/biz/ - Business & Finance

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When are we going all in to MRO again frens?

>>19993152
i want more ASE's, lets hope 4th of july sales are pretty decent

>>19993175
cryptoids need to be quarantined

>>19993276
What again was the reason some people only stack ASE?

>>19993310
>anime girl, no stack
hi CIA how's it going today?

30 minutes until prices update

>>19993334
>CIA
heh, i-i dont know what you mean at all. Thats crazy talk. I'm just a regular anon, j-just like you.
c'mon frend, show me your stacks again.

>>19993321
for years and years people have been collecting ASE's. its my understanding, world wide they're the silver coin with the most demand.
and if you've ever seen the boomer meme, its pretty accurate boomers will literally just keep buying ASE's
so its more about just knowing you can walk into any coin shop with a tube of ASEs and walk out with a decent stack of cash

but if you got a good relationship with your LCS and they say they'll buy generics from you when spot is ridiculous then go for it...

>>19993353
i'm loving the tubes of gold. when did all the crypto whales decide to start posting there stacks?

>>19993467
Okay I see your point, however when the price of a 1oz Maple Leaf is 1USD lower per coin that will hurt your yield over time. (currently on apmex)
I live in Europe, here the Maple Leaf is the nr. 1 due to low premium, very closely followed by the Wiener Philharmoniker.

>>19993575
they're fleeing the crypto cancer boards like rats leave a drowning boat

>>19993152
I used to have a bunch of those little coins but I swapped them out for some 1oz philharmonics. Much easier to keep track off and they have a better resell value.

>>19993603
really leafs? i wonder if it has to do with tariffs. i know canada gets cheap booze from france, i wonder if the reverse is also true can canada send stuff to france without tariffs.

>>19993635
but you havent switched Vrenelis for 1oz Phili did you? Vreneli everywhere on the world has a higher premium than any modern 1oz bullion

>>19993705
check this image

>>19993760
roo's are the cheapest. man i'm jelly i need another 15, 2020 kangaroo's and a perth mint tube, i impulsed bought 10 when they were on sale...

>>19993760
Not sure about "the world" but here in the US local dealers and online places like APMEX pay absolute shit on Swiss/French francs (about 10% below spot). But for modern 1oz govt issued gold coins they pay a lot better (basically spot). Also, the fact that it's a random AGW of .1867 makes it really hard to keep track of, and I had like 50 at one point. It's much easier to just say XXoz x spot to see what my stack value is.

>>19993760
>>19993835
i would like input on this as well, in the US anything without english just doesn't have the same value.
but i would assume they hold up much better in europe?

>>19993353
>>19993374
I'm assuming those are Swiss coins? Are the wooden tubes custom tubes or does the minter (Swiss Mint?) use wooden tubes as a standard? The wooden tubes look really nice.

>>19993865
I havent seen Vreneli under 5% premium for the last five years, very often they are 7-9% I bought mine from private for spot price but I had to buy a tube at once.
French 20 francs are cheap often to be found under 2%. The cheapest coins in Europe are the 20 Kronen and 100 Kronen Austria, followed by Sovereign / 2 Rand and 50 Pesos Centenario (37.5g)
Standard 1oz bullion coins the Krugerrand and the Maple are relatively cheap at 3-5%, American Eagle and Buffalo are priced higher.

>>19993865
I mainly stack 1oz Krugs, Pandas, and Phils, and they seem to hold value really well here in the US. I think Eagles and Maples are the most popular, but those three are usually right behind them in the APMEX popular gold. The old Swiss/French francs do seem popular in the US as well, the problem is the resell value was much lower for some reason, which I assume was due to the fact they aren't modern bullion with a standard size (ie 1/4, 1/2, 1oz).

>>19993418
> gold up 0.4%
> silver down 0.4%

>>19993941
They are custom made by some dude in switzerland, the swiss mint sadly is not interested in Vrenelis, they do soulless commemorative coins that will all end in the smelter one day

What are the best sites for 4th of july deals?
Will I actually have to wait for the 4th? I feel the price of silver is gonna keep rising negating the sale but more=better anyways

>>19994031
Thanks. LOL. That coin looks terrible. From my tiny screen, the person (?) looks like ET.

>>19994038

They are all going to have them. Apmex. SD, JM, Provident.

>>19993353
Is that your gold anon?

>>19994184
don't forget MonumentMetals they have good stuff too. my last order from them only took 6 days to arrive

>>19994239
no, thats my gold

>>19994343
8oz?

Options expiry today, a lot of people will be out of the money if silver closes above 18 so expect it to get smashed if it goes near 18 again.

>>19994458
can you elaborate on this, for us slow kids?

>>19993276
Do sites usually do 4th of July sales?

>>19993957
looked up vrenelis yesterday and they had a premium of 4%, also german seller, not that its any better, kronen definitely are cheaper

>>19993321
Misplaced patriautism.

>>19994552
why wouldnt they?
they do weekly 4hr flash sales and Friday sales all the time.
i expect most will make a sales event out of the 4th July holiday

>>19994599
thats not an accurate statement

>>19994004
Why lie, anon?

>>19994629

it was accurate when it was posted 40 minutes ago, schlomo

>>19994458
uhm yeah can you please explain this i'm not big on finance either

>>19994664
>>19994508
Arcadia economics just did a good video on it but basically there are a shit load of call options above 18 dollars with an expiry date of the end of June. If silver finishes below 18 the banks will get to keep all the premiums from all the call options and the people who bought the calls will be out of the money. Banks will lose money bigly if silver finishes the month above 18 basically.

