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Even if I’m /making it/ I feel it’s not worth it without a girlfriend and a kid

>> No.20700939

biz is going to be billionaire manlet without gf, im sorry anon

>> No.20701016

>>20700920
I miss my dad

>> No.20701057
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>>20700920
Definitely true. MGTOW is the biggest BS fud of all. Don't listen to it. Having children is LITERALLY one of your primary functions as a human and one of the greatest joys (not fleeting dopamine but actual true meaningfulness) you can experience. Getting a good girl just takes time and effort and getting out of your comfort zone and being ready to take a lot of rejection no matter how "chad" you are.

Anyone who is sincerely MGTOW from their own experience with women rather than just "muh marriage lose all my money" is a retard who FOMO'd into a relationship with a girl with red flags they ignored - or a 3+ bodycount - and wants everyone else to be miserable like them. Try online dating if you haven't anon, it works and keeps the odds on your side as much as they can be (1% rather than 0.0001%) it's just very tedious

and good luck to you!

>> No.20701085

>>20700920
>different font in last panel
so what was the original text?

>> No.20701369

>>20701016
same

>> No.20701381

>>20700920
>Girlfriend and a kid
You mean wife
fucking degenerate

>> No.20701417

>>20701016
My dad is still around but we're on bad terms because of our egos, will I regret it someday?

>> No.20701423

>>20701381
you're either a cuck or a zoomer

>> No.20702139

>>20700920
It really isn't. You don't want it in your 20s but boy do you feel like a loser without a wife and kids in your 30s.

>> No.20702680

>>20701057
Really says a lot when reddit allows the mgtow board to stay alive after their purge.

>> No.20702723

>>20701417
Probably. Be the bigger man and apologize, even if it sucks. Regret isn't worth being right.

>> No.20702725

>>20701016
fuck

>> No.20703272

>>20700920
Bruh

>> No.20703299

>>20702139
Almost 30. Maybe I’m going to an hero

>> No.20703314

I dont post often, but I have a big tiddy wife and 7 kids. If she lost some weight and link moons my life would be perfect.

>> No.20703355

>>20702139
35 year old boomer here
can confirm
i should have impregnated my hk chinese gf 10 years ago when i had the chance

>> No.20703396

>>20701417
>will I regret it someday?
Yes.

>> No.20703423

>>20701016
I had a stroke 2 years ago and is in a vegetative state I have to hear my mom be all excited and happy about how they move the f****** thumb or something and I hear her baby talk to him and it's f****** tear up and she sending me pictures of him drooling on himself and the very minimal progress that you made and she amps it up and she thinks he's talking back to her it hurts so much Bros

>> No.20703456

>>20703423
I didn't have a DAd did.

happened like a week after he got on anti-depressants after never taking any of that crazy shit his whole life.
and I know it's because he had a failure for a son and the thing is I've got off the street since then and I got an apartment and a job and I'm doing a lot better and I'm trading now and even have some precious metals

>> No.20703464

>>20701057
based

>> No.20703471
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20703471

DELET THIS THREAD

>> No.20703512

>>20703456
Your dad would be proud of you.

>> No.20703538

>>20701057
Wont have kids until I have a nanny who takes cares of them.
Having kids is a torture that kills best years of your life, your marriage and career.
So no kids until I 'make it'

>> No.20703616

>>20703456
thats heart breaking.Stay strong anon, continue to honour him. God bless

>> No.20703626

>>20703538
Anglos are fucked in the head.

>> No.20703700

>>20701417
unless your dad literally beat you as a child you'll probably regret it and maybe even then you still will unironically

>> No.20703714

>>20703538
Childless manlet detected

>> No.20703778

>>20700920
I'm color-blind, have asthma, bad skin, bad digestive system, bad teeth, and a host of other genetic disorders. Why would I want to pass these horrible things on to my own child?

Not to mention the fact that this world is FUCKED now and I have no desire to bring a child into it. Cut the shit, optimists. This isn't the 50s and no, our cities are not that safe anymore, culture is hyper-sexualized and hyper sedentary, and now the pandemic is here to ruin all social skills and sense of normalcy for a child.

But sure keep thinking that satisfying your base animal desires and selfishly pumping your seed into a whore is akin to making it or suddenly becoming enlightened. I'll never understand that arrogance and ignorant attitude that all new dads seem to be afflicted by.

