/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20324715
fud or shill is the same, they want more of it

>>20324715
AMPL right now just seems to good to be true. i dont mean MC or price or rebase but the tech. The tech is amazing and so far - the protocol has worked out as theorized. If it truly fullfills their vision then this is the biggest tech jump since eth

>>20324715
Can’t the whales in the geyser pull out whenever? They’d only be losing the bonus multiplier on their staking AMPL, no? Or are they locked in for a fixed time?

>>20325032
This coin is not going to 1b$. Screencap this: 10b$ by september.

>>20325140
ask some of them... some days ago a whale said he lost 75eth in the geyser or something

>>20324715
based post

>>20325032
indeed, uncorrelated af

how do they calculate the rebase rate?

>>20325286
honestly as someone with a big geyser stake people complaining are just being delusional bitches. yes, it’s true that holding ampl and buying it with the initial eth I used in the geyser would have made more so far if I bought when I did and sold yesterday. It’s only true if you’re idealistically imagining that you can call every top and always get back in. the geyser has been an insanely good investment. to complain about it because sinply holding until $4 would have been better is childish. it has a different risk profile and I personally think it’s awesome. ampl mitigates some of the impermanent loss in expansion, it is better than other uniswap pools in that way. to characterize geyser whales as people who wanted to pull the rug and now are getting fucked is too broad of a characterization

>>20325589
pretty much if you want the percentage then:
(oracle price - target price * 10)%

>>20325729
thanks for the insight, makes sense

>>20325286
It's not like he "lost" 75 ETH. He still profited, but 75 ETH less. That's because he chose a different risk/reward approach.

>whales not understanding impermanent loss and providing liquidity

state of this board

how does rebase actually help me it's not free money it's just price converted to more coins >>20325560

>>20325851
>how does rebase actually help me
higher MC = more supply = more money for you

>>20326088
read >>20325560

you fucking nigger

Rank 1 - 1.0% of total supply, AMPL balance: 1142675, price: $2708139
Rank 2 - 0.5% of total supply, AMPL balance: 571337, price: $1354070
Rank 3 - 0.25% of total supply, AMPL balance: 285669, price: $677035
Rank 4 - 0.125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 142834, price: $338517
Rank 5 - 0.0625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 71417, price: $169259
Rank 6 - 0.03125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 35709, price: $84629
Rank 7 - 0.015625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 17854, price: $42315
Rank 8 - 0.0078125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 8927, price: $21157
Rank 9 - 0.00390625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 4464, price: $10579
Rank 10 - 0.001953125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 2232, price: $5289
Rank 11 - 0.0009765625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 1116, price: $2645
Rank 12 - 0.00048828125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 558, price: $1322
Rank 13 - 0.000244140625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 279, price: $661
Rank 14 - 0.0001220703125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 139, price: $331
Rank 15 - 6.103515625e-05% of total supply, AMPL balance: 70, price: $165
Rank 16 - 3.0517578125e-05% of total supply, AMPL balance: 35, price: $83
Rank 17 - 1.52587890625e-05% of total supply, AMPL balance: 17, price: $41
Rank 18 - 7.62939453125e-06% of total supply, AMPL balance: 9, price: $21
Rank 19 - 3.814697265625e-06% of total supply, AMPL balance: 4, price: $10
Rank 20 - 1.9073486328125e-06% of total supply, AMPL balance: 2, price: $5

Saying price doesnt matter is bullshit. Doesn't matter how much rebase you get if price dumps more % wise. 1 billion mcap is assuming that people will continue to buy which is moonboi delusional, this was 10 mill mcap awhile ago. Hurr durr its all about mcap and owning a percentage of supply bro (160 mcap to 120 btw). We are gonna be stuck at this mcap for awhile.

>>20326226
who cares? it's going to be worth 10 trillion one day

>>20326119
YOU FUCKING RETARD. STOP WITH THE PRICE. PAY ATTENTION TO MC. IF THE MC GO UP = YOUR MONEY GO UP. THE MARKET GOES UP THRU REBASE YOU DUMBFUCK

>>20326119
you retarded cuck you're buying a share of the marketcap. The positive rebase inflates the supply. If there's still more demand, price rises, and supply increases again.

If you buy 1% of the cap at 100M, and between price and supply this reaches 1B, you just 10x'd your investment.

