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>> No.20430740

I choose you

>> No.20430748

Tesla - Does what is best

Car companies - Does what has worked

No competition between these two. Tesla is going to eat them all alive.

>> No.20430761

I'm going to buy 1k worth of ARCO as a first time investment. It's at it's lowest rn and that's because of covid but there's no way it's going to go out of business and it will eventually go up to normal again.

>> No.20430763

I bought a WMT call with a strike price of $140 and it's expiring Aug 21st, am I gonna make it? This is my second call ever and I used the money I made from my first call to buy it

>> No.20430768

how would you have lost all your money on netflix
it has only been going up
why would you even bother shorting this if that's what happened

>> No.20430795

>>20430748
lol'd hard. How many elongated molusks are lodged in your anus this instant?

>> No.20430800

Again

Tesla - direct to consumer. Eventually will build to demand. No stockpiling. No middle man

Car companies - Stockpile model, local retail stores model. Man in the middle taking 6%.

Until car companies have a logistic and direct sales model they can't compete. Not even talking vehicles or EV or anything.

Tesla has a massive efficiency advantage in that direct sales system alone

>> No.20430820

>>20430768
kek

>> No.20430823

>>20430795
I don't think the stock price is reasonable at the moment. Not even a holder except through ETF. I'm just glad Tesla is actually bringing about obvious efficiencies like cutting out dealer's 6% cut.

>> No.20430837
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20430837

First for UAVS!

>> No.20430842

Please fucking end me

>> No.20430847
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20430847

AMERICA!!!

How dumb would it be to but 100 shares of SLV and sell covered calls? Pretty dumb?

>> No.20430863

>>20430800
In the future Tesla will use gigantic fucking 3d printers and print every car to flawless technical precision down to the atomic level. In 24 hrs or less.

>> No.20430873

>>20430795
How hard did you get burned trying to bet against TSLA? You're always in these threads posting the same elongated name meme and talking trash, you seem upset.

>> No.20430888

>>20430837
UAVS is the only thing I’ve made money on this week. Holding until Monday.

>> No.20430889
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20430889

Do I need to actually own 100 shares of something to trade options or are you guys just selling naked calls way OTM and crossing your fingers?

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stupid fucking NCLH i hate this stock so fucking much goddamn

>> No.20430908
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>>20430842

>> No.20430919

>>20430837
First for MVIS. Almost tried to swing my stack yesterday. Thought better of it, held and now im up another 700 bones. Wheeeeee....

>> No.20430933

>>20430863
Tesla is selling direct right now. No haggling. No negotiations. Just a price and website order. No ad spends either.

>> No.20430943

>>20430902
Its an obvious long term hodl. If you think cruise lines are coming back tomorrow youre retarded. Give it a year, youll want to blow the CEO. Pause.

>> No.20430955

>>20430889

You can buy an option and then sell it later if its premium goes up. There's a difference between buying and selling, and "writing". Writing options is where you effectively produce the contract, and somebody else pays you the premium straight away. Naturally, you have an obligation to them or the bearer if the strike price is hit. You can write call options while holding 100 shares, or you can write put options with enough money to purchase 100 shares of the underlying at the strike. Where you get into trouble is writing options without having the shares or the capital necessary to fulfill your obligation as the contract writer.

>> No.20430967

reminder nasdaq and tech will outperform. These irregularities are minor and short before people wake up and jump back into the winners.

>> No.20430972

>>20430889
Writing naked calls without knowing exactly what you are doing is guaranteed disaster

>> No.20430988

>>20430908
Should I work at Amazon?

>> No.20431021

>>20430902
seriously?
Did you read the announcement after the bell that the CDC was forbidding cruising until september?

I wonder if that'll be pushed back again.

>> No.20431067

>>20430988
stories i have heard from employees indicates no, no you probably should not. Main complaint is they are stupid strict about break frequency and duration, long hours, don't seem to care much about employee retention and they prefer dissatisfied ones quit so they can bring in a new schlub to replace rather than addressing said complaints.

>> No.20431087

>>20430908
being an amazon security chad seems like it would be fun, making sure wagies stay in their cages

>> No.20431113

>>20431067
But can you make money pretty quick with them?

>> No.20431128

>>20431113
can you?

>> No.20431148

>>20431128
Idk someone told me it was 16 an hr for 3 12 hr days

>> No.20431172

>>20431021
that's reasonable and logical. cdc extends no sail order and line goes down. however this is clown market so I wasn't expecting anything reasonable or logical

>> No.20431180

>>20430988
No
>>20431067
>stupid strict about break frequency and duration
>don't seem to care much about employee retention
>they prefer dissatisfied ones quit so they can bring in a new schlub
rather than addressing said complaints.
Nailed it.
Amazon runs its warehouses such that employees are mere cogs in a machine.

>>20431087
>being an amazon security chad seems like it would be fun, making sure wagies stay in their cages
That does actually seem like a fun role.
They're on their phones all the fucking time.

>> No.20431212

>>20431087
>not saying, "wagies stay in their cagies"

ngmi

>> No.20431230

>>20430768
People are starting to figure out Covid is just like a flu except way less deadly

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>>20431087

>> No.20431253

>>20430863
Except it's cars are the lowest quality of all brands...
Defects are through the roof...

>> No.20431262

>>20431021
That’s not why the line went down. They needed money and issues new shares today. Dillutionart offering. They needed money and there was no reason for it to go up 20% in one day.

>> No.20431292

CLSK has been my comfiest hold

>> No.20431294

>>20431253
If their main battery dies, they literally can't even be towed.

>> No.20431314

>>20430763
>I bought a WMT call with a strike price of $140 and it's expiring Aug 21st, am I gonna make it?
no

>> No.20431326

>>20430761
Too boomer to work. I am bullish on WMT more than any other stock but it doesn't move like that

>> No.20431329

>>20431230
I have covid
It's pretty bad desu

>> No.20431339

For those doing credit spreads, how often do you manage to get into trades where the premium is roughly 75% of the overall collateral? Ie, you receive 360, overall collateral is 500

>> No.20431358

>>20431326
What you mean too boomer to work?

>> No.20431367

The stock market is going to crash tomorrow. Nothing is safe.

>> No.20431376

>>20431329
Yeah fuck this thing. I'm for letting the economy go on I disagree with the lockdowns I know I'm a minority being sick but damn the symptoms still fucking suck

>> No.20431378

>>20431329
Let me guess. It feels like a flu except clinics won't take you because your life is in no actual danger.
Was I right?

PS. genuinely get well soon.

>> No.20431474

>>20431376
>>20431378
I mean the symptoms felt like I was going to die. I have acid reflux issues and it feels like they were tag teaming to make me miserable. Umm didn't check a clinic and haven't been tested. Today was the first day I've ate food in three days so it seems to be getting better but I don't trust this thing.

Symptoms to me were
Hard breathing
Confusions
Loss of taste
Coughing but not as horrible as others in family
Chills
Maybe some kind of fever? My head was hot but didn't test
Chest pains
Weakness etc

Definietly isn't a nothingburger desu

>> No.20431506

>>20431230
but it's more deadly? Less deadly than initially thought but still deadly

>> No.20431513

>>20431378
Not the guy you asked but feels like hell. Extreme dizziness throwing up inability to eat anything beyond simple foods. Headaches like a motherfucker and the delerium like symptoms are the hardest. I never had the flu so can't compare but covids no walk in the park

>> No.20431519

>>20431358
Huge mkt cap dividend boomer stock. It takes a lot of money to make walmart move. Rises in the SPX will pull it down as people go more risk-on. It's just not gonna do what you want it to.

