/biz/ - Business & Finance

why line down

l m a o

so I should sell all my airlines in September right? before the lay offs?

>>19761477
line go all kind of way

>>19761489
hold hold hold

Buy WFC calls. Wait until early next week. You've been warned

>>19761489
I would be more concerned about July earnings. All of them do earnings that month. Most starting on the 20th.

>>19761486
DESPITE BEING 14% OF....

>>19761445
Absolutely. These fields should be defunded (no government-backed loans for example), for the good of naive young students like I was.

>>19761486
schiff is smart but has a timing problem

>>19761521
actually all forms of loaning money should be banned and its a way for rich people to exploit poor people called usury

prices of colleges and houses and cars would all drop so average people can afford it with a job

>>19761486
>gold once again tracks the market, same with buttcoin
>start seething into boomer facebook rants
Classic

>>19761450
>diaperfags ruin yet another thread

>>19761521
>These fields should be defunded (no government-backed loans for example)
If people just paid for their own fucking education you wouldn't need a radical solution like this.

>>19761516
Hifumi was best girl and didn't get nearly enough screen time.

>>19761477
line do macarena on cruise ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdq0ji9Vpz0

>>19761437
Welcome to the party. You're just in time for the 2020-2031 stock market rally. Just don't do anything stupid like listening to HTZ retards or day trading and you'll be fine.

>>19761450
Based
>>19761538
Cringe

>>19761450
I should not have this fetish.
Stupid 4chan.

>>19761516
you gonna get outta jets then?

>>19761338
twitter was so much better than the fucking TV news or normie internet news for the first day (or two?) of the rioting. Fucking FOX and MSNBC isn't putting their reporters and camera teams out there in that shit. Zoomers with cellphones and twitter live shit were in it.

>>19761327
>V was the worst offender.
but V sold off all its gains today...

>>19761360
get more news from financial podcasts instead.
polkucks will shout me down, but the economist daily briefing is good, and the longer one (The Intelligence) and the weekly one (Editor's picks) are great IF you're interested in the story. Sometimes it's about the overthrow of the corrupt government in Wazirastan or whatever and you just check the summary to see which stories you actually want to listen to.

Also, Numbers by Barron's and the FT News Briefing (every morning), Morgan Stanley's Thoughts on the Market (Every time it's Mike Wilson or Andrew Sheets), and some other shit like Marketplace by NPR thrown in there. That'll get you right sorted.

>>19761500
>i go on JSTOR and find books/articles
he doesn't read anything but 4chan, what the hell are you suggesting academic journals for?

>>19761536
>debt is bad
Let's keep it going ktarts. literally one of the most powerful (and potentially most virtuous) tool to ever exist should be banned.

>>19761516
Here, airline earnings dates for July:
>Air Canada July 31
>AAL July 24
>DAL July 9
>UAL July 21
>LUV July 23
>ALK July 23
>ALGT July 22
>SKYW July 23
>JBLU July 28

Sexualising family members is a sign of significant mental disturbance.

Sexualising children is a sign of significant mental disturbance.

Fix yourself.

>>19761486
Schiff: "Your dollars are about to become worthless! Only gold will maintain value! You need to panic right now! Luckily, I have a solution. You see, I have plenty of gold. I'll exchange my valuable gold in return for your worthless cash. I sure am giving you a good deal."
honestly i kinda respect him
he reminds me of the Wizard of Oz
i bet hes great at parties

>>19761530
Somewhat but not really. Gold did way better than SPY in last 10 years.

Sexualising infancy is a sign of significant mental disturbance.

>>19761588
>you gonna get outta jets then?
I already did. That 30% or whatever it was drawdown stopped me out along the way down. Ain't taking no -30% drawdown on no trade no nevers. I'll be back in on the next buy signal.

>>19761590
no learn history dude

noble christian whites could not loan money at interest by following the bible and only jews could

and it allowed jews to gain power and now we have megabanks today where they have taken complete control of society

a bank is supposed to be a vault with your gold in it so you dont get robbed

not all powerful megalodon entities that run society and loan out fake money with interest to take money from poor people

Any suggestion on where to paper trade, preferable something that doesn't want me to sign up an account?

