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FWTDHWAHQUD status-- {swing trading}

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If you only had one firearm in a particular caliber, I think 9mm would be the most widely used therefore the smartest choice but like another anon said, you're going to probably die if you're trying to pick up scraps in the street in a SHTF scenario so memes aside, you'd do well to have plenty of ammo

Looks like I got a delivery.

>>19829401
Most police departments use 9mm for their sidearms. It's also the most well rounded and commonly available pistol round. You do have .22lr which a single well placed shot can solve a lot of problems.

Most people have the AR platform which uses 5.56 (or .308 or .300 blackout but those are niche) so ammo can be readily available to loot or trade. And don't forget about shotguns. 12g and 20g are some popular models.

>>19829117
I told myself I wouldn't buy generic rounds anymore but the Asahi rounds at JM are aesthetic as fuck. They're actually more attractive to me than any of the sovereign silver coins are. And they're actually cheaper than most 10oz bars right now.

Should I grab a 20-stack?

>>19829448
What did you get, anon?

>>19829493
I just bought 10 more of those Asahi rounds. They look awesome. My wife said they look like the silver you'd use to pay off a hitman in a cyberpunk dystopia. Buy em bro, they look better in person than they do online.

The packaging says I ordered bearings?

>>19829493
Yes.
I like the Asahi rounds too, I'm gonna buy a tube or four of their American Reserve rounds.

>>19829543
She’s a keeper

>>19829257
holy fuck i have to get that design

>>19829548
kek, yep i got one like that too. guess they're trying to fool would be crims into thinking its just random car parts

I am not sure if Jesus bearings are as bad ass as I think, but we shall see.

>>19829559
I don't like those ones as much as the other ones.

>>19829685
>>19829543
>>19829559
I tempered my emotions a little and just picked up a 10-stack. I've already got a 10oz Asahi bar so now I can pose them together.

They're not as economical as bars or as pragmatic as coins but these and monarch chunkies are now my favorite silver to stack.

>>19829632
they lost a ton of street cred when they cancelled the shit out of orders during the March dip

>>19829685
Really? I like 'em both, but if I had to pick just one, I' definitely pick the American Reserve round.
That's ok though, they're both really nice designs. Different strokes for different folks.

>>19829588
AUSTRIA Österreich 10 Euro 2007 Stift Melk
Austrian Mint, featuring Melk Abbey. Pick one up if you can, anon, getting harder to find.
There's a few on ebay ranging fron $25-$300, depending on BU, proof, COA etc

Be careful, buy from sellers with a lot of good feedback, and post pics!

>>19829632
Hey, I just got an order from SD today too. Mostly just some empty tubes and cases, but also got a couple each of ASEs, Maples, and my first couple Brittanias.

21 bucks a coin and 140 for the junk, i think i came out on top if I was to sell them, but I won't.
five 2020 britannias, garbage
five 2009 philharmonics
39 washington silver quarters, and one walking liberty quarter

2009 philharmonics have to have some premium because of the age? they are all bu.

There was some good discussion on inflation a few threads back and I have a question for the anons educated on the matter. Does buying a house and financing as much as possible right now make sense? Hypothetically since assets rise in “price” during inflation, the house should maintain its value while the value of the debt decreases, right? Making it really easy to pay off? Or would houses simply drop in value for some supply/demand reason? It’s hard to make heads or tails since the fed is manipulating so many markets.

Also, general stacker question, is it better to stack gold eagles or Buffalo? I’ve heard overseas markets like pure gold better.

>>19829787
>they're both really nice designs
I agree actually. There really isn't much that beats those two designs.

>>19829953
I second this.. currently looking at buying a house.

Got my 1/4ozt commem quarter today, took a fuzzy just to post - will take a better pic later.

>>19830049

>>19829953
Hypothetically hyper-inflation means paying off debts is trival, but you still lose purchasing power.

Buying real estate right now is a lonnnggggg play at the moment, as it'll crash like almost everything else as the situation unfolds.

>>19829117
tik tok

>>19829769
Right on, post pics with 'em together when you get the new ones

>>19829915
Nice haul anon

>>19830049
>>19830060
That is one good looking coin!

These ain't mine, reposting anon's from the other day

Can someone post a pic of their buffalos? IM TRYING TO COOM

>>19829117
How will gold bugs ever recover?

FUCK

If you had to pick one gold and/or silver mining stock/etf to buy in order to make it, in addition to PM's, what would it be and why?

>>19829769

i would buy the asahi coins if they had serial numbers like the bars

>>19830071
So if you finance a house 95%, and paying off debt is trivial, you get a free house essentially. I think this is an oversimplification. I don’t know if we will hit hyper inflation levels, but expect high inflation. Of course, another consideration is that leverage usually dries up in down swings.

When the gold and silver prices start updating tomorrow do you think it will continue to go up or drop a bit? With the amount of silver I want to buy, if the price goes down like 20 cents that means I can get like 6 extra ounces for the same price

Yes I am being a jew

>>19830071
But define “crash”. I’m getting it for a very solid deal in my area. Will the house one spends 200k on today be worth 35k in 5 years?

>>19830569

>>19830290
who wants ugly numbers on their pm's? I like the bars that have the space for it but it's left blank.

>>19830569
>>19830580

>>19830569
>>19830580
whoa i love the Barber design

>>19830647
> barber

anon...

>>19830569
>>19830580
That is a beautiful coin

>>19830693
Thanks you, it's my first tiddy coin

>>19830666
forgive me oh Satan
how i have failed thee

I meant Standing Liberty of course.
pledge negligence to thee for evermore
so mote it be

>>19829302
based and Christpilled

I love junk silver and silver stacking but as a coin collector there's just some coins I'll never get rid of

>>19830644
Walking liberty in gold looks real kino. Nice buy fren.