>> No.20431538

>>20431474
if you've ever had pneumonia it sounds just like that, I have had it before and its nothing worth panicking over unless you have existing health problems or are elderly

>> No.20431560

>>20431474

Do you have any underlying conditions? Asthma? Diabetes? Are you overweight?

Either way, I'm glad you're beginning to feel better and I'm sorry you had such a rough time with it. I had pneumonia a few years ago and I distinctly remember, after failing to get down a full bowl of soup, painstakingly standing up from my seat and having the most dreadful, ghastly chill run through me as I became overwhelmed with disequilibrium and nausea. I too felt like I was dying. Could barely eat or move for four days and finally had to check myself in to get antibiotics.

>> No.20431582

>>20431474
Sorry man yeah it's no joke. Hope you don't get it too bad as the weeks go on just keep fighting it. You gotta ride it out no other way. Mine lasted over a month but I think that's pretty rare. Call a doc and they can prescribe you nausea meds and headache meds if you want

>> No.20431597

>>20431474
stomach flu is way worse. you basically described bronchitis

>> No.20431605

>>20430943
Exactly, plenty of time for poorfags to accumulate. They arent going bankrupt. I grab a bit more every time it tanks

>> No.20431634

>>20431474
>>20431513
plaguefrens I hear you. I had swine flu like 10 years ago. I was sick for a fucking week, and had these lesions on my face. But I healed quick. Lots of us have stories like that, it does not mean we need to shut down EVERYTHING. At least not to me anyways.
Stay hydrated and try to see a doctor. Grab an uber or something.

>>20431506
I think death rate depends on which coast or which state, but it's honestly not very high. Less than 1% in most places outside of NYC

Again, good luck all. I've been there too

>> No.20431639

>>20430863
>t. Knows nothing about 3d printing

>> No.20431692

>>20431634
flu kills about 60k people a year in the US, covid already killed 138k in 6 months
it may be less than 1% but saying its less deadly than the flu is just straight up wrong

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I have a bull call spread on NFLX Aug14 525/550. I'm thinking about closing the 550C leg and double down on the 525C leg. Dumb idea?

>> No.20431740

>>20431724

Your calls are fucked.

>> No.20431753

>>20431692
A weak flu kills 60k

500k death per year flus are regular too

>> No.20431754

>>20431560
Yours sounds MUCH MUCH worse... I mean I've having trouble for sure and it sucks. But it can always be worse. Thanks for the support fren. That sounds horrible...
I hope you get better.

>>20431582
Yeah I'm trying to not get too comfortable. I feel ok now but it is good one second than you feel like you're going to die the next. Pretty horrible. We're gonna make it

>>20431634
The economy is going to be fucked up either way. If we let it go than the deaths and the people going to hospital will rise and less people will go to restaurants anyway. Plus itll make the possibility of making the virus stronger

>>20431538
Not really but I still get worried. I haven't gotten sick in over 15+ years

>> No.20431757

>>20431634
Christ that's crazy. Yeah no one understands unless they go through it. Swineflu to me was a total meme but this exp made me realize how fragile we are and that these viruses can fuck you up. I never get fucking sick and covid destroyed me for a while. And agreed closing things down is dumb I get that we're rarities. Happy you're good now plaguefren

>> No.20431777

>>20431474
>>20431513
Oh and zinc seems to help. Try to find some Zicam if you can.

>>20431692
It's not wrong, but these internet arguments never go anywhere. Believe whatever you want I guess

>> No.20431785

Have any of you anon's followed any special aqusition companies as of late like FEAC or FVAC for MP materials?

Also where does biz stand on oil with MRO and SSL?

>> No.20431786

>>20431754
>I hope you get better.

That happened three years ago and it was pneumonia, like I mentioned. I haven't been sick for about 8 or 9 months now, not least due to having been let go from work and not being in close proximity with anyone since.

Anyway, get well soon!

>> No.20431794

>>20431740
Yeah the 525C I bought is probably gone. Should I close the 550C I sold tomorrow? Or do you think it will go lower.

>> No.20431818

>>20431754
Yeah I remember that being a positive and a negative. It comes in waves sometimes you think you're good and then BAM it's like you feel the virus attacking you. It's actually nice to talk about this no one I know has had it so feels good to finally bitch about this. Best of luck we're gonna make it

>> No.20431849

>>20431724
>he listened to the netflix shill
ngmi

>> No.20431850

I officially refuse to listen to any option play suggestions from here on out. I swear all my profits come from hungover split second decisions so I'm gonna keep riding that wave.

april snap puts when it was <$20 share. OvErVaLuEd (expired worthless)
Sonos 7/17 $20c a month ago, paid $50 a contract and managed to sell today for $5

>tfw when I bought long term Peloton calls when it was $34 tho :^)

>> No.20431856

>>20431753
If you're talking about the spanish flu that was the last large scale pandemic in human history, that is not regular
>>20431777
How do the numbers make it not wrong? If you want to argue about the ratio to cases and deaths flu still has a lower death rate. I legit don't understand how you could possibly think that covid is less deadly unless you have a completely different definition of what a death rate is.

>> No.20431865

>>20431818
Aww it's ok fren.
My brother infected my entire house so I'm getting a taste of it affects people.

We're gonna make it fren.

>>20431786
O my bad..I got hit with tons of (you)s and got confused.

>> No.20431872

>>20431597
>stomach flu is way worse
You’re a pussy. A stomach flu is nothing.

>>20431538
This is a virus that causes pneumonia and other bizarre symptoms. It doesn’t sound like pneumonia, it is pneumonia that infects your circulatory system and spreads through the epithelial cells lining your blood vessels. And it seems to also fuck up the liver and kidneys: two organs that have a lot to do with blood.

>>20431634
swine flu fucking sucked. SUCKED.

The shutdowns are being targeted by cities and states, no the whole country shouldn’t have to shutdown again. But public transportation basically does, and bars and nightclubs do.

But the problem is, as much as I hate to admit it, we’re idiots. People tried to return to normal. They can’t handle wearing a fucking paper surgical mask. What the fuck? It’s not even difficult.

If we were like the Taiwanese, we’d be golden. But we’re not. It’s embarrassing.

>> No.20431902

>>20430988
Working for UPS is better and that's saying something

>> No.20431925

>>20431850
>I swear all my profits come from hungover split second decisions so I'm gonna keep riding that wave.

It's sad, after I dipped back in a month ago and started playing options again I made like 10 profitable trades in a row. This week I didn't cut a loss I should have and now my confidence is completely fucked, not to mention this horrible crabbing. The trade I made after that was wrong; paper trades I've done to test my ideas without losing any money have been wrong, etc. I'm just going to sit things out for a while until a new trend is defined.

>> No.20431943

>>20431538
I think I've had pnemonia. Covids like pnemonia plus a neurological fucking like a never ending hangover at times. Pnemonia scary but covids definitely worse from my exp

>> No.20431956

>>20431872
Until you’re writhing in pain, overheated as fuck and wondering when it’ll end
It ranges from a pit in your stomach to Poseidon twisting his trident counterclockwise while you feel as though you’re scewered over a campfire.

>> No.20431960

>>20431474
>Symptoms to me were
>Hard breathing
>Confusions
>Loss of taste
>Coughing but not as horrible as others in family
>Chills
>Maybe some kind of fever? My head was hot but didn't test
>Chest pains
>Weakness etc
I’ve had these since February. Flickering in and out like a shorting wire.

