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thinking of doubling or tripling my stack of rice, sugar and salt. got about 80 lbs of rice and maybe 20 lbs of salt and 20 lbs of sugar
thoughts?

>>20380029
if its ever in question just double it and keep it stored in a good spot

>>20380029
Is it you only or are you feeding a family?

>>20379655
$20 soon

>>20380029
Based. Remember to store it well. Also get some beans or deenz for protein.

So im all in GOLD since mid june. Have made a good 7% but i want to risk more.
>Do I put my money into a gold or silver miner?
>Is palladium still a thing?
>Keep it in GOLD and just ride out the rise?

>>20380029
Remember to vacuum seal it and add desiccants into the sealed bag for maximum shelf life.

>>20380527
GLD is the ticker not GOLD my bad.

Anybody else think premiums are going to stay pretty much where they are now if silver spot dips to $15 during the next boomer stock crash?

>>20380590
If the dip doesn't come in August, will it really come?

>>20380438
me and 4 family members i don't live with but don't stack or prep themselves, thinking i need to start ramping up my pantry game
>>20380474
got a few crates of canned beans, gonna get some sacks of black beans. i love deenz so i'm always running low, gotta stack some more
>>20380554
is this really necessary? i doubt i'm gonna end up storing food for more than ~5 years at a time, not including the food we grow and and the fish we catch on our boat and i have an air dehumidifier in the pantry

>>20380590
amazing, a post has time traveled 4 months into the future. anon if you can hear us, buy copper, it blows up.

>>20380029
considering silver is basically sold out, and what you can get, is 16-20% premium, yeah... sort out your food and necessities so you dont do something dumb like sell at 50-100$/oz

>>20380527
Buy some of the physical shit man

You’ll be glad you did

>>20380029
do you have a long term water solution?

>>20380688
Is it necessary? Of course not, but it's cheap, easy, and it means that you can be safe if things go worse than any of us expect. Why wouldn't you take that extra half step for literally years more insurance?

>>20380029
If you have good storage then do it. At the very least I would store it in canoe barrels to prevent any pests, although sealed glass storage would be ideal.

Good morning stackers, God shines his light on our good deeds.

>>20380749
not much if i have to hunker down inside but the area has many clean and delicious mountain water sources, been looking for some affordable storage option
>>20380834
>canoe barrels
nice, i should definitely pick up a couple of those. i live far enough north that we have very few pests

>>20380791
yeah you're right

>>20379655
Someone mentioned 'windfall profit tax' a few threads ago. I looked it up and it just seems like a spite tax on industries that normies don't bother with. Like, if Tesla went to 10 gorillion per share that's fine because everyone and their mother has some, but gold going to 10k/oz or oil 200/barrel? Not fair!

Is this something we realistically have to worry about?

>>20381053
The collectivists are constantly trying to redistribute the wealth of anyone and everyone to the worst elements of society. What do you think?

>>20380952
Grab a lifestraw even if it's mountain sourced, waters pretty clean up here in canuckistan, I drink from rivers all the time and never got sick, but probably just my good luck/constitution, as others have gotten sick.

Its pretty small/cheap for peace of mind.
and now for my threadly rage at all my dealers being sold the fuck out of silver, while I internally struggle and debate paying 20% premiums to aquire 60 more oz of shiney rocks.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>20381111
i think i'm getting something like this
with adaptor for faucet and water bottles

>>20380474
based and deenzpilled

>>20381053
>he plans on selling his PMs
by the time I actually cash out there won't be dollars or a financial system as we know it anyway

>Check the return tray in the beehive
>Find a Merc Dime
Nice!

>>20381111
Checked and good advice. I got a couple of Sawyer minis packed away

>>20381053
the government can go fuck itself

>>20380029
You're going to wish that you had just died in the initial nuclear exchange around month 6 of eating nothing but sweet-n-salty rice for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Anyone got Royal Mint tripple set?

>>20381675
jokes on you asshole, i live in a primary flash point

>>20380029
Buy oil like olive oil. Tons of calories and fats are necesery to digest vitamines. Olive oil can be used for cooking and eating raw with bread like a butter.

>>20380688
Get coffee/tea

>>20381675
i stack a lot of different spices and food stuffs anon, and have the means and knowledge of fishing, hunting, trapping, vacuum sealing and dehydrating

>>20381388
yeah not bad if you dont need too much mobility. For like 20-25$ though its nice to have something small and portable, even if just for camping, not having to carry the water itself makes a huge difference

>>20381836
i might just pick up both

>>20381765
That gif paired with the post made me laugh.

I'm about 40 miles from a nuclear submarine production facility so I'mma die of radiation poisoning when my booze runs out

>>20381865
stock up on wine and potassium iodide tablets s.t.a.l.k.e.r.

>>20381817
i keep olive and canola oil but not more than i can use before it goes rancid
>>20381822
absolutely, i will get more coffee/tea and vacuum seal it

Mail man came today!

>>20380688
Vacuum sealing with dessicants will more than 5x the shelf-life of dry grains/legumes.

>>20381675
honestly I feel like its only fat people who think like you do, correct me if you are not fat.

I have lived on nothing but rice/beans for many months on end and not really cared.

>>20381765
Look at Mr. Big Shot over here, bragging about it being quick and convenient.

>>20381826
Yeah, well I was taught how to make spread by some very knowledgeable ex-convicts.

>>20381987
damn, that's quite significant, i will definitely do that when i find the time

>>20381909
Blowout soon

>>20382035
This.rice and tuna is pretty dank. You are eating for Survival and honestly doesn’t taste to bad and can last for years.

>T. dude who would just eat trail mix and slim Jim’s while for 5 day patrolling ops.

>>20382209
On* damn gay phone.

>>20382209
i love tuna and rice. deenz in tomato sauce and rice is also yummy

>>20382262
That sounds pretty tasty. I have yet to take the Deenz pill but it does sound delicious.

I also stack seeds. I have a bucket as well as a bunch of sealed bulk packets, and of course copious amounts of Ammo.

any anons have experience reclaiming silver/gold/plat from electronics waste? Is it at all practical on an individual scale?