>>19830091
They'll collect lead first I would assume

>>19830307
Understand that a house will be all you have. Your incomes value will decrease substantially in comparison to what it can purchase now.
>>19830558
I'm not psychic, I don't know where you live, whether it's city or countyside, but all one needs to do is look at the Buffet index if in doubt of a harsh crash in the future.

>>19831122
Who's that on the right? Eisenhower?

>>19830644
Very nice coin fren, what did it run you?

>>19831336
It's a Proof Eisenhower, I believe it's 40% silver but I'm never selling it so I don't care either way

>>19831373
I usually don't like faces on coins but it looks very aesthetic, very smug/10

>>19831411
Eisenhower was one of the few good presidents we've had recently

>>19831336
~$600

>>19831265
he post that in every thread despite what the US did is minuscule compared to an actual seizure.

>>19831203
movie?

>>19829915
Why is the Britt garbage?

>>19831621

because the queen is on every coin

>>19831435
Nice, I like the walking liberty half dollar one too. Not sure how I feel about the mercury dime restrike.

Who here is going the play the silver/gold ratio in the near future? Anyone see another jump in the difference soon?

I have 1 oz gold I am thinking of converting to silver and then sit on it.

>>19831529
Nah it's from r/analog

>>19831747
Both the Walking Liberty half and the Merc dime are on my list. I have a pair of .900 silver merc dimes even before the housewife meme, but now I need that gold dime. Even discounting the meme, all three of these restrikes are /GORGEOUS/ in my opinion.

>>19831816
>Who here is going the play the silver/gold ratio
Yes and no. If something happens I'll be stoked but I'm mostly stacking for my grandkids.

>>19831435
If it's only a 1/4 oz, that's like $2400 for an oz, despite the nice design what's the advantage of overpaying almost 700 over spot?

>>19831467
I know, don't know his endgame though, if he's fudding just to get people riled up, there's better fud that he can use. If he actually believes the US will employ something like that again in an event of economic catastrophic, he's very wrong. either way very gay/10

>>19831883
Same in the end. I got 3oz of gold before really looking at the ratio. Now I think I should move a little bit of my value from gold to silver and stack silver from there.

>>19831883
Based generational wealth consigner
>mfw grandpa turned 100 this year and has dementia
>mfw he's healthy as a horse despite his brain being shot to fuck and his wife dead for a decade
>mfw he shat himself in the middle of the church during a moment of prayer, said "I think I've pooped myself" out loud, and had to be hauled out to be cleaned up by my parents
>mfw he's got a shitload of money and a bunch of property in hawaii but he's not going to die for another 5 years or something and his retirement home is expensive as fuck so god only knows when or if I'll ever see a dime of it
Feelsbadman.jpg

>>19831999
That's a shame, I'm sorry anon.

I noticed a few years back that the successful people you see are, largely, successful /FAMILIES/. It has to start somewhere and it needs to be handled meticulously nepotistic. Only blood-kin, and even then only the most trustworthy of them should inherit the stack.

My brother liked the idea so much he started contributing to the stack as well.

Pic semi-related. It's an older pic sir but it checks out.

>>19831976
I'm a C-hair shy of a full ounce of 24k gold. With 14k and 18k jewelry I'm probably close to an ounce and quarter of pure gold after refining.

>>19830030
>>19829953
If you can safely afford it now, I wouldn't necessarily wait for a downswing. Just be emotionally prepared for the possibility of being underwater for a couple years.

>>19832147
That's gorgeous. How much silver do you have, if you don't mind me asking?

>>19832230
A little over 300ozt now.

>>19831698
shame that. same probs with aussie coins and leafs too. fuck that
i dont mind historical figures like generals or presidents, depending on who it is but if anything i prefer allegorical figures such as lady Liberty and such.

>>19832269
doin fine Yukon. your ahead of me now but hopes when my next shipment arrives ill be at 300 too.

>>19832269
Man I don't care what anyone says those generic buffalos are just as good as any government coin to me

>>19829685
>>19829543
>>19829493
Fuck i might have to pick up a roll of cyberrounds.

>>19832189
good shit, keep pushing!

I'm in a damn a good place honestly. 3ozG and 120ozS. I'm glad I'm in a position to consider shifting around assets. If shit is going to hell then I want to be in the best position possible. If not I want to hand down shiny shit to my children.

So what say you anon? Should I swap 1oz of gold fro silver soon or just keep ridin with Midas?

>>19831999
You go hug your poopy grandpa.

>>19832367
hot the anon your talki g to, but id say keep what Gold you have, just put fure pm purchases towards Silver. you can stack alot of silver quick for $1k/mo investment

Casual reminder to filter all tripfags.

>>19832225
This doesn’t answer the question. If you think homes will be underwater then explain why. I’m specifically asking about the effects of inflation on homes vs debt to finance the purchase.

>>19832367
Don't trade your gold for silver as you're fucking yourself with the premiums and the loss of value if you sell so I think keep the gold but only stack silver until the ratio is around 30-40

>>19832504
People's incomes are getting fucked, that much is certain.

What is uncertain is what the fed response will be. Dropping interest rates and helicopter money have been enough to keep the real estate market propped up so far. If corona mortgage payment extensions keep getting tacked on, there will not be a major RE dip. OTOH they can always pull the rug at any moment.