>> No.20431968

>>20431692
and the flu doesnt normally doesnt kill 60k people. that would be a very very bad year

>> No.20431980

>>20431960

You've had these symptoms coming in and out for five months?

>> No.20431990

>>20431872
You're referencing outlier symptoms and effects of the sickness that may or may not even be related as most severe cases are a result of preexisting conditions. Most cases are even asymptomatic and a very large number of people will never even knew they had it.

>> No.20431992

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fgrbWfUrO4

i just saw the chainlink gains thread and im so jealous

>gdp
>gdp per person
>gdp per person per person

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>look at catalog
>it's completely infested with threads dedicated to specific shitcoins
Why the fuck isn't this shit contained? Does this board have any content dedicated to BUSINESS and FINANCE?

>> No.20432038

>>20431314
but why

>> No.20432045

>>20431992

I mean it's cool and all that another cryptocurrency is popping off but people were making plenty more off WKHS and UONE here. Hard to know how high chainlink is going to go but a lot of people are going to get fucking washed out.

>> No.20432054

>>20431865
Thnx fren good you have family with you. Going through it alone sucks and adds to the fear.

>>20431872
Yeah but we've just got a different culture. Plus everything's so political masks shouldnt be enforced but should be encouraged. But the left is maniacal and the right is stubborn. It's just a shitshow

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>Kudlow vs Mnuchin, fighting over extending unemployment and more payouts from IRS.
Steve wants more.
Larry wants to kill it.
This really is tells us if we should exit market on 27th.

>> No.20432068

>>20432019

First time on /biz/?

>> No.20432083

>>20432019
I want so bad for there to be a /cry/ board, away from /biz/. This board has suffered so much. The catalog is shit. LINK dominates it with at least 15 threads at once

>> No.20432086

>>20431980
Yes. It sucks. And it’s also looking like it’s not uncommon, although it’s not talked about much. People obsess over the near term death rate but ignore the reality that millions of people just...aren’t getting better. I’m in my 30s and was /fit/ and healthy before this. I’m generally having more decent days than bad as of the last few months, but it seems to go in waves. Ketogenic diet, vitamins, NAC, hesperidin, CBD, exercise outdoors... all seem to help.

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>>20430748
These are teslas clientele, cars with no fucking personality.

Also I'm shorting DIS

>> No.20432112

>>20432083
link troll threads are fun, anon. You get to see the hilarious replies

>> No.20432126

>>20431692
Is that including pretty boy Floyd since he had it?

>> No.20432131

I sold everything today. Madfe a risky bet by selling all stocks and putting it into BOXL. Got 50% gains and sold. I'm happy, but now I have around 1k to invest. What shoudl I get /biz/. Whats your fav stock right now?

>> No.20432137

>>20432093
FUCK TESLA CARS. FUCK Them bullshit

>> No.20432150

>>20432086
Wtf I've had it on and off for a bit too. I've had three infections best I can guess in about 4 months. Good to know I'm not alone was wondering wtf was going on it fucking sucks man when's this shit going to end. Does this mean we're just never immune? Fuck I miss my life

>> No.20432151

>>20432112
Maybe I'll check them out, Ive never been in one, I just want there to be more variety I guess. Oh LOOK, one is at the top of the catalog right now. I'll check it out.

>> No.20432172

>>20432093
DIsney needs to be shorted for horrible management and no proper vision.
Tesla is more then just the car.
It’s the technology in factory and the car.
Remember everyone mocked Elon for reusable rockets? I do, now SpaceX capturing even the fairings.

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>>20432137
Stay mad.

>> No.20432260

>>20432054
Ironically my family with it had been tougher because everyone is acting up or just being weird etc.
Honestly the person that has helped me the most is my wife believe it or not.

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>>20432019
>it's completely infested with threads dedicated to specific shitcoins
That is what /biz/ is and always has been. In this thread we talk about shitSTOCKS and anime feet.

>> No.20432300

>>20431724
No, I think it is a sound idea. You've got a month for NFLX to recover. In this market, I wouldn't be surprised if you're deep ITM and NFLX is at 600 28 days from now. Double down.

>> No.20432326

igot fucked today and

>> No.20432334

>>20432086
>Keto
There's your problem. Eat more retard.

>> No.20432358

>>20432299
There's a difference though. This is contained. Imagine if there were 20 WKHS threads in the catalog a few weeks back.

>> No.20432379

>>20431794
I disagree. You're $75 from your strike, on a high beta FAGMANN big tech momo stock in a hyperinflating bubble market where money has nowhere else to go for returns.

NFLX 700 EOY.

>> No.20432385

No dump until end of the year right? That or we get shit on the day after labor day since there's gonna be no vaccine.

>> No.20432387

>>20432150
Search #longcovid on Twitter. Estimates are around 1 in 10 have persistent symptoms, but it could be more, could be less. In some instances cause could be reinfections, in others lingering infection and a syndrome similar to ME/CFS. Several friends of mine are in a similar or worse condition; all in their 30s and otherwise healthy before.

Reason to be hopeful: every scientist in the world is working on SARS2 problems right now. All the usual brakes on funding and regulatory barriers to innovation are being cast off. There are going to be breakthroughs. And I’m glad I learned some respect for it and some ways that seem to treat symptoms early; rather that than sleepwalk into the fall and winter where coinfections are going to make everything worse.

>> No.20432392

>>20432260
Gotcha yeah I can see that. Good you have your wife then I had a girl help me through covid too and would've been a lot tougher without her

>> No.20432412

>>20432172
I am not against Elon himself. Its just that the cars are horrible inside and out, the worse part is that some manufacturers are fucking copying that annoying tesla middle tablet(eg 2021 mercedes benz S class). I wish musk got it together with the interior and exterior designs because its like it was designed by fisher price.

>> No.20432413

>>20432385
>No dump until end of the year right?
This is an impossible question to answer.

>> No.20432419

tomorrow prediction: people will keep selling off tech at open through midday because of shit nflx earnings then jp will swoop in and pump the stocks which will be sold after hours and premarket monday. Tech is fucked

>> No.20432444

>>20432387
>accelerated treatments

This is never a good sign because of the possible side effects. What a fucking nightmare, thanks chinks.

>> No.20432454

>>20431856
>>20431856
Spanish flu killed 16 million idiot

>> No.20432464

>>20432413
I mean if its not labor day than what could feasibly cause a dump this year? Q2/3 earnings are all expected to be shit so they're not gonna panic sell and the Fed is here to shore up anything that looks like a plunge.

>> No.20432471

>>20432172
Covid will bite Disney in the ass hard, especially here in Florida when reopening the parks may have not been such a good idea after all!

>> No.20432475

>>20432334
It’s a recent development and seems to help. Can’t argue with fish, steaks and vegetables.

>> No.20432480

>>20431253
>>20431294
they have consumer reports recommendation again for model 3 and S.

remember that video where that german engineer took a model 3 all the way apart so he could say how bad it was and then was really surprised how well engineered it was?

i don't know man, teslas are honestly pretty sick. i had an uber ride in a model 3 and i couldn't believe how cool it was. felt like the first time i used an iphone.

>> No.20432485

>>20432419

The fact that a lot of people are saying tech is fucked is starting to make me believe the opposite now. Some stocks will sharply correct, sure, but not the entire sector.

