/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for bulls

Are you ready for the worst day of the stock market, ever?

first for never selling

No, you can't book a vacation!
You have to stay home and wear a mask going to the grocery. This isn't right, you are going to get infected and die!

Green Monday

>>19976456

Previous thread.

Didn't see this when making the thread because it didn't have a title.

>>19978602
Imagine the government is so up your rectum you have you wear one of those things in an open beach.

Fake virus is fucking fake, I don't want to wear a face diaper for the rest of my life I am not a fucking Muslim

Post yfw next week is green

>>19978564
yes

>>19978602
Excellent! If the airlines do another wave I will happily trade them again. And again. And again.

I went to park near local river yesterday around 1pm and the place was bumping. Parking lot full. People are not going to accept a second shutdown.

>>19978760
I'll post yesterday's dinner.
I made spicy chicken sandwiches.

WHAT KIND OF CLOWN MARKET IS THIS WHEN GAMBLING ON PENNY STOCKS IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME GREEN!?!?!?!?

>>19978781
>mayonnaise and ketchup
Bold. I like you.

>>19978781
Ooh very scrumptious looking. I do not often in to the deep fat frying on account of the cleanup involve.

>>19978823
No mayo. Hidden valley ranch on the tomatoes.

>>19978523
>splitting threads on a low-volume day
>>19978740
all you had to do is type smg in the search box

>>19978830
The onion rings were made in the oven. The boneless skinless chicken was breaded then cooked in a fry pan with olive oil.

I have achieved my goal of 15,000 dollars cash in my bank account
I will now begin to invest all excess cash directly into VTI for the next 25 years.
Thanks for reading my blog.

sentiment is hitting lows.

That disney guy better buy soon.

>>19978523
Get in NOVN boys its about to gap up hard

>>19978864
>just wage slave for 25 years, bro

>>19978893
I genuinely enjoy my job as a cyber security engineer and was able to build up my savings just 1 year in.

>>19978864
that's not very fun at all
at least hedge with options or something

Riced pin?

>>19978904
That's cool. I never liked any job I've ever had. I'm on like number 15 or so.

>>19978904
>I genuinely enjoy my job as a cyber security engineer

based (at least I think it is..). What does your day to day entail? Do you work for govt (zzz) or private industry? I work in OT (operational technology). I know you know of Stuxnext, so I program the PLCs that drive the motors and valves, etc in a factory.

>>19978751
The virus isn't fake. Only your demented psychosis.

>>19978777
I like this attitude. Carry on.

>>19978924
If you have a strategy with a more attractive risk/reward, I'm all ears.
>>19978935
I hope you find something you're passionate about someday anon

>>19978871
What Disney guy?

>>19978925
A year? They basically mean not until a vaccine I guess.

>>19978961
Only job I like is trading stocks. But I need more money to do it full time. I figure around 120k. I've got 70k to go.

>>19978961
costless collars on etfs

>>19978602
Gonna be honest but I sincerely think its the MSM causing sticks to drop. Regular people dont seem to care about the lockdowns and at this point will probably require martial law to be forced to stay home

>>19978875
Wrong thread.
Go to penny stocks:
>>19970373

>>19978796
So long as you are green why care?

>>19978953
Private, I work for a fortune 200 company that is a very large financial group.
>I program the PLCs that drive the motors and valves, etc in a factory
that's pretty neat, Stuxnet sure did a number on those babies.
>What does your day to day entail?
Varies pretty wildly. I do a lot of automation work to eliminate repeatable, manual tasks. Lately I've been helping build a test environment for our enterprise password manager. Also looking to automate de-provisioning across our unix/linux environment for employees who leave the company. So much work to be done at these huge, bloated companies, and everything moves slowly, but I enjoy the subject matter and am learning a lot.
>>19978996
I do enjoy doing opportunistic swing trading when possible, but it requires too much of my attention. Maybe someday.
>>19979004
I used to do a lot of defined risk options plays. Maybe once I build up enough capital, I can look at costless collars on SPY or something.

>>19978950
short answer is no, probably not

Anyone gonna play the CIDM earnings monday?

>>19979005
People and their fears cause stocks to drop. The media just reflects the people.

Is the Monday meme true? I am currently all in on WKHS and up nicely... Should I dump at open?

>>19979065
See
>>19979017

>>19979088
You should have dumped Friday. But yes dump it, cause it went up fast and will die just as quick.

>>19979070
> The media just reflects the people
I just don't know if this is true these days.

>>19978777
This. Ive ggotten info on what its like ou there the general public doesn't seem to care its msm that are hyping it up likely to crash the stock market and make trump look bad. Lmao when will regular people who are democrats realize that the MSM that they think are on their side are really just on their own side? Eg democrats who are invested in stocks are likely getting screwed over cause of the MSM trying so hard to dump it.

>>19979112
All people on both sides just want to hear an echo chamber of what they already think.

Why are my weekends so unproductive?

What is, in your financial opinion, the official cocktail of /smg/?

>>19978796
Lmao. Im considering going in with 10k on a promising penny stock. Should it work out i could come out with a 100k.

>>19979171
All full time stock traders need a horrible weekend job to remind them they need to do better.

>>19978904
Yeah not everyone does tho.

t. Intend to win big to retire before i hit 35.

>>19978751

Covid is real and does fuck up people with pre existing conditions. I had it and I couldn’t breathe for shit

So I posted a comment on a Walmart sponsored post on FB asking why the guy in the picture is wearing so much makeup and now the timeline won't load for me at all.

