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I can't stand the soulless self-deluded drones in my class anymore. I'm 1 year in. Even 1 year with these people has made me hate the "med" type more than any other breed on earth. I've met maybe 3 chill people that actually seem like decent people. They're all so stuck up and think they're the smartest people on earth, and they act like they're competing for their life in the academic Olympics even though the classes are literally all pass/fail and not even curved. They study 24/7 and it's actually kinda hilarious how pathetic these people are.

It's not even that hard to get into med school, it just takes a ton of time because scores and grades are worth so little compared to showing how much you love the disadvantaged through countless volunteer hours, and that you bring a diverse perspective as being "underrepresented in medicine".

I had to apply twice to get in even with a 4.0 GPA and 98th percentile MCAT score, didn't even get an interview the first time because I am "overrepresented in medicine" and didn't show a "commitment to serving others" through my volunteering and everything. 60th percentile scores with more volunteering or being "underrepresented in medicine" now get accepted over 95th percentile scores.

I could go on for hours about how screwed up so much stuff is with the whole system but the last post I tried submitting was too long and I lost it all.

Either way, I want something that actually makes use of my 143 IQ which is why I chose medicine (even though it's basically just rote memorization and little critical thinking is even needed to meet the cut, so even medicine feels like a waste) and I love to work very hard and grind at my craft, but I don't know what the hell else there is to do with my life.

Please help frens. And my BSc in Biochemistry is literally useless on its own, obviously.

>> No.20019036

>>20018975
I ended up graduating FSU with a 2.3 GPA and no extracurricular's and am now a business analyst for a fortune 200 company, and the largest energy compangy in the US. In the end my grades never mattered, it was just luck that got me where I am today. If thats not inspiring, then fuck, I dont know what to tell you.

>> No.20019044

Pussy

>> No.20019050

>>20018975
Why are you complaining on biz about being in med? Congratulations, you'll have a life better than 99% of the people on this board.

>> No.20019080

>>20018975
Medicine is for URMs and asians that memorize shit. Smart people don't go into medicine anymore, they get 200k+ packages at tech or finance firms after their bachelor's.

But honestly if you only have 3 years to go you might as well ride it out.

>> No.20019082

>>20019050
LOL. No. He's a first year whiney baby. He's never going to practice medicine. If he can't take the first year, he's never making it further in. The schools make it as brutal as possible, to scare away the manbabies like him.

>> No.20019097

>>20018975
first year med students don't know shit
t. first year resident who doesn't know shit

>> No.20019113

>>20018975
I get the feeling you might be lying.

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>>20019082
>LOL. No. He's a first year whiney baby. He's never going to practice medicine. If he can't take the first year, he's never making it further in. The schools make it as brutal as possible, to scare away the manbabies like him.

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>>20018975

If you hate memorizing things and prefer critical thinking then you should do Electrical Engineering, like a concerning amount of people on /biz/

>> No.20019147

Give it another year and then decide.

>> No.20019183

>>20018975
Is there any reason you have to interact with other students?
Try to find 2-3 guys who are okay if you really need to socialise and stay fucking away from the others.
I'm studying economics at a decent Uni and I literally try to stay alone as much as possible. I have a few close friends I know for years and a great gf, there is literally no reason for me to interact with the faggots in Uni.

>> No.20019190

>>20019082

Lol I had no problem passing all my classes first year in med school. Wasn't even much worse than the semester in undergrad I had my hardest classes + studied for the MCAT while also playing a sport.

It just seems like a shitty path for me, I hate being around sick people and also hate most of my classmates. I mostly just chose it because of salary and I didn't know what else to do.

But I'll just stick it out I guess

>> No.20019204

>>20018975
I worked in dentistry for a couple years and considering how pretentious teeth docs are, I can only imagine how bad it is for real docs.

I think it's kinda like being an actor or athlete. Because you have a talent most people don' t that is currently valued in society, you start to think that makes you better than others.

>> No.20019215

>>20019183
True enough, all my friends are already outside med anyways except for one guy.

