/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19931351
its called being human lmao u fking logic robot

>>19931351

Read a book nigger, specifically The Bell Curve. The bottom 15% of Western society can barely function as human beings, let alone read complex books on how to operate devices like computers effectively. Learn to program is such a dumb meme because most people will never be able to physically do it effectively.

>>19931351
better question is why the fuck should i care about niggers?

>>19931400
>>19931431

>>19931366
Poor people don't give a shit about you though

>>19931351
Yea, because if the guy who can't even get my happy meal right is building my house we'll be much better off as a society. The problem in society is our obsession with progress and a scorn for simple living. Things would improve if we went back

>>19931351
A lot of people who are poor have diseases that chose them, retard.

>>19931366
>moralfag
lmao, if you are atheist or agnostic KYS brainlet
>>19931400
3% of humans are mentally retarded. no shit the bottom 15% of people can't grasp the concept of software engineering, what a retarded argument. If you aren't literally retarded there is zero reason why you shouldn't be able to graduate college with a bachelor's degree and make $50,000/year minimum. people are poor because they are lazy. period.
>>19931431
based
>>19931578
the retard making your happy meal lives in a reality where education is "wack". fuck him/her. why the absolute fuck should you care about someone with those types of values?
>>19931767
wrong

>>19931351
>Your shit pay is a direct reflection on your life choices
This is the logical conclusion of "everybody is the same" logic. So all in all I think you should kill yourself you commie scum

>>19932434
I'm not the one who thinks lazy pieces of garbage deserve a livable wage lmao

>>19932634
The problem is that not all poor people are lazy pieces of garbage. Many work tirelessly for a pittance. And where would society be without the epsilons?

>>19931351
>your pay is directly related to how hard you work
obvious bait OP, try harder. It obviously also comes down to resources, upbringing, opportunities, and surroundings. Who let you back on the keyboard?

>>19931351
No problem is not the wages its the consoomer mentality that normies and women have. They dont know jack shit about how to use money live paycheck to paycheck Muh instagram travel stories Muh 1000$ phone. You cant save people from themselves.

>>19932273

Try training someone with an IQ of under 95 to do anything some time

Poor people create crime.
Plus there never was enough jobs for everyone.
Pretty smart to give folks a cashless credit card and avoid worrying about getting mugged.

>>19931351
>why the fuck should I care about poor people
Why specify poor people? Are you implying there are groups of people you should care about? Your statement may as well say “why should I care about people” which is the crux of the question.

you should care about them because by the time they're at your door with a guillotine it will already be too late

Op is having the common misconception that we see way too often.. that "success is a result of hard work!"

If you use your brain for 10 seconds you'd realize that life is a game of luck.
And that you are exactly where you are 95% due to dumb luck.
0. What are your genetics.
1. How smart are your parents.
2. How were your parents temperments.
3. Were your parents rich.
4. How good at teaching were your parents.
5. Did anything bad Ever happen to you.
6. Where did you grow up.
7. Where did you go to school.
Etc etc

People act like critical thinking is something youre born with.
Prettt dumb.

>>19931351
> I got mine
> Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps!
> Why the fuck should I care about poors
> It's their fault their poor!
OK Boomer. The average STEM graduate today has to work longer hours, compete for fewer jobs, and at less pay, than their counterparts even 10 years ago?. You probably still think kids can pay for college with just a summer job. Unless your a minority today, there is no sea of free college gibs for the average college kid. Need I get into H1B's and wage suppression over 40 years? lol you probably think we live in a free market too.
> Muh trades
This is like telling people to "just go work the coal mines!". Trades have their own massive problems. Most tradespeople aren't making 100k a year, or even 50k for that matter. Starting your own shop in many places is almost impossible because of barriers to entry, and good ol' boys who "dont want no competition" to keep prices high.
>>19931400
Statistically, this means we have ~50 million people in the USA who have an IQ <85. They cannot be trained in even the most basic tasks, are barely able to function on their own, contribute nothing to society, yet take up space and consume. This is even worse in overpopulated countries- Think a population the size of the USA in India / China of literal potatoes who just consume. In most eras these people died before they were adults, now they're simply societal dead weight.
>>19933888
Checked. Success is as much luck / divine intervention as having the ability to take advantage of opportunities. The rich kid with a trust fund to fall back on has the opportunity to fail a LOT more than the poor kid with "one chance" from the ghetto, and just by numbers alone the rich guy can fail until he finds "something that works", while for a poor kid often one fuck up is a lifetime setback.

