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>> No.19904097

fucking coomers

>> No.19904102

Where my rockstar gang @?
First sip of the morning!
My tummy hurts.

>> No.19904103

ahhh this is the life

>> No.19904105

very lewd op image

>> No.19904108

>>19904102
post tummy

>> No.19904112
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19904112

While every bull is busy cooming to anime booties the markets will fall with no buyers

>> No.19904117

>>19904080
Bitches ain't shit

>> No.19904120
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19904120

>literally lost all gains made from airline stocks

>> No.19904122

Can any germanbros tell me what the new news is with wirecard. Every new headline that comes out about them makes it even more of a clown fiesta

>> No.19904128

Trading 212 has added KTOV and WKHS recently, is it too late to hop on the bandwagon?

>> No.19904136

>>19904102
I just picked up 2 monsters, 2 donuts, a coffee and some slim jim squeelin hot pork rinds :)

>> No.19904150

>>19904122
Precision german engineering, literal paper company that most likely never even made profits. It doesn't even exist

>> No.19904151

>>19904120
I'm about to go in on one. Are you holding until it rebounds?

>>19904136
Are you mega fat or twig skinny?
:3

>> No.19904165
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>>19904080
Classic OP image, very nice touch.

I wish I could sleep. I also wish I hadn’t lost so much money, especially since February.

>> No.19904171

>>19904150
Actually not only no profits, but also not even any real fucking income. Just shuffling borrowed made up money around

>> No.19904173

Why didn’t she text me back, bros?

>> No.19904176

>>19904165
Broke youself already

>> No.19904184

I was a bear for the past two months. I went all cash. I waited and waited. I FUDed this thread, talked about the fundamentals, the future problems, the companies which only exist on paper, the years of depression we will see.

Yesterday I bought in. I'm so sorry everyone. Now that I'm invested, this market is going STRAIGHT down.

>> No.19904189

>>19904151
I'm an athlete

>> No.19904194

>>19904151
Yes, I don't see the point in selling now

>> No.19904201

>>19904189
That doesn’t answer the question

>> No.19904216
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>>19904112
>busy cooming
There's worse ways to go out.

>> No.19904219

>>19904176
Why are you such a spiteful, shitty little cunt?

>> No.19904222

>>19904128
Been thinking the same. I don't think it's worth going in if you think it's pnd, but as long hold maybe if you believe in (one of) them.

>> No.19904223

>>19904201
the answer is yes

>> No.19904224

Don't know about the red day and all the other bearish shit, but have feeling that CCL, NCLH are oversold and wouldn't be suprised if they start pumping out of their triangles

>> No.19904232
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>>19904080
KILL YOURSELF

THERE IS NO WORSE WAY TO START OFF YOUR DAY THAN WITH SEXUAL FILTH.

ORGASM IN MORNING = LOW ENERGY AND BAD DAY AHEAD.

KILL. YOUR. SELF.
>>19904097
THIS.

>> No.19904233

>>19904219
The sooner you brainless, worthless spam bots fuck off the better.

>> No.19904245

>>19904173
she was texting a man who bought "The Right Stocks"

>>19904232
just don't coom bro
I haven't

>> No.19904248

>>19904120
Well what kind of trader are you or do you wanna be? If you're long hodl then... long hodl, buy more on the lows. If you're a swing trader you should brush up on your TA to get better exits as airlines on the whole lost momentum several days ago.

>> No.19904253

can we have a new thread that isn't so angry

>> No.19904272

>>19904233
>>>19904219 (You) #
>The sooner you brainless, worthless spam bots fuck off the better

You contribute nothing but hateful screeds. I have yet to see YOU post any DD, explanations, suggestions, or market analysis.

I’m baffled as to why you’re here.
Consider spending your time elsewhere, maybe people like on discord or /lgbt/.

>> No.19904273

How far down should I start buying SPY calls broskis

>> No.19904283
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>>19904253
this is happy thread for positive people

>> No.19904285
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19904285

>> No.19904289

>>19904273
275

>> No.19904293

> Fell for the KTOV meme and bought at 0.76 two days ago
> Sold yesterday at 1.16 only to see it crash at end to 0.79

Wew thanks guys ! Also bought WKHS and already 20% up. Investing is easy LOL

>> No.19904301

>>19904272
>You contribute nothing
I usually contribute a lot but I'm getting tired of spoon feeding you brianless cumbrains with valueable information. If a thread already starts like this I have nothing but contempt for you.

>> No.19904306
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>>19904122
DID SOMEONE SAY CLOWN FESTIVAL???!!

>> No.19904309

>>19904173
are you sure you texted the right number?
have you paid your bill?

>> No.19904310
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19904310

>tfw I bought 3k in spy puts right before the downtrend started yesterday
bear gang

>> No.19904311

>>19904248
At the height I was thinking that if it went up just a little bit (KLM to 6.5) I would sell with a very decent profit.
However it has only dropped since then. I'm not selling now, I assume it will recover somewhat.

>> No.19904331
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19904331

It's reasonable to buy a bubble, just know when to sell.

>> No.19904386

>>19904310
a lot can happen in 2 hours

>> No.19904387

Investing is so easy take out a loan and go all in on something and if it fails declare bankruptcy and rinse and repeat, lol get fucked buffet

>> No.19904390

>>19904331
everybody should buy into the bubble, that's what makes them big.

>> No.19904393

>>19904184
Permabear here as well. This shit is going down but that doesn't mean we can get some conservative profits. I mainly focus on penny stocks now and long term holds still down. Companies with solid earnings and solid business that can not easily be replaced. The hidden gems are there, even when I think we will go down another 50% by the end of the year.