>> No.20019216

>>20018975
>And my BSc in Biochemistry is literally useless on its own, obviously.
Nah - be happy with a lower paying job, work at a huge brewery and just do some science.
>>20019144
do fucking not do this
t. electrical engineer w/ 4 years experience

>> No.20019248

>>20019080

Yeah I basically agree with everything you said. I messed up. But at this point in, may as well stick it out. There's some specialties I think wouldn't be too bad. I just hate how full of themselves everyone is. Being a doctor isn't even that special. Lots of things are harder. If you met these people man I swear...

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>>20018975

>> No.20019259

>>20019216

What dont you like about EE? I have 5 years experience so far and have enjoyed it. Mainly working on big infrastructure

>> No.20019341

>>20019216
>mfw network engineering stemfag who knows a metric fuckton of EE stock market fags

>> No.20019382

>>20019050
Financially, yes. But that doesn't mean better life

>> No.20019408

>>20018975
>omg my iq is so high and med school is so easy and everyone is a loser for studying so hard blah blah blah
cool story bro

>> No.20019452

>>20019248
>I just hate how full of themselves everyone is. Being a doctor isn't even that special.
wife and best friend are docs so i hang around doctors a lot. you're not wrong but you'll find a couple people eventually. Financially you're probably committed already so just pick the shortest residency specialty you can and start stacking cash. Upcoming economic depression will wipe alot of cushy white collar jobs off the market as institutional capital gets tight so a guaranteed 250-500k job isn't the worst thing in the world. My buddy is EM and works 7 on 21 off and still makes 175k range, shit seems pretty cash

>> No.20019458

About to enter into my third year of law school, same dynamic. Surrounded by a bunch of academics who can barely tie their own shoes. Good high paying jobs all go to minorities. It sucks, I wanted to drop too but I'm a year away and am just riding it out at this point. In a year I'll have a JD.

Your situation is a little different though, you have 7 years including residency? If you hate it, it might be better to get out now rather than later. I keep telling myself that I can spin a law degree into a million different things, not sure if a medical degree opens as many doors.

Also have a close friend who's parents are doctors and they all but told him he could not go to med school, said it'll never be what it once was.

my 2 cents - make of it what you will. Grad school sucks man

>> No.20019520

>>20019452

Sounds good, I'll just get through, I knew I was doing this for the long term, just wish the people weren't so shitty. I swear it sucks the life out of me man, but yeah ofc they're not all so bad. Good advice

>> No.20019541

>>20019458

Thanks man. Honestly I like science and learning the stuff, it's more just the super liberal culture at least at my school, and how stuck up the people are. After it's said and done I'm sure it'll be worth it, the people calling me a bitch are probably right. Nice to see someone who sorta knows what I'm going through though. Good luck to you

>> No.20019574

The people will mellow out as you go along. Some will fail or drop out others will burn out. Year 1 is literally the most annoying. Newb engineers are the same. Just dumb ass kids.

>> No.20019615

>>20018975
I say finish. Imagine how you could flex on people by saying “yeah I finished med school with flying colors and then decided to say fuck it and go be X instead.”
Wall Street hires smart people in any industry because they can be taught anything. Or you could do God’s work and go into upper level physics if you put in the time.

>> No.20019642

>>20019615
Honestly bro I've thought of that. I've even thought taking a shot in politics with a med degree, Ben Carson style. I'll finish my MD at this point. But I may look for work elsewhere, rather than residency, 3 years from now. You're right, would be pretty dope

>> No.20019795

>>20019190
>It just seems like a shitty path for me, I hate being around sick people
why even go into medicine then? go into finance/software dev and then at least you can hate your job in peace without putting peoples lives at risk

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>>20019259
powerplants & transmission lines?
I'm sure that's cool. I'm in CONSOOMER products and it's a passionless political hellhole.

Trying to either make lateral moves or jumping ship for software

>>20019341
yeah they always seem to be about stonks. Meanwhile I shill crypto but the only one who I can talk to about it is a Chinese pal of mine, a college classmate.

>> No.20019890

>>20019082
Putting symptoms into WebMD for the low low price of six figure debt and a shitty coat? Worth it.

