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>Bullion dealers
https://www.apmex.com/
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://www.bgasc.com/
https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.provide>ntmetals.com/
https://www.silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://www.sprottmoney.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://www.kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://www.coinflation.com

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://www.kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://www.mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed]
https://www.usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo [Embed]
Magnets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY [Embed]
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA
https://www.youtube.com/user/GoldAndSilverClub1
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCED7G7CZfqdSV9zttlr1M_g
https://www.youtube.com/user/belangp

https://pastebin.com/8HW6EdGt

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>>20529364
It's not too late

>> No.20529448

prev thread
>>20517824
put that in the op

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>>20529364

>> No.20529489

$20 silver here we go lads!

>> No.20529505

wow linkies are having a rough day to immediately blow out the other thread. whats everyone buying right now? silver? gold? holding?

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>>20529487

>> No.20529528

When are you guys gonna stop accoomulating? Once the cheapest silver I can get goes past $30 an ounce I'm done and I'm locked in for the moon ride, how about you all?

>> No.20529538

It just won't stop going up. Short covering? More record deliveries coming?
JP Morgan getting Rico'd because of their manipulation?

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>>20529538
Its time

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>>20529528
whatever, whenever, when i can afford it

>> No.20529601

has golden state mint ever made goldplated copper rounds?

>> No.20529612

>>20529505
I'm holding. I might make a small buy tonight. I've got to check over my finances again.

>> No.20529629

>>20529505
whats happened to link? typical crypto shenanigans?

>> No.20529635

>>20529538
they already were getting eyeballed by numerous DOJ agencies for their shit. theyre just gonna move the dam further up river. problem is the wash might beat them there

>> No.20529638

what would cause the price of silver to go down in this climate?
more sellers, i suppose, but anything else?
what would cause people to sell?

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>>20529577
OH SHIT

>> No.20529655

>>20529528
It's not a question of price. If Central Banks around the world stop money printing, I will stop buying metals. If they keep printing, I keep buying.

>>20529577
I'm jealous of anyone who has a Jesus clearing the temple

>> No.20529659

>>20529538
?????????
Driving me insane. Maybe the second round of checks (ie dollar dissolver) is on the way.

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>>20529505

>> No.20529667

>>20529629
yes lmao
>>20529612
i grabbed 20 oz, i fomod a bit but its all in hand, probably should have held the cash

>> No.20529685

>>20529638
More producers and less industrial demand.

>> No.20529688

>>20529528
Not enitrely sure. I have 100oz physical which is probably bare minimum to make it through a collapse, but I also have 600 shares of PSLV that I could sell off to buy more physical at some point. I dont know how bad premiums will get if spot price moons.

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20529729

25oz stack-let
Pull the trigger or am I FOMO?

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Just arrived int he mail from Silver Shield. Imma deface them and give them to my friends. Anyone want to see my work when it's done?

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>>20529729
fomo but at this point do it, id reccomend paying a bit more for fractionality

>> No.20529794

>>20529729
FOMO but wont matter when spot hits $60 to $100 in a couple years or if we revert to metal backed currency

>> No.20529819

>>20529729
Fomo, also consider 1 oz rounds.

>> No.20529820

>>20529751
Don't deface silver shield or give it away. They can almost always command prices double spot after a few months

>> No.20529821

>>20529667
>>20529629

I don't understand why people are still wasting their time with crypto. Half the threads on /biz/ are still crypto exit scams. If people want to multiply their money, all they have to do is buy miners. It's so easy and obvious. When are they going to realize this?

>> No.20529851

>>20529753
I plan on stuffing them in the safe for the long term
>>20529794
My fingers are crossed I can average down the rest of the month.
>>20529819
I have a handful, but those aren't doing it for me. I'd like a few 100oz for the safe that I forget about until I need them at $<??>/oz

>> No.20529891

>>20529820
Is that a fact? Good to know. Imma do it anyway as a symbol of binding for my little clique. We're all in our 30s now and I'm a sentimental little faggot so I gotsa.

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>>20529821
i dunno, i wish shitcoin general was a thing, once you hit a dollar you can have a thread. pmg has always felt like a bunker to me, cozy and a bit spastic like watching my brothers play fight.

>> No.20529938

>>20529851
Then bury 10 tubes of 1oz or 10 10oz bars. Rounds are more liquid.

>> No.20529954

>>20529729
Prices are just beginning to break out so it’s still a relatively good time to buy. But have you considered 1oz rounds or 5 / 10oz bars? The higher divisibility may afford you increased liquidity. Granted I haven’t checked PM prices in the last couple days, however it appeared premiums were identical between large bars and smaller denominations.

>> No.20530047

>>20529954
Premium seems to be 2.30 v 2.70 for the 100 Scottsdale as opposed to generic 1oz, but it seems Scottsdale also doesn't charge sales tax, to that's an extra $136 savings

>> No.20530054

>>20529938
>>20529954
Kek, both of us fucked up our math
10 10oz
4/5 tubes of rounds

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should i buy 20 ASE, 25 krugerrand. what do?

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>>20530095
krugerrands, only buy krugerrands

>> No.20530166

>>20530146
thanks. that was my initial instinct, but i needed reassurance.

>> No.20530191

Legit Spooked this is it. Total Fed Controlled Monetary Collapse.

>> No.20530200

i'm going to sleep

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>>20530166
no worries anon, ase premium can trick you into less silver
he just left, with krugs

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>>20529938
Is there that much need for liquidity? I'm not playing 'Mad Max' and wanting to buy bread and whores. My intent is to take them to a dealer years from now - and they can certainly move 100oz.
>>20530054
Maybe I'll sit on it until tonight and see if it sinks in.

>> No.20530269

>>20529663
>leaf
Nice order, brother!
How is silvergoldbull? I've only ever ordered from TD

>> No.20530322

>>20530220
my dumbass just ordered 2 tubes by accident... oh well guess im done buying now. lol

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>>20530230
Or best of both worlds - pick up some 10oz stackers to calm my fomo for a bit.

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What does this mean https://kingworldnews.com/silver-short-squeeze-alert-sprott-silver-trust-to-purchase-1-5-billion-of-physical-silver-a-jaw-dropping-8-8-of-annual-global-production/

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>>20530322
a blessing in disguise, although hard to miss lol

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>>20529364
Reply "Get FUCKED J.P. Morgan!" to this post and silver will moon at the same time the bank loses their stack.

>> No.20530405

>>20530230
Granted, I don’t know your jurisdiction/region so my insight may be invalid. Provident Metals has silver buffalos for $22.01 each for any quantity - saving you ~$70 for the same 100oz.
https://www.providentmetals.com/1-oz-silver-buffalo-round.html

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>>20529487
very nice

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>>20530392
i think it was a subconscious decision... oh well

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>>20530322
if you're not 100% in silver and short on cash you're not done buying imo
>>20530358
it means $1000 silver soon

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>>20530394
Get FUCKED J.P. Morgan

>> No.20530612

>>20530405
I appreciate it.
I'm in a taxed US state, so you'd take away $130 (6%) from the $70 savings and I'd be in the hold $50.
I guess deep down inside I just want a big ass bar or three to say I have a big ass bar or three. And one day when I'm gone, my wife or kids will open the safe and say, 'Jesus! Look at the size of that!'

