/biz/ - Business & Finance

>trolling outside of /b/
>>>/b/

>>20079301
robinhood made millions of people into investors with their easy to use app. and the fed is doing what it does as well as washington as a whole. things will be like this until election, no idea what happens after that

>>20079301
um fuck poor people?

>>20079301
1984 fake economy numbers. China can't tell us to repay our debts to them, because they don't have superior militairy force, and since we are the reserve currency we get all the lee-way in the world. Also, don't listen to people who say defund the militairy! That is the only reason this clown show can persist

It is called hyper inflation. Between the “economic incentives”, the fed pumping money into the stock market and other policies, the currency weakened which led to price increases, stock including. This is specifically for USD.

The problem is when the rest of the world catches up to that, the stock prices in their currencies will stabilize on the proper level, way below what it is now. This will lead to USD completely shutting down.
That said, for the rest of the world to catch up to that, the petrodollar needs to be weaken too, which is also happening with low oil demand.

TL;DR: this is hyperinflation, which isn’t as severe now in its effects because USD is still the top dog for a multitude of reasons, like oil. Once more domino pieces fall, the whole charade will fall.

>>20079355
So basically this is a bubble in a bubble, right? Stonks just got the actual P&D.
Free market is dead!
>>20079366
So you say everything is going up to price out the ones that can't afford an entry?
Makes sense since it's all about greed but that's it?

>>20079367
DESU, I would like to set an end to this clownworld, its blocking so many people and it only benefits a few.
You seem like an old fag since you pulled out 1984 numbers, what was the conflict back then?

>>20079371
Thanks for your perspective. Which parts of the economy do you include in your domino universe that are key to make it al tumble down? In order of importance maybe?

>>20079371
Right now, everyone is holding/investing capital, causing deflation. We won't see any inflation until extra-monetary supply starts circulating at high velocity.

Now, once that happens, can the government counter with good fiscal policy? Most likely not. Something is going to have to absorb all this lost productivity; it will be the dollar.

But like I said, first will come deflation. Wait for the market to correct, then get into equities. Do not get into the equities markets now because of fear of inflation. Remember, inflation won't happen until printed money starts circulating. And because this extra-monetary supply is in equities, a crash will be the beginning of either stagflation or inflation. Regardless of which, you will not want to be holding cash.

>>20079504
The only option besides clown world is anarchy/communist takeover as far as I can tell. This is their big move...And by 1984, I was referring to the book, where they faked econ numbers, and laughed about it saying no one would dare to think or say otherwise, so write whatever you want.

>>20079301
the fed bought the junk bonds
are you new?

>>20079301
First of all the only people who lost their jobs are people who don’t contribute anything to the economy, mostly high schoolers and wagies. Also people are being paid more on unemployment than they would’ve at a job.
Add that on top of record money pumped into the economy, and it makes sense
The Dow at 30k now wouldn’t be the same as the Dow would be at 30k last year.

Robinhood has flooded the market with so many idiots, now idiots are the most important demographic of investors (other than computers). They run the show now.

>>20079308
Have you gone back to /b/ yet?

>>20079301
Essentially normally during an economic recession you would expect things like asset prices to fall like housing, property, stocks etc. which is bad for people who own those assets (i.e. the wealthy who are in control of fiscal and monetary policy, as well as boomers who are living off their 401k). In order to counteract the (hopefully temporary) economic contraction the Fed employs a number of tools to essentially "prop up" the economy until productivity returns to previous levels. They do this by reducing the interest rate of credit loans to banks to 0%, injecting money into the economy suppressing Treasury bond yields, and more recently buying corporate bonds (debt). This all incentivizes money to flow into productivity. However, a lot of this money is simply re-entering the asset market (which is deemed a more secure store of wealth than simply holding on to your dollars or doing something like opening a business). This drives the cost of assets up, despite the real economy contracting, after all where else would you want yo put your money right now?

The problem is that this intentionally creates a bubble between the real economy and asset prices, with the Fed in between the two holding the bubble up. If the real economy never truly recovers (like what happened after the 2008 crash) and the Fed starts to pull back their monetary policy then it leaves the very real risk of the bubble popping and a crash occurring that will make the 08 crisis and great depression look like child's play. If you aren't scared after reading that, then you should probably read it again or do more research on your own to truly understand how fucked we are and how there is little we can do except kick the can down the road and inflate the bubble more.

>>20080930
True, haven’t felt any economic pains. In fact this is the best year I’ve had economically. Paid most my debts, only debt I have is my mortgage, got an alright job. It’s chill.

>>20079355
>things will be like this until election, no idea what happens after that
fuck if trump loses its over isnt it

>>20079620
This isn't hyperinflation, you're being trolled by a Biden supporting doomer. It's all good man, 7.5 million jobs created in the last 60 days, unlike tards the market is able to look ahead further than a few days.

>>20081220
idiots were always the most important demographic of investors. The big guys start the trend but they need the idiots to hold the bags in the end

>>20079301
Gold just hit 1800 faggot.

Inflation think in value not dollars you faggot and look at the prices.

Take the dow and divide it by the price of gold, oil take your house divide it by gold by the down

Look what’s undervalued and go there.

Switch from equities, real estate, cash, gold to actually make it.

>>20079367
>defund the military/police
holy shit biden would do it too wouldnt he?

Because we are in a bubble right now. The impact of the recession/depression hasn't hit us yet. Like in 2007. The mortgages started defaulting like a year before the shit really hit the fan. With this financial crisis its weird, becuase people thought it was covid at first it was obvious, so everyone panic and crashed the market. Then everyone thought "its over lol back to normal" and are pumping it back to ATH, covid detracting them from the underlying financial crisis.

The thing to realize is that these markets aren't like bags of money, where you have to put in X amount to get a market cap to a certain level. When a bunch of people are buying with no sellers prices just goes way up and if you multiple price times number of shares it looks like its ridiculous money coming in buts its not really its just buyers that are market buying.

Its sustainable until people actually start selling again. But once it starts it will be obvious again and there will be a massive dump. Its almost impossible to know when though but it will come and people will look back and be "surprised" like they were in 2008 even though it was really obvious people just deluded themselves with greed.

>>20081331
This.
Asset prices are up because nobody is feeling the pain to seek because everybody is floated with money at the moment. However this is a tight balancing act. Too little and the market deflates too much and inflation in the real world would not hit in 1-2 years but already now.

>>20079733
Let's say I'm retarded and don't even know what equities are, really. Is that real estate? Please just write out instructions that a potato IQ like won't be able to fuck up.