>>19993467
i just recieved my first ever pm.
its a canadian fucking leaf .9999
1oz

>>19994768

pic?

>>19994758
these jewish tricks should be illegal

>>19994768
congrats anon.
can post pics?

>>19994758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA0lopwOgCY
this wouldn't be it would it, i'll have to watch it tonight.
>>19994768
indeed congrats anon, sounds like you did pretty decent for your first purchase

>>19994819
That's the one, the way they talk makes it absolutely clear the SLV price is still completely under control of the big banks, I thought they were losing control after premiums jumped but might be a few years yet.

>>19994768
Very nice! I am just starting out myself trying to figure out what to get, from where, and worried about shipping.

>>19993467
Trade up one of those tubes on armslist for something better than Taurus anon kek

>>19994908
JM bullion. Maybe just do generics for your first purchase since you can get it closest to spot

>>19994908
online they offer better prices in bulk, so i would say don't worry to much about shipping just buy enough its free lol

>>19994900
my perception is they dont have any control over premiums on physical PMs.
they control paper spot price, for some desired effect.
other effects are residual.
thats my un educated perception of it

>>19994923
i get so much hate for that taurus, i think i need to make a collection of the queens coins with some dirt cheap fucking guns just to trigger you guys

>>19994947
Oh I meant scared of shipping something that expensive. I guess it should be insured?

>>19994963
please dont do that. we're too easily triggered around here. i cant handle anymore stress right now

>>19994975
i've heard only half the big companies actually insure them, but as long as the package gets broken into before your mail carrier drops it off, you're pretty safe
>>19994996
lol

>>19994923
This. Get a Glock

>>19994900
just looked up silver price, 18.01, we dumping now?

>>19995049
>we dumping now?
look here kid, this isnt crypto. we aint "dumping" nothing

>>19995021
well once silver hits 30/oz and i quit stacking i'll upgrade my firearms collection. but no glocks. or other over priced guns like a sig or colt.
i want another hammerless snub nose S&W revolver. and i want another bushmaster xm-15(their ar variant)

>>19995049
Just matters if we finish the month above that price. But yes, always expect a dump and capitalize on them when you can.

>>19994963
Kek. I've busted your balls over it before too.

>>19995049
>dump
Do you know what general this is? We hodl for Weimar

>>19995110
That is the most boomer shit I have ever seen.

>>19995197
don't gimme no guff here son

>>19995197
don't be hating anon you'll need those boomers to buy your rocks lol

now pic related is gonna be my next toy

>>19995197
I am a boomer at heart

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>>19995103
>but no glocks. or other over priced guns like a sig or colt.
It's "over priced" because they are built to last. I've had my gen3 G19 since the year 2004 and it's never once misfired or let me down.

>>19994758
Well then I can tell you for 100% that it will not finish at that amount then.

>>19994343
Oh, neat.

>>19995276
Simplicity too and large aftermarket. Small flathead and punch, you can pretty much repair and do all your upgrades on Glock besides sights. Too easy

>>19995243
Great to carry. Not fun to shoot though.

10K stinky LINKER here.

I’ve got some Silver, and I want to get into gold but I’m not dropping 3K at a time to do it.

I saw Goldbacks posted here and they look neat but the premium looks like at least double for just standard bullion.

Where’s the cheapest place to get them? And/or are they worth it outside of novelty?

>>19995276
you know when i played army, we still had some of the colt m16's made during vietnam. i'd believe the colt will last, glocks though...

>>19995305
repairs? why on earth would you need to do repairs, oh right glock uses plastic....
but seriously anon, if you have to replace anything other then the wood stock from wear and tear, something is horribly wrong...
>>19995324
actually i could hit a piece of paper at 25 yards, with my old one, and my taurus i'm happy when i hit the paper at 10 yards lol

>>19995243
I sprung for the sig p365 a while back, just got the 12 rd mags for it so now I can shoot it properly. Gorgeous little gun though.

>>19995341
No not worth it. Just save up for quarter ounces or at least 1/10 ounces.

>>19995341
hey stinker welcome to the club. i hear theres a location in utah that sells them at fact value. but who wants to go to utah...

>>19995354
>repairs? why on earth would you need to do repairs, oh right glock uses plastic....
>but seriously anon, if you have to replace anything other then the wood stock from wear and tear, something is horribly wrong...
almost 20 years man, never had to repair anything.

>>19995354
I meant not fun to shoot because of the snappy recoil.
>repairs
Well...it's still a firearm with moving parts. Thins can happen and wear after awhile, especially springs,so it's nice to be able to perform self maintenance at pretty much any level on Glock. My carry Glock I keep stock, my one used for competition it was nice to enhance the trigger

>>19995243
>>19995110
postin Wheelie bois?