>> No.20703861

>>20703714
Reproducing requires NO skill and you're probably a shit parent considering you're posting here on 4chan on a Sunday morning instead of doing something with your kids. At least some of us have the restraint of biological desire to consider the conditions of our offspring before knocking up our partners.

>> No.20703865

>>20703538
I'm almost 30 and one of my most crushing realizations ia knowing that if I had stayed in church and sought first the glory of god I would have had at least one child before age 25 and would be spending my 30's doing fun shit with then while I still posessed a smidgin of youthfulness. I will be lucky to ride a bike with a 10 year old son before I am 45 at this point. You fags don't realize how short life is and have no idea what matters.

>> No.20703874

>>20703538
I’m going to get third worlders pumped full of baby batter in my 30s but not gonna settle down until after 45 with wife and triplets.

>> No.20703893

>>20703778
seething genetic dead end

>> No.20703931

>>20703861
Have you ever heard about something called nap time? It's what little kids do so their parents can do whatever they want in that time.

>> No.20703933

>>20703865
>have no idea what matters.
That's your condescending and bigoted opinion, faggot. I don't believe that following the herd of humanity and doing the same shit that everyone else is doing is necessarily the right thing to do.
But you sheep are stuck in a perpetual loop of "Oh, i need to make it so I can have kids so they can..."
What, change the world?
What the fuck do you think your kids are going to do besides pump out more kids?
Fucking virus mentality.

>> No.20703941

>>20703778
You're bitter over your own unfit genetics. No one is brow beating you for not having kids, most of us are expressing our inner regret over the acknowledgment that we actually DO want kids. I don't understand why you go on to suggest that having children is animalistic and selfish, maybe you just want everyone to be as miserable as you? There is nothing selfish about wanting to be a good parent to your progeny. I hope you find some peace in life but can see you are trapped in your own immiseration and despair.

>> No.20703958

>>20703893
>welfare parent ignoring kids

>> No.20703968

>>20703538
Let the wife take care of the kids, if she has too much time in her hands she's very likely to cheat on you

>> No.20703981

>>20703933
Just kys already. I don't really care about how miserable you are and am not going to apologize or attempt to reason with you, just go be miserable and die.

>> No.20703982

I met a chick who didn't want kids, true story. And have dudefrens who got vasectomies who are raising their partners kids. And I wanted kids but the interest was more hypothetical. Females can say the desire is about hormones... Men cant use the same excuse.

>> No.20704011

>>20703778
>I'm color-blind, have asthma, bad skin, bad digestive system, bad teeth, and a host of other genetic disorders

Then just kys. Simple.

>> No.20704016

>>20703941
You're not a psychologist and that isn't accurate.
I'm resentful toward people in general for trying to take a morally superior position once they have children.
It's hive-mind bullshit and it's present in this thread.

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>>20703778
Genetic defects are recessive and unlikely to get passed to the next generation.
The world might be into a dump since the 60s but don't panic sell and zoom out, compared to medival times we're in a pretty good place. Imagine if humans stoped reproducing during the plague because muh wicked world

>> No.20704078

>>20703981
>>20704011
Typical response from the hivemind.
>You're not going to pump out any kids for the hive?
>Well you might as well kill yourself
Get shot subhumans. I have the right to my own pursuit of happiness that doesn't involve knocking up a manipulative whore and having kids. Get over it.

>> No.20704114

>>20704029
I'm one person with a clearly minority opinion.
Why try to guilt-trip me based on what past civilizations did?
The human species will continue, unfortunately.
Forever mutating and degenerating into something inferior and not superior.
Any true geneticist will tell you this.

>> No.20704142

>>20703933
Bruh the only concrete reason we have right now for the purpose of life is to PROCREATE

>> No.20704150

>>20704078
You do but societies are dead without a steady influx of babies.
Hence, you're irrelevant in the grand scheme.

>> No.20704197

>>20704078
>I have the right to my own pursuit of happiness

Not if you have the WRONG genes. Seriously, rope is the only future allowed for your kind.

