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>Bullion dealers
https://www.apmex.com/
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://www.bgasc.com/
https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.providentmetals.com/
https://www.silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://www.sprottmoney.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://www.kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://www.coinflation.com

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://www.kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://www.mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo
Magnets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA
https://www.youtube.com/user/GoldAndSilverClub1
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCED7G7CZfqdSV9zttlr1M_g
https://www.youtube.com/user/belangp

Additional /pmg/ resources and info--
https://pastebin.com/8HW6EdGt

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>> No.20160386

FWTDHWAHQUD status-- {reading about AG on fakebook}

>> No.20160395

When copypasting the OP, please remember to remove the "[embed]" otherwise they stack up.

>> No.20160408

previous >>20144975

>> No.20160426

>>20160377
I want to get into physical PMs but I am super paranoid about getting fucked. Is there any sure fire way to make sure i'm actually getting the metal I am buying or does everybody just accept some risk?

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>>20160426
When you're just starting out, best to stick to trusted dealers like the ones at the top of the OP list.
Avoid ebay, leddit, CL etc until you know what you're doing.
You can do the quick tests in the OP, use magnets, do gravity test, etc. There's also an app that does the ping test, so maybe get coins/rounds at first.
Do some research on the coins/rounds you're planning on buying, learn the common counterfeit "tells", look at
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
and
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

Most importantly, post pictures.
Good luck anon!

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>> No.20160542

>>20160426
weight scale index density test all in one.
Thats primarily for gold. Just buy silver at the reputable sources like in the OP. The refineries & shops that list their items on the major distributers almost all have a public & social media outlet which make them more transparent.

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>>20160553
>>20160568
>>20160583
fake bar is on the right side btw

>> No.20160615

>>20160553
>>20160568
>>20160583
Goodness who really fakes gold still...
Oh wait...Its always China?
Bizarre.

My local shop supposedly had a fake coin.
A friend told, but I wouldn't doubt it. Silver currently has a shortage too.

>> No.20160619

hello ,18 yo stacking virgin here,so is copper and dirty silver a good way to start stacking metals?also how do you pay taxes on the metals?

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>>20160619
copper is literal trash people buy it buy the ton
silver though, you might be on to something there

>> No.20160652

Thank you guys. My dad has been literally screaming at me to get into silver so im trying to learn everything I can as quickly as I can.

>> No.20160662

>>20160619
Dont stack copper unless you have free pipes & bricks being offered to you. Right now if you're going to start stacking avoid dirty coins & silver.

Just go to to the OP's links.
You can try going to your local pawn store, but most have been cleared out to where most big boss pawn shops aren't selling their remaining assets & in all honesty many pawn shops aren't going to be that trust worthy. I've only ever known 3 pawn shops to have actual ounces of silver or bars for that matter. I go to a lot of them & they're almost always selling "hobo art" or junk gold/silver.

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>>20160652
avoid ebay and reddit, some of the legitimate dealers will have ebay accounts, but most of the time they're more expensive.
the prices only go up these days... so hurry up anon buy that shiny rock

>> No.20160750

>>20160648
>>20160662
say if someone did get copper ,would it ever be worth anything in the future.
with dirty silver coins do you have to pay taxes like you do with pure silver?how are taxes done on metals.only when you buy it or ever year?

>> No.20160765

>>20160619
The only copper you should stack is pre-1982 (US) pennies because they are 100% copper and already are worth more than their FV. The only reason you should stack them is because it takes just a minute or two to shift through your change for them whenever you have change. It's all the fun of finding a little gift and stacking metal at the same time!

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>>20160377
HEAR YE HEAR YE,
i propose the following change to the OP that we remove the bullion dealers altogether. and just leave the informational links and the findbullionprices.com site
doing so will allow us ample space to add the status of the house wifes as well

>> No.20160819

>>20160765
will they ever actually be worth anything as copper and not just a penny?as a hypothetical in the world economy were to collapse ,would there be metals like copper and aluminum or other "junk" that would rise as the need for local manufacturing would rise?

>> No.20160831

>>20160819
so years ago, there was a bunch of hype over copper, its never going to be worth enough to not sell by the ton...

>> No.20160840

>>20160831
what was the copper hype?

>> No.20160846

>>20160810
I SECOND this message and humbly request that our stated goal be silver 1:3 to gold AND have that information be ENUMERATED in the OP
>>20160819
Probably not, but it's fun to stack and dream! Do check your change though, every once in a while an old silver coin crops up.

>> No.20160854

>>20160831
what are some other metals to stack besides gold and silver?that are actually valuable?

>> No.20160874

>>20160854
theres a great video about how theres only a few ores on the earth that aren't radioactive, silver and gold are 2 of them... so the other ones would make since but they won't moon it'd be more about having cool rocks...
i'll look for the vid

>> No.20160886

>>20160846
>Do check your change though, every once in a while an old silver coin crops up.
i have some change jars from my mom gave to me,so ill look through those.ive seen links and adds for dirty silver bags,and bulk buys are those real or just scams?

>>20160765
are there any valuable some what modern coins?

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>>20160886
Possibly real, possibly scams; just make sure you know which coins are which. Luckily, it's pretty easy to remember.

>> No.20160953

>>20160921
thank you for the pic anon do you have ones for other coins with less silver content,or other valuable coins?

>> No.20160963

>>20160854
platinum, palladium, and rhodium

>> No.20161016

>>20160750
You name it & copper probably does it.
Copper pots, cups, utensils, wiring, etc.
Things are going to have to be repaired & people will want to repair these things within a community, but the how to use the copper in making & repairs is a problem for most of society where we are hyper specialized.

I imagine copper in this aspect is not going to be highly valued within the first generation of collapse as scavenging will be the main source of reapplying. You go to a dump or scrapyard & these things will be wide spread still.

Dirty silver...
That applies to junk coins & many are still considered legal currency (Kenndey's, war dimes, war nickels), which are all heavily taxed. Things are getting weird with these being faked. Many people will know these coins, but that also means many fakes will continue to be made. I have kenndy's from 1964 because they're 90% silver. Many people here have these types of rounds but also non-taxed old silver currency.

Then there is used dirty silver rounds...
I for one bought a lot of used dirty silver when it was cheap. So far its been ok, but its come to my attention that buying new while its still around is going to be your best option starting off. Buying new means you're going to become more well acquainted with the items memorizing what you know for the future.
Also you get the opportunity to standardize really what you can trade & pay with.
Grab a few basic rounds of new silver in different increments

Grab a few types of 10 oz bars
Grab a 5oz rounds
Grab a 3oz bars
grab like 3 to 4 different silver sinlge round
grab like two different 1/2 oz rounds
grab two different 1/4 oz rounds

This is all contingent on what you're able to budget for & your place in life.
If you dont have a means of self defense, food, water, & storage than you may want to start this simultaneously.

If you're 18 than know you're starting off in the start of the end of a currency here. We're on the cuff of world wide civil wars & a global war

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>>20160426
I buy mostly from reputable dealers, but also sometimes from the Dutch version of Ebay (Marktplaats). The rule of thumb is: if it is to good to be true, it is.

To test the precious metal content in your coins you can use an app on your smartphone, for example: https://preciouscointester.com/en/
This app could tell the which one is silver in pic related.

>> No.20161154

>>20160426
Personally, I only buy local from reputable dealers and people who make their own pieces. This method is more expensive, however, due to premiums being disgustingly high on almost all in-person physical metal transactions. The upside is that you're supporting your local economy and bringing more physical metal directly to your area. You'll get closer to spot by shopping online, however.