>>19995506
Is that a security Six? Very nice

>>19995487
oh yeah i see what your saying the 7lbs of pressure of whatever it is for the trigger.
yeah you get used to it, i learned just where you could pull the trigger 90% of the way then aim for that split second and boom. perfect shot. and if they're close enough you can't take the second to do that, then you won't need to aim lol
>>19995506
one of these days we might have to do a flash raid of /k with pics of our guns and PM's lol

>>19995525
thx anon. yep. Security Six in .357
fun gun and real soft shootin because its built like a tank i guess

>>19995579
Yah you can stage the triggers nicely on them. The Performance Center ones even more so.
>cross board posts
Some anon was doing that a month or so ago. Nu /k/ is pretty bad though desu and the threads were filled with stupid comments

>>19995579
>flash raid /k/
yeah, with a cowboy western theme, guns, gold and silver.
or a kellys heros ww2 german gold theme

Hey kids!,
How's the coin collecting going? find any good'ns?

>>19995676
dammit i just made an order a few hours ago. i forgot i was going to wait fo the July 4th weekend sale events

just tried the eraser method on this guy. chewed the fuck out of the eraser. but it looks nicer. might have to pick up those 2in by 1in erasers to clean the rest

>>19995354
>Colt
Unless the particular gun you're looking at is over 30 years old I would avoid them like the plague. They've been trading on their name for years to sell overpriced 1911s to the sort of people that hang out in gunshow parking lots because they've been banned from entering due to ND'ing. Also,
>repairs? why on earth would you need to do repairs, oh right glock uses plastic....

Stop being a dumbass fudd. He's not expecting to have to replace a polymer frame (which those M16s you played with also had...) He's pointing out that you can do a take down with a nail and a butter knife, which makes cleaning, small adjustments like feed ramp polishing, and barrel or spring replacements fairly painless. If you've honestly never had to replace something on your guns, you need to shoot more.

>>19995836
now this is /k/ posting

>>19995836
um... hello? based department

>>19995676

>>19995836
i don't even know anything abput guns but i do know based when i see it

>>19995925
based sperglord you mean
literally /k/ incarnate

>>19995087
I'm not saying that I'm selling my physical guy, but in the context of the conversation he's saying that whoever has control of the silver prices will dump so as to not end the month above 18 for those holding options at 18. I'm holding until this system collapses.>>19995139 this is for you too

>>19996023
see
>>19996054

>>19996062
oh, i guess that was over my head then

>>19996111
it's ok I forgive you, here's some of my stuff just for you, bad lighting I know

>>19996077
we're not in disagreement

>>19996155
Yes you should dump all that...to me...for spot

>>19995925

>>19996211
I got those ASEs for 22.5oz recently at my lcs, going to get some more once I have the currency for it, until then I will fantasize about what a FWTDHW will do for my snake boi

>>19996155
nice. looks copper like in that pic

>>19996325
What state do you live in?

>>19996393
unironically the silver state (Nevada), I was born to stack

>>19996362
Silver likes to pick up the color of things around it.

>>19995243
Not a great toy. It's small and easy to carry, but if you want some more kick, get a .357 over .38 due to the fact that you can fire .38 from .357 and not vice versa. Also hope that comes without a lock.

proposal to require stack posts from gold (yellow) and silver (grey) IDs

>>19996480
looks like we got a chonker in the upper right

>>19996582
our family cat is a He Chomnk

>>19996545
The lightweight .357s are alot pricier. And you can definitely get 642s and 442s without the lock

>>19996681
>>19996582
My black cat is also a confirmed Chonk. She looks like a black bear cub

>>19996480
>500 coin ASE Monster box
thread = mogged

>>19996480
Best stack I’ve seen in a while

>>19996419
So is there a shitnload of silver for sale there all the time?

>>19996480
Now open it. Gotta make sure they are real and that it's not a box of tungsten.

>>19996545
i like the .38 and that it doesn't have the penetration of those .357 also i like i can put the 4/10 shotgun shells in it, they make these bird shot rounds that work just fine in a revolver...

>>19991735
no, specific gravity tests mean you accurately test the weight of the coin/bar, as well as the volume of water it displaced(IE the volume of material in the bar)

this video explains it better then me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_2vA1qO2fA

you basically cannot fake this, you can mix other elements to get the same weight, maybe even similar dimensions, but you cannot mimic the specific gravity of an element.

>>19995506
where you get that doll from? thats cute I want one but maybe a diff character

>>19996832
what kind of container do i need to accurately measure displacement though?
I mean, assuming I'm mildly retarded i need something that easy and simple to operate

Is this painful to look at?

>>19996871
watch the video anon, all you need is an accurate scale and a glass of water

>>19996888
Nah, itself your money to waste no one gives a shit.

>>19996703
What would you do if I held your cat for ransom?

>>19996916
well anon 4chan can find a mcdonalds worker who took a photo stepping on lettuce, this is also the same group who multiple times hunted down a flag just to prove they could... and you think its a good idea to fuck with our cat?
NGMI

>>19996854
heh, got her off of Amazon. they're available other places like ebay and such. but Amazon seemed to have the widest selection of different characters available

>>19996480
Are those monster boxes packaged in a larger, more discrete cardboard box when they get shipped?

>>19996976
>well anon 4chan can find a mcdonalds worker who took a photo stepping on lettuce
Is it weird that one of the things I am most proud of is that I posted in that original thread?

>>19997001
I'm sure they are but I picked mine up from a local dealer.

>>19997016
oh fuck we're old....

>>19993321
no sales tax in lots of places and you recover some of the premium even when selling to dealers. Also if you're selling a large quantity to a dealer they don't have to send a 1099 to the feds

>>19993260
How many fit in a tube? I autistically desire an entire tube of a gold coin. Any gold coin.