>> No.20530628

>>20530358
Holy fuck does Sprott want to be hunt brothers'd?

>> No.20530647

>>20530269
I've never had any problems. They ship pretty quick too

>> No.20530661

>>20530230
Everyone should have a bag of Mercury dimes for barter. $100 face can still be found for 16x and 14 dimes make 1 ozt

>> No.20530706

>>20515965
>I've heard of jippo loggers. i forgot the exact entomology of the term. but always remembered it was indicative of poor, unsafe, dangerous practices, among other things.
i didn't know there were jippo miners
apparently it's a slur aimed at either egyptians or more likely in the US, gypsies. The implication being someone that fulfills the terms of a contract and then moves on, without regard to what happens after they leave.

in mining jippos are just contract miners, or mining contractors depending on the job. In one case we lease a property for a certain amount of time and then mine as much ore as we can in that time period to maximize profits. In the second case we're paid by the foot to drive some amount of adit or shaft as quickly as possible.

of course both types of contract rely on speed to make money, so safety was historically a major problem in employing jippo miners. The only upsides were either 1. getting paid to do nothing while the contract miners do all the work, or 2. getting unprofitable adits and shafts driven very quickly.

Now jippo miners are regulated by MSHA the same way other miners are, so we aren't actually responsible for that many mining accidents and safety violations. It still happens though. But now the people that wind up getting killed are almost always the jippo miners themselves if they fuck up.

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Reminder there was much fud and pmg was pretty dead last couple of years put together a random montage of random pmg posts didn’t have any screen-caps of 'peter schiff was right' posts or any early debt clock of sub $400 silver.
it's been fun frens feels like the train is going to leave anytime this year

>> No.20530764

>>20530460
i mean im not 100% done buying but i want to make sure im not being taken for a ride by FOMO

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>FOFOMO

>> No.20530813

>>20530394
Get FUCKED J.P. Morgan!

>> No.20530832

If there is a short squeeze, is there anything that stops the shorters from being able to settle in cash?

>> No.20530849

>>20530798
fear of full on missing out

>> No.20530935

>>20530832
If the Hunt Brothers tell us anything, the answer is "no."

>> No.20530972

>>20530832
That could only be done by admitting the comex has completely failed as a delivery mechanism and would cause chaos in the worldwide silver market as every dealer uses silver shorts to remain market neutral when they make buy orders for inventory.

>> No.20530987

anyone have the screencap of the krugerrand post that explains how buying krugs is fucking the SA government because they are selling their commodities too cheaply?

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>>20530987

>> No.20531022
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>>20530935
Are they /ourguys/?

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Just got a nice and minty Underground Sea.

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>>20531018
thanks fren

>> No.20531072

>>20530987
if gold costs $3 per ounce to mine, is worth $1800 per ounce on the open market, and you sell it at $1750 per ounce, did you lose money?

>> No.20531103

>>20531022
Certainly look that way.

>>20531072
The idea is that, long term, they are losing out.

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wtf bros...

>> No.20531144

>>20531072
i was meaning more towards what the image states. they are selling their valuable assets cheaply in exchange to fund their social programs and generally wasteful projects, ultimately we have the wealth

>> No.20531158

>>20531072
>if gold costs $3 per ounce to mine, is worth $1800 per ounce on the open market, and you sell it at $1750 per ounce, did you lose money?
yes, you are short 1 ounce of money

>> No.20531168

>>20530972
Thanks fren, that sounds logical. So if short sellers were to try to cash settle, it would mean there was that much less physical going to buyers, so it would make the physical shortage more acute. Am I understanding correctly?

>> No.20531178

>>20530706
In my neck of the woods "jippo" always meant shoddy, poorly managed, dangerous. Basically work people wouldnt normally do. Thats why I used it when talking about those dredgers in Nome. Thats desperado territory. I meant no disrespect on your part.

>> No.20531195

>>20531103
>The idea is that, long term, they are losing out.
aren't we all?
>>20531144
if they hold our currency they also hold our wealth

>> No.20531249

>>20531178
no disrespect taken, it means the same here.

it's just how contract miners worked because margins were so high and ore tenor so variable that if they did things by the book they'd have never made money.

as it was they cut corners and literally destroyed mines to make a profit. It's just the way the game was played.

>> No.20531299

>>20531178
it's still true with contractors of any sort.

most of us won't cut corners very deep on safety, but other than that you gotta keep a close eye on what we do because we make our living by delivering less than you asked for.

>> No.20531339

>>20531168
Absolutely. If they need to cover a short, they will need to buy it from the open market. What if nobody wants to sell at current prices? Then you need to pump the price which causes you to lose even more money on shorts so you need to cover even more positions. This is what happened in 2011.

>> No.20531353

>>20529638
jews

>> No.20531357

>>20531249
I expect to see our type of work to start making a comeback in the near future, as there is a shortage of good underground miners younger than 60 and its only getting worse, especially up here, the guys I worked with from Tyson Mining were desperate for young blood to send underground.

>> No.20531475

>>20531357
I did a contract for Tyson years back.

but yeah, underground is dying here. Open Pit is so much cheaper and easier. And safer. One example, the Climax Moly Mine in my are used to be all underground and employed ~3,000 people. Now it's open pit, processes ten times more ore, and employs ~350 people.

underground miners are being phased out in the US at least. I currently have 5 people on my crew with their MSHA underground certifications including myself, but we make far more money contracting than we every would as employees of Tyson or anyone else.

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Hmmm....

>> No.20531602

>>20531475
a lot of projects here in BC are going for both types of mining. Small scale open pit for the high grade material near surface, than underground to chase the veins with less impact. Futures looking great for us at least while PM prices are like this.

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>>20531590
Enhance.

>> No.20531637

>>20531590
This is going to Rip Faces Off.

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cmon you bitch...

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>>20531590
>>20531623
Enhance... OH SHIT!

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>>20530628
>>20530358

Alisdair McCleod:

"This is MEGA. No wonder silver is up nearly 3% today. Liquidity in the paper market is close to zero.
SILVER SHORT SQUEEZE ALERT: Sprott Silver Trust To Purchase $1.5 Billion Of Physical Silver, A Jaw-Dropping 8.8% Of Annual Global Production!"

"The Swaps on Comex are only slightly short but they will want to keep an even book. Don't know where the physical will come from. I guess Sprott will end up taking delivery on Comex as well as London. Won't do any harm to the gold price, either!"

https://twitter.com/MacleodFinance/status/1285299968446783488

>> No.20531716

>>20529729

On the basis of what Alisdair McCleod is saying, there may not be any physical silver for you to buy soon. This might be it. >>20531678

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>>20531678

>> No.20531748

>>20531602
we do have some UG mining still, but it's smaller projects.

I think the starting pay here is about $25/hr for surface work, $35/hr for underground, and well over $250/hr for contracting. The wise miner is self-employed. But contractors have very limited uses. Nobody is going to run a whole mine paying people upwards of $250/hr. So I don't work on one mine, I work on dozens for relatively short periods of time.

