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I told you guys this was going to happen. I told you guys by 2058 Amazon was going to buy half of America with exarpeepee and short it.

when you think about the current trends in society one thing becomes clear: the future doesn't need people.

Automation means that any job you can think of right now will at some point in the future no longer exist. Reddit brain retards think this is great because life will be like their star trek episodes, but the reality is that without jobs to do humans lose the ability to improve their station in life. If you do not have the ability to trade your labor for capital, how do you intend to acquire it at all? The answer is you will not be able to, and all the things that we consider meaningful in life will be outside of your reach. Family, home, friends, possessions.

If you look at the rise of the internal combustion engine and what it did to horse populations you'll see the future of humanity. Horses were no longer needed for the transportation of people and goods, and so their population diminished from their peak in 1906. Currently they are kept primarily for entertainment and leisure reasons, and the same will be true for the people of the future.

Another factor to consider is the propagation of anti-reproduction ideologies that are propped up by current governments and social movements. Homosexuals cannot reproduce. Transgenders remove their reproductive organs, feminists refuse to form families as do MGTOWs on the other side. It is awfully convenient that all of these anti-reproduction ideologies are occuring right in time for automation to make redundant all of human labor. If you read the writing on the wall the next few years to decades at most are the final time in human history to acquire private capital before the culling will take place. Humans that are redundant will be sterilized and the world population will be reduced to those who have significant private capital, their cohort, and the remaining redundant population they maintain in preserves for leisure and research purposes.

>>20535993
Alvin Toffler in his book Future Shock writes about three main means to power.
Money, knowledge and violence.
As long as these three have any role (which they will) nothing will change.
With money you can get knowledge and violence,
with knowledge you can get money and violence,
with violence you can get money and knowledge.
Until resources are equally distributed to everyone (will never happen) or until everyone is equally knowledgeable (not going to happen) or everyone is equally strong and able to inflict violence (also not going to happen) NOTHING WILL HAPPEN EVER.
Welcome to the world of eternal struggle and status quo of the human condition.

>>20536374
violence will be automated (we already have drones, how long before we have drone soldiers?), money will be out of reach due to inability to trade labor for money, and knowledge will only be given in order to control you (we see this already in schools, google's control of search results ect). So your point is invalidated.
>Until resources are equally distributed to everyone
of course that won't happen. We're moving towards a neofeudalism prior to the upper class culling the redundant workers.
>until everyone is equally knowledgeable
Look at the social movements occuring today. The only thing that is equally spread is the uncertainty and lack of knowledge which is leading to the rise of cults like Q and BLM.
>everyone is equally strong and able to inflict violence
drone strikes

Fuck off fatties

>>20536939
the point is not invalidated. knowledge is still a valid power factor against violence even if it is automated. if anything, the automation will be its' main weakness. automation is dumb. maybe I am being hopeful and trying to cope with the fact that we are mostly fucked but I still believe in miracles (of the technical type) but with the severe lack of knowledge I admit its far fetched.

>>20535617
They literally never thought she would lose.

>>20535617
who the fuck wants to own that shithole?

I will add another power factor which is space (not as in cosmos but more like territory. the only thing left in this case is being far enough from troubles to be able to avoid them (until time runs out).

>>20535993
>>20536939
Mega based. He's correct. Should make a post about this. Look at all the anti-human ideologies. It's all about depopulation...

also, complexity might become so severe that this "perfect system of techno-automated violent oppression" simply collapses under its own own weight) which will bring us back to a simpler world where there are more possibilities.

>>20537091
the point is completely invalidated friend. You're thinking of todays world and projecting it on the future (probably, this is why most people fuck up). When every career is automated how do you expect people to acquire knowledge? You don't gain real knowledge from reading books, you gain it from applying knowledge to the real world over the course of many years throught he work that you do. Doctors, engineers, lawyers, and scientists are the ones who are going to be out of work from this coming industrial revolution, so the knowledge those and other career communities collectively hold will be totally lost. Go ask an engineer today to rebuild something made with outdated tech like clockwork or steam power and you'll see that have to start all over and rebuild the knowledge and skill base that was lost when those careers went away.