>>19996813
You're thinking of a judge that takes .410 shotshell and that is .45 LC not .38

>>19996976
Dont forget coordinating airstrikes against ISIS

>>19996888
Why would it be?

>tfw started casually talking some /pmg/ stuff with my best fren a few months
>tfw hes now officially deeper into PMs than i am

>>19997408
queens prob.
but who cares anymore desu. nice old coins and good silver

>>19997347
yeah but we had to call in russia to help...
>>19997317
pic related

>>19997440
What's wrong with queens?

>>19997317
i actually can't find the exact round i had before, isn't there a small shotgun shell thats close to the .38 width?

>>19997524
Royalty, usurpers of power and will of individuals, self proclaimed as "god-ordained" to rule over every thing, sins of the past, etc.,
yeah, somewhat intolerable

>>19997524
>What's wrong with royalty?
they are kept around to fool us into thinking that we know our feudal lords and that they have been neutered

>>19997408
People here hate anything with the Queen on it. Hating the modern stuff I understand, but the old stuff that wasn't minted at a profit is worth stacking, IMO.

>>19997524
people are mad the royalty gave up power, just for the people to give it to evil bankers.
you would think they would be more upset at themselves for demanding a republic when they clearly weren't capable of ruling one...

>>19997573
>>19997450
.410 shotshells are similar to .45 long colt. Taurus judge is the one you can interchange either round, I think the other is a Smith governor

Are the (((banks))) up to their old schemes as in 2008 with bespoke tranche opportunities? What does this mean for metals and when?

Can anyone here explain why all the PMs had a huge drop around march 20? What caused this? I feel like it's related to quarantines but I'm not sure. If it is related to quarantines it may happen again very soon
And obviously I'd like to be prepared for this

>>19997821
i believe it was the unexpected drop in demand due to the Wu Flu.
next time around i think it'll be dealt with better...

>>19997821
Institutional investors selling to cover losses. It happened in 2008 too. Expect a bit more when the economy collapses further.

>>19997821
It was from portfolio liquidation. And you'd be an idiot to become skittish with Gold during the next drop.
https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash/

>>19997821
If it crashes again it will sell out everywhere and physical prices probably wont go near that low, even like last time. I think the cheapest I managed to snag some for was $14.80 or something

>>19997861
I think you're right
From what I've read it may have been investors selling gold in a panic to make up for their stocks sinking?
But im not sure
If that is the case though it'll likely drop low again, if not lower, and then stabilize in about 3-5 days after.
With the way things are going in California, Florida, Texas, e.t.c I feel like this could happen within a week or two. But I don't know what lockdowns were happening where when this happened

>>19997885
Interesting article. Thanks friendo

>>19997898
i believe the US didn't start shutting everything down until april actually, so it had to be recession fears over china...

>>19997890
Gotta jump on it early then huh? Ill probably miss it then

>>19997890
>I think the cheapest I managed to snag some for was $14.80 or something
lol. when the silver spot price dumped premiums went up just as much and then some in my country. dealers got fucking cleaned out

>>19997947
When did new York start shutting down?

>>19997947
Okay March 20 new York started shutting down. The drop was a day or 2 before though so people must have known it was gonna happen
California and new York are similar in that they're both huge economic power houses in America, so If California looks like it's gonna have a huge shutdown, I believe PMs will drop

>>19997972
according to this site, mar 22bd for newyork
https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/lockdown-day-1

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/28/chesapeake-energy-a-pioneer-in-the-us-shale-revolution-files-for-bankruptcy-protection.html

Fugg :DDDDDD
Here we go guys
Hope you got your stacks and your food cuz shit slides downhill F A S T

>>19997996
i wouldn't look at cali, they're being starved of h1-b visas right now. maybe newyork would be better?

>>19998013
>shit slides downhill F A S T

>>19994343
Based Austrian stacker.

>>19997751
This guy gets it

>>19998034
>shhhhh, can you hear that?
>that's the sound of panic in the air, doc. when the proles wake up on tuesday morning to realize that nothing is worth anything anymore and the time to stack was last week, what do you think is going to happen to the prices, doc? what happens to the dollar?

>>19998013
>McClendon was ultimately ousted from the company in 2013, and in 2016 was indicted on federal charges of conspiring to rig bids for oil and natural gas leases for a new venture he had started. The following day, McClendon perished in a car crash.

sounds like the company got fucked hard, and was pulling itself out of debt when oil prices tanked...

>>19998016
Texas and Florida also likely to completely shutdown but their governors are more obstinate
Texas and Florida shutting down could also repeat the same results as last time
New York started shutting down at around 7k new infected daily
Florida currently at 10k infected daily and Texas is 6k daily
I think in about a week to 2 weeks they'll be shutting down completely.

>>19997958
They hit everything with crazy premiums. I think even generic made it around $4 premiums there a few months ago. Its come down SOME, except ASEs but nowhere near what premiums were before the crash/shortage

>>19997999
Yes but the announcement was made on the 20th I believe, hence news articles reporting it on the 20th
The announcement is what's most important to the economy

>>19998063
Yeah, but the whole oil sector is in the same boat. Not a single one of them knows how much oil is going to cost in a year, two years, three years out. Literally none of them know how much money they're going to have coming in by November. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the big ones start folding kne after another.

>>19998088
>>19998099
>>19998111
can't argue with those numbers...