People will continue crying about the "clown market" but market behavior isn't obligated tot be rational.

>> No.20432493

>>20432454
Yeah, in 2 years. We still have over a year and a half mate

>> No.20432509

>>20432387
Holy shit. Thank you so fucking much. Thought I was insane and alone getting this over and over. Gonna do some reading and get back to you

>> No.20432553

>>20432493
>barely 500k at 6 months in
its a joke, but people love panicking because they live sheltered lives to the point where they cant comprehend mortality even if its only a .002% chance

>> No.20432555

>>20431872
stomach flu you cant even move because of the nausea, thats worse than any fucking fever or cough... wtf are you saying

>> No.20432556

Is tech really fucked? The rest of the economy, sure. But nasdaq companies are weighted towards business models that will do well in a sustained pandemic dominated economy.

>> No.20432562

>>20432019
We're all aware, anon.
Sometimes, it's fun just to follow the price so that when it drops you can make one of those threads that goes like this
>OH LINKIIIIEEEEESSSS...
Also, nice pic. Fukken saved.

>>20432083
What would this /cry/ board consist of? What's the purpose of such a board?

>>20432299
Based.

>> No.20432568

>>20432509
Good luck anon

>> No.20432579

>>20432553
do you not know expontentials work? Spanish Flu didnt kill 10 million people comin out of the pussy, it took time. most of the deaths were in the LAST 6 months. Similar to COVID.

>> No.20432596

>>20432562
Literally a board dedicated to only Cryptocurrencies and cryto discussion. That's it.

>> No.20432597
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20432597

>>20432062
It's a ruse. They both want it, but they want to get Trump his Payroll TaxCut first.

Yes. This is how boomers work. They want to decrease the "income" to increase the spending.
And these people lived all their lives in a time when one needed to balance a checkbook.

>>20432299
gross no.
in this thread we talk about anime armpits and lolipiss.

>> No.20432602

>>20432556

There are some overvalued companies that might see a correction, but I don't think Google, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon etc. warrant one. What might happen is that a large correction to a handful of big names will drag the rest down, which could have a shock effect on the rest of the market and cause widespread capitulation.

>> No.20432621

>>20432562
I humbly submit that a crypto containment board be created and all shit coin posts be banished to it.

>> No.20432626

More than 1/3 of my portfolio is in cash right now. Shill me something

>> No.20432630

>>20432579
>it took time
lmao ok /cvg/ the spanish flu was spread by WW1 mostly and the quite primitive medical technology for the time, its not going anywhere near that level and you're a straight up schizo to think it will be

>> No.20432631

>>20431925
crabbing is nice for iron condors or covered calls.

there's always a play anon, just keep trying new things.

>> No.20432683

>>20432596
>>20432621
I believe that might literally be what /biz/ was created for, and that /g/ used to be polluted with shitcoin threads prior.
So, our thread and the handful of others are just islands that arose in the swamp of shitcoins that is /biz/

>> No.20432690

>>20432631

After my tax refund comes in I'm going to try a very conservative day trading strategy, cutting my losers quickly and cutting my winners for modest profits, always playing one contract at a time to minimize big losses and help me keep my cool. What I need is to maintain completely psychological control of myself. I should have sold when I had the chance. Not adhering to a no-exceptions loss-cutting system was what wrecked me.

>> No.20432726
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20432726

wtf lmao

>> No.20432743

Are we going to dump tomorrow /biz/?

>> No.20432758

>>20432387
i swear /smg/ is the only place i actually learn anything. thank you for telling us about this anon, i had no idea.

>> No.20432766
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20432766

>>20432387
>Estimates are around 1 in 10 have persistent symptoms
jesus christ!
I thought the fear was just a short immunity period! It could be constantly semi-dormant? Like fucking herpes but instead of cold sores you get fucking pneumonia from your flare ups?!?

>>20432019
was this game any good or just a meme?
any of the other meme games any good? Do I need to try helltaker or undertale or some shit?


>>20431262
This for:
>>20431172

>> No.20432774

>>20432726
Just a prank bro.

>> No.20432785

>>20432726
Mickey Mouse and Jeff Bezos are already lvl 99 when Netflix struggles with secondary quests

>> No.20432792

>>20432412
God I wish Tesla would moon and CEQP would return to $11 for a while. I want to exit my Tesla position at about 1600$ still in a profit. I want more CEQP and PGX.

>> No.20432805
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>>20432743
If digits we pump tomorrow

>> No.20432816

>>20432683
It’s turtles all the way down. It’s odd that during the most momentously unprecedented and volatile market conditions in history... most of /biz/ is swamped with shilled shitcoin posts.

Okay then, at least we have this.

>> No.20432828
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>>20432464
>I mean if its not labor day than what could feasibly cause a dump this year?
what makes you think market is going to move any particular way around labor day?

>> No.20432834

Literally if MSFT gets rekt by earnings its a 99% guarantee that the rest of tech is gonna get demolished. NFLX shitting the bed as the #1 streaming service doesn't help either

>> No.20432842

>>20432834
>99% guarantee
no such animal

>> No.20432850

>>20432828
That's the hype date for a vaccine that the government is touting and I'd imagine the reopening is priced in for on or before that day since it also (somewhat) coincides with schools reopening.

>> No.20432859

>>20432690
thats a good plan anon, that discipline is important. keep it up, we're all gonna make it

>> No.20432883

>>20432850
>hype date for a vaccine that the government is touting
I expect you will be underwhelmed by the level of fuck market gives about things like this.

>> No.20432905

>>20432834
When does msft release their earnings?

>> No.20432947

>>20432905
7/22/20 I think

>> No.20432953
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20432953

I'm up about 6% right now overall. Should I cut all my losses and reinvest into [hopefully] better plays or hang on and see if some of my meme stinkers turn green again?

>> No.20432992
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20432992

>>20432953
Dump the absolute stinkers, if you don't believe in your thesis about them anymore.

>> No.20433033

>>20431754
>plus it'll make the virus stronger
Why don't you understand 2% of virology before being retarded. The more people a virus kills and the faster it does so the faster it burns itself out. Extremely deadly viruses don't exist very long for a reason while mild and annoying ones irritate us every year; put a couple of those brain cells to use and think about why that is.

>> No.20433036

>>20432568
If you're still around just wanted to thank you again. All my best and good luck to you as well anon really helped me out with that longcovid call out. Sorry how much this sucks but we can get through it

>> No.20433040

>>20432992
99% of smg is typ 1 and 2 bagholding piece of shit like rtx

>> No.20433047

>>20432766
>I thought the fear was just a short immunity period! It could be constantly semi-dormant? Like fucking herpes but instead of cold sores you get fucking pneumonia from your flare ups?!?
We don’t know yet. It could be all of the above or something else at root. But we do know herd immunity meme was a stupidly short term sociopathic idea and future textbook fail at fat tail risk management.

>> No.20433060

Is Walmart solid? Is it gonna go up?

>> No.20433069

>>20433060
It'll go bankrupt any minute, stay away.

>> No.20433080

>>20432992
>>20433040
My worst stinkers are probably oil and REITs, but I do still think they'll recover eventually. Any upcoming shorter-term plays to be made or is shit too volatile?

>> No.20433092

Should I go with BOTZ or ARKK?

>> No.20433100

>>20430748
tesla - makes cars that are not profitable
car companies - make profitable cars

why are all the dinosaur manufacturers not making pure BEVs? don't they know tesla is the best? why does toyota keep making the prius anyhow?