>>19832488
the only thing that needs filtered here is cryptotard vapourcoin shills

>>19830049
GOLB TIDDIES !!!!!:DD

>>19829410
>>19829425
I thought this coin was pretty so I'm about to buy it. $260 USD shipped from Australia to USA. apparently only 500 were minted.

someone convince me this is dumb to spend that kind of money on this coin

>>19830091

>>19832665

you would have to be a complete fucking idiot to buy that con instead of 10+ coins of the same weight for the same price.

>>19832504
>>19830558
>>19829953

Houses are still in a massive bubble. Just as great a bubble as they were in 2008, if not more so. On average, they are 8x earnings. The current prices only subsist because of the availability of easy credit. If you want to know why you should buy gold instead of a house right now, watch this video; bearing in mind that, at present, gold is still historically vastly undervalued. (It would need to be $5000 in today's money to reach its nominal peak of $1900.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-knwwD-PZc

If you buy a house now, one of two things is going to happen:

1) If and when the U. S. government defaults on its debt, and interest-rates spike, both house prices and stocks will collapse by up to 90% in nominal terms. This is unlikely.

2) If and when the U. S. highly inflates the currency, which will happen before 2021, in order to prevent a stock market crash, house prices will soar in nominal terms. But, against the price of gold, which people will flock to as a safe haven, they will crash. A person who buys gold now will be able to buy three times as many houses in future as he can right now. Inevitably, by about 2024, the U. S. will reach hyperinflation, which will lead to a default, and then house prices will crash by 90% anyway.

>>19832665
its dumb to spend that kind of money on this coin
just buy gold and silver for the lowest premiums you can find. 2 weeks from now you will be glad you didnt waste money on that thing. it ont become some rare thing everybody wants. its dumb and ugly and nobodies gonna par collector prices for it

just like that stupid hype around the "Emergency Mint ASE" they're charging insane prices for it. tis fuckin ASE nothing special nobody fuckin cares.
you don't just ""create" numismatic desirably like that, they become special or desirable and collectible on their own because of natural reasons

>>19832367
>>19832399
This.

>>19832707
calm down Skeeter, $260 is not a lot of money.

I'm curious if someone knows if this coin is garbage or a scam. I can not find a single video review on it

>>19829257
Now that is very cool.

>>19832744
the scam is in the price you dumb nigger

>>19832744

please kys

>>19832755
>>19832781
>poorfags freaking the fuck out about $260
hahahahhaha priceless

>>19832755
>>19832781
kek bought it literally JUST to dab on you poorfags

stay mad about a measly $260 you ghetto ass plebians

>>19832853

holy shit, what a fucking retard. the coin won't even make it to you hahahhahahaha

>>19832788
>>19832853
>retard garbage design
>two (2) Ounces of Silver
>For $260+ dollars
retards buy this garbage

>>19832925
>>19832971
no, retards buy <$10,000 in silver and expect to make ANY sort of decent money off re-sale

post stacks

>>19832987
no

>>19832987
> flipping silver

you get dumber by the post

>>19832987
Retards buy 260$ 2oz coin and expect to make profit*

>>19833048
lmao

>>19833002
thats what I thought
>>19833026
>no pic
>>19833048
>implying

kek, SEETHE poorfags

>>19833086
you forgot your stack pic

retard stack reporting in

retard stack reporting in pt 2

>>19833086
>if you don't throw money away you're poor
>didn't post stack
It's fine to use your money how you want but you're dumb if you think this coin is a smart use of money
>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded

buy the fucking coin and report back with pics dumbass

>>19833230

he doesn't even have a stack

>>19833192
What are the wavy bars in the bottom left? very nice looking

>>19833086


stack is locked in the vault atm. im not fuckin dragging it out rn

>>19833095
>implying I """invest""" in """meme metals""""

>>19833282
>calling your safe a vault
lmao @ this level of LARP

>>19833282
> being so poor you have to larp on /pmg/

haha

>>19833301
>>19833283
hey can you like, fuck off back to a shitcoin thread or something? your complexes would be better hosted there, shitting on poos.

So much negativity on PMG recently, what's up w that? I figured we were all working towards a common goal unlike 99% of everyone else

>>19833365
increased reddit spacing amount, not enough stackposting, newfag noise etc

>>19833365
Stages of grief at the coming paradigm.

>>19833365
This, was comfy a couple of weeks ago.
>>19833383
Even Pan Man doesn't post as much anymore, too many opinions and too little stacks, probably just too much of rehashing of the same points. It'll pick up again once the prices rise

>>19833365
>>19833444
its mostly other biz anons hating us for not being all doom and gloom. can you blame them to much those. they went all in on some crypto that'll most likely never moon. and then they see us with actual assets to hold and enjoy...
the rage must be large

>>19833465
Monday i'm getting another tube, and i'll update my chest

>

>>19833356
>"hey convince me not to buy this coin"
>"DURRRR WASTE OF MONEY DERRRRRR"

kek, enjoy your cancerous """general"""" poor fags

started off as light banter
then the poo flinging started.
i dont take any of it seriously frens, neither shoud you.

just need to get back to stack posting

Peace Dollar is one of my favourite designs

>>19833550
i like those Sunshine bars. i need to order some

you fuckers made me do it, i bought my first ounce because of you.

anybody else stacking Peace Dollars?

mine are mostly VG to VF, supposedly

>>19833487
>>19833561
This, I saw way more stack posting during the beggining of quarantine but it seems like alot of people who aren't even interested in PMs are coming on here just to troll, im kind of a stacklet but I've just been stacking cash for a while even before the covid shit, big purchase pics cooming soon now that prices are slowly dropping (before the m**ning, of course ;^) )

>>19833608
ya did good

>>19833559
>hey buy this shitcoin americans
>DURR FOMO MOON DERRRRR

>>19833608
never seen that before, but that's pretty cool anon, hopefully the premium wasn't to bad

>>19833623
yeah i been on a stacing spree since March. now im trying to take it easy and stack cash for a bit.