>>20382373
i don't stack seeds but my mother does. might as well pick up some since it doesn't take much space. was too late to start a kitchen garden this year

>>20382543
Most things I see with regards to reclaiming PMs from electronics require a shitload of expensive (and dangerous) chemicals. That being said, the reclamation of fine(r) silver from sterling is a simple process involving only nitric acid and pieces of copper. That will yield 98% pure silver, and can be further refined into .99999 by building a cell out of a graphite block and some silver electrolyte.

>>20380029
Anons have lots of good suggestions so far, I'd add:
honey
peanut butter
vinegar
vitamins
bullets/reloading supplies
gun cleaning/maintenance supplies
solar panels/controllers/batteries
1st aid, medications (for you/famalam/barter)
rubbing alcohol
hydrogen peroxide
bleach
iodine
hand sanitizer
n95-n100 masks
nitrile gloves
tampons/pads
fire starters
mason jars/lids
flashlights
crank radio/ham radio
tools that would be too difficult to make yourself
coffee filters
baking soda/powder
yeast
seeds
aquaponics
chickens
toothpaste
floss
zipties
toilet paper
paracord
headlamp
extension cords
duct tape
tarps
compass
binoculars
tent(s)
sleeping bags
gasoline
motor oil
books

>>20381570
mercury dimes are my most coveted coin, i wish we could go back to them, limited print run, whatever.

Don't forget the all important Fuel siphon pump men

>>20381817
>>20381918
also coconut oil

>>20382637
thanks man

>>20382637
Dude. Just add more of what you usually use.
Make a list of what you normally consume, then buy an extra and use it.
Expand your pantry and use everything. Nothing expires, nothing never gets eaten (spam, freeze dried shit) that you don't want to eat.

>>20382896
that's my strategy, i think it has also made me a better cook and made me consoom less because i don't go grocery shopping for one thing and return with three bags

>>20380527
At the very least move it into AAAU if you don't have to worry about taxes. IDK if you can pass it off as a like-kind exchange. It has a lower expense ratio and you can redeem your shares for fresh gold from the Perth Mint which is Australia's state mint

>>20381927
SD Bullion random 10oz bar?

>>20380862
>putting a 80 year old circulated coin in a capsule

Provident has 10 oz Brittania bars back in stock, in case anyone was looking for one.

>>20382991
Rock on, cooking is key. I cringe when I see people buying the emergency meals and storing them for a decade. It's a waste of money, space, and a glaring red flag you don't know what you're doing.
>I'm scared! I have to buy something!
Probably the same people who hoarded toilet paper.

>>20382896
Of course, for the consumables I listed (honey, peanut butter, bandaids, etc).
On the other hand, I don't usually use a crank radio, a 1st aid kit, or iodine, but if you need it and there aren't any available to buy...
plus barter items are useful.

>>20383248
Quit posting those Silver Shield pics - I'm gonna give them all my money lol.
I suppose. Your list comes off more like a camping list to me, which may or may not fit people's lifestyles and goals,
Just be sure to use it and not set it aside for 'one day', ya know? I've been in that boat and it feels stupid.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-guide-to-foreign-silver-coins.207779/

i stopped stacking 1 oz of silver costs 34$ here in Switzerland. I am stuck with just 1k ounces i don't know if i will make it i got like 30 oz of gold too.

>>20383129
>>20382896
Somewhat agreed. I have a lot of rice, oats, peanut butter, cat food and water saved, but I normally use these things anyway, so if nothing happens, it’s not a loss for me. Of course arms and PMs.

I also recommend non-lethal protection like pepper spray. It’s cheap, easy to get, and effective against unarmed or lightly armed people.

>>20383484
you've made it by being born in Switzerland, with 1k oz you're set for afterlife

When did PO boxes get so expensive??
I'll have to drop $4K in PM to break even from the sales tax cost.

>>20383587
Pro-tip, just get the smallest box. If you get a package that doesn't fit, they'll just put it in a larger locker and give you a key to that locker with a note.

>>20383401
lol yeah I like a lot of the Silver Shield stuff too. Kinda pricey, but I feel it's like donating to the cause. Dude puts out some good information/ideas.

As far as the list--
Everyone's prep is going to be different, there's no one-size-fits-all prep. Anon seemed like he was prepping for a bit more than the stores being out of tiolet paper, so I tried to do a medium-sized prep list. Food and goods supply chains collapsed, no municipal anything. Not enough to repopulate the earth and rebuild civilization, but enough to take care of him and his famalam until his crops and aquaponics and chickens will do the job. I didn't put hazmat suits or gas masks or horses. although for some, those things WOULD be on the list. Up until this year, I didn't put a lot of thought into the difference between a dust mask and an n95 and an n100.
(even if y'all think covid is a nothingburger, there could easily be a more serious pandemic.)
I know what you mean though, 10 yrs of freeze-dried food is unrealistic. Many preppers don't fully think things through. People who don't rotate being a prime example. Feeding your famalam with crops, chickens, and aquaponics is a good skill to have though, IMO. The list of things that could disrupt our "great sleep" is long, and most are unprepared for anything more than a week or two without JIT deliveries.

I think everyone has their graphic equalizer set differently, and that's OK. If everyone thought about what they want to prep for, and set up bug-out bags, rotating pantries/supply stocks etc, our famalams/networks/communities would be stronger. More prep means less store runs and possibly less people dying fighting robbing etc.
Even if SHTF never happens in our lifetimes, I believe the skills should be passed on to the next generations. We don't want to degenerate into a society of helpless manchildren who can't survive without amazon prime and uber eats.

>>20383514
Less-lethal protection is only an option if you don't have access to lethal protection. Less-lethal weapons were made exclusively so that police don't look as bad when they're breaking up riots, and they're not meant for self-defense unless you absolutely cannot afford to use a firearm.

You only got one life, and if some motherfucker is willing to threaten yours you should respond with overwhelming force to ensure that threat is never realized.

Except bear mace. That works way better for bears than bullets.