>>19997821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloKT7I_hAY
Cuz that was when trump made corona "real" to americans. It had been in the news up to that point but not in a serious way, and most of what trump had said up to that point was pretty dismissive.

>>19998079
i think we got some time still. but it might just take a couple extra weeks to make it to indianapolis too though...

>>19997419

It's okay you saved him from Fed robbery. Be proud. I'm talking everyone I care about into it too.

>need to buy groceries
>want to buy more metals instead

>>19997821
Liquidity crunch. Everyone needed dollars to cover their debts or whatever else, didn't matter where it came from. Everything dropped in may. Gold honestly performed as expected, i.e. as a store of value. When people needed that value they liquidated their gold. It barely dropped too.

>>19998599
just buy the classy ramen noodles like the Styrofoam cups that cost 25 cents lol
bam now you can buy both lol

>>19998578
that was the fren image i was meaning to use

thinking about buying this bad mamma jamma, what do y'all think?

>>19998730
holy shit thats so expensive.
anon do you happen to have a boat by any chance?

>>19998768
i just like interesting collectors pieces. do you know of any pretty coins my dear sir?

>>19998730
Link? Thats a fucking A E S T H E T I C kino coin right there

>>19998823
https://thecoinshoppe.ca/product/mars-planets-gods-2020-3000-francs-3-oz-pure-silver-coin-cameroon/

>>19998878
I hate that it has the queens face on it but its still really nice damn.

https://rarekoin.com/

You might like these.

>>19998730
Buy it if you want anon, but most of its value is in its design, not the metal thats in it.

If you want to be a coin collector, fine, but don't try and convince yourself that you're stacking metal.

5 years from now thats gonna be a bitch to sell for anything over spot, but if you spent that $278 on more silver you'd be getting a lot more money back even at spot price.

>>19998730
Oh shit that looks so coo- oh wait it has the queen on it. Nty.

I think no matter what happens we wont see gold or silver "moon" until after the presidential election is complete. They'll do literally anything to maintain the illusion of normalcy and keep things stable up until that moment. No matter who wins that has to be the goal. I have no faith in trump as a leader but self preservation is a strong motivator and I'd be willing to bet their strategy is to keep the boat afloat until they have at least a shot at winning.

>>19998976
Nah, I keep telling you guys that it's going to be some shit that nobody is expecting, because that's just how the universe works.

I tried to inform anons on other /biz/ threads about buying some metals but they all laughed at me

>>19999098
its ok bud they will be left out in the cold when things keep going down hill.

>>19998909
sweet, thanks anon! just bought this guy after seeing it on that site! should be here by Friday, I'll post it here then :)

>>19999098
They could have gotten on the first carriage out of there, but they just scoffed instead. Fuck em

>>19998730
It's from Cameroon and has the Queen on it? How is that even possible? A bit of a deal breaker honestly.

BUY GOLD

>>19999869
Reroll

If youre not buying PM's right now youre doomed. Fuck crypto. Fuck the queen. Fuck jannies.

>>20000000

WHAT IS GOING ON, ARE YOU GUYS SEEING THIS SHIT?

>>19996054
As long as I'm not lumped in with nu/k/

>>19999098
Don't worry about it, most people on biz are only interested in pump and dump scams, they only believe in getting rich quick with crazy 100x multiples, they don't believe in working hard and saving over long periods of time so it's not surprising they dismiss metals.

>>20000265
Somethings going wrong with CIBC and a bunch of credit unions as well. I am starting to wonder if its an online attack. a glitch doesnt do this to multiple institutions at once.

>>20000265
All I'm seeing in your pic is a based Nigerian that knows that to do business, you just have to oppress certain elements

>>20000265
holy fuck people are saying their bank accounts are having random amounts added or deducted what the fuck is happening.

>>20000338
This is based. Fags are dumb if they keep anything more than a couple months expenses in (((financial institutions))))

>>20000338
BMO in Canada is having similar issues, I wonder if its across the whole banking sector and people havent noticed yet.

>>20000401
just got online to my local credit union(not even state wide) no signs of anything off, but have any banks sent out alerts saying not to worry its just a glitch or anything like that?

>>20000438
two of my mates who have accounts with BMO had their accounts closed than reactivated yesterday without warning, the bank apologized saying a technical error happened. No other info though and I havent seen anything in the news yet, but i expect if its serious it will pop up soon.

Also managed to get back into my claim with the real nice gold that was swampy the last few days. Got this for a 15 yard test. Still to much water to properly work though.

>>20000487
damn very nice.

>>19993353
whoa where did you get that tube from?

>>20000537
Thanks but I have no idea how i am going to actually be able to mine there. Its so fucking swampy, as soon as I start digging my holes fill with water.

>>19993446
Get out

>>20000547
like how swampy we talking? can you just dig a big hole and get a hand pump, or would you have to pump out a few acres lol

>>20000292
>oh those russians

>>20000578
Lets put it this way, I may end up sneaking a creek move into my permits. I wonder if the inspectors will notice I am moving this fucking piss trickle they call a stream. My problem is bedrocks close to surface, with another layer of impermeable clay on top, and its very flat ground too. The waters got no where to go, unless I make a new place for the water to go.

>>20000265
>>20000338
TWITTER FAGS
TELL THE NORMIES TO DO A BANK RUN
FUCK THIS SHIT
ACCCCEEEELLLLEEEEEERRRAAAATTTTEEEEE

>>20000547
I hear some dude a while back invented a device capable of moving water easily but I'm not sure if anything ever came of it, still might be worth looking into.