And even if you had all the knowledge in the world, you would not be able to combat the automated and self-learning systems of the future.

Stop clinging onto falsehoods and realize that you need to acquire capital to secure your position in the world of tomorrow.

there can be so much order until it breaks down into chaos. technology is not an exception. reversion to the mean type stuff will happen in the end.

>>20537262
well I keep a few cards under my sleeve for that like trading strategies. currently building a track record so that I can attract capital to trade with.
another card is actually fucking off from normie society to a country like russia which is basically going home since I was born and bred there. knowledge or space are my current cards available.

>>20537179
>>20537209
it won't be oppression because it will be what people have been conditioned to want. Nobody is forcing transgenders to castrate themselves, they actually pay for the privilege of having their sexual organs removed.

What is going to happen is that the ruling classes of the world will no longer need the underclass to make and do things for them because it will be automated systems doing it. Jobs will go away and people will need UBI to sustain their lives. There will be lots of articles about overpopulation and astroturfed social movements protesting against reproduction and the family unit. As a response to the protests they originated, the ruling elite will craft laws that provide benefits for those who voluntarily sterilize themselves, and demerits for those who refuse. You can see the basic framework of this system being developed in china through the social credit system.

Eventually the only way to recieve UBI is if you are sterilized, and within a generation or two the results described in my initial post will realized. The world will be a paradise for the extremely wealthy few hundred million remaining, run on automated systems that will eventually take them out to colonize space.

>>20537451
There will be two classes.
Inside the walls of the city and outside. Just like in the old school feudalist system. Those on the inside will be complete slaves. Those on the outside will be left to their own devices since no one will need them. Life on the outside will be rough and few will survive. The only thing that will keep people alive on the outside is strength of character and the human spirit and distance. Just like always. Those who took refuge to the mountains always lived the harshest of lives but were always more free than the city dwellers. That is the only hope we can have. I refuse to accept a vision where there is no hope at all. You might as well commit suicide then.

>>20537718
He is super based and correct. Everything in politics is a Red herring to what is truly to come. Why do you think the UN has "Agenda 2030?" What do they call it? Sustainable development. That's code for "Life without the dirty human masses"

>>20537718
I agree with this as well. This is in alot of your 80's sci fi action programming like Bladerunner, Demolition Man, Judge Dredd and others. You will have the rich elite living in their techno utopias, while there is the "wild people" living on the outskirts.

But remember those "wild people" are viewed as the enemy and most likely will be hunting down in one way or another.

>>20537179
>>20535993

This is a good thing. The world is fucked because there are about 7 billion wagies too many. It's going to be a shitshow and those with wealth and assets are going to be the ones living the Elysium life.

Why the hell do you think everyone on this board is constantly discussing how many shitcoins it takes to get into the citadel? The only way the earth and future society gets unfucked is if the population is substantially reduced in a short amount of time.

Just make sure your holding the right bags when it does.

>>20538013
>The world is fucked because there are about 7 billion wagies too many.
I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Ready anon?

The world is not populated by 7 billion people. You're being lied to. There is no world overpopulation. It's just an excuse for them to carry out their agenda.

There is nothing moral or ethical about it. Period.

>>20537942
the thing with these inside the walls utopias is that it is a curse. To stay in you have to accept either being a slave to a master or being a slave to your capital. Either way, you are a slave. You are a slave but your material necessities are provided. To stay inside you will also have to be brainwashed to a heavy degree to stay sane and functioning.
Outside you will be free but always under the risk of kidnapping, scientific experiments performed on you (just like in the last century where USA, Russia and France performed nuclear tests on unsuspecting populations far outside of "metropolis". It really is shit on both sides in different ways. Inside there is a certain comfort but with a minimum of iq points you will realise the dark side of being on the "inside" fairly quickly.

There are two types of people. One of them believes in a benevolent power which has granted us free will and where existence is what ever you make out of it.
The other one believes in a malevolent alien species that has created earth as a simulation with a clear end goal where free will is not really important because the whole game is rigged anyways.

