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19763967 No.19763967 [Reply] [Original]

How financially feasible would it be to run a successful bar/arcade with an emphasis on competitive games rather than just party games?

>> No.19764055

>>19763967
Angry competitive gamers drinking? Lots to spend on security

>> No.19764066

>>19763967
Tbh you’re overthinking it.
People want to relax and Fuxk around no one wants to be super competitive with a old retro game.

And unfortunately roasties don’t get it.

You’re better off with a regular bar or barcade

>> No.19764107

>>19764066
I think it would be nice to have a tournament every once in a while

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>>19764066
I never specified retro games. It could be modern cabinets of Tekken 7 or Street Fighter V. I just threw that up because I didn't know what else to put up.

>> No.19764193

>>19763967
Don't do it. I know 4 people who started one and they ALL failed miserably. It's like hookers. You think it's cute and grand until the lights come on.

Buy AAVE, make it, then never work again.

>> No.19765174
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>>19763967
You need to decide your target demographic now. Do you put up signs requiring basic hygiene, or do you hope that volume of people counteracts the ass-stank of your typical melee player driving some customers away?

>> No.19765189

>>19763967
you're just gonna get a bunch of nerds who'll just show up for the games and not pay for drinks

>> No.19765206

>>19764193
There is one in my town, it’s been successful but the arcades were always out of order all the time and finally they were removed altogether with only pinball machines and skeetball remaining. It’s hard to maintain the stuff with the supply of arcade CRTs drying up.

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>>19763967
I've only been to one barcade but it had zero serious gamers. Was all normies and not any different from other bar except it was 95% millenials and zoomers

>> No.19765221

>>19765174
There's no way that there'd enough people to counteract the stank of a melee player, there'd have to be some sort of rule list for entering.
>>19765189
That's a fair point, the games wouldn't be free of course, but yeah there'd have to be some sort of incentive to buy drinks.

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>>19763967
>competitive games
Sorry but those autist nerds like to play games online at home, and they hate socializing in a "bar"

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>>19765221
I'll invest on the condition that you carry no India pale ales, imperial india pale ales, and all your pale ales are sessionable and subject to my approval. Your tap list must contain at least 9 porters, stouts, imperial stouts, wee heavies, scotch ales, old ales, or swartzbiers. This should allow you to pull in a craft beer crowd just fine, while driving out hop-head faggots with no money and no taste.

Consider inviting Twitch speed runners (no thots) to do live runs as a weekly thing. make sure they can interact with their chat without being a dead blanket first. Projectors will probably be better if wall space is not a huge concern. Weekly tournament events can be a draw, but you'll need a sizable population of people of drinking age, so stick to a college town for this.

>> No.19765443

>>19764066
I will disagree and say there are groups of people who very seriously want to competitively play retro fighting games.

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>>19765409
At the risk of killing discussion, I'm not currently planning on creating a business, I'm nowhere near business-savy enough to trust myself to run a successful business. I just wanted to ask business-savy anons on whether or not it was possible. Sorry for any confusion this might have drawn. It's an idea that I really want to run with, but I don't have the capability for it as I am now.

>> No.19766226

If you had third strike in your barcade and you actually maintained the machine the fans for that game alone will keep you afloat

>> No.19766266

>>19766006
maybe cyber cafe with alcohol? host gaming events, seasonal stuff.
let them rent a comfy cubicle with at least a computer or laptop. maybe have a menu of consoles you would like to have instead or in addition too. oh wait, it would turn into a nursery for neets.

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>>19763967
Owning a barcade (or any small business accessible by the public) in the year 2020 is retarded. All it takes is one BLM protest to march down your street and burn your life's work to the ground.

>> No.19766370

>>19766226
Ideally it would have Third Strike, II Turbo, V, Tekken 7, Blazblue CTB, GG XRD or Strive, MvC 2, and Samurai Shodown. Other, more classic cabinet would be available such as Metal Slug. Though that is a lot to maintain so at the beginning it would probably just be Third Strike, V, and Tekken or something like that.

>> No.19766391

>>19766370
And probably a couple consoles for non arcade games like Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat.

>> No.19766424

I saw you in that fighting game thread on /v/.