>>19833620
im starting to, constitutional is going to be big in my stack

>>19833623
you can tell the poo's have gone back to the internet cafes in India lol

>>19832719
>>19832719
Thanks anon. I wanted to double check my understanding. Of course it’s already been proven that the fed will do anything to kick the can down the road. I plan to stack gold, but if I can leverage a house with very minimal cash down payment, then it could be beneficial. inflation seems imminent and your scenario 2 is what I expect. I don’t believe the us will default on debt if they hyperinflate though, they should just be able to pay it in inflated dollars.

The other scenario could be that they will crash the market, increase interest rates, and rebuild. But, they could also be a military aspect that would be hard to predict too. Renting of course will have its own issues as rent increases a lot every year due to inflation. A locked in payment seems better, just the risk of the fed doing some bullshit Is annoying.

>>19833650
got it for spot at the lcs.

>>19833681
whoa, nice deal fren

>>19833691
yeah, they just reopened after quarantine and they were having a big reopening sale.

>>19833608
Now that is a cool bar. You did good anon.

>>19833192
How much gold and silver do you have and where can I get those star wars bars on the bottom left?

>>19833536
Good to hear, I like that stack fren, going to get some more silver from my craps winnings soon, just need to head to my lcs but I'm lazy lol. Thinking of getting a roll of ASEs for 22.5 or a half pound ASE for 22.5 and a bunch of generics for 20 each, what should I get?
>>19833608
nice bar, got into stacking because of /pmg/ and I look forward to getting more silver every time I get a chance.

My filters are catching 68 threads right now, and they're only set for shitcoins, the keywords they use, and 'WTF was That'. I got hid 48 manually jsut going through and getting all the new shitcoins, and the threads where they refuse to post the name of the coin to avoid getting filtered (which is filter avoidance and should earn a ban)

116 of the threads on /biz/ right now are shitcoin related. Who the fuck are they even trying to scam at this point? PMG unironically has more disposable income than all of those threads combined. Pic related was last week.

>>19833765
whoa, so surreal...

>>19833536
war chest inspection time

>>19833751
ummm anon, ASE's are king, but its all about the premium and how much people will buy them for
so that big one will have a higher premium and lower premium when you sell. the smaller ones are easier to offload and can expect higher demand...

where is pan man, I want to show him my old lead and "gold" collection lol

>>19833772
hold it right there! thats my meme!

>>19833778
ahhh shit, i'm not willing to open up the sealed tubes. but I have been super tempted to say fuck it and poor them out in the chest lol

>>19833706
I wish
>>19833659
I'm about to start my stacking spree in about a week from now, looking to get atleast $40 junk silver and about 50 oz of coins and bars by the end of the summer

>>19833809

what kind of junk?

>>19833782
probably somewhere in the boonies without internet access
ive been doing nothing but lurking here all day, waiting for my silver. Up to 2 weeks ffs

>>19833674

I just listened to an interview which Alasdair Macleod, the chief economist for GoldMoney, did today, and he actually addresses your question.

Timestamp 42:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9xeSOdr9Uc

He speaks about a character called Hugo Stinnes, known as "the inflation king," who did exactly what you suggest with respect to leverage, in order to buy up a quarter of the industry in Germany. But of course, that was when hyperinflation was already taking hold. It might be dangerous to play the inflation game when you don't know the exact date when at least high inflation is going to come. I project early 2021, but I might be wrong.

Macleod also says that, historically, gold has always vastly outperformed real estate during times of hyperinflation. In Weimar Germany, there was a time where you could buy a mansion for a really small quantity of gold.

>>19833809
good timing to start stacking, with premiums starting to come down.

>>19833778
Are you not scared they will all scratch or tarnish?

>>19833824
right, if mine show up on Monday like they're supposed to, then it'll have been 10 days from order to delivery(jm bullion) which is actually pretty good for ACH....

>>19833824
Was it a scottsdale order?

>>19833818
I'm American so just Quarters and Dimes, I haven't bought any Junk halves because they carry a premium for no reason IMO, My LCS is charging about 14x face which is alot better then any website offers right now, and they let me pick out coins from there whole supply so that's a bonus, no risk of getting slicks or shit coins

>>19833864

you don't have a preference?

>>19833845
nah. when my stack gets bigger and i maybe get bored with fondling it, ill start to leave new stuff sealed in the mint tubes they come in, or whatever.
for now this is my "play stack", if you like.
its my pile for fondling and pics.
i plan to eventually have monster boxes of ASEs and whatnot, that will stay sealed

>>19833465
>>19833782
It because its the summer and I am working. Its kind of hard to shitpost off satellite internet. I do keep an eye on threads, its just not a lots being posted that I can comment on. Working on a claim above the old Wingdam underground placer mine near Quesnel at the moment, I am staying camped out in Wells for another few weeks while rivers go down up north.

>>19833878
I prefer the Washington's cause they usually have the least silver loss and I just like the design, but I bought a bunch of mercs for FWTDHWATQUD's, I have a couple barbers and SLQs in there too

>>19833925
that sounds like kick ass adventures what your doin
i love being deep up inna mountains exploring remote places. visiting near old mining places be even more interesting

>>19833955
the good thing about buying quarters is that they usually send tons of great looking 1964s with almost no wear

>>19833925
Good to hear, hope you find lots of gold fren

>>19833967
right up until some ghost out of scooby doo tries to scare him off for panning his gold lol

>>19833967
this ones been a huge pain in the ass because I have to constantly sign in at the "office" at Ominica Mining's little camp at Wingdam so I can access the ground I ve been hired to investigate. Its a high channel, and nearly impossible to access unless by foot, but there is gold there and what the client asks I will do. However I will not sugar coat how fucked this claim is. Amazing terrain and the best people on earth, but hard land to trudge through.