>>19761614
You're joking, right? You can't be really this dumb?

>>19761599
the news won't be good, but surely the prices wont drop down to March levels. r-right guys?

>>19761587
Try spending some time in the diaper aisle. I got so fucking tired of looking at stupid babies and that smell when I was a stocker at Albertsons.

>>19761563
>Welcome to the party. You're just in time for the 2020-2031 stock market rally. Just don't do anything stupid like listening to HTZ retards or day trading and you'll be fine.
Im neither new here, nor do I just own 10k USD.
Im talking about the other Anon who is just starting out apparently.

Im just saying some people here act quite rude when someone is trying at 8k or so, even though they are trying their best.

Except pennyshitters. They should all be gassed.

>>19761634
just use a fricken pen and paper, breh...it's called paper trading for a reason.

>>19761647
Nothing wrong with trimming your exposure before earnings. I do so frequently and rarely regret it.

>>19761634
use real money, paper trading doesn't work.

NIO keeps going up. It was at 7 dollars today what the fuck.
It's doing way better than tesla. Should I fomo in?
Asian markets seem bullish.
Only the west is squeamish

>>19761588
>but V sold off all its gains today...
I woke up at 4pm CET today when it was at 198 or so.
I sold everything just 5 mins before the big dump because sleepy me was suspicious about the big move.

>>19761630
>autistic chick poster is also an anti-semite
not surprised desu

>>19761644
Maybe you agree with what Schiff is saying, but Schiff doesn't agree with what Schiff is saying.

>>19761624
yeah no

>>19761602
>>19761625

what if I sexualize you

What's the best stocks for short-term right now? (not day trading)

>>19761652
>Except pennyshitters. They should all be gassed.
Seems like all the penny stock fags have moved onto shitcoins.

>>19761681
humpf, jack is so perfect.

>>19761588
idk, the other anon brought up JSTOR. I mentioned NBER.
>get more news from financial podcasts instead
I prefer WSJ to the economist, but i really only look at headlines and do a quick skim for numbers unless the subject matter of the article is more big brained and really can't just be some kind of stupidity. The only podcast i've been able to listen to is In Our Time. I'll check out that daily brief or Editor's picks.

>>19761630
>here's my argument.
>dah bibble
>liquidity? that's a bad thing.
>employing capital more efficiently with fiduciary capacity? (which it isn't at the moment) that's impossible.

>>19761698
CEQP SSL OIS PVAC HLX

and I work at CATM so buy it bc its going up. glad I bought in at 23 monday morn.

Might have to rewatch new game

>>19761685
Ok, you're right. 10y was just a random number out of my ass.

>>19761678
>Fucking NIO
Jfc
Buy in if you think the commies will give them money in the future, do not buy in if you think the Chinks might drop it.

>>19761699
Yeah. You see less and less of them here.
Or after the great influx in january some people have lost all their money/became wiser and no longer gamble on CumshitdiaperTherapeutics.

Isnt their also a general for them?
>>19761714
Nothing beats the Sabers

>>19761682
I hate the /pol/ posters but most semites are not jews, jews actually tend to be anti-semtic ironically.

>>19761720
ya liquidity is horrible thats why you have mega corporations

hurrr lets just invest all this money into a company which hasnt earned it yet

now we have elon musk building cgi rockets tricking everyone into thinking that space exists

because morons like you wanted to destroy every small business and destroy competition

if every business was private and had to build from the ground up it would be a lot different

and a lot better world

>>19761684
Use your brain, man. Where does he get the gold from? What does he pay? What do his private customers pay?

>>19761602
>Fighting against the demiurge
Good luck brother

>>19761750
you sure?

>>19761602

>>19761757
>now we have elon musk building cgi rockets tricking everyone into thinking that space exists
you should get a trip so we can filter you.

>>19761602
>>19761625
>being this upset over a meme about people wearing diapers and trading stocks
Get fucked retard

>>19761764
Yes. I am all knowing

>>19761775
welp its not my fault if you havnt figured it out by now, were living in clown world. and likely if you only wage cucked your whole life you havnt even scratched the surface.

if you think coronavirus is a real virus then i already reduce your IQ to a npc level of a negro

>footures green as fuck
i am financially......bruined

Would Tesla be part of a Black Lives Matter index?