>>19979201
You will end up penniless and destitute trying to gamble like that, anon. That isn't what the stock market is for.

My serious question is what’s happening in 14 days?

>>19979177
well vodka

>>19979262
Earnings season begins.

Who else bought SHLL last week? Got in at 25.5, hoping for 30 on Monday

>>19979056
I'm already like 85% cash. I'm going the rest of the way at open on Monday.

There is NO WAY this thing holds all the way until the election. Any gains I may make would just be in constant danger of the rug pull.

I don't know when it's coming so I'm not going into puts but that shit IS coming at some point and I'm going to be waiting on TQQQ this time.

Do you guys think that markets will be upset when we get back to a 9/11 per week of deaths and widespread shutdowns? Or is that, dare I say, priced in?

>>19979177
A double size layered shot of some green drink, some red drink, and everclear. It's called The Bogdanoff Experience.

>>19979177
Plastic bottle Everclear

>>19979266
Sorry comrade, american wells don't have vodka.

>>19979286
What were you in anon?

>>19979270
I'm new to the game but what are some general / typical strategies around earnings? Something like "Well I think Boeing is going to report shit earnings, so I'll buy some puts before the earnings report and close them post earnings report"

>>19979288
Not going to happen. We're in a testing wave right now. This thing peaked before anybody even locked down.

All the cows were long gone before we locked the barn and now they're taking about installing more locks because they're finally counting stalls that have been empty since fucking March.

>>19979211
>1 post by this ID
how much do you get paid for this

>>19979308
AAPL selling covered calls. Scared as hell the entire time.

>>19979299
that or brass monkey

>>19979244
Depends with proper risk management and if your moves go the way you want them too. Especially since risk gets reduced the higher you get. And in my case my new strategy, should it work, would result in just missing out in larger gains if it goes my way. Otherwise I get left bagholding something I wanted anyways. Lmao I either get what I want in the form of stocks or in the form of extra cash. Patience is a large factor in this strategy too.

Did Friday price in second wave?
I can't believe it was just because two banks won't be able to pay dividends. Screw Wells Fargo.

>>19979314
That's the general idea, but it's more nuanced because sometimes the numbers are more or less priced in and earnings can temporarily move opposite.
For example, Kroger and Intel had great earnings last quarter but dumped after it was released as people sold the news. It's a bit of a gamble currently.

>>19978777
Airlines aren't a good buy anon just warning you. Even if personal travel and tourism is back up they're still going to get crushed. Most of their profits come from business class travelers, and most businesses are just doing business meetings over Zoom because even if they were to have Chad ThunderSales fly over to XYZ corp, the office is shuttered and nobody's there

How do I profit off of tomboys?

I have 35 dollars. How to get rich?

>>19979348
So you're just selling puts, then selling covered calls. That isn't going to let you retire at 35 anon.

>>19979070
>The media just reflects the people.
Lol you dont actually believe that do you!? Have you seen how obvious they've made it that they have their own motives and will push agenda after agenda on the populace until they sincerely believe it?

>>19979352
>>19979314
Everyone and their mother buys puts and calls before earnings. It is the least likely time to make money in options.

>>19979359
Have sex.

>>19979177
1oz vodka, 1/4oz lemon juice, ice, 3/4oz grenadine, mix
float a layer of green apple schnapps
top with a wedge of lemon for when shit gets tough

>>19979355
>Airlines aren't a good buy anon just warning you
Swing trade. Not long hodl.

>>19979369
Buy kneepads and suck dick for a $5. You'll get a lot of customers.

>>19979381
So... SELL calls?

>>19979359
athletic clothing I guess

>>19979369

>>19979403
ZM puts are suicide.

It is 500x past rationality.

>>19979278
Brokerage kikes wouldn't let me buy, otherwise I was going all in at 16.

So if I own a Tesla, can I just put it on auto pilot and take a nap while it drives me to wherever?

>>19979177
Kentucky whiskey for the american market, with bitters on red days (giving a good red color, use sugar as a spell for sweeter days ahead), giving the old fashioned.
Kentucky whiskey (as above) with dry vermouth and a green olive (i.e. a dry manhattan) on green days. The dry vermouth is to ensure you don't become sweet and mellow and let the gains slip.

>>19978564
Worst for who?

Actually, somebody should come up with a /smg/ drinking game.

>>19979431
>>19979431
>The dry vermouth is to ensure you don't become sweet and mellow and let the gains slip.
That's very thoughtful, anon.

>>19979414
I know I've lost thousands. But one day it will go the way of LK. Good luck timing it though

>>19979370
Wont say if it is or is not that as i prefer to keep it vague. Nonetheless had I done this strategy earlier on Id be up maybe 40k by now using pesimistic numbers, 100k+ being optimistic with a side of realisticalness. Have only noticed this pattern on a few stocks in particular tho. But decided to test it on a wider variety which may be a bad idea as it makes it harder to keep track of. Plus if I were to test it with only 20k Im mainly only putting at risk profits. If i fail it means stpcks plummeted, cool cheapies available again.

>>19978564
If it goes to zero does the entire market go into supermarket sweep mode

>>19979369
Sucking cock at 20 dollars a pop you'd only have to such realistically about 50000 dicks boom your a millionaire

>>19978523
how to get crypto gains with options?

Anyone buying OSTK or FSLY? Both have ridden out the bloodbath on Friday up 5%

>>19979487
Your mom must be as rich as Jeff Bezos, then.

>>19979472
The strategy you're describing is literally running the wheel on stocks. I don't see how options premiums are going to get you that much money, and if they did, you'd need a large capital investment in the first place to sell those puts and eventually hold the underlying. I can't think of any other strategy that exists in which you're describing.