>> No.20019958

>>20018975
Stick with medicine and make sure you match with a good specialty residency. Don't be one of those cucks in IM or FP lol. But healthcare in general is recession-proof.
>t. pharmacist

>> No.20019985

>>20018975
you probably won't believe me but i dropped out of a US MD school. i hated it, i wasn't that good at it (passed first block of classes was set to fair anatomy because it was too fast paced.) i also fucking HATED 99% of my classmates for the reasons you listed, i'm not even kidding they were fucking unbearable and i was a student at a low ranking MD school.

i quit and went back to school for accounting. it's okay, i make tolerable money. if i had to do it over again i'd have gone back to for a degree in comp sci with a specialty in machine learning.

>> No.20020006

>>20018975
finish your degree and then do health consulting that revolve around interventional diets you can charge up to $800 an hour just doing zoom calls

>> No.20020017

Just graduated med school and am starting residency now. I matched into dermatology. It's too soon for me to say, but I think it will be worth it once I am working 40 hours per week and taking home $400K/year. Just stay in your lane and stop seething at your classmates. Be the bigger man.

>> No.20020050

>>20019985
its like that everywhere bro just a bunch of privileged anglo and asians npc's its absolutely disgusting if you go somewhere like emory where a lot of them are trustfund kids whove never even had a summer job

>> No.20020095

>>20020050
i went to a school that was all about serving local community and matriculating students from lower tier schools. i still remember how 90% of my classmates had a parent who was a physician, professor, lawyer, dentist, etc. i think our class was like 80 students and maybe 3 others had parents with blue collar jobs.

>> No.20020121

>>20018975
This is larp. No one who is medical school larps about IQ when its a meaningless score.

Source: PhD and MD

>> No.20020127

if you want to truly utilize your talents, then you really need to open your own business, or invent something

>> No.20020160

>>20018975
you can also charge $1200 sessions for vaccine exemptions too its a growing market just try and get multiple licenses in different states

>> No.20020161

>>20019833

Yeah mostly power generation and distribution, there is something very tangible and satisfying with building something and knowing how much blood sweat and tears goes into it.

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>>20018975
Dude if you are able to score 98th percentile on the MCAT and have a 4.0 GPA please please please for the love of God use your IQ and study for the LSAT and go to law school for 3 years then into BigLaw
Here's the rundown for why Law is the most based out of top MCAT/GMAT programs
>only 3 years of school
>BigLaw starts 1st year associates at 190k
>Average BigLaw partner salary is 1.04 million
>Medschool cucks don't start making cash until 10+ years
>If after 10 years of law school and BigLaw you can say fuck it and quit with hundreds of thousands in the bank
>After 10 years of medschool you can say fuck it and quit with hundreds of thousands in debt

The opportunity cost of medschool is fucking huge. Think about this and what you could spend 10 years of time doing if you're IQ is as high as you say it is

>> No.20020185

>>20018975
I've been selling medical devices for 10+ years. Just do that. If you find good device and aren't retarded, the money is comparable to what a lot of physicians make, without all the bug brain memorization and time in a hospital. My first boss told me to alway remember that MD stands for minor deity. I love watching the new ones wlatz around

>> No.20020189

>>20019113
he 100% is. I went through medical school recent in the MD/PhD program and this is LARP.

>> No.20020207

>>20018975
I have a fucking 2.47 GPA in Philosophy at UCLA because I was extremely depressed and allowed myself to get an F. Now I'm trying to get into med school and studying for MCAT because my father is a doctor. If you got rejected and had a 4.0 GPA and a 98th percentile score on the MCAT. I'm fucked.

I fucked up my life so bad and I don't even realize it. 27 year old fuck up...

>> No.20020240

Why not go to a med school in the Caribbean? Comfy island vibes mon.

>> No.20020254

>>20020006
Holy predatory lmfao

>> No.20020255

>>20020240
because no one will trust you
thats like saying go to howard university

>> No.20020257

>>20020207
Me too, see
>>20019036
You had a better GPA than me but I wasn't even depressed, just smoked too much weed and never attended a single class. But I just kept applying to jobs and next thing I knew I was working at a fortune 200. I'm telling you, never give up, I didnt, and besides, after your first job, your next employer won't give a shit what school you went to and what GPA you had. Work experience will be the only thing that matters.