>>19761757
>>>/pol/ buddy.
>people use debt bad and it creates systemic problems
>therefore no one can use it
>guns kill!
>no more guns@!!!1112!

Also:
>all corps are fucking TSLA and AMD (both literally have bright futures maybe ZM and SNAP are better here)
>what are barriers to entry

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

@19761803
coronavirus is real, it's not particularly dangerous unless you're a fat fuck or an old fuck or a fat old fuck.
mental illness is also real get some help.
don't reply to me.

level of mumu smugness: extremely high

>>19761817
When I overcook my chicken and have to eat it like an animal without sauce because I forgot to buy some, this is white supremacy.

>>19761818
you can loan money to your son or your friend or your neighbor for free

loaning at interest is called usury and its a sin from the bible because now youre exploiting your money to take advantage of a poor person

it should be outlawed completely in a just world.

also guns there should be no restrictions on firearms at all

why do you think im a liberal? hell no

>>19761775
just dont read posts where you see a gook in the thumbnail, its that easy. he doesnt care about anything he is typing, purposely posts wrong information and stupid shit to start an argument, and i honestly doubt he even trades or invests in any way at this point. just posts to see himself posting. a pitiful existence

>>19761847
elbow nipple

>>19761833
>"""""""""""from coronavirus"""""""""

It's literally a case of "the boy who cried wolf." All these fucking faggots cared so much until they threw it all away because protesting against the police was so important.

Now they're back to crying about the virus, and nobody gives a shit anymore. They can fuck right off.

>>19761855
stop poasting this beautiful gookess makes me wanna coooooooom

>>19761810
i mean it's flat as far as I'm concerned. at midnight tonight we get a better feel and obviously in the morning pre market.

I want a green day though. I want to see zero red the rest of the week.

>Why yes I do write covered calls.

>>19761855
>loaning at interest is called usury
Usury is loaning at excessive rates, not merely loaning.

@19761855
i didn't say lefty/pol/ you stupid faggot. how long until you get a bug out in thailand

>>19761842
based. >>19761088 for you stupid fuckers.

>>19761833
>waaaaaaaaah gib my memeflu attention waaaaaaaaaah
fuck this faggot

>>19761757
this post is true except for the reddit spacing

>>19761817
how do us whites win against this fud?

>>19761833
800 dead boomers is bullish

>>19761889
no thats the definition on google the definition has changed over time

it used to be that all whites in civilized society could not loan out at interest and they used to have wars to get rid of the central bank

because the jews wanted to implement their system of loaning out money to scam people

and now they have central banks in every country scamming the whole nation creating mega corporations and mega banks to control everyone

because whoever gets the money first from the fed (THE BANKS) get to take advantage of everybody else

THIS IS STILL TODAYS THEME

https://vimeo.com/308488692

@19761914
stop posting my countrywomen and go to SEA already.

Saved this gem from previous thread

all bible quotes

If thou lend money to any of My people, even to the poor with thee, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.

Take thou no interest of him or increase; but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee. Thou shalt not give him thy money upon interest, nor give him thy victuals for increase

that hath withdrawn his hand from the poor, that hath not received interest nor increase, hath executed Mine ordinances, hath walked in My statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother: interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent upon interest. Unto a foreigner thou mayest lend upon interest; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon interest; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou puttest thy hand unto, in the land whither thou goest in to possess it

Corona is only killing substantially latinos and their "hybrid vigor" so much for race mixing being the future

>>19761450
>diaperchad meme edition
we had this edition yesterday.

>>19761890
>@
This is the most obvious way of pretending not to be butthurt.

Bros why are futures up? I left watching charts for a little bit and they were down like -0.7% but they aren't anymore, guess bears getting btfo again

>>19761602
>he thinks humans haven’t been impregnating their adolescent family members for millennia
Small brained.

>>19761959
And do you know what edition the previous thread was?