I am more of a free will type of guy who believes in the unpredictability of this universe and the whole "chaos theory" side of things where no matter how much someone tries to plot shit, shit will never go as planned in the long run.

>>20537718
free humans, to the extent they exist, will exist in nature preserves. One reason to do this is the value that having a control group will have for the breakaway civilization that will rule over them. If they fuck around with their genes ect it will be worthwhile to have undiluted origianl breed stock to access occasionally.

The other aspect of non-elites will be the inherent value of a human body, as that will be the only thing they possess. Sex, torture porn, spare organs will be the majority of what their income is. Entertainment may continue as well. Additionally, there will always be a subset of the elite who take pride in having organic human servants as a status symbol. Thats it. That's all you've got.

>>20537942
thank you based encouragement anon.

>>20538404
People will be raised on human farms. They dont want people gathering together and having human contact. The way they will actually kill the masses is through virtual reality. They want people online, on the digital plane. They want people identifying with their avatars and not themselves.

This is why they have this virus event. its not just to roll out the economic reset, but to condition people to stay inside. Its "Ready Player One". They want you inside playing your stupid video games, watching your stupid entertainment.

The future means little physical contact with people in the real world. As little as possible. You sit in your I pod, get it, POD, doing your exercises for credits or whatever, and if you want to have sex you do it with a robot or virtually.

don't feel like clicking on posts

what most of you are missing is this has all happened many times before, the first being the invention of the wheel. humans get replaced all the time, industries too, and they die off, but then rich people and whoever is left have a bunch of bastards who want all this crazy bullshit using the new tech from automatization. 80% of the human population won't reproduce like the other human age advancements.

>>20535617
I didn't really get the buy Canada part, and they don't explain it. buy all the land? corrupt the entire government?

it's just the UBI being stockpiled first to be distributed.

>>20538404
>the thing with these inside the walls utopias is that it is a curse. To stay in you have to accept either being a slave to a master or being a slave to your capital. Either way, you are a slave. You are a slave but your material necessities are provided. To stay inside you will also have to be brainwashed to a heavy degree to stay sane and functioning.

there won't be walls. There will be cities like there are today except extremely advance and low traffic. People will have a great time in them, but there will also be suburbs and rural homesteads that are just as advanced and dope to live on. The "outside the walls" will lterally be on the level of national parks. The poors will be dead in a generation or two, and before that happens they'll be corralled by legacy systems like policing and tomorrow's systems like panopticon level social monitoring that determines whether people can travel or not (think covid).

>There are two types of people. One of them believes in a benevolent power which has granted us free will and where existence is what ever you make out of it.
The other one believes in a malevolent alien species that has created earth as a simulation with a clear end goal where free will is not really important because the whole game is rigged anyways.

the majority of people that make it won't even be bad people. They'll have been indocrinated by the social engineers into valuing low population levels and environmental stewardship. They'll use UBI to ease the suffering of the poors, and sterilize them willingly rather than genocide them actively. It's just the way the world is going and it's not even a moral question at this point. If a train was bearing down on you wouldn't think about whether it was moral or not, you'd get out of the way if you could. The train just IS, and automation just IS, and getting out of the way means acquiring capital NOW.

>>20537107
It's less about wanting to own it as it is utterly humiliating everyone in it. Imagine the salty sadness and rage from those smug fucking leafs as they magically become the very same Americans they hate.

>>20538702
>what most of you are missing is this has all happened many times before,

absolutely, and thats why i'm so sure this is going to happen. However, it's going to happen on a greater scale than ever before. The automated systems that will eventually become hard AI are not comparable to the invention of the wheel. There is a finality to this development.

>>20538713
>there won't be walls. There will be cities like there are today except extremely advance and low traffic. People will have a great time in them, but there will also be suburbs and rural homesteads that are just as advanced and dope to live on. The "outside the walls" will lterally be on the level of national parks. The poors will be dead in a generation or two, and before that happens they'll be corralled by legacy systems like policing and tomorrow's systems like panopticon level social monitoring that determines whether people can travel or not (think covid).

You're literally describing Demolition man and so many other Sci Fi dystopia/utopia settings

This has all been planned well in advance.

