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Mayby i'm terribly out of place here but this is actually a bad thing to be investing in

You're giving money to people who kill and destroy for a living

Ideally you want a company that's got a good mix of commercial/military shit and also has a lot in future tech. So probably Boeing, or General Dynamics. Maybe even Raytheon. Stay away from Lockheed Martin though, I heard shit's going down over there.

>>19798
I both fundamentally and morally agree with all the military actions we're involved in at the moment, though

>>19798
It's a doggy dog world out there, and when lives are a diamond dozen, blood money isn't something I'd worry over.

>>19849
I don't but I find this thread fascinating. Bump for interest. I might find drop a few bucks on Raytheon though because fucking lasers man.

>>19867
It's called a dog-eat-dog world you pleb.

Investing in small arms manufacturers. Good idea or bad?

>>19890
>being this new

>>19896
Might be a good idea. Next time Democrats want to ban guns or whatever sales go waaaay up.

this reminds me of a meme I saw on 9gag

>>19914
I thought of using some capital to make some tacticool ARs and selling them on gun broker along with this before election years come along.

Considering all the craziness that happens during election years the only thing I have to make is money off my cowwadooty guns.

I'll keep that in mind, anon.

>>19849

With 'we' i assume you're a hamburger. You 'morally agree' with non-defensive wars obviously aimed at gaining commodities such as oil and other strategicly important resources?

Investing in these companies is sort of a grey area but you just went full psychopath

Check out Honeywell faggots. They're like the literal definition of Military Industrial Complex and they're one of the higher rated stocks around.

Invest Raytheon. Missiles and automation are the future.

>>19896
Taser has made a fucking lot of gains over the past year.

>>19829
Nigga, Lockheed is up almost 100% from a year ago.

>>19978
after how they handled the F-35 I would be pissed if they get another contract for a loong time.

>>19968
Also Northrop Grumman because dem dronez.

>>19937
I believe that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are both justified. Saddam Hussein was a genocidal maniac looking to rebuild his stockpile of chemical weapons, and Afghanistan was governed by the Taliban, a UN Recognized Terrorist group.

>>20196
kek

>>20196
You do realize that the Taliban were trained and armed by the US?

The US doesn't want to do the same mistake with Syria.

>>20224
>Arm and train them to fight against their soviet oppressors
>This is how they repay us

>>20224
Yeah, it's terrible that we did that. I'm glad they helped they helped us kick the Soviets out, but arming them was incredibly short sighted and the wrong thing to do. I don't support the funding of terrorist groups, which is why I don't support what we're doing with Syria, arming terrorist rebel groups.
>>20243
Yeah, and also, considering that we were the ones that armed them, wouldn't it be our responsibility to remove them from power?

>>20196

I'm feel trolled yet i'll bite

I do not know what defines your definition of genocidal maniac but perhaps you need to take a good, hard look at America yourself

>largest prison population in the world
>including your crown jewel, Guantanamo Bay
>largest collection of weapons in the world
>including your nuclear weapons, remember, America is the only country in the world to have actually used Nuclear weapons in battle
>literally not in peace since the second World War
>you guys simply cannot stop invading countries
>literally spying on everyone in the world
>largest income inequality since the 1920s
>Free Press Index rates you under Romania and barely above Haiti
>Corporate America shows 0 respect for the ecology of your own country, nor the rest of the world


No America, you are the terrorists

>>20224
You mean the Mujaheddeen. The taliban is just one small offshoot of the Mujahedeen.
>>20196
Really faggot?

>>20308
>being this mad.

Tell me your country so I can talk shit about it.

>>20308
We've done some pretty fucked up shit, I agree, but there's a difference between doing fucked up shit and literally gassing civilians with the goal of wiping out their race. Although a few things wrong about your points:
>Russia has the largest nuclear stockpile
>War /=/ battle, and were they not used millions would have died
>I understand if you disagree, but I think that our invasions have all been justified, although the stuff we did in Central and South America was unforgivable and unjust
>We were at peace several times between 1945 and now
>Several countries have a larger income inequality
There are much worse places than America, friend.
And people disagreeing with you aren't trolls, your opinion isn't the only valid one.
>>20337
Really to what part of my statement?

>>19761
Buy when the cannons boom, sell when the doves fly.

Doves are flying, Afghanistan is almost over, and the new wars are all carried out by special forces under cover of night. Drop back until you see Chinese carriers off the coast of hawaii or Perth

>>19761
>giving money to jews through investing

its like you want to spend everything on israel

>>20356
>Tell me your country so I can talk shit about it.

>Dutch

But don't worry

>actively helped the Germans eradicate Jews in WW2
>largest trader of weapons in the world due to our gigantic port of Rotterdam
>the same port provides all of Europe with harddrugs
>we took that slavery shit next level with our East Indian Company
>still USAs pet, wherever the USA wages war we follow

yet i dont go babbling on how our wars are justified
i didnt mean to attack the USA, i love what it stands for and one day hope to live and retire in the USA
But seriously though please revolt

>>20419
Hey, I totally understand why you think the wars aren't justified, and you raised some good points
However, I still support the military action we're involved in now, and I also agree with most of the military actions we've involved ourselves with in the past.
Also its funny that you want to retire and live in the U.S and are Dutch, my Grandparents are Dutch and when I retire I'm going to live on their estate in the Netherlands

>>20424
>Not being part of the winning side

Yeah. America is going to go through an interwar period. The military is making large personnel cuts and the contracts should be going down. There are still going to be lot's of R&D, which is why you should spend on high tech defense firms.

>>20424

please do not turn this board into /pol/
so far im really enjoying the discussions on /biz/

Wars make money, niggas. It's pretty obvious.

>>20371
>>20419
Children we aren't here to judge the morality of things. Just how to make money out of it.

>>19867

>snoopdogg.jpg

>>19955

Wish I would have bought in the 70s

Bounced off its 200dma at 12:30 today. Recently trading at an all time high. Worth keeping an eye on this stock and seeing how it tests new support and resistance levels. Normally I wouldn't buy at these levels, but this is something to look at because its only trending up.

10/10, would analyze again

>>19978

>up 100%
>doesn't see a correction soon

top kek

>>20485
its truth

Not exactly related to defense contractors, but on the subject of government cashflows, IBM has been providing major computer infrastructure to governments around the world, and even as their share of the commercial CPU market dwindles, they will have solid cashflows for decades thanks to their support and maintenance contracts for the equipment they sell to governments and militaries.

>>20995
Seems like a smart deal.
>>20739
Seriously. They got the largest contract of all time with the JSF and they messed it up.

>>19991

The F-35 is not really their fault I don't think anyone thought through the whole international acquisition cooperation thing.

Now, the F-22... THAT is their fault. Flight computer crashing from flying over the dateline? Oxygen system that doesn't work? A COMPUTERIZED LATCH that trapped a pilot inside and to cut him out cost the taxpayer over $100 million dollars to get the F-22 fully restored?

Wow this thread disgusts me.