>>19979467
Pretty sure it's just to have alcohol near you on a red day

>>19979403
should i use interactivebrokers or tastyworks?

>>19979515
Never use ibkr if you can help it.

>>19979467

Existence is a drinking game.

>>19979508
Kek. No you got it all wrong my dad is

>>19979507
>FSLY
Saw it at $45, and thought that was too high. I can't believe that stock has been going up for the past 3 months. A literal organic x5, it's crazy.

>>19979327
desu, i would keep that exposure at 85% who knows, doombull thesis could be right. maybe spread out a little.

>>19979536
Yeah, It's crazy. I felt stupid for buying in at $80, but now that it's up I don't know whether to hold or sell.

>>19979597
I did some research on it when it was around $4-5b MC, now it's basically $9b. Cloudflare is at $10.8b, and it seems like FSLY is eating up their market share.

I think it's solid, likely won't dump hard. I can't imagine it going up a lot more than it already did, but I thought that at 45 too so...

thoughts on the huge whale put on NFLX yesterday? 110 $330 puts were purchased for july 2. Red open for tech?

>>19979675
I think both NET and FSLY are strong buy and could reach ridiculous valuations in the coming years. Think >$1000 range.

>>19968506
>I was watching some vids from this guy George Gammon who really seems to know a lot and he seems to think a more likely scenario is them losing control of the bond market rather than currencies, you have any thoughts on that?
I don’t know how that would happen or what that would mean. Maybe I should check him out?

Everyone’s got predictions on how this ends terribly because it’s never been done before. But a country thats debt is denominated in the currency it issues can have pretty good control over its debt and inflation.

>>19968505
>Mmmm, but these guys need inflation to get out of control due to their liabilities as well. The debts need to be serviced and everyone is choking on over competitive dollars (too much credit expansion).
Maybe they do need inflation, but do they really need it to get out of control to the point where the rape hikes become absolutely necessary? Once these companies are able to return to profitability, couldn't they refinance, as the market (and banks?) would be much more willing to loan money to companies after they are profitable and even growing again?
Some may not be able to, and that is when the creative destruction of defaults could occur, erasing the “moral hazard” that some have been complaining about?

>Friday close
>everyone super bearish
>Saturday night
>everyone suddenly bullish on no news
Why does this happen every single week?

>>19978602
>Up 50% compared to last week
>0 last week
>0 this week
>Up 50% bro

OHHH BIG AMERICAN MAN YOU SO STRONG!! PlEASE I SQQQ YOU LAOWNG TIME

>>19979426
Only if your destination is death

>>19979426
Yes, put it on autopilot and allow it to drive you into an early grave. Your nap will be dreamless and eternal.

>>19979732
I am very bearish. We will retest March lows, and maybe even go lower. I am 100% sure of it

>>19979712
I bought NET when it was a bit over 22 a pop. Like a fool I sold at 30... If NET or FSLY get real big well the big fish may decide to eat them. Which is all well and good if your a shareholder.

>>19979712
Yeah, long term for sure, once this high volatility market is over, FSLY is going to be one of my long-term growth stocks

Is there any reason to not just constantly sell cash covered 7.50 puts on USAC hoping like hell to get assigned?

10% return every month until I get assigned at which point it's a 30% dividend... Would be boring as hell but basically zero risk.

>>19979317
Great theory, except positive test rates are rising.

>>19979732
Dont know what you've been reading, but almost no one I've seen is bullish right now

>>19979403
Yea I dont know how that works

UUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH... MOOOOOOMMMMMMYYYYY, NNNOOOOOOOO... I DONT WANT THE STOCK MARKET TO GO BACK DOWN.......... WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GREEN NOW............ MOOOOMMMMMMYYYYYYYYY.......... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHGGHHHHHG

>>19979794
Yeah?
From what to what over what period of time?
And how does that compare to the time period prior to that?

>>19979278
I got in at 17 right before market close Thursday. Plan to hold until the ticker change and sell my bags when the hype comes back.

>>19979317
> covid is a hoax
> it’s like that time when all my cows escaped...
You flu bros really are all hicks, aren’t you
> covid hasn’t reached my barn yet so it don’t exist!

>>19979872
Not going to waste my time.

https://medium.com/analyticaper/covid-19-what-the-data-tells-us-3a08e42ee36f

>>19979872
When the fuck did I say it's a hoax you blind retard?

>all these shills that come to a stock market thread and don't actually talk about the stock market but just about how we need to be afraid of a virus
I genuinely am starting to believe they're paid to do this shit.

The whole "black lives mater" thing has really gotten outta hand. Riots were bad enough, pulling classic films kinda worse, but now actors are quitting voice parts over it. They're turning down a fat paycheck just cause they're voicing a non white character. I mean what the fuck man.. Like who cares what the race of the person doing the voice is. A black dude voicing a white character sure wouldn't turn down the check or give a shit about it. Long as your doing your job and getting paid for it why the fuck should you care..

>>19979951
Time for BYFC re-entry?

That feel when you're 80% bonds and 10% cash

>>19979951
I think it's great. Those people have always been at the forefront of pushing cancer cancel culture and now it's come for their own jobs. Fuck em.

>>19979934
1 post by this ID

>>19979951

>>19979997
1 post by this ID

>>19979985
Holy shit this is a one-day chart. What the fuck happened? Is this normal?

>>19979807
Best order flow guy I know says he's buying big if we gap down to 2960 sunday night

>>19979776
>$7.5 puts @ $0.01
>Current price $11.55
>Need $750 to cover your put
>Make $1 each month
Double check your math on that 10% bit...