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>>20433040
>bagholding piece of shit like rtx
>bagholding
>RTX
>piece of shit
>RTX

>> No.20433118

>>20433069
Bankrupt? That’s bullish

>> No.20433121

>>20433113
he's right it is

>> No.20433138

>>20433080
sell them and buy bluechips and tech

>> No.20433150

When daytrading is it more common to use market orders or actually set defined limit orders based on some sort of TA?

>> No.20433152

>>20433036
Thanks anon. You’ll get through this. Amongst the worst of it was not having a model early on other than being told anyone younger than boomer tier is meant to be fully recovered within a week or two. There are millions of others like us out there by now who know this is can be for the long haul, and that makes it easier. Keep an eye on crowdsourced treatments and trawl through google scholar and preprints when you’re not trading.

>> No.20433164

>>20433113
rtx is the fucking stupidest smg shit ever

>> No.20433165
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20433165

>>20433138
Those are quickly becoming the stinks.

>> No.20433182

>>20431148
I made quick solid money working at an Amazon warehouse during the holidays a couple years ago. It was fifteen an hour at the time and I ended up getting overtime hours too. Great for quick cash, wouldn't recommend long term

>> No.20433192

>>20433165
yeah you're about 3 or 4 months too late
but you can't predict this shit anyway so

>> No.20433194

>>20431148
Walmart Distribution pays better and has good 401k match.

>> No.20433213

>>20433150
it's more common to lose money and get beaten by s&p especially with this kind of question
so just don't

>> No.20433220
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20433220

>>20433092
BOTZ is hot garbage that won't make you any money ever
>t bagholder

>> No.20433237

>>20433150
>daytrading
Weekly trading is better.

>> No.20433238
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20433238

Should I fomo into SPCE?

>> No.20433272
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20433272

>>20433192
Ok gupta.

>> No.20433289

>>20433272
i didn't even mean netflix just overall tech/qqq
but yes netflix is absolute garbo recent year(s)

>> No.20433308
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>>20433113
>Lockheed Martin (LMT) roughly 71% of sales coming from the U.S. Government in the form of prime or subcontracts, while 28% originates is international. ... one 1% of sales comes from commercial markets

>Raytheon Technologies (RTX) derives 45% its sales from commercial markets

One day RTX might be good again. But for the foreseeable future, it's a stink.

>>20433165
Netflix is really an entertainment/media company, and certainly not a bluechip.

>>20433272
Are you suggesting netflix is lower than it was during the crash? That seems not right.

>> No.20433322

>>20432385
Minor dump probably tomorrow and going into next week as Congress, Mnuchin, and Kudlow fight over how to stimulate. Mostly gonna affect Nasdaq though. Rotation into boomer stocks has commenced. Tech will be back with a vengeance by August, though. AMZN 420, TSLA 2500, MSFT 300 AAPL 500 NVDA 600, NFLX 700 EOY

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20433328

>>20433238
It has been crabbing for months. Why would it stop now?

>> No.20433334

>>20433308
the floundering of Disney plus and the "wars" that Netflix started and is currently surviving should give you an idea. They have invested a ton of money to handle all of that data.

>> No.20433335

>>20433308
... oh. Oh my. I agree LMT is a much better choice for defense position.

>> No.20433365

>>20433100
Tesla has higher gross margins than their competitors, the difference is that they use their revenue to expand their business, open factories, and produce more EVs while the other companies sit on their hands with declining revenue.
>why are all the dinosaur manufacturers not making pure BEVs?
Why didn't most horse carriage makers produce automobiles? Why didn't Nokia make a smartphone?

>> No.20433380

>>20433237
1 stock, market, sector, subsector, daymarket

one unifying stock to save them all

>> No.20433405

Netflix drop was an overreaction, will be buying short term calls on this. Easy play, easy money.

>> No.20433425

>>20433238
No, fren, don't do it. SPCE may never turn a profit before being replaced by orbital tourism.

>> No.20433464

>>20433237
Options are better for day trading, stocks are better for swinging. Theta fucks you hard unless you deliberately buy long-dated options

>> No.20433487

>>20433425
>may never turn a profit
Didnt people say the same about tsla? Why not ride the space normie hype?

>> No.20433511

>>20433033
This is true. The MERS outbreak a few years back had a 65% death rate. Over half the people that contracted it died. It only lasted a few months because people were getting it and dying within days. There wasn't any chance to spread it. That shit could have been apocalyptic if it had any kind of incubation period.

>> No.20433515
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>>20433365
their gross margins are bullshit. they hide warranty costs. BEVs are not appreciably different from PHEVs. why are you talking about horses and carriages? are you retarded?

>> No.20433527

>>20432834
It's down 8 whole fucking percent bruh. Sure it will go down more tomorrow, but you must be new if you think 8% AH is something. It's obvious that this run up in big tech was gonna end with all the high fliers selling off on high expectations.

My general rule of thumb for earnings is to hold anything that is trending flat or down in the 2-3 weeks prior, and let go of anything that has run up hard.

Protip: Google and Facebook will blow away expectations and fly. MSFT and AAPL will probably be good for selling iron condors or strangles for that sexy high IV premium. TSLA is gonna get dunked on. AMZN is far enough away that if it continues to drop to about 2600-700 and holds there before the 30th, it will likely jump hard back to 3k+

Semis are still too far out into August to tell.

>> No.20433533

>>20430731
Thanks fren, will do fine research this weekend.

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>>20433515
tesla is at least a decade ahead of any competitor. reminder that by 2030 every car manufacturer will be using tents

>> No.20433598

>>20433557
They double as a greenhouse so Musk can grow dank weed when they're not in production.

>> No.20433635
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20433635

So many pajeets in investing.com comment sections.

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20433685

>>20433598
like right now? 130+ COVID-19 cases at the factory and they shut it down to "upgrade the model Y production line" AKA tent.

>> No.20433719

>>20433527
I've typically been doing put credit spreads on amazon, but I've held off. I was going to enter one tomorrow for next week, but you are saying the price is likely to continue falling next week?

>> No.20433755

I told That asexual bitch that I always thought there was a chance she was always a lesbian.
Now she would feel insulted if she was lying.
BOOM. I'm such a badass.

>> No.20433803

>>20430919
Let's go MVIS.

>> No.20433827

>>20433487
They said that about TSLA, they were wrong. With SPCE it's actually true, I don't remember the exact amount of seats SPCE has to sell to be profitable but it's a lot. By the time they seriously get up and running, their rivals like SpaceX and Blue Orgin will be able to send people to space hotels. There's no life left in suborbital tourism, it's like expecting people to spend tens of thousands of dollars for a vacation that last just a few minutes before being they are forced to go back home. The people who can afford to blow a million dollars on a short trip would be willing to spend a few more million and get to stay in space for a few days instead of minutes.
>>20433515
What are you talking about? Their warranty costs have nothing to do with their gross margin. The goodwill vs warranty TSLAQ argument is played out but you should be aware that EVs require less maintenance than ICE so they still have the advantage even if you want to cry about how they write their books.
>BEVs are not appreciably different from PHEV
Yes they are. Plugins don't need quality batteries and management systems.
>why are you talking about horses and carriages?
That's the best analogy. EVs are to ICE as the automobile was to horse drawn carriages. If it was simple to transition to EV production, the automakers wouldn't be having such trouble doing it.
>are you retarded?
Not as retarded as someone who shorted TSLA because they read some misinformation somewhere and thought they were Michael Burry. Retard.

