/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>20278483
Yes fren, it's alrdy happening for the higher up echelon :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Z9waSYfns
Live just ended, Andy Schectman explain how the institutional investors are reclaiming physical delivery for their SLV positions. Something that very rarely happened before, and imho show the extreme defiance in the market from big players.
JPM just had to get rid of 20% of their monster dragon stash this month ALONE. At this rate, if investors continue to close their positions on the comex and reclaim physical, JPM will have nothing left in their vault before EOY.
And without physical left, they can't keep their short positions, because it works like fractional reserves ; they need a base capital to start generating SLV contracts.
It's a literal silver run happening rn, when they run out of physical and 90% of their SLV is still in circulation and investors continue to want delivery, it will be a shitshow of epic proportions.

my humble stack

>>20278748
Humble but very comfy to look at, congrats fren.

>>20278742
so what you're saying is that come EOM, if we see another set of deliveries, FOMO in and just buy as much physical silver and silver miners as humanly possible?

get in. we're gonna make /pmg/ great again

cheeki breeki edition

>>20278748
>gold merc dime
>korean waifu
>elephant
>aztec calender
>panda
>cyber round
>P&G poured

Very nice fren

>>20278722
>"Dumb enough to believe Epstein was the bad guy" edition
yeah, i think i'm going to just avoid this whole thread, if someone makes a real /pmg i'll be happy to join in

>>20278742
>JPM just had to get rid of 20% of their monster dragon stash this month ALONE.
Poppycock! I need some pictures of Wall Streeters receiving deliveries of beautiful rocks, this sounds mythical and fictitious.

How can I get physical delivery to my IRA?

>>20278786
We're already on our way.

get in, we're gonna make /pmg/ frens again

>>20278748
nice, looks like a gun you actually carry every day

>>20278785
Pretty much, yes. I think the tiny divergence we saw in march/april between physical and spot price (well, not so little, it was costing the double to get your hand on physical) will happen to a whole another level once investors understand there isn't any physical left to back up SLV.
Can't wait to see fudders cope once spot remain in the $20 range while an ASE will cost you $200 irl kek.

just curious, what amount of money should i be spending a month on precious metals? like percentage wise, what do you guys do?

>>20278851
henlooo fren nyaa~
moshi-moshi?

>>20278870
also why are these threads so comfy? minus the occasional /pol/tard people are nice and the content is good

>>20278888

about 350 mr digitsman

Bought my first Morgan today. It's instantly become one of my favorite coins. I used to avoid them because of the premium, but actually having one has changed my mind. For a 140 year old coin still with mint luster, it was surprisingly cheap.

Where did that s_yboy from last thread go?

>>20278923
Of course it's a cull morgan so the other side looks like it was run over by a lawn mower, but nonetheless it's a great coin.

>>20278916
awesome, thats what i had planned myself. but right now im playing catch up after not stacking for several years

>>20278923
San Francisco mint
nice. i love them Morgans and can never have enough of them, also the Peace Dollars, and Walking Libertys

>>20278923
I have an 1885-O in nearly perfect condition, not particularly valuable from a numismatic standpoint but it's one of my favorite pieces. Morgans are great.

>>20278888
I'm spending about 25% right now, but I also feel like I have an addiction.

>>20278842
>How can I get physical delivery to my IRA?
I believe you can't apply for delivery under a certain amount, something like 10 Full SLV (each SLV = 5000oz). So unless you have 50,000oz+ worth of SLV ETFs, they basically tell you to fuck off and you only are allowed to cashout in USD.
Sorry fren.

>>20278870
Nice! Speaking of carrying, what does PMG take with them? I carry the eagle on me and the rest is my dedicated fondling stack.

>>20279031
i used to always carry a pair of Walking Libertys. breddy comfy to carry and fondle

>>20278722
ahh man thats a great post photo... amazing wall of gold.

>>20279031
The little falcon coin is sterling and I take it with me everywhere I go. I also keep the 12 ASE and one of the leafs out on my desk for fondling.

>>20278985
Fugg.
Well there ARE ways to keep physical in an IRA, but they involve all sorts of fine-print fuckery that isn't worth it for me. There's now a service that does that shit for you... if you pay them.

The amount of shitheads posting in /PMG/ is bullish AF

>>20279071
>>20278953
So far this thread is super comfy, don't take a chance at summoning them, frens

>>20278888
As much as I can get away with. Working any OT I cant get my hands on. Gonna start selling some of my collectible shit (keyboards + anime figures) that I'm not that into anymore.

>>20279071

>>20279071
dam it this photo is great too, who evers stacking this is doing great..

please say henlo to muh gurrfren

>>20279071
GOYIM NO

>>20279122
I'm always here.
you just don't notice me until I disagree with you. Because anyone that agrees with you must be your buddy and anyone that disagrees must be an enemy.

this is the reason the FBI has no trouble taking people like you guys down if you break the law. You're idiots.

>>20279147
Sorry but no

>>20279147
sonrry fren but i think yuor gf is a man

>>20278742
Hemke was on Greg Hunter this week. He explained this topic very well

>>20279192
link?

>>20279071
>no merc dimes
>no batbois
ngmi fren

>>20279192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOPKizJ_Y
I watched it. He's a little spastic but what he's saying makes perfect sense.

>>20279228
dead link :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOPKizJ_Y4

my bad

>>20278842
Minimum contract is 5,000 oz I believe. So a cool hundred grand with premiums (give or take a a few grand).

has anyone else been telling attractive girls to invest in crypto? i figure that once they're totally destitute, they'll be less able to negotiate for 2 merc dimes, and instead settle for 1.

>>20279228
>>20279198
He said JP Morgan could just stop shorting
now and let silver run. They would make over
$100 million every dollar that silver goes up.
That's not gonna be chump change.
He is claiming that they only have a 100 million
ozs left. I've heard they are holding a billion ounces

>>20279346
>He is claiming that they only have a 100 million
>ozs left. I've heard they are holding a billion ounces
Reality is probably lying in the middle, around 4-500moz. 100Moz sounds too low, but 1Boz is a totally absurd claim. They don't even have the storage facilities to hold that much, and that's like half the investible silver in existence worldwide.

Any other based games out there?

>>20279439
Bix says ~600-700m before the June deliveries go out. I'd peg their reserves in August at about 550m, ballpark.

>>20278416
Im not trying to antagonize anyone friend.
Im simply trying to get everyone to really think logically if storing their wealth in the bulkiest most abundant of precious metals is really the best decision
Im not saying it isn't but im saying that I disagree with the pretty commonly agreed upon assumption that silver is gonna drastically jump up to a greater ratio to gold
So far the only information that I've been given that actually is convincing and logical is that silver is mined gold:silver 1:8 at maximum capacity of miners and not 1:100
Other than that all the links have just been speculation and heresay. The only thing that was proven about silver manipulation is that people are on trial for allegedly doing so
I didn't see anything showing how much they're manipulating silver and on what scale
Another poster pointed out that market manipulators are only able to manipulate the silver market in terms of cents not the hundreds of dollars claimed
So I still don't see much evidence that such a huge correction as 1:8 is imminent or even that likely
But im still open to being proven wrong
Understand that I buy silver and I want to buy more silver in likely far greater amounts then gold
I would be delighted if all my silver ends up being worth far more then I would expect. But im just not convinced

>>20279071
holy krugerrands batman

>>20279477
Buffalo looks so much more golden then the eagle
How come it looks bigger though?
Also what sizes are those?

>>20279504
>silver is mined gold:silver 1:8 at maximum capacity of miners and not 1:100
this is actually because of the price, not the cause of it.

if silver goes up in relation to gold you'll see more silver being mined since miners respond to markets rather than creating them.

that's one of /pmg/'s largest misunderstandings regarding supply. Miners' production doesn't necessarily reflect geological reserves. There are practically infinite reserves at diminishing returns, but the market has to find a price that makes them worth mining.