*Fails to predict anything*

>>19834002
>i got a ba'aad feelin about this scoob

>>19833955
got any links to good deals for "junk silver" us coinage fren?
ive looked casually but seems like premiums are high on constitutional silver at most places i looked

>>19834127
this comes out to just under 20oz
https://silvergoldbull.com/10-face-value-bag-of-circulation-silver-dimes
not great but good for now prices...

alright, I know this isn't a rock thread, but the fuck is that bottom left rock, is that a barrel? maybe I should stick it with the aqua marine...

Why do people buy anything smaller than an ounce? I bought these and I feel like a retard.

>>19834263
could be anything from a semi smoky quartz or low grade baryl? where did you get them from? Neat looking pieces.

>>19834267
For gold, I understand. If you're getting 1/10th at $200, it's a reasonable premium for the smaller denomination.

>>19834127
I wish I could help you but I buy all my junk silver locally, my LCS has decent junk prices but rounds are way cheaper online, he's charging like $23 for a buffalo rounds so I'm pretty much strictly buying junk from him right now, otherwise I'd never go online even if he was charging like $21.50 a round or something

>>19834263
I think it's a sitreen

>>19834267
I bought some 1/2 oz coins and they're a little odd, but I like em
been tempted to buy the silver set from the US mint with the normal size batboy... but the double the spot price they sell em for is just horrible...

>>19834287
when my brother died, his partner put a bunch of random rocks in bags and mailed them to me, even knowing my brothers biggest complaint was people putting rocks of different hardness together...

>>19833267
>>19833744
ty frens they are beskar pours from reddit (u/shiny_collector). $23/oz when i bought them which is steep but i really like them so i didnt mind. gold: .5oz, plat: 1oz, silver:~95oz.

>>19833955
>FWTDHWATQUD
I'm new, what does this acronym mean?

>>19834315
i'm getting blue green out of it... but yeah I mean quartz of some kind does seem the most likely, he did love aquamarine though, so its my fall back if i'm not sure lol

>>19834370
Formerly well to do house wife and there questionably underage daughter

>>19834370
Formerly well to do housewife and (supposed to be h) her questionably underage daughter

>>19834416
>>19834431
Hahahahaha oh man maybe I should look into picking up some small denom coins (mercs?) for that purpose.

>>19834287
last rock question for awhile, this nice piece of quarts has a blueish bottom, is that a good color to look for gold?

>>19834457
or citrine as one anon pointed out earlier, I should use proper terms if people actually know them lol

>>19834457
I know i ve seen that colored mineral before and its name is on the tip of my tongue but i cant quite remember what it is. Quartz in general is a host for a lot of gold mineralization, as its the substrate that brings gold up from deep underground. In this case I am thinking that no, its not associated with gold in this case. The bluish / green coloration in my hard rock photos comes from minerals like malachite and azurite, copper ores. It also can come a number of other minerals such as fluorite and also some silver ores. Very nice looking samples either way, I am always on the look out for big quartz when I am working.

>>19834294
I totally understand getting gold in smaller increments so they are easier to sell or trade for formerly well to do housewives (and their daughters).
>>19834337
how much did the half ounce coins cost you?

>>19834449
Yeah the pasta specifically mentions mercs iirc

>>19834550
What are your top 5 junior sub $2 miners and maybe 2 or 3 good larger ones?

>>19834585
I got them for a steal roughly 19oz maybe a month ago now.
tried cleaning them with baking soda and foil. and it helped a lil bit.., need to finish cleaning them
>>19834550
that is good info ty sir

Question for /pmg/:

It seems to me generally accepted that gold is inversely correlated with the stock market / financials. Stocks go down, gold goes up, vice versa.

What about a portfolio where you are 50/50 in GLD/SPY, and you rebalance it perodically to maintain 50/50. This would mean you'd automagically be selling GLD when high and buying SPY when low, and selling SPY when high and buying GLD when low.

It doesn't get to the level of holding physical metal for problems like complete societal collapse, but as long as the financial markets continue to 'mostly work' it should function.

Thoughts?

Recieved my jmbullion purchase today , I ordered 235 oz of silver. It was damaged and there is zero silver inside. Waiting for a reply from the fuckers. Still sitting comfy still but still its disappointing.

>>19834690
why would you accept the package if it was damaged?

>>19834658
im not the guy to say one way or another but my gut feeling is that clownworld Stock market not a good guide right now especially for anything like PMs

>>19834690
Should of ordered bearings from SD bearing supply instead

>>19834690
uhhh,.. what the fuck?

>>19834705
I did not sign for it. Dude just handed me it like that. I called the post office after and they confirmed it was damaged in Nevada

>>19834597
My two favorite sub $2 companies are Engineer Gold Mines and Skeena Resources. Next would probably Jaxon Mining, Metallis Resources and Strikepoint Resources. My two favorites heading out of junior are Pretivm and Seabridge. I am really interested to see what Etruscus Resources finds with their latest "The Wall" target too, and what Artemis does with NewGold at Blackwater.

>>19834736
based bearings stacker

>>19834287

Hey Pan Man what kind of education you got? How do I get into the Mining field? I want to do the cool stuff you guys are doing. I saw an interview with Ross Beaty and I want to be just like him lol.