>>20381253
so I just saved this when anons posted it, but looking at it I don't think it's 100% accurate. Specifically I'm reading about Austrian schillings rn, some were 64%, some were 83.5%.
I'll research and try to update. Any anons with info/sources, help would be greatly appreciated.

>>20381927
Nice I got one of those bars as well and 2 Brittanias.
>>20383003
They're Eagle Cast bars I believe the company was called CNT

>>20379655
>>20381570
Wow, woah, woah

>>20385692
are you the guy that bought like a grand worth of reprint merc dimes at a ridiculous loss?

>>20385256
What is that coin and where can I buy one? I don't even want to stack it I just want one to collect

>>20385724

>>20385724
I don’t see it as a loss. I like pure, fractional silver. And yeah, the sloppy job GSM did is unbelievable.

>>20385782
theres one on ebay for 2600 dollars

>>20385872

>>20385908
enhance

>>20385872
>>20385908

>>20385941
thats not an error, thats a weight shaving scar im willing to guess

>>20385964
They all weigh 0.111
Maybe GSM fucked up and had to shave them. But there’s no excuse for the shitty strike quality, either. Can’t get ahold of my VIP agent at APMEX. Doesn’t answer phone, doesn’t call back after leaving messages, doesn’t answer email. I’m going over his fucking head. Cocksucker.

>>20386047
Do it anon. Then just buy real mercs

is it a bad idea to store my dry foods in brand spanking new 55 gal drums with rubber gaskets? i'll be adding dessicants
i assume from earlier in the thread /pmg/ have some prepping experience and could tell me how this can go wrong

>19.38
Fuck hit 19.40 already goddammit

>>20385782
That is an 1880 Austria 2 Florin, from the reign of Emperor Franz Joseph I (1848–1916). Struck to commemorate the First Federal Shooting Festival on the occasion of the Austrian Confederation in Vienna, 1880.
Obv: Crowned Double Eagle in Coat of Arms.
Rev. Standing city goddess, Vindobona, with flag and coat of arms next to the sitting Austria.
Vienna mint, 36mm, I believe it's 90% so about 0.7144oz of silver. Obviously numismatic value would greatly overtake the silver weight value.
>>20385897 is right, the only one for sale I could find is--
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUSTRIA-Franz-Joseph-I-1880-AR-2-Florin-PCGS-MS66-Hauser-5101-Dav-32-Thun-465/174200937387

One of the most beautiful coins I've ever seen.
However with a buy-it-now price of $2,678.00, it's just a wee bit more than I can justify.

henlo frens
which gold coin should i buy next week?

>link mooning
>index funds mooning

Pulled some profits and bought another 1/2 oz gold and 10oz silver
Feeling so comfy /pmg/ bros

>>20386384
>>20386047
I will be bartering with real mercs anyways

>>20384546
I think it was made with the 64% schillings in mind.

>>20386469

Drums might hold more than you could use before spoilage, depending.

I think the normal prepper way is ~25 lb buckets with sealed mylar bags and O2 absorbers. A little easier to handle.

where's the best place in the states to live in this clown world? thinking south dakoda. everywhere else is being invaded by californians. in ohio now and have family here. thinking rural ohio but really want to be even more remote, lots of cities in ohio....

>>20387254
the state with the least amount of niggers, montana maybe?

>>20386384
>>20386808
>90% Silver
Why

>>20385897
>>20386609
Damn, nevermind then, I gotta agree though, that might be on my holy grail list, maybe after we all make it on the /pmg/ yatcht party in a few years I'll be able to afford it

>>20387345
montana is based but californians are invading but not too bad.

>>20387350
Cheapest way to get fractional silver, generally less premium per ounce, can be found in change (rarely), your holding a piece of history, could go on and on

>>20387208
yeah you're right, that was my concern. thanks

>>20387350
Pure silver is too soft for circulation.

>>20387350
Low premium 1/14 ozt silver. Most people don't bother to fake mercs

If I'm bartering my bullets I'll only accept mercs

>>20386685
2020 COVID Era Gold 2oz Gold Round $3,858.87 (pic related)
Hand Poured, Hand Stamped
Limited Mintage: 250 Pieces
https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/covid-era-gold-2-oz-9999-gold-round/

2017 Chad Deathstalker Scorpion $1,937.23
Limited Mintage: 10,000
https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/2017-republic-of-chad-deathstalker-scorpion-1-oz-gold-coin/

1915 100 Corona Austrian Gold Coin (Restrike) $1,819.15
Contains .9802 Troy oz of Au
https://www.jmbullion.com/1915-100-corona-austrian-gold-coin-au-restrike/

>19.40
NOWHERE TO GO BUT UP

>>20387350
why not? "junk" silver is probably the best fractional you can get.

>>20387593
I already have a tube of 100 Corona Austrian coins

>>20387254

Somewhere red and remote. Alaska if you can deal with cold and darkness. SD not bad, Utah or Idaho too.

Personally I am breaking with that and looking at very remote properties in Oregon in hopes that I will not end up a kulak. The weather and country side is just too nice.

>>20387773
post pic anon...

Is anyone here from New Mexico, I have question about taxes there.

I’m from Cali and our laws for buying bullion is 7% sales tax unless you buy +$1500, then it isn’t taxed. NM has a weird tax system that works different, though. Is there any way I can Jew my way out of paying taxes on shit?

>>20387593
Why can't gold be down in three figures again? That 2oz round is sexy

>>20388169
but i did, those are mine

>>20387350
Name a lower premium way to get fractional silver

I want one so bad bros

Schiff episode of JRE is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK2zgeJLVwU

>>20382656
>silver stacker AND bee keeper

Bees are based, thanks for making our crops grow. Your going to make it anon

>>20381253
>>20384546
OK, I think I fixed it. I took out the Dutch gulders because they were different purities to units, so there wasn't a set amount of gulders-to-ozs. Sorry Dutchbros.
The Philippine stuff was a pain in the ass, I sure hope some anon somewhere is stacking pinoy silver.
If any anons find that this is wrong, please correct. Thanks frens.

>>20387091
ty fren.

I got this just recently from a frend trying to offload some gold. I paid spot for is gold content. What the fuck is it actually worth?