>> No.20433951
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20433951

TAKE DOWN THE GUN, BOBO!
DONT DO IT!

>> No.20433962

>>20433827
>Plugins don't need quality batteries and management systems
why the fuck wouldn't they?
>EVs are to ICE as the automobile was to horse drawn carriages
no they aren't. the first EV predates the model T. putting panasonic 18650s in a car isn't exactly revolutionary. I don't have to hold a short position against tesla to hold any of these opinions. you're the one who drank the flavoraid

>> No.20433997

>>20433951
who cares about september

>> No.20434013

>>20433069
Shut up dude, I have 3 shares and a call. I'm 18 and tryna get the bag as the african americans say

>> No.20434055

>>20434013
if you want to be like a nigger maybe you should just deal drugs instead

>> No.20434062

>>20433635
>investing.com comment sections.
Why go there? Might as well go to stocktwits

>> No.20434128

>>20434055
Well I did sell some weed to some seniors when I was a junior but I'm going to a college with one of the highest phd production rates in the country lol, this is just something I'm doing with the money I have saved up from my job. "get the bag" is more of a gen z colloquialism, not necessarily tied a specific race

>> No.20434143

>>20434128
*to

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>>20434128
i feel like securing the bag terminology came from fortnite in some capacity

>> No.20434177

>>20434128
no you were right the first time, its definitely nigger speak but ebonics has kind of become inseparable from american youth so its no surprise

>> No.20434189

I need a good day for tech stock this week has sucked

>> No.20434193

>>20433962
>why the fuck wouldn't they?
Because it doesn't matter to them, they have actual engines and they can generate power from gas. The range of most PHEVs are still only around 50 km, that is nothing. A PHEV is just a ICE vehicle with a small battery and generator, a EV is completely designed around the battery and electric motors. Their drivetrains are completely different in most cases.
>no they aren't. the first EV predates the model T.
Technologically they are, your strawmanning what was invented first is almost as retarded as your original point. EVs have better performance, they're more efficient, they have a fraction of the amount of moving parts, they have way less maintenance, a much lower cost to operate and the list goes on.
>I don't have to hold a short position against tesla to hold any of these opinions
Yet you do, or you had in the past and got fucked by it. All your arguments have been refuted thousands of times before, you're just regurgitating shit you've heard but never actually researched. If you think EVs are inferior, this is the perfect time to short TSLA.

>> No.20434195

>>20434177
Well yeah, what I guess I meant to say was it definitely originated from black people but it's common jargon for people my age now

>> No.20434228
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>>20434195
no it came from fortnite dude i was around when they started saying that

securing the bag or getting a bag is like saying youre taking the W or taking an L

i guess when youre looting and you secure the win kind of

im almost certain on this

niggers didnt invent it

>> No.20434237

>>20433060
Crab

>> No.20434241

>>20434228
Ah well you might be right, idk. I don't play fortnite

>> No.20434247

>>20433040
Rtx will reward the patient. Be happy you can still accumulate.

>> No.20434266

Fucking crab market pls frens kill it
Futures have been an absolute bore these couple of days

>> No.20434374

>>20434189
Not going to get that tomorrow or most of next week

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20434404

I'm scared bros.

We're crabbing at 0% interest rate, and probably will continue to do so for years.
What happens when they pump the interest rate to 0.2%?

>> No.20434419
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20434419

TURN THE PRINTER OFF

TURNNNNNN IT OFFFFFFFFFF


AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.20434475

we should buy medical waste disposal companies lol

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>>20434404
>2010
Also, the S&P 500 bubble is concentrated in FAANG and the like.

>> No.20434521

whats the next WKHS

>> No.20434526

>>20434521
cunny

>> No.20434555

>>20434526
Based.

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20434574

Hmmm.... I think gold and silver may pull back a few percent from here before going in to bullish continuation. I might bail tomorrow if there isn't a resurgence of buy interest in the morning.

>> No.20434585

>>20434505
yeah but in 30 years I may be dead, I'm investing to have some rest in 15 years.

>> No.20434615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ0EaZn8LfU

>> No.20434624

>>20434526
>>20434555
New thread theme
https://youtu.be/Q86U5kD7Y84
Skip to 1:24

>> No.20434633

>>20434615
fuck off

>> No.20434654

>>20434633
No you fuck off.

>> No.20434700

I fucking hate the spread on Dow 30 futures.

>> No.20434714
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20434714

>You’re viewing 4Channel: a new social network by Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia.

>>20434574
yay!
I really want a chance to buy 100 SLV for covered callies and a decent commodity hedge!
(also wanna order some physical coins, largely because I think it'd be nice and fun to have some shiny -- and you never know)

You're getting bored or you're concerned?

>> No.20434726

c-caprchads?

>> No.20434729
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20434729

those fucking NFLX shills from the last 2 days trying to make people buy into their shit stock...
I feel like it must have been trolls luring newbies into a seemingly "safe bet"
>hurr subscriptions up
>hurr disregard Q1 not being met
>hurr disregard higher Q2 expectations

fuck them, I tried warning people multiple times, hopefully not too many frens fell for the scam

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>>20433755
It's not a question of whether she's lying mr. scoops, a lot of people think they want one thing but really want another. Her objet petit a is the social benefits gleaned from being on the LGBT spectrum, crossed with guilt for her socioeconomic position. But really, if you ripped her true desire from her soul would it be the convenience and cache of her nebulous position on the progressive stack? I doubt it. You must be kind to her she is living out of balance
>>20434574
If there's a significant dip I'm hammering buy

>> No.20434769

I only come to this general because the first stock I bought was KTOV from /psg/ and I bought it at 1.20 like a retard while you guys helped me triple my investment. I love you bizzies

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>>20434714
>You're getting bored or you're concerned?
Eh, just momentum is showing signs of tapering off temporarily. I remain macro bullish on shiny rocks but I don't want to be holding if they're going to do some rangey consolidation for a little while. I can use that cash for other things in the interim.

>> No.20434791

>>20433755
oh wow you told someone who didn’t want to have sex that they’re a lesbian, that’s an interesting coping mechanism to deal with the fact you’re probably just unattractive

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20434801

So what is VXRT gonna do tomorrow bros?

>> No.20434807

>>20434729
What kind of idiot would fall for that scam anyway? Market is based on growth, Netflix hasn't done anything innovative in years. No one is buying new accounts because everyone just uses someone else's.

>> No.20434813

Tomorrows the big 3230 retest day. Is 3rd time a charm or are we dipping back down to 3000 over the next week?

>> No.20434825

>>20434791
GO BACK

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cant fall asleep...

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>>20434834
sleep easy Anon

you can hold losses for months until you reach break even and then you can sell at $0 profit

>> No.20434883

Buy EVRI

>> No.20434906

>>20434193
engines last longer than huge batteries. the amount of moving parts argument doesn't matter so much if you can make an engine for very little and it can run for a third of a million miles on nothing but regular maintenance. battery management isn't nearly as complicated, and hybrids have to tackle that problem all the same. tesla is going to wreck a lot of traders.

>> No.20434945

>>20434825
>defending a tripfag
oh are you ugly too? some unobtainable whore in your life that you’re angry won’t fuck you?

>> No.20434952

>>20434574
>>20434714
>>20434770
I'd be more tempted to do this for Gold, not silver. Both gold and silver miners still have a lot of upward room based on spot, so I wouldn't be too inclined to sell those, maybe just slow on the averages and move into other positions, maybe just cash.

