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>40% drop, 150 eth loss

I literally don't care about this

Cool pic, holding 0.004% until im rich.

>>20321859
It would only be a 75 eth lost if you where a geyser chad like me

>>20321940
if it goes on a rip again you lose

Guys, I can't wrap my head around this but I'm reading more and trying to understand nonetheless. Say I invest 10 ETH today with AMPL at $2.3 right now and then say 2-3 days later it's at $4.6. Do I then get to withdraw 20 ETH by selling said AMPL or what?

>>20322039
no, you would sell like 30 ETH in 2-3 days at 4.6$

>>20322075
Oh so a 2x in AMPL's price right now would translate to MORE than 2x the sum of my ETH that I get back? Interesting. I'm not a brainlet. Just started reading about AMPL half an hour ago seeing as it's at the number 1 volume on uniswap.

>>20322039

Yes, you could do that, or you could just hold it and collect on the AMPL rebase every night. The reason it's stealth gains is because it's the first token you don't measure by it's price. It's price is always supposed to be within a certain range, and it's technologically rigged to stay that way. So the market cap grows and you get more and more ampl, but the price doesn't shoot up sky high. It's literal designed to weed out low IQ moonbois while making patient holders rich. You can try to swing it, as the price does go up and down in the short term, but long term as it grows, you just end up getting more and more ampl every night. It takes a lot of getting used to if you're used to fomo'ing or dumping because of price swings. Not for weak hands.

>>20322137
yes, assuming it's go from 2.3 to 4.6 in 3 days, that means if you but 2ETH now then tomorrow you'll have 2.40ETH and the next day 2.9 eth, more or less.

then you could dump those ~3eth at 4.6 like a low iq brainlet, but waiting until it dumps to 1$ would be smarter

>>20322190
This hurts to think about.

>>20322190
"but waiting until it dumps to 1$ would be smarter" - why though? (assuming I only do spot trading). My bad. I know I'm coming off as entitled for an answer.

>>20322190

by dumps to $1, do you mean finds it market cap? I don't really think of this as a dump, it's supposed to be $1. People can't wrap their head around this, but if you think about the fact that you're gathering hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of AMPL on the way to $1 really helps it make more sense. The bigger it grows, the more it stabilizes, and the less price volatility you'll see in a market cycle (like what's happened the last two cycles where it shoots up way above target price and then crashes). With a 1bil market cap that's not going to happen nearly as easily, but the price will also be more stable and closer to $1. The longer you wait for it to stabilize, the less gains you make, cause you're joining when the market cap is higher. If you're expecting it to go to $10 then $20 the $30 you're thinking about it all wrong. It's smart contract uses an elastic supply to prevent this, that's how you get your ampl rebase every night.

>>20322242
it's pretty easy if you ready the red book

>low iq
buy at 0.5, sell at 1.5

>mid iq
buy at 0.95, sell at 1.05

>high iq
buy at 1.05, sell at 3+

>*powergap*

>unlimited iq
buy at 1, sell at 1

>>20322311
>>20322365
i've made a shitty graph a week ago, should be pretty clear

>>20322311

this isn't the smartest token for spot trading in the short term.

>>20322386
i also made the indicator that does entries and exits, you literally can't lose money on this

I bought at $4 and will compound this shit for the next few months and be a millionaire within 3 months tops. This shit isnt rocket science. And if this hits coinbase anytime soon like what the facts are suggesting, ill be a millionaire in one month. Just put 8 ether in and retire in half a year tops. It really is THAT simple. The compounding nature of the rebase is POWERFUL for all of us early holders.

>>20322386
So is this thing designed to keep on oscillating back and forth till it, I suppose, settles at $1 in the future. Anyway, I'll read more. Absolutely seething after that Statera hack. I need to recover financially. Thanks for the input guys. I'll read more AMPL threads.

>>20322386

Are these fixed entry and exit points, or just an example? How do gains compare to those who just compound their AMPL by holding?

>>20322535
>So is this thing designed to k

made all my Statera losses back on AMPL in 4 days, though I got out of STA just before it dumped from 0.02 to 0.015 so I was lucky that way

>>20322611
>How do gains compare to those who just compound their AMPL by holding?
buying at 1 and selling at 1 is like holding but only on marketcap expansions.

if this shitcoin really has strong fundamentals, then it's exactly the same as holding, since the marketcap is supposed to be extremely undervalued

>>20322441
where can i get this indicator anon?

>>20322476
Woooah, wait a minute anon. I got 10 ETH sitting on the sideline.How the fuck do I maximize those? God I wanna get rid of my damn student loan so very badly.

How do you calculate gains? Like if I have 0.001% of the MC (100M currently) and it goes to 1B is that a 10x gain or is it more bc of the rebase?

>>20322640
Dude, it'f fine if you don't wanna spoon feed but where do I go to further understand this? There telegram, any other source?. That statera hack ruined me badly. I need to recover.

>>20322736
buy now at sell at 1$, don't listen to brainlets. if you don't understand why then read the red book. if you still don't understand why then you'll ngmi

>>20322724
i made it, i can give you access to the chart+alerts for 1 eth, kek

>>20322796

Yes, read the redbookon their webpage, and search for their Telegram.

>>20323007

want to see a comparison of how your price alerts hold up next to just holding and gathering the rebase... not convinced you've timed the market magically

>>20322155
this is just literally not correct. there is no "technological lock" that prevents the price from moving outside of a certain range. it could collapse tonight and the rebase would not be able to accommodate the price move and you would be in the negative.