>>19933888
trips of truth

>>19933626
>it obviously also comes down to resources, upbringing, opportunities, and surroundings.
resources: pell grants, student loand
upbringing: cop out
opportunities: kek, no handouts, faggot
surroundings: move, faggot

>>19933783
Sorta. Poverty creates crime because the risk for criminal behavior is less than doing nothing, or being lawful. Poverty culture is truly something to behold if you ever actually get a chance to observe it
> All money obtained is spent immediately, because money most of the time wont be there
> Accumulation of wealth is punished. People will steal just because you have something they want in that moment, there is no long term thinking involved.
> Going to jail as seen as a good thing and gives street cred (this is a fun feedback loop into for profit prisons)
> Government entitlements are seen as just part of how life works
> In some households, entire generations of people have never worked a day in their lives, and the concept of work ethic is alien
Fixing this would take 50-70 years. It's really no surprise civil war is encouraged now since it solves severe population and culture issues by attrition alone.

>>19933888
>It's Not My Fault I'm Poor!
- A Memoir of a Lazy Millennial

>>19934354
Actually im rich and i destroy everyone in the ol iq test.
Also i was lucky enough to have a father who did all kinds of psychadelic drugs.
I have no real problems.

My uncle who was born to an abusive alcoholic however is not so lucky.

>>19934910
whoa cool, your bar is still incredibly low. I'd bet you have low self-confidence and are exceptionally beta.

it does not take a genius to get a bachelor's degree or learn how to weld.

people are poor because they are lazy and complacent.

>>19931351
Cool.
I hope someday you get ass raped by the throbbing dick of karma and find yourself homeless.

>>19935843
I certainly won't be wanting other people to feel sorry for me like some sort of monumental beta pussy.

>>19933796
look at this thread, retard. you have groups of people literally freaking out at the notion that you shouldn't care about the poor. it is blatantly obvious that people have been brainwashed that we should care about them

you should care about those that are close to you

you should not care about anyone else.
However, because of the current social climate, you simply have to PRETEND that you care about everyone and everything. Otherwise you're risking getting in trouble. Swallow your pride, keep your mouth shut and pretend you care

>>19935910

You are an extremely sheltered and naive individual, and it shows painfully ITT. You should get out and mature a few years before posting this topic again. Try reading the New Testament.

>>19936210
Based and redpilled.

>>19936254
>Try reading the New Testament.
This is correct. I've read it and you don't need to do anything ever
>food
Jesus will multiply it for everyone to have plenty
>drinks
Jesus will turn that water to wine
>healthcare
Jesus will cure you and bring you back to life if he's late

So yeah, read New Testament, locate your arse and proceed to sit on it
>Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
>Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin;
see, nothing to worry about

>>19934148
tldr i have to care about 50 iq retards so they dont starve to death?

>>19933888
>>19933888
this is the right answer, privileged people can't grasp that meritocracy is an illusion, I consider myself pretty smart, good $$ job @ software engineering, but mostly because I didn't have an abusive family, no bullying since I was a white average kid, no money problems, having people who taught critical thinking, no war in my country, etc etc etc, every single thing affects your ability to view the world in a different way and not having empathy for those who didn't have the same chances as me I think it means they are just as dumb but they got the tools to make money, logical, mathematical, problem solving intelligence is one thing, but emotional intelligence should also be learnt and not everybody who has $$$ has it

>>19934148

>Statistically, this means we have ~50 million people in the USA who have an IQ <85. They cannot be trained in even the most basic tasks, are barely able to function on their own, contribute nothing to society, yet take up space and consume. This is even worse in overpopulated countries- Think a population the size of the USA in India / China of literal potatoes who just consume. In most eras these people died before they were adults, now they're simply societal dead weight.