>> No.20161163

>>20161154
*Local dealers, not reputable dealers
Jesus I'm tired.

>> No.20161505

>>20161163
>local dealers

Come on anon, just go up to a black guy on a street corner and ask if he has any pirate treasure, you might be surprised.

>> No.20161555

is $25/oz a good price to finish stacking? im thinking about stacking sovereigns until they hit 25, then rounds, then bars etc. is this stupid or not?

>> No.20161639

>>20161555
Your money is your energy transfered into paper by working. Those papera will soon lose all value. Park your energy somwhere else or lose it. Price is a meme.

>> No.20161729

>>20161555
listen to >>20161639
you're running out of time. if the market ends up somehow unfucking itself, go down to your local coin shop and sell some of your gold or silver. Precious Metals are basically just a savings account that the government can't randomly make worthless if they feel like it.

>> No.20161772

>>20161639
>Park your energy somwhere else or lose i
what did he mean by this?

>> No.20161896

>>20161772
>what did he mean by this?
you're storing your past work in a volatile house that will invariably make it worth less

what he doesn't understand is that:
1. the value of gold is also measured against that same volatile store, meaning it never really changes in value if it's used as a baseline metric
2. If the value of gold goes high enough or fiat goes low enough (which are actually the same thing), there are millions of tons of gold at the surface right now that people will go to work mining and refining
3. Idiots worry about the value of their past work, that's a poor person thought process Actual success stories worry about future worth compared to now, and look at leveraging an asset that keeps up with inflation while the loan is paid back in fiat that doesn't

/pmg/ isn't smart enough to understand this. Might as well explain rockets to a squirrel

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>>20161772
Paper money is like a battery holding human energy. Like all batteries it loses that storage capability with time. Soon our currencies will become dead bateries and all your energy will be gone. Put that energy in some other valuable items to preserve it. Spend your cash before banks spends your energy.

>> No.20161955

>>20161927
>all your energy will be gone.
it was gone the instant you spent it.

what we store isn't energy, it's a certificate in trade for past work. That work is already gone. What the certificate is worth won't change that.

not that it matters, if you store up all your work throughout your life minus necessities YOU WILL NEVER BE RICH.

it takes more than one person can make working to get rich. You have to find ways to earn or steal other people's energy. Finding a more efficient store of energy is the work of small minds that will never make it.

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hey /pmg/, my 20 coronas arrived. Needless to say I now feel the need to stack fractionals.
my shitty camera hates tiny coins though

>> No.20162030

>>20161896
so what should i do them what should i store work in?

>> No.20162099

>>20162030
anon you're fine. the world isn't ending, by January they'll have a vaccine for the wu flu, just plan sensibly and life will be good

>> No.20162137

>>20160426
If you buy from apmex it's extremely unlikely you'll get a fake and if you ever do find out that something you bought from them is a fake then they'll replace it or refund you
Their business depends on their reputation and they'll do anything they can to protect their reputation

>> No.20162154

>>20161927
soon the storage will be fully digital and these fundamentals need not apply

>> No.20162206

>>20162030
you shouldn't store work in anything

you should be harvesting other people's work in a way that doesn't require storing anything. This is business. The act of profiting off other people's work to the point that you no longer need to store it.

>> No.20162249

>>20162030
>>20162206
>you should be harvesting other people's work in a way that doesn't require storing anything

this is why precious metals are so popular with boomers. You literally shouldn't be storing past work until you're ready to exit the game and retire. Before that you should be increasing profit, not just storing it.

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SALE SALE SALE

>sale

hahahaha

>> No.20162294

>>20162275
better than most ads

I've reported at least 100 'businesses' on facebook in the last 3 days alone selling counterfeit ASE's for $9.99

>> No.20162331

>>20162294
facebook doesn't care, as long as they get money and aren't being sued

>> No.20162360

>>20162206
>you should be harvesting other people's work in a way that doesn't require storing anything. This is business. The act of profiting off other people's work to the point that you no longer need to store it.
i don't like your kike mentality ,i hope all of you get rapped by a pack of niggers

>>20162206
>>20162249
both of you kikes sound like you watched some Q-teir youtube videos and now act like you have the whole world figured out.instead of trying to be cool and cryptic give real examples.

>> No.20162370

>>20162331
I know, that's why I report the same ad 20 times a day with a different company name each time.

they don't care who buys ad space there.

>> No.20162395

>>20162360
>instead of trying to be cool and cryptic give real examples.
if I work all my life I might make a million dollars with my employer making another million

If I hire 10 employees for life and take half of what they make that's ten million dollars made.

there's only so much work you can do. It will never make you rich. To get rich you must find a way to put your hands in someone else's pockets.

>> No.20162409

>>20162360
>i don't like your kike mentality
I understand.

this is the biggest obstacle to financial success. Most people grow out of it by 40 and understand it's not stealing, you actually provide a valuable service for the people you're taking money from.

but you're young and stupid, and probably on the wrong board.

>> No.20162415

>>20162395
nice the kike is from reddit.kys faggot

>> No.20162423

>>20162409
>this is the biggest obstacle to financial success. Most people grow out of it by 40 and understand it's not stealing, you actually provide a valuable service for the people you're taking money from.
not what i said nigger you are delivery misrepresenting what i said,but since your a kike subversion is in your nature

>> No.20162428

>>20162415
I was spacing like that on 4chan before reddit existed

do you understand the irony of hating business while on a business board? It's not jews you fucking idiot, it's just capitalism.

>> No.20162436

>>20162423
please, tell me what a poor moron thinks of capitalism

>> No.20162464

>>20162395
>>20162409
this is literally a Marxist teenagers understanding, giving people jobs is not 'stealing' from them.

>> No.20162473

>>20162428
>I was spacing like that on 4chan before reddit existed
quit trying to defend your fagotry

>do you understand the irony of hating business while on a business board? It's not jews you fucking idiot, it's just capitalism.
spoken like a true kike when he is figured out

>>20162436
nigger kys,

>> No.20162489

monument metals has the aztec rounds and bars back in stock

>> No.20162499

>>20162489
>aztec rounds
when people say rounds do they mean like coins?

>> No.20162501

>>20162464
>giving people jobs is not 'stealing' from them.
that's exactly what I said.

helping people find work and then navigate the legal aspects of that work while taking on the risk of job loss or market collapse for them in exchange for half their earnings doesn't make someone a 'kike,' it just makes them a business person.

it's also one of the very few ways to make more money rather than just store it.

>> No.20162514

>>20162473
>on business board
>calling businesspeople jews
you're retarded, please keep in your thread. I'd hat to see the stupid leak out

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>>20161955
>what we store isn't energy, it's a certificate in trade for past work
Topic is: how to preserve energy you have stored in your dollars, not how to get rich. You watch too many yt videos about personal finance.

>> No.20162560

>>20162514
>calling businesspeople jews
never said that all were kikes ,i said that you have a kike mentality

>>20162501
>that's exactly what I said.
no its not you told me to not do anything to store wealth now and do it when im older after i got other people workig=ng for me.what happens if the economy collapes before that?you and your kike relatives will take the economy because you keep telling people to not proactivly store weath,kys and your kike ways.you are a slimy mother fucker and i see right through you

>> No.20162569

>>20162536
I own a business that makes an average of a million dollars a year gross. I could work my entire life and put all my excess into gold and IN MY ENTIRE LIFETIME I WON'T MAKE AS MUCH AS MY BUSINESS MAKES IN A YEAR.