>>19979712

Fastly would have to be a nearly 1 tril company to get to $1000.

>>19980004
Dude, I was just in another thread were this exact same fake quote was posted. Soro's no saint but attributing fake quotes to people only hurts your own cause.

>>19980019
>Holy shit this is a one-day chart. What the fuck happened? Is this normal?
I don't think so but I have a bachelor's in business management from a hick college

>>19980005
yeah but me not complaining about people talking only about viruses O_O

>>19980035
At $86, MC is 9b
So $1000 share price is MC of 100b, entirely doable

Crypto is an equity I guess.

>>19979177
Cocktails are for supervillains, real stock traders are so hooked on coke they don't have time to drink

I like my job benefits other than one little thing. The health coverage. If I added my wife to my plan the hit on my check would go up $241 a month. This don't cover dental or vision either. Those would add another 50 to the total. Then by the time you accounted for co-pays and whatever you'd be screwed. The only reason I even bother with insurance is to cover the basics and in case some freak auto accident happens.

>>19979712
Strongly considering buying back in after having secured profit at $30.

>>19980051

>>19979951
Why do you?
I forgot this wasn't /pol/ but, who gives a fuck about (((entertainment))) anymore, I only watch 2 things, Joe Rogan and rocket league videos, anything else is literally trash, every show with an interesting plot will eventually become SJW nightmare, faggots, niggers, lesbians and if directors don't comply into turning their script in to something more "progressive" they get mob ruled by a bunch of pink haired faggots on Twitter.

I can't even watch Ted talks anymore because they turned that shit in to black transgender studies there is only monkeys patronizing white idiots on how systematic racism and white privilege is destroying America, whites are afraid to talk against all this negro centric trash because they have seen this nigger nazis destroying anyone who even dares questioning any of this none sense.

To me is fucking amazing how fucking dumb the average nigger is that the only thing they can discuss without looking like a complete and utter fucking sub human is slavery, rosa parks and all that stupid shit because if you try to engage in any other topic like economy for instance they have no fucking idea what to say, all their lives revolves around negro studies, how much of a victim they're and how we are supposed to bend over backwards so they'll succeed, even if we have to dumb our selves down to include them on everything cus other wise you're racist and shit

>>19979776
What do they do?

>>19980032
Those are the puts for this month. Further out they're .40 - .90
If I sold 20 7.50 puts at .90 that's $1,800 basically towards the purchase of 2,000 shares I want to have anyway. And the $15k isn't even an actual cost it's collateral that I HOPE gets called away.

It isn't a ton of money but I'm having trouble seeing the risk. USAC isn't a shitcoin either it's relatively stable. So I could even sell some higher shirt term puts, let them get assigned, then sell covered calls on those while collecting dividends.

Again, not a ton of money but I'm having trouble seeing the risk.

>>19979317
It hasn't peaked. They found the chink flu in Barcelona's residual waters dating from march 2019 and nobody noticed. This virus doesn't do shit on summer and kills on winter-spring. That's why death rates are lower

>>19979893
> I never said hoax
Fair enough, you didn’t. You said it had peaked before lockdowns. That’s nearly as crazy as calling it a hoax.
Many countries actually managed to bring the virus under control, the US isn’t one of them. Notably, countries that have are either very controlled by the state (strict lockdowns) or have very conformist and well educated populations (social distancing taken seriously, e.g. Norway). But the US only managed to put a dent into the spread and it’s clear we can’t afford more lockdowns and that both the left (floyd protests) and right (re-open protests) are too dumb to take it seriously enough to stop the spread, even when hospitals recently went over capacity on only the most modest foothill of the upcoming mountain of covid hospitalizations.
There’s no need to quibble anymore. It’s inevitable now. You’ll see I’m right soon enough. It’s too late and Americans are too dumb. I’m just sitting back and beholding the mounting panic among people who actually thought there would somehow not be millions of dead Americans and overwhelmed hospitals for a year. Sure, most (75%) will be old, over 65. You won’t die. But millions will. It’s one thing to accept facts and numbers and shrug, but pretending they are not true should be a little below the intellectual ambition level of this general.

>>19980106
I don't watch modern TV shows much anymore to be honest. The only one I'll watch is Law & Order SVU or some of those real I.D shows. For entertainment I turn to my plex server.

>>19980120
They sell the compressors that run natural gas lines.

They have basically no competitors and pay like a 17% divvy and the stock pretty much never moves drastically except during times like this. It'll never moon as a stock but the dividend is solid as hell.

>crypto right now
I know anything can happen at any time to the market now but it seems like crypto is a leading indicator

>>19980166
>SVU
>exaggerated fantasies masquerading as crimes
ngmi

>>19980145
Satellite images of Chinese hospitals indicate higher than usual traffic dating back to August

Although none of this is going to matter once Three Gorges Dam breaks. 400 million people in the path of the destruction.

>>19980153
I'll be sure to hold you accountable to your word on this anonymous message board when literally none of what you just predicted happens.

>>19979717
>would be much more willing to loan money to companies after they are profitable and even growing again?
>Some may not be able to, and that is when the creative destruction of defaults could occur, erasing the “moral hazard” that some have been complaining about?
If only the invisible hand wasn't a fucking nonce.