Apparently it’s a “2000 Birth of Christ 500 Schilling” from Austria

>>20388407
Who makes that, US mint?

>>20379655
just found this absolute unit at the lcs
and someone else needs to update the pastebin yo. i feel my work is done for the moment so imma just keep lurkin

>>20388945
How much?

>>20388431
After reading those comments I dont feel sorry at all for these normies.

>>20385843
Lmao, based

>>20388789
yeh very limited run of a palladium coin

>>20388749
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces58103.html
>.986 Au
>Bullion value: $581.58
>Numista Rarity index: 92/100

Two on ebay, for $693.99 and $733.99 respectively

>>20388431
GOD CAST

>>20388968
Less than 2 over spot so i was stoked. They also had a slabbed 2011 Pt eagle and a ms70 buffalo for more than i cared for

>>20382637
Good post. Something I always encourage people with property to do is have a pond dug and stocked with fish. You have an available food source for the end of days and a fishing/swimming hole for yourself and family.

>>20388431
Too bad he couldn't make it to the studio, he waffles on even more when he does videocalls.

how much should i pay per peace dollar in yurope?

>>20389243
>>20388431
5 min in, this podcast stinks. Trump won cause duh economy, muh capitalism, etc. I guess it is to be expected from an economist though

>>20389066
Yep, more silver for us. There's only a few seats on the train out of the station anyhow.

>>20388576
I have about an ounce of Philippines silver.

>>20389543
He is speaking to normies, anon. They can't think past their black bull banging their wife while they play nintendo switch

>>20389235
Thank frend

>>20389652
Goddamn I love owning NTDOY
maybe I should buy more?

>>20389652

Cryptofag here, conspiracy theories got me looking into PMs. Just got my first stack of 2020 silver dollars delivered today and holy shit these things are so satisfying to hold in my hands.

Any reputable ebay sellers to spend my good boy points on?

>>20388343
I dont see 100 of them there tho

>>20388945
I feel like we should drop some info from OP into pastebin and include euro dealers instead, lots of eurobros lately asking

>>20388431
I love this episode, it's just the Peter Schiff podcast but longer

We are gonna hit 20 and dip, right guys?

Spot isnt $11 like it was few months back so why are premiums even worse instead of going back to normal? Mines and mints have been reopened for a while now and most places are not locked down anymore

>>20389853
short answer, because the market is manipulated, and right now there are severe shortages due to large demand and little supply.

Things shut down really fast, they re open really slow.

I cannto buy silver unless I want to pay 20% over spot in canada, its better in the us, but here many LCS are sold the fuck out of silver

>>20389844
Thats what I hope. I have shit to buy and if it drops even 50 cents I save like $40 which is almost 2 extra ounces of silver.

>>20389836
>Hold on please, hold on please, Peter, Peter, Peter, Hold on please, Jesus Christ, Peter... hold on
Jews sure love talking.

I've made 50% in about two years invested, I'm 19 and if silver hits $40 I'll be well on my way to retiring before 30. Meanwhile here's the "V shaped recovery" bullkeks are piling into.

>>20389066
i'm slowly starting to feel this way as well.
not to mention the resentment that normies predictably will have for us evil, greedy hoarders

>>20389771
oh i am sorry, i didnt knew you were special
everything is gonna be okay

>>20390008
silver may hit 40USD, however everything else will be double the price aswell, so forget about retirement.

>>20389987

I can take like 15 mins of Schiff at a time. Can't imagine 3 hours lol.

Rickards could be an interesting guest in the same vein. He's a much better talker, although with him its always about pimping his latest book or newsletter which gets grating.

Does anyone have a picture of what a secondary market scottsdale silver bar looks like? They are selling 10 oz stackers secondary cheaper than their new bars.

I dont mind saving $5 but not if the bar looks like shit. How does scottsdale get secondary market of their own bars anyway?

>>20389749
https://www.ebay.com/str/scottsdalesilver

>>20389581
Ayyy, so it wasn't for nothing. Nice coins, where'd you find 'em?

>>20389665
yw fren

>>20390241
I'm interested in seeing how they look too, I was considering their secondary.
Many sellers also buy, and I'd feel way more comfortable buying Scottsdale secondary from Scottsdale than any other secondary from any other source.

>>20390140
>everything else will be double the price aswell
You mean because of inflation? Then I'll just wait for silver or some other real money to replace fiat and buy low then. Besides that would only pump silver harder.

>>20390263
Yea, I found them and Silvertowne on there, but everything is pricey to compensate for ebay and processing.
I may bite on the 5oz stacker, but it's still $25/oz

>>20389292
ty, and I agree. Koi in particular are extremely hardy, they can survive greater temperature variations than many other fish and can survive on a wide variety of food sources. I recommend duckweed, it grows on the surface, cleans the water, and is higher in protein than s o y. Humans can eat it too if need be.
Also, indoor aquaponics. Your fish fertilize the plants and the plants feed the fish. Closed-loop systems protect against pollutants/contaminants.

>>20390445
If you set bid limits and watch patiently, it is often possible to get stuff cheaper than it is to buy direct from their website. They move a decent amount of volume, so there are always plenty of auctions to take a stab at.
Scottsdale is kinda pricy in general, but they are a reputable mint with quality product. Most items are "proof-like".
I think they blur the line between gov't mint and private, they do a lot of official currency under contract to foreign gov'ts. Also many items are limited mintage, and the value does seem to increase.
Be patient, I think it would be possible to pick up Scottsdale stuff for less than $23/oz.
Good luck, anon!
...and if you win something, post pics please.

>>20390436
yep inflation will rape us hard in the next years

>>20390763
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-5oz-Silver-STACKER-ROUNDS-by-Scottsdale-Mint-25oz-999-Silver-A319/363048293833

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-2oz-Silver-STACKER-ROUNDS-by-Scottsdale-Mint-20-oz-999-Silver-A330/363048326179

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-5oz-Silver-STACKER-ROUNDS-by-Scottsdale-Mint-25oz-999-Silver-A319/313147670287

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-x-2020-1-oz-RESERVE-999-Silver-Rounds-BU-Tube-20oz-Scottsdale-Mint-A357/143657252701

ending between 20minutes-3hrs

>>20390376
Asked for foreign junk silver at LCS, bought them for slightly over spot.