Your plans are meaningless. You really need to be looking for ways to maximize energy, not just more efficient ways to store what you've got.

>> No.20162588

>>20162560
>what happens if the economy collapes before that?
oh no, he wants security!

lol risk is the name of the game, if you're too weak to handle risk you'll never get rich

>> No.20162593

>>20162569
>yes goyim don't store wealth for your famliy for a rainy day just keep faith in the system will be working when you get old

>> No.20162605

>>20162588
see
>>20162593

>> No.20162617

>>20162569
Sure, kiddo.

>> No.20162620

>>20162593
I've been in business 20 years, I've seen the system fail repeatedly. I recover every time because I know how to do that.

deal with it or stay poor.

>> No.20162636

>>20162620
i hope the world wakes up to your kikes ways soon,you disgusting peice of shit

>> No.20162646

>>20162617
I make more money shitposting in /pmg/ for a day than most of you will stack in a year.

you're aiming way too low. You need to be figuring out how to actually make more money, not just how to store it.

>> No.20162659

>>20162636
>i hope the world wakes up to your kikes ways soon,you disgusting peice of shit
literally just business, retard.

>> No.20162663

>>20162646
Cool, want a medal?

>> No.20162678

>>20162659
>oy vey they know

>> No.20162679

>>20162663
nope.

I want one of you to make it and then understand that I was right.

you're not all idiots, here. Some of you are smart enough to see the truth in what I say

>> No.20162698

>>20162678
>on /biz/
>hates business
kys /pol/

>> No.20162711

>>20162679
Then start your own thread about starting business. We are here to talk abou pm stacking.

>> No.20162719

>>20160840
the normies heard that modern US pennies arent made of actual cooper

>> No.20162721

>>20162698
>>on /biz/
>>hates business
i don;t hate business,faggot,this isn't even a business thread queer,i hate your plebbit spacing self important faggot ass

>> No.20162737

>>20162719
>the normies heard that modern US pennies arent made of actual cooper
and how did they react is that why they started buying copper?

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>>20160377
Precious Metal stackers report in

>> No.20162744

>>20162711
I am talking about stacking

I'm pointing out that it's an old person's game and you should be earning rather than storing when you're young.

the anon complained that fiat is too volatile a store while metals are less volatile. This is true, but ignores the larger picture. Younger people should be seeking more volatility for bigger rewards, not smaller.

>> No.20162790

>>20162721
>i don;t hate business,faggot,
you can't tell business from Judaism, you're too stupid to be here.

>> No.20162825

>>20162790
stupid kike we know your a kike stop trying to cover for your disgusting middle eastern nation

>> No.20162836

>>20162744
you make important points. but it is accepted that we are all out there already working in a career or business doing just what you are describing.
none if that has to be separated from stacking PMs on the side.
most here don't have 100% of there asset or earning portfolio dedicated to stacking. its a small percentage.
if you want to be angry and yell at people, go preach in the 600 crypto threads

>> No.20162839

ah spot is back at $18...I can keep buying

>> No.20162865

>>20162744
So you are a type of person that goes to night clubs to preach decency?

>> No.20162892

Anyone else have family members that call you crazy and to "Stop hoarding all of these coins. Its a waist of money"?

As much as I try to use the power of suggestion I'm not getting too far. I admit I have had to work on my approach on coercing & trying to guide someone to make them beleive they're the ones who came up with the solutions to problems, but the family seems to not want to hear from me most of the time & only after a major event happens is when they say "you were right, but we didn't listen", but they just keep repeating this over & over again.

>> No.20162895

>>20162744
>Younger people should be seeking more volatility for bigger rewards, not smaller.

Yeah, like investing in junior miners. /pmg/ isn't just about staking.

>> No.20162932

>>20162892
i stopped trying to convince people of anything. if they don't think they thought of it themselves or if they dont get the idea from someone they worship. then its like talking to a brick wall

>> No.20162940

>>20162836
>go preach in the 600 crypto threads
I learned in 2018 not to mock those fools. They're right more often than /pmg/ is.

>>20162895
I work for several of those miners, you're still thinking small. Safe, but small.

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>>20162940
>They're right more often than /pmg/ is.

>> No.20162974

>>20162744
>I'm pointing out that it's an old person's game and you should be earning rather than storing when you're young.
Your earnings will be gone in a matter of months to a year due to inflation. About 3/4th of whatever you have in the bank will be useless.

The "young" are subject to inflation & will soon be subject to a government that will push a cashless society on you where many will flat out refuse to go along with it & start bartering & trading along with exchange of gold & silver as the cash. We're talking maybe $30 - $50 am ounce of silver here bud.

Retailers will go bust on top of this.
Families will start their own businesses to provide services for the communities.

All the while after Trumps election, which we are going to have to fight tooth & nail for, we'll see wide spread mania of Christian persecution of which will target Catholicism. Its already starting. This entire thing was meant to launch a communist regime to ban Catholicism.

>> No.20163013

>>20162646
I stack to hedge against my annual pay rise not being above the true rate of inflation (which is never is). How else would you hedge against that?

>> No.20163014

>>20162940
>They're right more often than /pmg/ is.
right about what?

Dont forget, what goes on in these threads is largely pure shitposting, dont forget that.
and again, PM stacking is not "my business" or my job or where i intend to make money. we have actual jobs, businesses and careers where we are doing that.
it really sounds like your making some pretty big assumptions. i know this is /biz/, but cmon, /pmg/ is not about stackers making a business of stacking for daily earnings
this is coin and bullion collecting.

>> No.20163026

>>20162932
thanks anon.
I'm juat trying to reach out to see if there's a railing before going down those steps.

I more or less am listened to on other areas and welcomed into them, but its the fact that not many people understand what we're facing because nothing like this has been seen in U.S history & the only thing relatable to it is the great depression that was shrouded in false reasons as to why it happened.

>> No.20163029

>>20162973
I could've bought ETH under a dime in 2016. I didn't listen to the crypto morons because they're morons.

but morons can be right sometimes.

>>20162974
>Your earnings will be gone in a matter of months to a year due to inflation. About 3/4th of whatever you have in the bank will be useless.
yes, that's why I look at my future earnings, not my past.

my past money will evaporate. My future will continue to be larger than your stacks.
>This entire thing was meant to launch a communist regime to ban Catholicism.
maybe, but I doubt there's that much planning in how events unfold.

>> No.20163041

>>20163013
>How else would you hedge against that?
by making more money than what you can earn by yourself.

>> No.20163061

>>20162940
>I work for several of those miners, you're still thinking small. Safe, but small.

What are you suggesting. Should I start my own mining company? Ambitious but not possible atm. I get what you are saying though. I prefer an easy life over 20 hour days.

>> No.20163062

>>20163029
nigger i was 14 in 2o16 faggot i just turned 18 maybe read the thread before posting kike

>> No.20163068

>>20163014
>this is coin and bullion collecting.
we both know that's not true.

I was responding originally to one of the many anons here that believe they're going to get rich in very little time off a very safe investment.

which almost never happens.

>> No.20163073

>>20162249
>Anon, you should buy into a stock market that has a 3% market risk premium and a 4% earnings yield while the fed has been increasing the money supply by >6% annually. You don't have to worry about asset prices because we're talking about THE FUTURE

>> No.20163082

>>20163062
>nigger i was 14 in 2o16 faggot i just turned 18
you asked about me, not you

>> No.20163093

>>20163073
still not enough risk.

stock market is also an old man's game.