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19904401

oh great - it's another one of those up 1% one day, down 2% the next for my bags this week

>> No.19904420

SHIP is back up

>> No.19904426

>>19904283
cute

>> No.19904429

>>19904120
I got rid of the last of my airline bags this week during that low volume pump yesterday. Flying was fucked for years after 9/11 and I don't want to risk bagholding for that long with this.

>> No.19904442

>>19904301
I work nights so my sleep schedule is fucked up, but when these neets come online at 5:30, they turn this board into absolute shit.

>> No.19904443
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19904443

WHY THE FUCK DID I FALL FOR THE TANKER MEME

>> No.19904447

>>19904189
day trading isn't a sport

>> No.19904450

>ATH in Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Adobe, Microsoft, NVIDIA yester
Guys! We gotta buy more! ATH is a buy signal :^)

>> No.19904454

>>19904386
yeah like spy drilling even harder at open

>> No.19904479
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>> No.19904482
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19904482

>futures

>> No.19904505
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19904505

Hedge Fund FOMO

No new updates on HF nets. Anecdotally it seems like HFs got aggressive in adding equity risk over the past few days. Two observations from the trading desks:

1. HF buyers of mega cap tech. AAPL, MSFT, AMZN, FB, NVDA, ADBE, NFLX, PYPL…all hit all-time highs yday (8 of the top 9 companies in the NDX…GOOG/L was the only one missing)...

2. HFs recently flocking to consumer growth names....

No real (or interim) top without some FOMO buying..

We're closing in.

>> No.19904513

I haven't bought anything all week. I get uoset everytime I look at my WS app and see the settled cash I have just sitting useless.
What is a good long term hold right now? I need to buy something with all this cash. I hate cash! I want returns! I want growth! I want divvies! I want tendies and milkies!
Give me stocks!

TSX listings only please. Thank you friends.

>> No.19904525

I’m gonna buy some PGM today

>> No.19904529

>>19904513
Nasdaq mega cap obviously, they literally can't go down

>> No.19904541

so what happened to futures/premarket? was there any bad news overnight or is this just FUD bullshit

>> No.19904560

>>19904387
>loan
>bankruptcy
>repeat?
Sorry tbhfam you lost good goy points and cannot get easy loan again thanks for playing.

>> No.19904570
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19904570

its so tiresome bros

>> No.19904572

>>19904541
Regular market wavyness. No specific news today.

>> No.19904581

Looks like another day of gains for gold and gold stocks. Silver not doing so well though.

>> No.19904586

>>19904293
Think about it from the other side. Someone bought at 1.16 and then it fell to 0.79. That can and will be you at some point.

>> No.19904591
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19904591

Beijing locked down again due to virus outbreak
People getting wielded into their homes.

DOW going straight down to 10,000 on the next wave. You have been warned.

FED money printer got used up on first wave and no more bailout money available for airliners etc.

>> No.19904596

>>19904529
Can I get a CAD ETF that mimics NASDAQ?
I want to buy USA but can't until I move to a real broker. Not going to swallow 3% of a cock just to get into US markets.

>> No.19904602

>>19904591
The money printer can not be “used up”. By definition.

>> No.19904608

>>19904586
But it wasn't me so I made money.

>> No.19904609

>>19904513

BMO, MFC, pipelines, riocan, smartcentres

>> No.19904614

WKHS pumping premarket

every stock shilled here works out, damn

how did i buyed premarket? arent the spreads huge?

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19904621

>>19904602
Let’s see about that

>> No.19904624

>>19904608
Just saying don't get cocky. It's as easy to gain a lot of money as it is to lose it all.

>> No.19904630

>>19904596
Swallow the 3% and all in FNCMX. You won't miss it.

>> No.19904631

>>19904609
I am watching RioCan and Smart. Can't pull the trigger until I understand how the corona effect will shake them. REITs are spooky

>> No.19904634

>>19904596
HXQ HQU

>> No.19904637

>>19904097
fpbp

>> No.19904638

>>19904505
>hedge fund managers complain in 2018 that nothing is left to buy because everything seems overpriced
>now eager to buy these same companies above feb 2020 levels despite hits to sales and profits

>> No.19904640

Where are all the bear memes? Are Bobos asleep?

>> No.19904645

>>19904602
but it could run out of ink or paper... then they try to buy more ink and paper but their money doesn't have any value.

>> No.19904658

>>19904596
Yeah. Horizons does 1x and 2x varieties. HQU for the 2x. I forget the 1x. There's probably better option for 1x nasdaq than horizons anyway.

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19904659

tfw coffee time bros

>> No.19904671

>>19904624
Don't worry, they will be gone in 2021 after they lose all of their money, also won't touch real estate/stocks with a 10 foot pole.

>> No.19904672

>>19904645
It's all being done electronically. No actual cash.

>> No.19904677

>>19904634
>>19904658
Also XQQ

>> No.19904683

>>19904645
Good thing they make money by shuffling around zeroes and ones on a computer nowadays.

>> No.19904687
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19904687

>>19904659
tfw I got iced tea

>> No.19904688

>>19904640
I think they all capitulated. This can’t be good

>> No.19904690

>>19904630
Looks nice. Maybe.
>>19904634
HXQ looks super comfy. Not going to touch HQU tho. I long hold.