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just ordered some ASE's off monumental metals. they changed up their ordering process and it looks pretty shady to be honest, the prices of coins weren't updating in the checkout and it wouldn't tell you how tax you had to pay until after you agreed to pay for the order.
i'm half expecting to get a email telling me they're charging me an extra 50 bucks

>> No.20531826

>>20531678
>$1.5 Billion Of Physical Silver
>>20531716
At $20/oz, that's 5.1 million pounds (lb)
I guess that's why silver is up 3%

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>only 160 oz of silver

>> No.20532056

>>20531127
Is there any truth to this?

>> No.20532069

do you stack jewelry?

>> No.20532070

>>20530095

25 is more than 20

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>>20531914
No better day than today, next stop (after we clear $21 this week) is $25, then $35.

>> No.20532137

/PMG/ bros, help me out. I'm aware of findbullionprice but a lot of deals aren't on it.

If I want to pick up 100 toz of .999+ silver today, what's the best deal? Best I can find is cyber rounds at MM for $22.30/toz.

>> No.20532146

>>20532056
>Is there any truth to this?
not likely. But if they did and you can prove it they'll give you a quick refund rather than have you complaining on the internets.

any company that guarantees their product should be fine since if they accidentally ship some fakes you can always return them

>> No.20532160

>>20532069
its hard to get a good resale value for it. but if you can find them for the right price then, its not a bad investment...

>> No.20532187

>>20531716
if thats true those hundreds of small silver claims across Canada and the US might go bananas soon.

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>>20530095
Recent year ASE's are all full of milk spots and also black oil spots. Avoid 2020-2019 (especially 2020) ASE's.

Anyways 2020 krugs are also full of milk spots.

>> No.20532231

>>20530394
Get FUCKED J.P. Morgan!

>> No.20532249

>>20532137
we use the findbullion site more to not get ripped off. since we all have our favorite sites to use.
but that sounds like a good price, the krugerands were the best i found for govt minted coins. and if you think about ASE's used to sell for 3 dollars above spot, and their still going for roughly 3-4 dollars more then generics. i'm buying more ASE's despite the extra price

>> No.20532256

>>20532219
2021 said they will start puting them into rfdi chips to be followed by the glow in the darks

>> No.20532280

>>20532069
It is much better to buy bullion that says silver pressed on it or coins that are recognizably silver. Coins are probably better because they are more difficult to fake, but bullion is cheaper.

>> No.20532293

>>20532256
what you don't like your silver and gold being tracked by satelites? then don't worry i'm sure the govt wouldn't put the special ones in your silver...

>> No.20532296

>>20531748
yea when I get a call for an underground job its usually through Tyson or a similar company. I make $40 an hour on average but if I am doing consulting or training work for new guys its in the $250 range. When I am doing that sort of work I usually end up sticking to one small project a season as its easier to find places to stay long term.

>> No.20532363

>>20532256
The answer, for the discerning purveyor of dystopian goods and services, is to only accept the trusted yet untraceable AsahiCorp CyberToken.

>> No.20532447

>>20532296
In the US at least I'm allowed to buy an RV and deduct it as a business expense, so that fixes the housing problem on the road if you've got enough work to pay for it. Then when the business is done with it and it's depreciated I just convert it to personal use and camp in it or let family use it.

I liked Tyson, they're a good outfit in my experience. Solid. I didn't deal with them personally as much as my crew did, but everything about the experience was good.

>> No.20532466

>>20532249
Thanks, fren.

Do you think maples / ASE will keep their $1-4 premium even as silver hits $100 and above, or will the premium increase proportionally?

>> No.20532483

>>20530832
I'm pretty sure it would open up a big lawsuit. Investors paid storage fees for silver that never existed.

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>>20529364
is JMB bugged? spot price is LOW

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>>20532466
well first, silver won't break 80/oz USD can you quote me on that.
but yes the premiums will still be around and since the 2021 ASE design will have a RFID chip in it the premiums on the ASE's from before that should even go up

>> No.20532632

>>20532604
You will sell early

>> No.20532642

I really ant to pull the trigger on a 100oz Scottsdale

>> No.20532725

>>20531195
not if we are subject to hyperinflation. every dollar they hold is losing value by the day.

>> No.20532762

>>20532725
true.

but then we've made the same mistake they did every time we sell commodities at a profit on the global market in exchange for inflating paper.

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>>20529751
Annnnd here we go. Tokens of friendship to be held, passed down, or tossed out and forgotten. My sentimentality always get the betters of me.

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>>20532577
false alarm, back to normal

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>>20531914
You're miles ahead of normies, fren
We're all going to make it
Central Bank of NEETS soon

>> No.20532887

>>20532845
clean your damn mouse pad

>>20532642
do it anon, you can brick flex on everyone

>> No.20532912

>>20532604
Why wont it go over 80

>> No.20532938

>>20530394
Get fucked JP Morgan!

>> No.20532942

>>20532845
the real silver is the friends we made along the way

>> No.20532972

>>20532887
It's just old, anon. Very, very old.

>> No.20533004

>>20532870
I went to check if prices were down too if you tried to order but they had fixed it by then, but I saw the spot down at 19.03 initially

>> No.20533014

>>20532912
theres ridiculous amounts of silver under the ground in mines ready to be mined. but no ones is mining them because its not worth it.
as soon as silver hits 30/oz expect all the pure silver mines to start producing again.
and as prices increase, demand will fall because collectors won't drop 3 times as much for the same amount, they'll buy a third of what they could with the same amount of fiat.

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20533040

>>20532887
B R I C K S

>> No.20533059

>>20533014

Bond market is larger than the stock market, and, if we are going to have a complete destruction of all currencies soon, the demand for silver will obviously increase exponentially. Those mines will be busy for many decades to come.

>> No.20533064

>>20533040
THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS!

>> No.20533107

>>20533059
but there won't be a complete destruction of all currencies...
we'll see a period of inflation like the 1970's caused in the 1980's. think 15% interest rates on mortgages

>> No.20533164

>>20533107

McCleod is predicting it before the end of this year. Banking crisis imminent, governments caught in a debt trap, asset bubbles greater than ever before in human history, and liable to crash if yields go even to 1%. It is going to be so costly to suppress yields and bail out the banks that the U. S. dollar will be completely trashed. Owing to a loss of confidence in fiat, the other currencies will follow with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY

>> No.20533169

>>20533014
It'll take mines 3-5+ years to reopen and scale up production. Prices can move much faster than that.

>> No.20533187

>>20532972
its one of those old 1$ custom image pads from like 2010 isint it

>> No.20533243

>>20533107
Then why is gold near all time highs in nearly all currencies?

>> No.20533270

>>20533107
>think 15% interest rates on mortgages

It can't happen without completely crashing the stock market and forcing massively indebted nations to default. You're not appreciating how fucked up everything is.

>> No.20533279

>>20533243
>>20533107
You can also read this as
>why are all currencies at all time low with respect to gold

>> No.20533281
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20533281

Bros...

>> No.20533283

>>20533164
well, hes wrong. what can i say, its just going to be high inflation until the govt starts reducing the money supply, this isn't some strange occurrence thats never happened before.
>>20533169
fully expect the mines to all go in operation once the vaccine for the Wu Flu is released at the end of the year
>>20533243
because inflation makes money worth less, and without massive manipulation gold has naturally risen with inflation

>> No.20533288

>>20533164
it's possible but the alternative is what the anon you're responding to said.

austerity instead of bailouts, increased interest rates, massive inflation, economic depression, and the dollar comes out stronger in the end.

we've done it before. Boomers will be really sad, but they've been broke before so they'll deal.