Futures are about to be at $20 by Friday. this is gonna push a ton of boomers into coin stores to sell. Can't wait to mop that shit up

>>20390241
I don't know if this is considered secondary market but got it last week from Scottsdale.

>>20380029
Honestly think silver and gold are a better investment then prepper supplies for now
Coronavirus will imo most likely cause great depression and hyperinflation not society to collapse completely
Though hospitals in your area could easily become overwhelmed and riots and looting are likely so imo you should prioritize guns, ammo, medical supplies and then once you have enough of that just buy as much silver and gold as you can

>>20391388
cool, bargain price for nice-looking historical coins.
I'd consider that a good addition to the stack.

Does anyone have any experience with Monumental Metals? I'm about to order 273 oz from them using a bank transfer

>>20392188
they are legit anon, although holy fuck thats alotta nuts, you want fries with that?

>>20392432
Supersize me, babydoll. We in it to win it.

>>20392432
That'll be 4 bucks, baby!

>>20392532
>>20392503
i love that people get that reference still, none of my friends have ever seen it

>>20380527
Physical - all silver
Stocks - Gold miners

>>20392583
It may not be good, but Kung Pow is damn funny.

>>20392503
>We in it to win it
I literally said this to myself right before I finished my 1k this morning. I'll post pics when I get around to digging up my unnaground stash.

>>20390376
These are sexy. Just impulse bought 2 of em

What should I get with $110 in Amazon points?

Is buying silver on a credit card wise? I have 0% interest lel

>>20393171
It's no more or less wise than buying anything with a credit card, except that you'll be paying more per ounce.

whelp... couldnt find any rounds or generics with less then 20% markup... but found this for 30$ cad an oz, its 10 oz of poured silver, so I can feel a little better about the premium due to the art factor.

Just got my delivery of Krugerrands, they really tingle my magpie brain

>>20393171
If you have the financial means to pay it off and you're willing to pay a higher premium and interest on your debt, then go for it. If you're depending on your projected gains from buying it to pay it off: not so wise.

HE JUST LEFT
WITH NUTS

>>20393223
>>20393327
Thanks for the honesty. Yeah, I'll have 0% until next March. I got approved before all this corona crap then /pmg/ woke me up.
Got a $2,000 line. Gonna go balls deeps cuz fuck it.

>>20381111
> I drink from rivers all the time and never got sick, but probably just my good luck/constitution, as others have gotten sick.
With or without the lifestraw?
There's no reason you would ever get sick by using the life straw properly
Though the Sawyer squeeze is much better and more advanced filters
But even the lifestraw should prevent you from getting sick from fresh water in North America

... unless you mean you're just drinking straight from a river without any filters or boiling
In which case you're an idiot and probably have numerous types of intestinal parasites

>>20393336

>>20393499
upvoted

>>20393435
why wouldnt you pay with cheque/EMT or cash and save 4%?

>>20393467
without it, literally just dipped muh water bottle in or drank like a wild animal straight from the river.

Lifestraw will make really bad water drinkable.

>>20393435
That's not what the reply means. All of the bullion dealers I have seen charge you more if you use a credit card versus paying in cash (physical cash, personal check, ACH transfer, or wire transfer). The credit card companies charge merchants 2% or 3% of the total price of the transaction as a fee. The bullion dealers are not going eat that cost.

>>20393435
I've been stacking for nearly a decade and I've never previously thought it was time to buy metals with debt but right now I do. The train is leaving the station, the banking system could literally be collapsing by the end of the year. The only thing that will matter is the number of ounces in your hand when it happens

>>20393467
>probably have numerous types of intestinal parasites

You say that like it is a bad thing.... im pretty sure its just natural pro biotics at this point. I regularly have people think im almost 20 years younger then I really am, so i must be doing something right.

Also I swallows a 1/10 pure silver round and im pretty sure it will keep me set.

>>20381716
Mexico doesn’t make liberties in platinum you retard

>>20393467
>unless you mean you're just drinking straight from a river without any filters or boiling

Not that guy but I have also drank unfiltered water plenty of times in Canada. As a general rule I won't drink anything that comes from a stagnant source like a lake, but in the mountains there is shitloads of streams almost all year round that are strictly from snow/glacier melt that I will drink from without any real concern.

I have also actually been tested for parasites after I got sick in Asia, and I didn't have any, so this is probably a pretty safe strategy at least in Canada.

>>20393670
Please stop doing this anon
Lifestraw is designed to drink from freshwater, preferably flowing freshwater like rivers or lakes
Not so you can drink from a stagnant pool of green water covered in algae
Though you can do both it's designed for the former

>>20393670
I usually pay cash at my LCS and many refuse credit. I mostly pay for the convenience and timely delivery desu. Also I'll just make one large purchase and slowly pay it off (minimum only lol) and wait for the other shoe to drop and have my debts wiped by the (((banks))).

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/09/chase-bank-cancels-all-credit-card-debt-for-canadian-customers

>>20393756
Worms in your large intestines do not help you in any way

I have 470 OZ, 2000 shares of SILJ, and 250 shares of First Majestic Silver (AG). Is this enough to make it? I could probably throw another 1K into everything.....

>>20393809
It's risky and really not recommended in a survival situation
You're probably okay in Canada 50% of the time
But drinking up some sort of amoeba or bacteria is a death sentence if there aren't hospitals to go to and a really bad idea even when there are hospitals
Boil your water.

>>20393851
its a joke mate.

Clean fast running water wont hurt you generally either, there would be some sort of symptoms by now.

>>20393974
it is NOT 50/50...

clean fast running water, is almost always fine, everyone I know who got sick tried green slow moving water. This idea that it is a death sentence is over blown.

Use a filter though, its easy and save.

I'm holding on to 15k in cash in a savings account. Should I really turn it all into metal?