>>20323084
it's not magical, it uses the combination of price and rebases to time entries/exits, instead of only price, so it only works on ampl and on 1h chart.

i could write a quick backtesting script, but it's obvious that my script is better than buy and hold, because it avoid all the periods of negative rebases. during the previous dump it stayed around 0.50 for 10 days, which means holding during that period would've halved your ampl stack

also the script basically confirms what i said before, buy at 1 and sell at 1 during mcap expansion, it's just automatic and i can get email alerts

in any case i will post it on /biz/ daily

>>20323218
>1h chart.
1d*

>>20322441
are greens exits and reds entries? kinda seems like it anon

How is it so hard to understand. The rate it is over 1 is normalized to 10 day cycles so sell-offs like this would be rare. The ultimate fomo made it drop whopping -25%( calculating rebase in) after 10x run up. Anyone who bought 2 days ago is still at good profit and new cycle is loading up.


Say price is 2$ you minus the target 1$ and divide by 10

(2-1)/10=1.1 so 10% rebase. For every 1 token you buy now. You will have 1.1 tokens so 100 tokens will be 110 tokens tomorrow.

This is all to return to 1$ EVENTUALLY

It is still in huge demand and the next cycle is loading up.

Last night holders got 1.27 tokens for every 1 token

Then you calculate compund interest and it will be huge amount.

https://www.ampleforth.org/basics/

The reason this is huge is not because it is ponzi™ but that it follows only its own rules so it doesnt have inflation like US dollars.

>>20323240
green are the hold periods, red are them out-of-market periods. as you can see it basically buys/sells at 1$ more or less

>>20323269
so beside speculation for what reason should i hold this magic shit token?

>>20323218

So you're not currently holding because it's less than $3 and you sold if off, and now you're waiting for $1 as an entry point?

>>20323427
if you are too dumb to understand its best you dont

>>20323429
no, i discovered at 2$ on the way up of the latest green area of the chart, and i'm holding since. even if the price is the same, tomorrow i'll have 3x in ampl

>>20323427

why hold any "shit token"? ... because it has a value proposition. AMPL literally solves the economic problem of inflation and deflation. If you understand this, than you understand why it's worth loading up and holding long term, if not you will continue to speculate on shit tokens

>>20321840
yep, i'm enjoying these passive gains... i'm compounding like a BOSS

want the strategy to make it?
>buy 1k ampl afew days ago
>1 minute after every rebase buy another 500 on the dip

not even a week and i'm up to like 10k AMPL, seirously biz this coin is PAYING YOU to compound & DCA in at dips..

>>20323427
uhm, their faq literally gives you 3 reasons...

>>20323494

Oh okay... for some reason I thought you were using your indicator to time frequent entries and exits to swing trade often. It's just to let you know about major price movements when it wouldn't be profitable to hold

>>20323587
yeah, it's made simply to avoid mcap contraction and ride all the rebases till the end (instead of timing the price peak)

>>20323641

That makes a lot more sense then

Okay, I just figured out that holding the token combined with the repetitive rebases making the price fluctuate up and down compounds the gains.

>>20324258
But this would need me to avoid the phases when the system is reducing the supply. I basically need to time entry exit to continuously accumulate and increase the number of AMPL I hold.

>>20324310
Honestly bro you’re gonna stress yourself out trying to time this perfectly. Just buy and hold. Yeah sure you may not make the absolute most optimal gains in comparison if you timed things perfectly (which is obviously way easier said than done) but the gains will still be insane and drastically beat out the gains you can get on any other crypto right now

>>20324310
trick is to DCA during contraction and take profits during expansion

>start with 1k AMPL
>lets say it contracts for a week, 2k AMPL
>sell some AMPL for $2
>lets say it dumps... hard, $.50
>keep buying afew AMPL each day to keep your 1k whilst it constricts
>cycle eventually repeats
(except you've gained market share %)

>>20324399
this is true unless this expansion is a manipulated pnd and after it ampl goes back to sub 20m

Save yourselves the heartache bros, this is a ponzi pnd

>>20324456
wrong thread, kiddo

>>20324399
I appreciate you patiently responding because while I'm been reading their red book, I suppose it takes a while to wrap one's head around the whole thing. As for, 'drastically beat out the gains you can get on any other crypto right now' - look I won't name my biggest crypto holding to avoid unnecessary shilling on an AMPL thread but I conservatively expect a 10x from that project by EOY. Where's AMPL headed in comparison. This is a pathetic way to look at things I guess but I ain't no guy who semi-made it and lurks biz for funny money. I literally want to get rid of my loans by december.

>>20324638
>Where's AMPL headed in comparison.
ample will make 10x in a week if the price STAYS at 3$

why wouldn't I just buy before rebase and instantly sell after and repeat?

The price of AMPL is TRYING to be $1.00

Price goes up
>AMPL money printer goes BRR until enough AMPL exists to get it back down to $1.00. Anons have more AMPL — but they’re only worth $1.00 now.

What am I not understanding about this? How could someone make moon gains with this? It seems like the moon is incremental at best, and now that the word is out it’s already too late.

The time to buy this was sub-$1

>>20324656
Thank you, that's quite interesting about how the algorithm behaves here. I'm watching youtube videos explaining AMPL at the moment. I will not rest till I recover my losses from that statera/balancer hack. Fuck hackers. Soulless degenerates.

>>20324880
because people take into account the supply change, you will see how the buy offer dissapears taking into account the % rebase to the % price

attachments is proof of the coin doing EXACTLY what it was designed to

>>20324896
because you dont have to think in price, read the whitepaper/redbook, they state that literally, people who use ONLY the price will get rekt, think in mcap, has the mcap room to grow?

>>20324978
>if you only care about the value of your investment you’re stupid
Nigger I’m a fucking INVESTOR what do you think I care about?

I don’t give a shit about their market cap. If I have 300 AMPL worth $3 or 900 AMPL worth $1 it’s the same fucking thing.