>>20000618
just make a temporary aqueduct, i'm sure no one would notice. i think the italians have some experience in that...lol
sorry anon, good luck dealing with the govt

Anyone else think those coins based off of John Wick are comfy as fuck?

>>20000706
>>20000721
Yea i ve built flumes before but this might require a total revamp of where the creek moves. It cant be to hard to get legal permission to do a creek move with no fish involved... or I could just do it and see if the fed bois notice. If theres a few hundred grand Au there like I think there might be, than I am sure the fine would be basically paid for.

>>20000738
In the first John Wick, isn't his trunk that he buried in concrete full of Kugerands?

>>20000766
Not sure, didn't know they had a design until the one scene where the coins were being inspected.

>>19993152
new SRS Rocco vid, talks about platinum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYoiyMCuKLs

serious question. how much longer do you think we have to stack. it seems like things are getting out of hand. is there a point in which I should just pack up my family and my silver and just get the fuck out of the metropolitan area?

>you can only stack one kind of silver and gold item
What is it?

>>20000988
How much cash is that? Turn that shit into metals fren. If you dont have separate cash on hand for things then ocnvert two of those stacks into metals

>>20000988
Wherever you plan to hide out, have a stash. Make sure it's easily divisible, too.
>>20000999
100 oz bars. Fuck the haters and the weak.

>>20001010
that's 3,000. I in general keep about 2 weeks worth of cash on hand. then have an account with a few weeks worth as well. everything else is going into metals at this point.

>>20000000
>>19999999

>>20000988
How are things getting out of hand exactly?

>>20001048
>he doesnt know

>>20001048
a group of anarchists with guns took over a 6 block area of the city I work in. I saw them marching down the street from a place I occasionally do business with. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I would have thought fox news was full of shit again.

>>20001070
shit like that really does boggle the mind. The world seems bent to head for self destruction, and were going to get to watch it happen like our grandparents never could have imagined. I never would have thought armed leftists would actually start blockading areas until I saw it near Houston BC at the Unistotin blockades. Now Seattle and other US cities? its bonkers.

>>20001070
Really? Where?

>>20000988

0-4 years, but my guess is about 18 months. that's enough time for biden to be elected, and the market to wake up to the reality of that mass money printing isn't a temporary response to a virus, it's a permanent policy to deal with social problems. national debt is 26 trillion now, will probably be 30T+ by 2021, and 35T+ by 2022. rates can never go up, a 2% yield would be crushing at that level of debt. everything is going to be monetized.

>>20000999
phillys and phillys

>>20001070
You're not talking about that chaz bullshit are you?

>>20000988

but yeah, if you're in a metropolis, pack up now. there's never been a worse time to live in a city.

>>20001169
>>20001122
Yes. I thought it was absolute nonsense when I heard it on the news, thought it was like the WTO riots or some hippie nonsense. When I saw them marching in the streets I suddenly took it a lot more serious. Most of them are stupid kids, but there were a serious group of people who were obviously instigators and possibly trained to do this.
>>20001152
4 years seems like an eternity. I just want to get my family settled somewhere else.
>>20001171
that's the plan, we are getting out of the Seattle area for good, fuck this place, it used to be amazing, but they've ruined it and now it's beyond repair.

Can the government seize our gold and silver these days? I know they can just write an executive order and the courts are all cucked but realistically how would this work? Maybe they can seize rounds and not minted coins? Idk freaks me out thinking about it

>>20000999
Ten ounce Canadian mint silver bars and American gold Eagles.

>>20001239
I dont see how they could, but if it ever happened, I would find a nice random stream and return my gold to it for safe keeping. Good luck fed bois panning for my property!

>>20001239

well, as soon as FDR took office, he ordered people to turn in their gold. what percentage was turned in, who knows. how FDR wasn't thrown in jail for that, let alone reelected multiple times after that, is a mystery to me.

but since we're no longer on a gold standard, the Fed has no reserve requirements for gold, and gold officially has nothing to do with "the money supply" i don't really see what that would accomplish. would they do it in anticipation of returning to a gold standard? if so, why not just buy the gold now? they can clearly print money and exchange it for gold, so why wait?

>>20001334
Also, right now the fed and all major banks officially consider gold to be a "barbarous relic", if they openly said they needed more their entire game would be over and the demand for gold would explode.

It will never happen and they wouldn't try to confiscate gold until it's already too late for the dollar anyhow.

>>20001334
>i don't really see what that would accomplish
The same thing that negative rates and going cashless do, especially those two combined, they destroy savings. Gold is the prototypical form of savings. Get it?

>>20001334
>how FDR wasn't thrown in jail for that, let alone reelected multiple times after that, is a mystery to me.
FDR was effectively a dictator, I wouldn't put it past the man who enacted countless unconstitutional policies to simply rig the elections, especially during a time when his party controlled nearly all state governments.

>>20001428
it is said the congress was so afraid of him they wouldn't pass term limits until he died...

>>20001205
Just your typical communist agitators. Nothing to really worry about.