>>20079301
Because most of those jobs are unproductive meme jobs.

Can't be ignorant and free

Watch The Big Short. The entire market is a fraudulent cartel run by Wall Street and the ratings agencies. The numbers are made up and completely untethered to reality.

>>20081408
It's already over, you just can't see it yet

So how long until it all falls apart? Right now it's just being propped up by fed printers, mortgage forbearance, etc. It can't last forever though. And then there are the people who think all the economic shutdown and unemployment don't matter because "lmao those are just low tier wagies". And this sentiment completely ignores the fact that everything is connected, and a large group of people not having money to spend on other stuff has downstream ramifications for all businesses, as we saw with 2008 where it wasn't just real estate that got fucked.

Also, what is even the right play right now? Store your wealth in cash and it's just going to get hyperinflated away. Put it in stonks and those will crash. Crypto was supposed to be the safe haven from this bullshit, but that is also now basically 100% correlated with stonks anyway. Fucked no matter what.

>>20082016
Crypto decoupled from stocks a couple days ago in the negative direction. It is dumping while stocks are holding. Either wait a few weeks and buy crypto when it’s low again, or start buying gold stocks now before you’re outpriced. FED fuckery will only buy so much time before the house of cards collapses.

>>20079301

None of those jobs have anything to do with the profitability of the company, GDP, or the economy as a whole.

Tldr
>Money printer go brrrrrr

>doomer thread
fuck off

>>20079504
stocks are the ultimate PnD now. there is no such thing as investment in the stock market. its just pumps and dumps based on news cycles, which are all controlled by a ruling oligarchy. literally all news is owned by 5 companies. those 5 companies are owned by 3 different billionaires. think about that

>>20079301
Stocks are not a thermometer of the economy. If you drop that retarded idea that it is, then it makes sense.

We just had a major disruption to the market. There's a tsunami of releveraging and rearranging going on, and people buying back in, because they bailed on FUD.

You also have to factor in most of the "news" about the economy is propaganda at this point, to sway the upcoming elections. Then put it through the lens of retardation called /biz - and we have your post.

Educate yourself, retard. The stock market can and does decouple itself from the overall economy, because - wait for it - it's not the economy. Never was.

>>20079301
>obvious dip approaches
>everyone and the family dog buys in

>USA getting to re-close again.
>People think this is the second wave.
>In reality, we never dealt with the problem in the first place
>This is very well still the first wave
>States that planned on re-opening or closing back down
>Those jobs that were created, are going to have to shut back down
>More people dying a day now
>Some people still haven't gotten their stimulus check yet
>Stock at an all time high
Honestly, they have to continue to pump the market. Can you imagine if they actually allowed it to run it's course? All fucking hell would break loose. Hell, we've already seen it. Look at all of those riots and how long they've lasted. All of those people out of work and some jobs are simply not returning. Pandora's Box cracked open. We are using the might of Zeus and the other gods/goddess to hold it. If this market fucking crashes. What do you think is going to happen? The US Government has to do this. It's a necessary evil.

>>20082553
>We are using the might of Zeus and the other gods/goddess to hold it. If this market fucking crashes. What do you think is going to happen? The US Government has to do this. It's a necessary evil.
After the first pump the Feds powers are weakened as they now come with much more side effects, but they must keep fighting. They plan to use 'the magic' again, but they know that a high price must be made to use it.

The economy is being propped up by insane, unprecedented QE.
The Fed will stop eventually, probably after the election, then the bottom will fall out of the financial system in a way unprecedented since the 1970s inflationary crisis.

>>20081331
I mean, hasn't asset-price inflation been going on for over 30 years now? What's the timeline to this massive crash?

>>20081431
these trumptards try to act like the entire shit isn't going down on orange man's watch but it is. He fucked it up way quicker and worse than most other people would have. Dude is a failure obviously look at his private business bankruptcies.. but the worst part is he enabled the looting.. they are stealing from you and you are saying "thank you sir, may I please have another?" Lower middle-class Trumptards are unironically the biggest cucks on the planet.

>>20083416
>Lower middle-class Trumptards are unironically the biggest cucks on the planet.
This.
You’re poor and your life is shit, but vote republicuck. Actual autism lol

>>20081220
Imagine believing that people with $600 in their Robinhood accounts are responsible for the stock market pump

>>20082279
Yeah, and this is even disregarding meme penny stocks that are getting ridden by robin hood zoomers. Stocks performance has been 100% determined by news blitzes, social media frenzies and optical illusions for a while now. I started really noticing it last year with SPCE, BYND and Tilray. Every month there is a new celebrity stock / IPO that everyone talks about and moons 300% for no reason other than everyone is talking about it. And a lot of these like TSLA are big cap fuckers, they are not being moved by zoomers' lunch money.

The whole this is a mirage that more and more closely approximates the substanceless of crypto as time progresses.

>>20081331
So whats the ETA on Americas Collapse looking like bros?

>>20081408
You act like it makes any difference at all. You act like different people are actually in charge every 4 or 8 years lmao

>>20081518

No, no he wouldn't.

>>20083222
>>20083941

Yes, assets have continually grown faster than wages for decades now, increasingly faster after 2008. The asset crash barely even happened before the Fed stepped in and took the reins - things never returned to their "real" price. There is no timeline, you have to watch 10yr bond yields and inflation charts daily if you really want to know when it's coming, as well as watch what the Fed is doing or plans to do. It could be 3 months from now or 10 years from now. Investors are watching these movements too and it's basically a game of chicken when these investment firms dump their portfolios and bet against the market causing a domino crash.

I'd wager we need to crash, but do so at a rate that is sustainable instead of a huge dump.

>>20079301

It's simple, It's all done by computers and It's all manipulated by (((them))): Dump on the top of the peak so poor retards can bite in, then let the motherfucker plummet like a rock and let the previously mentioned poor retards take the hit.

Rich get richer, poor get poorer.

TLDR: Turbo jews manipulate the system to sell high right before the collapse, retards buy said shit, all done and manipulated by computers.

>>20079301
There is no fundamental connection between the price of a stock and the performance/profit margin of a company, besides the threat of bankruptcy and dividend payments/yields. The price of these assets is mediated by the supply and demand of the market. This demand is driven by fear and its opposite: hope. Its pure speculation. Everyone buys with the hope of a “greater fool” to buy their bags so they can take profit. This subjective, intermediate layer of human perception is what allows the market to function. Its what enables the “market” in the first place. Earnings are only important insofar as they influence the perceptions of prospective investors about the health of the company. By going public, and thus selling off ownership to raise capital, the ponzi begins. Money from some investors pumps the price, while other investors cash out with this money by taking profits.