Your injection of supply uncertainty into the equation is nice if I wanted to day trade. But I don’t.

>>20324932
I'm not talking about the buy offer itself but just hold AMPL like 30 mins before rebase andsell after?

>>20325025
>If I have 300 AMPL worth $3 or 900 AMPL worth $1 it’s the same fucking thing.
that's because the marketcap is the same....

how do they calculate rebase rate can someone link me?

>>20324638
Thank you for asking the questions and coming back to explain your understanding.

>>20325045
u have 100 amp @ 3 usd before rebase, 300 usd value

rebase happens 110 amp @ 2.7 value 297

>>20325560
so rebase is basically useless?

>>20325668
bump cause I want somebody to explain this to me as well

>>20321840
$2 10% rebase
$3 20% rebase
$4 30% rebase
$5 40% rebase
$6 50% rebase
$7 60% rebase
$8 70% rebase
$9 80% rebase
$10 90% rebase
thats all i have to say, this passive income so nice the past days

>>20325560
>>20325668
>>20326030
For your own good, just stay away from this and move on. Seriously.

>>20325560
What happens the next day? and the day after that?

Which exchange to use?

>>20326030
Look at the Mcap graph oncoingecko. That is what you are buying a % of...the Mcap. The rebase is always a % of the mcap, yes. So you buy and sell of that not the price. I think this is correct...still understanding it so it's hard to articulate simply.

>>20326311
>>20326166
no I've bought some, I'm just trying to understand it a little more cause it's super new.
Going back to the other person's example, if my total value is $297 now, wouldn't that mean the market cap has gone down after the rebase. Wouldn't that mean you should always buy right after rebase?

>>20326238
CHADfinex

Rank 1 - 1.0% of total supply, AMPL balance: 1142675, price: $2708139
Rank 2 - 0.5% of total supply, AMPL balance: 571337, price: $1354070
Rank 3 - 0.25% of total supply, AMPL balance: 285669, price: $677035
Rank 4 - 0.125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 142834, price: $338517
Rank 5 - 0.0625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 71417, price: $169259
Rank 6 - 0.03125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 35709, price: $84629
Rank 7 - 0.015625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 17854, price: $42315
Rank 8 - 0.0078125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 8927, price: $21157
Rank 9 - 0.00390625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 4464, price: $10579
Rank 10 - 0.001953125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 2232, price: $5289
Rank 11 - 0.0009765625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 1116, price: $2645
Rank 12 - 0.00048828125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 558, price: $1322
Rank 13 - 0.000244140625% of total supply, AMPL balance: 279, price: $661
Rank 14 - 0.0001220703125% of total supply, AMPL balance: 139, price: $331
Rank 15 - 6.103515625e-05% of total supply, AMPL balance: 70, price: $165
Rank 16 - 3.0517578125e-05% of total supply, AMPL balance: 35, price: $83
Rank 17 - 1.52587890625e-05% of total supply, AMPL balance: 17, price: $41
Rank 18 - 7.62939453125e-06% of total supply, AMPL balance: 9, price: $21
Rank 19 - 3.814697265625e-06% of total supply, AMPL balance: 4, price: $10
Rank 20 - 1.9073486328125e-06% of total supply, AMPL balance: 2, price: $5

>>20326469
It's not exactly the same % up and down, it's not how math works.

Yesterday we had a 27% rebase and price dropped from 3.20 to 2.52 when it happened. That's <20% drop.

>>20326558
I keep seeing this posted and I don't understand what it's trying to say

>>20326747
so his math was wrong, got it. Thanks

>>20326854
Yes. Thing is, like most of us said in the billions thread, you're buying a % of the total supply (and the current mcap). You're betting the total cap will go higher, but in the long run price is irrelevant. More positive rebases will lower your average entry point. Meaning (rough numbers cause I can't be bothered to math it out but) you could buy 1000 AMPL for 2.5$ right now, and in 4-5 days based on the rebase % you could end up with 3000 AMPL, but each is worth 1$.

I am sorry, but i am a gay nigger who knows not what the fuck is going on with business, and I am very fucking new.

>>20325025
Kek

If I'm one of the most based men to ever live, should I dump my psycho as red pilled white gf for better non female psycho genes or should I just admit that all women are retarded emotional whores and sell my sperm to Asians that want a high iq perfect teethed half white baby?

>>20327905
just fuck escorts bro

>>20323218
>in any case i will post it on /biz/ daily

Thank you, Anon. If you're still in this thread, then we're still in a buy/hold zone? Is there an exit price if things go bizarrely today?

virgin swing trader vs. chad hodler

just buy and hold. gamblers will be wake up at nights trying to swing while you can sleep like a baby and get rebases and win in the long term.

>>20327960
>we're still in a buy/hold zone?
i'd say now is a good buy opportunity, but it really depends if it will pump or dump after the next rebase

>Is there an exit price if things go bizarrely today?
1.05-1.15, but i'm pretty sure it's impossible to dump so low so fast. in the forst case we'll simply get 7 red candles in a row slowly going down to 1$

>>20328044
we are at the lowest point in the correction

>>20328102
yeah, that's what i said, assuming it's a correction and not a trend inversion

>>20328044
The correction was 19k sats bro

>>20321840
>up 5x yesterday
>up 4x today
Never selling!

>>20328044
>>20328102
>>20328144

Thanks gentlemen

>>20328156
>sats
the protocol is based around $, forget sats. also
>watching price at all
ngmi

>>20322441
follwed you from the first screenshot you posted, hope it works out for you anon... would be nice if you shared color changes with us

>>20328420
yeah, i'm still updating it, trying to keep the main idea but remove more false signals

To give some stats from someone actually holding AMPL:
I bought 29 AMPL for 65$ last wednesday at around 60mil mcap. Now I have 63 AMPL, worth 140$, at whatever todays mcap is. This is all from rebases, havent bought any more. As long as it stays above 1.09, I make money from the rebases.