>>20279071
kek nice gold lad

>>20279572
Buffalo is an oz while the eagle is 1/2 oz

>>20279071
Gold really is king isn't it?
Damn they're so beautiful
You should add pic related to your collection though

>>20279504
No. Shut up. Shut the fuck up.
You do this EVERY TIME.
You show up and at first, you're all in agreement, you're polite, you SEEM rational at first glance. You try to add to the discussion. You make some vaguely okay posts.
But EVERY SINGLE TIME you go back to antagonizing. Then you come back.
Over.
And over.
And over again.
Are you well? Do you have brain damage? Do you even for one single second think that your antics are anything but a drain on your resources? Do you have anything better to do with your time?
The answer is no. Because you have no friends, and nobody will talk to you in real life, because you are literally
The
Most
Annoying
Motherfucker alive.
So congratulations, you got me to write up a huge blogpost about how much I hate you. I assume that the feeling is mutual. This is the only response I will give you itt.
Get therapy. Holy fuck, get therapy. You are literally crazy and obsessed with a group of people who want nothing to do with you.

>>20279588
Interesting point
I assumed that was a technological/ geological limit rather than a demand limit

>>20279619
I see I see. Nice t&a coins too there friend

>>20279588

the silver/gold geological ratio isn't that far off 8:1, maybe 18:1. so yes, it exists, but it's not really not that big of a difference in the scheme of things. if the silver/gold price got to 18:1, i don't think too many people here would be complaining.

>>20279664
Thanks buddy
My collection is basically made of meme coins, excluding the bat boi

>>20279643
Your confusing me with some other poster friend. I don't come here as often as you or that guy and when I do i usually post frogs and hazmat suit memes, so you can recognize me that way.
Im literally just here to get people to convince me that silver is the best way to go
I can only be convinced by logic though

>>20279646
it's both

mining costs money. The amount it costs varies based on the content of the rock. The metal has to be worth more than the cost. So we're sitting on fucktons of metal that will never be worth mining.

it's not that it doesn't exist or isn't valuable, it just costs too much to mine it so it waits for prices to go up.

the real understanding that /pmg/ is finally starting to pick up on is that most gold and silver is byproduct of copper and other base metals mining. So it costs essentially nothing to produce and will continue to be produced even if prices were to crash.

so there's a minor glut possible if demand crashes. But miners avoid this by storing the excess metal until the price goes back up. They don't sell when the price s low. They flood the market when prices go up. But this is part of the cause of PM's stability.

>>20279686
Can you post the obverse of that? I was interested in buying those but the apmex photos looked like crap

>>20279250
Holy shit, that's all so fucking BULLISH for PMs.
God bless the (((FED))) for going full bbrrrrr retardness and spooping institutional investors into reclaiming delivery, thus imploding the comex scam.

IM SO FUCKING HARD RIGHT NOW. ITS REAL FRENS, WE ALL GONNA MAKE IT.
OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEESSSS

>>20278888
I spend literally all of my income after rent and food on stacking. After a while it just comes naturally, why would you spend on disposable goods rather than physical assets ever, if you can avoid it?

After a while it almost becomes painful to buy little luxuries when you realize “that $10 could have been a Kennedy half-dollar” or “that $25 could have been an ASE”. “That $300 at the end of the month could have been a 1/10 of gold.”

After a while, you will likely become as obsessive about saving as you once may have been a hopeless spendthrift. There’s probably such a thing as taking this too far, but it’s still surely better than the opposite extreme.

>>20279676
scarcity has more to do with ore tenor than actual number of molecules in the crust of the planet.

so the actual ratio may be much higher or lower than what miners have to work with.

>>20279708
More interesting info thanks

My stack. I think there comes a time to start buying rare coins you don't want to see melted down. Then on the other side the coins become even more rare.

>>20279676
the larger problem that /pmg/ doesn't get is that there's no real reason for the price of silver to be tied to that of gold in any way.

the ratio of one to the other mattered when they were used as currency, but that's not the case anymore.

>>20279711
Nice coin but the details aren’t as good as I thought it would be

Anyone still awaiting shipment for orders placed 7/4 weekend? I ordered from Provident and no updates beyond payment receipt.

>>20278888
I only invest in like 5 things at a time, max. So right now everything I save is going into miners and metals since I already have enough cash for emergencies without selling metal.

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>>20279753
There is the possibility that investors may pile into silver the more expensive gold becomes as an alternative safe haven.

You’re essentially right all the same, though. And you can’t bet on this happening. The answer is to buy both, that way you have both the king of PMs AND silver in the event of the price manipulation/ratio memes being proved right.

Also buy relatively affordable old coins for those numismatic gainz over time

>>20278722
Picked up 60oz of these baby’s - think I’m going to stack them exclusively from now on. I love them!

>>20279793
I’m a big fan of little bars.

>>20279796
yep.

the other thing that may make them look tied is that investors use both for the same purpose, so they're both going to be bought and sold under exactly the same timing.

but I think /pmg/ is counting on a breakdown of the ratio between the two in order to buy cheap gold in exchange for expensive silver.

this is rational if gold is the desired end product, but overlooks the fact that silver had to moon to get to that point, and thus it has performed better than gold. Also gold's underperformance against silver won't necessarily mean it will perform better in future.

gambler's fallacy and ignoring the investment potential of silver on its own. Also all those scenarios are judged against fiat, which is perhaps the 'normal' investor's error.

>>20279763
Yeah it kinda looks more like a round then a coin
Pretty good deal though

>>20279852
>this is rational if gold is the desired end product,
also if inflation doesn't exist

in real life you can just buy gold and count on the value of the dollars you spent to drop. Or the price to go up. Which is the same thing.

>>20279808
Those are pretty cool actually

>>20279808
Neato, ancient egyptians were peak kino and PMs' OG lovers.

>>20279767
Supposed to be here today but I couldn't pick it up.
Post office closes so early on Saturdays and it took so long to get here.
Cant wait to see my buffalos

>>20278888

i save about 50% of take home pay each month (so excluding 401k), which is about 2.5k. of that, pretty much all of it goes to investing. i do keep about 2 years (give or take 6 months) of living expenses in cash, which makes me a little uneasy at times, but i figure that's basically my hedge on my investments. it worked out well in march, when i was able to add to mining positions on the cheap.

the best way to invest in pm's is to not carry debt and having a savings cushion. without those things, it's great to hold pm investments, but you may be forced to liquidate them at the worst time.

>>20279751
> I think there comes a time to start buying rare coins you don't want to see melted down.

Based. The true gentleman-stacker buys rare coins at low premium to save them from melt and to max stack size.

>>20279487
I don't know are there?

>>20279643
I hate the posters who just come to generals to ruin them.

but you guys get VERY upset if I just question the validity of the JPM manipulation mythology, the idea that currencies of the future will be backed by silver, or the idea that the Gold:Silver ratio ALWAYS has to normalize to past levels.

I just want to buy some rocks

>>20279883
They used slaves to mine gold and silver in the Rift Valley. You could find yourself working the mines by being a criminal, owing debts you can't repay, or being conquered in war.

the mines were cut using a simple but painfully slow technique. First one set of slaves would fashion large granite blocks of roundish shape. Then a framework would be erected in the mine and the granite lump would be hung from it on a rope. The slaves would then swing the granite block into the face of the mine repeatedly. Very slowly bashing the granite through the rock face. Over time the granite became rounded by wear and the wall would advance several inches. Ropes would wear out and slaves would be crushed by the falling rock. If they survived that they invariably died within a few months from inhaling rock dust or getting crushed between the pendulum and the face.

they had an interesting PM industry going on.

>>20279966
>no, you can't discuss precious metals in my precious metals threads!
kek

>>20279987
the egyptians also came up with the hot / cold method of mining, where miners would set a huge fire at the face of the workings, than when the fire had gone to coals, splash water on the rock to cause it to burst. This worked fairly well compared to hammering the rock with copper hammers and chisels.

>>20279987
>nubian POWs btfo
That sound incredibly based, we should do the same with US niggers, it would add an extra layer of satisfaction when i purchase my silver.

>>20280026
Yes, I believe Pliny attests to it in Greece but the egyptians actually used it earlier

Fire setting works great as long as you don't have pyrite ore, which will of course catch fire and not go out.

there's also the inevitable deaths from explosions and steam when the water hits the hot face. Or deadly gasses from roasting sulfides and chlorides

I only have like a grand in crypto, but have been considering cashing out for some silver and gold. For what it's worth, I've only invested 600 into it so I'm definitely in the green on it. Where would you recommend I start?