WKHS is getting added to Russell Index
Moon mission Monday

>>19979846
True except with Jpow

>>19980213
SHLL > WKHS

>>19980213
In additional bullish news for WKHS

>>19980035
Considering that NET and FSLY are literally the backbone of the nuternet and especially all "big tech" endeavors with public-facing components, I see that as somewhat probable, which is why I'm saying $1000 is possible. Also, by the time that happens, the biggest players should be worth in the dozens of trillions. All false valuation of course but good enough to make everyone a lot of money.

>>19978777
>People are not going to accept a second shutdown.
No, you don't get it. The scary part is that no matter the severity, we won't get a second shut down, even if we get on our knees and plead for it. It might be a nothing burger, but our masters will send us to work no matter what.

I might go all in with my fucking around fund on NET and WKHS Monday. I've already taken profit on both, and both probably have more room to grow.

>>19980141
I assumed monthlies because you said "every month." But if you're selling puts further out, you're not getting that $1,800 each month, you're getting it each *however many months out*. Unless I'm misunderstanding you?

>>19980237
ah yes, we've heard this story many times. I wonder how it'll end?

>>19980236
Sure we will. Just vote for biden

>>19980236
Because shutting down is more damaging

>>19980267
Biden wouldn't take office until Jan, plenty of time to prepare

>>19980223
Wish I could have bought both desu

>>19980224
>>19980213
can't wait to retire on my 7500 shares bought at $4

>>19980202
Yeah you do that. Why don’t you screencap it and look at it in two months and see if you laugh.
> muh two weeks or months or whatever.
No, the evidence is clear and overwhelming right now. But in two months it will be New York-tier obvious in multiple places (Florida, Texas, Arizona among them) and in four or five months it will even have reached your neck of the woods and managed to spread enough via your village shop and bi-weekly poker nights to do enough damage that people will begin to recall how you made a big thing out of telling everyone covid was nothing and start thinking of you as the village idiot.
Good times.

>>19980253
>>19980237
Prepare to get bogged.

>>19980224
Isn't that more for SHLL considering they're going to selling to as many EV manufacturers as possible as opposed to directly competing?

>>19980267
You don't get it, it's the fucking budgets. Liabilities and debt don't just disappear. for the states it doesn't matter what it happens to be. The sun could go and start zapping us all with infrared and they will not "shut down." get your head out of your ass faggot

>>19980278
It doesn't matter if it would be more or less damaging. They will send you to work.

>>19980253
he might be down -10% to -20% in a worst case scenario that's very low chance to happen anyway? oh no?

>>19980243
No I wouldn't get that full amount every month because I'd roll them forward. Only risk of being assigned is a massive immediate crash but I'd be hoping for that.

The money from the puts would basically be payment received for the time I'm waiting on buying. Probably sell and roll forward once they reach 50% profit.

>>19980278
> Because shutting down is more damaging
It’s not, if you do it right and you can afford it. The US can’t. We’re like a heart patient who can’t afford the surgery and so we’re putting on a brave face and pretending it’s no big deal. Or like an ostensible free world leader that can’t whip up a bunch of masks for its population in time to meet a pandemic.

>inb4 fake vaccine news to prevent a black monday

Yeah my state's working on getting school back on full time during the fall. Making kids wear masks and shit. (trying to keep some 5 - 7 year old in said mask is another thing). So soon as that happens it'll be back to work full time for everyone else to boot.

>>19980390
i love how vaccine news pump market as if it would instantly fix economy and bankrupted companies suddenly recover

>>19980339
Dipshit fucking moron I already had this nothing burger of a virus. Everybody here had it. No one knew what it was so it was just "yeah that's been going around since November or so. it sucks and then you lose your voice for a couple weeks."

That shit happens like every fucking winter and every fucking winter it kills old people and AIDS patients and this one just got around more and soft headed sooner morons who are bored to hell with their lives decided this was their moment to be important.

Daily reminder S&P 500 is FAANG + dead weight.

>>19979507
I've been bullish on OSTK since 2016

>>19980106
Noted. Niggers only care about one thing: niggers, i.e., what's in it for them. What gibs can they guilt whitey into giving them. White people run the gamut of progressive causes, environmentalists, saving whales, veganism, all number of obscure shit white people care about. Niggers? Only niggers. Even supposed nigger intellectuals always seem to in some way circle back to talking about niggers. It's very one dimensional and obvious.

>>19980434
do this for 10 more years plz i was late with getting a bunch of money to invest

Anybody know why there is a significant difference in performance between BUD (Anheuser Busch) and SAM (Boston Beer Company)?

>>19980190
I once dated a girl who enjoyed watching SVU. She ALWAYS wanted to have sex during or afterwards. Pretty uncomfortable tbqh, but I got over it.

>>19980455
>$85 in 2018
>$1 during corona crash
Please explain

>>19979732
Bearish we will se March lows doubt it maybe we will see spy 240 at worst

>>19980458
also they dont give a fuck about africa unless to complain in some way to help AA.e

BULLISH ON WKHS

>>19979764
>>19980504
Banks are already close to April lows. Are you saying FAANG is dumping soon too?
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>>19980434

>>19980224
Holy shit. California is fucking insane.

>>19980549
This has to be some kind of communist plot to destroy the country at this point.

>>19980344
Nah, Hyliion and Workhorse won't be competing with each other as they are now. WKHS is almost exclusively in the delivery truck niche, where their only real competitor is Rivian. WKHS could very well become the dominant player when it gives to delivery trucks.
On the other hand, Hyliion is exclusively in to long haul trucking. Here they compete with Tesla, Nikola, and some other random and established companies. They're less likely to dominate, but they have a good chance of being a major player.

>>19980406
I think it's the reminder shit will be over. Medical news has had far less impact lately though.