>> No.19904692

>>19904640
bobo is kill

>> No.19904694

Should I buy WKHS now when it opens? It seems like its already peaked

>> No.19904695

>>19904645
They can do better now.
>monetize boomer deaths into debt they then buy
VOILA
Boomer back from the dead

>> No.19904699

>>19904672
BUT THEN WHY IS IT CALLED A PRINTER?!?!

>> No.19904701

>Only just now got my 1200 Trump bux
What do I buy? Looking at RDSB. I already have WKHS and SHLL so don’t shill me those

>> No.19904702

>>19904671
People talk about hiding in real estate to secure equity in the event of collapse, but, frankly if the dollar were to crash, good luck enforcing your property rights

>> No.19904710
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19904710

Want to stop bagholding? Want to make some fucking realized gains for once?

Set a stop loss and take your profits. Learn to take 5%s and 10%s. Really can't stand you niggas who baghold shit like NCLH and airlines back to -1% after being up 10%.

>> No.19904712

>>19904640
We are in hibernation for now, you will see.

>> No.19904713

>PLUG rocketing again

Sigh

>> No.19904720

>>19904694
Peaks happen over at least a few candles. Safe to buy in on the pull back.

>> No.19904728

>>19904712
Get back to work. I pay good money for those memes.

>> No.19904729

>>19904699
Because tardos can't comprehend the immaterial

>> No.19904741

>>19904677
Blackrock is nice.
I hae a shit ton of XIC for my full Canada exposure. Such a low MER. Feels so good.
If I want a low MER is it XQQ or HXQ for me?

>> No.19904751

>>19904694
Unironically, KTOV. It is showing paradoxical reaction to the direct issuance of new shares and is already above the usual ceiling of the DO price indicating something big is going to happen. Current premarket is 93 cents/share, DO was set at 90. The buyers were not disclosed yet. High likelyhood of a major stake by big Pharma

>> No.19904752

>>19904710
What if I'm up 77% on NCLH and still holding the bag?

>> No.19904757

>>19904720
You think probably best to buy at 9:35 after the initial sell order at 9:30?

>> No.19904758

>>19904702
Vast farmland would be better than real estate, but commodities(specifically gold/silver) would be the best store of value for most. The FED will not allow the dollar to collapse and is already tightening a bit, they don't want another inflation crisis.

>> No.19904759

>>19904659
Rockstar is this weeks morning sip. We return to coffee next week. Try to keep up, anon

>> No.19904771

Any ZOM bies still around?

>> No.19904774

>>19904710
Stop losses can use up day trades. I’m not getting PTD’d

>> No.19904777

>>19904232
You telling me Elon Musk doesn't ever bust a nut?

>> No.19904787

>>19904759
>rockstar
Redbull here anon, stuff is expensive but does the job, also coffee is shit.

>> No.19904794

>>19904771
Virgin ZOMbies vs Chad XOMbies

OILERS STAND TALL

>> No.19904804

>>19904774
You can contact the brokerage and ask them to remove the PDT, under the claim that you do not intend to be a daytrader. Use this wisely, only when you truly need to save your ass from losing everything.

>> No.19904810

>>19904777
Hyper sexuality makes human beings unproductive.

>> No.19904813

>>19904757
If you think it will drop on open, yeah.
>>19904758
The dollar won't collapse unless our diplomatic and militarial strength collapses. Which it won't.

Anyway, the financial cabal are the ones who own everyone and they don't like collapse either.

>> No.19904815

How high will SHIP go before dump?

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>>19904774
Imagine trying to daytrade with less than 25k..

>>19904752
You sell it and play something else since you've gotten most of the gains you can get from NCLH..
If you're at $1770 from $1000 on NCLH, would you rather wait for it to go to $3540 (basically +254% from your initial starting point, unrealistic) or would you rather take the profit and go into something else for +100% which would still put you at $3540? Just hypothetically, but don't expect any easier gains on your NCLH position, better to play something else with the capital.

>> No.19904821

this is officially a bear market

>> No.19904829

>>19904787
Fine chiice. Get you average cost down tho. I can do a rockstar for under a $1 sometimes.
Coffee is budget king, only buy the energy drink princes on sale.
Don't spend your $$$ on sugar water like the zombie plebs.

>> No.19904831

>>19904702
>owning property without owning firearms
good luck enforcing your property rights now.

>> No.19904837

>>19904815
probably during the earnings call AH tomorrow

>> No.19904839

>>19904624
I know. I lost a lot too.

>> No.19904840

>>19904774
1 month in and already cucked until September. R8 my start in the market

>> No.19904843

>>19904813
But just to be safe we ought to hold more foreign currency. Thank the Fed for whatever happens to the USD.

>> No.19904850

>>19904541
Welcome to the eternal crab market

>> No.19904852

>>19904810
It's an investment. If you bust your nut a bunch and have 20 kids assuming half are male and 80% make it to adulthood, you get 8 people worth of productivity in 25 years unless of course they're black.

>> No.19904855

>>19904804
kek, ask the broker to violate law

>> No.19904863

>>19904774
use a cash account then retard

>> No.19904865

>>19904701
Buy a firearm

>> No.19904867

>>19904751
> Paradoxical reaction
Lmao wut? Yeah it's really bullish that they are selling shares to other at .90, I should definitely pay more than that.

>> No.19904879

>>19904443
HAHA IT WILL BE ALRIGHT FREN DONT WORRY THEY WILL RECOVER

>> No.19904881

>>19904831
I'm armed. This is Indiana. kek
>>19904843
Real material assets are the only thing that matters with SHTF. Even gold and silver worth(less) compared to steel, iron, and lead in a true apocalypse

>> No.19904883

>>19904855
Kek imagine thinking there's a single law that you can't work around

>> No.19904885

>>19904813
And if it does? What an incredible way to introduce centralized FedCoin. China is doing it. Controlled collapse would make sense.