>> No.20020279

>>20019642
Power to you brother. If it’s pass/fail and the pass threshold isn’t too bad, allocate some time to self studying a subject relevant to the job you want after med school. I’d start deep diving into some East Asian politics — it’ll definitely be in-demand for future politicians.

>> No.20020315

>>20018975

I finished residency last year (US grad, I have to say that cause there are poojeet IMGs on this board).

I wished every day of residency that I did not go to medical school. I still wish I did not go to medical school. Get out while you can.

My job is fine now and so is the money but it was NOT worth a decade of my life. What a fucking ripoff.

>> No.20020366

>>20020254
the opposite
getting people on healthy diets, off statins and exempt from coming mandatory vaccinations is the best 1200 dollars they could ever spend

>> No.20020380

>>20018975
This is (soon to be me). I have similar scores, but higher MCAT. I really enjoy medicine the subject, but despise the people in it except for the based old white doctors. Can’t stand the “medical” type and avoided them my entire time at my Ivy undergrad. Still on the fence for applying. Currently being a NEET and am unsure what’s the next step to take in life. Got my degree in math. Is med school still worth it in 2020 anons?

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>>20018975
Intelligent people don't become doctors. It's a meme. People with 4.0 GPA's are people that are just really good at being complacent and following directions. I've known a few doctors in my time, and they are all total cucks Medicine is an art, not a science.

>> No.20020461

>>20020397
What do smart people do if they don’t want to be a code cuck, but want interesting and exciting work?

>> No.20020478

>>20020380

What'd you get on your MCAT if you don't mind me asking? I got 523-5 on all the practice tests so I was a little cheesed with my 518 but if you haven't even applied yet maybe consider law like someone above mentioned. If you're not fully into it, save yourself the pain man

>> No.20020491

>>20018975
Just finish school dipshit; i used my med school loans during ms3 to buy 30k ChainLink instead of studying for my OBGYN shelf; almost failed the shelf cuz of that but now im comfy af in anesthesiology residency knowing Ive got that stack there

>> No.20020509

>>20020207
>had a 2.47 GPA in philosophy at UCLA because I was depressed
>trying to go to medschool because my dad is a doctor
God you're such a privileged faggot
My gf and I both have divorced parents and went to a public meme tier state school. Her dad died during her undergrad from years of drug and alcohol abuse and he wasn't even 50 yet. Despite this, my girlfriend still graduated with over a 3.8+ GPA after 2 years of engineering before switching to business. She also managed to study for her LSAT and score in the top 96th percentile on her LSAT AND get a 50% tuition scholarship to a top 20 law school. And she was actually depressed with a legit reason. Worst part was her dad was just starting to really sober up and got an honest job before he passed away suddenly in his house. My gf found him dead 36 hours later in his kitchen when he didn't show up for their Saturday plans

If you're dad is a doctor and you went to UCLA you're definitely a rich fucker and honestly deserve to fail for being such a massive faggot that won't take responsibility for not applying yourself towards a philosophy degree that your parents were most likely bankrolling for you. My gf and I went to a meme tier state school on full academic scholarship and didn't have the option for our parents to bank roll us through a school as expensive as UCLA

>> No.20020535

>>20019036
How did you get that job?


t. Business degree and all my jobs have paid poorly sace 1 but didnt really require a degree

>> No.20020553

>>20020509
you sound like a faggot too

>> No.20020555

>>20020207
Hes larping you fuck. Its complete lie.

If you believe this, then you don't deserve to be in med school

>> No.20020574

>>20020478
526. I have someone who I tutor whose father I tutor wants me to go into Law, he’s a partner at a big law firm. I hate lawyers though.

I just want to be in a profession with a bunch of based white dudes. Medicine is so effeminate nowadays.

>> No.20020588

>>20020555
True, it’s impossible this dude never got any interviews the first round with those scores.