>> No.20163118

>>20162428
Walmart would have to cut there workforce by literally 50% if the fed wasn't keeping them afloat. This is why people buy pms right now retard. Forward yields on capital or dogshit specifically because of what you think is "capitalism". Big difference between starting a capital light business, which you suggest someone just pull out of their ass, and investing money into the stock market.

>> No.20163121

>>20163082
fucking retard can you read?

>> No.20163156

>>20163118
you're right but you're not addressing the topic I originally responded to.

which is that making money is always going to beat storing it. How you make money is your business, but you should be trying to make some however you can.

>> No.20163169

>>20163121
>fucking retard can you read?
do you think people actually read the entire thread before responding to a post they're interested in?

please go be stupid somewhere else.

>> No.20163170

>>20163068
>many anons here that believe they're going to get rich in very little time off a very safe investment.
while we all recognize this is a reasonable possiblity, it is admitted that is not a garantee and is not what we all are banking our futures on.
primary purpose is safe long term storage of value/wealth. and the joy of fondling the hord of pirate treasure
it is not a for quick profit venture. serious pm stackers are long term holders. (decades)
see enough of these threads and you will see that is the case. the mentality in these threads is not the mentality of cryptoids. whole nother animal here

>> No.20163199

>>20163029
>My future will continue to be larger than your stacks
One can hope so anon. However there's no guarantee your work will increase your pay. You are correct though in the indication of your work, your talents, skill, dedication, and absorption of learning, being your greatest asset. We all strive for this too.
>maybe, but I doubt there's that much planning in how events unfold.
Actually the manifestos were written as far back as the 16th century to overthrow the church & youre seeing this entire covid-19 reveal its true colors rotate out the catholic church. Theyre banning chanting in churches, telling people to spy on the church if they're breaking mandated closures & "social distancing",along with making sure the communist funded BLM movement and south America. communsit regime affiliated BLM party members are insighting attacks on all statues thus all churches and catholics in the U.S.

I can understand ignorence, but I will not stand for blatant denial of this subject matter.

Communists have used the vehicld of race blown out of proportion by painting the Western world as "insensitive bigot racists seemingly from Christian 'thought'".

Communism/socialism seems to level the playing feild in "equality" just to hoist itself above the oppressive masses to make them the oppressed themselves. Communism is linked to frremasonry which is the worship of lucifer.

You're either new here or you are indeed very young to where this is all news to you as well as something you will paint as "crazy" despite everything im talking about coming to fruition & the historic evidence being outlined clearly across the internet at yiur finger tips.

Look at cannon law, Albert pike, BLM home page of its manifesto, BLM leaders on the FBI wanted list & who they've worked with in the past, Our Lady of Fatima, Cannon Law on the teaching of Freemasonry, Freemasonry unmasked (book).

You're on 4chan.
The links are on almost every board now.

>> No.20163200

>>20163170
>while we all recognize this is a reasonable possiblity
it's not

>see enough of these threads and you will see that is the case.
c'mon man, I've been reading these threads religiously for 5 years now. Minus 2017 when the board went entirely crypto.

most of the anons here are basing their purchases off the religious belief that society will collapse, fiat will fail, and scrap metal will suddenly replace it.

>> No.20163203

>>20163156
no nigger your just saying that because you know your wrong and now your trying to shift the goalpost

>> No.20163220

>>20163169
why kike you think your to important for the commoners?

>> No.20163226

>>20163156
>you're not addressing the topic I originally responded to.
>which is that making money is always going to beat storing it. How you make money is your business, but you should be trying to make some however you can.

We have jobs and careers. PM stacking is a hobby. it happens to be a safe place to store value. low risk, low potential return. but its safe.
for medium to high risk ' medium to high returns, we have other investments

We
Have
Big boy Jobs
PM
Is
A
Hobby

>> No.20163233

>>20163199
>You're either new here or you are indeed very young
if you search the archives you'll find my pics posted on this board within weeks of moot starting it. And I was pretty old even back then.

>> No.20163236

>>20163200
>religious belief that society will collapse
read a history book nigger

>> No.20163245

>>20163200
>most of the anons here are basing their purchases off the religious belief that society will collapse, fiat will fail, and scrap metal will suddenly replace it.
no. that is wrong. your not the first one to assume this.

>> No.20163251

>>20163233
>if you search the archives you'll find my pics posted on this board within weeks of moot starting it. And I was pretty old even back then.
are you lost?reddit is down the corner and the third door on the right

>> No.20163255

>>20163226
I got it.

Like I said over an hour ago, your job will NEVER MAKE YOU RICH. No matter how efficient your storage of 'energy.'

>> No.20163272

>>20163251
>are you lost?reddit is down the corner and the third door on the right
shut up literal newfag

>> No.20163273

>>20163200
If we go full digital enforced currency you better believe silver & gold are replacing our current currency.

>> No.20163287

>>20163272
>shut up literal newfag
kike who are you calling a new fag?

>> No.20163294

>>20163245
>your not the first one to assume this
I may very well be most of the past people to assume it. I post here a lot.

also I'm the only one interested enough in your wellbeing to say it. Lots of people know stackers are deluded. Very few care enough to point it out.

>> No.20163305

>>20163255
>your job will NEVER MAKE YOU RICH
Are you selling a book on "That one Trick that Banks hate" ?

>> No.20163320

>>20163273
>you better believe silver & gold are replacing our current currency.
why? almost nobody has any so it's a terrible means of exchange.
>>20163287
I'm calling you a newfag, you child. I've got grandkids older than you and I was posting on /biz/ when you were in 4chan when you were in 6th grade.

>> No.20163321

>>20163233
I can beleive that.
Please look into the manifestos & writings then. If you must than just YouTube catholocism & freemasonry.
A punch of protestants think the church is masonic, but the masons infiltrated.
You'll find nostly good csfholic videos outlining freemasonry & communists.

Theyre literally writing on the walls that they're going to kill catholics across the country.

>> No.20163349

>>20163320
>I've got grandkids older than you and I was posting on /biz/ when you were in 4chan when you were in 6th grade.
>do you understand the irony of hating business while on a business board? It's not jews you fucking idiot, it's just capitalism.
did your kike brain just have a stroke?

>> No.20163352

>>20163305
kek

no I'm just a stacker that found a much better way. You might too. I hope so.
>>20163321
Catholics have always been hated and persecuted in the US. But so have communists.

>> No.20163358

>>20163245
Miser reporting in, I don’t plan on getting rich with PMs, just avoiding penury.

>> No.20163367

>>20163349
I'm drinking kiddo

in 3 more years you'll be old enough to do that too.

>> No.20163374

>>20163358
I plan on getting rich off PMs
Remember, silver:gold 3:1 is the dream

>> No.20163383

>>20161063
In the case of swiss 5 franc coins,
it is tricky:
silvers are pre-1967 and 1969,
CuNi are 1968 and post-1970.

Very detailed page here:
https://www.schweizer-geld.ch/bundesmuenzen-5-franken/de/14-1

>> No.20163396

>>20163320
>almost nobody has any so it's a terrible means of exchange
Christians of the south & the few outliers who dont trust an enforced digital currency will know silver & gold were once traded up until about a century ago gold standard as legal currency.