LISTEN EVERYONE VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

>you guys feel these nice positive vibes in this thread, where most anons agree that this is a solid investment, yeah?

Well now imagine the most disgusting and vile FUD you can imagine and multiply it by 1000.
That's precisely how AMPL threads are during EU daytime. I am literally here defending the project for hours with maybe 1-2 amplpilled anons but we are always outnumbered by orders of magnitude.
My fellow EU tards are hardcore FUDing this token and I don't understand why. Pls Ameribros, try to carry over some of the enthusiasm and positive vibes into the next day, because due to the timing of the rebase EUtards all wake up to a massive dump and cause unnecessary panic every single day, while during US hours the price is always slowly pumping towards the T_rebase, which creates FOMO...

>>20328721
I saw those EU threads last night

>>20328721
fuck off pajeet

>>20325560
>>20325668
>>20326030
Lets go on: You now have 110 ampl for 297$.
Lets assume 8% rebase for the next day.
8% of 110 = 8,8 /// you now have 118,8ampl
2,70$ per ampl gets down to 2,48$ per ample
118,8x2,48= 295,1$
Your $ value stays the same

Is the rebase useless?
NO
>NO
NO
>NO

Guys please WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THIS PROJECT

AMPL is the golden goose

>>20322386
What are you saying? "buy at 1, sell at 1." It's way smarter to sell at $4 and rebuy at $2

>>20326192
see
>>20328815

>>20328721
>My fellow EU tards are hardcore FUDing this token and I don't understand why.
to keep the stealthy moon going. if it was for me i'd sage all the ampl threads

imagine even a /biz/tard opening bitfinex and seing pic related, and that hearing that ampl is a stablecoin

>>20328858
no, read the red book

>>20326469
You think wrong anon.
In this example your dollar value will always be ~300$ until there is DEMAND that drives the mc up.
The coin does not behave different than any other investment:
You get in early the price/demand/mc rises and you make bank.
Currently it is one of the hottest projects because people think that it has a bright future (thats why Im balls deep in it)
AND
Coz anons dont understand it and buy in blindly coz muh rebase

Will i get the rebase too when im participating at the beehive?
Wasnt the Case at the Geysir nur they Changes a little Something but cant find an anderer for this.

>>20326854
His math was 100% correct

The IQ of anon "Hwqtl79e" is way higher then anon "yNUAInoX"

kek

>>20327950
Non psycho* not non female heh, and escorrts ain't gonna cook my meals n raise endless baby's. My genes are built for mission impossible soldiers. Seems impossible? Send a clone of me. I need to make many, even if just for sacrificial pawns, because my genes know self sacrifice, honor, and competence.

Uncorrelated. Everything is dumping but ampl.

>>20322386
This is the smartest post ITT even tho the drawing skill could be improved.

>>20329136
oh, in that case you have to pick up a russian virgin, it should be pretty straightforward from there

>>20328858
If you can time the market you are right. You would increase your % stack of the supply.

>>20328969
you will get the rebase on the ampl part of your deposit

>>20329210
yeah, but you're are risking exponential gains for what? tomorrow i'll have exactly the same amount of $ i would have now if i've dumped at 4$ (if the price stays around 2.30). so, it's more or less the same thing, but without the hassle of picking top/bottom (also because 99% of time you pick them wrong, especially with a coin that can't be analyzed with the price only)

>>20328770
I'm a white Groyper

>pic related
Are you ready Chads?

>>20329264
Thanks anon

>>20329210
i see this as a B+ market cap so i have no interest in swinging because ill just take the 10+x and be happy

>>20329136
There is lust, passion, love and connection. You need only one for the rest to follow. And without that one the rest are numb. Don't fall for the glam glam sheitcoins anon. But you need to know who you are and what you want from life for the next 50. I'm not a robot.

>>20329294
True.
Yet there are anons out there who cant calm down and just hodl, acting like an amplewolf to scoop up as much as they can. Also some of those anons are very experienced, can throw money around like nothing and they are freaking good at this game.

THIS is the reason why this is THE BEST biz autism coin in years coz the hodl meme is actually true here.

>>20329368
Google Impermanent loss
There is a lot of opportunity lost. But all less risk.

>>20327905
keep your psycho gf and sell the sperm

>>20329517
>Yet there are anons out there who cant calm down and just hodl
i wouldn't worry about that, and that's also the reason why i don't care about all the fud

ampl has strong fundamentals and deserves AT LEAST 1b market cap, it's just a matter of time. having a bunch of autists dumping at 3, at 4, or even at 1b marketcap, wouldn't change a thing.

>>20329624
yeah. There will always be PNDs like in any other coin. Yet if you have iron hands you will always win.
Also agree on the fundamentals and want to add
>team
>investors
>no real big exchange yet
>not used in defi tool yet

I'm not worried at all. I was 100% sure when the price hit 4$ for the first time that we will dump now any minute. Didnt sell!
In fact Im kind of all in but if we go below 2$ within the next weeks Ill add to my position even tho I didnt want to put more money into crypto.

So, I just bought an Eth worth on Uni.

My best course of action is just hold it in Metamask, or what?

>>20321973
Not even sort of shithead

>>20329858
Don't the have some sort of insurance for the pool too?

>>20329976
Id say yes.
Geyser would be another option but then you need another eth for the LP.