And now you know why a minimum wage was one of the most powerful moves by the Communists to establish their power base. With ONE simple rule they succeeded in making low IQ people who did menial jobs completely unaffordable for any sensible person.

>oh, your labor is worth less than the minimum wage?
>then you can't work

Personally I don't see the problem with having loads of people who do simple things like sweeping a street or tending to the local gardens by watering them or a MILLION other small things that don't really add much value to a business directly. ANYTHING even slightly productive is better than what they are doing today, which is blindly consuming media and destroying their environments out of boredom.

>>19934148

Yup. Life isn't precious at all. We keep growing a ton of it, and the moral fags are the literal cat women of the planet, keeping every fucking mongrel breeding because "Cats is magical!"

China figured this out a while back, but instead of culling their numbers just turned them into robots like a sociopath, now the robots want higher wages and soon China will have its own fucking problems.

As for us, if we want to keep our standard of living, we have to stop adopting every 3-legged 1-eyed cat and start putting a few down, liberals will have us living in Cat Piss World if we dont.

>>19936079

Oh yeah, let's have large groups of people with no futures and no planning skills starve and roam the streets. That'll turn out just fine I'm sure. I mean look at nations like India.

>>19936587
No argument will work for those who lack empathy

>>19936543
i had an abusive alcoholic father when i was little. he drank at least 3 times a week but so what? i didnt become a beta suicidal bitch who complains about his dad being abusive for the rest of his life. it didnt stop me from becoming SE with a decent salary and i have my own apartment now. whenever i see those whiners i just wanna punch them in the face. life is intrinsically unfair so suck it up and move forward.

>>19936672

Even from a pure practical, mechanical standpoint it makes no sense to ignore the poor. Even if you just see them as a threat. The solution is simple. Abolish the minimum wage, then you don't NEED all this automation to replace people in perfectly serviceable jobs. Mass automation is done for one reason only, it saves on labor costs.

>>19936819

It's good that you got through, but imagine if you were dumb on top of all that. How many days of starvation do you think you can take before you start taking stupid actions?

>>19936819
It did made you stupid enough to make an anecdotal evidence

>>19936889
born dumb? then nothing helps. give them money and they will go back to their state after few months. look at those lotto winning dumb fucks. waste of money desu. if only thing they can think of is crimd then just let them do it so we can put them in the cage.

>>19936982
i dont mind being hated by poor supporters. you do you. ill instead use my money to chill with my close ones and enjoy my life.

>>19931400
>Learn to program is such a dumb meme because most people will never be able to physically do it effectively.
More and more, I'm beginning to realize how lucky I was to randomly select this on a whim. I thought it was easy, but if you're correct, then it turns out that I have an aptitude for it.

I don't have a problem with poor people. I take issue with those who choose to become drugged up degenerates, gang members, criminals, etc.. You know, the kind that ruin a neighborhood and turn it into "the ghetto."

>>19931351
>>"wahhh, we HAVE to have janitors/fast food workers/[insert any low-wage position]
we have to have janitors/fast food workers/any low wage position

>>19936551
>Personally I don't see the problem with having loads of people who do simple things like sweeping a street or tending to the local gardens by watering them or a MILLION other small things

When I was in Russia I noticed they had a ton of people sweeping streets, collecting money at pay toilets. Almost every store/restaurant/museum had a coat check with someone working there.

Imagine how much it would cost to just pay someone to sweep streets in the US, it would probably have to be a government job with a solid pension and union that would ensure half the workers dont even work but get paid anyway

>>19933577
>oh no! not the heckin corperinos! they might have to use robots instead of cheap laborino!
Work smart, not hard, the fact that can't means they shouldn't. Fuck them and their dysgenic breeding of morlocks.