Gold & silver are the physical form of currency the government thought they wiped out by trying to take away all cash.

Hence silver & gold will increase in value when the demand is high.

You're not reading the full posts.
I've already outlined that.
I'm getting the feeling you're an absolute shill or glower. Everything you're posting almost goes against any regular poster in a /pmg/ thread.

Most of what I jusf said in this post has been established for the last 10 or more threads.

>> No.20163401

>>20163093
You really don't have much more logic then a generic pf youtuber to offer. The majority of people don't want to spend 10+ hrs/day in their 20s trying to build a business that has a 33% chance of making a small profit after 2 years. You literally don't understand that there are other ways to look at life.
Yeah, the people here who think that silver is going to be $200 in a year are retarded, but you can't literally just increase risk and get higher returns, that's an old mans thinking.

Like it or not your business is an outlier if you've been in it for 20 years. And you're success is also likely directly tied to an unprecedented increase in the monetary base
.>>20163156
You don't actually have a point then. Obviously +1 is always more than +0. It's a tautology. People here are stacking because they believe that the current Keynesian mega expansion since 1990 can't continue which will lead to massive deleveraging and insolvency when it stops, or hyperinflation if it doesn't.

You even agreed with me that if interest rates weren't manipulated, the nations largest employer would decrease it's workforce by 50%. It doesn't make any sense to pay high forward prices (which is what you pay for an investment) when there is that level of uncertainty. People are here specifically because there aren't good investments they see as available right now.

>> No.20163402

>>20163358
>, I don’t plan on getting rich with PMs, just avoiding penury.
this is actually what originally attracted me to /biz/

all the frugal threads way back in the day raised the question of whether you should earn more or spend less or both.

/pmg/ is just /frugal/ for the modern /biz/ board. Nothing wrong with being frugal but most people outgrow it.

>> No.20163445

>>20163352
Don't put them on the same playing feild because it's not the same. Communism oppressed cstholicism & apposed them with blood & iron. You know this & are throwing our a rehearing here to have me argue this very point of them being treated equally in America..


Anyone else thinking this is a glower or freemason or even part of the socialist movement within BLM now?

>> No.20163462

>>20163396
>bsolute shill or glower.
hes a kike trying to get people ,especially young men back on the plantaion

>> No.20163474

>>20163396
>You're not reading the full posts.
I assume you're insane, and stop reading.
the stuff about religion and secret societies and world orders shuts me down as fast as that kid up there complaining about the jews. You're all fucking nuts.
>>20163401
>you can't literally just increase risk and get higher returns, that's an old mans thinking.
increased risk doesn't automatically increase rewards, but increased rewards invariably carry increased risk

not all fruits are oranges but all oranges are fruits.

>10+ hrs/day in their 20s trying to build a business that has a 33% chance of making a small profit after 2 years
the stats include shell and flow-through businesses that are designed to fail. The actual success rate is much higher.
>You even agreed with me that if interest rates weren't manipulated,
hypotheticals don't matter in real life.

>> No.20163487

>>20163445
The other guy is a boomer moron, but you're a special kind of stupid. Did you have to wear a helmet during recess?

>> No.20163496

>>20163445
not everyone that thinks you're crazy is a freemason or a jew or a government employee

you're just crazy is all.

>> No.20163525

>>20163474
Ok then you have to assume that the Keynesian expansion will never stop and there will be no consequences. That was my actual point. So the point you're making is that we will never see inflation as a result of increasing the money supply and we'll also never increase interest rates.

The entire point of finance is hypotheticals

>> No.20163534 [DELETED] 

>>20163525
>So the point you're making is that we will never see inflation as a result of increasing the money supply and we'll also never increase interest rates.
no

>> No.20163558

>>20163525
>So the point you're making is that we will never see inflation as a result of increasing the money supply and we'll also never increase interest rates.
no, the point I'm making is that if you learn to make money off other people's work you're survive the inevitable collapses and downturns and inflation by riding the backs of others.

capitalists will always rise above labor, sometimes more quickly than others. The only thing that can change this is actual revolution and communism.

>> No.20163594

>>20163558
This is real boomer hours. No wonder the world is so shit right now with these fuckin idiots in charge. Kill yourself and pass on your wealth already you piece of shit.

>> No.20163644

>>20163594
I'm not a boomer, my parents are.

otherwise you're correct.

the only thing you don't know is that in 20 years you'll be me and your kids will be you. But you'll learn.

>> No.20163662
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20163662

>hol up
>so you be sayin
>smacks lips
>I gotta wear a mask??
>shiiieeett I ain't doin that white boi

>> No.20163671

>>20163644
i hope you get raped by a feral pack of niggers

>> No.20163693

>>20163671
>i hope you get raped by a feral pack of niggers
somehow I doubt that's going to happen, but if the thought comforts you by all means think it.

in real life my 'stacks' protect me from most of the monsters living in your head

>> No.20163716

>>20163693
so your just a trust fund babie who comes on PMG to talk down and tell us commoners that we are stupid?

>> No.20163748

>>20163716
my dad is blind and my mom chronically unemployed. I grew up so poor Captain Crunch was the high point of our year.

I'm here to tell you there's a better way and you can find it.

not you personally, you seem pretty dumb and angry, but others here have a real shot.

>> No.20163787
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20163787

>>20162499
Coins generally refer to government minted (ASEs, maples, brittanias, kooks/roos), rounds for privately minted (Asahi Psilver Cyber Tokens, buffalo shit rounds). There are exceptions to this rule, and both coins and rounds are made with a manufacturing process called "coining".
Hope that helps!

>> No.20163793

>>20160583
Nice compare.

>> No.20163839

>>20162499
>>20163787
Also, coins will have a face value denominated in the currency of their country of origin, rounds do not. That's probably the best way to explain it.

>> No.20163861

>>20163748
And then everyone clapped?

>> No.20163868

>>20160619
I'll be contrarian here and say, hey, go buy a couple cute copper bars or rounds for the fuck of it. Copper ounce is around 1.99 or so retail. 20 bucks buys you say 10 rounds or bars to fondle and be a dirty trap stacklet.

You could say be ordering silver and need a few bucks more to get muh free shipping. There you go.

>> No.20163893

>>20163861
I just wish someone had told me when I was 20 something wasting all my spare cash on gold and silver and guns and ammo and cars and broke girls and booze.

but there's a learning curve and people seem to have a need to follow it.

>> No.20163943

>>20163868
thanks anon

>>20163893
quite trying to larp as one of us you already outed yourself as a trust fund kid retard

>> No.20163955

>>20163943
>quite trying to larp as one of us you already outed yourself as a trust fund kid retard
already said it.
I've been posting in these threads since you were in diapers.

I belong here more than you ever will.

>> No.20163972

>>20163955
go away kike,no one likes you

>> No.20163985

>>20163893
You haven't actually told us anything except "think big" and "make money from others" and other such vague statements. I don't know shit about being an employer or finding a viable business idea. Why don't you give some real advice.

>> No.20164040

>>20163985
ok.

apply for an EIN from the IRS. Then call D&B and ask for a DUNS. Once that's done set up a business checking account and ask your insurance agent about business liability insurance and workman's comp.

then read all those books aimed at kids on how to make money in your spare time mowing lawns or cleaning houses or shoveling snow. Go do that stuff, charge $125 per hour. You'll get tons of work because that's a low rate for those kinds of jobs. Hire people and add them to your workman's comp and liability insurance. Consult IRS publications on how to pay their taxes quarterly under your EIN.

do good work.

make millions of dollars.

lose millions of dollars.

go bankrupt a couple times.

make more millions.

realize that all this is a big fucking game and stacking metals out of your hourly paycheck is the silliest game of all.