>math hard

>>20326269
absolutely based

>>20326295
WOW more demand = profits. We are are in contraction phase now moonboi

>>20326119
that math is utterly wrong and you don't deserve any further help desu

>>20326295
>>20326274
holy shit AMPLfags are retarded, my point is that the debase mechanism doesn't contribute in anyway to an increase in marketcap = your money; it's all just FOMO

>>20326483
how so fucking schizo

>>20326496
ok pajeet, one last time...

>u have 100 amp @ 3 usd before rebase, 300 usd value
>rebase happens 110 amp @ 2.7 value 297

WRONG
3$-1$=20% rebase

also, what about the next 100 days where it COMPOUNDS?
and the rebase uses supply smoothing so it is spread over k days... read the whitepaper

>>20326690
Hey OP, you made a nice little post so I clicked it but your math is flawed.
Dont get me wrong I have 25k ampl Im not here to fud it, I love this project.

>u have 100 amp @ 3 usd before rebase, 300 usd value
>rebase happens 110 amp @ 2.7 value 297
is totally correct!

Lets play with this example, so just assume there are NO traders for the next 48 hours, nobody is selling or buying amp.
Price now is 3$ and lets assume we have a 10% rebase. You own 100 ampl so you have 300§ before the rebase. Now after the rebase you have 110ampl for 2,70 = 297$. EXACTLY THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF THIS COIN!!!
Your $ does NOT magically increase.
>>20326496
This dude gets get

price dropped 60% in one day
this is a trap for retards expecting returns every rebase, the coin will always target $0.95~1.0, if the price doesn't recover at least 20% from the rabase, everyone who bought before will get fucked
this is not a coin for brainlets, and majority will get fucked until it reaches $1, the only correct time to buy this piece of shit is when its recovering from a rebase, any different point you WILL be at loss

>>20326861
how is it correct if not even the rebase amount is calculated correctly?
we don't "assume" a 10% rebase with a price of 3$ what the actual fuck? it would be 20% in that case, the formula is public

>>20326881
also if it goes below 0.95 you will be at loss every single rebase, unless you put everything into gaser
this coin will make so many new pinkies, its not even funny

>>20326861
>so just assume there are NO traders for the next 48 hours
Yet I just explained 24 hours..
Lets go on: You now have 110 ampl for 297$. No traders means rebase goes lower, so lets say 8%.
8% of 110 = 8,8 /// you now have 118,8ampl
2,70$ per ampl gets down to 2,48$ per ample
118,8x2,48= 295,1$
Your $ value stays the same

>>20326690
I know all this shit, yes his rebase percentage was wrong but the point stands that rebase is no factor in why price rises it it's just used as a marketing gag becauses it sounds good.

guess what faggot the dump of the token price also COMPOUNDS. it's a 2 way street

>>20327017
we don't assume 110 ampls from 100 ampls and a 20% rebase kiddo, no no no

>>20326881
>>20326972
This is what someone who is looking for a lower entry looks like. Point at him and laugh.

>>20326881
The simple truth is, everybody who fomoed in like a retard on 3,70-4$ will have to hold the coin for some time to get back to his original investment. BUT if the project gets to a higher mc (what is only possible if the demand continues) than even those anons will win in the long run

Heres what I love about AMPL. WE own this coin. Once you buy in and lock your percentage, no one can dilute you out of it EVER. The protocol for rebases is easy to understand and very transparent. Instead of having to track how much tether prints for whatever shady shit they do (probably liquidating shorts/longs) when AMPL expands we all get to share.
AMPL is so much better than tether its not even funny.

>>20326861
>This dude gets get
I got get or get got IASIP?

>>20326935
cant you take a fucking example? what is so hard for you to wrap your head around an imaginary scenario?

>>20327078
I bought at 2.20 am I fucked

>>20327017
>Your $ value stays the same
actually it decreases by about 1% each rebase

>>20326496
whatever, not worth my time to bother and explain shit to you, go back to playing with your shitcoins.

why the fuck do you people even bother when you have no interest in x. So many sjw caring about other people financial investments

I tell all the brainlets who want in:

WATCH THE PRICE!!! YES, the PRICE! Watch the PRICE for the next 3-4 days. We will be between 1,50$ and 3,50$ for the next 7-10 days I dont see the hype dying down.
Now do your own math and decide whether its better to fomo in today on 2,50$ or tomorrow maybe below 2$.