>>20079301
inflation google it

>>20083956
I think it was Frank Zappa who said that politics is just the entertainment division of the military industrial complex. That was like 40 years ago thought, so I’d amend it to the military industrial financial complex

Ok here's the deal biz, this is 2020 in a globalised world where emerging markets like China, India and even Africa are potential huge growth markets. There are so many potential growth opportunities it's crazy, and many places for newly printed dollars to go that makes hyperinflation unlikely.

The stock market is all about future growth and potential now, they might be making less earnings now in the short term but more assets are being built that the market believes the future will be full of new growth which is indicative of its performance

>>20084074
very clever and based man, that Zappa
wise and hard working as well, really dedicated to his craft

>>20084118

China will have negative growth this yr

>>20084330
China should be best Korea’d

Jews

>>20079301
its because there's not really a problem, only brainlets think there is and they're all linked up together in the things that are failing

>>20084486
>being such a waste of space that you lost your job over corona
lol stay mad

>>20084486
Which Jews?

>>20084057
Which jews?

>>20079301
I thought that was a red tiger AK47
How much EPIC for one of those?

>>20082016
Your ancestors knew the answer to this question. Come home to real money.

>>20083460
Yes, poor whites should vote fuck wypipo party instead.

>>20082782
So what you're saying is that we need to give them our energy?

>>20086195

Yeah theres asteroids in space worth quintillions because they are loaded with precious metals

>>20083460
>>20083416
democracy in a multi-racial society always degenerates into a racial headcount. Aristotle noticed this in his day, so I'm not sure why its a strange concept to you now.

>>20081331
>>20083222
>>20083941
>>20084054
BoJ has been pumping the nikkei for over 20 years now, buying over 80% (not a typo) of JPN ETFs and bailing out the keiretsu by gobbling up corp bonds ....
Don't hold your breath for a stock market crash

>>20086220
And by the time its actually profitable to mount an asteroid mining operation the value of PMs would need to be over 100k/oz of gold. Also, what exactly is your plan as an asteroid miner JimJam?
>Pay fuck tons to get this asteriod into orbit and harvest all its metals
>Instantly collapse the price of gold due to the new supply glut.
>Literally impossible to recoup the cost of the expedition.
Face it, you couldn't get business loan for funeral parlor in Baltimore.

>>20086287
one hour of socially necessary abstract labor time is the unit of value
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emnYMfjYh1Q

>>20086294

Cope, it's going to happen someday, also manufacturered scarcity doesn't seem to affect the diamond industry

There's iridium, palladium and all kinds of rare metals that are necessary for producing shit the gold and platinum will be icing on the cake

>>20081611
Just stop trying. Contribute to a 401k and work until 65. If you can’t even do a google search you do NOT belong on any investing forums.

>>20086372
>someday
Nigger it took us 20+ years to get men on the moon after poaching the best Nazi rocket scientists we could get. And we still haven't been back, because we don't have the knowledge base to do it. If you want to invest in a space mining startup before the 2150s you can right ahead Timmy.

>>20079733
I have 50k in cash right now, what should I be doing to protect my nest?

>>20084074
based

>>20086585
keep 40,000 in cash for the next year as emergency reserve
invest 6700 in VTSAX, 3300 in VTIAX

>>20079301

>>20079504
>You seem like an old fag since you pulled out 1984 numbers
Fucking hell mate

>>20083941
I've always felt a sense of inevitability about it - like we were on an arc of history of some sorts and we are destined to hit it sometime around or a little before whites reaching 50% of the population around 2045

I know that isn't the most scientific way of looking at it, its just gives a sense of time

Either way I think we have at least a decade of this crap

>>20081518
you’re a retard. lol

>>20079301
>How on earth is it possible that indexes, individual stocks Crypto and the rest of the financial world go up back to ATH territory and maybe above

Interest rates are zero. It doesnt matter if stocks are going to profit 2% a year instead of 5% a year because bonds are yielding 0%

>everyone and their mom is in fear/doubt/disbelief about a positive outcome of a two month global lockdown which caused an ATH in unemployment rates, bankruptcies, supplchain breaks, lower GDP, unpaid rents/loans....and so on!!??

This is just not true. I try and book a restaurant following lockdown end and everywhere is fully booked. There's going to be a V shaped recovery.

>>20084784
>Which jews?
he told you: Turbo Jews

because rich people don't give a shit about you

>>20079301
>Please Explain

Easy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYc6QmaGnYc

>>20079301
People are chasing non shit returns

I'm moving into a new home soon. How long untill the bubble pops? As soon as I move in i'll be stockpiling supplies for the upcoming depression.

>>20081882
They can hide the ball but they can't make it disappear, the market is not some fucking fairy tale the fed can just make up, America is up the ass in corruption but that doesn't mean the music isn't real and it's about to get ugly again.

I was in Clark county Nevada "las Vegas" in 2008 when the housing market crashed, las Vegas was considered the epicenter of the crash, I am in Oregon now and the exact same phenomena plus 20+ is happening, shit ton of housing sings 4 sale, unemployment up the ass.

This time is worst, waaay fucking worst, back then this same bald faggot was saying to buy, to not be afraid that everything was cool until the music just fucking stopped.

I am afraid the music will stop pretty soon again and this time is going to get really fucking ugly, 2008 is going to look like a wall in the park compared to what is about to happen

And to answer your question OP it takes time for the economy to show its current status, it will make sense later in the year

>>20088398
>V shaped recovery.

Everybody is fucking broke right now nigger and everybody is going to be broke for years to come, once the unemployment checks stop showing up shit will hit the fan, the only thing keeping this shit together is Jerome Powell's and his magic printing machine, once that shit gets worn out people are going up start killing each other for a piece of bread

>>20079301
Don't cry, buy some ARPA and wait for Asia's recovery which is imminent. (also, the MPC bubble)

>>20081331
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ8NY9_i45M

>>20079371

Came here for this.

It's like the building is on fire and everyone inside will die, but because a bunch of oxygen has been pumped into the building we're all happy and confident even though our complete demise is just around the corner.

The stock market gains or losses are heavily based on consumer confidence, not actual profits and losses. So keep that in mind.