>>20020207
Are you going for an MD or DO?

>> No.20020589

>>20018975
Yes. Stop wasting your money if you aren't 100 percent sure. You can always go back to complete your degree

>> No.20020604

>>20020509
Your the dude who makes pornos with his GF. Please stfu.

>> No.20020615

>>20020555
if you really want it, you'll have to go overseas -unless you have an in with someone on the board

>> No.20020622

>>20020491
I've got some linkies myself, though sadly my stack is 2.5% your size, all I could afford.

Anesthesiology is one of my top choices right now, just don't get hooked on opioids, linkmarine

>> No.20020631

>>20020207
meant to tag you

>> No.20020644

>>20020574

Same here dude, you and I would get along well.

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>>20020509
You're such a little bitch, all you do is gloat about your girlfriend's achievements but I don't hear anything you've done. Probably because you sucked ass in school and ride on the accomplishments of your significant other. You probably dragged her down and kept her from the 3.8, but you begged for her to stay with you, even if you were coasting by on a 2.0 GPA. Fucking pathetic loser

>> No.20020677

Get into bioinformatics and try to join a health-related startup. Write kode that analyzes data and problems in the healthcare space and sell it to brainlet doktors who are basically mechanics to your data-based superior statistical methods.

>> No.20020680

>>20020207
No no no you are seeing this all wrong. If you can come up with some heart tugging hardship you had to overcome, admissions fucking love stories like yours. Just leave out the fact that your dad is a doctor and pretend to be passionate about it.

They salivate at a 27 year old low gpa overcoming adversity mature student against the odds kind of story.

>> No.20020682

>>20020604
You're just another privileged ivy league douche bag
I know you're a faggot and not in with the secret handshake boys because if you were you'd be on wall street and not shit posting on chan complaining about how you just want based white people while chosing to go into med school which is pajeet city in year 2020

>> No.20020694

>>20018975
YES, ABSOLUTELY YES. I finished. It's hell and I hate everything about it now.

I took HUGE loans and went all in LINK and ARPA. I'm almost as wealthy as I'd be 5 years later.

Stop.

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>You're just another privileged ivy league douche bag
I know you're a faggot and not in with the secret handshake boys because if you were you'd be on wall street and not shit posting on chan complaining about how you just want based white people while chosing to go into med school which is pajeet city in year 2020

>> No.20020702

>>20020509

This guy again lmao we get it your GF did well in school

>> No.20020705

>>20020677
You are onto something. I did some bioinformatic research in my undergrad, some low level stuff on the side. Pretty boring but that could be a pretty sick and fun job if it was cool stuff.

>> No.20020707

>>20020662
Awww come on...

>> No.20020725

>>20020694
Did you legitimately take loans for link? I can't tell if you're larping. Also what residency?

>> No.20020741

>>20020662
Lol faggot why would I 2x the length of my post to talk about my accomplishments? I've never had nor claimed to have depression so my experiences weren't relevant to the conversation, I was just responding to this philosophy dipshit whining about muh depression and using my gfs experience as an example
I graduated with an EE & business degree and scored top 99th percentile on my ACT in highschool. If I wanted to I know I could easily place top 90th percentile on the MCAT/LSAT/GMAT because of my raw IQ. I'm a good looking guy on top of this and have dated my highschool sweet heart and BTFO roasties because I hate whores. And now we are both on track to make 300k+ by age 25 with no debt due to the life insurance pay out from her father's death, law school scholarship, and my salary. You fags can all get the rope I'll be be busy starting my family and making bank

>> No.20020756

>>20020682
Seethe harder sex slave. I could walk on to any Wall Street firm i want. I don’t because Mr. Goldberg at Goldman Sachs is not based and I don’t see the point of running my body into the ground for 80 hours. There’s a lot more to life than scheming for some shekels you poor fag.

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>>20020741
>my raw IQ

>> No.20020765

>>20020705
yeah using R and beadreader all day is so interesting enjoy being at the poverty line lmfao

>> No.20020774

>>20020702
Good to see you are still seething about me

>> No.20020782

>>20020741
ACT is SAT for retards, everyone knows this.