>> No.20704202

>>20701016
Same

>> No.20704215

>>20704142
That's complete faggotry with no logical reasoning.
The human race is dying out due to genetic degeneration and mutations.
Every time another generation is born more mutations are introduced.
TL;DR it's not actually beneficial for the human speces if everyone reproduces willy nilly

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/the-human-race-is-dying-dna-degeneration-would-eventually-lead-to-the-total-extinction-of-humanity

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>>20704197
>for your kind.
Your genetics are trash too, cocky little faggot. DYOR.
I'm white by the way and my family is English as far back as I've researched.
Here's a rope for you since you're so adamant in talking about suicide you must be projecting.

>> No.20704260

>>20703933
>What, change the world?
Yes, actually. Can I change other people's minds? Unlikely, without insane effort and openness on their part. But can I raise children to think rightly and be different in a degenerate world? Much more likely. The key to changing a culture was always the children. And the good thing about selfish degenerates is that most of the time, it dies with them, and they aren't passing it on to kids. Change occurs at the generational level, but over that timeframe, raising one good child who does the same, etc. etc. changes the world exponentially.

>> No.20704270

>>20704197
Rope is for kikes, niggers, race-mixers, cucks and traitors. If he's a genetic dead end let him coom in peace. He a good boy, he dindu nuffin.

>>20704215
Dude, stop reading Jewish shit. Mammals have been reproducing for millions of years but now all of sudden our DNA will mutate and we will be extincted! That's mind poison for Whites because mudslimes, kikes and niggers don't read that kind of shit.

>> No.20704311

>>20704270
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH
Look up how the human genome is degrading.
Read books written by real geneticists and not 4chan fags.

>> No.20704347

>>20704215
>TL;DR it's not actually beneficial for the human speces if everyone reproduces willy nilly

actually that's not true
most actual harmful mutations cause you to kick the bucket in infancy or early childhood, wayyy before you actually get the chance to reproduce, once you get past that stage your genes are good enough to pass on, it's not the bronze age anymore lol

anyhow, humanity is actually evolving at a faster pace now than ever, you are literally supposed to breed and contribute to the gene pool, if you wanna be a whiny faggot then go ahead, we don't need you in the gene pool

>> No.20704363

>>20704016
Keep projecting
>>20704078
Kys was just a suggestion. Enjoy your bitter, resentful, lonely life though. Surely it is us who desire children and spiritual health who are the fools.

Surely.

If the human race is so meaningless and you are secure in your nihilism, why not at least go enjoy being a degenerate or something? You are just raging and it shows that you are troubled by the subject. I know it may be hard to believe but even in thr current year, healthy people are having healthy children and enjoying a healthy family life.

While you rage in loneliness desperate for a world as miserable as you. There are plenty of miserable cucks, why not go hang with them?

>> No.20704368

>>20704311
I don't disagree with the concept of genetic entropy. But you do know the implications of saying that our genetic code is deteriorating with every generation, right? That implies a much shorter world history than billions of years, and it also implies a starting point and a Creator. Which actually has much greater implications for the purpose of your life.

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>>20702680
Never even thought of it that way. Good point. Pretty sure they even banned fucking r/ big chungus lmao.

>>20703538
It's good to be financially stable and have a good life already for your children's sake but women are literally - LITERALLY - designed to care for infants and toddlers. That's why they seem so stupid and childish. That's why they're so neurotic (a man can just "chill" while women always have to be multitasking even if it's just endless meaningless texting and social media posting and having the same netflix show on in the background for added stimulation.) They're programmed to be watching infants that could be strangled by a python at any moment.

There's tons of kike trickery to keep you and your woman (if/when you find her) off that path but as long as you guys have good communication, boundaries, principles, morals, etc. it's all good.

>>20704029
>>20704114
Recessive genes express themselves most commonly in race mixing because in genetically closer populations the recessive genes get ironed out. If you mix up a bunch of foreign genes basically anything can express itself and it's usually not good. That being said - and it being acknowledged that race mixing is going on now more than ever - our culture dictates evolution more than any naturally selective force in animal history except for maybe extinction events. Currently we are min-maxing for a total slave class (3rd worlders) and a total overclass (jews, asians, conservative whites having 3+ kids) with the underclass in the middle (libs more or less) totally annihilating themselves genetically. Considering that even east indias population of pajeets is peaking and how hereditary even things like beliefs can be it's actually a really net-positive long term genetic experiment we're doing rn. The technocratic cyberpunk dystopia and chink polution will be the main problems; not genes.

