've bought 2oz of gold and 35oz of silver, and I'll just slowly add more over time of physical to try to get the best deals. If I see a dip, I'll buy physical on it.

>> No.20713910

>>20713835
You are spreading fud while shilling for sprott again

>> No.20713923

>>20713871
Point to where Ive told people to buy physical? I have explained the premium. I dont think its a good deal so I choose to place my money with Sprott's fund. take your meds

>> No.20713929

>>20713796
Spoofing is a completely different scheme from custodial fraud, but at any rate these guys got caught and are facing criminal charges.
The custodial unit in London would likely also face criminal charges if they got caught, and like I just posted, JPMorgan has agreed to indemnify the trust against losses due to JPMorgan acting fraudulently. So unless JPMorgan foes bankrupt AND it committed fraud, I don't consider this a high risk.
And it's certainly misleading to say SLV is an unsecured creditor to JPMorgan. That's a deliberate misrepresentation.

>> No.20713935

>>20713754
never mind, found the scam, only lets you redeem for physical gold at APMEX's determined prices, not at spot, IE more per oz of physical then at other dealers.

Futures has many fees associated with physical deliver of PM's as well

>> No.20713959

>>20712798
Not silver gold bull?
That’s where I got my asahis and 10oz bar
Please don’t tell me it’s a scam and they’re never going to arrive...

>> No.20713964

>>20713675
Buying 10 ounces does nothing and is worse than buying nothing

>> No.20713983
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20713983

>schiff ranting about closed captions on pornhub on today's video

>> No.20713984

>>20713910
JPmorgan traders were literally charged with manipulation of the precious metals market. You do you bud. Im done talking about this.

>> No.20713995

what is the cheapest (lowest fees) way to get exposure to the gold price (without buying physical)

>> No.20714003

>>20713959
not a scam, SGB is a good dealer.

>> No.20714007

>>20713964
This is objectively false statement.

>> No.20714024

>>20713984
Cry about a guy who got a parking ticket. Enjoy paying your high fees and taxes

>> No.20714041

>>20713984
He is in every thread these days, he has been shilling SLV nonstop trying to get anyone asking about where to buy physical into SLV instead

>> No.20714042

>>20713270
They’ve already exploded walls along the channel to do just that. Flooding some peasant villages isn’t exactly a difficult decision for them.

>> No.20714048

>>20713995
SLV>>20714007
What's it going to do

>> No.20714054

>>20713983
I'm listening to it now. He's cracking me up.
Ambient music and hearing aids
Wheelchair swimming pools
Bigfoot size 14 shoes...

>> No.20714084

>>20713959
I have bought from SilverGoldBull. They probably have the best inventory, moderate pricing relative to their competitors, and one of the slower shipping times. They also state they price match, but it's a pain in the ass to get them to honor this. I have also done business with:

BoldPreciousMetals.com: Fast delivery low inventory selection, occasionally the best price
Monumentmetals.com: Moderate delivery, low inventory selection, occasionally the best prices
Providentmetals.com: Moderate delivery, low inventory selection, military veteran discount pricing

>> No.20714092

>>20714048
It gives you 10 oz of silver which is more than zero.

>> No.20714129

>>20714092
That's my point that's not even worth having

>> No.20714139

>>20714003
>>20714084
Nice thanks
I think they were the best price/oz at the time for the 10 oz bar, and nearly the best for the asahi rounds. I could’ve paid less for rounds but I want something aesthetic as long as it’s not significantly over priced. Realistically I’ll be holding these for decades so they might as well be something I like the look of.

>> No.20714151

>>20713983
Lol I just got to it. Comedy. Every once in a while he does this.

>> No.20714168

>>20714129
You said that ten is worse than zero.

>> No.20714172

>>20714084
>and one of the slower shipping times.
Be very, very careful about dealers with very slow shipping times. If they are truly excessive (a month or more), they could be speculating with customers' money and could go bust. This is exactly what happened to Tulving and Northwest Territorial Mint.

>> No.20714174

>>20714129
fuck off and harvest some nuts little squirrel

>> No.20714208

>>20714092
Remember, only a true idiot would argue with this simple and concise logic.

>> No.20714229

>>20714208
Okay, so if I offered you 10 oz of silver or zero oz of silver, you'd take zero ounces of silver?

>> No.20714265

>>20714208
All above ground silver works out to 7 oz per person. If you only consider bullion its less than one oz per person on earth.
>What is ten oz of silver?
It gives you more silver than 99% of earthlings have.

>> No.20714275

>>20714229
I would take 10oz, because I'm not an idiot, Dr. Dumbass is the one arguing with this point, like I said, only a truly profound retard would argue 0oz is better than 10 oz

>> No.20714301

>>20714172
They are based out of a non-descript building in Las Vegas so certainly possible, but I got my product so no worries

>> No.20714334

>>20714265
I always wondered about this, is there a place where we can find numbers about other silver stackers, like 100oz puts you in the top 50% 200oz and so on?

>> No.20714386

>>20714301
How long did they take to ship? If you paid with a personal check, a couple of weeks is pretty reasonable. Anything longer than that is a warning sign, though.