>>20393834
Might be a good play, odds are it will fuck you in the end, but its your life, let me know how it works out I guess.

>>20394148
Whatever you would need for a legit emergency keep in cash. Everything else, yes

>>20394243
That's kind of what I was thinking... I'll hold onto 7k as a rainy day fund and turn the rest into silver.

I got accused of samefagging as Pan Man. I've never felt more honoured in my life.

We do live in the same province though.

https://youtu.be/R26riUrbNvY China run on the banks

>>20394148
With what interest rates are now, the metal is pretty much guaranteed to outperform your savings account. Put about $11k into bullion, save the rest as emergency cash.

>>20395122
See
>>20394591
Although 4k is not a bad idea... maybe I'll split the difference and cap it at a nice 5k. Thanks for the advice!

>>20394733
The honor is all mine, its good to meet someone as in the know as myself. Also to the guy who was asking about BGM last night, I went and had a great conversation with the current managing staff at the head office. Looks like the new corporate heads basically fired everyone and started from scratch. Hopefully the project can get underway properly this time.

>>20393809
You still have to be pretty careful here drinking from creeks. I ve never been ill from it but I know a geo who drank from the same creek water I did and nearly died from beaver fever. If I am not sure about a body of water I just boil it than cool the pot in a puddle for a while. Iodine tablets help too but i rarely use them.

how hard is it to purchase using a money wire to buy bullion? also is debit considered cash? im tired of getting raped on premiums for using paypal (i buy maybe 10-20oz at a time though)

>>20395477
You use echeck. Wire payments are usually charged extra and you'll have to pay to do it at your bank

>>20380029

in america
first you get the sugar
then you get the power
then you get the women

so i'd say pump your sugar numbers

>>20395529
looking at videos on how to dry can stuff as a low cost alternative right now

>>20395443
Sure, but that doesn't mean there aren't prudent ways to do it. The further you are from the source, the more likely the water is to be contaminated, and ironically if you're looking at a creek that is more than ankle deep it is almost certainly lake-runoff, which also has significantly higher risk than a small stream that is pure melt.

If I am at camp or something I will filter or treat my water, but I have been drinking from small clear creeks at high altitude for about 20 years and have never had problems. If I don't know the area I will climb up to the source to make sure that it doesn't come from a lake/pool.

>>20395237
That was me actually.

Thanks for doing the groundwork, I'm thrilled, and I'm doubling down on my Osisko Royalties position soon. They pay the best dividend in the royalty sector, have been HUGEly punished for their BGM purchase, under-performing all their competitors in the recent year; and it's the 8th biggest position in Peter Schiff and Adrian Day's fund. This stock looks like pure value to me.

>>20395512
sorry im stupid but ive never used echeck. does this require me to link a bank acount through their site?

>>20393231
Very cool, anon. I'm glad it was cheaper.

>>20395718
I totally agree with you, 99% of the time the streams i am drinking from are ice cold melt water from a mountain side or super fast rain run off. contamination is likely minimal, however I dont take chances, especially when I am all alone working. I dont want to end up shitting myself to death under a pine tree.

>>20395728
The guys are BGMs office all seem to be a mix of locals and old school mine operator types. The guys on site all look professional, no bullshit like I saw during my tenure there. I am thrilled, hopefully they can figure out all the details and actually get really mining under Cow and Island mountain in the next few years.

>>20395443
yeah creeks are iff, large rivers are usually better.

I wouldnt always have time to boil, so the lifestraw filter worked really well, have a water bottle with a filter built in too, works amazing even on nasty standing water. only good for 5000L or so but still.

Where should I ride out the next 4-7 years, Texas or Colorado?

How retarded would it be to add to my gold stack instead of silver rn?

A little over 200 oz of silver to ~0.7 oz of gold.

>>20395794
same data that's on the check you enter into the website

>>20381053
It might be about time to get back into sailing

>>20395991
you would be better off going to columbia fren

>>20380442
Basedboy

>>20395903
That's just music to my ears, the exact kind of guys you want running a difficult project. Just check out how hard they've been punished in the Royalty and Streaming sector. This screams value to me.

>>20395991
Wyoming or Idaho

>>20388431
Kek joe couldn’t even get a word in, schiff spazzed out couldnt stop dropping redpills

>>20396146
the only I might worry about is the reputation damage that was done by all the bullshit that was happening there. How long will it take for investors to really trust the project again? I really want this project to get somewhere, the town of Wells and the region in general could use the jobs.

Way to go, DCA. Just got finished totaling my stack, got the whole 1k for 22.27/oz.
Not fucking bad for only buying local physical.

>>20391824
You are right we are not going to have a societal collapse, but you would be a fool to not also prep food. If March has shown us anything its how fragile our just in time delivery system is.

>>20396235
I’m not white enough for Wyoming or Idaho.

t. jew

b-bros...?

>>20396454
You're white enough for upstate NY.

>>20396472
WELP

>>20396454
Just don't be subversive and you're white enough for anywhere outside of Russia.

>>20396472
Is this good or bad for us?

>>20396103
Wot u say to me boy

>>20396892
why did they design these bars with a serial number space

>>20396863
Good for silver, bad for people all over the world.

>>20396938
Cuz it’s fake

>>20396472
Fuck.

>>20396472
well thats not good.

Is it though?

>>20396472

If PMs are really going to blow up I don't doubt it will be asia where it starts.

Only question is if they'll try to clamp down or let it be. China is racing to get as much as possible, so comex might not have their permission to die yet.

>>20396472
Imagine one billion chinks pulling all their paper out of the banking system and they all beg me to sell them a single ounce, they offer their life savings, a defective escalator and their teenage daughters yellow pussy and I look down on them and whisper "no"

>>20397264
What if there's a rush to liquidate their PMs because there's no other way they can get cash?

>>20397313
Sounds edgy and gay but this is 4chan so...

No moon mission bullshit - I just sold $10K of company stock because I'm out of this cartoon economy. Earnings are in a week or two and I picture a bloodbath.
The $10K was intended on college or a new car. I suspect if I didn't close my position, I would have lost $1K+
Kids aren't going to college for 16 years(if that's still a thing) and we can get by without a new car indefinitely since we both wfh.
WWYD? I have around 110oz silver. Zero debt. $15k cash (excluding this) and nearing a household $400K net worth including retirement.