>>19998730
>colored coins
>ever
Lol no
And
>mixing modern understanding of science with ancient Roman mythology
Cringe
It's also just ugly

>>20001239
I feel like people at that time viewed gold as money and thought it was an important asset to hold. In 2020? Lmao. People value their iPhones and flavor of the month fad product to buy. They dont need to confiscate something that 99% of americans dont bother owning. For russians/chinese citizens I think the threat of confiscation is very real.

>>19997138
inner tube height 58mm, Vreneli thiccness = 1,3mm

>>19997138
I want a tube of dos pesos gold coins

>>20001545
I've lived in Seattle for 30 some odd years. This is nothing like the Communist agitation we had before. I've seen a lot of shit in this country, but this is a step in a totally new direction.

>>20001564
Are they really stacking gold and silver hard? Or just gold or other metals too like platinum etc? I cant imagine even being chinese at all.

>>20001556
Don't forget the reptile on the other side.

>>20001587
You're blowing it out of proportion.

>>20001695
I thought it was bullshit until I saw it with my own eyes. wait until it's in your neighborhood.

>>20001588
They've always stacked Gold and Silver, they've done so for centuries. They buy no matter what the market's like.

>>20001545
>Nothing to really worry about

>>19999098
It's ok fren, not everyone is bound to make it anyway. At least you tried.

Is there any place that doesn’t charge sales tax for commiefornia? Apmex, JP and Monument Metals all charge sales tax now for purchases under $1500.

>>20001334
>they can clearly print money and exchange it for gold, so why wait?
Can you imagine the message it would send if the FED started buying gold? Everybody would freak out, it's like announcing in the open :
>"ok so USD is doomed and about to implode, yall better go out asap"
It also would greatly please the BRICS, who are stockpilling gold since the subprime crisis, waiting for this day to happen (rightfully so).

>>20001915
reddit pmsforsale

Just bought 25 brittanias for 510€ (~$575) with shipping fees included, did I do good?

>>20001564
>For russians/chinese citizens I think the threat of confiscation is very real.
Yeah, sure, muh ebil boogeyman. Meanwhile in the real world of cold hard facts, it only happened in western countries, namely : Italy, US, great britain and Australia. Gold confiscation is almost only a commonwealth thing.
US as of today is way more tyrannical and bolchevik than Russia, it's not even comparable.

>>20001986
Are you the same faggot that got BTFO last thread for defending China? kek

>>20001980
I can have them for 490€ here, where do you live?

>>20002002
>that got BTFO
kek, i'd say it was the total opposite actually. But your brain is only wired to suck kikes and muh patriotism, so no wonder your view is extremely biaised. Good goy.

>>20002023
So you were the same anon who got roasted kek. You can pretend otherwise but the thread is still available for anyone to go see for themselves

>>20002035
>>20002023
Quit with the nationalist shit-flinging, please. Leave that to shitter threads on /k/.

>>20002005
France, but I indicated that was with shipping fees of 20€.

>>20002035
YOU got roasted, you nigger loving faggot. Keep sucking a jewish government who's implementing NWO policies, suppressing all your rights while trying to exterminate the white race with your taxpayer money. It will surely payoff, no doubts about that.

>>20002046
Indead, nationalists are retards. Imagine being so retarded they still believe nations matter for the borderless globohomo jewish overlords.

>>20002067
Then you did really good, i suppose you got it from acheter-or-argent since it's 490+20€ of shipping, they have the best prices in yurop rn for brittanias.

>>20002122
>YOU got roasted
Literally not even that anon who took a shit on you kek. Enjoy defending China lmao

>>20001986
What gold would china have stolen from its citizens 60 years ago? Or 100? Same goes for Russia lol. China and Russia today *let* people be rich and if the gov ever comes knocking you'd better be willing to play by their rules. I cant believe you seemingly think that China and Russia are these hands off governments that just let people live their lives as they please. China beat the fuck out of their own citizens for protesting independence as the whole world watched and you think they wouldnt be willing to use buyer data for PMs to track down gold/silver they want to claim? Again, the USA doesnt need to do this shit because nobody buys PM's on a scale anymore that even matters. The outcome is the same but the strategy is different.

>>20002142
Not defending China, just shitting on the US. Which is clearly what trigger your NPC conditionning kek

>>20002152
You had better believe that Mao and his thugs took people's gold in China. There were still wealthy Chinese people in China prior to 1949 and the smarter or luckier ones left all their belongings behind and used their gold to bribe enough people to get out of China before the shit truly hit the fan.

>>20002152
And you know the common factor between China & Russia 60 years ago and USA today? They all three were ruled by bolchevik jews trying to install a talmudic paradise. Believing the outcome will be different this time is pure delusion. But you are not alone, every western country is in for the ride this time around.

>>20002219
Sure man. Well whatever chance at a semi-normal conversation there was just evaporated with this post so I'm calling it a night. Pce.

>>20002219
If you're suggesting that the US will be taken over by a Communist revolution as in Russia and China, I'm pretty sure you're wrong. One thing we have in the US is a lot of guns and most of the civilian guns are in the hands of people who will not submit to Communists. As for the military, they are largely made of up the "deplorables" from flyover country and I seriously doubt they will side with the Communists.

>>20002214
There were no gold left to steal in China, half the gold was looted during the nippon occupation and the other half scammed away by the US in exchange of (((fake))) bonds just prior to the japanese invasion, and never returned back.

Buy gold now or wait a few days?

>>20002303
Wait a few days. I am sure gold spot will drop 5 or 6 hundred dollars

>>20002290
The citizenry still had quite a bit of gold. I know this from firsthand accounts of the situation.

