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because it is not possible

>” How come no one actually tries to refute their claims?”

Nobody here holds chainlink
So what’s the point
In fact this site is warning about the chainlink scam since ico times

What's a claim you want refuted?

>>20514226
fucking Japanese empire taking down the West with them

>>20514245
>Their service is easily replicable
>Businesses are better off developing in-house solutions
>There is little user adoption of link's service
>They pay companies to basically pretend to use their service
>There will be little incentive for anyone involved in the oracle network to actually hold LINK beyond a certain point, incentivizing selloffs
>They pump and dump with fake, overhyped news
the list really goes on

>>20514371
Sloppy Simone

>>20514371
I want Link to crash so hard lives are ruined

>>20514371
>Their service is easily replicable
with centralised oracles?
>Businesses are better off developing in-house solutions
that would cost them more time and money
>There is little user adoption of link's service
every literally who in crypto space is using it
>They pay companies to basically pretend to use their service
proof?
>There will be little incentive for anyone involved in the oracle network to actually hold LINK beyond a certain point, incentivizing selloffs
what is steaking?
>They pump and dump with fake, overhyped news
name one fake

>>20514222
>he posted a onions man
it's all been refuted now boys
lets go

The only link fud I've ever found unbeaten is that it kicks the can of centralised points of failure down the line. Often the nodes are using the same api and when they start talking about IoT and logistics it really gets to a point where there's no way of having multiple feeds.

>>20514514
delete this

can someone tell me why this was emailed to me?

>>20514371
You know what, I'm taking the bait on the off chance that you are retarded.

>>Their service is easily replicable
So is bitcoin. Or any other open source software out there, including linux.
>>Businesses are better off developing in-house solutions
No, businesses are moving towards open source solutions, primarily because it'll drastically keep costs down (development, maintenance etc).
>>There is little user adoption of link's service
Plenty of projects are incorporating the tech into their stacks. Also early days.
>>They pay companies to basically pretend to use their service
It was clear from day one that funds will be used to incentivise use eg. oracle nodes. Don't remember any specific end user type service getting funds.
>>There will be little incentive for anyone involved in the oracle network to actually hold LINK beyond a certain point, incentivizing selloffs
The more you have the more jobs you can take. It'll incentivise growing an oracle business.
>>They pump and dump with fake, overhyped news
No they don't
>the list really goes on
Not worth reading.

Bro LINK will be more than $80.000 in 2026. 42 told us and he is legit cause he got a quantic message from the future. They still use Windows 10 in 2026 bro. He got a pic of a screen that has glare so it’s legit. He could never had photoshopped it and then taken a pic of the screen bro. He’s like the reincarnation of Tesla, he feels like these electric horns coming out of his forehead and shit.

>>20514542
>>20514458
>dont read the report
>attack imaginary talking points

>what is a strawman argument

>>20514514
it does.
the only retort to this is enterprise/solutions architects should be designing redundant systems, including their apis.
also, billions rely on Bloomberg terminals now which rely on centralised apis, so, meh
thats when it falls back to how the fuck else do you want to get data on chain, dont wanna trust a centralised party

>>20514458
if you didn't know yet. you need to do KYC to run a chainlink oracle. also, RLC does this better.

>>20514202
Most of it is fud from /biz/ from these past years.

One of the funniest things in the report is them claiming Chainlink promised its own blockchain.

>>20514540
Are you on Nexo’s mailing list?

>>20514202
>argue against a strawman

>>20514604
I'm not attacking anything you fucking retard. I answered his points in the post I responded to. Tell me, what's it like being retarded?

>>20514683
rlc does not have a single paying customer for their oracle service, fact

>>20514799
rlc doesn't have a paying anything
they're kinda like ripple, but with a 12b smaller market cap

>>20514683
>you need to do KYC to run a chainlink oracle
lmao no

https://market.link/search/nodes
Scroll down, all the nodes without a little Link hexagon next to them are non-KYC.

>>20514202
dr;ns

>>20514202
Main net went live over a year ago.
If you don't understand the significance of the oracle network, you'll never make it.

>>20514202
I keep seeing this, but did the people who claim this actually read the report? There is literal copy and pasted pasta fud from /biz/ in that report. The moment I saw that I knew this was either a joke or a bad psy op. Don't tell me no-linkers actually believe it's a legit report that needs refuting?

>>20514799
Ehm you should read up on this link is not only one who dose price feeds https://blog.kaiko.com/the-kaiko-and-iexec-price-feed-secure-pricing-for-ethereum-smart-contracts-728396b2e6dd

>>20514929
No shit but who uses it? Noone. Kaiko is a node operator on Chainlink too. That's their business.

>>20514929
no one uses them, its over for you trannylover gilles

>>20514929
It's a ghost town.
https://goerli.etherscan.io/address/0x7Ca601977C9075bAe2F173bA248356280008AeaF

>>20514927
So if a piece of content is copy pasted it becomes meritless?