>>20083416
Too big to fail retard. Get a fucking grip

Here is a progression of my net worth
that sharp little dip was your stupid little doomer panic
those little bumps earlier were much sharper dips when they were more recent
the latest sharp dip will look as small as those when the next dip happens
that dip will in turn look smaller after the dip following that
yet the line keeps climbing
it's always been climbing
it has literally never stopped climbing

get fucked, stay poor and retarded shit for brain doomers

>>20089384
You have until election day

>>20086585
Unironically bitcoin. Hold for at least two years, then start taking profits by dollar cost averaging out of the market. Hopefully, you’ll be able to do something useful with those dollars in a few years, if not just stay in crypto or buy some PM with crypto.

>>20079301
>Be rich af gremlin
>Keep your wage slaves in a cage
>Economy crashes
>Unemployment through the roof
>Businesses all over country close doors forever
>Run stories about racism in your newspaper
>Fund colour revolution in your already troubled country
>Collect billions while hundreds of millions suffer
>Nobody cares
>Profit

>>20091022
Is Bezos a Jewish name? Asking for no particular reason

>>20081331
>the fed starting to pull back
The nigger cattle won't wake up. Never did. Never will.

>>20084486
At least you get free payments no matter what, cucknadians get $1200 USD only under strict circumstances that include having made about 2x minimum wage in the job they lost and not having applied for employment insurance when that started. Moreover it's taxable income (so if you get your job back you're giving 25-50% of it back outright) and we'll see greatly increased taxes at the outset of all this.

>>20079355
individual investors dont move the market
this market is solely going up to jay powell

>>20091022
kek this, reminder that SJWs are propeled by wall street. They don't want another Occupy, that's why media blast us with "white man bad - Trump bad" all day everyday.

>>20091094
Know what other name is not jewish? Gates. Know what else? Buffett. Also Ellison and Arnault.
I'm telling you for no particular reason.

3 trillion dollars printed out of thin air and funneled into wall street.

BY THE WAY, I voted trump in 2016. I deemed the money needed by dems to make a more socialized healthcare system to be too high. Instead, trump just gave that money away to wall st. Remember that next time any candidate talks about fiscal responsibility. This country is a joke. If 2020 doesn't prove to you that this country doesn't care about its common populace, you are definitely an American.

>>20091914
If you needed to wait until 2020 to figure that out, you're assuredly american't.

>>20079301
>BioAnal Sys
Not one comment about this. Disappointed in you gentlemen.

>>20091946
Every generation has its wallah moment.

>>20079355
i actually trade in robinhood and NO way in hell are we moving the market.
the real market movers and makers are in wall st.
some guys 10,000 dollar live savings is nothing compared to the near infinite fiscal a mm can put into the system.(along with the feds printing help)
if you are actually thinking its individual traders then thats what wall st and big money WANTS you to think LOL.

>>20081533
It’s not impossible to know when. Boomers aren’t selling because they need those bags to live in retirement. They have no income otherwise. All boomer retirement money is in the stock market. When they die, their kids will sell. In about 10 years we will start to see a downward spiral which will escalate until stocks are fairly priced again at which point those same kids will reinvest because mass media tells them it’s safe and prices have never been better. This will also likely lead to the fall of some large companies and the rise of some newer ones to top spots since people tend to bet on things they know.

>>20092045
100 kids with 10k each is $1m.
1m kids and adults averaging 10k each is $10b.
>While Robinhood might have more than 10 million accounts versus E-Trade’s 5.2 million and Morgan Stanley’s 3 million, E-Trade’s average account size is $69,230 and Morgan Stanley’s is $900,000, while a survey found most of Robinhood’s held $1,000 to $5,000.
That's $30b for robinhood alone and many people shilled against robinhood anyway, with every broker getting record numbers of new users.
$2.7t are controlled by MS and $210b at etrade.

>>20079301
Fuck back off to r*ddit.com. This is a QE megacap tech growth bullchad board.

>>20079301
>Please explain to me.

bond market that is the biggest market in the world is destroyed all rates are 0% execpt usa
thus money will go to equites and real estate,
and real estate is not as good anymore it
peaked and is just holding prices at best

>>20079301
It’s all about taking out Trump from office and destroying the fossil fuel energy to install a New World Green Order ans communist regime to suppress humanity. The free world will be China and Russia
The civil unrest that’s coming is unimaginable. They really think that people will accept another lockdown.
Fucking idiots

>>20092332
>trump isn't a leftist

>>20092346
No he’s not
He’s to smart to be one

>>20081408
>fuck if trump loses its over isnt it
If Trump loses, I'm only keeping gun stocks.

But if Trump wins, I don't even know.

>>20086326
fuck off, commiefag

>>20079733
Cash is fine if it's not USD. All in IDR

>>20091760
Gates converted to judiasm, buffet's a jew, too

>>20093440
54% of world wealth is controlled by protestant christians, typically of irish ancestry (with some scotts mixed in).
Jews control only 2% of world wealth.
However, jews are a larger fraction of millionaires, but since you automatically become a millionaire by taking a typical jewish profession like banker or doctor, that's a bad metric.

>>20093625
>54% of the world's wealth
Hahahahahaha no. Not even close. The top 20 richest kikes have trillions. Not billions, trillions.

>>20091094
No, Bezos isn't a Jew as far as I know, but he and (((Zuckerberg))) ended up with about 19% of all the wealth transferred during the market "crash".

>>20093641
According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%), and Jews (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth.[3]

A study done by the nonpartisan wealth research firm New World Wealth found that 56.2% of the 13.1 million millionaires in the world were Christians,[4] while 6.5% were Muslims, 3.9% were Hindu, and 1.7% were Jewish; 31.7% were identified as adherents of "other" religions or "not religious".

>>>/pol/

>>20092204
this

>>20093853
Did the study account for european royalty?
Did the study follow official wealth counts, like Guiness, who do not report European royalty?
Did the study do any analysis of the flow of money and business ownership?

You're wrong, friend.

>>20094163
Cope and seethe, /pol/tard.

>>20093853
It's probably bullshit.
Ever wonder how the "richest man in the world" is Bezos and not a Rothschild? Hmm...

>>20094244
I agree that all their arguments against jews are bull but most of those rich lists don't include royalty. Noone knows how much the rothschilds own because it's not public knowledge and because of that, conspiracy theorists can make up any amount of money and claim the rothschilds are trillionaires and noone can prove them wrong.