>> No.20164071

>>20164040
>make money in your spare time mowing lawns or cleaning houses or shoveling snow. Go do that stuff, charge $125 per hour
>mow lawns at $125 an hour
you have no real world knowledge and i doubt you did any manual labor in your life

>> No.20164109

>>20164071
you have no clue how much your employer makes off your work

I charge $125 per hour to mow lawns and then pay someone $12.50 to do the work. This is business, idiot. This is what I'm talking about. I make hundreds of dollars an hour doing nothing. Watching other people work.

>> No.20164143

>>20164109
>I charge $125 per hour to mow lawns and then pay someone $12.50 to do the work
kike detected

so your million dollar a year business is a landscaping company?

>> No.20164147

>>20163893
I buy gold because i like putting money where the government can't see it. Sorry but i lost my whole stash in a boating accident and all my bitcoin got wiped off my hard drive

>> No.20164172

>>20164147
>i like putting money where the government can't see it.
in the US they report it when you sell. Not a problem if you never sell, but then what's the point?
>>20164143
>so your million dollar a year business is a landscaping company?
I work in property management. That covers a lot of tasks including landscaping.

>> No.20164182

>>20164172
sure nigger you sound like a larping faggot

>> No.20164191

>>20164172
Not if you trade it to another person for cash or services upfront

>> No.20164197

>>20164143
>kike detected
never going to make it

>> No.20164231

>>20164197
the kike is angry that we know his tricks

>> No.20164248

>>20164182
>how much to mow my lawn, bro?
>I'll do it for $30

secret is it takes 15 minutes to make that $30 and I have 3 more lawns that size lined up in the next hour.

you have no clue because you don't understand time or money or volume. And frankly you're too dumb at this point to ever get it.

>> No.20164274

>>20164248
>you have no clue because you don't understand time or money or volume. And frankly you're too dumb at this point to ever get it.
why so salty,mad your golems don't want to be your slaves anymore?

>> No.20164301

>>20164248
Anon is kind of a douche, but he's not wrong. I'm happy to pay $35 bucks to have my yard mowed and it takes no more than 20 min for a medium/hilly yard. It would take me over an hour so it's well worth it. There's lots of shit like that out there, fucking snow cone trailers fully loaded on ebay for 20k. Get some teens to run it and make 50 an hour collecting cash and restocking ice occasionally.

>> No.20164313

>>20164274
you morally object to capitalism, you're a communist or some stupid shit. Why are you even here?

>> No.20164331

>>20164248
Do you have a teleportation device so you don't have to travel between lawns to mow?
Or did you find employees who are ok with only being paid for 1/4 of each hour?

>> No.20164344

>>20164313
you are stawmaning me faggot,you know you are out of touch and need to stop trying to pretend to be one of us.u never said i was against capitalism ,i am against your kike tricks

>> No.20164363

>>20164331
in real life I don't mess around working for individuals.

my business contracts to manage properties for 5 years at a time, so rather than hopping from one yard to the next I just pay someone by the hour to do work I'm charging 10-20X more than they make to do.

>> No.20164382

>>20164344
>u never said i was against capitalism ,i am against your kike tricks
what exactly do you think capitalism is, kid?

>> No.20164393

>>20164363
Sounds like a tight market with limited opportunity for new entrants

>> No.20164413

>>20164393
believe it or not I control the market by keeping prices so low no real company can compete.

$125-$250 per hour is extremely low for building maintenance.

>> No.20164417

>>20164382
>what exactly do you think capitalism is, kid?
i hope you get raped by a nigger you disgusticg peice of fucking shit.

>> No.20164429

>>20164417
you're on the wrong board still

>> No.20164454

holy shit this is the worst /pmg/ in a long time, this cunt is even more insufferable than the tripfag

>> No.20164459

>>20164429
>the kike calls me a shill
KEK

>> No.20164466

>>20164454
I'm always here

you only notice if I piss you off

>> No.20164477

>>20164466
>57 posts by this ID
get a tripcode so we can all filter you easily

>> No.20164483

>>20164459
>the kike calls me a shill
your eyes are bad

>> No.20164507

>>20164301
Good idea, until your employees start skimming the takings, or the mafia shuts you down - little cash-in-hand businesses are perfect laundering fronts for them.

>> No.20164516

>>20164483
god you are a faggot

>> No.20164525

>>20164483
Fun larp but pls go away.

>> No.20164528
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20164528

holy fucking autism batman

>> No.20164537

>>20164477
I can change my ID if you like

>> No.20164543

>>20164525
been here longer than you have, I'm not going anywhere

>> No.20164565

>>20164537
nigger go away

>> No.20164578

>>20164454
plebbitors are fucking insufferable when given anonymity

>> No.20164581

>>20164565
suck my balls

don't you have some lead or tin or copper to buy?

>> No.20164586

>>20164466
Okay so... are you done?
You mind shitting up another thread now?
I hear /pol/ is arguing about how facemasks are evil

>> No.20164614

>>20164586
I'm never done.

if the truth pisses you guys off you should probably think about why that is. The world isn't your private hugbox.

>> No.20164618

>>20164581
we still know its you faggot

>> No.20164638

>>20164614
>if the truth pisses you guys off you should probably think about why that is
but u get angry when i tell you the kikes are faggots

>> No.20164645

www dot 4chan-x dot net
for all your filtering needs

>> No.20164647

>>20164618
holy shit you're actually handicapped

good to know my taxes are being wisely invested in Nazi silver by literal retards

>> No.20164668

>>20164638
>but u get angry when i tell you the kikes are faggots
I'm not angry

what you call 'kikes' are just capitalists. You hate capitalism. You're on the wrong board is all.

>>>/pol/

>> No.20164701

>>20164645
thank you anon


but back to the point of the board what are the tax laws when you buy a metal?

>> No.20164726
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20164726

Let's just ignore him.

>> No.20164734

>>20164726
thats a nice looking stack

>> No.20164755
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20164755

We just like shiny things here, go back to plebbit and stop shitting up our /comfy/ board. Anyway, >>20163383 yes with Swiss coins it is indeed tricky, but I like them because Switserland is on of the few places in Europe that still uses silver in their currency.

>> No.20164772
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>>20164614
I wanted to enjoy a nice night of people comparing different stacks and discussing the merits of different coins and bars
Instead I get some old drunk boomer arguing with literally everyone in a thread that he has no business being in in the first place

So thanks for ruining my night. Guess I'll just go to sleep and forget about PMs

>> No.20164782

>>20164755
i know America and Mexico don't what other country use silver for currency today?

>> No.20164787

>>20164701
Varied state by state and ever tightening as govs grow more and more desperate

>> No.20164788

>>20164668
/co/ is to /lgbt/ as /biz/ is to /pol/.

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>>20164726
So these are the last silver eagles that uses this design right (dunno europoor)? Do you think it get some numismatic value?

>> No.20164796

>>20164755
>We just like shiny things here,
me too
>go back to plebbit and stop shitting up our /comfy/ board.
I live here, I'm always here. You just never know it until one of you says something so goddamn stupid I have to argue with them.