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20533293

>>20530394
GET FUCKED JEW PENIS MORGAN!!!!

>> No.20533306

>>20533107
>15% interest rates on mortgages
I wish, but not going to happen.
>Let's string out the goy on debt for the rest of their life on overpriced shit because ... look! low interest rates!

>> No.20533324

>>20533281
Hail Hortler

>> No.20533342

>>20533169
might take longer if the mines have been off line for longer than 30 years. I expect 10 years at the latest with modern regulations.

>> No.20533361

>>20533306
>I wish, but not going to happen.
I think that's what they were at in the 80's, right? It's not as profitable for real estate people, but banks would probably rather make more money off safe loans than less off risky ones.

>> No.20533370

>>20533283
>until the govt starts reducing the money supply
The government is not going to reduce the money supply they are going to print enough money to make the entire derivative market whole.

>> No.20533417

>>20533288

Owing to the size of the debt and the budget, if the U. S. tried to do now what Volcker did in the 80s, and allowed yields to rise to 15%, stocks and real estate would crash by 90% or more, while public pensions, public schools, medicare, most government jobs, and most of the U. S. military, would be wiped out in the blink of an eye. The people in power could not let that happen. It would be too politically inexpedient. They will choose hyperinflation and then destruction a little later, rather than immediate destruction.

>> No.20533421

>>20533187
That's exactly what it is.

>> No.20533425

>>20533361
It's a win-win for the banks. They don't lend out any actual money!!
It's a big circle jerk of 'I owe yous'

>> No.20533439

>>20533283

See >>20533417

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>>20533370
look guys i get you want the collapse to happen and gold and silver to moon to 100x. its not happening
worst case scenario the US will just create a new currency out of thin air. they've done it multiple times.
but a 1980's scenario is far more likely, in either case they'll be no collapse...

>> No.20533478

>>20533417
>They will choose hyperinflation and then destruction a little later, rather than immediate destruction.
it certainly looks like you're right, but there is some middle ground. Even if reducing the damage were impossible they could always opt for the flash crash and quick reset.

I don't know which way the Dems will go once elected, but I'd guess you're right. Obama's plan. Kick the can down the road and hope it buys enough time for a miracle.

it's also possible they'll run the printer and fail in just a few months anyways.

>> No.20533488

>>20533453

"Creating a currency out of thin air" would be pointless. Nobody would ascribe any value to it. The U. S. only achieved pre-eminence for its currency by a unique historical circumstance. It lied that it was backed by gold, and then, once it had caused everybody to depend on it, took the gold-backing away. You can't repeat that trick a second time. When the dollar goes, we go back to gold, and that is the end of it.

>> No.20533499

>>20533107
>>20533306
>>20533361
If they rose interest rates to 15% (another Volcker shock), it would cause the national debt to balloon out of control faster than a schizo meth head's credit rating. At the current rate, interest on the national debt is already expected to make up half of all federal spending by 2024.

Not to mention it would crater the markets, which would slaughter every pension fund and retirement account in the country. They don't have the balls to do what it takes for another Volcker shock.

>> No.20533525

>>20533499
both results are likely inevitable now regardless of what they do.

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>>20533342
>I expect 10 years at the latest with modern regulations
Imagine when little Greta gets plastered all over the internet sobbing in front of an open pit mine, begging for all mining to be stopped. Also, imagine what that will do to the price of above-ground precious metals.
I hate to say it Pan Man, but I think your job is going become an even bigger headache in the near future. I'm sure you'll figure something out, but I also hope you're saving some of those yellow flakes for yourself.

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>>20533421
Yeah had a feeling

>> No.20533620

>>20533568
in the US at least I think the old laws still apply. Mines don't like eminent domaining people's houses and knocking them down but legally they're allowed to. It's bad PR but can be good business.

>> No.20533636

>>20533568
nah he'll just move to alaska when the US releases all that federal land lol

>> No.20533649

>>20533014
Good luck with an soon one party activist west

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20533652

>>20533453
Can it at least look cool?
What would the exchange rate be from US Federal Reserve Note to New Jew Currency?
10,000:1???

>> No.20533667

>>20533636
That's.... probably not going to happen anytime soon.
>t. Alaskan

>> No.20533670

>>20533574
Nice...

>> No.20533672

>>20533453
For every dollar printed, the value of that dollar decreases.
PMs value is set by the amount of PMs that are mined out of the ground.
Silver is going straight to the moon, bucko. You better believe it.

>> No.20533695

>>20533652
>implying if the reset doesn't come with a cleansing of certain elements of society the new money wouldn't be adorned with KANGZ and their queens twerking all over famous landmarks

>> No.20533720

>>20533672
>For every dollar printed, the value of that dollar decreases.
not if trade increases faster than dollars are printed because both businesses and populations grow.

but generally, yes. We try to devalue the dollar because inflation is a tax on the future.

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>>20533568
yea.. i expect things to go bananas. I already have twenty different clients asking me to look for placer / hard rock properties for them to buy, not to mention all my own ground I need to finish working on. Tack on that drilling I have setup this September / October I am going to be worked to death. Also Greta can get stuffed, we all know she was placer mining in 1900.

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>>20531914
I started out at 160 last summer as well anon.

I've increased my position since then

>> No.20533783

>>20533765
If you order from apmex you can see your piechart here https://www.apmex.com/account/portfolio

>> No.20533789

>>20533720
Those dollars don't disappear if they are moved to another country, anon. They still exist, therefore affect the value of that dollar.

>> No.20533835

>>20533525

You are right. The inextricable dichotomy for the people in power is,

1) Catastrophic collapse, or
2) Hyperinflation, and then an even worse catastrophic collapse.

But as hyperinflation delays fate a little longer, they will choose the hyperinflationary collapse. i.e., The worse choice of the two for everybody other than themselves.

>> No.20533841

>>20533789
THE GREATEST TRANSFER OF WEALTH IN HISTORY INVOLVES:
>FOREIGNERS WHO STOCKPILE THE DOLLAR TO ESCAPE THEIR SHITTY CURRENCY, BUT SOON ALL THEIR STOCK WILL BE WORTHLESS

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>>20530431
based vreneli, the nicest fractional gold coin there is.

>> No.20533934

>>20533841
Plans for the one world currency, dude. It's a long term agenda to equalize the dollar values of all currencies. Guess what that's gonna do to the dollars of high values.
Pfffffffffffffffft dead.
However PMs will always maintain their value, because you can only haul out so much PMs from the ground, as opposed to 'printing' it out on a fucking computer database.

>> No.20533957

>>20533835
THE RICH ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES LIKE A CORNERED DOGS. THEY ARE NOT STUPID. THEY ARE SIMPLY PUSHING THE SCHEME AS FAR BACK AS THEY CAN BC THATS ALL THEY CAN DO. THIS IS THE END. THEY KNOW IT. AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT

>> No.20533971

>>20533835
bubbles pop, what goes up must come down, etc.

after that we only have the American work ethic, intelligence, and natural resources to determine what our worth is. Which is frightening, but for all our faults most of the world is much worse.