>>19834746
very lucky anon. because that means there should be weight scans taken before and after it was damaged.
you'll be fine, it might take a few days but they'll get you more silver

>>19834585
What pasta? Can you post it?

>>19834769
yes i want to do this

>>19834756
Which ones would be good for end of year gains because of all the money we keep printing? Inflation will hit.

>>19834794
I didnt think about the weight scans. That's great. Some lucky fucker made off good.

>>19834736
It's honestly genius that they do that

>pan man takin a break

>>19834839
honestly i'm impressed he was able to download the photos to see the rocks with his shitty internet lol

>>19834769
I ve spoken about how I got into this feild before in other threads, but basically I ve been doing this since I was a kid, working around family friends who were miners / exploration geos. My family were all fishing / hunting guides so I learned bushcraft from that, I learned prospecting from my father and family friends who had me doing bitch work on small projects like core cutting, general labor all the way through highschool. I went and did 2 years of University to try and get a degree in Geology that way but I found it not to my liking and ended up getting most of my formal education through apprenticing under geologists and prospectors instead. I have done many things in my life, pack guide, prospector for hire, underground miner, diamond driller. I am a Jack of all trades type guy.

>>19834848
i wonder how Pan Man charges his cell phone when hes up inna mountains for weeks?
small portable solar pack?

>>19834822
Let me think about it thats a tough question. We have to see what they find first before we can really judge anything.

>>19834869
I would assume hes got a desiel generator running equipment and what not. so I doubt charging is the issue. its the satellites that he gets to deal with

>>19834869
>>19834848
My internets not really slow, its the data cap I have to worry about. Connection issues are also a problem, if it gets too stormy than my little sat dish doesn't work very well. Cant wait for Starlink. I do also camp a lot in towns, so I can use internet there. I usually just charge my phone off my truck while going to and from places, a backup battery comes in handy though too.

>>19834859
that gold shining back at you. purdy

Please dump gold back to 1720

>>19834859
congrats on the shiny rocks.

Isn't silver undervalued relative to gold? Why not horde that instead of gold?

>>19834658

Stocks and gold won't be inversely correlated for long. That's a short-term phenomenon. The Fed isn't providing enough liquidity to prop the stock market up. It is in the process of crashing because of this. When the Fed is forced to announce YCC and start flooding the system with money again, stocks will go up, but metals and miners will absolutely soar.

>>19834941
yes anon horde the silver...

>>19834805
depends on your skills? are you physically fit, are you willing to spend weeks in the middle of nowhere possibly stuck in a camp with a crew of dumb asses who you hate? Can you read the map the crew geo gave you that morning printed on the shittiest ink jet printer in existence with gps coordinates that dont match? The junior mining world is full of odd ways to enter it too. Also I love that movie so much, so much bs happens in this industry you could do an HBO drama about it.

>>19834859


Thanks for responding. Sounds like a tough but really rewarding road. I've just found myself infatuated with the mining space after I acquired my first precious metals. The weight and the shine of gold and silver in your hands is unlike any feeling.

I'm a tradesman in my day to day, but I'm still relatively young at 24 and have a 2 year general degree that I can go back to complete. I've been thinking real hard about getting a bachelor's in geology then start writing to all the mining companies in Vancouver (I live in BC) for work. I don't mind hard and physical work, I sweat and bleed often enough. I'm also bookish at the same time and don't mind reading and studying or looking at maps. I just want a career in a place that lines up with my interests, so long as I can make a living.

>>19834983
Sounds like a dream to me.

>>19833835
That’s interesting. It is very hard to predict what will happen since the government will do anything they can to prevent the market from being free.

Current thinking is....inflation, home prices go up, then fed intervenes, markets crash, a lot of debt is wiped out in mass bankruptcy, rates rise, home prices stabilize much lower than they are now.

To make this work, you’d have to buy before the crash and quickly pay it off with inflated currency. Later, price of the house would be much lower, but it would be paid off. This is better than buying a house later at a lower price, but much higher rate. I think. Not really completely sure.

Artist's conception of Pan Man browsing /pmg/ from his mountain miner's lair,....
somewhere in the Northern Territories,...

>>19835048
try and get on with one of the juniors, they are the best foot in the door. If you can manage to deal with your coworkers. The drilling companies are also a good way to get started in the industry, but its a lot harder work than being an assistant to a geo or core cutter.
I swear this generation of geos are useless. Last time I went to Roundup two years ago in Vancouver I couldnt hold a conversation with any of the geos at the different company booths, the kids just dont know what their talking about. The university courses right now focus too much on the books and not enough about the actual physical on the ground geology and its really hurting the industries their students end up in.

>>19835167
nah he sent us a pic of his band last summer lol
sorry couldn't resist

>>19835246
I had no idea Pan Man used to play in the Soggy Bottom Boys band.
I hope he's not still a Man of Constant Sorrow

>>19835246
re caption as "PanMan at Arts Wells 2018" and its accurate.

>>19829393
>>19829378
They should've had two dudes fucking in the center

>>19835183

Sounds good, I'll try to get with some of the many juniors here. Any advice on how to get a leg up on all the new generation of geologists? If I get a degree in geology, how can I become better fitted for on the ground work, so I'm not just an ivory tower kind of guy.

>>19835452
you need experience in the field doing actual work that mining geologists do. like most jobs
if you go school route, then it could be student internships to start, then land your first real job when your ready

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>>19832742
Thanks for the pep talk boys.

I had planned to stack 300$ silver (or 10oz, whatever is greater) a month for the time being. Il just appreciates my gold and hoard my silver.