>> No.20164809

>>20164701
In America you don't need to report anything on your taxes for purchasing bullion
You do have to pay taxes on your profits when selling PMs though

>> No.20164826

>>20160426
If you buy from JM bullion, or APMEX you can be sure that 99.99% chance you aren't being ripped off. Avoid eBay or flea markets.

>> No.20164827

>>20164782
*Puts an American Silver Eagle on your head*

Now don't actually USE it as currency ffs.

>> No.20164830

>>20160489
I have a great LCS that will order silver for me at apmex prices and have it delivered to him. I pay when I pick up the phyz. No shipping risks. It's a beautiful relationship.

>> No.20164831

>>20164809
good thing i never intend to sell PMs for fiat currency

>> No.20164841

>>20164788
truth

but it's a weird thing when people claim to hate communism but then turn around and call all capitalism jewish tricks. I think they're just children that think they're going to get a fortune handed to them just for being white or something. Retards.

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>>20164796
pic related


>>20164809
thanks anon

>>20164787
do you think there will be a time soon when the government will take people PM again

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>>20164782
Yeah, wat I meant is that Switserland stopped minting silver coins in 1970, but the silver coins are still in circulation just like in the US (I think). Nowhere else in Europe has silver in circulation like that, most have been replaced with the shitty euro. I miss my guldens

>> No.20164853

>>20164831
It's kinda pointless if you never use it to purchase anything ever though isn't it?

>> No.20164873

if everyone would just install 4chan-x at
www dot 4chan-x dot net
then we could have quality /pmg/ threads again

>> No.20164890

>>20164873
keep your hugbox pure, buddy

don't want any uncomfy facts trickling in to ruin your day

>> No.20164891

>>20164793
New design? Never heard of it. I like current design, my favorite coin.

>> No.20164922

>>20161729
Except these cunts were selling at 19-20 when spot was $12 4 months ago. And now that spot is $18ish they will only buy at 19-20. Coin dealers are trash who play the markets andlive for the spread. Fucking merchants

>> No.20164931

>>20164845
Look up capital gains tax on bullion
Basically if you buy gold at $1800 and sell it at $2000 2 years later you have to pay 15% of the $200 profit you made
So you would owe the govt $30 in that case and I believe you would LEGALLY have to report that
Though many here say that this only applies for exchanges over $10,000 I've never found anything confirming this

>> No.20164946

>>20164852
There's still silver dimes and quarters floating around
We don't make them anymore either though

>> No.20164953

>>20164873
how does it work?but ive also heard that it has a keylogger

>> No.20164967

>>20164891
I heard of the change in designs of the silver eagle a few /pmg/ threads back. They claim here that is agains counterfetting.
https://www.jmbullion.com/for-the-35th-anniversary-new-designs-will-come-to-the-reverse-of-american-eagle-coins/

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>>20164891
They're changing the silver and gold eagle in 2021
Pic related is the new eagle design for silver
They're also going to be putting some new tech in the coins for digital tracking purposes

>> No.20164993

>>20164853
chances are you build up a network of people, that accept gold and silver for things, through your hobby
you could also just convert PMs for fiat currency and spend it within the same day if you really have to, but if you're financially responsible why would you even need to do that? i keep a buffer account for crises
>>20164953
it's open source, if there was a keylogger some nerd would have found it by now

>> No.20164996

>>20162409
Paying someone less than the value they create and profting off the difference is kike trash and is why our country is on its death bed.

>> No.20165014

>>20164975
>They're also going to be putting some new tech in the coins for digital tracking purposes
how would that work ?is in not going to be pure silver anymore?

>> No.20165033

>>20164953
there's a neat little guide in the script when you start using it

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>

>> No.20165058

>>20164993
Are you planning on passing it down to your kids? Would you be mad if they spent it?
Just saying that something that is inherently designed to store wealth technically isn't storing anything if it's never, from its existence onwards, used to purchase anything
Like for example if you buried a few million dollars underground and forgot about it and died and never spent it
That money became worthless once you forgot about it

>> No.20165073

>>20165014
no, they'll pack them with tracking chips, although there was some coin which had the chip incorporated into its body

>> No.20165078

>>20165014
I think they're putting some sort of RFID in it
Others here would know more
Whatever they're doing is already being put into practice for other bullion coins and bars

>> No.20165082

>>20165014
>It went a step further with its Bullion DNA, or digital non-destructive activation, program. This uses a laser micro-engraved maple leaf security mark with digital coding inside and a small date mark matching the year of issue for the coin.

So apparently this according to the JMbullion article

>> No.20165100

>>20164996
hes paying 1/10 of their value back to them

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>>20165058
it's a hedge against central banker kikery

>> No.20165140

>>20165082
so it's no worse than a barcode

>> No.20165183

>>20165078
wtf so how do you stop this shit,

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>>20165183
>wtf so how do you stop this shit,

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>>20165140
here is a maple leaf security mark, but I don't know I never held a maple leaf

>> No.20165206

>>20165118
You're missing my point though
It's kinda like how the if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound? Thing

What im saying is... let's say you never need to spend it, and by your own words you don't want to ever spend your pms
So if you die and never used your PMs to purchase anything... you kinda just put all your money into worthless shiny rocks

Bearing in mind that I also buy silver, but I intend to use all of it to purchase things when hyperinflation hits or society collapses

>> No.20165224

>>20165183
Don't buy 2021 eagles
A silver eagle will probably cost $10,000 by the end of 2021 anyways

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>broadband provider phones me yesterday
>'sir we have your cashback reward ready, how would you prefer us to send the money to you?'
>'don't you mean currency, not money? Unless you have the facility to send gold or silver though the post'
>bitch acts confused
>I take her through the last 3000 years of monetary history and explain the differences between money and fiat currency, as well as explaining how the fractional reserve banking system is a Jewish ponzi scheme
>'very interesting sir but we need to know if you would prefer your money by bank transfer or cheque'
>I see red
>'keep your fucking worthless fiat currency! You can't even use correct terminology when talking to me? This conversation is over'
>slam phone down and go back to arranging my silver stack

>> No.20165313

>>20165206
>Bearing in mind that I also buy silver, but I intend to use all of it to purchase things when hyperinflation hits or society collapses
that's what i mean by
>it's a hedge against central banker kikery
if fiat currency has value why would i not just use fiat currency? and if fiat currency doesn't have value why would i give my PMs for it?

>> No.20165615

>>20165192
won't the microwave catch on fire

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>>20165183
So that is my point, I think there would be more demand for the 2020 Silver Eagles

>> No.20165658

>>20165615
no but it will make sparks

>> No.20165664

I've kept my Pokemon cards from the 90s/early 2000s as I knew one day their gonna appreciate in value. I think that time has come. Have we reached the best point in time for selling my Pokemon TCG holos and trade up for precious metals?

>> No.20165666

>>20163199
Checked* bless you fellow Catholic anon. I am a sinner but will die for Christ’s church.

>Saint Michael the arch angel defend us in battle; be our protection from the wickedness and snares of the devil.
>May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou oh prince of the heavenly host by the power of God thrust into hell satan all all evil spirits who prowl throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

>> No.20165722

>>20165664
i have some of my yugioh cards do you think i should sell those?