>> No.19904889

>>19904867
... every stock you buy was once sold at cheaper than what you are paying

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19904895

It's dumping on the Israeli exchange.

>> No.19904900

>>19904881
hey fellow indiana /biz/ bro

>> No.19904901

>>19904640
Just a bobo riding the penny stock train

>> No.19904904

>>19904852
That sounds very Hispanic. Not being racist.

>> No.19904905

Anyone holding AMRS? Some anon memed me into it but so far I'm -15% down

>> No.19904906

>>19904817
You've convinced me, I'm going to take the profit.

>> No.19904908

tfw my gf has a body like that

im gonna cooooom

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>>19904889
>Hes not buying at all time lows

>> No.19904910

>>19904889
Yes and you keep buying higher hoping it continues ad nauseam. Look what happened when AAL just had an offering like 2 fricken days ago, was that also a paradox, or were people just unwilling to pay more than what AAL is selling on the side?

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19904919

>>19904895
>ktov

So excited to watch another day of you retards being punished for falling for indian scams. This is why you fucking morons are poor.

>> No.19904931

>>19904895

Israeli market is only now reacting to yesterday drop in US you moron.

Look at US premarket

>> No.19904939

>>19904883
Brokerages won't remove PDT limitations on your account just because you ask. You have to have $25k to play. It's the law. Get a cash account instead.
>>19904885
Dollars are FedCoins. We are like the bully on the block who stole your lunch money. How are you gonna get it back? "Enough for the economics lesson, China. Give me your lunch money, kek."

>> No.19904947

>>19904931
>smart money in Israel dumping
>sum dumb goy money pumping
Really makes me think.

>> No.19904949

Holding unwanted stock? Too scared to make a play through Friday? Why not sell covered calls or sell covered puts for 6/26? If you're not going to make a play by Friday, you might as well take safe premiums on FDs that will never print that retards will pay $0.05/share for! Good night.

>> No.19904954

>>19904905
Well you better hold on to it now can only go up right?
Hold it forever time in hands big time Big boys siki siki freaky freaky she could she could boo boo in the world

>> No.19904956

Kill yourself

>> No.19904957

>>19904900
Based and hoosier pilled.

>> No.19904961

>>19904910
i don't think i understand what your position is
are you suggesting companies should never offer shares ever
if they had not been in the middle of a PnD, .90/share would have actually been aggressive, wouldn't it?

>> No.19904965

>>19904905
Buy more

>>19904949
I have over a hundred stocks, but I don't have 100 shares of any of them ;^)

>> No.19904969

>>19904947

Ok babe

>> No.19904979

>>19904919
>he didnt make 200% on this

Its not your fault tgat you were born retarded but bein proud of it is a choice.

>> No.19904986

>>19904939
You're legit retarded, first off, this myth of day trading with a cash-only account needs to die. Second, this misconception that 25k and boom you're good is just that, a misconception. Having 25k allows you to daytrade 2% of your accounts balance. Also, yes you can call your broker and have them make an exemption, to think no exceptions ever exist shows you're retarded or 12.

>> No.19904996

>>19904986
wat

>> No.19904998

>>19904956
Is this a bot? Keep seeing one of these exactly in every thread.

>> No.19905016

>>19904939
>Brokerages won't remove PDT limitations on your account just because you ask. You have to have $25k to play. It's the law. Get a cash account instead.

Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about lol. Today was the second time I've asked Ameritrade to remove my PDT flag and they've accepted.

>> No.19905026

>>19904986
Wow, I'm not even sure how're you're this retarded. Please educate yourself. Everything you just said is incorrect.

>> No.19905037

>>19904961
You shouldn't raise additional shares unless you need the cash, no, because it's dilutive to the share price. Why would more shares at a 30%+ discount(at the time it announced) be at all bullish? This won't be going very far in either direction for sometime as a result.

>> No.19905045

What is a good long term hold that isn’t energy related?

>> No.19905048

>>19904165
>I wish I could sleep
stop cooming

>> No.19905053

Is it too late to buy WKHS?

>> No.19905055

>>19904998
Im pretty sure its this guy that always tells baggie to kill himself. Been going on for years now.

>> No.19905059

>Goldman Sachs downgrades NIO from buy to neutral
Here comes the dip

>> No.19905067

>>19905045
Perhaps ZVO? Online education related, which may be a big deal soon enough. Don't think that just because we officially open means that everything just goes back to normal like precovid.

>> No.19905072

>>19905026
> Says everything I said was wrong
>>19905016
> Agrees with half of my post
No yeah you can totally just daytrade the entire 25k, because it would make a whole lot of sense to make you save up that much and then allow you to risk it all instantly. Check FINRA rules buddy.

>> No.19905085

>>19905053
You can have my bags. Whether it would be a favour or not remains to be seen, I'm taking my profit.

>> No.19905086

>>19905053
No, it's been crabbing in the premarket, but generally going up. Retail hasn't come into play yet. Buy right at open and then sell at a good time on Thursday if that's your deal.

>> No.19905093

>>19905037
do you think they made the decision that morning?

>> No.19905102

Lol these stupid day trading rules.

I live in the EU and i exclusively day trade US stocks.