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20533984

Why are Jews so hard of hearing?
We the People

>> No.20533999

>>20533934
YES BUT THESE FOREIGNERS DON'T EVEN STOCKPILE REAL ASSETS. THEIR SAFE ASSET OF CHOOSING IS USD, WHICH IS not SAFE. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HOLD ON TO THEIR USD AS A LIFELINE WILL BE STRANDED WITHOUT STABLE-FIAT OR REAL ASSETS.

>truly the greatest transfer in wealth

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20534012

>>20533957
Haha gold and silver coins go *clink* *clink*

>> No.20534014

>>20533728
You don't have to dig the mine shafts as wide if you send kids down to work in them. Absolutely genius!

>> No.20534040

>>20533999
Hah, brilliant, and checked. What a bunch of suckers.
So true.

>> No.20534081

>>20534014
lmao

>> No.20534119

SilverGoldBull just confirmed my order for that 10oz spot price bar even though it said it was sold out. fuck yeah bros.

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20534175

>>20533306
>>20533361
Volcker made his move in 79 if I recall correctly. But the REASON he was even able to do that in the first place, and intentionally kickstart a recession, is because the US economy and banking sector could handle it back then. Oh yeah, they hated it. Volcker had mud slinged at him for years, only later being revered as a brass-balled badass.

However the debt situation is so bad now that this time around, a Volcker-style rate hike would fucking KILL the system. It would be such a historic collapse that the USA's status as a world superpower would be in jeopardy. War would be a real possibility (even more so than it is today).

That's why, politically, we might not be able to go down that route. I agree that we need to take the hard chemotherapy now lest we suffer the terminal disease later. And I'm worried we have no politically palatable solution but to head for the terminal disease of inflation.

I've circled on this chart how overleveraged the US was in 1979 when Volcker made his move, versus today

>> No.20534256

>>20534175
And get ready for that debt-to-GDP to fucking skyrocket over the next few months as deficits blow up (trillions more in stimulus) while GDP tanks

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20534274

>placed order (pic related) last week
>everything was in-stock except the 5oz bars which were "preorder," expected arrival 7/31
>thought they would ship the order piecemeal (stupid, I know)
>now must wait until early August to receive my ~270ozt

I am getting pretty impatient, bros.

>> No.20534299

>>20534175
I would say even a 2% interest rate in any western country would destroy our banking system. This is the end game of fractional reserve lending

>> No.20534300

>>20534175
>War would be a real possibility
Why would war be a possibility? Diverting resources from the private sector to blow shit up elsewhere would make American lives even worse.

>> No.20534360

>>20534175
I fully agree with your assessment, it's just my sentiment that I no longer want on this ride of collecting debt handcuff after debt handcuff just to appear to be surviving.

>> No.20534382

>>20533453
The only reason why FIAT gets tried over and over again is because people forget, over and over again.

Takes at least a generation after one generation gets completely burnt by FIAT for the scam to have enough idiots who buy into it to work.

>> No.20534417

>>20534274
Just call them up, I'm sure they'll let you split your order into shipments since you spent so much.

>> No.20534418

>>20534300
Because sudden vacuums in geopolitical power always get filled by others, and currency wars turn into hot wars.

>> No.20534443

Say you're trying to sell silver to a potential buyer/larger local metal dealer, what kind of buyback price can you typically get on coins with premiums? (such as silver Krugerrands in my case).
I ask because I may need to sell some to cover bills.

>> No.20534508

>>20534443
Just head down to your local MLK Jr. Blvd. and clink the coins around in your hands. I'm sure one of the people that dwell there will offer you a fair price.

>> No.20534545

>>20534417
Yeah, imma try that tomorrow. Good thinkin'

>> No.20534566

>>20534300

because the u.s. military plays a large role in propping up the dollar, and if the dollar collapses, the military will be called upon in an attempt to save it. maybe they'd move against venezuela, in the name of democracy of course, and nationalize their assets in an attempt to backstop the dollar.

>> No.20534597

>FOMOd into 3kg of more silver in the last few days

I'm either retarded or a genius at this point

>> No.20534608

>>20534545
It works even better at night!

>> No.20534618

>>20533783

You can add non-apmex purchases there as well.

>> No.20534666

Just bought my first silver. 25 Britannias on the way.

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>>20534566
Except that the petrodollar is dead now, we're not even keeping carriers on station in the gulf more than half the year, and as soon as the Russians and Saudis get done cutting their noses off to spite their faces with their oil dumping, fracking comes back online and we go back to being an exporter. We're moving away from being world police and global shipping guarantors, being non-integrated into the global economy is probably one of the USA's biggest strengths moving into a global currency collapse, right behind its ridiculous food output.

We're just going to let it burn, because the rest of the world gets it so much worse.

>> No.20534722

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWlu2nSLhxQ

TAKE THE FUCKING RAY DALIO PILL GOD DAMNIT

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20534742

Anyone know how to do ACH/eCheck with CapitalOne?

>> No.20534774

>>20534742
Can you not just pull up a banking app (or find your checkbook) and read off the routing# and account# you see?

>> No.20534879

>>20534774
I can't find where on the silver or bank site to enter the transaction

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20534893

>>20530394
Get FUCKED J.P. Morgan!

>> No.20535027

Think it's time to sell of ONTX or keep riding the train?

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20535163

>>20534774
Scottsdale has an input form. Painless.

>> No.20535212

>>20530720
Holy shit my fiances titty bats made the cut! I'm honored fren

>> No.20535292

>>20535212
Thats a man.

>> No.20535311

SILVER BREAKING THE FUCK OUT
SILVER MINERS MOONING

Shout-out to all the believers buying in the bear market

Shout-out to all the faggot fudders who're lurking. Fuck you idiot lel.

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>>20535311

>> No.20535411

>>20535377

Did silver really drop from $19.90 to $19.88? My goodness. Exit all positions immediately. We were wrong about silver. This is 2012 all over again.

>> No.20535431

>>20535411
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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20535436

>futures markets open again
>no pullback, just continues going higher
bros...?

>> No.20535490

>>20535411
>his is 2012 all over again.
qrd?

>> No.20535534
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20535534

>Were actually all going to make it

Come here bro’s I need a hug

>> No.20535544

>>20529629
that McLeod guy discussing the markets, comex and PMs, said all crypto will go to zero right with fiat.
idk but i do know i have zero faith in any crypto as it is currently. to me it would me sheer madness to put any assets into crypto

>> No.20535555

>>20535377
>-0.15%
I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED

>> No.20535585

>>20533984
Has nobody who's had their home foreclosed on every taken their case to the Supreme Court on the grounds that their debt is Unconstitutional based on this clause?

>> No.20535614

Guys what are the best miners to get into

>> No.20535640

>>20535544

Macleod's argument is that, once we get back to a gold standard, crypto becomes largely irrelevant; because half its perceived value is as an inflation-hedge and a protection against a currency crisis. To a great extent, this is true. Crypto does, however, offer the advantage of privacy, so I do hold a small position in select cryptocurrencies which I believe in, like XMR, ETH, and BCH. But I fully accept that they may go to zero, whereas gold can only go up.