>>20094216

>>20094244
Because the rothschild have many children for many generations, thus diluting single-individual wealth despite keeping the same family-wide advantage. If the stats were about the richest families instead of the richest people, you might be right.
The walton, mars, slim and ortega aren't jews. I think the koch are jews but not sure. They are, including the koch, the richest 5 families (not individuals) in the world, but this time excluding royalty.
Among the richest royals (not families but individuals), not one is jewish in the top-10, which is:
https://www.businessinsider.com/royal-family-net-worth-worlds-richest-billionaires-ranked-2018-5?IR=T#1-king-maha-vajiralongkorn-thailand-10
(most are arabs. Indeed, arabs control many american business as well, for example twitter is majority-owned by a saudi oil prince).
Here's a different source with the top-21:
https://ceoworld.biz/2019/09/18/these-are-the-worlds-richest-royals-2019/
Still no jew.
For families, you can see things like
https://www.lovemoney.com/gallerylist/71850/richest-royal-families-world-ranked
(again, no jews).
Out of the rothschilds, only Benjamin de Rothschild appears in the list of top billionaires. His net worth being around $2b, and being placed at position >1120 out of 2233 (last ranked billionaire is Miguel McKelvey of wework and is technically no longer on the list, his net worth is "only" $0.7b. Still, it means at best, every rothschild except benjamin has less than $0.7b).

>>20094415
I recall an analysis that was basically "follow the money" concluded that the rothschilds each have trillions. Hard to determine.

>>20094216
Stay wrong, bizraeli.

>>20094244
Also your pic is a perfect example of what I mentioned: there are more jew millionaires than any other group, but not only is this a very low bar, it doesn't scale to total wealth. 50% of jews control $1t and the top 3 Christians control $1t also, for example, despite all of them being millionaire (ass-pulled numbers to illustrate).

>>20094163
Then your issue is with royalty. Not Jews as a group. You also need reasonable proof for your claims before anything should happen to people who you target simply because their wealth is anonymous.

>>20094593
Nope, not royalty. Jews, specifically the top 10 richest jews in the world.

>>20094529
>follow the money
>each rothschild is a trillionaire
>except 99% of the trillion overlap between all the rothschilds
It's like those ebin pics of companies owned by jews that /pol/ likes so much, where they highlight the same name in 5 positions to pretend the company is 5/7 jewish when it's actually 1/3 jewish.

>>20094529
And i've seen an anslysis tgat cpncluded the rothscjilds have only $2billion. The jew haters on pol always jump to conclusions about jews with little to no evidence but if someone posts peer reviewed studies to dispute their claims demonizing jews suddenly every little potential hole in every study becomes a massive issue in their heads.

You have to use the same standard of evidence for everything. Not just pick and choose based on a biased predetermined belief.

>>20094664
That analysis is wrong. You haven't posted any studies, and peer reviewing is a ponzi.

have this, kike.

>>20094601
So you don't hate judaism or Jews as a group. They can do what they want. You just want justice to come for the top ten richest Jews. That's fair. But what about including rich evil people of all cultures. Corruption syemming from money/power is not excusive to rich Jews.

>>20094715
Oh, I do hate Judiasm, no doubt about that. It teaches horrible things.

I don't hate jews, just all the rich ones that control the media and most of the wealth in the world. Let's solve the jew problem before we solve the rich problem, you pilpuling kike

I'm triggered by how delusional OP is.
>some harmless flu thats dangerous for pensioners
>lost jobs of people who if they mattered wouldnt be fired to begin with
>some slackers using this to be overdue on their rent
>"we hate racism" duckspeak
If you think anyone of importance gives a flying fuck about anything of this, you're clearly not anyone of importance.

has the stock market ever been linked to the "actual economy" in any meaningful sense?

>>20094959
if a public company goes bankrupt their stock goes to zero

>>20094679
Another example to what the other anon was saying: there aren't just 2 possibilities, it's a false dichotomy. In fact, the main thesis of the holocaust thesis is that the bones and ashes were buried without cremulation. Example:
>The Soviet Extraordinary State Commission determined that over 200,000 people were killed in Janowska in the course of the camp operation. The ashes mixed with crushed bones were buried to a depth of six feet in various places
>Police say they found bones at the site of the World War II Plaszow concentration camp after a company did gas pipeline maintenance work there. Krakow police spokesman Mariusz Ciarka said Tuesday the bones have been sent for forensic examination to determine if they are human.

>>20094726
By your very logic, if you solve the rich problem, you automatically also solve the jew problem. It's always been very strange that your ilk can't see this. Are you saying that buffett and gates are on your side? When has bezos tried to NOT boost racemixing agendas and white genocide? What about Jack Dorsey (a literal anti-semite who often talks about the jq and consults people who constantly harp on about muh jews; he is the owner of twitter)? It's almost like someone doesn't want you to notice and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Kill all the rich (jewish or not) and you no longer have a problem with rich jews (as you see them) fucking with you. At the same time, suddenly almost everyone can get on your side. 2 birds 1 stone. If you're wrong about the jews, no skin off your back. If you're right, even sheeple from blm and other sjw outlets will help you kill all jews.

>>20095065
Uuuuuuuuh anon?
>JCP
>HTZ
>CHKAQ

>>20079301
>governments across the world stage meaningless forced unemployment because 'muh rona!'
>a drop across the board means EVERYONE takes a hit
>only in the USA is a 'i don give a fuq' president
>only in the USA is the dollar what people in other countries invest in as a kind of psuedo-gold

maybe if there was a place on earth right now that hadn't shut down, had a gdp comparable to even california and had a bullish president who wants people to make money.... MAYBE then the dollar, and the storks, wouldn't KEEP GOING UP.

right now the news is covering fake news. politicians are talking about fake talking points. and everyone is still optimistic on the ground level because 4 years ago we already ran through something like this when trump was elected.

>i just dont get it
stop being an unscientific idiot. if you dont get it, the problem isn't with WHAT IS OBSERVABLY HAPPENING, but WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

so many people reveal what kind of absolutely anti-america and anti-money people they really are by saying things like op faggot's post.

>it's only up from here BUT HOW the pile of shit economy smells like boiling cat piss to me. It makes no sense at least to me.

STOP
WATCHING
THE
NEWS

look outside you fucking idiot. places with riots, places with second wave close downs, these are all just blown out of proportion. the truth is LIFE goes on.
>everything wrong with america
always fucking baits me. always. if you dont like it fucking leave. dont invest in america, go invest in fucking china you dipshits, or russia, or LAMO EU!!!11!! WHERE THE FUCK ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE YOUR MONEY?
yeah that's right sit down and invest in america big beta bucks

>>20079301
>How on earth is it possible that indexes, individual stocks Crypto and the rest of the financial world go up back to ATH territory and maybe above while everyone and their mom is in fear/doubt/disbelief about a positive outcome of a two month global lockdown which caused an ATH in unemployment rates, bankruptcies, supplchain breaks, lower GDP, unpaid rents/loans....and so on!!?