>> No.20714522

>>20714275
You could gave some food or a gun but you chose a shiny rock. You are useless too

>> No.20714548

>>20713680
based out poster

>> No.20714549

>>20711038
Nowhere in this video did he mention the SILJ or the GDXJ.

>> No.20714599

Asian Markets open!

>> No.20714636

>>20714599
Link to live price?

>> No.20714707

>>20714636
ig.com

>> No.20714723

>>20714636
Spot
Gold: https://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
Silver: https://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
I'm using Thinkorswim for futures.

>> No.20714736

is there any functional difference between investing in an ETF like GLD and ETC such as SGLN

>> No.20714772
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20714772

woh

>> No.20714792

holy shit. strap in boys

>> No.20714832

Ah shit... I just realized SGB sells maple leaf coins for basically the same price as asahi rounds... Seems really fucking stupid not to get the government backed actual currency

>> No.20714836

Wooooooooooooo

>> No.20714850

whoever is baking don't forget to add previous thread to op

>> No.20714853

Uppy night frens :)

>> No.20714891

>>20714723
Precisely what market is this? I'm relatively new to all of this and was under the impression COMEX basically determined the spot prices of gold and silver and they're not open for hours

>> No.20714903
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20714903

tomorrow is rocketship boarding day

>> No.20714926

>>20714723
>>20714707
Ty

>> No.20714941

1,942.20
Bid
1,943.20

IDS HABBENING :D:D

2,000 dollars by this weekend for sure

>> No.20714946

>>20714891
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/silver.html?ds_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAjw0_T4BRBlEiwAwoEiAeHC7ZS5_n8cRNeXbQw2DCUFI06hqg9i928FlU6Tr-Mm4wrYDQYXqhoClDwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

>> No.20714953
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20714953

Well if im not mistaken thats a new ath

>> No.20714972

>>20714953
How long do we have to place physical orders before the dealers catch on? Hours?

>> No.20714973

kek and back to 1900

>> No.20714976

>>20714926
I prefer tradingview
>https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/XAUUSD/
>https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/TVC-SILVER/

>> No.20714984

>>20714941
Where the fuck are you seeing that

>> No.20715014

>>20714953
What the hell currency are you looking at?
Gold Spot is ~1905

>> No.20715031

>>20714984
>>20715014
High: 1,943.80

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>>20714972
I literally slipped this order in an hour ago or so.

>> No.20715062
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>>20714984
>>20715014

>> No.20715070

>>20715014
>>20715031
Could be a glitch. Kitco often has glitches

>> No.20715085

>>20715031
Futures didn't move past 1906. Probably just a fuck up on the spot market reporting

>> No.20715100

>>20715062
What would cause a sudden increase and drop like that?
I don't' see why someone would buy that much above spot

>> No.20715114

>>20715061
In South Korea?

>> No.20715118
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UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.20715152

>>20715100
Glitch

>> No.20715186

>>20715062
ALL TIME HIGH! For a fraction of a second.

>> No.20715188

>>20715114
Yeah it's like 7am and they didn't change any of the prices yet. Everyone's still in bed, or they just only track during hours COMEX trading instead of this after hours slash futures stuff.

That or they bumped up the prices enough last week that they don't give a shit, to me 315,000 is actually not that bad for a 1/10th anyway

>> No.20715199

Gold @1909$, 12$ from setting all time high...
This is gud.

>> No.20715198
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20715198

>>20715152
That may be but silver does not look like a glitch
Shit my fucking deposit needs to clear so I can buy some shares in these mining companies.
Hurry the fuck up ally you better be good by tomorrow

>> No.20715217
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20715217

welp, i guess it really is ending tomorrow

>> No.20715222

>>20715118
shhhh, youll scare it

>> No.20715232
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20715232

NOWHERE TO GO BUT UP>>20715199

>> No.20715264

>>20715217
i wonder what the stonk market is going to do

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20715304

>>20715217
>>20715232
only have 4 + 1/4 oz gold and 80 oz silver but I don't give a fuck
let this rocket fly

>> No.20715328

>>20715304
My Aussie mouse will just bring me to 6/10oz :(
I really wanted to make 1oz before shit got real

>> No.20715392

>>20715328
you still have more than most

>> No.20715419

I'm a little concerned about NEM earnings this week, they're a big part of my miner etf RING

>>20715328
>has fractional gold
no complaining allowed

>> No.20715438

>>20714386
I usually pay with echeck and am rating these websites delivery times not counting the five day clearing period. I am comparing them to one another.

I had my Boldpreciousmetals.com order about 3 days after my echeck cleared. Silvergoldbull.com was a couple weeks and Monumentmetals.com & Providentmetals.com were a little over a week.

>> No.20715538

COME ON BOYS LETS GO
2K SILVER
30K GOLD
I WANNA BELIEVE

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>>20714953
>>20715014
Someone let go of the "suppress gold" button at Jew Headquarters

>> No.20715592

>>20715538
well that's probably not going to happen but maybe if you stack up a few grand in silver asap you'll have a fat down payment for a rental condo in a mostly white city somewhere.