>>20279966
The real reason to buy silver over gold is the same reason it originally became a monetary metal in the first place: gold is so expensive that unless you are exceptionally wealthy, you will either have to buy in inconveniently un-fractional 1oz amounts, or buy 1/2, 1/4 or even 1/10 amounts and pay massive premiums.

I still buy gold too, but for less well off stackers, being silver-heavy just makes sense. You can physically buy more of the metal, which gives more of a sense of satisfaction in a simple, emotional way. You can afford to buy more individual coins and bars, which means you have more flexibility to sell part, and means you can have a more varied stack of varies coins, rounds and bars (rather than just a few and smaller of any).

Finally, silver does move faster than gold if and when it goes up, making it arguably a better hedge against inflation and instability, even if it is otherwise undoubtedly the lesser of the two metals and less desired generally.

I buy both though. Silver is fine and I love it, and valuable enough, but gold just is more special and universally valued. It can be said of gold that any amount, any weight, coin, round or bar, any condition is in very high demand everywhere.

Basically there are specific reasons to stack silver, it’s great and worth stacking, but don’t kid yourself, it’s not gold and never will be. That’s fine, and it doesn’t have to be. The fact that it’s less valuable is actually part of what made it useful as a currency in the past and easy to stack today. It’s also what made it relatively affordable such that many ordinary people have shiny silver eating implements and home decorations.

Gold is a wonderful, timeless metal that never tarnishes, can store intimidating amounts of wealth in a tiny volume and weight, and is and has always been the ultimate show of power. Silver is a more humble but still wonderful metal that can and was cheerfully used as a means of payment for the...

>>20280156
...working and middle classes for centuries, and it gives a flash of indulgent luxury to decorations, implements and containers. You and I can buy shiny silver jugs, bowls, frames or spoons without completely breaking the bank.

>>20280065
yea worse was when they encountered arsenopyrite ores, sure it carries a lot of gold, but the elemental arsenic would break off from the rest of the sulfides and cause all sorts of issues for the miners.

>>20280184
Yep.

I don't think you can count yourself as a mining man unless you can ID pyrite, arsenopyrite, and mercury vapors by their smells!

>>20280156
This is my thoughts
The only real reason to stack silver is because it's more affordable and in case of hyperinflation itll be easier to use in smaller amounts then gold would be...
Say I want to do some grocery shopping but I don't want a bunch of cash sitting around losing value
Silver is better for this purpose

>>20280212
did arsenopyrite smell like garlic to you?

>>20280026
>at the face of the workings
What is the meaning of this?

Floor stacker, you here bud? Sorry about the last thread, I had to do some quick prototyping

>>20279723
Based and ascetic pilled. Once you start valuing everything in ounces, most consumer frivolities seem absolutely excessive when you could forgo it and add POUNDS of metal to your possession forever.

>>20280244
onions and blood, similar to pyrite but with a stronger onion or garlic smell.

>>20280245
front of where the men are digging.

>>20280245
the wall of rock we're mining is called the face

>>20279691
>I can only be convinced by logic though
This is a strength, but it will also become your folly. Remember! one of the worst risks you can assume, especially as a younger person, is not enough risk. Whether or not this applies to precious metals both physical, paper, miners, etc. is something I can't really answer.

>>20280258
So in that video it was a 20, so it flashed jacksons eyes, then the fed logo, then the treasury logo, then jasksons name, then 20, then 20, then the treasury logo, then " reserve note" then an american flag, then 2020, then "white house" I dont know what you make of it but I look at it as a damn good sign

>>20280258
The hilariously awful or great thing depending on how you look at it is that you’re almost never too poor to at least add a little to your stack.

>tfw I have less than $10 less in my general budget with a few days left until payday
>”wait a few days? nah, I totally still have enough money to buy a silver dime or old Canadian quarter right now.”

>>20280258
And also Jacob Joseph Lew's signature

>>20280309
>one of the worst risks you can assume, especially as a younger person, is not enough risk
true, that's why I encourage anons to speculate on real estate and stocks. Maybe even crypto.

PM's have very little risk, but historically also very little reward.

>>20280319
Having your money in metals definitely makes you a better saver. If I had 100 grand in my bank instead of silver it would be so tempting to go to a BMW dealer and get something to impress the ladies. Instead, it's in silver and a total pain in the ass to sell, when I buy more and empty my bank account I feel poor again and am forced to save even more. Dave Ramsey says saving is less about your income or interest rates, it's more about mindset and discipline and he's a fucking cunt for not realising precious metals are the ultimate way to force discipline and save money for poor fags.

>>20280312
Andrew Jackson did indeed hate the central bankers, I'm not sure if it's a sign that he intends to make a move against them in his next term I just wonder why he hasn't already done so.

>>20279691
My apologies fren. I'm tired of this one guy spewing negative energy around the place and shitting up our comfy bread.

>>20279071
damn nice stack there fren
a dream stack for us all
might want to start adding in some silver

>>20280393
>I'm tired of this one guy spewing negative energy around the place and shitting up our comfy bread.
don't worry, I'll get busy with work again in a day or two.

while you guys are stacking thousands I'm earning millions. I can only afford to laugh at you so much of the time.

Working for corp bucks isn't half bad.

>>20280368
>PM's have very little risk
This is where I might disagree.
>PM always under performs
>don't invest in commodities
>you need to go 100% Vanguard Total Stock Market
>bonds under perform
>real estate valued at 7x median salary is a fine investment
The perceived risk assumed by investing in PM in terms of opportunity cost is incredibly high, particularly physical due to premiums. I also think that silver gets the real short end of the stick here and is generally overlooked as an investment - that said my tinfoil and gut are saying silver while my brain says industrial miners and agriculture. On the real estate one, i think the utilization of long term debt is good, especially if you're bound to be in one location for a while, but earnestly the land and the house are risky in ways people don't seem to want to discuss (tax changes, changes to public services, etc.).

Anyone know where an anon could buy pure silverware sets? Not sterling but pure silver. I want to eat off of it and use pure silver utensils. Any tips? Pic not related.

>>20280383
I think its a sign he is going to go after them this term, in 2020. Andrew Jackson shut down the 2nd national bank on September 10th 1833. I'm hoping we are going to get some news this September 10th, As all the fed repo fuckery started on September 10th last year. Im hoping at least.

>>20280156
>silver is the poor man's gold
yeah that's why I'm looking to add some coinage in addition to my paper.

Not sure why I bought paper silver instead of adding to my paper gold though.

>>20280469
Anon, do you think the script is about to flip? With deliveries going to be 100k plus in September will this collapse the comes market and start the silver bull explosion?

>>20280212
>>20280212
Of all the various heavy metal poisoning I have had, molybdenum is the best. It's like a nice indica body high.

>>20280483
I'm not sure if pure silver is durable enough to be made into utensils.

>>20280469
I agree 100% on all counts.

I can't tell the future, and the past isn't always a great measure of the future. People can do what they want. But it seems silly to me to invest in a 3% gain when other investments are doing 10% or 100% right now.

a good long perhaps, but even in the last 6 months /pmg/ has lost more money by not being in stocks or crypto or even real estate than they'll likely ever gain in silver.

>>20280523
Eh, yeah, you’re right. But there’s gotta be something out there. Sterling’s good enough I guess.

>>20280521
huh

I've never tried moly poisoning despite having done millions of dollars worth of work on a couple of the largest moly mines in the world

how exactly did you ingest it?

>>20280483
Why would you want to?

DESU the best silver utensils are antiques and made of 80% or 90%-odd silver.

This shop has some great stuff:

https://www.ma-shops.com/shops/search.php?submitBtn=&searchstr=silverware&lang=en&catid=926

>>20280533
Thanks just bought another kilo

>>20279963
Even if we don't sell them at a profit maybe donate them to a museum when they stop throwing away everything that has to do with America's founding.