>>20002267
>who will not submit to Communists
You speak as if it not ALREADY happened. It's too late, you should have used your muh guns when it was still possible. You are already living in a communist hellhole, where the treasury and the FED destroyed free market and buy corporate bonds, where you get heavily censored for telling the truth and where commie militias are starting a rein of terror.

>>20002327
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. There is still some semblance of rule of law in the US and had the guns come out earlier as you suggest, only a very small percentage of people would have supported or participated and it would have rightly been seen as an act of sedition.

The current rioters are entirely different from the scammers who run the Wall Street frauds. They aren't going to get their Marxist revolution. They keep pushing this shit and the elites and everybody else will crush them as they bugs they are.

>>20002374
>They aren't going to get their Marxist revolution. They keep pushing this shit and the elites and everybody else will crush them as they bugs they are.
The sjws and niggers ARE the elites' golems, their useful idiots used to push their agenda and keep the whites' mouth closed by fear. How could you not see it? It's so painfully obvious, they don't even try to deny it.
You know where originated the racism/gender oppression card? In 20's Russia with Trotsky. The jews back then used to replace the supposedly racist white police forces with drunk/poors mongols from the steppes, teaching them how whites were evil and how systemic racism and bourgeois oppression could only be solved with a more racially diverse Russia and less white privileges.
Only took 2 years to have their chinkoid police to mass rape russian women and either goulag away or straight out shot in the head white men.

>>20002315
Thanks, I just bought.

Is it normal to have your precious metals insured in some way? Insurance

>>20002471
Most if not all dealers use insurance on their packages.

>>20002303
Wait. Actually you should wait more than few days, in few weeks we get the Q2 quarterly financial reports, it will be an absolute bloodbath on the markets when numbers like -50% globally are out for everyone to see. You can expect a big dip in SLV and GLD then. But you'll have to act quickly, because ppl will rush physical, even faster than in march because they learnt their lesson this time, and LCS stocks are alrdy extremely low while the mints preorders are alrdy locked up to late november.

So don't get too greedy, if you see some physical stuff sub $17-18 for silver you simply take it. Same for gold.

Which dealers DONT have a history of canceling orders when spot tanks or jumps massively?

>>20002545
uh??
All of them, they are bound by law to deliver, just like you are forbidden to cancel an order, it's an investment product with prices determined by markets fluctuations, if they cancel their business get terminated.

Anybody know anything about Donlin Mine up in Alaska? I have a friend of mine who moved up there after the military and he was telling me something about some big operation or something. Anybody else know more?

>>20002545
Not sure but SD lost a lot of reputation for canceling orders during the March dip.

>>20002471
yes anon, in the US its through your home owners policy. usually they'll let you add any amount but you get charged extra based on the value... i believe a standard policy allows for 500 or 1000. so you'll want to change your policy to adjust for the amount you have

>>20002508
Just bought 2 buffalos at 1780. I couldn´t wait any longer. Will buy again if there is a dip. It could take a big dip like in march, but we never know.

>>20002761
ok, so I assume most people add gold to their ´home insurance´thing. I live in europe, we have a same insurance that you have on the items in your home.

Gold combined with good music always hype me up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYTSbHvAjiQ

physical isn't going to drop again. the dealers aren't that stupid and have set up stop gap measures on the websites.
no more of that spot +premium so instead of when spot crashs you get a deal, now it'll go down a couple dollars at most

>>19998034
‘Federal bailouts run out’ will never happen when the printing press is running full tilt. Just saying...

>>20002847
"Federal bailouts run out" "of steam when the purchasing power of the US dollar collapses due to hyperinflation" is how the sentence should read.

>>19998053
That is also reason why white man are trashed right now. We stepped into world of spenders being good cituzens and white guys just don't spend money, their women do.
Being financialy conservative in 2020 = being enemy of the corporations.

>>20000561
not today amigo
now say yer prayers

>>20000272
yeah i havent been to /k/ for along time. almost a couple years since I've spent any time there, i left after the new trips took over and all that discord crap started

>>20003271
>all that discord crap
Please briefly explain to someone that didn't go to that board since 2015?

>>19995250
Based retard

>>20001507
I heard they had to kiss his balls like kissing a kings ring before he’d allow congress to begin

>>20002152
I hope you’re not seriously taking about Hong Kong. The cops there gave them a love tap compared to the US. 9 months of protest, and only one dumbass shot (who was reaching for the cops drawn gun from the side).

>>20003674
do you unironically get your news from Weibo?

Going to go see if there are any 2oz coins left on Tuesday.
Also I'm buying a house in the country.

are ships cool?

>>20004055

if you paid spot+3-5 or less, yes. if more, then no

>>20004055
If it wasn't for the gay modern background etching

>>20004215
I never pay more than spot for silver lol

Could whoever posted that huge box of apmex hand poured 10 oz bars post it again? (The one where you had them all lined up and one out of its packaging)
Im having a real hard time what 10oz bar to get and commit to and I want to see those apmex ones again

>>20004273
> larping this loudly

no thanks

>>20000999
huge bars, paint them to look like bricks, use them as weights / door stops or maybe a nice patio

>>20003674
You can't possibly be this dense without trying.

>>20004273

why don't you own any silver?

>>20004055

looks cool. any uss enterprises?