Anyone ever worry that they've made it on some USPS driver's short list for future burglaries on account of having 30 pounds of metal delivered to your house over the past half a year? The boxes are discreet but at this point I don't think anyone could credibly believe I'm just buying lead fishing weights.

>>20397506
Shit - pic related.
Reckon cash isn't best, but is safe right now. Thinking of getting +/- 300oz of silver.
and I'm the typo prone retard. I have +/- 15oz
silver right now
> 110oz

>>20393912
You have 3x as much in miners as you have in metal? I'd flip the ratio personally. Miners are cool but even if you are sure about a silver bull run, investing in junior miners is like the metals equivalent of buying shitcoin ICOs. Being 75% in miners would be way too much risk for my tastes.

>>20397323
wasnt that just happening in some south asian country? I saw two different reports saying people were trying to liquidate PMs for basic cash because no one could work or something to that manner.

>>20397313
Laughed

>>20397365
It's a Watchmen reference (the real one, not the abortive series)

>>20380716
I have 4K in physical gold / silver and 4K in shares . Selling the 4K in funds after inflation kicks in and I’m holding physical

>>20397635
silver miners or physical gold

>>20397537
All the postmen in my area are affirmative action hires which means their IQ is probably around room temp. Not terribly worried.

>>20390799
Nice autism. I'm too weak to stack $20k of the same coin. I need a 100 corona, a 50 peso, some sovereigns, some helvetias, an AGE, a maple... fuck my ADD magpie life.

>>20397537
I only buy local, so I don't have to worry about that lol

>>20396472
Is this because of the special trade with hong kong ending? Wasn't hong kong just a way for the chinks to launder money out side of the country to protect their wealth. With door being closed will their only option be to buy gold/silver now?

>>20379655
evenin frens
whats for dinner?
gots me a nice tasty sandwich tonite because you know them sprouts is sooo good
turkey,
cheddar
onions,
sprouts
salt
pepper
mayo
spicy dijon mustards
on whole wheat

stackin bullion
and stackin sandwichs
thats just the way it is

>>20397813
You missed the grilling last night, fren. We was eating good. Tonight was just fast food :(

I heard stability is coming and gold is going to drop to 1980 prices and sit there for a good long time. The time to cash out is now, boys.

>>20396472
i havent felt religious in a long time
and i cant say im "runnin to god because im afraid please save me"

but cant helpin thinking this is literally starting to feel like the beginning of the rapture, i mean crap this is getting ridiculous

>>20397898
I already cashed out all of your mom's futures. I think I can take a risk on PMs.

>>20396892
i think he just called you an onionboy, if you know what i mean

>>20397808
My quick google search shows that banks in China have been failing since at least November 2019, and it's not necessarily tied to the HK issue.

To me this seems to align more with September-ish 2019 being the time when the world economy actually went full retard (looking at interest rates, Fed balance sheet, etc).

>>20397857
lookin tasty.
funny cuz ive have chili dogs twice this week. good stuff

>>20397635
Buys silver anon. It’s drying up quickly

>>20397994
That's what they want you to think.

>>20397697
I'd do physical gold if it hadn't already ballooned.
Silver miners? I lost about $8K on a penny stock mining company in my early twenties and can't stomach revisiting. I'm leaning towards silver in my hand, cash, or a business venture.

>>20397951
First murmurings of COVID were starting up in Nov

>>20396892
Holy shit the toning on that bar looks like a face

>>20395237
holy fuck i think ive been there

>>20396472
POST YFW GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE BY LUNCH TIME TOMORROW

>>20398031
im not a clever man, but im placing my bets on physical PMs and Cash for now.
if i had more money I'd be going all in on Land, meaning select real estate, acreage, not buying junk houses or anything.

>>20398083
True, but I think first murmurings are too soon for bank runs. Bank runs need a little time to build up. I think this goes deeper than that.

>>20398141

>>20398141
>POST YFW GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE BY LUNCH TIME TOMORROW

Why are South African coins so much cheaper than the others right now?

>>20398141
STOP ACCELERATING I'M NOT DONE STACKING NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>20398149
>if i had more money I'd be going all in on Land
I'm 100% on this, but only after it all depreciates by 30%+

>>20398141
I’m all in PMs fuck the federal reserve

>>20398312
>only after it all depreciates by 30%+
yeah, good call. im sooo ready to buy a house roghg now but crap tbis seems like time to wait a bit, ive seen some prices being reduced in some stuff already
im not expecting a crash in house prices unless the econo.y really goes down the toilet seriously

but i am thinking demand will cool and prices will drop a bit, as potential buyers hold of or cancel buying plans n3ecause of so many uncertainies

>>20398401
omg thats such a antisemetic racist talk how dare you

>>20398435
I'm starting to feel old. Weathered college during 2008. Bought our house 7-ish years ago. Little shithole that I thought we paid too much for - a 2 bedroom ranch for $150K in the city.
Across the street, some young kid bought for double the price last year. Yea, remodeled, but smaller property and a foreclosure flip.
Every time I see him or the house, I mumble that something's fucked up. There isn't an increase in salaries or population - it's all landlords and BnB landlords trying to float shit on credit. Take a look on a realtor's map of pre-foreclosed and foreclosed properties. It's alarming. Been that way for years.
Back to that shithole of a house I bought. A personal home isn't an investment. Listen to that. Your're always paying rent. Whether it be the mortgage company or the insurance or the county tax, or the $10,000 roof above your head depreciating, or the kitchen that needs remodeling ...... you're always renting. Best stick your equity (NOT INVESTMENT) into a smaller property than a bigger one and then invest your cash into an investment that'll make $$$

>>20396955
but not for all people

OFFICIAL GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE THEME

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67ZkAd1wmI

>>20398619
Based, home ownership is way more complicated than people understand, and no matter what you're living in you're always paying some kind of rent. Sure they'll dress it up one way or another but there's money leaving the bottom line every month. Home ownership as an investment is like putting all your eggs in one expensive, taxed, and cash flow negative basket. Just know what you're getting into, truly, before buying anything. Pic related opened my eyes on what's supposed to be the hottest real estate market in thew world.