>> No.20704509

>>20704363
Again, you're not a psychologist and regardless of how many times you claim that my life is miserable, lonely, meaningless, nihilist, and on and on...you don't know what you're talking about, you're too simple minded to understand.

>> No.20704531

>>20701417
I never fought with my dad my whole life, but one year he forgot my birthday and I stopped talking to him for 2 weeks. He died on the last day of those two weeks

>> No.20704648

>>20704531
Kek

>> No.20704686
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>>20704509
I suppose the question is really whether you've actually "figured it out" and whether you really believe that. Millions if not billions of people would consider you totally full of shit and the "hivemind" is calling you bitter/resentful/etc. out of the perceived archetype you're expressing. That exists in our minds because of an inherent understanding of who represents the type of people who rebel against the natural order like that.

But again, maybe you're right. Maybe there is no deeper reason to have kids and it's all just materialistic (MY kids) or egotistical (creating something in your own image) masturbation.
If you're wrong tho, you're fucked and you've missed out on something much bigger than any crypto or stock. You may find yourself with a void in your soul that nothing achievable for the rest of your finite life can fill. An emptiness and regret over what you chose to value over procreation (for whatever convictions brought you to value those choices.) The most eternal FOMO of all.

>> No.20704734

>>20704509
You are not a psychologist, a scientist, a philosopher, or a priest. What the fuck is your point? Grow up, you read like the journal of an insipid, sniveling child who is mad at his upright father who has failed to reach him with teachings of objective morality, thanks to reddit

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>>20703314
Winning

>> No.20705315

>>20704114
I'm not guilt tripping you I'm stating a fact. And the state of the world doesn't even matter in an anthropocentric perspective anyways because what make humans happy is brain chemistry not whatever is happening outside, human adapt to both luxury and misery and only brain chemistry matters at the end of the day.

>>20704487
Interesting reasoning and partially right conclusions, won't argue the details because too tired.
Do you own link? You seems like a link holder

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I'll go for it anyways
>>20704487
>Recessive genes express themselves most commonly in race mixing because in genetically closer populations the recessive genes get ironed out
By definition recessive genes only express themselves when they meet their double, which has the lowest chances of happening in case of racemixing, the highest chances in cases of incest, and moderate chances in case of non incestuous endogamy.

>Currently we are min-maxing for a total slave class (3rd worlders) and a total overclass (jews, asians, conservative whites having 3+ kids) with the underclass in the middle (libs more or less) totally annihilating themselves genetically. Considering that even east indias population of pajeets is peaking and how hereditary even things like beliefs can be it's actually a really net-positive long term genetic experiment we're doing rn. The technocratic cyberpunk dystopia and chink polution will be the main problems; not genes.
I agree with the overclassand underclass part, but races dont matter as much as you think, most races have a high iq elite that genetically perpetuate itself, even accounting for the regression to the mean, that is greatly overestimated by race realists by the way.

What do you think will happen to the underclass in the cyberpunk dystopia? With everything automatic what job could they accomplish? Are the elites just gonna keep them around (with UBI maybe?) just because they need a mass to feel superior too?

>> No.20705627

>>20704114
>>20704078
This. Some of us just shouldn't have been born
and don't have the right looks or social skills to fully enjoy what life has to bring you. The halo effect never ceases to amaze me.

>> No.20705767

>>20705521
>high iq elite
what's the cut off for high iq elite between the various races?

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>>20705315
>>20705521

>By definition recessive genes only express themselves when they meet their double, which has the lowest chances of happening in case of racemixing, the highest chances in cases of incest, and moderate chances in case of non incestuous endogamy.

I actually don't have my source(s) for the recessive genes thing. But basically you are right about that, but that leads to those genes being selected against in more homogenous populations. The genes that can, if at a bit of a lower chance overall, express themselves when heavy race mixing occurs have not been selected against and in a counterintuitive way become more likely than they'd be and have much worse consequences.

>races dont matter as much as you think, most races have a high iq elite that genetically perpetuate itself, even accounting for the regression to the mean, that is greatly overestimated by race realists by the way.
I also agree with this in a way but you aren't considering that the high IQ elite of Africans are like 110 IQ and are basically average when competing in the same society as high IQ elite Asians. Just to give the most extreme example. Jewish nepotism and other things that are not merely IQ make race matter hugely - in my opinion.