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20535651

> silber is mooning guys
> 1 post by this id
> post chart showing it is not mooning in anyway
> lol u mad fgt

>> No.20535650

>>20535614
I was thinking impact silver but I’m new to miners so any experienced anons appreciated

>> No.20535674

>>20529505
>>20529629
I don't understand, it went from $8.50 down to $7.50, still way fucking up. What are people complaining about? If you're gonna go in on shitcoins for pure speculation, at least wait until the next major run up in crypto over the next few years or so. I threw some play spec money at it, like 1k back when it was $1.60 expecting to lose it all

Not defending it, just saiyan

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>> No.20535710

>>20535614

For safety against risk, buy the GDX, GDXJ, SIL, SILJ ETFs. You will do extremely well with these, and can simply hold them without any worry about buying or selling or research.

For greater gains, the best small-caps (into which you should put only 1% of your wealth) are Euro Sun Mining, Wallbridge Mining, and McEwen Mining. For extreme speculation, buy Spanish Mountain Gold, Newrange Gold, and Goldquest Mining. With respect to these ones, as I have said in another thread,

SPA has only just come to people's attention; it has ten million ounces of gold in the ground, and just got an investment from Eric Sprott, after Don Durrett wrote an article about it on SeekingAlpha. People speculate that it may become the next FVL and go 40x.

Newrange Gold is about to publish drilling results which might send the stock soaring immediately.

Goldquest Mining will soar the moment it gets a permit from the Dominican Republic; which is likely to happen, because tourism is down, and mining is now one of their only sources of income. They have also just recently elected a business-minded president.

>> No.20535715

>>20535651
Since 2011, silver has broken above current prices only twice and subsequently reached

>$21
And
>$50

If you understood the silver market you'd know how quickly it can move when certain resistances are broken.

>> No.20535718

>>20533984
no state. you morons the states aren't allowed to print their own fiat currency. they'd have to use those silly goldbacks like utah has.
they are perfectly allowed to use the US govts fiat though

>> No.20535728

>>20530972
>could only be done by admitting the comex has completely failed as a delivery mechanism
but it has failed, or is failing. just a matter of people going lose faith in it or not.
to me it just seems like one big money laundering scheme

>> No.20535732

>>20535718
And treasury-issued coins.

>> No.20535745

>>20535718
Butt fuck the (((US Government))) fiat. Fiat is a confidence game and I've lost all confidence in this rigged system.
Go eat a peepee

>> No.20535758

>>20535534
im a stacklet

>> No.20535780

>>20535745
Based, short everything, buy gold and silver

>> No.20535785

>>20535710
What are your favorite miners with weekly options?

>> No.20535788

>>20535650

A lot of people on https://ceo.ca/ipt are selling Impact Silver right now and getting into other stocks. They say that it has run too far too fast and has some problems. At the moment, I think that Discovery Metals offers better value as leverage to the price of silver. Eric Sprott owns 20% of its shares, and it has some of the best silver deposits in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD87y0SljK8

>> No.20535815

>>20535728
It'll be very interesting to see what happens in September. Either they lose their entire stack they've spent a decade accumulating or they let the price explode so high that retail investors can't afford to buy their stack. Either way we win, they are backed into a corner and right now nothing can really save them.

>> No.20535827

>>20535785

I follow Don Durrett's advice simply to buy and hold quality miners and then keep them for the duration of the bull market, so I can't say.

>> No.20535880

https://www.jmbullion.com/90-silver-coins-1-fv-dimes-and-or-quarters/

is this a good deal

>> No.20535901

>>20535827
>>20535827
I meant for covered calls for a position that would be held

>> No.20535914
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20535914

>>20535880

Terrible actually.

>> No.20535919
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20535919

>>20535555
Checked and keked

>>20535534

>> No.20535920
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20535920

>>20531716
this is my fear
after listening to one of his recent YT discussion anon linked for us in previous thread, i was convinced i should empty one of my 401ks and put it all in stacking more physical PMs.
now I'm thinking, well shit, it might be all bought up or to the moon before i can get a settlement.

>> No.20535962

Well, the population is at 7,000,000,000.
And silver and gold have been consumed through material goods
Meaning there are fewer ounces available in an investment grade form
So, all those holding gold and silver will see huge purchasing power as both these factors will contribute to the re-adoption of a bimetallic standard.

>> No.20535982

>>20535901

I know nothing about options, so cannot say.

>> No.20535983

>>20535914
so no jm is not a good place for junk?

>> No.20535987
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20535987

Been pushing Aurcana lately, specifically to buy today, hope some of you guys listened. Looks like we have a breakout out of the flag, lots of upside to come. Absolute minimum 11% run from here.

>> No.20535989

>>20529638
Market crash forces paper sell off (it'll come back quick, physical shortage ain't going anywhere and COMEX and JPM will just get fucked again like they did last time the spread got too big)
Alternatively, somehow there's just a miracle economic recovery that actually hits the real economy and not just the stock market

>> No.20535991

>>20535694
saved

>> No.20536002

Who has the best deal on a roll of merc dimes where the dimes are not completely stripped and smoothed out missing some of its weight in silver? Some places really try to pass near blank merc dimes as good quality or circulated kek for well over a hundred bucks

>> No.20536011

>>20535983

sometimes they have great sales, but right now they are not looking good for junk

>> No.20536016
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20536016

>>20533971
>we only have the American work ethic, intelligence, and natural resources to determine what our worth is
thats all we need its all we ever needed.
the sooner people learn that the better.
those are the try fundamental under everything. and it is what will save us and allow us to rule our own destiny

>> No.20536028

>>20535983
I'd go with silvergoldbull, haven't had an issue with them and the lowest premium, assuming you're US

>> No.20536044

>>20535987

A lot of pessimism on https://ceo.ca/aun concerning the stock, but I remember that people were pessimistic about Viszla Resources, Defiance Silver, and many other stocks before they began moving also. Somebody comments yesterday

"The momentum here was lower into the PP but now reversing higher. Resistance in the 60's will be taken out by $20 silver and $1 will be taken out when we go into the 20's. Exploration getting going should help with some nice results from the vein later."

And today

"The silver price pulling this stock higher kicking and screaming."

>> No.20536046

>>20534119
very nice anon. sounds like they're expecting prices to jump and they're pulling back their sales
>>20534443
just look online at the prices they'll buy them and remember that shipping and insurance will eat your profits

>> No.20536050

who the fuck took the find bullion prices out of the op?

>> No.20536054

>>20535710
Wow thanks for the write up anon
I’ve been stacking for a while and have built up a considerable position relative to my net worth, so I believe I can afford to be risky with my miner picks

Will check them out, thanks

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20536061

>>20536002

hard to say, but at hero bullion (new company) i got just 10 face in 90% and they sent me a lot of nice looking mercs. pic related

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20536068

>>20534597
yes, yes you are anon.

>> No.20536070

>>20529364
2020 Libertads when? I really hope we get them before silver contracts start defaulting.

>> No.20536071

>>20536028
>>20536011
thanks frens

>> No.20536082

>>20534714
>We're just going to let it burn, because the rest of the world gets it so much worse.
that's it right there

everyone wants independence from the US economy but at the end of the day when we fall they fall harder.

>> No.20536092

>>20536054

Thank you, you are welcome, and I hope that, if you buy them, they do well.