>> No.19905104

PDT rule only applies if you trade on margin

i swear its only ever trolls & broker shills trying to confuse newbies into making them put all their savings into their accounts

>> No.19905111

>>19905072
You're replying to two different people mate.

Yes, PDT regulation exists and if you get flagged you can get punished for it blah blah blah.

But, you can ask your brokerage to remove the flag at your request, under the claim that you do not intend to be a daytrader. Both are truths that can exist simultaneously.

>> No.19905115
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19905115

bulls=bulls
profits=wife
bears=cucks

>> No.19905121

>>19905072
As long as you maintain 25k in EQUITY, which includes cash, stocks, bonds, you're good. So yeah, you can.

>> No.19905126

>>19905104
that isn't true
when i first started out i was 100% cash and still got that PDT counter shit happening

>> No.19905136

Fate just gave me a buy signal!
Opened a second rockstar because I shared the first one with my wife. The second one burst forth with overflow. The can was SO FULL! That's it. Overflowing can, overflowing stock market. More then I paid for. This is fate trying to speak to me.
Buy. It's going to be a green day.
Good luck to us all!

>> No.19905140

>>19905111
Except that you can't be calling in every day trade and claim "oh it wasn't a day trade, I'm not a day trader" But the original claim by the guy was that you can call in and have PDT not apply at all on a margin acct under 25k which is patently false.

>> No.19905144

>>19905126
I was reading on this very subject recently. Seems to be mixed messages regarding it. Some people experienced what you said. Others can freely daytrade with a cash-only account. Perhaps it depends on the brokerage?

>> No.19905149

>>19905104
yes but if you trade options in robinhood for example your account goes from cash to instant, which is subject to PDT limits

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19905150

Can someone explain to me how the NASDAQ can be so stable at ATH?

Also markets are going to be blood red today, some whale just dumped all their futures so hard even gold and silver dropped like some predictive micro-March

>> No.19905153

>>19904232
I'll be sure to stop plowing my wife for fun after reading that abstinence pamphlet from the 30s. I wouldn't want to my precious semen to end up in some filthy woman when it could be recycled into "oil for the joints". Thank you, based anti-coomer!

>> No.19905162

>>19905144
i'm on RH

>> No.19905164

WHAT DO I BUY AT MARKET OPEN???

WORKHORSE OR KTOV????

FUCKING SAVE NEEDS TO GO UP SO I CAN GET THE FUCK OUT

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19905166

Im not in the US and new in stocks
Im buying stocks thats still around 45%-55% before the March sharp crash a good buy to hold out for half a year or two?

>> No.19905169

>>19905140
Are you talking about my initial post? I was specifically saying as an emergency, it's better in some cases to just trigger the PDT flag and get out of bad positions and then requesting the brokerage to remove the flag afterward. I say to use it wisely, because it's not like they're going to do this forever for you.

>> No.19905174

>>19905144
When I was new in 2013 and used Etrade, I was locked out using cash, so I switched to margin to avoid having my money frozen. I don’t day trade or anything like that anymore because it’s retarded, but that’s what remembered, though I use TD now.

>> No.19905176

>>19905162
did you trade options? check your account type and see if you have instant deposits enabled. instant accounts are distinct from cash accounts

>> No.19905183

> AI, Semiconductors, and cloud computing all at or near All Time Highs

We're going to get a pull back in technology one of these days right?

>> No.19905184

>>19905136
>ID is Rockstar Gold®
oh shit

>> No.19905190

KTOV Current shekel conversion is .95

TO THE MOON

>> No.19905192

the market will crash if they don't announce another economic stimulus check and extension of the $600

>> No.19905195

>>19905183
Yes, buy SQQQ calls

>> No.19905199

>>19905150
Because it is undervalued.

>> No.19905203

>>19905183
If by pullback you mean 1999 dotcom stuff then yes

>> No.19905205

>>19905176
happened before i discovered the wide world of options
yes instant deposits were enabled but not being used. this was with settled deposits

>> No.19905219

>>19905192
They better extend that $600. I'm really enjoying day drinking and shitposting.

>> No.19905220

Anyone catching CTIB? Getting called out in a discord I'm on.

>> No.19905228
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>>19905192
Let it burn.

>> No.19905233

>>19905086
>Crabbing
It's up 6.5%

>> No.19905238

>>19905183

Call me crazy but I think it's going to keep growing until tech gets hit by the Antitrustening of a lifetime probably within the next 5-10 years.

Especially facebook

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>>19905144
>>19905026
There is no misconception, you people are just too lazy to read the actual rules. There is no day trading with a cash account, ever allowed, whether you have 25K or 250k, if you don't have margin you will be flagged.

>> No.19905240

>>19905228
that isn't a very practical uniform

>> No.19905242

>>19905162
RH has always been weird in how it handles cash accounts. You may not remember this, but not long ago it basically treated margin as cash against which you could further leverage, basically infinite leverage.

>> No.19905244

>>19905164
Buy KTOV if you are investing less than $200, and if more then 25% in KTOV and 75% in WKHS

>> No.19905246

>>19905205
I will ask Ameritrade some time when it's convenient about daytrading with a cash account. I've been debating whether to keep using a margin account or switch to cash only for daytrading. But honestly, even with a cash account, you have to be extra careful about shit like Good Faith Violations and what not. If you're going to be that careful, you can be just as careful with using margins and timing your 3 daytrades per 5 trading days. The benefits of margins is pretty damn good. But I also read that you don't fully own stocks bought on margin. That's another thing to consider, but probably not important if you're constantly closing positions.