Rock on!

>>19835452
simple, do lots of outdoor stuff. A lot of the more recent grads seem terrified of actually being in the bush away from the rest of the world. Get used to not having internet 24/7. Get fit, get used to bugs. Also firearms training comes in handy. PAL holders get hired more easily because they can be usually trusted with things like bear defense in camp. Last year I worked with a group of guys fresh out of VIU's geology department and they wouldnt shut up about the bugs, about having bugs in their coffee. Another handy ticket to have is first aid level 3, its an in demand ticket that every camp job seems to need now because of helicopter mishaps.

>>19835523
Do it bro. You'll be shocked how quickly it piles up. A little money spent every week leads to financial security and freedom from anxiety.

>>19835535

You're a legend Pan Man. I appreciate your insight.

>>19835564
always happy to help!

>>19835560
>leads to financial security and freedom from anxiety.
also restores the body and cures all ailments

>>19835583
that's only if you EAT the silver.

>>19835598
>he doesn't make his own colloidal silver Amazing Tonic at home with a /diy/ electrolysis machine
NGMI kid

>>19835653
I have actually joked that if the end of the world happened at least I could turn the silver into shavings/dust and use in bandages lol

>>19834089
RUHHHHHROHHHHHH RAGGY!!!!

Will silver go up or down tomorrow when markets open? I want to make a big order but I can get a few more ounces if silver goes down 20 cents for example.

>>19836308
I rolled a 8 ball and it said it’ll go up

>>19836333
well I mean trips and all...
my cock says it'll go sideways though

>>19836308
um, down?

Does monument metals have a minimum order amount for wire payment? I cant find it anywhere on their site. Other sites are 2500 like provident metals.

>>19834308
Have you tried telling him that? If he has half a brain he'll give you a competitive price.

>>19836547
not a clue, sorry anon

>>19836333
Checked and confirmed

Bros what are your thots on fractional gold? Should I get 1/10ths for formerly well to do wives and their daughters? Or save up for 1 oz coins?

>INB4 silber is the fractional
I don't want any more silver

>>19836661
Fractional European gold my man

>>19836661
fractional gold makes sense for people on a budget, but I would not recommend it for silver. If it were me I would save up and buy full ounces but to each their own.

>>19836690
How much silver and gold do you own? What is your favorite gold and silver to stack?

>>19836678
Those are some nice euro coins anon but my country taxes any alloy metal or PM which isn't .999 pure

>thanks turdeau

>>19836707
Bro. Where can I get those beautiful Canadian/Saudi Arabian necklaces??

>>19836707
>a fucking leaf

>>19836696
I have a few hundred ounces of silver at the moment stashed away but I sold most of my gold over the winter to buy equipment to explore my major hard rock claims in the fall. I ve so far mined a few ounces back already but I am hoping to get at least 30 ounces by the end of the summer, I just need to wait for the ground to dry out a bit so I can machine mine.

>>19836741
Based, sounds like a lot of fun. How did you end up getting into all this?

>>19836738
https://justduait.ca/

>>19836678
I'm surprised. I thought 50 pesos would be bigger than 100 corona

>>19836788
He started off at the local mining watering hole sucking off any old timer for tips that he could.

>>19836741
I hope you hit the mother lode fren.

>>19836740
>recovered leaf

>>19836799
It has 20% more gold than the 100 coronas

>>19836788
see above posts
>>19836868
Thanks friend! I think I have it this time but only drilling will tell. I ve been fooled before.

>>19836707
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>>19836899
for us and the souls of the righteous, and the power of Archangel Michael

>>19836799
Look at the shadows, you can see the 100 corona is much thinner

>>19836992
Man I miss seeing the lower prices on those pre Ukrainian civil war, never bought any, I wasn't into geopolitical affairs at that time.

>>19837078
The coins are absolutely gorgeous in person. Early mintages are extremely expensive. $3000+ for gold 1oz and $150+ for silver

looking at getting some 2020 ASEs, going to be interesting to see what the new design is

I'm sad guys, after paying insurance and some dumb impulse buying I need to wait until next month to order any more shiny :(

>>19837191
right, if the new design is better, the old ASE's will fall out of favor fast. unless they put a serial number or tag them some way, then I think the old ASE's would gain a noticeable boost...

>>19837271
that's a good way of putting it, yeah I am thinking it might be a decent investment with the 2020s

>>19829302
Der milker

King Tut's mask contains 321.5 Troy ounces of gold.

>>19837615
That's roughly 78.5 ounces less than a Good Delivery Bar.

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>>19833365
Holy moly, that escalated quickly.
There's all different kinds of stackers. I always liked that different folks in /pmg/ were into different things but we all (generally) get along, brought together by the affinity for shiny rocks.
Some prefer gummint coins.
Some prefer artsy/niche coins.
Some are just trying to stack as much weight as possible for the cheapest price.
Some are mining it directly.
Some are financing the mining.
Most have their own personal balance of two or three of the above.
Myself, I'm on a budget, so I'm balancing most bang for my buck against future desireability/ease of into liquidity if necessary. I'd like tonever sell and leave it to my kids/nieces/nephews etc, but in case of economic duress or SHTF then blah blah blah, we all know the arguments.
At the same time I have love for my numismatic/nichecoin bros. I love some nice art on a coin/bar. If I was rich, I'd definitely buy more beautiful/expensive metal, because A) I'm never selling anyway B) Rare has appeal C) Beauty has appeal and D) I like what I like so fuck off.
Since I'm not rich YET, that would limit my ability to stack effectively on a limited timescale, so I don't at this time.
I called this thread "Favorite Designs Edition" and posted a bunch of coins I like but haven't bought because I can't justify the price until my stack and finances are on another level. I was hoping other PMfrens would do the same, not insult eachother like monkeys for liking different things.