>90th percentile
So you’re retarded. 90th percentile is shit, especially when the majority of the restarts are non-white males. Lmao imagine a bunch of subhumans beating you on a multiple choice exam.

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>>20020741

>Yes I'm very successful thats why I spend my time telling everybody on /biz/ how great I am

Loving Every Laugh

>> No.20020797

>>20020782
majority of the test takers*

>> No.20020800

The best place for capable people is ironically places where there are the least of them. I fell for the same trap as you. The thing is it attracts the most cancerous types of spoiled children who think they are God's gift to the Earth and everyone else is stupid.
I dropped physics grad school to get a second bachelor's in civil engineering. Now I work as a design consultant for construction companies and government entities. The amount of intelligent and competent people per civil engineering degree is staggeringly low because it's not a sexy degree and doesn't have the highest starting salaries. And these government entities/construction contractors are staggeringly incompetent, so any relatively intelligent person can build a reputation very fast, which is what you leverage to make more money.
I'm constantly having to think to do my job, because nobody else is. These are multi-million dollar projects, where my firm takes about 10% of the total cost as a fee and I see about half of that (this is with about 5 years industry experience). Once I have enough capital to start my own firm or do freelance stuff I'll effectively be earning twice as much minus overhead.

>> No.20020811

>>20019574
This

Life is good eventually. I hated med school and wanted to drop out first year in it as well.

T. Psychiatrist

>> No.20020822

>>20020788
You visit here often enough to remember my post from that one time months ago
I can't imagine spending that much time on shit board. I'm just shit posting because my GF is out of state until law school starts
You're shit posting bc this is your life

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>>20020741
>LEL why would I 2x the length of my post to talk about my accomplishments
>does just that
I could see why you have to prove yourself, not even random people on the internet believe that bullshit story, nor does anyone give a fuck. You could tell 99 people, and 100 wouldn't care

>> No.20020827

>>20020121
>IQ meaningless

you must be the diversity hire

>> No.20020828

I always wonder what happens to those people who go into med for the money. You couldn't pay me 500k/yr to stick my hand in roast flaps all day, no way, no chance. I wonder how specializations get selected where they go in thinking they will do neurosurgery and end up doing some horid shit like watching old people shit into cups. it's probably even worse for lawyers who think they will be Mike Ross and get some office space suicidal shit.

>> No.20020834

>>20020800
>The best place for capable people is ironically places where there are the least of them. I fell for the same trap as you.
Peter Thiel says the same. Competition is cringe and hurtful past a certain stage.

Can we get a list together of interesting fields in desperate need for high IQ people?

>> No.20020855

>>20020822
Cope harder, my superior memory BTFOs brain lets like you every day. You stupid p*rn star.

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>>20020822
when your girl leaves you for some man dick, you are prob going to kys

>> No.20020896

>>20020782
I scored 99th percentile on my ACT with zero tutoring, studying, or prep material. I don't want to pull out a number out of my ass higher than 90 because what's the point but I'm sure if I actually studied for the MCAT/LSAT/GMAT I'd score competitively. Granted, with the ACT every retard takes that shit vs w MCAT/LSAT/GMAT you're only competing vs only kids that take that so the average IQ for each test taker is probably a lot higher so I'm sure I wouldn't be able to score 99th percentile without some serious effort bc that's what I would be competing against

>> No.20020899

>>20020884
This. She’ll be doing fuck a fan videos and leave your pathetic ass once she realizes she can make more money in 5 videos than you’ll make in the next decade.

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>>20020822
Just hit me up when your pornstar comes back from school, I'll fly her out and face fuck her, free of charge

>> No.20020906

>>20018975

I'd say this homosexual country doesn't deserve someone like you and you should find out what you really want, but also something to be financially free. Tough nut to crack.

>> No.20020910

>>20020855
>brain lets

>> No.20020934

Ok so premed with cs major it is

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>>20020884
post genetics faggot
>tfw unironically 6'2" blonde hair blue eyes

>> No.20020950

>>20020910
>>20020896
Your posts reek of midwittery. If you and your GF were actually smart, you could’ve easily gone to an Ivy for basically for free given how generous financial aid.