>>20330134
I cant follow your thoughts anon

>>20329432
You confuse me with someone else. I only need one for satisfaction yes. But I have a war to expend my life for. I'm in this to birth soldiers that can take abuse eternally just like me.
Don't tell me some kike shit like "settle for less because that is honorable my fellow goy"

>>20330157
Thanks, anon.
I'll happily admit I've just bought this without doing any research at all - I shall now get right on it.

Every day I refrain from killing myself to see the rebase occur

>>20329203
Russia harbors alot of ((them))
I fear the hook nose crook tooth genetics

>>20330255
this but unironically, if i won't make with this shitcoin then i'll kys myself

>>20324456
>Save yourselves the heartache bros, this is a ponzi pnd
>t.seething discord tranny
still holding out to try & pump your bags of unih3xbombbittoken3.0 up to only a 90% loss faggot?

>>20330246
>I'll happily admit I've just bought this without doing any research at all
Many anons did that.
I say you have choosen a pretty good entry - assuming the demand will go on for the foreseeable future

>>20330268
that's a meme, you can easily find a 100% slav 9/10 virgin

t. russian

I'm holding 9$ in this shitcoin. The rest is in link. What should I do?

>>20330246

The best fucking thing you can do is forget you made this investment. Just walk away, don't touch it. Then come back like 4-5 months from now. It'll be like someone finding an old hard drive they didn't remember they had 5000 bitcoin on.

>>20330446
In 4-5 months? Seems like a really short space of time.
Are you basing that on a bull run happening, and everything else mooning as well?

>>20329327
could you post again when the breakout happens? I'd like to put some ETH into this, but don't wanna risk a breakout to the downside.
There was a lot of whale fuckery yesterday so I thought I'd wait one more day

>>20324880
>why wouldn't I just buy before rebase and instantly sell after and repeat?
>>20324932
>>because people take into account the supply change, you will see how the buy offer dissapears taking into account the % rebase to the % price
not arguing, just curious:
Pajeets & ching chongs can change their ask price on cex's, but uniswap doesn't have a book, its automated. So what mechanism would keep the buy before/sell after strategy in check on uniswap? I assume it's simply the buy/sell pressure?

>>20330528

basing it on the length of the geyser incentive and the market cap growth we've seen so far

Any reason why it's still dumping? I want to throw an ETH or two at this.

>>20321859

I think the thing that bothers me most about holding AMPL is that I'm going to make it, and idiots like this won't even know it.

It's like a ship passing silently in the night, huge gains that most of biz will just sleepwalk right past because they can't understand it and have been conditioned to only watch price.

>>20323505

if you really think a 3 paper whitepaper not written in LaTeX solves "the" economic problem you're crazy.

>>20328721
sorry, if it wasnt for burgers you'd all be speaking german & then russian.
learn to wipe your own asses, we're tired of bailing you betacucks out

>>20323505
>econom

if you really think a 3 page whitepaper not written in LaTeX solves "the" economic problem nobody can help you.

>>20330537
it's taking ages

>>20330747

> cares about documentation format more than the performance of the actual tech

Let's see how this plays out over the next several months. You have to admit that elastic supply is fucking genius and is something that was never made possible before crypto. Why lie and say it doesn't have the possibility to revolutionize the space?

>>20330670
do it now, it's consolidating rn, it never feels right to buy when it's dumping

>>20330703
Ill post pic related and give anons some ampl once Ive made it. They will eat each other to get 0,000001% of the mc

>>20330891
kek

>>20330194
They have insurance for like 50% of the market or something. I don't know how it works.
>We’ve sponsored insurance coverage for all users from
@NexusMutual

>>20330944

Well there you go then

>>20330231
Just saying there are good women, You deserve love which comes from connection. Hard to describe how that compares to banging a tindercoin. Have you ever done meditation anon?

Read this anons
>Read this anons
Read this anons
>Read this anons
Read this anons
>Read this anons
Read this anons
>Read this anons
Read this anons
>Read this anons

>>20331445
oh wonderful thats great to hera yet my money is fucking plummeting you ass hole

>>20331445
i agree with what he said, my only issue with the long term adoption is that the devs have 20% of all ampl

>>20324896
Its not a moon coin. I said it before and I will say again. Its our golden goose. 1 golden egg per day. That's all we get. and I am fine with that.

>>20331735
what did that 20% balloon to in the past year or are you saying it ended up at 20%

march 19 mcap was 1.592 million usd

today it is 115.7 million usd

7267% gain you missed

LETS JUMP IN

state of this fucking board kek

>>20332009

moonboi autists can't wrap their head around this. they're too conditioned to be chasing the dopamine rush of pump and dump shitcoins. What happens when you collect 1 golden egg per day over a long period of time. You have a fucking fortune, that's what.

>>20332120

no you're right anon, we should all wait til the MC is 2 billion and fomo in then. It's the biz way after all

>>20332518
>>20332479

Brainlet here, we're expecting a 27% rebase today and then likely another 50% dump, right?

>>20332540
Basically. I'm at the stage where as long as the price doesn't go below 1.09 i keep making money, so thats what I expect.

>>20332671
>tfw just skating along breakeven right now

I suspect I got into this thing too late

>>20332540

rebase is priced in, dump is not. probably will dip as it does after every rebase. stop looking at price, you're doing it wrong

>>20332726
When did you get in, anon? I got in still relatively late (last wednesday). Rebases have brought my token amount to even with the USD value of my initial buy in (100 AMPL, 100 USD).

>>20323218

hi, ill pay for the indicator looks really good anon..got a discord or TG we can chat?

>>20332833

Thursday, unfortunately, rebuys through this morning have brought my breakeven to around $2 USD, so a 27% rebase with another vicious dump will have me into loss

>>20332789

You're right.

There is another way to look at AMPL. y'all know its going to $1 - now or in a week or a month. Doesn't matter.

Say you want to make $100K out of this. Your objective is simple - get 100K AMPLs as cheaply and as quickly as possible.