Because investors know what is going on, and everyone and their mom is watching the largely fictional TV show called "the news"

What was being priced in during the March crash was an expected 4.5 million dead and the total extinction of several entire industries. None of this happened, and the global apocalypse turned out to be about twice as deadly as the common seasonal flu.

People are unemployed, but thanks to unemployment insurance and stimulus checks, nobody's starving, and millions of people are going back to work each month. Basically we all got a 3-month paid vacation and some old fat Boomer died, most of whom, statistically, would be dead within a couple years anyway

>>20095099
>STOP
>WATCHING
>THE
>NEWS

This. People really need to understand that in the 21st century, THE NEWS is just a TV show. Its audience is a product that is then sold to advertisers, and so therefore they will say and do anything in order to keep the audience tuning in every single night, or in the case of 24 hour networks, to keep THE NEWS on all day.

It has only the barest necessary relevance to what's actually going on.

>>20095073
Nope, the rich problem originates from, but is not entirely contained within, the jew problem.

We need to solve the kike problem first, kike.

>>20090153
You're fuckin retarded, oxygen is the actual fuel fire is burning if you input oxygen in to anything burning you get it to go super nova watch any melting furnace idiot.

>>20090852
>started during the bullrun
Nice entry. shit crop.

>>20090482
>Too big to fail retard

Yeah, keep telling yourself that as China keeps dumping dollars in to an already hyper inflated market, nothing is too big too fail and Michael burry proved that.

>>20081450
What is undervalued? Everything seems overvalued.

>>20095375
Kill the rich and no person with power (jew or not) can save the jews. Or you can see that all the problems are resolved. Eitherway, you win. Go after the jews first and the rich will end you permanently. You lose regardless.

>>20095640
>>20083416

I have started to enjoy when the obvious cable news victims out themselves

>>20095720
>Everything seems overvalued.
see
>>20095181

The March dip was the buy of a lifetime, but pretty much all asset classes are still a bargain. No matter who wins in November, we'll probably see the Dow at 38,000 next year.

>>20095747
>He thinks I watch tv

Let me guess, you're an edgy 20 some kid who is too wise for his age because he visits this trap infested shit hole to find out about pump and dumps.

I told everyone the market will halt in to a grind in 2008 and everybody told me I was nuts, the market will crash and fucking burn this time around funny thing it'll be the rich who suffer this time

>>20095777
So buy leveraged ETF like UDOW or PM's or BTC/ETH/LINK? I don't see how you can predict so far into the future.

>>20095073
hey guys let's believe the soviet propaganda and then bones being found that were never actually tested.

>>20095967
>soviet propaganda by non-soviets
>bones just mysteriously happened to be on the purported locations of the mass-graves and the camps by pure coincidence, nothing to see here aryan

>>20079301
If we lined up the bottom half of society and shot them all in the head what would be the overall effect on human progress?

>>20095999
No one to mop your floors, serve you coffee, or give you a sense of superiority. If you are at the 51st percentile you'd now be the scum of the earth

>>20095835

Nah, I was around for 2008 too, and I made a small fortune then as well.

The thing is, I understand why now is different from 2007-2008, and how it's actually kind of the direct opposite situation.

>>20095946

I'm lazy so I'm mostly into Boomer index funds and airline stocks for another easy easy mid-term 2x, and then gambling on shitcoins for fun.

PM will make you sad, at least in the short term, I'm pretty sure. The Fed's fighting DEFLATION, not inflation, right now, as capital flees Europe and the emerging markets for the safe haven of the USD. They cannot allow that pressure to start a deflationary spiral, so that means the money printer is pretty guaranteed to go brr for a long time, meaning big gains still ahead with zero inflation. Basically Europe is begging to lend us huge sums of money at any rate of interest as long as it's not negative.

There's also an election coming up, which means Trump is going to be throwing money out the window, and Europe has handed him a blank check. The worse he's doing, the more he's going to spend. Expect another round of stimulus, airline recapitalization, all sorts of stuff that crashed in March should be hitting ATH soon.

The one wildcard is commercial urban real estate, which quarantine has demonstrated to be basically obsolete and huge overhead that nobody really needs to pay any more. Long-term that's an apocalypse that's going to happen. But Trump's a real estate guy so there might be a bailout coming for them too.

>>20095740
Kill the jews, allow people to continue getting rich without their influence, kill the bad rich, done.

IMF says economy back on track til 2022, set to grow 5%. If you til 2022 to invest then assets will be too expensive. If you look ahead and see bright times then you can safely buy stocks.
That's what has happened. Yeah Q2 is gonna be bad, Q3 might be bad, but then the worst is over.

>>20096132
The rich already prevent you from doing anything about the jews. Did you even read?
Name a single rich who isn't the caricature of evil. You literally can't. Meanwhile, even on /pol/ you have le based jew xd every so often.

>>20096082
Are you familiar with the pareto principle?
In modern first world societies over 90% of people live off the productivity of the apex producers
What happens to a business if is income remains the same and its overhead drops by 90%?

>>20096158
The rich don't prevent it, the jews prevent it by controlling the rich through pedophilia.

>>20096405
>the richest people in the world, who control 55% of the entire world's wealth
>somehow controlled by less than 1.5% of the world's wealth
Good aryan, us rich are your friends! That's why we import all those shitskins and make sure the laws only apply when used against you. Are you tired of winning yet my fellow aryan?

>>20095073

>>20096090
I was going to buy a few ounces of platinum but I guess I'll wait to see if there's another guaranteed stimulus then the plan is unfolding as you say it is and I'll put it into stocks that crashed instead.

>>20096437
Not sure what your point is. Jack Dorsey is the twitter CEO and not a jew, yet he's openly anti-semitic and consults with antisemites. Despite this, he is actively anti-white.

the reason actually is the end of Nafta, which the (((media))) won't tell you about
It's been fucking US economy so bad that the simple thing it ends shoudl boost the US economy
the democrats are trying to frighten the electorate with the pandemic narrative both to ease up Biden's election and both to slow donw the recovery before the election

>>20096495
The exception hardly proves the rule. That or he’s controlled opposition

>>20096513
NAFTA benefits the US long term a hell of a lot more than outsourcing everything to China, a geopolitical rival and potential usurper to the status quo

>>20096528
What exception? Jews are the exceptions in the world of the rich. Christians are the rule, with hindus and muslims, in that order, following close behind. Of the 21 richest people in the world, the majority are muslim.