>> No.20536094

>>20535788
Thanks for the link and tips, another forum I’m gonna have to start browsing though kek

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20536105

>>20529364
CUTE. Silver to $40.

>> No.20536164

>>20535640
>Macleod's argument is that, once we get back to a gold standard, crypto becomes largely irrelevant; because half its perceived value is as an inflation-hedge and a protection against a currency crisis.
i didn't hear that to be his argument at all. but then, I'm not real savvy on all that stuff .
i took his message to say, "crypto is just a worse form of clown world fiat" and is worthless already

>> No.20536174

>>20536092
Honestly my money set aside for miners is nothing to me and I’m fine with losing 100% of. Thinking of goldquest and SPA with a risky silver miner as well

>> No.20536194

>>20536164

He talks about crypto towards the end of this interview; don't know the exact timestamp. So far as I remember, that was his opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9xeSOdr9Uc

>> No.20536233

>>20536174

Discovery Metals, which I mentioned in this post, >>20535788 definitely looks most promising for silver. There are a lot of good silver small-caps (Callinex Mines, Great Panther, Aurcana, Alexco, Dolly Varden, etc.,), but, if I had to choose one, I think that Discovery Metals would be it.

>> No.20536239

>>20536070
Most likely never. Mexico knows better.

>> No.20536313
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20536313

I loved it when PANMAN said that the cartel were buying up libertads

>> No.20536318

>>20536233
What percentage of your total PM investment is in miners? Or do you see the two figures as separate?

>> No.20536377

>>20536313
I am not sure how credible it was but there are some reports from mexico saying Cartel guys are buying what ever PMs they can get their hands on. I havent heard what the gangs are doing around here when it comes to gold but I expect them to be doing the same soon too.

>> No.20536396

>>20536318

The vast majority. I will eventually convert the profits to bullion stored in overseas vaults, because I believe David Brady is probably right that, in the long-term, the mines will get nationalized. But, in the short term, the mines will outperform bullion tenfold, so that is where I want to be. It is infinitely more dangerous to hold miners than bullion; but, if, like me, you are absolutely convinced that we are going to have a PM bull market, the risk does not exist, only the reward.

>> No.20536494

>>20536377
>>20536313
its a known way for them to launder their money. financial transactions in mexico are not watched the same way they are here in the states. no one ask questions in mexico if a guy sells a kilo of silver.

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20536497

>>20536016
>>20533971

Based and der Tage pilled

>> No.20536541

>>20535377
And just like that, resistance became support.

>> No.20536553

>>20536494
>selling a kilo of silver
That's fucking cool

>> No.20536570
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20536570

>>20536377
Any idea why they're up to those silver buying shenanigans? Do they browse /pmg/?

>> No.20536649

>>20536570
my guess is there trying to hide major cash flow from some project. Either that or their planning on setting up their own currency, who knows though.

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20536689

>>20536570
If you're a businessman whose business is primarily drugs, guns, and bodies, then it behooves you to keep things off detailed digital ledgers, even in Mexico, but most certainly in Canada. So you use something historically valuable, rare, valued internationally, with no book presence after it leaves a dealer (and if you can get it refined directly, not even that). Everyone talks about block chain like its a privacy silver bullet, but the fact is that cash/PM transactions will always be preferred by criminals smart enough to know the risks. This makes the criminal element legit early adopters.

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20536754

>>20535534
Lick* UwU

>> No.20536842

>>20536044
Thanks, and if anyone wants more info:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9BVyHv1o8agJ:https://seekingalpha.com/article/4347497-aurcana-corp-silver-mine-development-story+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Seems pretty likely they'll get financed and begin producing very soon at these silver prices. Even if we pull back, there's nothing that can stop silver prices from going over 20.

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20536876

>>20536689
Pump my bags Sinaloa-chan!

>> No.20536895

>>20536649
>>20536689
So, basically, the black market is the free market?

>> No.20536923

>>20536876
I want to fuck that mexican anime girl
what do

>> No.20536983

>>20536689
Roger that. Same for art for the big boys.

>> No.20536986

>>20536570
just like >>20536689 implied. illegal money is harder to trace the longer it is out of circulation. cartels operate on a long time line. putting silver away for 20 years and redeeming it later is no big deal for them and its an easy way to conceal the source.

>> No.20536991

Should I buy miners or is it too late? Should I wait for a pullback?

>> No.20537028

>>20536991
its only going up anon. buy what you prefer, just remember the stock market is subject to fiat

>> No.20537045

>>20536377
wtf i love mexican cartels now

>> No.20537074

>>20536986
pretty sure Pan Man is right and they're just laundering.

no reason to take risks on investments when all you do is essentially print your own money. They're probably washing dollars into silver and back to pesos to immediately make payroll, buy weapons, buy land, buy vehicles, buy drugs, etc.

there's a solid chance it's just laundry detergent for them. It does them no good in a vault somewhere.

>> No.20537075

>>20536991

Will repeat what I said in another thread:

*

David Brady is still maintaining that miners and metals, along with the market as a whole, may drop substantially within the next few weeks. He says that gold could drop to 1750, 1670, or even as low as 1400. But others believe that his technical analysis is meaningless, because a short squeeze is taking place, and the COMEX ponzi-scheme is about to collapse. See Alisdair McCleod, after Eric Sprott just demanded 8.8% of the world's annual silver supply. James Turk is now predicting imminent $30 silver. Nobody should be all-in on precious metals yet, but nobody should be without a core position either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliHE6QgljY

Keep 33-66% of your money in metals and miners, and the rest ready to buy into a crash. If the Fed implements YCC before then, or if there is a crisis on the COMEX, expect there to be no crash; it is at that point that one goes all-in.

*

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20537098

>>20534714
>fracking comes back online and we go back to being an exporter.
Holy fuck, imagine believing this shit.

>> No.20537118

>>20537098
6 months ago we were a net exporter of crude oil

>> No.20537148

>>20537098
what are you talking about? literally the only reason we stopped fracking is because russia and saudi arabia got together to try and bankrupt our oil companies. little did they know we go BURRRR

>> No.20537189

>>20537074
thats exactly what im saying, but you dont sell $20k worth of silver in one day. you space it out over time in smaller increments. maybe $1k a week. thats how laundering works.

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20537205

where do you guys buy your mining stocks?

>> No.20537211

>>20536061
>hero bullion (new company)
scam

>> No.20537219

>>20536991
If you buy now, you're FOMOing and chasing, which is always the wrong place to be. That said if you don't buy you're risking just getting more and more priced out and even future pullbacks may be ahead of current prices.

Personally I see a future pullback happening in PM's as we've formed a perfect cup formation and have gone parabolic. Straight up, straight down, as they say, which would be perfect to complete the handle of the formation. I think it's happening, but it's in no way guaranteed. A decent hedge would be to buy a bit on undervalued stocks like Metalla and Aurcana, Maybe osisko, to name some, and have money ready for any pullbacks. But again, this isn't guaranteed. You should've listened anon... where were you the last 3 months. We've had 50% gains average lol.

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20537248

>>20536497
Freedom boners

>> No.20537260

>>20537189
they've got hundreds of thousands of distribution points.

you get a hundred thousand guys selling $1k per week and you're selling a hundred million a week.