Dont sell any. get + rebase. get geyser. day trade. get beehive. Fuck marry or kill - but get your ampls

Thats the game. the cheaper you get them - the bigger the profit. Play to win

I believe in this 100% and will be long term holder. However. I’m thinking so many are in profit once we get close to 1.5 panic will set in and they’ll be a race to take profit for fear of a debase. We could be looking at 1.8 after rebase tonight. That could be enough to spook. Wondering if I sell all now and wait for the panic selling. It will happen. There’s fear built in.

Ampl is new; a new technology.
What catagory does it fit into while trying to define it???

Been thinking...

DeFed
is Amleforth.

This thing is going to be huge.
Cap is key....
No stopping this thing once it gets going...
She's going to be huge!!!!!

My plan is to swap back into ETH tonight after the rebase, and swap back in after the dump. Best strategy for the panic dumping desu

>>20333680
> this is so cool! A protocol that is programmed to return to $1
> it’s going to $1! Quick panic sell!

What time is the rebase

>>20333924
its in two and a half hours. 7pm pst for me

price is going to pump 30 mins before rebase
cap this

>>20333962
Sweet, thanks

y is the mc going down

>>20334026
It’s sub 2. It’s going to 1. If you’re in massive profits you sell now rebuy later.

>>20334136
Look at the oracle rate though...

if you haven't lost all your money on this shitcoin yet then stay far far away anon. this is designed to lose value

>>20334222
Checked.
Rebase will be nice but it’ll just drop the price further. Got to remember a lot of weak hands are holding. They will get spooked. Happens all the time.

THIS PIECE OFSHIT IS GOING TO MAKE SO MANY NEW PINKIES BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>20334222
$3.372 as of this post for anyone wondering

>>20334293
desu it hasnt been calculated yet :P

>>20334308
oof

>>20333680
It's not, VC firms have DeFi under a 24hr microscope and Ampleforth is on their radar. People with brains = people with money and they're not going to miss out on the next bitcoin. They're waiting for a dip probably. And IF we crash down to under $1 (we won't im betting everything on it), that dip won't last long enough for the first debase to kick in. Retail will buy the dip. People aren't stupid, and people are already getting into position for the run to $10 after the compound integration announcement. When has panicking every helped anyone? Hold.

>>20324638
Which one Anon? Help a brother out?

The number of holders continues to grow despite the price chaos

>>20334636
TG grow, addresses, twitter posts... just hold and calm down, add to your position if we go lower

for those who got shilled into this the past days and are hodling for dear life
> look at mc
What does this mean besides being a P&D in the short term?
It will most likely keep dumping until it hits a mc of <70 mill. Your AMPL "shares" will at most increase by ~30%.
At that point you will be down FIAT-wise by a good >30%, depending if you keep holding if the price falls bellow 0.95 - AMPLifying your losses.

The good news is that its a LINK-based project which can only go up in the long term, right? ;')

At the beginning of all this - the post that made you guys invest in this - i told you guys to keep the LOW IQ FAGS out of this coin. Now we all pay the price.

this coin seems like a ponzi but its fun im gonna stay in

>>20334728

the very definition of zoom out, ranjeesh

AMPL...
Tesseract!!!
Is this project is is quantum?

anyone in the know?

>>20328536
I’m fairly certain you’re creating taxable events without trading. Thatd be a nightmare of daily rebase tx’s to track if I just want to hodl and I likely couldn’t argue ltcg and subsequently report with compounding tax burden as well. What a headache, imagine forgetting about this in 2020, it tanks in 2021 and you’re stuck with an exorbitant tax burden from the previous year despite not actively trading and netting a loss. What a nightmare.

>>20336144
Thank god im not an american.
t.german

>>20336144
No transaction so how is it a taxable event?

is this coin viable for a brainlet? im scared of price going below $1 and not being able to plan my strategy to not get fucked, also I wouldn't know what to do in any scenario other than just hold

>>20336379
The coin mcap is contracting atm. Wait until it starts the next fomo run before jumping in. HODLers btfo.

>ORACLE RATE 2.50

HA HA TIME FOR PANIC

>>20336643
The normies are getting absolutely rekt. Next stop under $1.80

>>20336811

a-amplechads what now

>>20336834
Wait for fomentum to create HODLer paradise again before jumping in

>>20336834
you sell now before your pink wojak flash gets disintegrated into oblivion

market cap was up 30x from a few weeks ago, and you think some rebase voodoo will protect you from the respective short-term correction on that? kek

>>20336884

based

except I'm a brainlet so I'm going to hodl

>>20336885

b-but muh geyser

>>20336834
Sell now and buy in lower. Because of the fear of going below one dollar and people being in insane profits there will be an epic dumping. Probably after rebase tonight because the rebase tonight is damn good but tomorrow’s won’t be near as good as tonight’s. So a lot are holding for tonight and I expect nice sells after. Which in conjunction with the rebase will drop price a decent amount. Which then could cause the panic sells etc etc. I personally don’t believe we’ll go below one dollar but the fear of that plus the profits will get us close before we find support.

Also have to think of this. Can the rebase outpace the dump? Not right now.

>Price drops 50% in a day
>15% positive rebase
Yeah holders btfo, totally

>>20336922

This seems entirely logical. Wouldn't parking in a Uniswap pool tend to shield me from losses, given ETH-AMPL arbitrage?

>>20336968
It limits some of the downside, but not all of it. I'm down about 20% on the geyser right now.

>>20336968
This is a competition. If your goal is to shield from losses best bet is to buy gold.

>>20336968
It's logical until it doesn't work anymore. This is a whale game right now.