>>20280504
Honest to God, I can't tell. I shouldn't post Apu's because I guess it makes me seem like that guy that went turbo autismo on what we can infer about silver and the roll of JPM in the silver markets. Tbqh I don't really understand how those financial tools used by these institutions actually work on price, and I have a bit of a magpie brain. I do know that there are some much smarter people than me that have found and presented that commodities are critically under priced compared to the indexes, and my /pol/-senses are tingling, particularly with silver. Again, my brain is saying North American and European metals and manufacturing, but my gut says silver miners and physical silver. Really, I'm more interested in lead, iron, and protein, but being in a turbocucked state leaves me with few options. Hopefully I get to move if anything really starts to happen.

>>20280533
Just bought 5 more cyber rounds.

>>20280309
>Remember! one of the worst risks you can assume, especially as a younger person, is not enough risk.
There's truth to this. Im terrible with risk, I try to avoid it at all costs. But if im so scared of risk I think I could end up screwing up because of hesitation

>>20280576
np

to be fair I shit on stocks and bonds and crypto investors too.

investments won't make you rich, I don't care what they are. The best case scenario is you work 50 years of your life and get to take the last 10-15 years off if you're healthy.

>>20280572
Thanks, fren!

>>20280408
You already outed yourself as an unemployed dumbass with a DV charge, and made it clear that the only thing of value you own is about $40 in shitcoins. Face it, everyone here hates you, and you should stop posting.

>>20280533
>But it seems silly to me to invest in a 3% gain when other investments are doing 10% or 100% right now.

There is a difference between a physical asset and an investment. In a way, if you are as wealthy as you claim to be, perhaps this is part of the reason why you can’t appreciate why those of us who haven't made it yet want the security of accumulating physical assets we can physically hold and be sure of having.

When I have a bit more in savings built up, I will consider investment options. Sure, you can say that technically buying precious metals is a speculative bet on their future prices (and that some physical assets like real estate can be just as speculative as anything else), but nevertheless owning a physical thing that has a known and relatively secure value gives a sense of security that owning an ephemeral share in a business venture or novel electronic currency does not.

Now, you might say, this conservative way of thinking is why you’re not rich: but in any case, I want to build up savings at the moment. It’s not a rejection of other investments, just a matter of current priorities.

Historically, the ordinary man kept three shillings a week to save, and only the already well-to-do risked their money on buying shares, stocks, bonds or other speculative instruments. While today we can count on somewhat more generous governments helping us out if we find ourselves destitute, it’s still prudent to be cautious, and not essentially gamble with what you can’t afford to lose.

>>20280557
I just breathed in the dust over the course of cutting 99.99% molybdenum for a couple hours at a time. Was for a series of jobs a few years back. Shit is expensive as fuck.

>>20280128

Learn to DAG at the right times and use that to buy. I mean to take gains in your initial investment and use that to reinvest your position and diversify.

What's /pmg/'s take on gold-backed crypto?
I've held gold for a while and made a solid grand off of it, but going into the crypto markets for the first time, I'm ever concerned about the obvious volitility. However surely gold backed crypto has the base benefit of gold (stable, spikes in economic crashes) while having the added rate of increase associated with the overall growing crypto market - in essence profiting from two birds, with equal stability as before?
Also, and general tips to watch out for would be great (no altcoins because I'm sticking to binance for now), due to the general lack of indians in these threads.

Comfy thread and peaceful to read on /biz/, learned a lot, thanks anons

>>20280533
DR;NS

>>20280597
I also live I a cucked state New Jersey. I’m moving to Maine or NH if silver moons. Your posts have made me go hard on buying. I am now at 650oz Ag and you are very much to thank. See you on the other side space cowboy.

>>20280663
>perhaps this is part of the reason why you can’t appreciate why those of us who haven't made it yet want the security of accumulating physical assets we can physically hold and be sure of having.
I started off exactly like you guys, I just saw a much better way and now I look back on my earlier efforts as useless.

I still understand you. I collect gold ore and coins. I collect silver coins. I have the crow mind, I love the shiny, solid assets. But now it's a hobby and I see it as an expense, not a business.

that said, if it's all you can afford it's far better than not saving anything. I mostly laugh at the idea of societal collapse and metals backed currency. I laugh at the idea of it making anyone rich.

>>20280680
interesting. I've completed large projects at Henderson and Climax, but they're super careful about inhaling dusts. MSHA in general frowns on that sort of thing. Thanks for sharing.

>>20280701
Well, I think that some government or coalition of governments will try your idea sooner than later. Just due a transfer/reckoning of physical metal holdings at the end of the month/quarter, and you can move decimal amounts of metal rapidly with crypto wallets tied to the mass of metal you have vaulted.

>>20279166
filtered

>>20280809
>filter me
>filter everyone that responds to me
>thread gone

>>20280597
>I shouldn't post Apu's because I guess it makes me seem like that guy that went turbo autismo on what we can infer about silver and the roll of JPM in the silver markets
It's ok fren, if i wanted to namefag i'd have done it by now. You can call me finance frog btw, that's how the frens on /mmg/ calls me.

>>20280832 meant for
>>20280736
Thanks finance frog. Went deep into silver because of you. Sorry thought that anon was you.

>>20280646
this is what I mean when I say that if you leave paranoid schizophrenics alone long enough they'll eat each other.

>>20280701
>gold-backed crypto
pass. crypto's biggest value proposition is making code (math) into law. Unless an application can be automated and audited without human interference or error, it's too expensive.

>>20280736
609 silver suicide stack reporting, brother. Apparently some of the county sheriff's offices have needed to be harassed by activist groups to process licenses and permits since the 'roni. I should be hitting PA soon, but the rental market is too hot from the city exodus and the eviction hold. I have been wanting a correction for years now, but I'm seeing exactly how much desolation there could be coming. I'm at least uncertain with where all of this economic activity is coming from...

>>20280832
Dog bless, finance frog.

>>20280739
Yeah, there wasn't any safety regulations where I was working. The worst I was exposed to regularly was phenol, but some of the guys were cutting beryllium, I noped the fuck out of that job.

>>20280739
Go ahead. Tell me everything is just like last time faggot.

Now, the printer stays on yearly. Your rate of gains in stocks and real estate will crash against reality in flames.

>>20280872
that's awesome! I have a feeling it's not US, but if it was "you may be entitled to compensation"

So.. you guys are buying silver only to trade it for gold somewhere down the road?

>>20280875
nope, this is something entirely new. It's not going down like before.

but if fiat collapses the US at least is just going back to a new fiat. Nobody wants to go back to the economy of 1964 or even worse, 1933

>>20280393
It's okay bro. I hate those antagonistic posters too.
1. They're annoying
2. They're simply wrong. There's literally no risk to PMs
And I think they're gonna feel pretty stupid soon when all their money and shitcoin and whatever stocks they have become worthless in about a year
I could be wrong but I doubt it.

And if stackers are wrong it just means we lose maybe a few hundred dollars because of lower than average spot price (really doubt even that will happen) if people who don't stack are wrong however it could mean their whole livelihood is destroyed

>>20280872
guys i worked with at Spanish Mountain Gold got seriously ill due to some different chemical the company was putting on the core to stop it breaking down. It was like a varnish. Even with the vents on full the logging room was basically unusable because of it. Yet another reason I am glad I stopped working there.

> >10oz Stackless Virgin
> 10-50oz Stacklet
>50-200oz Rookie stacker
>200-500oz Stacker
>500-1500oz Veteran stacker
>1500-2500oz Heroic stacker
>2500-4000oz Ludicrous stacker
>4000oz+ Future Warlord

Where you guys at, what price do you see silver in 5 years? I'll start

> Heroic stacker
> I don't see silver measured in USD in 5 years.

>>20280875
>Your rate of gains in stocks and real estate will crash against reality in flames.
also true. But that will be temporary and most here won't sell and lock in any gains. What are they going to sell in, crashed fiat? kek

>>20280701

To ask about this is really to ask about FedCoin, since the govt is the org that could pull this off. Any FedCoin will be Uncle Sam wearing Bitcoin's skin after murdering it via targeting the exchanges and threatening to prosecute users, but of course will bear little difference from current digital dollar transactions beyond being even shittier.