>>20535993
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>>20538744
tldr buy xrp gold and silver or stay poor and die. they want to kill us by 2029.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UMfIsgcnJjrF/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa50XfclnYk&t=1450s

>>20538702
well, that is the thing. is there really a finality to it? how much can you plot before shit starts to crack?
Many technologies have been described as a finality to progress, a final nail in the coffin before progress stops. But what happens afterwards? progress never stops just as arms races never stop or how there is no perfect program that will never have bugs again. Shit is too complex.
Then you read about AI that is apparently so smart that it throws around our assumptions about chaos theory like this one:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/machine-learnings-amazing-ability-to-predict-chaos-20180418/
does it REALLY predict chaos? for how long? isnt machine learning just another fancy statistics program?

>>20538995
it works until it doesnt and that is the beauty of chaos.

>>20538896
yeah this has all been planned in advance and it's pretty obvious. the reason people don't see it is because they don't have access to real history. All the general public knows about the history of the world are a series of propaganda texts that are constantly refined and reproduced to stunt our mental faculties. If I were a part of a wealthy legacy family, the first thing i'd do was create a family historical library to make sure the later generations had access to real history and could therefor have an overwhelming advantage over the rest of the population.

>>20537451
>He thinks he can join the Satanic Elite in the future dystopia
Anon, you will not be allowed to. Dream on. If this is what happens its GG for humanity. This future is only for the benefit of the 10000 or so sellout elites and no one else.

All these supposedly bad things you guys are talking about are great. All the poor, ugly and stupid people die off, while the smart and attractive live on. The only way you could possibly be against it is if you're in the former category and not the latter. In which case, no one gives a fuck about your life let alone opinion.

>>20539354
It doesn't include anyone except the Satanic elite you dumb nigger

>>20539340
no, i'm not hoping to join the satanic elite. I'm putting my chips on the chance that this is just a technological necessity and not some mediteranean mystery religion. Yes, if the elite are satanic pedophiles in their totality shit is pretty fucked regardless of if i secure capital or not.

anyways we might be at the end of an era. The industrial revolution as we know it. Promises of a new industrial revolution a la chainlink smartcontract automated everything might also be shortlived. Everyone thinking that it is obvious might be a sign that it will be shortlived. People thought we would have flying cars by year 1980. Did not happen and in fact we are still burning oil and coal. Sure there is nuclear but its fucking cumbersome. All these predictions are all coming from people pretty high on their horses. Its almost as if all this is the perfect scenario which will soon be shown false and will be deemed too ambitious and we will have a much simpler society. Maybe the singularity will be canceled any day now. Too many factors. So many in fact that not even the most advanced AI can predict anything valuable.

>>20539488
Cope.

Call them what you want, but life will be amazing for them, while you and your ilk will be long forgotten.

During the Bronze Age you could send a letter from Scandinavia to Egypt. That was a pretty advanced international system of societies. There was not enough entropy and the states were strong and were able to keep stability for systems like the postal service to actually work. As soon as the mediterranean civilisations started to crumble all this vanished as if it never existed. The same can happen to the current "order"

>>20539796
Yours too you dumb fuck

And the supposed "new" order is even more sophisticated than the current one. What makes you think that it will work out? Automation? Automation also depends on so many things like a house of cards. As soon as you remove one or two cards, the whole things falls down. The only difference between the bronze age and now and the future is the size of the house of cards.

>>20539834
>its all about me
This is why you fail in life. Always thinking about yourself, and refusing a better world just because your shitty genes wont exist in it

>>20539854
>he doesn't hold the chainlink ERC-20 token

>>20539925
thats right, I trade that shit.

>>20539973
>he admits to frivolously risking the one piece of the god protocol automation future that, through the literal mercy shown by sergey of nazorov, the common man has access to

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>>20539973
oppsie, forgot pic related

>>20539550
What if I told you that not only is it for the Satanic Elite, but the Quantum System that is coming is actually a gateway for demons? What if I told you that AI = Legion?

You're a smart cookie...go ahead and take a look at some of the computer terminology.