>> No.20715607

>>20715538
I would laugh very hard if my hedge investment in silver made me rich

>> No.20715665

>>20715578
Jamie Dimon must enter the numbers 4-8-15-16-23-42 into a particular terminal every several hours

>> No.20715666

>>20713047
stocks are going to keep mooning for like 5 years more but keep the gold, just try to find more cash

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>>20713983
source and rimestamp?

>> No.20715703

YAAAAAAAAAY GOLD IS CRASHING

I just need another month or two, hopefully a few more corrections like this will be enough for MSM business news talking heads to stop talking about this shit

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>>20715665
Well, can we just pool together our gold and start a 4chan commodities exchange and bid up the price to 6 gorillion dollars?

>> No.20715713

>>20715666
Dow gold ratio disagrees

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>>20715703
>>20715703
>crashing
>down 0.32%
Are u retarded ? fucking faggot

>> No.20715754

IT CAN'T BE STOPPED
METAL HAS BEEN KEPT DOWN FOR TOO LONG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.20715762

Ag $24 EOD Monday you have been warned

>> No.20715784

>>20715713
so they are def doing another stimulus. should i leave money in my stocks for the time being and let it ride for a few weeks or is now an good time to snipe some gold instead?

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>>20715728
Line go down (a little). Hopefully a lot more, I'm not ready.

You might be right though, the train could be really leaving the station this time.

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>>20715703
Liar

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20715822

>>20712972
I'm getting annoyed too. That plus all the jew, black, politics talk, I'm going back to just lurking again. There's so much great information in the previous threads and on youtube and google, but people seem to want the answers given to them instead of doing a minimum bit of work first.

>Are miners good?
Is a google and youtube search.
>Is x company going to be economical at $24 silver?
Is a good question for discussion and everyone can benefit from

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>>20715791
>you might be right
Bitch, I'm always right.
Gold to $2,000 in two weeks.

>> No.20715846

>>20715762
What do you think by the end of the week? Is 30 to much to ask?
At that point I am well over what I payed for my most expensive silver and coasting

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20715874

>>20715792
>>20715839
NOOO NOOO I TOLD YOU IM NOT READY FOR THIS SHIT AAAAAAAA STOP GOING UP

>> No.20715916
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20715916

Just ordered another 40oz silver because my wife saw the recent gains and wants more. Accompanied by a full pantry with 6 months of food and plenty of ammo.

>> No.20715919

please don't moon

>> No.20715929

>>20715916
Fucking bearish

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20715955

>>20715916
i've bought some mason jars and am going to teach myself to make sauerkraut, sourdough and hamburger buns this week

>> No.20715959

>>20715919
I wonder why it is that psychologically there seems to be a lot more people working on a PM stack who dislike (at least from their POV) premature moon missions than crypto holders.

Even though there are just as many if not more minnows over there who could with more time to buy more of their shit.

>> No.20715983

>>20715959
who could do*

>> No.20716009

>>20715955
Pretty comfy friend

>> No.20716025
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20716025

I've been telling you faggots for WEEKS
We were IN THE DIP
I FUCKING TOLD YOU
I SHOULD HAVE SYMPATHY FOR YOU BUT I REALLY JUST DON'T
YOU
SHOULD
HAVE
BOUGHT
TWO WEEKS AGO
YOU MOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS

>> No.20716043

>>20715955
>sourdough
based my starter is on its 4th day today

>> No.20716070
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20716070

>>20716025
but I did buy anon
just didn't have enough money to buy a lot

>> No.20716087

>>20716025
You should have bought two years ago.

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20716101

>>20716070
don't worry even stackletts can get some nice returns. You just have to sell at the right time and then roll your profits over into something good.
still don't know what that next thing is though

>> No.20716123

>>20716087
>tfw only started buying in April

It's a weird feel, on one hand I KNEW about PMs for years but never actually bothered to get any. If I had started stacking years ago, I'd be like Floor Stacker and about to become incredibly wealthy.

On the other, at least I managed to accumulate some. It's a bittersweet feeling.

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>>20715955
Nice. My wife has been on a self-sufficiency kick lately. It helps that she didn't grow up in a first world country and understands the fragility of society.

She started sewing masks and clothing for the girls during the pandemic. Since then she's started a garden, started making her own bread, fully stocked the pantry, and encouraged me to stack precious metals and cigars (posted this the other day). We live on a large body of freshwater so in addition to our water stores, we have an endless supply of fish and freshwater (unless it gets contaminated somehow). I'm hoping everything gets back to normal and I have a lot of silver and gold to hand over to my kids someday.

Just in case, any other ideas for achieving self-sufficiency, anons?

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>>20716070
Don't worry fren, that post wasn't meant for you. It was for all those
>just wait for the dip to buy a bunch at once ;^)
retards who thought that this shit wasn't going to just start punching through the roof at any goddamn time. Idiots. There was just too much pressure underneath all the leverage and Israeli tricks keeping it down.

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>>20716101
where do you guys sell you PM's? I've only ever bought