>> No.20537263
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20537263

>fear of fear of missing out preventing you from making it at all

>> No.20537278

>>20537205

Some stocks will be available on your country's stock exchange. People in the U. K. can buy Hummingbird Resources, Hochschild Mining, Adriatic Metals, etc., on the LSE. People in the U. S. can buy Hecla Mining, McEwen Mining, Endeavour Silver, etc., on the NYSE. Both have the GDX and GDXJ. To buy international stocks, use a broker like International Brokers, or buy a foreign listing if it is available to you. If you buy a foreign listing, however, be aware that it will be highly illiquid, and that you ought to do a currency conversion of the price on the original stock exchange, and make a bid for that price only. Don't overpay for the asking price unless absolutely necessary.

>> No.20537342

>>20537260
yes. thats what i said. but if they send individuals to sell thousands a day it raises suspicion. they rotate their straw sellers and give them small amounts. they may collect from each halcone maybe once a week like a rotating schedule.

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20537403

>>20537118
>>20537148
It is far cheaper to produce oil in Russia and Saudi Arabia than it is in the United States. US companies only survive because of the massive debt they take on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZR-72jzpp0

>> No.20537423

>>20537278
Appreciate the answer but I meant like what site you guys use to buy stocks, for example Fidelity.

>> No.20537436

>>20537342
Does Mexico even track metals sales? If the cops catch wind of it they're probably just going to want a cut. And if they get greedy the cartel will kill them.

I think mexico's all in on cartels, the laundering is probably just a formality to keep the US from demanding intervention. The cartels run that country now. They own it.

>> No.20537478

>>20537211
>hero bullion (new company)
>scam
give some proof or else you a kike who loves nigger kike

>> No.20537485

>>20537403
>It is far cheaper to produce oil in Russia and Saudi Arabia than it is in the United States
that doesn't mean you sell it cheaper
>US companies only survive because of the massive debt they take on.
we don't give loans to businesses that constantly lose money. They survive because they sell crude in the US cheaper than Russia or the Saudis would

>> No.20537493

>>20537436
they do but not to the same degree we do here in the states. they have system similar to FINCEN and if people routinely make suspicious transactions they can track it. but they dont have the manpower to focus on small scale transactions. thats why the cartel hires halcons and college kids to launder it for them in various ways. car washes, laundromats, jewelry are all easy ways to launder money.

>> No.20537544

>>20537436
90% of the demand is western companies. If hyperinflation scenario happens and they can't afford drugs anymore, what happens to the cartel? What happens to mexicans?

>> No.20537578

>>20537493
>laundromats are easy ways to launder money.

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20537601

>>20537578
>>20537493

>> No.20537607

>>20537544
addiction is a hell of a thing. People will beg borrow and steal. Then the cartels own the US as well.

I'd say gun owners would step in and save us but I rarely meet a gun owner that doesn't use mexican drugs.

>> No.20537634

>>20537578
>>20537601
cash only business with no overhead. you can make your own numbers. same with car washes, cash only and little book keeping

>> No.20537676

>>20537436
Well, we can jut invade Mexico and take all their silver mines lel

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20537693

>>20537211

are you retarded?

>> No.20537706

>>20532942
Wholesome

>> No.20537728

>>20537693
it sucks that i need to pay around 100 dollars to place an order

>> No.20537793

>>20537676
foreign investors already own their silver mines just like they own ours

we have silver mines just as rich but we can't work them because our labor costs 10X more and legal compliance is extraordinarily expensive here.

the only valuable business they have is selling us drugs, and nobody here wants that job. Next most valuable is harvesting our vegetables, again nobody wants it. After that building us hotels and condos and then bringing us coco locos on the beach. They're welcome to it.

be like invading the busboy's house to steal back the $1.75 you tipped him earlier.

>> No.20537794

>>20537728

100 dollars is the normal amount for free shipping at most pm sellers. i was testing them out since i just heard of them. ordered july 4th, package was shipped on july 7th, received it on july 10th.

if 100 is too much, go to a coin shop instead

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20537812

>>20537403
Russian and Saudi oil is PRODUCED cheaper, but once you factor in the costs to transport it (and all the security and uncertainty costs associated with anything in the mideast) those savings start to vanish. Saudi and Russian oil is also heavy, sour, tar; it is a pain to refine and a pain to move via pipeline compared to the light, sweet crude you get via fracking shale. And because US refiners prefer shale oil as a feed stock so much, they retooled their facilities to run on it, locking them in to shale as a feed stream.

Need I also remind you that the Russian and Saudi governments depend on their petro-exports to stay alive? Their companies are essentially part of the state at this point for that reason. A disruption to shale causes a hit to the economy of the Dakotas and the Canadian shale plays while the wells are shuttered. This prolonged price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia causes massive damage to both of those countries.

But you already knew all that, and you're just pretending not to know anything about energy right?

>> No.20537834

>>20537794
bet

>> No.20537839

>>20537812
4chan is full of literal russian shills

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20537855

>>20537793
Nah, fuck it. Invade and give NEETs gobernment issued latina gfs

>> No.20537861

>>20537839
sure thing share blue shill

>> No.20537864

whats the best deal on gold reichmarks? best i can find $440 for a gold 20 reichmark coin is that good?

>> No.20537868

>>20537834
frfr

>> No.20537890

>>20537693
photoshopped imaged
fake chinese made merc dimes
you are the site owner shilling his bullion site

I would buy a roll of mercs but I only see mixed mercs and roosevelt dimes and I dont want a 99% roll of rosies

>> No.20537926

>>20537890
into the filter u go

>> No.20537927

>>20537855
I'll tell you a secret based on experience-

it's absurdly cheap to fly to Cabo or Cancun or Cozumel, and for $50 you can easily get your dick wet down there with some 18 year old hot thing in a short dress.

you just have to stay in one of the all-inclusive resorts where the better hookers hang out. A night in those resorts is generally cheaper than a night at the Airport Hilton so it's not a big deal. A couple thousand dollar vacation, all the food and drinks you can consume, and cheap latinas in your bed each night if that's your thing.

if you make more than $75k per year you can usually stay for free in exchange for sitting through a time share sales presentation.

>> No.20537960

ill bake

>> No.20538012

>>20537890

i have no idea who the owner of the place is. i just tested them out after a youtuber ordered from them and showed his order. they had good prices

>> No.20538017

>>20537927
>Giving a hooker $50
I'll give her a mercury dime

>> No.20538037

>>20538017
I tried that once, she looked very confused

>> No.20538043

>>20538028
New
>>20538028
>>20538028

>> No.20538050

>>20537926
>filtering anons
heh good luck

>> No.20538075

>>20538050
I like it when they filter you at the end of the thread

like 'great job, moron. you missed almost 2 whole posts'

>> No.20538120

>>20538075
>>20538050
we know its you fuck off

>> No.20538168

>>20533283
>vaccine for the Wu Flu
ID opinions completely discarded. You can't be fucking serious. Back to /smg/ /pol/ or wherever the fuck you came from.

>> No.20538195

>>20538120
see, you didn't filter anyone

>> No.20538321

>>20536497
with the demographic change the US is experiencing, you'll become a third world shithole.
you're taking in more immigrants than any other country.