>> No.19905251

>>19905183
For that to happen there would have to be a sector that seems like it isn't some dying old boomer with lung cancer

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>>19905219
ikr? American Emanicpation 2.0

>> No.19905267

>>19905166
You can still invest in US stock?

>> No.19905271

>>19905184
Oh shit.
I am drinking BURNER flavour tho. Silver star, blue can.
Gold and silver a buy?
Fate can be strange...

>> No.19905272

>>19905239
Did you read what you posted? As long as you don't violate the freeriding rule, you can daytrade with your cash account. I've searched on this as well and many sources say and some have confirmed that they can daytrade with a cash account. But in any case, there are a lot of mixed messages so I don't know.

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19905276

>>19905164
The horse works for you anon.

>> No.19905286

>>19905276
But the jews never lose anon!

>> No.19905289

>>19905219

Same here. They just called me to come back to work yesterday and I said no. Gonna try to stay on the dole via the pandemic unemployment assistance loopholes. wish me luck senpai. either way I'm not going back

>> No.19905294

>>19905102
So how is it legal for outsiders to daytrade? Is the daytrading (((ban))) to protect degenerate gamblers or the monopoly of you know who?

>> No.19905296

>>19905190
Got my percentage stop today. Not falling for jewish trickery again. I fucked myself yesterday by buying more and giving up my ability to sell

>> No.19905297

>>19905239
Probably should read the rules closer, son. You can't day trade with unsettled funds.

>> No.19905298

>>19905239
nowhere in the finra rules does it state that you can only day trade with 2% of your account balance. it does say that your day trades are limited to 4x the amount over the required threshold that you have in your account (maintenance margin excess), but I don’t know where you got 2% from

>> No.19905299

SPXS or SQQQ?

>> No.19905311

>>19905246
Work on your overnight strategies to get more trades in that don't violate PDT. You won't be as stressed out either on making a trade count.

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>>19904080

NOOOO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO UP, I WENT ALL IN 2 DAYS AGO

>> No.19905321

>>19905286
Then get on their side, Jews love the environment.

>> No.19905327

>>19905286
/biz/ - Mastering the Art of JewFu

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>>19905289
>and I said no.
Say goodbye to that government cheddar.

>> No.19905332

>>19905272
> Day trading in a cash account is generally prohibited
> Cites 1 specific case where it's allowable based on another rule set
> Anon couldn't even be bothered to ever look up FINRA rules
> But has already read up and has a full understanding of the rule cited as an exclusion
These are the people giving you financial advice.

>> No.19905340

>>19905321
I thought that was the Nazi's?

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>>19905328

You can still continue to get it if you have a valid excuse.

>> No.19905347

>>19904219
Shut up faggot

>> No.19905352

>>19905332
>muh FINRA
So you're telling me all the testimonials of people daytrading with their cash accounts are lying niggers? Or that brokerages are cheating and letting people get away with things that shouldn't be allowed?

>> No.19905362

>>19905332
>Cites 1 specific case where it's allowable
You can't trade with unsettled funds. How is that a "special specific case"? Filled with fucking retards. I asked my broker to remove Margin privileges from my account, converting it to Cash Only and I've traded as many times as I've wanted without issue since then. I don't know what other proof you require.

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19905367

Be real with me guys. I went all in on TQQQ yesterday and this morning. Are the markets ending green?

>> No.19905374

>>19904283
Kill yourself

>> No.19905376

>>19904080
I need this source image

>> No.19905384

>zoom is up PM at 253
*honk honk*

>> No.19905385

If I set up an LLC for investing can I just pay myself out with a dividend to cover my living expenses? Isn't this way more profitable than investing with a personal account if you set up the company in some country with no corporate tax?

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>>19905340
I wouldn’t know, I wasn’t alive back then.

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>>19905240
Why have practical when you can have sexy? Have you ever heard roboco’s voice? It’s pure boner fuel.

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WDI has financially ruined me.

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>>19905367
Won't be green for the rest of your lifetime kid, which won't be long when you see what comes next

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>>19905343
Ok, seems like you know what you're doing. Good luck with your cheddar. We neetlife now.

>> No.19905407

>>19905376
Now that I think about, I tend to wear through my underwear a lot. They all end up looking like op's pic in five or six months. I really do like cotton but damn it does not last.

>> No.19905408

>>19905385
Congrats, you are a one man hedge fund.
The problem is going to be the bank and legal expenses to set this all up unless you actually just move to that other country in the first place.

>> No.19905411

I am unironically going to hold SHIP until $10

>> No.19905414

>>19905388
If you bought post missing billions you kind of deserve it.

>> No.19905420

>down to 3k profit
Every day it falls by few hundreds, can't we have a decent pump already
I bet it'll fall until I chicken out and sell, and then pump until I go full FOMO

>> No.19905422

>>19905362
> Day Trading with cash accounts is generally prohibited
Definitely means
> Day trading with cash accounts using settled funds? Fuck yeah bro, have a good time!
>>19905352
Hmm let's see, we have the people that make the rules, from their website where they list the fine print behind the rules, or we have niggers online larping, and incompetent brokers, you decide who you want to believe.

>> No.19905437

>>19905384
I'm not expecting Zoom to die until social distancing guidelines are lifted.

>> No.19905440

>>19905385
LLCs aren't a corporate tax structure and there's no way you're going to evade US federal taxes and capital gains if you're buying and selling US assets.
You would also need 2mil plus in your account to live off the dividends.