ETH-AMPL LP limits your risks and limits upside as well (which was monstrous over the last few days for just holding the token). AMPL in pool still rebases...

Easiest suggestion:
HODL and forget about it for 6 months.
For all investments.

>>20337073

Brutal

I'm gonna hold and just watch the damage, here we go boys

>>20337111

Your trips have made up my mind, iron hand all the way to 0

>>20337111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twoqfOyI62E

Join and tell the world why AMPL is a scam guys

>>20336959
>Mcap drops 33%
>hurr durr muh fixed % holding will be worth more
>ERRYBODY HODL!!!

>>20337111
Forgetting about your investments is never good advice. If this go sub one dollar it can wipe out all the gains.

>>20337084
>comparing muh new BTC to boomer rocks

You know how to stick the knife in man ;_;

Get ready for the dump boys.

>>20337142
2.But you can never be diluted by supply inflation
AMPL is non-dilutive. Supply adjustments are applied universally and proportionally across every wallet’s balance. This means your percent ownership of the network remains fixed.
>This means your percent ownership of the network remains fixed.

Do you truly understand this token?
Are you "investing" or "trading" <-
If this idea wins in the DEFI arena, you win forever.

Sweet 15% rebase, now I'm over breakeven at 1.

>>20337379
same, reBASED indeed

>>20337238
What exactly happens at 10pm in the code? When are thing updated how long does it take?

>>20337435

It just happened, 10PM EST

>>20337327
>investing
>trading
why not both?

Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
>Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
>Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
>Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here
>Just a 14,42% rebase, nothing to see here

>>20337478
>unironically, nothing to see
>mcap poorer than when you started

>>20321840
1% rebase a day is 37x in a year. So far we are way further than 1% a day.

>>20337509
Yeah Im just up 4-5x.
Im not the usual biz brainlet you deal here with you little mad fudfag.
I ride 58k ampl and my initial is already out.

Your salt is just a nice little add on.

BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
>BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
>BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
>BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
>BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
>BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!
>BIZ THIS IS YOUR COIN DONT LET EVIL INCELS FUD YOU OUT!

>>20337599
I sold at $4, get rekt

>>20337643
cope bro

i sold all my ample, i paid about 580 for it and cashed out at 2777

sure i didn't make a lot but i still profited, good luck biz

>>20337680
>not pulling out at peak expansion
>hodling through mcap contraction
>not buying back in at beginning of next expansion cycle
ngmi

okay lads i'm out nice riding this with you
could have sold the top at 4 but oh well, a 3x in eth is good enough

>>20337783

Lol do you just enjoy poverty?You literally just pissed away your only chance at making it for one month's of living money. Pleb.

>>20337788
Checked

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20338073
Sell now and rebuy

>>20338088

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20337788
Not going all in early two weeks ago when it was shilled hard. Not making 10x already, trading it like a faggot thinking they will make it.

AMPIES ARE YOU OK?
AMPIES ARE YOU OK?
AMPIES ARE YOU OK?

hold the line
next ching chong volume pump incoming

they said
> sound economics
> equilibrium
> rebase balances supply and price
> supported by LINK

>>20338264
I'm supported by Apple because I use an iPhone for my business

>>20338264
> rebase balances supply and price
Which is what its doing right now you fucking peat moss and people are still shitting themselves.

>>20338286
I am supported by microsoft, valve, audi, amazon, google and everything I touch, really amazing, buy my coin

Anyone else not receive the Rebase into their wallet?

>>20338370
click token - click ampleforth - now you see it

>>20338370
MEW has a hard time updating, it seems. Which wallet?

>>20338370
>>20338406
just use etherscan, the rebase is basicly live instantly

>>20338406
MEW, which might be the problem

>>20338173
Kek, was in from 11m to 160m
get rekt faggot
sold the top

>>20337848

>1.80

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

do i need to do the geyser thing, or just hold in wallet?
i'm retard

>>20338526
Oh yeah and thats the reason you yell around on this frogsite like a little girl that lost her doll.

Sure you made a 40x and now you are scared that your fellow anons on biz could make wrong financial decisions.
Of course you hate the project because it made you rich thats why you are ranting like the retard you are.
We are so lucky to have you here educating us and protecting us from the evil dumbing whales that want to destroy us.

You are a faggot little insect that wants to bring the price down so desperately.
The truth is you will never have a big stack of this you missed it. This is not even going close to 1,50$ in the foreseeable future.

>>20338617
both is working. Geyser is an add on from the project itself to reward you.
Dont buy in blindly anon read up a bit on your investment. Thats actually the best anti-fud-pill you can swallow

>>20338666
yea i kinda get the basics, but still don't get how the rewards are distributed.
so what's the benefit then of geyser vs. just having it sit in mew or whatever? rewards on top of rewards?

>>20338646
Ok, Laquisha, whatever makes you sleep better at night

>>20338711
The rebase is not distributed.
The whole cap increases so every wallet adds up in token amount.
You mix up rebase with reward thats why I told you to read up and understand what you got yourself into. Read up on the geyser too. Im not into the geyser Im just holding.

The logo and name make this sound like the most boring coin but everything concerning it is massive drama and shitposting and the price goes fucking hayware like clockwork every day around the rebase.

>>20338785
Is geyser better or wallet better.

>>20338839
yea trying to figure out as well.
gas fees for geyser seem dumb af.
holding wallet seems better and don't have to fuck around with all these retarded swap/blah blah transactions.

>>20338839
>>20338866
Just hold in wallet imo

Does rebase happen automatically in wallet?

>>20338866
>>20338839
except you KNOW you will hold for the next 2 month at least. Im debatting myself putting some of my stack (1/3) into the geyser.

>>20338902
see>>20338785

>>20338785
>The whole cap increases so every wallet adds up in token amount.
So what, your ampl coins just magically increase?