They will never... I mean, fucking NEVER issue a currency that gives you more privacy or them less control over it. Govt exists to expand its own power. The bureaucrats who run shit simply couldn't comprehend the idea of relinquishing control, they believe it is their wise governance that saves the proles from themselves and they can't process any other reality.

>>20280906
Rookie stacker.
Will upgrade to stacker/veteran stacker very soon.

>>20280906
I won’t feel I’ve truly graduated from stacklet until 100oz silver and 1oz gold. Maybe even 150oz silver and 1.5oz gold.

This is all subjective of course, but only at three figures or more does a stack really represent a significant store of value.

>>20280948
What do you think the price will be in 5 years?

>>20280902
>There's literally no risk to PMs
Sorry fren, but you are wrong. There's a very real risk... to end up being FILTHY RICH.

>>20280906
Just Upgraded to Veteran stacker.

>>20280902
>There's literally no risk to PMs
opportunity cost is absolutely a huge risk to PM, but from what I can tell, the risk is overstated and overestimated.

>>20280906
Rookie. Silver in 5 years will be available as paper only and unable to be redeemed if it hasn't been converted already to Treasury USD.

>>20280970
from what i've gathered, 200oz silver and 2-10 oz gold is around where most tend to cool off a bit.

>>20280973
have literally no idea.

>>20280902
>There's literally no risk to PMs
I've never said they're risky

I've said they're not nearly risky enough.

no risk, no reward. /pmg/ wants something for nothing. That's a really extremely super long shot. incredibly unlikely. It happens all the time, but the odds of you guys calling it are so absurdly slim it's not even worth considering.

>>20280901
>>20280915
>Your right, but Gold isn't going to go up
So you're just a shill, noted. All fiats systematically fail, and as they do Gold rises(even if it takes years). It's happened every time in history, historical stock market data shows PMs moon in these situations (2008, 1970s, 1933), but your best argument is
>nah, not gonna happen man
If you took a leveraged bet on Gold after 2008, you became a wealthy man, and it was only the word of the Fed on stopping QE and normalizing rates the Gold stopped.

Now we know the Fed are factual liars, and you'd be a 1st grade retard to keep your wealth in fiat, with over inflated stocks coming in to a close 2nd.

>>20281000
I agree with you that the moonshot people are probably being overly optimistic.

But almost certain 3% annual gains, total control over your assets and total insurance against a financial crisis is a pretty good combo in an investment with essentially no barriers and low risk, especially in these times.

>>20280867
PA is awesome. I like the central part of the state. I live 9 minutes from new hope PA. It’s full of fags there unfortunately.

>>20281016
>Your right, but Gold isn't going to go up
I've said over and over that gold is guaranteed to go up against fiat.

I've just said that won't make you rich.
>If you took a leveraged bet on Gold after 2008, you became a wealthy man
dead on

leveraged is the key there. Increase the risk and increase the possible reward. Physical bullion in my basement can't be leveraged unfortunately

>>20280992
>200oz silver, 2.6oz gold
that's where I am.
what do you think I should do next?
more gold? more silver? other investments?

>>20281025
>But almost certain 3% annual gains,
I suspect that just represents real inflation.

I'm self-employed, my wages go up far more than 3% per year and I'm getting less purchasing power, not more. The feds understate inflation is all.

if we want to get rich we need to do better than that. Unless you guys have no expenses, which I suspect is the case. But mommy won't live forever and when she dies the bank gets her house, not anonymous racists on 4chan that actually oozed from her stinky cooze..

>>20280533

I mean, if you can consistently pick individual assets doing returns like that congrats on that skill but most don't have it.

Most investors who are not day traders are better off riding the big waves. For the last few years that's been market index funds, and they've done fine with that in the last decade.

Take a look at pic related and tell me we're on track to 2000 as opposed to 1980.

Assets are dropping relative to money, history suggests where and when they will hit bottom, at which point pursuing returns via those assets will again make sense.

>>20281134
>if you can consistently pick individual assets doing returns like that congrats on that skill but most don't have it.
I can't

I used to be able to pick penny stocks with regular fluctuations but that was in the 1990's before automation.

now I don't have a chance, and neither do most people.

I own and operate businesses. Much more risky, much higher reward. But I have a much larger control over the outcomes. Not the markets, I can't control those. But my choices are get rich, get by, or go bankrupt. None of those are bad options and a third of them are extremely good.

>>20281078
For a rich fag you seem to be spending your Saturday evening posting on an anonymous anime board.

Don’t you have like 10,000 lawns to mow or something?

>>20281078
Alright, but doesn’t what you’re saying only emphasize the importance of a PM or other hard asset safety net? If inflation really is that bad, most “soft” assets denominated in US dollars are going down in value. Obviously well-performing stocks are still on balance in the black and so are well-performing cryptos, but they’re still not assets in the same way PMs are.

Again, I mostly agree with you, but with the caveat that building up a minimum of savings before really investing heavily in anything remotely speculative is probably still a good idea. What that minimum is is something there has is and always will be arguments about ($1000? $2000? $5000? 10,000? 50oz? 100oz? 200oz?) but most people agree savings of some kind are essential.

I don’t think anyone ITT is unconditionally opposed to the idea of buying anything other than PMs.

>>20281181
lol no.

but I do have to go fuck the wife.
I'll be back in 2.5 minutes or so

>>20281026
>It’s full of fags there unfortunately
duly noted. Glad to know there are some friends in arm's reach. I've been scouting out Bucks for a while now, but i might end up sticking near mercer.

>>20281068
I'm under 30 and earn under the average wage. Not so sure I'm qualified to say anything, but if you don't have an exposure to miners, I might suggest looking into that. I have a bit of overexposure to SILJ, especially considering my physical position, but I'm looking to swap it over to GOLD, NEM, and other majors as well as industrial metals over time.

>>20281078
>if we want to get rich we need to do better than that.
To anons reading, there's truth to these posts. Among the best investments right now are going to be investments in yourself and your ability to add value, probably commodities and especially silver, and any consumables that don't expire quickly like medicines or hygiene products.

>>20281045
Being rich is relative and depends on your initial capital. But saying gold is low reward is simply not true. Should we remind you 1oz of gold was $250 in the early 2000's? Compare it to the now $1800 pricetag. It's a +720% return on investment. You consider this low reward for a no risk investment?

>>20281078
Real inflation is around 6/7%.

>>20281209
ah, and essentials + bullets.

>>20281214
>You consider this low reward for a no risk investment?
gold has outperformed stocks by a wide for margin for the entirety of the 21st century.

>>20281233
spource

so i was gonna edit the pastebin a bit but it looks like i gotta make a new paste to do so

>>20281209
>Glad to know there are some friends in arm's reach.
Feelings mutual anon.

May or may not have milled out some 80% AR’s while things have been heating up. Regardless just like my silver they fell of my boat.

Both are good picks. You’ll like it I have no doubt. Also not a bad place to be once things start to fall apart.

>>20281274
literally just put gold vs the s&p on a graph since 2000.

>>20281293
Boy, do I love boating! Thanks for the reassurance. Maybe i'll re-scope hunterdon and somerset.

>>20281320
>inb4 FAGMAN only

>>20281187
>Alright, but doesn’t what you’re saying only emphasize the importance of a PM or other hard asset safety net?
absolutely but if you have nothing to protect ALL you have is a safety net
>but with the caveat that building up a minimum of savings before really investing heavily in anything remotely speculative is probably still a good idea.
again right on,

my only musings relate to people that think their savings account or safety net will make them rich. That's not what savings or hedges usually do, and it's pretty unlikely.

not impossible. But pretty freakin unlikely

>>20281214
>It's a +720% return on investment. You consider this low reward for a no risk investment?
yes of course

the reasoning is tautological, but gold didn't increase at all if we measure fiat against gold. All that happened is fiat went down. Which is true against any asset or commodity or good.

>>20278722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcDgGqZP4mE
The True Believer has returned and is better than ever

>>20278898
hot damn i want a 1911 so badly..