>> No.19905451

>>19905385
You'll pay corp tax and personal tax, effectively double taxing your income. Better to keep it all in the LLC and have it pay out as "expenses" for things like phone, internet, apt, etc that you passively enjoy and offset your profits. Additionally, it can help protect you in case of divorce later.

>> No.19905461

>>19905343
Is there anything for people that have returned to work, or is it just
>suckit, cagies.

>> No.19905464

>>19905239
Thats complete bullshit.....
My Webull cash account with less than 25K allows unlimited day trades as long as I'm using settled funds

>> No.19905479

>>19905422
If the broker allows you to daytrade with a cash account under certain conditions, then it's on the broker, not me.

I don't care what FINRA says. If the brokerages allow it, clearly it's fine.

>> No.19905497

>>19905461
Yeah, a pay cut with longer hours and more responsibility.

>> No.19905499

wish they'd give me that 25k raise for being essential

>> No.19905505

What's the new meme today? I'm up on WKHS but I don't want to buy any more of that.

>> No.19905510

Suggest some good long term holds

>> No.19905525

>>19905510
SPG, BA

>> No.19905529

>>19905464
Oh that changes everything, Webull is definitely the authority on the matter, it definitely couldn't be that a broker would dare fail to live up to their requirements whether out of incompetence or malfeasance, that's definitely impossible, FINRA just got their own rules wrong.

>> No.19905532

Kill yourself

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19905536

>>19905510
WDI

>> No.19905547

>>19905525
Yes buy malls and a shitty plane company.

>> No.19905558

>>19905510
Unironically TSLA and AMZN. Probably XOM too

>> No.19905559

>>19904614
WKHS is real as fuck. Pence is going to swing his cock around tomorrow at the vehicle unveil. Bringing jobs to Ohio is critical for the election.
Government contract is all but assured.

>> No.19905561

>>19905497
I'm barely making more than max unemployment+PUA in my state. I continue to get all the deductions, and since we're not operating with all personnel at the time business has picked up, it's turned to a shitshow on my end.
Instead we get infinite niggers.

>> No.19905562

>>19905479
This is the valid view, I'm simply pointing out the actual regulations. The worst part is, it was only a few years ago that the requirement was 2K, not 25K, so we wouldn't even be having this discussion we'd be laughing at people to poor to do it. RH has failed to mark me on 2 day trades in the last week or 2 alone, they still caught 2 others I did.

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>>19905499
I'll think about it now get back to work wagie, stocks won't go up by themselves.
Wait... actually they will. Nevermind no longer thinking about it, you faggots might as well do it for free.

>> No.19905565

>>19905510
TSX: GFL
They also list on... NYSE maybe? I donno. But don't buy the other GFL. You want the green trash one not the chems

>> No.19905568

>>19905547
>a shitty plane company
that's... not a particularly comprehensive or insightful review...

>> No.19905569

>>19905408
I was looking at some agencies the other day and it seems like setting up an LLC in countries like Singapore and HK is around $10-$15k. I imagine it would be less for one of those island nations with no corporate tax.
>>19905440
I'm not American. I meant paying myself a dividend from my company as opposed to paying myself a salary.
>>19905451
Corporate tax would be 0 and I would be paying a dividend tax, not income tax, which is usually much lower.

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>>19904895

Fucking retard kek

>> No.19905584

>>19905510
AAPL has done right by me so far

>> No.19905587

I'm thinking about getting on the work horse, what would be a good price to buy in at at this point?

>> No.19905591

>>19905422
Day trading is typically opening and closing positions many times a day. In a cash account this leads to unsettled funds, essentially the profits are noted but haven't been paid yet. Generally prohibited because they don't GFVs from HFTs. Nonetheless, if the cash is settled in the account, you can trade with it, no problem.

If the brokerages weren't following the rules, they wouldn't be allowed to operate by the SEC and FINRA.

>> No.19905595

>>19905587
>I'm thinking about getting on the work horse
>he didn't get in when it was $4

>> No.19905600

>>19905510

XOM ; RDSB ; JNJ ; Some ETFS

>> No.19905605

>I actually made $50 on the SHIP meme
Serious moves have been losing me money while Meme stocks you niggers suggest actually make me money.
Thanks bro’s.

>> No.19905606

>>19905577
I'm so tired of this "9:0x when RH flows in" meme. It never has any significant impact at all.

>> No.19905610

>>19905595
I had at 5.25 but I sold to get some ship

>> No.19905615

>>19905610
ngmi

>> No.19905620

>>19905562
It's a bullshit rule. I don't see how it protects anyone to force them to baghold overnight instead of selling whenever the fuck they want, whether to secure profits or to cut their loss.

>> No.19905625

>>19905595
>immediately buying in to anything /biz/ says
I should've bought in two days ago when it was 5.45, but I was too anxious at the time

>> No.19905628

>>19905587
I got in at 7.23, late as fuck, but there are a lot of catalysts that haven't happened yet. I think you are good at these levels. It's not going to dump with >>19905559 happening, IMO.

>> No.19905634

>>19905606
Yes of course, because institutions are clearly buying bankrupt stocks like hertz.

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Time for bed, good luck out there lads.

>> No.19905639

>>19905510
RDSb, RTX, NET

>> No.19905649

>>19905625
It's not a pump and dump pennystock when the Vice President is going to speak at your factory. As soon as I was able to confirm Pence was going to do that I went in. Their FMVSS approval yesterday made me quick gains as well and I didn't even factor that in.

>> No.19905656

Get your gold shorts, the schiff is getting ready to put this stuff on sale again.