The culling of the underclass is already underway. I think like even 2nd generation Africans go from 8-10 kids to 2-3 kids. Birth control, abortion, materialist wealth & youth obsessed culture etc. etc. etc. there are many factors but I don't think they'll have to crack open those fema coffins as much as people think they will. Maybe I'm wrong about that though. I wouldn't bet either way desu.

and yes I'm somewhat of a linker myself; how could you tell?

>> No.20706137

>>20705767
Estimation from personal experience is
110+ in europe, middle east and north africa (weirdly enough)
80+ in subsaharan africa, maybe 85+ or 90+ in some regions
For india and east asia I don't know but I'm assuming respectively 110+ and 120+

>> No.20706414

>>20705809
>high iq elite asians
biggest fucking meme ever
i literally went to a chinese uni
the girls actually have to work hard, ill admit that, but the guys are lazy as fuck
the typical activities of this "high IQ elite" is playing phone games for hours on end, larping as basketball players, and obsessing over vidya and manga
i guess all this shit is marginally better than gangbanging, doing drugs and stealing shit
the average asian is not smart at all, the only thing they are good at is cramming right before a test because that's literally what their education trains them for, they are only good for getting scores on tests no matter what the subject is

>t. went to most expensive uni in china

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>>20705809
>I actually don't have my source(s) for the recessive genes thing. But basically you are right about that, but that leads to those genes being selected against in more homogenous populations
Agreed, that explains how Icelandic people can all be cousins while having healthy children. There is actually a study showing that it's healthier fornoeople from Iceland to have children with cousins than with strangers.

>>20705809
>I also agree with this in a way but you aren't considering that the high IQ elite of Africans are like 110 IQ and are basically average when competing in the same society as high IQ elite Asians. Just to give the most extreme example.
My opinion is that longterm it won't matter. If you take the US where I can assume the elite black people are 110+, longterm the lower part of the elite will be eaten by the middle and low classes while the smaller higher black elite who is 130+ will get to keep its standing, probably racemixing with high and middle class white and other minorities, getting some new genes in the process that will get selected through whatever selective pressure impose themselves in the future.

It's difficult to predict of the black elite of the elite is going to maintain its existence as one of the dominant groups or if they are just going to get absorbed into the white elite by the process of racemixing, or maybe they will racemix enough to be 90% white but they will still consider themselves black and will use this identity to form a cohesive group, only time will tell.

>and yes I'm somewhat of a linker myself; how could you tell?
You're a visionary with a good grasp of evolutions theory and you're posting on /biz/.

>> No.20706696

>>20706414
What is slight in the averages becomes massive in the extremities, the average north east asians is only slightly smarter than the average western european, about 5 iq points. Not very noticeable when comparing normies together but that mean that there is going to be a way bigger number of 130+ people in NE asians.

Also laziness doesn't show low intelligence, being industrious and being intelligent is two different things. But asians are way more industrious than whites, and it shows even in average people. That's how they get easily addicted to stupid videogame full of grinding and farming btw, the game exploit their attraction toward working at a goal through suffering, it's hacking their brain basically

>> No.20706707

>>20703314
>7 kids
No wonder you dont post often.

>> No.20706965

>>20704531
maybe he forgot because he was dying

>> No.20707023

>>20705809
>thinks bugs can be elite

>> No.20707221

>>20707023
Anyone can be elite with a sufficient amount of power, and for the foreseeable future in out society, money is power. Don't you think asians are capable of having money? Lots of it?

>> No.20707263

>>20700920
Well you either marry yourself to /ic/, /out/ /an/ or to your family.
I should probably post this on /sci/, but have you guys heard any stories of cloning your parents to take care of them as your children? maybe even grandparents and grand-grandparents for the sci-fi idea.

>> No.20707290

>>20707263
Seems fucking creepy tbqh

>> No.20707314

>>20707290
It does, but it's also cool.

>> No.20707362

>>20703933
Cringe

>> No.20707439

>>20703456
So you killed your dad because you were such a fuck up?
Seems like you’ll never dig yourself out of that whole.
Fuck you.