>>20398646
In the end it'll be good for us but we have to survive the turmoil first bro.

Silver went down $0.10 immediately after I ordered. The globalists are on to me

extemely new here like today. I have some newbie questions. What is a good amount of gold and silver to have that is realistic for someone not a millionaire? And what's the deal with 90% coins?

anyone actually been to a coin shop or local bullion dealer recently ? what were the premiums like compared to the big online dealers ?

>>20396249
No idea, but I trust the greed of investors will eventually find it's way. Cheap things don't stay cheap for long, and I think this stock is cheap for it's value.

>>20398781
>What is a good amount of gold and silver to have that is realistic for someone not a millionaire?
Your entire net worth.

What do you mean I can't day trade like a fucking orangutan????

How am I supposed to trust this shit ass companies for days or weeks??

>>20398811

Hmm...

>>20398619
good points. i understand some of it. even when i owned a house previously, yeah same story, endless constant costs associated with trying to hold and own a constantly depreciating asset. i started to hate it all the endless maintenance, caretaking involved.
now im renting a cheap but clean safe apt. and making good money. just saving saving saving.
kinda nice for now. i have no maintenance or upkeep bs to deal with
i think of buying loand sumilar to why i buy pms. a place to safely store wealth.
i know its not a profit making asset henerally speaking, but o dont know enough about investing in markets or other things to feel safe doing any of that yet. maybe in near future ill start though, if the world doesnt end

>>20398114
if you were you were within 100ft of a 1oz per tonne gold vein. With what came out of the rest of that quartz last night I think I ve found a mother lode.

>>20398781
you literally have days before shit pops off, fren.
There won't even be an election. Just wait until those faggots in (((Congress))) deny the goyim their bread and butter handout extension. at the end of the month.
7 million on the verge of being evicted.
Non stop currency printing
re-inflation of the most over valued market
It's unironically over.

>>20398781
We're extremely biased here, maybe correctly so, but I'd say at minimum in our current environment I'd want 20% minimum. 1 to ride the asset price inflation of central bank intervention, and 2 as a hedge for economic instability from said central bank intervention as the metals do very well in that environment to either keep their buying power, or even increase in value from people piling in. It's about what you're looking for in the end, to preserve wealth, or to hedge against shtf, or to get rich.

>>20398923
Holy shit! PANMAN found his lode! Fuck yes!!!!

>>20399007
cbc news was talking about the possibility of rent freezes here today, Global News also mentioned something the gov said about it. We have even more people on the verge of being evicted, and no one is talking about it.

I wish we all lived in a village centered around a goldmine with PAN MAN as our chieftain

>>20399101
I ll go back again tomorrow and see if i can trace the rest of the vein, this little 2 1/2 inch vein is carrying crazy gold values, hell i got about a grams worth from half a 5 gallon bucket of quartz today. I am hoping it keeps going on trend, but if it doesnt than what ever, theres still about 3 yards worth of the stuff exposed on surface. Best part, it wasnt claimed. No one but me has ever looked at this.

>>20399179
>wish we all lived in a village
>a bunch of smelly otaku 4chan neets
>living together in a smol village
what could possibly go wrong

>>20399190
That's fucking awesome, man. I hope for all our sakes that you find the rest of it!
Keep it up! We believe in you!

>>20398726
Thanks, friend. Not to sound gay, but I think we're all of the same, sane mindset here - just different walks of life. I'd have a beer with you.
>>20398904
Roger that - you hear me and I hear you. Obviously the landlord has to make a profit over his 30 year mortgage, but given your life situation, it doesn't mean you have to go full blown 'keeping up with the Jones'.
Even if/when you get the next mortgage, doesn't' mean you have to keep up with the Jones. But you're hear and already know that.

>>20399276
I want to just run back up there and get more, but its brutal on my vehicle. I wish it would stop raining so things could dry out. Only thing I can do is wait for the confirmation email on the 3 cells I staked over this spot.

>>20398141 "Am I awaited?"

I have 40oz of silver want 100 by the end of august

>>20399320
You're a fucking legend, PANMAN. Stake that thing out and pull that sweet sweet yellow shit out of the ground.

>>20399190
>>20398923
>>20399101
>>20399276
>>20399320

By popular demand, the new Pan-Man action figure coming soon

>>20399460
I feel like one of the old timers, finding something no other persons ever seen, and all those others who have tramped across this harsh wilderness missed it. But I have to look harder. I am really hoping it keeps going.

>>20399045
Mixed between gold and silver? Whats the better buy?

>>20399520
about 350

>>20399490
More like this

>>20399580
ah yes, thats better

>>20399580
i had a different version of this dude when i was little, no idea where he went but he was my hiking mascot for years. He came with a little ore cart, pick and shovel. I had my first chunk of gold ore on my window sill in the cart for years.

>>20399580
lmao.

>>20399520
Super complicated question. Gold always moves first, and has made it's first move while silver is beginning it's own first move towards 20. But you have to also believe that silver tracks gold, and if you do believe that then you'd also believe that silver moves harder than gold and so silver is more of a speculative metal. As well silver has industrial demand, and relatedly tends to make its; big move after recessions, not at the beginning or during like we are now. Pic related is silver ounces to buy one gold ounce, highlighted are recessions; it shows how cheap silver really is right now, as compared to gold. Gold itself is more of a store of value and safer play, but on it's own should still make a lot of gains nominally. If you're going to invest in the sector you have a lot of research to do

>>20399704
You couldn't write a better story.

>>20399704
That's heckin cute

>>20399704
How can one man be this based???

new >>20399805

>>20399745
wish I knew where old Pete went too, woody too. They vanished at the same time my parents lost our guiding lodge, maybe they stayed with the place.

>>20399745
Nnnnoooooo!
Not the heckin' cuterinos!

>>20398663
This guy knows whats up.. I just danced to that around my stac, thanks fren