>>19980224
How's that even legal? Wouldn't the average joe/jane be pissed cause they couldn't drive the Jeep Wrangler with the top down year round (close to it anyway)?

>>19980605
In another first-in-the-nation move to tackle climate change, California will require automakers to sell more electric trucks starting in 2024. The measure, approved unanimously Thursday by the California Air Resources Board, says that by 2045 all new trucks sold in the state should be zero-emissions.

It's another "we solved climate change" with 2045 mandates not realizing guessing shit for that far off is pointless.

>>19980625
California will be in the pacific by 2045 god willing.

>>19980555
Facebook and Netflix are supposed to dump if unusually large option volume is to be trusted. Very, very soon too, as in next week or the week after at latest.

>>19980625
I still drive a 1997 jeep cherokee. Who buys new cars?

>>19980625
lol, I remember truck drivers shitting themselves over California's gig economy law not too long ago.

>>19980458
Is not even that, they know they're dumb as all fucks, so instead of making an effort to rise they get bye by pulling everything and everyone to their level, if I think their fucking music stinks because all they talk about is drugs, money, bitches and zhit somehow I am racist for not coming down to the level of literall feral niggers, I am supposed to be high on xanax and drink cough syrup otherwise I am oppressing them.
I am supposed to allowed them to believe economics is just a tool to oppress them cus niggas be dumb and all that economy shit is white privilege and shit.

It has nothing to do with racism and they know it, is about how fucking stupid they're and how are we supposed to treat them more like pets than criminals in their minds cus niggas got to hustle.

America is perhaps the less racist country in the continent, niggers are seen worst than garbage in places like Argentina and even Brazil that is full of them, ask this same fucking monkeys to go out and do their jazz in a humble place like fucking Chile see what the result is going to be.
Tell them to go to China, they love African immigration

>>19980625
Oh, so sold in CA. Then it's pointless, all these trucks are driven all over the country anyway, just buy it somewhere else

>>19980605
Pretty sure this law applies to commercial vehicles, not consumer stuff.

>>19980589
The virtue signaling is real

>>19980589
Those "regulators" make 7 figures and don't give a single shit about the effects of their pipe dreams on people who actually have to worry about if they don't have a paycheck for a couple weeks. But hey, the solution to that is just more welfare.

>>19980750
I personally think this is more about California attempting to impose its will on the rest of the country

>>19980694
It's really hard to take you seriously when you type like you dropped out in middle school. Jesus Christ have some discipline and proof read your ramblings.

movie movie movie movie movie movie

10 minutes to movie night! Tonight's feature is გიორგობისთვე (1966)!

>>19980471
Took a look. Looks like boomer stock with a lot of debt vs. growth stock with next to no debt.
Other factors to consider are reliance on bar, restaurant, and event sales. That said, that rally on SAM is crazy.

>>19979211
seen this exact post spammed 18 times so far?
maybe its a bot post?

>>19980764
Yeah well that's California. That's why their exemption to pursue stricter emissions limits than everyone else was pulled, though I believe it's being held up in some leftist court somewhere and it'll take forever.

>>19980797

oh my god, it's just so DEEP and ARTSY

>>19980797
uhhhh cant we just watch homeward bound

>>19980797
looks like Holy Mountain or something

I'm gonna eat McDonalds and watch Get the Gringo. goodnight /smg/ I love you

Movie night movie night! Get in here!
>>19980815
>>19980848
>>19980856
What the heckies it's litorally a normal, conventional drama film (albeit Soviet). I was thinking about showing The Color of Pomegranates (1969) which is like Jodorowsky, but I thought you wouldn't like it :<

>>19980797
ugh it no letting name be პენისი

>>19979369
take a loan buy KIN 1000 call options thank me when you’ve made it >>19980153
let the boomers die.
homes will be cheaper better jobs will be available quality of life goes up.

Could you guys please decouple yourselves from the crypto market this is really annoying and I want to moon

>>19978564
seeing crypto plunge today make me belive this

>>19980213
Looking through that document, where does it say they'll be added on Monday ?

>>19979211
I had it, it was nothing, a ton of people at work tested positive for the anti bodies, it will kill you if you are fat or old

>>19979286
waiting on TQQQ th
whats your entery point I was thinking 30-40 after rug pull. Im 90% cash sitting on 70k

Am I the only one who thinks the virus IS bad, and shutdowns WERE a decent policy decision (especially considering how they fucked it up and didn't stockpile PPE and testkits), BUT it still provided the perfect opening for the politicians to force use the fed to line the pockets of the top .00001%?

>>19979885
>We got it wrong and now we’re largely tracking it wrong

OK
but this doesn't DISprove that rates of infection are rising. I suspect they are, and it's not just that our data is bad. We have people trying to "return to normal" which is what people have done during most crises throughout time.

>Bombs are hitting london sporadically, well we're not dead, go out and fetch the paper and maybe later we'll go out for tea.

>>19979934
>I genuinely am starting to believe they're paid to do this shit.
You're bias is pretty clear there, you're noticing the posts you disagree with and identifying them as the "paid" subverters. There's also PLENTY of people posting about it being a nothingburger scam. Our most retarded and cancerous avatar-poster is happy to come in to tell you there's no such thing as the coronavirus.
And honestly I've never seen that retard be right about anything.

>>19981041
>Am I the only one who thinks the virus IS bad, and shutdowns WERE a decent policy decision
The reaction was inverse of what was rational. They should have shut down airports and cruise lines earlier and enforced mask wearing and similar measures. Instead they kept international travel open and told masks were useless. And then they committed economic sudoku, instead of just sacrificing airlines and cruise lines.