>>20338432
Thanks Anon, had to dig into etherscan like you said, but I found it. Weird how it hasn't adjusted in MEW.

Wagie, in the flesh - or rather, the Sri Lankan basket weaving forum. I took the liberty of relieving you of your AMPL gains. Most of them were, Bognadoff property. As for the pink... I think you've earned it.

After reading about this all night, I have my geyser running and about 260 ampl that is going to earn me some income over the next little while.

>>20338957
If you want to put it this way yes. There is not a transaction every day to every holder if you mean this.
if you are on etherscan right on the time of rebase you can actually see the rebase live if you click the right buttons.
etherscan - your adress - token - ampleforth - filtered by token holder
Shows your rebased balance right after every rebase.

>>20338866
>>20338884
Yeah at first I thought impermanant loss was fud.
But i seen first hand. Getting fucked over by the geyser. My ETH. Doubled while my ampl stayed the same. In 5 days. If my ample compunded it could of been 3x gains.

>>20338998
Yeah even ethersacn has its glitches but its still the best to watch over transactions. Its also very interesting to check token holders, check out what rank you are and how much you won/lost per day.
People with big pockets bought me out of top 100 :(

>>20339079
Yes. Yet we dont know what way eth and ampl are going. Imagine an eth run starting tomorrow while ampl just stays above 1,50$.
In this case you would win in matters of $ value.
It all comes down to speculation but yes imp loss is a thing in the geyser sadly

Price is going to get fucked hard once the europoors wake up, lol.

>>20339178
I think they’re going to buy the dip and pump it

>>20339131
Once my ample bag matches my ETH stack I will dump them both in. Might put 4 ETH to harvest the multiplayer though.

>>20339206
I think whales will wait til closer to $1 to begin pumping this again. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the ample team is colluding with private equity to manipulate the market.

>>20339293
Why do they always dump before rebase?

>>20339348
There's a certain kind of trader that buys before rebase, let's price recover some, then resells for a minor profit.

In response to the bid up pre-rebase, some people sell as they expect the market reaction post-rebase to drop further than the automatic rebase %, essentially getting a bigger rebase than HODLers. I am one such of those traders.

>>20339419
More clarity, some traders buy right before rebase, rebase drops price, price recovers, they sell for a minor profit.

>>20339079
>Yeah at first I thought impermanant loss was fud.
tried to fucking warn people but TG retards were raiding /biz/ and saying that the geyser was safe
this is after I went from a 0.1% stack down to 0.006% fyi

>>20339543
How many ample is a .1% right now anyway. I dont know the formula to calculate. Because I am retarded.

>>20339692

~ $100k

>>20339879
How much do i need to make it.

>>20339915

1. Make your guess as to final mcap
2. Figure out your "make it" number
3. Divide one by the other, that's how much you'll need

Hoping for top 5 desu

>>20338461
My MEW wallet never shows proper balance, use etherscan or trustwallet

>>20339692
whoops - not 0.1, i meant 0.01% down to 0.006%
my point still stands

>>20340107
Damn that sucks.

>>20340107

Fucking brutal. Early geyser chads got fucked

>>20338617
geyser seems like its for whales only afaik , if you arnt raking in mass eth gains you get your shit pushed in by "impermenant" loss

>>20340267
Yeah. You are correct. My wth doubled. And thankfully my ampl stayed the same. Is beehive v1 worth it though.

>>20340299
checked and i doubt it i think its just safer for the whales but since i am a minnow and happy cooompounding i dont bother looking into it

>>20340221
yeah might have kept ampl if i was still at 0.01% but fuck that dumped it all for a 3x

>>20340243
yep got sucked in on the goyser meme and lost about 12k of potential gains

>$1.62

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This sell off is scary. Is it going to $1 - I think it is

>>20341842

Feels extremely bad

i still have the green bar today, comfy. the more time it stays above 1.06 the better

>>20342038

Is the calculation for buy/sell agnostic of your entry, or determined by it

>>20342264
no, the entry is only base on the rebase/price. the exit happens when rebase are almost dried up, above 1$, so unless there's a reversal then it will probably happen in a couple of days

>>20342317

That is extremely crafty, anon. So really, if it's hovering around 1.06 it's wisest to GTFO?

>>20342409
without the indicator i'd place stops aroud 1.06-1.10 to be super safe. 1.00 is panic sell, lol

>>20342451
>without the indicator i'd place stops aroud 1.06-1.10 to be super safe. 1.00 is panic sell, lol

lol, it sure as hell is. I'm about to go to bed and hope it's not there when I wake up. Thanks for sharing the model Anon

>>20342554
meawhile
>>20341821

we are all gonna make bros

weak hands will lose everything on this one and smart anons will make a fortune if they hold on

>>20343452
Smart anons sell now and buy back cheaper.

>>20343497
>selling the dip
>>20342460

Look, guys - it's going to $1. I'm sorry to say but too many moonboy retards bought in.

That's not a bad thing. $1 will hit and then panic will ensue. In less than 24 hours. The good thing about this is that it will reset things and we can gear up for another pump.

There are going to be cycles like this that happen every so often.

>>20343532
no shit, it's literally a 1$ stablecoin, of course it's going to 1$

>>20343513
>Doesn't understand the dip is below $1.
>Didn't sell the top and won't buy the bottom to stunt on hodl plebs.

>>20343557
>thinking in terms of price only
ngmi

>>20343532
It’s safe to say there will be less incentive to stray far from the 1$ mark. Everytime that happens the additional coin supply push prices toward 0 very fast and crashes the marketcap even with daiy rebase. People will just play it safe and short/close their positions around 2-3$ max.

Where can I see the current exact token supply that's up to date and accurate?