>>20281233
>gold has outperformed stocks by a wide for margin for the entirety of the 21st century.
not for the entirety, but yes. For the first 4 years it certainly did.

it gained enough in 4 years to beat stocks for 20. But you were in diapers then and you'll probably be in diapers again next time it happens.

>>20278748
Based. Do you have the extended mags for that?

How much should mercury dimes go for, saw an offer for 50 mercantile for $100 and I’m to tired to do the math. Is $2 a pop legit?

>>20280681
Buy in decagrams every time I turn a decent profit you mean? I can do that, or maybe just wait until I can buy in full on ounces?

It's strange, I just bought and held in crypto and was able to make more money doing that than swinging stocks. Fucked up times

>>20281233
also worth noting that gold was higher in 1980 than it is now

it's not a linear progression for either stocks or commodities.

>>20281706
I feel like MTG cards started getting posted after I linked that Rudy video... was this always a pmg thing?

Apparently cards are still skyrocketing. Specifically sealed packs/boxes

>>20281578
We have our current lifestyles. On my wages I get go be a degen on the weekends with a little spare cash to enjoy under normal circumstances. Life isnt grand but it's mostly comfy. How can you look at the state of things and think it's not worth having a safety net even if we have no massive wealth to protect? I have no faith at all that crypto/real estate are going to perform well where we're headed. What does that leave? Instead of contemptuous and vague advice why dont you give us actionable info? Idk man it sounds like youve more or less made it but youre spending your saturday night being a total asshole to strangers on the internet? I just dont get it.

>>20281753
Its the same trip faggot from the last couple weeks. He dropped the trip, but maintains the same autism where he can't keep himself from replying, and makes up 1/4 of the posts in each thread, because he can't reply to more than one person at a time with his attention span. You can tell its him because bringing up his domestic violence charge triggers him, and he always claims to make tons of money off vague investments and jobs he knows nothing about.

Also, he literally owns no PMs, and has never posted a stack in all this time.

>>20281753
>it sounds like youve more or less made it but youre spending your saturday night being a total asshole to strangers on the internet? I just dont get it.
there you go

I'm interested in the thought processes, not the outcomes. In the years I've lurked /biz/ I've seen complete fucking retards become multimillionaires overnight and I've seen wise people lose everything. That interests me. I've seen a loser president actually get elected and I've seen a sure bet lose. This is cherry picking, but it has happened and I've seen it. The odds interest me, and so do contrarians that bet against the odds and win.

I don't give real advice because nobody here wants it nor should they. I didn't get wealthy in 2017 when I could've. Why would you ever take my advice?

>>20281798
I've never tripped on /biz/ or any other board, I don't know how.

you're paranoid

>>20281177

Succeeding at business is just another way of getting very high returns which most people cannot reliably do, like picking that 100% return stock. And you didn't answer my question.

Meanwhile, any fool can follow the macro trends, and those trends say assets are generally falling relative to gold. So stack, wait for the assets to be cheap in gold, sell it when DJI/SPX/Real Estate is below below 1/2 of its current value in gold and looks to be bottoming. The same play that made many people rich in the 1970's.

Ultimately, that ratio DJI/GOLD measures one thing very well: confidence. In government, in central banks, in their fiat currencies. What would you say are the odds of those things going up vs down in the 2020's?

Unless you can to present a scenario by which those go up, that line (DJI/GOLD) goes down, and sensible people should keep stacking because that's what the odds favor.

>>20281875
>most people cannot reliably do
I outlined the options
succeed, crab, or go bankrupt. None of these is a poor outcome. One of them is very good. You don't have to get rich reliably, once is usually enough. But people that do it once tend to do it over and over.

>sensible people should keep stacking because that's what the odds favor.
agreed. Shit is about to hit the fan and stacking is a great idea. It's just not likely to make anyone rich

>>20281753
>youre spending your saturday night being a total asshole to strangers on the internet?
I mean technically I've signed two government contracts increasing my net worth by ~$50k, invoiced 2 clients, fired of an email to a client, gotten laid, drank half a pint of Jack, put in 2 bids on ebay for collectibles I hope to flip, and got my work truck loaded for tomorrow's shift at the salt mines.

but I multitask. It's necessary. Even on Saturdays.

>>20281798
He doesn’t even know what a 5oz silver coin is

>>20281729
No. If I remember right mercs melted are worth 1.16$ or something. The premiums are ridiculous and they can be had for around 80$ for 5$ face value

mfw

>>20282042
Pretty sure I got the tripfag you're talking about b&

>>20281858
>>20281870
>>20281914
>>20282027
>>20282058
Yeah, bro. The 5 distinct rambling posts back to back don't look like someone we know at all. Totally not a wife beating poorfag degenerate with $40 dollars of JEETcoin to his name.

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Anyway, where are stacks anons I want to see shiny things today. My magpie senses are tingeling

>>20282106
it's fine if that's what you want to believe

I'm pretty sure verbose autistic types that drink too much and respond to themselves aren't a rarity on this board or any other.

but if you wander back down memory lane you may recall that I said I regularly report racism and anti-semitism. While he regularly posted racism and anti-semitism. Now he's missing and I'm still here.

it's a complete mystery to a moron like yourself, but maybe someone here can explain.

>>20282106
Oh yeah, it's him. Nobody else has this much stuttering insecurity except the orange man himself.

>>20282178
if you mistake me for a racist anti-semite that hates me that just makes things a bit easier.

>>20281000
All financial investment sources atm are far too risky imo
The world economy is coming to a screeching halt. California, Texas, Florida, all on the verge of big lockdowns. Once that happens I believe the US economy is gonna snap, similar to how it did a few months ago but this time with no recovery because investors will know now that it isn't gonna be a slight pause like they all hoped for but a new precedent

>>20282241
yeah, this is a whole new shitstorm

even the 'safe' investments of commodities might tank. I don't know man, this is something I've never seen before and nobody alive has.

>>20282266
This is the only good post I have ever seen you make! Well done. Now go back to beating your wife and dog and leave us alone.

>>20282287
just got done fucking the wife, it'll confuse her if I beat her now

>>20279122
>don't take a chance at summoning them
you fucked it up by even saying that. From now on just post beautiful stacks, talk about what you're looking forward to getting, what you sold recently, how much you spend on PM's a month, whatever. But ya'll gotta quit getting into retarded arguments with "poltards" who have probably never ever even SEEN an ounce of silver.
>>20279031
if you do not carry at least one cyber round with you, you are not going to make it. after the collapse I will be asking everyone I meet if they are a cyber friend or not, anyone not carrying a cyber round will be sold into slavery or made into a wife. so don't forget your cyber rounds friend! any man with a cyber round can join me and the brothers in paradise!

>>20282420
>But ya'll gotta quit getting into retarded arguments with "poltards" who have probably never ever even SEEN an ounce of silver.
I report poltards and I sell silver. So your advice works less than half the time.

keep reporting /pol/ and buying PM's though.. That puts you on my side every time.

>>20282420
I gotta get more of these rounds they are like cyber poker chips. You convinced me to move one to the carry stack, my friends got a kick out of it when I told them it was the same company that makes the beers. Wondering what its gonna look like tarnished now.

>>20282481
I've been fucking with mine waiting to see what it looks like after it's been tarnished. I'll post result eventually.

>>20280906
>Heroic Stacker
5 years is a bit short for that. We'll definitely be in the triple digits by then. I'm expecting silver to return to monetary status around 2030-35.

im goi gto sell some yugioh cards and mtg card aany one know some really good cards i should look for,does anyo ewant any?

speaking of tarnishing, does anyone know the best way to clean mercury dimes? my wife is autistically bitching about how bad they look.

>>20282449
the kike relieves himself

>>20279122
who is that?

>>20282524
It's a really bad idea to clean coins since it greatly affects numismatic value. However, if you must, I would recommend the following:

1. Dip the coin in acetone
2. Wash with soap and water
3. Use a soft toothbrush and acetone
4. Use a soft toothbrush and soat and water

Beyond that, you're looking at silver polish or other things that will wipe out a lot of numismatic value. You have junk silver so it's almost certain that they have very little numismatic value but be aware that for a very valuable coin, the difference between a cleaned coin and an uncleaned coin can be 10x or so.