>>19978781
I would devour that, fren.

>>19978781
Ah... a fellow poor man. How do you do?

>>19979177
>drinking alcohol

Literally never going to make it.

>>19979278
I got in with 324 @ $16.98. It's cool knowing I'm going to make it.

Guys how did you go about learning options?

>>19981083
>They should have shut down airports and cruise lines earlier and enforced mask wearing and similar measures.

Yes. They couldn't do that though because they had planned to "let it rip" if trumps words are to be believed. Then, after letting the rest of the world buy up the masks and tests and other PPE,

I don't understand why they didn't close travel with Italy earlier, and I suspect it has to do with Trump's need to target china.

The guys at the top of Carnival Cruises gave trump courtside seats to The Heat game and donated to his campaign and sponsored episodes of The Apprentice and had Melania christen one of their ships. I think that could be relevant.

But really, he really really didn't take it seriously until the shutdown was, to my thinking, necessary.

>>19981146
just buy one i usually do the one that is closest to the money already

>>19981083
Or at least install humidifiers in public places to decrease virus transmission..

>>19980207
ah! you're the guy I was replying to I think.

>>19980901
The other part was for (you)

>>19981153
>necessary
Necessary to save 80 year olds and overweight joggers it turns out. To save grandma and your diabetic friend there are measures other than destroying small businesses and increasing suicide among young people due to unemployment.

>>19981183
Really? I didn't read into this. Long time ago I read a scientific article on how the flu transmits better in high relative humidity.

>>19981201
Nah..
first google result

https://www.livescience.com/27533-flu-transmission-humidity.html

David Sinclair one of the more intelligent people on Earth talked about it but it would take too much time to dig up.

>>19981226
Basically along with reducing the particle spread. Humidity improves some natural protection mechanisms of protection.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2034399/

I believe it is the "mucus" but not exactly sure how I remembered it right. again i try to maximize speed of intake of knowledge and compress all this shit, I don' treally focus on transmissible to others so I don't really care about exact words

Basically The mucus in your throat/nose or whatever is improved by humidity and it helps offer a natural protection from such airborne virus, while a dry throat / nose will hurt your ability.

So a hot/humid environment is very beneficial for many many reasons

- more probiotic bacteria alive on surfaces that competes with the virus
- mucus functions better
- air transmission is worse

etc

So yeah humidification actually would reduce R0

>>19981201
>Necessary to save 80 year olds and overweight joggers it turns out.
my friend, you worry me that you are simply being contrarian. If we had let it rip and expected americans to take their own precautions, our deaths would look worse than sweden's. Our hospitals would have been filled with corpses, and relatively healthy people would have been unable to get medical attention. We'd probably have people dying of appendicitis and shit.

At that point, it was too late. We didn't want to look like Ecuador.

Do we know yet how many people are going to require a lifetime of dialysis, or was that just a temporary thing?

Got 13K for cheapies once we have a Monday crash. What should I get?

>>19981226
>>19981271
Interesting. I was thinking of a ferret experiment I read about long ago but it turns out coughing ferrets also confirm flu transmits better in dry conditions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6364647/
>Studies in guinea pigs [33] and ferrets [34] have shown that dry conditions favour transmission.

Shill me something bros got 469$ to invest and oil isn't going up quickly so its a long hold

>>19981317
I would wait a couple weeks

>>19981317
If it's another March episode wait like the other guy said and don't go all in.

>>19981328
There's going to be a stimulus sometime in July since extra unemployment is over then.

I think the cheapest will be in early July

>>19981368
DXD HODLERS.

>>19980213
>ZM
Seriously wtf is with this shit

>>19981368
>>19981406
I never really watched these porn annie mays, but since ishuzoku was so good maybe I should give them a shot

>>19981368
gonna make a /smg/ edit out of this thanks for the idea

>>19981434
index/etf slave

All aboard. Next stop: 230.

Next week earnings are below (percentage is at the money premium as percentage of market price):
CPRI (Capri Holdings) [Luxury Retail] +6.6% retail is risky but good premium.
MU (Micron) [Tech] +4.1% good company, but semis are volatile
CAG (Conagra) [Food] +3.3% Pretty safe, everyone needs food
M (Macys) [Retail] +7.2% Might declare bankruptcy lmao

I am doing CPRI and CAG

>>19978602
>holiday bookings explode
Tell that to my CCL stock

>>19981442
desu, haven't watched DXD. I just liked the ticker for -2 inverse DJIA. I get really stupid sometimes with my money because I have ticker retardation.
>SCHD (shid)
>SCHG (shig)
>SOXX
>DXD
>DOG
>SHIP
I haven't held JNUG or NUGT yet.

>>19979314
Act on knowledge before the knowledge is widespread. If it hits a major news outlet it's already priced in.

>>19979369
CLSK

>>19981507
ah, and how can i forget JMOM

>>19981507
My investing strategy is buying tickers that spell anime characters. It works alright sometimes, got me MU while it was real cheap.

>>19979190
whats ticker pussy

>>19979519
why?

>bearish
you're telling me to go all in on tvix sqqq and other 3x leveraged etfs

>>19981318
yeah it's crazy they dont do the simplest shit like decreasing the AC in Texas, even though 6 degrees wouldn't alter it heavily it's basically a free move alongside humidity in cost/benefit.