>> No.19766680

Make a bar with card tables, and let people rediscover kicking it and playing cards with friends. Also find a way to print custom-back card decks that you can sell

>> No.19766800

>>19763967
I own one in New Orleans.
Business model works.
Just had to wait about 1.5 years to become profitable.
Building the community is everything.

>> No.19766815

>>19766800
Checked and nice man

>> No.19766844

>>19766317

>All it takes is one BLM protest to march down your street and burn your life's work to the ground.

do you not realize how statistically unlikely something like that is? why would you even bring that up like a legitimate reason to avoid starting a business? stop consooming mainstream media you are ruining your brain.

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>>19766370
No girls would come to this bar but I would love to play Third Strike with my fellow 80s and 90s boomers

>> No.19767110

>>19763967
its a bad financial idea. Fighting games are a small niche in modern games. Maybe if you did battle royal games you could have a profitable business model like promote the idea of LAN party type stuff.

>> No.19767158

>>19763967
whenever I go to barcades it's just normies drinking and the 2 antisocial assholes playing pacman. the arcade games are really there to distract incels

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>>19766800
What are the demographics like? What games are you running? What beers are you serving?

>> No.19767224

>>19766424
Yeah I mentioned at the end of it going to /biz/ for advice.

>> No.19767492

>>19766370
>No Tetris
>No Pac-Man
Props on including Metal Slug tho

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>>19767492
I was doing something else while I was writing that post and Metal Slug was the only non-fighting arcade game that came to mind. Ideally it would also have games like Pac-Man/Tetris/Dig Dug. Even the arcades of old weren't just filled with fighting games. The setup I think would be a good starter would be probably be three maybe four cabinets, Pac-Man, Metal Slug, Third Strike, and really anything for the possible fourth, two PS4s/Xbones, and two large T.V. screens. It'd be easier to maintain just a few cabinets rather than filling the place out with them and having them constantly need fixing, with some cabinets being for more casual players, and the other cabinet as well as the console be more competitive. Also a foosball table might help.

>> No.19767763

>>19767706
Just have a private room in the back for LAN games

Don’t waste money on arcade glunks from the ‘80s and 90s. As Anon said, spare parts are harder and harder to find. Fools will spill beer all over the place. Grrls and thots feel creeped on by incel geeks smashing controls . . .

Just have a private room for Magic the Gathering or SC2 in the back. Let guys drink a round or two and then start their party (with no booze) in the back.

So basically, this is the update on basement poker nights — making it /v/ grade

>> No.19767809

>>19764107
I would be very down for soundproof booths for the gamers, with little screens at tables to watch the gamers cassually while eating n drinking. Super smash melee would be necessary. Guilty gear x is also a dope brawler.

>> No.19767833

>>19767763
How could you market that though? Generic bar #8957 but with a geek room?

>> No.19767840

>>19763967
I don’t want to leave my house.
I just want to train all day on my favorite games and then challenge fuckers over the internet and take their shekels
Was actually excited about the last chainlink hackathon winner. They had this. Now we just need right ui.

>> No.19768582

>>19766370
Maintaining a CPS3 for Third Strike is a massive pain in the ass.
If you could find a way to run it on, say, Dreamcast, with decent joysticks and a good CRT in a custom cabinet, you could save a lot of money. It got very solid ports of all the SFIII games (no one really cares about NG or 2I but you have more options) and an arcade-perfect version of MvC2 in addition to Guilty Gear X, Power Stone 1/2, and some good CPS2 and Neo Geo ports (SFA3, Garou MW).

CPS2 and Neo Geo MVS are decent entries too.

It all really comes down to how hardcore your audience is. Will they cause a scene over a missing frame or a loading screen? Will they know whether or not they're playing an original Pac-Man cabinet or new "Anniversary 30-in-1" emulation cabinet?

>> No.19768677

>>19767763
A bar with no alcohol allowed and you have to hang out in a shitty back room. Sounds like most of your ideas. Shitty and not the tiniest bit profitable.

>> No.19768738

>>19763967
It'll fail. People prefer to play at home and has the capability to do it. Arcades used to thrive because of the influx of new blood but that's gone now.