>>19936254
pftthahaha I've lived on my own since I was 17, one parent is dead the other lives 1000 miles away.

what a low-IQ reply....

>>19933626
>it isn't gangster to transcend your upbringing
Nothing of value was lost.

>>19936543
applying for FAFSA and getting out of bed for school IS NOT HARD

your extremely low standards for others is what is helping create a generation of entitled retards

>>19936587
we give them low paying shit-tier jobs. thats the solution. now tell me why I should give a fuck theyre too dumb to go to college and make a better life for themselves?

>>19934283

Dubdubtrips in fact

LOL @ all the salty NEETs seething ITT

stay poor you dumbass po'dunk self-loathing "woe-is-me" beta cuckolds

>>19931351
Fact. The reason people are poor is because of immigration, if all immigration ceased in the united states we would have been better off without a useless cattle of people and instead be more balanced out

That being said, It's too late now. Too many FUCKING SPICS

>>19936982
All you did was provide anecdotal evidence as well. You think being an ally to the poor will save you when they come for your house, your pension and your children? It appears your concern has outgrown your influence and so you rationalize with empty virtue signalling and supposed empathy which is just thinly disguised guilt. You fucking baizuo disgust me.

One day reality will bite you, and you will wail as a newborn being ripped from the womb as you realize you aren't some floating point of conscious but instead are a ambulatory protein lemming whose time has come. You will see with both eyes.

if your idea of poor is limited to fast food worker tier income that's proof that you've been tricked. reality is that even cs grads starting at low six figures are just average when you look at the grand scheme of wealth. the fact that there are white collar wagecucks and tradies making like 40-80k after 5+ years experience who defend the system and act like they're not getting fucked as well is peak cope.

>>19937464
I must ask, why is college the societal guard between those of the lower caste vs the Higher?

Shouldn't humans be measured by their aptitude and not by what they can memorize?

Some of the most retarded useless people are those who have achieved the highest in Academia

>>19937550
PEAK commie-tier millennial post

even @ $40,000 a year you are in the top 1% of the world

>"wahhhh I want to be in the top 0.001%!!! but dont want to have the skills that deserve such pay!!!"

pftthahahahahaha entitled little faggot

>>19937603
cope poorfag

>>19937670
Low-IQ as fuck, I'm not the one defending poverty stricken leaches

>>19937550
This. I make roughly 42k as a warehouse hourly manager. After bills, I only have $900 a month to save/invest. Idk how the people I manage can make it on $16 an hour.

>>19937701
$16/hr is enough to buy a house in 40/50 states... learn to live within your means

>>19934354
Is it the fault of the Trump children that they are extremely rich and set up for life? Did they earn all that wealth and privilege? Or was it pure fucking luck?

>>19937695
what do you do, how old are you, how much money do you make. I make $180k code monkeying at 25.

>>19937761
awww, is applying for financial aid and studying too hard for you without mommy and daddy to hold your hand throughout the process :(

poor baby

>>19937788
I make $400,000 as a hedge fund manager @ 27 years old

>>19937223

IQ measures general intelligence. If you have a higher IQ you can adapt to almost anything. You just happen to like abstract thinking and problem solving on top of that. You would probably have done well in a number of fields like growing plants or anything that requires a lot of problem solving really.

>>19937464

You shouldn't. All I'm saying is that we shouldn't make life worse for them unnecessarily through retarded control policies like the minimum wage. Without these mechanisms that encourage selection for intelligence and the ability to work, we will dumb down as a species.

>>19937761

Your parents duty is to provide for you the best they can. Trump earned that money for his family, that was the whole point. If I wouldn't be able to leave wealth for my kids I'd just sit around on welfare doing whatever I liked. Work is stressful and I don't enjoy it one bit.