>>19981521
unequivocally based, high IQ, and DD pilled

>This is cancellable rape in 2020, imagine being a internet celeb


He even did it to Lily (she gave me permission to share this.) When she was going through her hard breakup with Albert, Fed also walked into her room while she was drunk. She was laying down and he asked if she wanted a massage. She said sure, and he started off massaging her leg, and then up her thighs. A week or so later, he was drunk and laid down next to her, and told her he liked her. She then felt uncomfortable with everything, and he asked her to not tell anyone what happened. Again thinking back, it felt like he tried to take advantage of Lily when she was in a really vulnerable state.

>>19981542
DD wasn't looking so hot last I checked; double digit put/call ratio. NM A (calls) brought me some decent gains though. I will buy and hodl DD forever once it looks better.

>>19981495
>made in china planes
THEY GET WHAT THEY DESERVE

>>19980764
They already do that

>>19981575
kek, i meant due diligence, but keep rocking it senpai. we're all gonna make it, but you're definitely gonna make it.

reminder that if you're not buying long calls on wkhs you're cheating yourself out of early retirement

>>19981632
lets say 1 contract is like 200 bucks

what is the benefit of buying that 1 contract over like 20 shares

i would run out of money so fast if it was caught up in options i dont know how much more the gains would be i have like 100 shares vs maybe like 5 contracts

>>19981632
>buying options on a 9 dollar stock

>>19979177
A shot of whisky, if anyone mixes, or diluted anything then I’ll gladly point out where the women restrooms are if you’re lost.

Seems like higher volatility is here to stay for at least the next month. Come monday I will add 25k to UGL and 7k to TMF, doubling up on my positions

>>19981666
>not buying options on 9$ stock
You'll thank me when wkhs is 18$ by July 20 and the options you bought for .40 are now 5.65

Looking to go all in on $CLDR on Monday.

>>19981674
I think a new stimulus passing would reduce it but not sure what the timetable the senate is working on besides by end of July.

It's really going to be interesting how the market reacts. I think most of the big economies outside USA that matter have very good handles on covid.

>>19981184
Haha, peekaboo

>>19980589
>>19980625

That's the only good thing about California.
You Americans would be lagging behind Cina in ev market if it weren't for their retard legislation

>>19981685
Let me guess, you bought calls on WKHS?

https://www.fool.com/amp/investing/2020/06/27/boeing-finally-admits-that-aircraft-demand-is-zero.aspx
So all in on ba calls on Monday right?

>>19981716
at 4$ and sold at 10 on Thursday
Went from .30 something to 1.93

>>19981475
CAG looks nice thanks

>>19981657
a contract is by definition 100 shares. For the price of the premium, you control 100 shares worth of equity. Leverage is the advantage. 2) buying shares, they go down, you lose money, your stuck bagholding. With a call, you've already paid the premium, if it goes down you don't have to exercise your option. Your not exposed to the risk of ownership

>>19978777
Nah I miss lockdown.
Less tards at my job.
I hate people and interacting with them face to face, corina kept the worlds cretins on a leash

>>19981758
doesnt seem that much better

tesla is worth 1000

i could keep my 100 shares of whks as long as i want

your expensive contract get u like more gains but not that much more considering how much u payed i already looked into wkhs calls

>>19981718
Boeing is going to quietly euthanize the 737 MAX and dump inventory in developing sectors for a fire sale price. Unironically they will only be close to form with their next aircraft design which might take until 2025.
This stock will be kept afloat from index ETFs like Zoom is, and for no other reason.

>market downtrend
how long will this last i might as well dump my bags at monday open

>>19981876
i hate msnbc dude

its literally their fault for making up coronavirus numbers and making states shut down now

its so lame dude

line moves on Monday?

>>19980382
why USAC?

I expect better in 7 days, or...

the most bullish symbol of 2020

>>19980500
selling calls and puts all the way down and up

>>19981699
heh heh
I still don't see why it's all downhill now from that theory.

And I'm getting uncomfortable with EVERYONE being bearish right now.

>>19981807
what work?
I miss lockdown too!
But damn did I waste this time. and now I need one of those job things.

>>19981904
Got too cocky bobo

>>19981852
WKHS is a shitty example, its option chain is garbage. point is, a contract allows you to temporarily control an very large amount of money for a relatively small price.

>>19981902
oh god, I'll find something more fun. I liked the movee!

How is it possible that stocktwits is more conspiracy mongering than you people are

What was the bottom for sp500 near the end of March?

>>19981852
If you say bought 10 10$ calls on wkhs for 1.45 on Friday when it was 9$ expiring august 21st, if it goes to 15 by say July 20 on the hopes of them getting the usps contract, you'll make 191%, give or take, or 3700$, so you'll have 5700 total. If you had the same 2000$ in shares, at basically 10$ right now, and they go to 15, you only make 50%, so you'll end up with 2500.

>>19981973
because they're a bunch of twits

>>19981973
Stocktwits is 98% bagholders, usually from FOMOing in to run ups or pump and dumps
Bagholding leads to mental illness.

>>19981973
Normies, boomers, shills

>>19981991
Pic related

>>19981991
aight thanks for laying that out for me

>>19981890
Gap down

>>19982039
But, if it goes down instead of up, or even sideways, you are completely fucked. Shares go back up most of the time so you can just bag hold for years if you have to but options? Poof, your money is gone

>>19982078
i know thats why im keeping my shares an will maybe buy an option here and there
and mix it up

im never going only options

>>19981322
vaxart

May as well finish the old thread next!!
>>19976456
>>19976456
>>19976456

>>19981322
XSPA esp if price falls again on Monday

>>19981507
I bought UUUU for this reason

>>19982164
>>19978709
Ahhh I'm in an infinite loop!!!