>> No.19905657

>>19905569
https://finance.zacks.com/capital-gains-offsets-llc-operating-losses-7938.html
>The LLC pays taxes on capital gains at the corporate rate. Profits are paid out in dividends, and the LLC members will pay taxes on the dividends at their individual tax rates.

>> No.19905664

>>19905569
Well I don't know what the tax code in your country is but in the USA distributions get taxed as regular income. You're better off talking to whatever the equivalent of a CPA is in your country and probably a lawyer as well.

>> No.19905666

>>19905606
Some anon was posting webbull's app data for some stocks, and it separated the size of orders. KTOV's small amount orders were less than a quarter of medium and large.

>> No.19905669

>>19905591
The problem being the 3 day clearing rule. So, I guess yes technically with settled funds you can buy a stock, and then later sell it the same day, however you would not be able to buy it again that day without earning a day trade flag.

>> No.19905673

>>19905510
spot

>> No.19905676

>>19905657
An LLC for trading would only make sense if you were making hundreds of thousands in trading with consistency.

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>>19904080
alright for any fag that bought CATM. today we test the nuts on a red day. I expect us to go up, insider bought 2 mill yesterday. If you got in at 23 you're winning

>> No.19905680 [DELETED] 

>>19905529
>Oh that changes everything, Webull is definitely the authority on the matter, it definitely couldn't be that a broker would dare fail to live up to their requirements whether out of incompetence or malfeasance, that's definitely impossible, FINRA just got their own rules wrong.
Read CFR-2018-title12-vol3 before you open your big fucking mouth again

>> No.19905695

>>19905634
My point isn't that RH users don't effect the market, it's that they don't instantly effect the market at 9:02am.

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HTZ is going up today

>> No.19905703

>>19905620
Agreed, but there's other exchanges, or you can utilize overnight and swing strategies that work in your favor.

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MDLY to 1.45 EOW

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>>19904080
Puts for july or august?

>> No.19905714

>>19905673
also ftch

>> No.19905715

>>19905600
>Oil Companies with downstream
>long term

Oil is dying. H2 and electric will be the future.

>> No.19905717

>>19905695
isn't the market mainly affected by perceptions, and wouldn't perceptions of what RH users will do be added on to the things they actually do?

>> No.19905728

Got $4k that I'm tired of hodling. What's the play?

>> No.19905729

>>19905656
>just broke 8yr high
>short it
sure sure

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>>19905699
I still don't understand htz, and am not satisfied with
>clown world.
They're broke. They're selling nearly all their assets. They're selling further stock.
Our company even bought a few of their pickups for penises on the dollar.

>> No.19905743

New Bread

>>19905733
>>19905733

New Thread

>>19905733
>>19905733

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>>19904443
my best bud bought 4 tankers around april 20th. when he did I even told him wtf did you buy NAT for? chart was awful. He's still holding and copes with the "i intended to hold for months" meme. yeah fucking right. you just don't want to sell at a loss and confirm your goof.

I took a fat loss yesterday bc I know I can make the money back up. sorry paw.

>> No.19905747

>>19905676
I'm replying to the poster's misguided ideas on corporate tax regulations.

Additionally, you're wrong too. LLCs enable you to deduct things you normally wouldn't be able to as legitimate business expenses, saving you money.

>> No.19905750

>>19905728
give it to me and i will give you 5% of whatever i do with it

>> No.19905754

>>19905715
Yeah that future is at least 100 years away

>> No.19905758

>>19905728
WKHS

>>19905715
Agreed, too bad there aren't any H2 ETFs

>> No.19905770

>>19905733
>>19905733
>>19905733
>>19905733

New Thead, make sure to filter WKHS and KTOV scammers

>> No.19905799

>>19904906
you should

>> No.19905801

>>19905739
Penises on the dollar. That’s not a lot of penises

>> No.19905810

>>19905591
My broker let’s me daytrade with unsettled funds as long as I don’t close the position for a loss. I did it for months and then accidentally got my first GFV because I DCAd one position and ended up closing it for a net profit, but some of the stocks were bought at a price higher than I sold them for so it triggered a GFV, but as long as I’m not liquidating stocks for a loss I don’t get GFV

Switching to cash acc has helped the growth of my acc a lot, went from 4k to 2k with a margin acc due to lack of daytrade then went from 2k to 11k in 2 months on a cash acc by being able to take profits whenever, gonna keep at it until I’m over the 25k

>> No.19905817

>>19905559
He is not going to the plant of Warhorse though. But to the plant of a company that is owned by Warhorse for 10% to unveal another pickup truck it seems.

>WASHINGTON, D. C. - Vice President Mike Pence will visit Ohio on Thursday to participate in the reveal of the Lordstown Motors Endurance All-Electric pickup truck and to deliver a speech, the White House announced Monday. Afterwards, Pence will participate in an event with law enforcement and community leaders before returning to Washington, D. C..

Sauce: https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/06/vice-president-mike-pence-to-visit-lordstown-on-thursday.html

I am in as well but this seems a bit of an overstatement or is he also visiting another reveal?

>> No.19905839

>>19905510
CEQP CLB NBLX NVDA

>> No.19905846

>>19905817
https://lordstownmotors.com/pages/about

Can't be arsed to do more research as I am at work and need to finish some goddamn quarterly reports. Hope somebody can find out some more stuff.

>> No.19905860
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19905860

>>19905510
lol also CATM

>> No.19905992

>>19905565
why GFL? do you think we'll have a need for more nuanced waste management?

>> No.19906394

>>19904865
I already have 6. Gotta stock ammo instead