>>20515358
If you include it in a huge hitpiece that you pass off as "dedicated research", then yes, copy and pasted 4chan pasta created for shits and giggles indeed becomes meritless.

>>20514202
it’s not even factually correct lmao it says there is no mainnet. it was obviously written by some fat ESL retard

>>20514578
This but unironically

>>20514371
>the list really goes on
>Stops there
If this isn't trolling, you are a massive spastic if you think for 1 second there's any credibility to this whole sorry shit-show of a badly executed fud campaign. Nobody fell for it surely?

>>20514202
we did everyday for two years, this is low effort fud and only works on newfags

>>20515877
Checked. Praise kek

>>20515358
No, /biz/ memes are the gold standard lf wisdom, obviously.

>>20514371
This is the sad truth.

>>20516066
IOTA is the saddest fucking token in existence

>>20514458
Fake partnerships

>>20514430
Linkers never shut up and deserve it at this point

>>20516822
Where did Chainlink announce a EY partnership I want a source so I can dump it on stinky linkies heads

>>20514202
>chainlink is not running on testnet anymore
>chainlink is not a securrity
>the chainlink network isn't fading and on-chain activities aren't declining
>the chainlink team isn't very small anymore
>chainlink has a monopoly, competition isn't strong or increasing

It’s already been thoroughly refuted by multiple people. Check responses to them on Twitter.

>>20516822
so a dude working on a project is a partnership in your mind? or did sergey anounce one with ey on the basis on that?

>>20514202
They can't and if they could they wouldn't be screaming it's just fud and trying to point the finger to nexo.

>>20517090
POST THE POINTS SO WE CAN REFUTE THEM FAGGOT.
You won't, since there aren't any.

>>20517090
Refute the fact that Chainlink is running on mainnet and isn't a security

>>20517090
So Chainlink is still running on testnet, even though mainnet has been up and running for over a year now?

Chainlink is worthless

>>20517373
Vitalik drives a Toyota

>>20517373

>>20514799
Neither does chainstink.

>>20517069
The other ones

>>20514757
>Chainlink promised its own blockchain.

Did it?

>>20515358
>1 post by this ID

>>20517604
Christ almighty anon.
Read the white paper.

>>20515983
>only works on newfags
Lol, no it doesn't. I'm laughing hard at these shenanigans

>>20515877
This, but ironically

>>20516822
BSN? Proven fake too.
Oracle Blockchain integration? Will be proven fake too.

>>20517745
How was BSN proven fake?

>>20517373
Make that 2 billions. Fake market cap btw.

>>20517776
China isn't real.

>>20514578
>He’s like the reincarnation of Tesla, he feels like these electric horns coming out of his forehead and shit.
wh(O)a
https://twitter.com/ZachReports/status/1277632036002574337?s=20

>>20514430
>I want Link to crash so hard lives are ruined
Sounds familiar

>>20514202
It’s a bad faith effort. I forget the name, but the tactic is specifically where you submit so many false accusations that it takes too long or is impractical to spend the time to refute all of them in a timely manner. Basically, TL;DR.
Fuck of Simeon and Nexo guys. Enjoy prison. I’m also joining the class action lawsuit against you. Get fucked. $1000 EOY

>>20518280
Based

>>20515449
>>20517019
>>20517226
>no staking
>kyc nodes do all the jobs
>literally aggregating one thing
(((MAINNET)))

>>20516822
Post where Chainlink claimed to have a partnership with EY retard.

>>20517520
what?which?

>>20518751
>kyc nodes do all the jobs

Wrong, all the nodes without a Chainlink logo by their name are non-kyc: https://market.link/search/nodes

>literally aggregating one thing
Literally aggregating all these things: https://feeds.chain.link

>>20518935
>Wrong, all the nodes without a Chainlink logo by their name are non-kyc
Those nodes make up less than 1% of total activity. Guess its better than 0% so you got me.
>Literally aggregating all these things: https://feeds.chain.link
You have to be deliberately dense to not understand what I said.

Textbook link playbook of arguing semantics. Sure its definitely a mainnet that delivers a fraction of what's outlined in their fairytale whitepaper

>>20514514
if you only have one data source and it’s wrong, nothing in the world can help you. chainlink can only mitigate that problem when multiple data sources exist and even they can be victim to the same attack or common mode failure.
the only guarantee chainlink makes is that whatever data was in the offchain API makes it to the blockchain exactly as is. it’s unironically a json parser, it’s just that making a json parser for a blockchain with high value data is less trivial than it seems.

>>20519494
Why are you keep switching id’s?

>>20514514

And which is why most services will just opt to choose the party they trust and inject the data themselves because doing what Chainlink is doing isn't as hard because it doesn't require obtuse decentralization!!!

>>20518751
honestly if we're not really at mainnet yet, im even more bullish desu

>>20519494
>Chainlink's mainnet is currently handling many hundreds of millions of dollars
>"th-that's not mainnet"

Who's playing the semantics game here, sport?