Anyways, T20 is shit for Law. Also, pretty sure both of you are spics too. So GTFO you mayo-resenting shitskin.

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>>20020822

I spend all day on /biz/ working from home and make 6 figs, so yes I remember your cringe ass posts.

>> No.20020962

>>20020942
>he sold his DNA to 23andme
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

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>>20020942
Someone needs to archive this thread, the absolute state of this guy is pure gold

>> No.20020981

Idk bro, a lot of people pushed me to go to med school. I studied Chemistry and had top grades without much effort, but being a doctor seems absolutely miserable to me if you don't have a passion for it.

I was gonna do my PhD, I got offered a really large amount of funding but decided I didn't want to join the academia rat race competing with 100 foreigners for 1 job after 10 years of school plus post docs. I think working as a professor would be my dream job but the grind and gamble doesn't seem worth it. Maybe that is faggot talk idk.

I graduated and like you say, found my Chemistry BS to be pretty useless so I just became a software developer. Dont really have much advice other than that is an easy option. Desu idk if I made the right choice not doing my PhD, but it was insanely easy to get the job I have now, with pretty good pay, fully remote, good benefits, decent work, etc. It's not the most fulfilling but maybe that's a case of the grass is always greener, and I know I'd still be grinding as a scientist likely forever unless I managed tenure somehow, especially here in Canada

>> No.20020994

>>20020942
>>20020950
Guess again

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>>20020834
>>20020800

Construction is an industry that has a rep of being "dumb" but has a lot of complex problems that a smart person can really thrive from working on. If you are smart and reliable you will absolutely crush it. The best part is all the uppity nerds from college turn their nose up at it so you dont have to compete with them and can make bank.

>> No.20021019

>>20020994
Whatever you’re got roots in Southern California, might as well be an honorary spic

>> No.20021030

>>20021016
Redpill me on getting into construction. What are the biggest problems it faces today? Any good books you recommend on the topic?

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>>20020942
you just admitted your dick is on average 5.5" on its best day. your girl is definitely out of town getting dicked down right now.

>> No.20021066

>>20020934
if youre white or asian dont even bother
in 2014 it was basically already an unspoken rule that you had to do an honors degree to be seriously considered

>> No.20021078

>>20021019
4th generation American I'm unironically related to cowboy legend doc holliday
My grandpa's dad was orphaned at age 7 because his dad was caught fucking some other dudes wife and back then if you caught someone fucking your wife you could legally kill them
He grew up poor af in Texas but then got his way into oil and gas on the engineering side before starting his own business and going from no shoes until the 8th grade to retiring at age 44
I'm American as fuck and probably had my ancestral roots in this country a lot longer than you.

>> No.20021103

>>20020811
Good to hear anon, good to hear.

>> No.20021167

>>20021030
I just started working for an engineering consulting firm and their net profit after taxes and 401(k) profit has quadrupled since Trump got elected. Construction was/is booming and only slowed bc of corona chan. At the start of Trump election construction firms could not find contractors because there wasnt enough supply to meet the demand

>> No.20021170

>>20020461
startup

>> No.20021171

>>20018975
Start a fucking business with your high IQ. Best decision you can make.

>> No.20021223

>>20021171
That's honestly my dream. Down inside I've always felt I should do this. I've had some decent ideas, I think about it all the time. I just never felt like I had "the one" you know?

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>>20021030

It depends wildly by sector and location but for me (Big Infrastructure - Government/Heavy Industry in Aus) a big problem is cashed up foreign or out of industry contractors trying to move into markets they dont have experience in, undercutting at a loss and then imploding and fucking up the market. Goverment procurement practices are largely responsible for this, going for the cheapest price and offloading as much risk to the contractor as possible. It is getting better.

In residential (stay the fuck away from that) it is largely cutting corners and horrible safety/quality records, stay away, not much engineering going on there. Commercial is okay depending on company.