>>20096513
What is so bad about trading with Canada and Mexico? If some loser can do your job for less then you have a loser job to begin with.

>>20096435
They're not my friends, the people who have the ability to accumutate wealth should be able to.

Except jewish.

>>20096577
> If some loser can do your job for less then you have a loser job to begin with.
Canadians are overeducated because there are so few jobs in the country the competition forces them to get a master's degree to do what you can do with a highschool degree in the US (no joke). They are also severely underpaid and overworked for the same reason. Simultaneously they are overcharged in taxes and cost of life, which is on the edge of overtaking the biggest american cities despite salaries being lower than the smallest city's wages in a US flyover.
Thus, canadians can do highly skilled labor about 75% as well as americans can, for a criminally low fraction of the cost: they are the highly-skilled version of indian labor. That said, there is no way to have a job that a canadian could not replace you in so long as it's remote-capable. Thus, in fact, only loser jobs can't be replaced by a canadian. That's where mexicans come in.

>>20083956
If trump wins all this crazy shit will be over, I can assure you that... there simply isn't any reason to continue the chaos at that point... he'll serve 4 more years and thats that, so that gives us about 3 years of peace, then its on to WW3

>>20086195
>buy my shiny rocks

>>20093625

Kek if you actually believe this, what is known is not even the tip of the iceberg, the ones you know nothing about (Jewish banking families) They controm all the world.

And yes /pol/ is always right

This thread should demonstrate why the market is fucked right now. Take note, OP.

>the dip of a lifetime!
We haven’t even seen the bottom. We will go lower than March lows and anyone thinking funny money will change that is delusional. Assets weren’t even worth their value before the virus, and now everything is shut and companies aren’t making enough profits to survive let alone pay dividends.

>Trump/Powell/Robinhood constitutes real support and provides real value
Ah yes, and all that same fiscal support/new traders in 2001 kept Pets.com chugging along fine.

OP, we are basically in 2007. Everyone admits we are in a bubble. Some people try to rationalise it away or say it isn’t as big as it seems. These people are going to lose everything when it well and truly pops. It will make March look like a joke. It will all come crashing down in November AT THE LATEST but if you buy in before that expecting to find a greater fool, or don’t get out early while you can, then you should expect to lose everything to a random event to trash confidence. It might even be enough that the US will reach 100k new cases a day in a few months. Who knows. But it will pop. Sit on the sidelines and wait for the pink wojaks before going into the markets again.

>>20098288
>We haven’t even seen the bottom. We will go lower than March lows and anyone thinking funny money will change that is delusional.

Nah.
The shadowbanking and hedge funds that were caught on the wrong side of trade were responsible for the forced selling that crushed gold and quality and everything but the USD.

These segments unwound their trades and we’re bailed out by the treasury department. I’d wager that’s where a lot of the “stimulus” is going.

Those were the lows. Do you really think, while big money is expecting a negative return from sovereigns and Treasuries, and every central bank except Sweden is running the printers full blast, and even France and the frugal Germany are finally agreeing to open the purse strings and desperately try to spend, and sovereign wealth funds, pension plans, and all the worlds wealthiest people are looking for something to do with all the money they’re getting... do you really think Lockheed Martin is only worth $270/share?

>>20096553
I don’t think he likes China either if he doesn’t like NAFTA

>>20082999
But why is the fed trying to help trump ? Wouldn’t Biden suck them off too ?

>>20098531
In real terms, its probably worth less than $270. The problem with suppressing yields on treasuries is that you need to keep printing money to buy up your own nation's debt. Eventually you can't keep up the charade and institute yield caps, and then you get to see the stock market soar to new heights in nominal terms, while the actual value of stocks compared to everything else eats shit and you devalue to currency used to buy these stocks.

The only alternative is ripping the band-aid off and letting yields naturally rise above 0.7% in real terms, which will cause a flood of money out of the market (and real estate). This nukes pensions and 401ks, while putting the localized QE based inflation that was hiding in some sectors into the economy at large. Why do you think consumer inflation hadn't risen at all while stocks and real estate soared over the last 10 years? All the money was going into bubbles. Bubbles which are ready to drown everything else.

>>20098531
>stonks go up because there's nowhere else to put your money!
I strongly suggest you read articles with this argument from around 2006-2007. Eye opening stuff.

>>20099474
The question is whether they can keep the charade going until November. Jerome said to Congress his aim is to inflate the problem away, and allow the markets to tank in real, rather than nominal, terms. My bet is that he can't. The whole market is built on a mixture of fear and hopium that stocks and assets are the only way to go. But the inflation hasn't kicked in yet to justify it, because the world has stockpiled dollars. This has created the enormous disparity between real value and nominal value, and the dollar is still worth something. imagine people will move back into it the second they realise shit is going down, and when they do, it won't be a 'gradual slow fall' like some peope in this thread are hoping for, because that is not how bubbles work. They are artificially inflated, and when they burst, they cannot burst slowly because the thing which made them have any worth at all is gone.

>>20095613
Congratulations, looks like you got the fucking point

>>20099474
>consumer inflation hasn’t soared
It has though. If you look at shadowstats or anything that doesn’t gimmick shit via hedonic adjustments the things people need (food, fuel, shelter, medical care) have skyrocketed. Shit people don’t need (consumer electronics) has gotten cheaper. It’s not just about cost to the consumer, the quality of shit has declined substantially (through the substitution of cheaper materials) and the quantity has stealthily decreased as well. A can of coke today contains less volume than it did ten years ago and the price had gone up. You dumb

>>20094528
interesting

>>20099662
>I strongly suggest you read articles with this argument from around 2006-2007. Eye opening stuff.
Got any that stand out?

>>20100207
In this context, to soar means to rapidly increase by orders of magnitude, not slowly creeping up. You also forgot that I'm speaking in comparative terms, Timmy. The price/oz of coke did not move at the same percent increase as home prices or bluechip stocks. Please keep the fuck up.

>>20100950
R-rudy is that you?

>>20099321

>>20079733
>high velocity
Velocity of money has been decreasing for decades.

>>20083514
this

>>20100840
I would listen to the people who mocked Peter Schiff back during the last bubble, and find out what else they wrote. I'm not saying he was right in the years since the last crash, but his understanding of the underlying causes of bubbles and crashes is par excellence. So find the people who make fun of bears like Schiff and then read into why they think the markets have nowhere to go but up. Usually it's unqualified idiots with their hot opinions and delusion.