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what do you think about 20 deutsche marks? I've seen pretty low premiums for these

>> No.20165794

>>20165658
You can actually ruin your microwave by putting metal in it you know
It may not light on fire but it can cease to function properly

>> No.20165799

>>20165664
>>20165722
Now is the right time considering appreciation in old cards and still low prices in metals

>> No.20165830

>>20165664
Im pretty sure we're in the last year that you can buy bread for less than $100 a loaf
So yes I would sell them and buy silver with the money

>> No.20165844

>>20165794
well maybe you could heat up the bullion in an oven

>> No.20165858

>>20165794
thanks for the heads up

>>20165799
should i sell online or just sell them to the local games shop?

>> No.20165873

im so glad that kike is gone now

>> No.20165923

>>20165206

the same thing could be said about a stock you buy and never sell, or really anything for that matter. the whole idea is, you can choose to spend it, or if you wait to pass it along to someone else, time hasn't eliminated its value.

>> No.20166198

>>20165858
/mmg/ here, sell online as most lgs will rip you off bad.
Tcgplayer and ebay are best, look at other’s prices and undercut by a fraction of that.
If it’s an in demand card it will sell in hours, collectables will take longer unless you make them much cheaper.
Using tracking on packages is recommended but most people are trustworthy.
If you opt to use tcgplayer then they will take a 15% cut which is still far better than what your local store will charge.
Look up how to properly secure cards as well so they don’t get damaged during shipping and that’s most of the advice I can give.

>> No.20166258

>>20166198
>local store will charge.
so the game stores will rip me off?

>> No.20166346

so i was half joking about that microwave thing. don't put your bullion in the microwave

>> No.20166392

>>20165733
I got one, was from the 1800's, pretty cool. A bit dirty & not very shiny sl a little underwhelming in that regard. I didn't weight it but it was a little worn so I'm concerned about it being underweight.

With the low premium I think it's worth picking up 1, they have a lot of soul & history for a bullion coin.

>> No.20166447

>>20160426
Go on alibaba and learn what's being faked. 10oz silver bars, 1/2 oz and 1 oz gold coins. You are very safe when you buy things in smaller sizes than these from apmex, jm, etc.

>> No.20166519

Bimetallic constitutionally sound monetary system incoming

>> No.20166526

>>20166258
They have to in order to make a profit as they are planning on selling the cards to other players themselves. So just selling directly to people who want the cards is strictly better though a bit more tedious than going up to your lgs, getting a set price for all your stuff, and walking out 15 minutes later with it all sold.

>> No.20166615

>58 posts by this ID
For what pvrpose

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>>20166615
>>58 posts by this ID
>For what pvrpose

>> No.20166719

>>20166615

probably that trip faggot took off his trip but kept posting as if he had one.

>> No.20166721

>>20165923
If you pass it on to someone else then chances are they'll spend it
And yes it applies to stocks and all investments
Same with cash
If it's never spent its worthless
But if you pass it on and your kids or their kids eventually spend it then it does have use

Sorry im just trying to understand the
>never cash in your silver
Crowd

>> No.20166776

Holy fuck at the kikes in this thread demoralizing everyone from buying bullion

Gold performed with a 550% gain in the last 2 decades. Fuck you

>> No.20166779

>>20166719
wouldn't surprise me at all. taking off the trip probably wouldn't redeem that cunt

>> No.20166914

>>20166779
back story on the trip fag?

>> No.20166970

>>20160377
LIFTOFF

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>>20166776
Best part it all started when I pointed out that money is human energy storage and hr just recoiled like a demon and keeps raging. Typical "shut it down!!" panic attack.

>> No.20167085

>>20166914

he just shills crypto in every thread while insulting everyone and being ungodly retarded. im not even sure if he has any precious metals

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>buying goldbacks

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>>20166914
some edgy cunt that rolled trips and decided to call himself The Devil. admitted to having perpetrated domestic abuse and just being a cunt in general. some other anon could probably expand on this. pic related, him taking a shit on some lebanese OP looking for advice on how to save himself from ongoing hyperinflation

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>>20167112

>> No.20167185

>>20167112
>The Devil.
sounds like something a middle schooler would call him self

>> No.20167188

>>20167185
more like middle school shooter

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>>20167162

>> No.20167197

>>20167112
i called him a nigger in that thread

>> No.20167216

>>20167197
based. i linked to his post in /pmg/

>> No.20167432

new thread?

>> No.20167451

>>20167432
This one doesn't feel comfy like the others.

>> No.20167497

>>20167057
The jew fears the PM stacker. That’s what it always comes down to

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Post some stacks anons!

>> No.20167539

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/lebanon-economy-coronavirus-domestic-migrant-workers-kafala-a9600506.html

this reading fucks me up

>> No.20167572

>For years, the central bank and successive governments have used the banking system to finance the state, in what critics say is a national equivalent to a Ponzi scheme.

>Amid a growing liquidity crisis, the government shut people out of their dollar accounts in the autumn, crippling households and businesses. Three-quarters of deposits to banks in the country are made in dollars.

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>>20162395
>If I hire 10 employees for life and take half of what they make that's ten million dollars made.

That is describing taxation of the plebs by the government anon, not paying people for their work, employers take NOTHING from employees and are in fact giving them wages for their work.

>> No.20167632

new and comfy >>20167615

>> No.20167643

>>20166198
I dont know about this, I have had extreme low balls from online and in person stores.

Right now, cheapest gold is at the LCS, can get maples for LESS then generic gold online.

Cheapest silver right now is online still.

>> No.20167710

>>20167057
This is why we see hit pieces in the news about how stackers are paranoid, gun loving right wing nuts who are also probably ok with saving their culture and people.

*que seinfeild voice* not that there is anything wrong wrong with that

>> No.20167792

>>20167710
links to said hit peices?

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>>20167792
https://republicofmining.com/2020/07/03/opinion-dont-bet-on-the-silver-boom-by-john-dizard-financial-times-july-3-2020/

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>>20167521
here you go

>> No.20168163

>>20167643
Talking about selling cardboard not metals. We hold here so I don’t know why you would want to anyhow unless you’ve gotten hit with really shit financial problems

>> No.20168457

>>20162024
Neat

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>>20167710
>>20167792

Here's one from a couple days ago.

https://www.ft.com/content/c768ef03-6695-45b4-b282-f73843f41543?fbclid=IwAR2GD3gLe5YwbHhM_A3Z3Q6fZRBG9e7VfITxVjVFNHvDMxopURC_fINNkwk

>> No.20168699

>>20165183
Why would you want to stop something that proves your ase isn't counterfeit?

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>>20168699
you dont think that it isint suspicious that all of a sudden pms give off identifiable radio waves? this doesnt seem weird to you?

>> No.20168846

>>20168699
Because the whole point of bullion is to get your money out of the system. If they can track it, they would know exactly what you've bought, where you bought it, for how much, and the of course what you'rlve sold etc.

>> No.20169044

>>20168795
>>20168846
LOL both of you are nuts...
Somebody COULD log your ase when they scan it, but they may not be required to.
But
If that's a concern
Buy a normal silver bar then.
Silver's really easy to test anyway so why are you paying a premium for ase?

>> No.20169114

>>20169044
wow thats quite the reaction to someone asking you to think critically about an unnecessary addition (which can easily become necessary by law). its all fun and games until its required.

>> No.20169174

>>20169114
Right the government is going to force everyone to buy RFID scanning equipment and put in a logging system... They'll drive half the stores out of business with that bullshit.

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>>20169174
rfid is getting cheaper, a sigma metallitics costs 700$ and my LCS has 4 of them. you think it would be hard for a fed vehicle to drive by with a high gain antenna and check houses for silver from outside?