>>20282631
I should clarify that the four things I wrote aren't steps; they're options. Option 1 is the one least likely to affect numismatic value and option 4 is the one most likely to affect numismatic value.

>>20282631
>>20282640
I don't care at all about numismatic value. I buy stuff because I like the way it looks and it preserves the money I have when shit falls apart.

>>20282524
just get a plastic tupperware and fill with 1-3 cups of white vinegar, then toss in those dimes give em a light shake and let them soak overnight. You won't believe the results.

>>20282721
OK. Brasso will do a bang-up job making the silver as shiny as a mirror, then.

>>20282532
I'm Scots Irish, a descendant of both Robert the Bruce and the current british royal family. But also a meaningless american descendant of poor irish immigrants.

but when you complain of jews you complain about capitalism.

you want to be a capitalist, but you want everyone smarter than you disqualified from the game. Guess what, you'll still wind up working for me or someone just like me.

because your problem isn't that you weren't born a jew. It's that you were born stupid.

>>20281701
only counting from 2004 onward gold and stocks are tied.
and the only reason why stocks caught up with gold was because of QE.

>>20282786
nepotism and destroying host nations isn't being smart.
it's being a parasite.

>>20282788
yep. we can pick scenarios anywhere from 1975 on to produce different narratives.

my favorite is when gold bugs point to 1975 prices of $35 per ounce as the starting point to show almost 100 times gain despite price fixing up until 1975.

Gold may outperform stocks. I'd bet good money gold will outperform stocks over the next 3-5 years.

there are other options out there though. ask a boomer I guess.

seriously guys?

>>20282816
business has no moral judgment, only legal ones. And even then only if you'll get caught.

don't be retarded. In business you WANT to be the jew. Or what you think of as the jew.

>>20282847
seriously

>>20282847
let me know when 4chan makes a rule against posting too much

until then suck my balls

>48 posts by this id
How insecure are you?

>>20280906
>will be warlord status if silver stays cheap for two more years

Feels good man.

>>20282914
I prefer to be called passionate, but whatever

how insecure are you, postlet?

>>20282831
>my favorite is when gold bugs point to 1975 prices of $35 per ounce as the starting point to show almost 100 times gain despite price fixing up until 1975.
if prices were fixed before 1975 why the fuck would they include gold prices before 1975?
it's impossible to see gains if the price is fixed hence doing the gold vs stock comparison before 75 doesn't make any sense.
if stocks were that good instead of gold then they would be outperforming gold. they don't. deal with it.

>>20282786
bigger you are that kike.you use the same plebbit isms,you say that not liking jews is anti capitalist.i also doubt your irish,your probibly just a larping faggot.remember when you braged about having a multi million dollar bssness and said you happily fuck with your employis wages?you think we don't know what your doing?you think we like you?get over your self faggot

>>20282931
impressive

you have enough silver there to hire 10 strong men for almost a week. Truly going to take over the world.

>>20282853
>business has no moral judgment, only legal ones.
spoken like the jew

>>20282853
>In business you WANT to be the jew.
no i don't faggot

>>20282945
>why the fuck would they include gold prices before 1975?
why not? it makes gold look incredible.
>>20282950
my employees make more in an hour than you make in a week, so it's relative.

>>20282935
>postlet?
nigger your going to grow old and bitter if you don't just end up offing yourself

>>20282964
ngmi

>>20282853
and that mentality is precisely why the US is fucked.
and also, if jews were to stick to doing their business only that would be ok, but they don't just stick to managing their companies, do they?

>>20282931
based floor stacker. soon gonna be calling you floor of the castle stacker".

>>20282971
>why not? it makes gold look incredible.
so? it's reality.
what period would you choose?
one that makes stocks look better, right?

>>20282979
>nigger your going to grow old and bitter if you don't just end up offing yourself
lol

I'm already old and bitter. What the fuck do you imagine you're dealing with?

I'm you in 30 years, $10,000,000 and 70 IQ points

>>20282993
>one that makes stocks look better, right?
whatever you like. It doesn't actually matter.

but if you compare 1980 to now it's literally nothing. Nothing has happened in 40 years. But it sortof depends when you buy in and when you sell, right?

>>20282971
so it is you nigger?i hope kek destroys you and all the other kike fags

53 posts now. still hasn't said anything meaningful. still hated and despised by everyone. still pretending to be a big dicked millionaire with 400 IQ points. it would be incredibly annoying, except it's becoming extremely sad. this is why you have to keep stacking guys, you DO NOT want to end up old, bitter, and stackless like this poor faggot.

>>20282986
business also doesn't care about nationality

or religion
or gender
or favorite seafood

you guys are fucking idiots.

>>20283029
56

>>20282984
be original

>>20282986
this

>>20282997
wrong i have a large family and cousins.i have friend.unlike you there ate people who like and care about me

>>20283034
>business also doesn't care about nationality
>and that mentality is precisely why the US is fucked
if your companies are actively destroying your country, you have a problem.
you talk like a stupid boomer.
go suck some circumcised jewish dick, boomer.

>>20283029
kek>>20283049 just admitted to being a sad poor fag who no one likes

>>20283063
>if your companies are actively destroying your country, you have a problem.
my companies work for my country, but even if they didn't it wouldn't matter

pajeet scamming /biz/ is still making more than you, no? Money doesn't care about nations.

>>20283049
Why is this guy banned yet? He comes here everyday and shits up thread.

>>20283083
money is not the end all be all of life dumbass

>>20283083
and that mentality is precisely why the US is fucked.
you're a foreskin eater, aren't you?

>>20283093
he has admitted he can change his ip,and that he does it to get past filters

>>20283093
>Why is this guy banned yet?
I'm assuming it's because I'm talking about PM's even if you don't like what I say. I could be wrong.
>>20283097
I never said it was

I said if you hate jews for valuing money you hate /biz/, capitalism, and the american way

>>20283108
We can test that theory.

>>20283104
>and that mentality is precisely why the US is fucked.
I agree

but while I'm agreeing I'm planning my next trip to honduras to dive reefs and fuck natives.

you on the other hand agree while drinking stale milk from a 1970's trailer fridge.

These threads used to be a lot of fun, but damn, they are getting kind of annoying.
Can we post some stacks and talk about silver? Do you guys buy any coins for purely numismatic/emotional value? I have a ton of wheat pennies I collected as a kid that are literally worthless, but I keep because they remind me of simpler times. I also keep this Iraqi funny money to remind me of an old friend.

Guys just stop responding to him. Don't make snarky posts where you talk about him without directly replying either just ignore him completely.

>>20283114
literally what?
how can someone be so intellectually disgusting?
I doubt anyone here wants to make money to then use that money to destroy his own country.
you're a jew, aren't you?

>>20283119
sure, testing

>>20283114
>I said if you hate jews for valuing money you hate /biz/, capitalism, and the american way
the american way is not selling your country for pleasure.the american way is not selling the future generations away for money you dumb fucking nigger.

the american way is if you have nothing you can work to better your life and the lives of your family nogger,the american way is teaching your kids how to make it and helping them if you can.the american way is thinking about your grandchildres grand childrens.

god when i think of all the sub humman shit you faggot kikes and your boomers,blue haired,and nigger cattle are doing to this country it makes most americans fucking angry you dumb faggot kill your self

>>20283138
>how can someone be so intellectually disgusting?

When are you guys gonna realize that you can just ignore him and save this general?
He'll probably peter off in a couple weeks though so it's not a big deal

>>20283114
>I'm assuming it's because I'm talking about PM's

Read your last 50 posts again. You talk about business being generaly better investment than pm's. That is an off topic. If you want to talk about business start new thread instead of raiding ours. Both raiding and offtopic are banable.

>>20283119
hes changed ids ive seen it firts hand but i will test it to

>>20283152
>the american way is not selling your country for pleasure.the american way is not selling the future generations away for money
when I take, someone else must give.

when I give to my grandkids I take from yours

>>20283122
I'm European so.. no? And I've had my fair share of vacations in tropical countries. Not worth destroying my country because of them. But then again, I'm not a parasite like you.
Also
>reddit spacing
go back, faggot.