>> No.20435006

>>20434615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg4YzRhILFE&t

This is better.

>> No.20435049

>>20434906
>engines last longer than huge batteries
Except they don't. The average EV battery will outlive the life of the car, slowly degrading but perfectly useful for anyone that doesn't need the max range of their car. There's already a lot of data on this via the Tesla fleet.
>the amount of moving parts argument doesn't matter so much if you can make an engine for very little
The amount of moving parts definitely matters as well as the added complexity of ICE that increases maintenance cost. It's not just the cost of the engine that matters either, it's the cost of the drivetrain as a whole, which is why PHEVs are the worst of both worlds and will never win. EVs are already close to par with ICE drivetrains and soon they'll be cheaper.
>battery management isn't nearly as complicated
Battery management and cooling is actually very complex and there's a lot of technology that goes into perfecting range/efficiency. EVs can't use waste heat from a engine either so they need a different heating and cooling system.
>tesla is going to wreck a lot of traders.
Are you brave enough to short it or not? So far TSLA has wrecked more short sellers than any stock in history. Go walk in front of it and see what happens.

>> No.20435085

Futures too fucking wild this week, holy shit most of my swings got stopped out.

>> No.20435104

was it a bad idea to buy sqqq yesterday? are we going to be red tomorrow. Us bears are getting hungry

>> No.20435107

>>20435049
Can you post this data? My 1997 Honda civic lasted nearly 20 years and had well over 300,000 miles with nothing more than regular oil changes, belts and water pump changes. I'm very hard pressed to believe a battery would last 20 years of constant charging/ recharging.

>> No.20435130

>>20435104
You've been eating at the nasdaq's expense all week

>> No.20435142

>>20435130
i only became a bear yesterday

>> No.20435143

>>20435104
no it was a great idea, nasdaq bloodbath incoming

>> No.20435247
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20435247

>>20435104
>was it a bad idea to buy sqqq yesterday?
It's always a bad idea to buy SQQQ. The upward bias of the market is a huge advantage that isn't worth trading against. It's the same reason why casinos are just slightly more likely to win yet make massive profits.
>>20435107
This is outdated but easier to read than the updated graph that has been making rounds. The new batteries from Tesla and CATL are way better than this and battery is degradation is no longer a real problem. Tesla already" covers all battery capacity degradation in all its vehicles with a limit of 70% capacity for up to 8 years or 100,000 to 150,000 miles depending on the model". Obviously there are no 20 year old Tesla batteries but the data shows they are very likely to outlast the average car, which from the top of my head only lasts something like ten years before being scrapped.

>> No.20435295
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20435295

will J-Pow finally save us or not?

>> No.20435316

>>20435247
>only lasts something like ten years before being scrapped
Eastern Europe and Africa are fucked with electric cars then

>> No.20435339

>>20435104
We’ll eat up then faggot. Some of my AMZN puts have printed this week

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20435404

>>20435295
Yes. No one wants this market to crash and the Fed made it clear that they won't allow it. Only dumb money is short

The market crash can occure, but the Fed will respond with the same policy - more money printing

>> No.20435445

>>20435404
you’re wrong, it will crash very soon to lows not seen in our lifetimes

>> No.20435491

If Amazon doesn't hit $2900 tomorrow, I make $4k on my $40k collateral put spread. Fucking please. I'll do this shit every motherfucking week.

What are some strong tech companies besides Amazon and Tesla with high option liquidity and high volatility while being "strong" companies? I was thinking maybe Apple for 5% gains instead of Amazon's 10.5% that I've been gunning for.

>> No.20435502

>>20434834
Buy 22 more and sell covered calls

>> No.20435535

>>20430748
Tesla is currently not the best at batteries, luxury or mid scale vehicles, solar, or even market share in the EV market in much of the world.
It is pure conSOOMerism worship of the meme man.
>>20435491
Maybe Netflix now

>> No.20435553

>>20435491
Very possible we have a dump tomorrow and next week. I keep queuing and cancelling put spreads for 3000/3005 07/24 at $3.5 because I'm just not sure what the hell amazon is going to do

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20435579

Hello anons

>> No.20435584

>>20430748
Tesla is going to fail hard. Model 3 ate the market share of Model S and X in Europe. 0 growth. Btw the competition now has more interesting things to offer than Tesla, and as soon as they started offering a good car, Audi are nearly all the market share of Tesla in some countries lol

>> No.20435589

>>20430748
Hybrids is where its at.

>> No.20435615

WHERE MY ONTX NIGGAS AT

>> No.20435629

>>20435316
It won't be the battery that takes them off the road. Even ICE vehicles are becoming more like cellphones in terms of technology and fixing electronic issues on old vehicles can be so expensive that you may as well scrap the car. The rate of technological advancement and how quickly systems like self driving and entertainment will become obsolete may steer people to robotaxis instead of vehicle ownership. Robotaxis already have a huge advantage for customer peace of mind, few people want the liability of owning a car if they don't need one. The lack of a driver means they can become cheaper than public transportation in some cases.
>>20435535
Tesla is a leader in batteries, but more important, the leader in battery management and all the systems that interact with it. It's not just the technology that matters either, unless you can start to produce your own batteries like Tesla you're going to be limited in terms of production. Already companies like VW are having trouble getting enough batteries for their cars despite relatively few EVs being produced. This issue will only get worse.

>> No.20435653
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20435653

WHAT WAS THAT

>> No.20435689

>>20435629
>Tesla is a leader in batteries
BMW's iX3 & Nissan's Ariya already have much longer battery lives than any current Tesla model.
The Renault Zoe is basically "free" now for a low end consumer model in Germany with electric car subsidies. Tesla basically has lost most market share entirely to Audi in northern Europe.
Tesla is a bag of mediocre segments that use CONSOOMERISM loyalty to the meme man to charge you a premium. Even Elon admits his major innovation was "vertical integration".

>> No.20435701

>Busting a nut inside of a wet warm pussy today

Any stocks for this feeling?

>> No.20435713

Any COVID testing companies to look at?

LabCorp?
Quest?

OPK? I think this one is the penny stock general moon mission.

>> No.20435714
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20435714

>>20435445
Do you understand that every fucking millionere in the world bought huge amounts of shares at March bottom, except memed Buffett? Do you understand that we are experiencing the same run up in the market, which similarly occured in the first half of 2009, even thought the economy bottommed only in 2009-2010? Do you understand that the current US administration depends on NASDAQ going higher? Do you understand that the rich absolutely loves NASDAQ going higher, because all their wealth is allocated in the stock market or real estate? Do you understand that the only solution to any crisis is MORE money printing?

Honestly, you pathetic bears are the worst. I so fucking hate myself for listening to you in April/May, because I had this thesis months ago, but every time I was told that the market will crash soon. I'm aware that I'm a fucking loser, and I really hate myself for being stupid.

So literally, just fuck off. It's not even funny. Yes, the market may correct itself. But saying that we will see March lows is retarded by any means. If you are a degenerate gambler and bought a fucking cruise line, then probably yes. But I am in tech, and I'm simply adding more every two weeks, and I highly recommend you to do the same

>> No.20435726

>>20435701
Puts and Shorts, point it at any tech stock.

>> No.20435755

>SP500 and DJ50 in the red
>Nasdaq holding
>red vix
Pump at pre-market incoming.