>>20327105
because your imaginary scenario doesn't exist and is based on math. (protip: yours is wrong)

>>20327194
>dollar symbol after price
third world detected, opinion immediately discarded

>>20327116
depends at wich mcap, how many times do we have to repeat it

>>20327116
No. I bought at 3.40 last wednesday and I'm at over 2x.

>>20327256
Last night. I think it was roughly 120 million

>>20327116
I dont think so.
Do the math. Rebase will be 10-20% for the next days depending on the price. So you will get good coins.
Yet the price might go down even to 1,50$ until people buy in again. This is only a 40% lose for you, means you get this money back if we stay on a possitve rebase for the next days (what is sure already)

>>20327105
because we have the formula to calculate the fucking rebase amount and the guy literally used a 50% lower amount than it actually would be?!

>>20327194
Wrong. Do you think 2$ before 10pm is the same as 2$ after 10pm? The longer you wait, the less % you will probably end up with, unless the price keeps dumping harder.

>>20327235
yup wrong by 50%

>>20327236
true, true, even though I do the same mistake from time to time

>>20327263
well played anon

>>20327194
pajeet gtfo

>>20327102
I think you are just too pedantic

Fuck off ghost toast

>>20327290
>unless the price keeps dumping harder.
Thats why you watch the price action

>>20327288
there is the flaw of all AMPLfags.
debase doesn't increase your wealth as you fags like to say it's about the marketcap thus you don't get your money back rebase will just make it dump further and don't get me started if it hits sub $1

>>20327263
larp

>>20327411
Your post is only true if there is NO further demand for the coin. Last days showed us that there is a lot of room to grow.

>>20324715
I only have $500 to invest right now, how much more time do I have to acrue before this takes off

>>20327263
I bought in at 2$ and Im still 4x.
Would I have sold on 5$ before the last rebase and dumb, I would have made a 5x.
Most people dont get that time is on your side if you are IN

>>20327474
if the demand is sufficient AMPL is a great buy I get that it's about the mcap but many anons shill this shit with rebase as if this mechanism alone is the reason why it should pump while actually rebase doesn't change your wealth at all.

if AMPL gets real usage as a stablecoin is has a bright future rn it's just FOMO because muh rebase

>>20327411
That's when the liquidity incentive comes in, the drips offset the negative rebase and you buy more to increase your marketcap share.

(The negative rebases are x10 slower than positive, so 0.9$ is -1%.)

You're wrong again. Just quit it.

>>20327535
>anons shill this shit with rebase as if this mechanism alone is the reason why it should pump while actually rebase doesn't change your wealth at all
so true, many still dont get it.

Ampl is not different in matters of an early investor making a 10x etc.
You get in early the price/demand/mc rises and you make bank.
Currently it is one of the hottest projects because people think that it has a bright future (thats why Im balls deep in it)
AND
Coz anons dont understand it and buy in blindly coz muh rebase

>>20327527
either watch the charts for an entry now or wait until after the next dump happens after tonights rebase and then get in once a bottom forms

>>20326269
doesn't understand money
hurdurr 10 trillion
not a single merchant knows what amp is nor does.
thinks amp can replace bitcoin, litecoin, dash, monero, real genuine cryptocurrency backed by electricity bills.

>>20328826
I think it's to replace tether which is a questionable entity.

I just keep all my shit in the geyser now. It's up to 145 eth and 14k pampl. Cashed out 200 eth cos I dumped my wallet at $4. I'm a terrible trader, so if you're not making huge gains on this there is no hope.

>>20329320
Well played anon.
Now your plan is to stay in the beehive/geyser for the next 2-3 month?
Under what circumstances would you pull out? (like price goes to 6$ and you have 1mil + or price surges to 0,90$ and you lose tokens)

>>20329403
I'm just gonna let the geyser ride forever. I'll either be rich or will have made a shitload of ether and the ampl is worthless... win/win and worth the gamble.

>>20329542
godspeed anon!
Good luck

>>20329320
Do you remember how much you initially put in

>>20329635
it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-20k over a couple days

>>20329799
on that note I think this grew too fast and was somewhat a victim of their success. Having tokens at $4 that you KNOW are going to dump (eventually to $1) makes it too attractive to sell. I know the name of the game is to collect as many as you can while the getting is good, but between the impermanent loss in the geyser and the insanely high price, I don't think this went quite as intended.

>>20329968
I agree on this 100%

>>20325032
AMPL will provide the liquidity needed for the next crypto bull run. I can't even imagine how much that will be worth.