>wages have been declining for decades
>middle class slowly disappearing
>nothing is wrong and this is normal just ignore it

>>19937759
>bro just buy a foreclosed shack in the middle of niggerville

>>19938147
>$16/hr
>not already living amongst nigs

>>19938066
>it's all the jews fault I am a khv NEET
Fix yourself.

>>19938198
serio

>>19937838

Lmao nice larp kid

>>19931366
There’s nothing about being a “human” that requires giving a shit about the poors.

That’s how humanism dehumanizes people. It sets this arbitrary morality (in this case giving a shit about the poors), and redefines the definition of human to require that morality. And if somebody doesn’t have that morality, they’re not human.

A Tiger not giving a shit about other tigers doesn’t mean he’s not a tiger.

>>19938530
>1 post by this ID
you scrolled past 73 other posts and landed on this one to reply to

kek, speaks volumes about your insecurities. who money mogged you?

Individualism was a mistake

>>19937574
if you graduate college with a 4 year degree, you proved that you were able to wake up day after day and get your ass to class and not just "show up" but also learn and apply yourself

THAT is why college is important. fuck what field your degree is in, it is a test of will and responsibility.

I know people who make 6 figs a year with a degree in psychology who work in business and tech.

>>19931351
Just because you dont care doesnt mean I wont.
We honestly dont need you to care, it's no pressure.

>>19939313

Protip for your next larp: hedge fund managers don’t make 400k/ year. I’ll let you guess if it’s higher or lower.

>>19931351
You don't have to. Most people don't. If you do, generally people think of you as a good person so theres that, but if you're in it purely as a question of "what do i get out of this?" then caring for poor people gets you pretty much nothing.

What's it like to be a sociopath though?

>>19939874
cool blog entry, how do I unsubscribe?

you didn't answer the question, tard. you literally just used this thread to anonymously virtue signal. kek. absolutely mental.... it's like second nature to you.

>>19939937
in my opinion he did answer
your question
>why should i care about poor people?
anon's answer
>you dont have too, no one cares if you do or dont, this thread has no effect on his opinion on whether poor people should be cared for.

>>19939923
>If you do, generally people think of you as a good person
lmao and there it is.

"look at me, I care about people! give me affirmation!"

absolutely ABYSMAL

>>19940032
are you mad at me or at society?
no point being pissed at things you cant change friend

>>19940013
this is some next level retardation

post body. I want to see how weak and effeminate you are

>>19940061
you ever start posting in a thread and then realize the person who hosted is just a fag and trying to fuck you?

>>19940079
>no pic
just as I thought. weak and effeminate.

how does it feel to be a little bitch 24 hours a day?

>>19940115
well i tried talking to you like a person, guess ill just leave you to your furious homo fantasies this board sucks anyways

>>19940124
kek later pussy dont let the door hit you on your fat ass

>>19931351
>Just World hypothesis

>>19940173
>"woe-is-me, the UNIVERSE is what is keeping me from being successful!"

>>19940203
Who are you quoting?

>>19940213
up your meds betabux

>>19940162
Last word, earlier you compared yourself to a tiger. You're no tiger lol, more like an angry chimpanzee. I can tell you're a pajeet because you can't stop throwing shit left and right, bet you're sitting in a street in Dubai right now shitting out last nights curry. Who gave this third world ape a computer? Maybe take all that rage against the poor and get an education dumbfuck.

>>19940231
You're even making less sense now

damn dude, who the fuck even thinks/worries about poor people
let alone, makes and follows through with a whole post about them

new money, inflated ego beta, much?

>>19940173
>WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH MUMMY HELP ME TH-THE WORLD ISN’T F-F-FAIR!!!!!!
And? Are you six? No shit the world isn’t just - successful people acknowledge that, get off their ass, and work to become successful. Lazy NEET leeches and the rest of the poor mobs are worthless not because of their circumstances, but because they use said circumstance to be a worthless piece of shit instead of doing something with their life