From what I've seen the process occurs in this order:
>deny a bubble exists
>admit a bubble exists, but rationalise it
>admit an irrational bubble exists, but it will go up anyway because ____ (clown market)
>lose everything
The only catch is this process doesn't happen overnight, it happens over 6 months to 2 years. People become impatient. They see people making 10, 20, 30% gains and FOMO. But those paper gains are wiped out when everything tanks by 50-75%. What is currently happening now is people are FOMOing thinking the "dip" already came. It will not be a dip, it will be a crash. Robinhood investors are going to lose everything.

This speech is fantastic and explains what is occurring right now. But it was given in 2006. The key takeaway is the economy has not actually gotten better since 2008. The questions at the end are good to show you what the standard investors mindset was just as everything started to unravel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8rMwdQf6k

Here is some standard delusion from bubble deniers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgRGBNekFIw

I'm going to look for some specific articles and post them here.

>>20101190
https://stateraindexfund.wixsite.com/unofficial

Crypto currency index fund future

>>20089609
>everybody is fucking broke
Nah broke people are still broke. Everyone I know is financially doing very well this year.

>>20101474
Doing very well on paper or in real, tangible things? Everyone is likely to be better off than were they were 10 years ago, that is the effect of a bubble. However, if they are exposed to a downturn, whatever they have 'made' will be wiped away completely.

Do they:
>own their own property
>have any outstanding debt
>have sufficient savings to last them 3-6 months
>have a diversified portfolio
>have some cash to use in the event of an opportunity
If the answer is yes then they are indeed doing very well. But according to the statistics, this is an exceptionally tiny portion of the public at large. Either you happen to know lots of well off people, which is possible, or the people you know are doing very well on paper but are enormously exposed.

>>20079355
What a fucking masterstroke of a meme this is. Blame market movement on a bunch of turds that combined don't equal a fraction of the assets under management or buying power of say Bridgewater or Ren Tech with a 100+ buh buh buh billion dollars of AUM. Let alone those turds meaningfully coordinating their activities in anyway that would make them even come close to the market moving power of such firms. Nah, it's totally some 20 something year old kid in a dorm with $500 in his trading account swinging 10 shares of SLV every 3 days to avoid the pattern day trading rule... Fucking lol... How do these people even push this shit without busting up laughing. It's such blatant bullshit, it's like throwing a sheet over a girl's head as she's sucking your dick right when your girlfriend walks in and expecting to get away with it. It's just such flagrant bullshit.

>>20101546
It amazes me that there are so many people without even a spare 1k to fall back on, not even a several month reserve to tie them over if they're between jobs or something, just 1k. We've got a huge swath of the population essentially living hand to mouth, with no ability to tank a hit to their income or expenses.

>>20100950
>moves the goalposts
I reiterate: you dumb

>>20101835
What do you think "to soar" means in the context of discussing prices? I'd like to hear from the expert.

>>20101754
When the alternative is staying with your parents and not answering the Call to Adventure, not moving somewhere to take a chance on that new job, not starting a family, etc., sometimes it makes sense to take a chance, take out a little debt.

And once you have a little debt and learn to sleep at night knowing you have to pay that back somehow (unless you're capable of doing something like Trump has done with Deutche Bank), then maybe you realize how much a car would improve your life and it's only a few hundred a month out of your paycheck, and so on and so forth.

Human mind is flawed, incentives also reinforce irresponsible behavior, many such cases.

>>20101474
>Everyone I know

Dude! Really?

>>20079301
>Inb4 u go "but the FED..." go fuck yourself.
Lol yeah no wonder you dont understand

>>20079301
1. markets are forward looking so the market sees this as a temporary disruption - not a structural issue with the economy

2. fiscal and monetary stimulus

3. liquidity and loans

4. anecdotally i read that when people lose their jobs historically they spent 5% less. during these times, they spent 40% less. throw on record unemployment benefits, there's alot of pent up demand

5. the problem with unemployment is that people don't have money. in this instance, people have money from fiscal stimulus financed by debt.

>>20101754
Americans are worse than heroin addicts when it comes to spending. They want to spend every last penny in their own pockets, then when they're all out of money, they try to spend the money of everyone around them. I can't tell you how many dumb bitch millennial women have twisted a buddy's arm into giving her a "destination Disney princess wedding" with all the trimmings and how that shit has taken a bite out of my bank account just for associating with these people. It's like being financially punished for having friends. Same people want to go out to eat or get absolutely fucking shitfaced 7 days a week. They want to do all these elaborate vacations. Rent out limos for bar crawls and shit. It's fucking retarded considering these people can barely afford to make rent. Someone finds out you got a $20,000 boost in your income, they want to find a way to get you to spend $40,000 to celebrate. Culturally, the country is fucking awful.

>>20095617
>wow he doesn't have data from before 12 years ago haw haw
wow dude this chart would have looked way different had the start date been in the 00's, 90's, 80's, or 70's right?

>>20093853
The Rothschilds family own $500 trillion, but world wealth doesn’t exceed $300 trillion so that means they own loads of land that isn’t counted or they’re big in derivatives.

>>20094528
The Rothschild are keen on not showing their wealth. The family was said to own $500 trillion.

everything is booming
E V E R Y T H I N G

>>20102189
>>20102201
Haven't seen any evidence of that. If you can't find 500t of assets you can't claim it just magically exists. Ultimately almost every figure is estimated by various means anyway so we'll never know the true figure, but pretending they own more shit than exists in the world while magically being able to hide 99.9999999999% of it so they don't even make it in the list of billionaires is a wide stretch. Even wider when you consider one of them - benjamin - isn't hiding, yet only registers at $2b.

>>20093625
>by taking a typical jewish profession like banker or doctor
In other words, professions that are geared towards academics, where a few extra bonus points of IQ, especially magnified at the far end of the distribution, go a long way.

One of the worst things about doctors in the US is they're essentially among the best students who have a significant drive for money and prestige. If they were interested in medicine, it's highly likely they'd choose to go into the un-sexy world of Medical Research.

You wind up with a lot of arrogant, highly organized test-taking experts. They don't have any interest in their patients, they just want to be admired and receive the highest of society's honors: Big Bucks.

This isn't true of all doctors, of course. But it's a disproportionately high amount compared to other professions.

I suspect this has a lot to do with why doctors usually have the highest suicide rate among all professions.

>>20102286
This contradicts my preconceived notions, and flies in the face of a collage of newspaper clippings I found on the internet, and take for granted are real and true.

Therefore you are wrong and some sort of paid agent of misinformation.