>> No.20435777

>>20435755
>pump back into Tech
BASED

>> No.20435778
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20435778

KLANG KLANG KLANG KLANG KLANG

Premarket open for /biz/. https://www.marketwatch.com/tools/screener/premarket

>> No.20435783

>>20435714
Your last sentence is all anybody needs to read. The rest is fluff. You must be a realtor or car salesman.

>> No.20435797

>>20435777
Me bags need some lifting

>> No.20435800

>>20435553
$3000 is too risky. I looked into some options and I'll be doing Apple instead for 7/24. Sitting out on Amazon for this one. A bad headline like, "Amazon workers test positive for COVID in 63 warehouses" will be fucking terrible.

>>20435535
I'm scared about Netflix, another NASDAQ downturn can double down on its downturn - maybe I'll look at it for 7/31.

>> No.20435805

>>20435714

>But saying that we will see March lows is retarded by any means.

If someone had told you in January/Feburary that the S&P 500 would have hit 2200 in March, would you have believed them?

The market is getting more and more volatile in both directions.

>> No.20435809
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20435809

This Netflix dump is the kind of shit that makes me question the validity of stoplosses.

And I keep not taking note of all the animays I get recommended here, and all the good documentaries and youtube finance videos posted! Too hard to sort through the haystack of archives!

>>20434952
SLV is just physical silver, not the miners. The problem with gold is that I don't want a $17k position in GLD, and I wouldn't want to buy a massive position near all-time highs.

>>20434770
gotcha
well like sun says, I will also be dickslamming the buy button on significant silver weakness.

>> No.20435811

>>20435778
KLANG KLANG KLANG went the trolley, DING DING DING went the bell!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln3sNwccHxI

>> No.20435815

Are my CCL 7/24 $15.5 puts going to print?
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>> No.20435820

>>20435783
No, I'm not a car salesman, but I hate when anons listen to bears and loose their money selling amazon or apple at a loss

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20435826

>>20435811

>> No.20435830

>>20435820
Loose

>> No.20435856

Up 18% on Xerox. Thought about CoreLogic but they are due for a correction. My eyes are on OPK for this upcoming week.

>> No.20435857
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20435857

Netflickers is down 7%. That's the only thing interesting so far in premarket.

>> No.20435858

>>20435830
Yeah, yeah, иди к чepтy, янки

>> No.20435860

>>20435809
Stoplosses have only ever fucked me over. I use trailing stop loss when I want to close a position though

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20435869

>>20435815
pic related

FUCK cruises. A COVID breakout on that one cruise jap near Japan is all you need to know when it comes to cruises and the market.

>> No.20435876

>>20430837
I'll say it again: PnD.
UAVS is not getting any Amazon contract just because it moved an office somewhat near an Amazon building.

>> No.20435877

>>20435858
Chupa Putin's wangchung tonight dirty russ

>> No.20435882

NIO up above 2% pre market.

>> No.20435889

>>20435869
If i'm reading this correctly you should be thanking cruises for being such shit?

>> No.20435898

>>20435882
I wish I could do something other than. Limit orders I'm so tired. 4 hours of sleep

>> No.20435906

>>20435889
Yes, CCL in particular, NCLH was already going down but CCL wasn't so I bought puts on it.

>> No.20435907

>>20435889
Unironically, Robinzoomers are the biggest asset when it comes to making money swing trading airlines and cruise lines.

>> No.20435909
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20435909

>>20435815
damn it I wanted to short as soon as I saw the CDC announcement, 2 minutes after it hit CNBC, but I wussed out.

>>20435778
BANG CLANG KABANG!
HOORAY!!
OK, now that I saw some semiconductors do the crab, I'm going to bed. Love you anime girls and anons!!

>>20435860
same man, big time same

>> No.20435911
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20435911

>>20435860
>I use trailing stop loss when I want to close a position though
Ah ha! Me too. I've been poking around at how to improve my stratey regarding stop losses, when to use, when not, where put. The conclusion I have come to is to mainly use them when I'm getting close to doing an exit. So I think things are getting to buy signal territory but they're not quite there just yet, I snuggle up stop loss but don't sell just yet. It's a slightly better percentage on backtest than using support based stop or fixed percentage, or no stop and wait until sell signal confirms itself. Not a huge difference overall in terms of a year's average return but it's an improvement.

>> No.20435912

>>20435898
Trying to buy it at open?

>> No.20435924

>>20435714
And if you have the capital, look for cheap income property. Accept no higher than 10% off of list price.

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>>20435877
At least russ is not retarded and is making money of your kekd socialism for the rich system

>> No.20435932

>>20435911
>buy signal territory
*sell signal territory

>> No.20435940

>>20435689
The Model S Long Range Plus will have 400 miles of range, that beats the top model of the Ariya at 379 and the iX3 which is only 273 miles. Regardless, this isn't what you should be comparing but efficiency and cost per kWh to produce. Tesla's rivals are losing money on every car they produce and they are still more expensive for what you get. Of course you still find people buying other cars but they are objectively worse cars without access to the supercharger network or even over the air updates in some cases.
>Tesla basically has lost most market share entirely to Audi in northern Europe.
You mean Norway. Just the Model 3 sold 95,000 units in Europe in 2019, the E-Tron sold only 18,000. Tesla registrations are heavily dependent on when they deliver which why some months have zero registrations in certain European countries. Tesla doesn't even have their European factory online yet and any subsidy their competitors get will die out just like the federal EV subsidy in the US. The Norway Tesla sales are trash but there are only 5 million people in the country, you should be looking at places that actually matter like US and China. Tesla has been eating market share in China even against their cheaper rivals.

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20435942

>>20435778
Good morning good morning :D
Futures remarkably flatty, glad to see KOkakola is barley up but they're still a leader! I expect us to return to 3205.95 EXACTLY on /es very soon
>>20435809
hehe I still have all that physical silver in my room, I don't factor it's movement into the dings

>> No.20435952

>>20435912
No, im in such desperation to have a win after the last few weeks im sitting on small profits of BKYI and NIO. Scared it will crash. Was out of day trades yesterday and was forced to watch BKYI drop from big win to small and now im curious as to what it will do today

>> No.20435956

>>20435906
Nice, I've just got into options myself because it was simpler to hold the underlying, but two days ago I bought a few 8/21 $15 puts. How long do I wait to sell these generally, I'm guessing they're more swing-y and i should cash out ASAP?

>> No.20435957

BAKING

>> No.20435963

>>20435927
I live in Venezuela nobody here is rich

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WHAT WAS THAT

>> No.20436009

>>20435942
oh nice! I don't have any yet.

>>20435927
>socialism for the rich system
W-we just did that wealth transfer to the ultra-wealthy for a laugh!
As soon as their funds settle, they're going to transfer it right back to us! PLUS interest!! And they're going to create lots of jobs!!!

>> No.20436021

NEW

>>20436013
>>20436013
>>20436013
>>20436013

>> No.20436025

>>20435924
Thanks for advice, anon. Reit is the most important asset of all

>> No.20436036

>>20435952
ahh i see well anon regardless i think if you bag hold NIO it won't be an issue.

I intend to hold it for a very long time.

>> No.20436056

>>20435963
Well, congratulations. We are both living in shitholes. So, again why you are not making any money of wealthy capitalists?

>> No.20436298

>>20435713
COVID testing is gambling at this point. It has become overly political. Also, testing is pretty much moot, because everyone has it anyway, and this will be common knowledge soon. This is already the second wave, so people have elevated immunity in a collective sense compared to January. I wouldn't touch COVID stuff now.
Now, GALT, on the other hand...