TL;DR
Can't we all just get along?
Stack by weight? Cool.
Stack to time the market/play ratios? Cool.
Stack to withdraw from a corrupt system? Cool.
Stack by country/collection/series? Cool.
Stack for beauty/rarity/personal choice? Cool.

Just POST PICS and/or share info. Thank you.

>>19837615
I wish more of the ancient worlds gold work survived to the modern world, the ancients were masters of gold smithing and its such a shame only a tiny fraction of that work still exists.

>>19837663
fuck forgot photo

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>>19837696
I think a lot of the best relics lie underwater. Buried under silt after floods and rising sea levels. Sea levels were much lower in antiquity than they are today. Hopefully they will find more stuff in our lifetimes.

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>>19837696
I agree.
Also thank you for quality posting, always sharing pics and good info. One of the many reasons I love /pmg/.

>>19837652
You don't get to bitch about a thread while also doing a mass reply

I didn't even read that wall of text

>>19837615
>>19837727
Quality posting
It'll be interesting to see what increasing technology uncovers.
Unless you believe that the elites have been plundering and hoarding ancient gold for awhile now, in which case... man I'd love to check out the vaults.

>>19837696
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>>19837615
for me, it's the cellini salt cellar.

>>19837776
lol
so did you read it or psychically intuit that I was bitching?
Also thats why I added a tl;dr at the bottom.
Also also usually I don't do that but I thought I'd jump in since my post started the shitflinging.
Thank you for posting pics, adding to the quality of the thread.

>>19837727
I do not have the exact number, someone here likely has it, but I believe at least half of the worlds mined gold is unaccounted for, likely lost below the seas from ancient trading or piracy. Hundreds of tonnes from the Spanish conquest never made it to Spain, imagine all the treasure laying in the dark, waiting for someone to hold it once more.
>>19837751
Thank you, I strive to post interesting stuff for you all.
>>19837782 If the rumors are true than at least they are safe hidden in some vault and not melted down for bullion. I know there is a massive trade in stolen artifact gold from Syria and Afghanistan going on. I even read about a group of tourists who were caught plundering Moche tombs in Peru for gold beads and other trinkets. That sickens me, because half the value of that kind of gold is the history behind it.

Are 2020 ASE's going to fetch a nice premium in the future? Because 2020 is now a notable year due to virus, but also mints and mines are largely closed or at reduced capacity so not many 2020 coins were made.

>>19837848
brb joining the illuminati
Seriously though that's what gets me, how much knowledge about our own history has been lost? Hopefully there are secret records being preserved somewhere.

>>19837615
>tfw ywn own a 3000 years old statue of Horus made out of pure silver
why even bother to live

>>19837916
Beautiful coin
>>19837994
I'm wondering about that too.
I don't think that there are going to be fewer 2020s minted than other years (I could be wrong, if someone knows numbers pls post), but it is the last year of the design. I was thinking about picking up a few for that reason.
The new design could be better, could be worse, we'll see.
If they put chips in 'em then fuck that I'll only buy old ASEs, and I know I'm not the only one so that could boost demand.

>>19838041
There are stories about the golden manuscripts that were saved by Monks from the smelter during the destruction of the Aztec empire, similar stories persist from the chronicles of the Inca empires destruction. Apparently though most of those artifacts were claimed by the sea or were lost later after being added to private nobility collections in Europe. Who knows whats out there just forgotten about.

>>19838092
>If they put chips in 'em
Oh shit would they really do that? I know they wanted more secure features but I figured they would copy Canada or something, not some microchip bluetooth thing like the MintID coins

>>19838153
fuck i am terrible tonight, heres a link to a neat doc from Time Team back in 08 about stolen ancient treasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG8GFdCROk This shit happens all the time and never really makes the news unless someone fucks up the false documents like what happened here.

>>19838153
>were lost later after being added to private nobility collections in Europe
Hmm. I'm skeptical, they seem to be into ancient knowledge, being gatekeepers etc.
Low key want to join the loominurti for access to the knowledge, but can't condone kiddie diddling or eternal damnation so that's a no-go...

>>19838167
I think they'll definitely try. Whether they'll be successful or not, I don't know. Many of us would never buy them, but I don't know what percentage of the buying demographic we are.

>>19838172
Thank you! Also I know you're working and the link is at home, but don't forget about the info regarding American minting outpacing PMs mined. Thanks fren.

Oh shit bros Egypt is talking war on Libya. Is this it? The spark that sets the world ablaze? With oil prices at historic lows and volatility, will Russia decide to sell it's crude to China at firesale prices? China might finally decide to get uppity and start really pushing the South China Sea issue? Ukraine has been hot for about 5 years now. Russian weasel planes have been caught in US airspace twice in the last two weeks. That carrier that China had under production vanished under cloud cover from American intel sats. Trump is visibly deteriorating on television. The US elections loom. Africa is under attack by locusts. The Middle East just lost it's main export as a reliable source of money. Is it time?

>>19838225
I have it written down for looking up in my archive when i get home.

Since it's at 300 I made a new
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>>19838234
Awesome, thank you! Much appreciated.

>>19836661
Don’t get fractional for goodness sakes, save up and get the full oz, you’ll kick yourself if you end up getting a full oz in fractional but paying hundreds more just because you’re impatient

>>19838236
Good job

>>19829117
i just bought my dad a canadain silver coin
its his first silver coin and its for father's day

>>19836678
nice shah coin bro
from your dad?