>>20280469
Opportunity cost isn't real risk though

>>20283134
yes im thinking about getting some dino rounds but the only place that has good looking ones are gsm but its copper,so...

>>20283135
sorry anon ,i know better,but hes just such a faggot.but i also think that this kind of stuff needs to be called out for what it is so more people don't fall victim to it

>>20283176
I'm not destroying my country

the selfishness actually makes us stronger. But you know, jews or whatever. /pol/ is too stupid to make money or run countries.

>>20283188
>his kind of stuff needs to be called out for what it is so more people don't fall victim to it
that's exactly what I'm doing

saving newbs from your retarded silver fantasies.

redpill me on Fort Knox
is it really empty?

>>20283181
>but its copper
well like I said, we all buy stuff that only has emotional value sometimes. I own some copper rounds too. I bought some for the year of the rat to give to my son when he turns 18, along with a Batboi of course.

>>20280739
>I mostly laugh at the idea of societal collapse
Lol you're sure gonna feel dumb pretty soon
>inb4 lengthy paragraph about how in the past people thought society was gonna collapse but it never did
Society never collapses... you know until it does

>>20283122
>but while I'm agreeing I'm planning my next trip to honduras to dive reefs and fuck natives.
probably a larp but if not:digits and the natives dismember you when they find out how much of a piece of shit you are

>>20283212
>Lol you're sure gonna feel dumb pretty soon
nah it's going to collapse

the comical part is anons thinking it's going to be built back 100 years ago instead of just like it was before the collapse

>>20283209
where did you get ur copper rounds?i have some friends who might like a couple coper rounds

>>20282266
Now you're starting to get on the right page
Idk what's with boomers and thinking everything's gonna stay the same as it was for the last 50 odd years they just happened to reside in

>65/291
J U S T

>>20283219
I'm actually married so I don't get to fuck many natives.

I have no doubt they'd like to kill me if they weren't busy working for me though. Just like /pmg/ and the 'jews' they despise.

>random bullshit and redditspacing
>it's the jews
>no anime or stacks
>no really, it's the jews, that's why the rich steal from the poor and nations rise and fall
>not even any good charts
You niggers belong on /bant/, not this board. Not even /pol/. Maybe /b/.

>>20283119
No it's true, I'm pretty sure he's the same guy that deliberately fucks up some other threads I visit.

Some of you retards are insistent on replying to an autistic troll, why?

You guys want to know a better way to lose an entire weekend worth of productivity?
For fun coins and bills and such:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Numismatics
For learning about currencies, debasements, crises, inflations, deflations, reserve currencies, etc., All relevant to many of our reasons for gravitating to PM:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Money

>>20283207
I used to think that, but USA can print money so I guess they can afford to buy all the gold they want. Fort knox might be empty but I bet USA has stockpiles of gold like no other country. Printing dollars has it's perks.

>>20283236
>Now you're starting to get on the right page
I've always been on the right page. You're just beginning to realize it

>>20283239
>I'm actually married so I don't get to fuck many natives.
you are a fucking degenerate

>>20283252
thanks for the links anon

>>20283257
indeed

what is your plan if you ever get wealthy?

assuming you lose your moral prissyness

>>20283207

my guess is fort knox has gold, although how much is a mystery.

people who say it's empty need to remember that the u.s. closed the gold window when other countries, especially france, tried to take delivery. since that time, the u.s. hasn't had much trouble selling their debt, so why would the gold be gone?

>>20283272
i will not you sub humman faggot,i am not of weak will and genes as you are

>>20283286
high test is apparently strong genes

moral continence is biologically weak

>>20283229
I wanna say I got mine at Provident Metals, but I can't totally remember anymore, they were having a sale on something else and I needed to round it up to get free shipping or something like that. they are very pretty and make great gifts.

>>20283281
what would happen id=f it was emptied and the population found out?would there be a run on pms?do normal fags think we still are backed by pms?

>>20283269
no prob!
Hope to see if any anons return with any interesting findings

>>20283293
ok thanks anon.yes copper is a pretty metal.is there a relibal site to check the price per ounce becasue the ones i found are hard to get the ounce price at just looking and not having to divid

>>20283229
Since buying copper is completely ridiculous as an investment anyway in the first place, you are free to be totally indulgent and buy only for A E S T H E T I C S only.

I really like these:

https://www.muenzeoesterreich.at/eng/produkte/10-euro-copper-coins

>>20283315
it's worth so little per ounce there isn't even really a reason to track. it's usually abut 2 bucks a pound.

>>20283315
dividing by 16 is hard

you'd almost need a calculator

luckily nobody irl buys or sells copper by the oz

>>20283134
A bit of both actually, I also like coins that have a historic value

>>20283225
If you think it's gonna collapse or even have the slightest inkling that a recession is coming or imo more likely another great depression
Then how can you possibly say silver or PMs arent a great idea?
It's literally the best possible way I can think of to preserve your wealth and prepare for the coming economic hard times
What else is there?
Land? Even that seems like a big risk with the alleged incoming housing bubble pop
PMs seem like the greatest possible thing you can do with your money right now
Sure stocks or some other investments might be a better idea for the next couple months, but do I want to risk cashing out too late? At a time like this? No thanks

>>20283134
We’re still fun fren ;_;

>>20283371
>Then how can you possibly say silver or PMs arent a great idea?
show me where I said that

I've repeatedly said they ARE a great idea.

at least in the short term. They're just not going to make anyone rich. Stocks and real estate have made people rich. I don't know if they will keep doing that but they have.

remember everyon

hide kike posts
ignore kike poster
do not respond to kike poster

>>20283429
Im pretty sure you literally were just telling people that theyre dumb for stacking silver and not investing in something else and
>muh opportunity cost
And blah blah blah
But that line of thinking simply doesn't apply anymore
The time for putting your money into stocks and reaping profit is quickly disappearing
Now is the time to save as much as you can and minimize all risks
Investing in anything else seems like a terrible idea right now imo
Unless you invest in a business your dead certain Is still gonna be around during a great depression like economy I'd say don't do anything with your extra money except buying essentials and buying pms
That's what I'm gonna do

That and stockpiling guns and ammo ofc

>>20283470
>Is still gonna be around during a great depression like economy
what bisnusses will still be around?

>>20283470
>that line of thinking simply doesn't apply anymore
depends

after everything goes to shit and markets collapse and then we start it all up again, do you think we'll base our economy on metals which a bunch of nazis bought or paper which the other 99.999999999% of the world trades?

/pmg/ is calling a very long shot thinking metals will outperform fantasy paper when literally everyone alive is betting on paper. It might happen but it's extraordinarily unlikely. A fool's bet.

>click arrow
>filter
>unique ID
>refresh page
was that so hard? Dont let this fag derail every /pmg/ thread.

New bread when?

>>20283354
those are absolutely beautiful. good taste friend!
>>20283408
love my PM stacking bros, just get tired of the retards sometimes.

>72 posts
>323 posts in the whole thread
yep /pmg/ is dead. and to think how long it was comfy before yesterday evening

>>20283521
I've been posting here for literal years.

I'll probably be posting here years after you're gone.

>>20283509
i will bake

>>20283549
let someone else do it.

I can't tell you why

>>20283599
new
>>20283599

>>20283599

>>20283508
>do you think we'll base our economy on metals which a bunch of nazis bought or paper which the other 99.999999999% of the world trades?
Strawman
No I don't think that'll happen what I think will happen is that gold and silver will become 100s if not 1000s times worth more in dollars and most if not all global currencies
That will be thanks to inflation
You don't need some sort of reversion back to gold backed dollars for that to happen
It'll happen just as easily in our current fiat system

>>20283681
money illusion

a decrease in the value of fiat isn't an increase in the value of a commodity

just because the value goes up in dollars doesn't mean it went up in bread or blowjobs

Trust your guts no matter what the popular opinion is. Popular opinion is trash, most here probably looked at China when they shut down and knew it was going to happen to us. The media can tell us 2+2=5 all day and most idiots will eat it up, takes guts to go against the grain.