I have yet to see a single major group of people say they're going to use Chainlink. That's enough for me to be bearish. That and the cost per request puts too much economic pressure on applications that are already struggling to be profitable at times.

The idea is cool. But I fail to see how it'd actually be viable out in the wild. And even if it was, there is (just like ETH) no reason for the price to keep increasing to some insane value.

>>20514514
Chainlink is a decentralized network of oracles, not a decentralized network of sources.

Stop trying to hold Chainlink responsible for everything ever.

>>20519695
So you are satisfied with LINK in this stage and the product delivered? The whitepaper I read said decentralized oracles and staking on a blockchain agnostic protocol.

Because it’s literally a list of low IQ biz created fud which has been refuted here countless times.

>>20519699
>I have yet to see a single major group of people say they're going to use Chainlink.
lmao
Good one, bro.

>>20519755
Chainlink isn't even finished yet, but it's already dominating Defi and garnering massive mainstream interest.
You're crying about being early.

>>20519806

>Price feeds

Uniswap does it for free and is pretty close to market value ala arbitrage.

>Custom requests

Literally stupidly expensive even right now (nearly a dollar per request last time I checked IIRC). And if you're getting an API request why not just get that API request signed by the producer like what RANDOM.org does and verify it that way rather than paying some trannies.

>Random numbers

Commit-reveal scheme is free and does random numbers at the same rate you'd ask ChainLink to produce one.

And this is all the use case I've seen. Keep malding.

>>20519806
I asked you a question, i’m not crying about a thing.

Chainlink is just a NEET cult, it has no business being this highly valued. Literally everyone knows this lmao

>>20517798
Kekd just a dream goy

>>20519908
>Uniswap does it for free
lmao, uniswap is restricted entirely to ETH you dumb fuck.
That's why Chainlink is so important: to move beyond that.

Maybe try actually listening to Sergey's opening words he repeats every time, because you STILL don't get what he's saying.

>>20519940
The fact that you're asking if I'm satisfied, implies that you're not satisfied.

Remember, just a few will make it with chainlink

There are thots and onions drinkers on twitter shilling link these past few months, they will not stay when the hard fud and dump kicks in, subhumans need to be shaken out before we can jump and price them all out

>>20519988

Wow crazy. You know that Uniswap works on all EVMs right when there liquidity pools? And the same principles would apply? You linklets are actually blind to how the EVM ecosystem works. Go make some dApps and then talk to me.

>>20514202
god it feels good being a 2018 link holder who never sold. Back then the fud was entertaining but now you can just feel the desperation. Mass nolinker suicides will start soon, probably on the next leg up, if they haven't already.

>>20520068
>You know that Uniswap works on all EVMs right when there liquidity pools?
Uniswap is entirely ETH based.
All of the assets on it are ETH tokens and ETH itself.
The whole point of Chainlink is to move beyond that.

I just told you this and you STILL don't have a clue what any of this is about.

>>20520132

>Uniswap is entirely ETH based

Have you heard of this thing called the EVM? It's pretty neat. It's used everywhere. Soon it'll be compatible with most languages since you can use eWASM. You understand that the main purpose of Chainlink is to feed information into blockchain systems that use the EVM to do transactions right anon? Or are you this retarded?

>>20514222
>check'd
This is actually so accurate it's both funny and sad. Also this Zeus shit is fake and gay, if you actually fall for this you are a living example of a brainlet.

>>20520187
Are you having brain damage right now?

Uniswap only works with ETH-based tokens.
The whole point of Chainlink is to move beyond that, like fiat and gold.

Third time I tried to tell you this.

>>20520187

Also note most modern blockchain systems that have smart contracts use the EVM. Hence why you're retarded. Uniswap would work with many other chains because Plasma exists.

Alright from this thread I have determined you guys are all beyond saving and just suck the cock of what bias you want to make you feel warm and fuzzy.

>>20520252
>>20520187
>>20520068
This just has to be satire.

>>20519699
please show me the partnership lists of other cryptos so I can compare. pic related is out of date btw

>>20517373
This is like that guy who sold his 1700 btc

>>20521396
Vitalik literature drive Toyota

>>20519699
>yet to see a single major group of people say they're going to use Chainlink
then you haven't done a five second google search.
>economic pressure on applications that are already struggling
You're thinking too small, your head is in crypto land only right now. Theres an entire banking/financial world outside of crypto waiting to be made more efficient.
>Viable out in the wild
if you don't think being able to inject off chain data into smart contracts without creating a central point of failure in the entire system would make not only smart contracts more "viable" but the entire space, then you may not really think any of the tech has a purpose at all (which is a fine stance). Convoluted trading of various monopoly monies serves no real general economic purpose.
>no reason for the price to keep increasing to some insane value.
I agree, theres no reason for a lot of naturally occurring instances of crowd behavior. Speculative bubbles occur for reasons though, albeit not "good" ones. You call the top when you can on an asset thats in a bubble. Do you want to make money? Chainlink is nowhere near an "insane value" yet.