If you want to make bank, start at a big company on large jobs - eventually specialise in some skill and then join a smaller contractor that works with the big company or similar. Tons of guys do this as they get older, very connection heavy industry. If you are reliable you will do well, I am still young but that is what I have seen.

Construction company tiers

Tier One Companies (>~250m contracts): stricter safety, reviews, paperwork, more bureaucracy, very strict quality requirements, "big company feel"

Tier Two (~25m -250m): May be a subcontractor on a Tier One project, generally more relaxed requirements but generally longer hours. Much more lax on safety and quality. Tends to pay better but will work you harder.

Tier Three: Wild West

>> No.20021249

>>20019642
Have something to switch off to. You could do something else and be a millionaire by 30, or start your life at 30 with med school.

>> No.20021273

>>20021223
Do it anyway

>> No.20021364

You've already set yourself up to make it assuming you aren't a larp. You might as well stick it out now. I had the same feeling towards the end of university too though.

>> No.20022294

>>20021226
Based, thanks anon. Where are the best spots to make connections in this industry?

>> No.20022349

>>20019082
The only valid point you raise is schools making it as difficult as possible which you got wrong. They make the admissions difficult so that only neurotics who planned for it their entire lives get it. Meanwhile if you want to go in later like 25 or 26 and didn't study the prereqs, they make it nearly impossible to get in and won't help you. You could meet 99% of the requirements, have a better GPA than everyone, yet still not get in because of stupid formalities.

>> No.20022637

>>20018975
>60th percentile scores with more volunteering or being "underrepresented in medicine" now get accepted over 95th percentile scores.
Welcome in white genocide : the clownshow

>> No.20023144

>>20020741
>bragging about ACT scores
>bragging about IQ scores
oh no no no no no no no

>> No.20023200

>>20018975
>>20019190
if youre smart and like to work hard then just find something else with good pay

>> No.20023224

consider quitting life

>> No.20023277

>>20018975
I study medicine in Italy and I searched for this board only because I wanted to make money in order to pay all the whores I want.

So far I lost 4% of my investment but maybe holding I will make some profit.

The fact is I cannot spend thousands of euros in women without a proper income.

>> No.20023391

>>20019082

Its not that hard. It is literally just consistency. Im year 4 of 5 (UK), and the obly thing you have to do is start early and be consistent. Im still fit af, have gf of 4 years, see my family, play rugby and socialise.

OP may be stuck with a few "muh whitecoat" types, but you dont have to be mates with them. Think of it as a litmus test for when you'll be dealing with asshole patients.

I know how annoying that gunner mentality is, but it dies down amongst the majority eventually.

>> No.20023475

I studied Medicine in the UK and subsequently Veterinary medicine in Ireland.

The US pays well but the work hours are shit and you will get emotionally stuck with the job and likely become a workaholic high-wage slave. That said, you have a plethora of options once you graduate and room to move around should you want to. Becoming a plastic surgeon with your own practice in on of the less known cities in vain states will net you between 1-5 mil a year.
Also I know this is larp because people with IQs that high do not go into medicine but i thought id offer some input in case any real people are reading.

>t. 132 brainlet

>> No.20023567

>>20023144
This is why its larp.

>> No.20023637

>>20018975
>didn't even get an interview the first time because I am "overrepresented in medicine"
this insane society needs to kill all the retarded gate keepers and rule makers

>> No.20023691

>>20019082
The shit an old high school friend told me of med school was basically what OP described

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>>20018975

I feel you bro
>t. year 5 eurofag
>hate the pretentious libtards and social marxists in my college
>med culture is the worst form of the rat race
>will look for the job and property in the countryside when I finish college next year
>still have to decide on the specialty, the easy ones are hard to match into and people are toxic
>the difficult ones make your life a living hell
>considering psych, family medicine, anesthesiology maybe
>secretly hoping I'll be able to retire on my link gains and quit medicine

If you want to keep in touch we can exchange disposable e-mail or something similar, would be nice to have a med fren

bizfren@tutanota.com

>> No.20024176

>>20018975
it sounds like you go to a low tier med school.