>>19761955
>>19761914
blessed
(please stop reddit spacing your posts tho, it's annoying to read)

>>19761959
I don't mind diapers, but once a day is too much particularly if you're not even going to change up images

>>19761971
he's chronically just cancer. go ahead and keep reading his posts. at least we can laugh at baggie, but this guy is as bad as the soijack autist

>>19761997
Just stop posting about him.

In the coming weeks the term “bears” will cease to exist. It will be studied in history books but will never again be referenced in real life.

In the end, we were all, bullboi

>>19762011
>[reee internally]

Man the Futures are doing sweet fuck all. Not moving either way.

>>19761698
PLUG
WKHS (look into it. Huge possible contracts from Govt, could moon)

>>19762039
Maybe you should try some meditation or whatever. Alan watts is always very insightful.

>>19761887
writing covered calls is the most patrician strategy.
especially writing covered calls on dividend kings. my dick is gonna rip through my bicycle shorts just thinking about it

i bought 400 shares of red robin (rrgb) at 11.70 just before close. i honestly don't understand the news that made shares fall so much (adding shares) but i don't mind being long on them.

this is the stupidest kind of dd in existence ("oh i eat there and it's usually busy") but it feels less stupid than buying oil tankers when i don't know shit about oil lol

>>19762064
Pic related

>>19761997
its unironically terminal cancer. I hate to say it but my smg days are numbered.

>>19761984
I might agree... but the girl in that pic is super cute. I just ignore the bottom third of the image...

>>19761698
Nvax

>0.00%

Whew lads were all gonna make it

>>19761865
Lookner isn't a leftie, he's been covering covid since the very beginning.

>>19762080
Writing cov calls only makes sense if you think that vol is overpriced.

OH FUCK
WILSON SAYS TARGETING 2800 S&P RETEST BEFORE THE BIRTH OF THE NEW BULL MARKET.

I HATE IT!!!!
But I would be happy as fuck to buy that dip...

>>19761859
Delete this

>>19762068
i feel a moral obligation (read near OCD) to call it out when something is so blatantly wrong. Especially if it's about a financial tool in a "stock market general." It's one of a few threads/generals that i'll visit on the whole site at this point, and seeing it be shit is painful.

>>19762094
W H E R E S T H E C H E M O ? THAT'S IT I'M GOING LONG. IF VIX GETS BELOW 20 EVERTHING WILL BE FINE RIGHT?

>>19762108
>2800
that's a bit high imo. Good target zone to take some profits.

>>19761887
>>19762080
What are covered calls

>>19762108
Up or down, make money either way.

Fuck hertz. This piece of shit just keeps going back up. And it's up AH.

>>19762114

You will not suceed browsing /biz/ for any reason but entertainment.

>>19761678
>He's not already invested in official CCP car company

ngmitbqhwyfam

OH NO NO NO BOBOCHADS THEY LITERALLY HAVE A GUY PRINTING MONEY INFLATING THEIR MARKET AND THEY STILL ONLY GREW 2 PERCENT LMAOOOOOOO

>>19762151
i wonder if the anon that bought calls for $40 sold them at a loss.

Who made money off the African American PUMP

>>19762155
Kek

>>19762117
>and seeing it be shit is painful.
I felt the same thing once before. I tried to change the thread but it did nothing. I was just wasting my time. Only after I learned to let go and to leave this shit hole behind me I found peace. Sometimes I come back to see how it evolves but it just keeps getting worse, but I don't care. I'm making a shit ton of money while all the faggots here will forever stay poor. And that gives me incredible satisfaction.

Also lmao'ing@ all these news media retards trying to blame Hertz on "Robinhood millenials". It's smart money squeezing over-leveraged shorts who think they've entered a guaranteed win.

Bit of trouble in futuresville

>>19762172
I saw it happening at $20 (because i'm retarded) and didn't jump in. I knew it had to stop somewhere. Still could have made money.

>>19761681
>>19761714
based.
>>19761699
>>19761750
>Seems like all the penny stock fags have moved onto shitcoins.
they often start their own general, I see it on the catalog and sometimes pop in to generally talk shit and see if anyone has any interesting stocks. I'm actually kind of hungry for small caps right now.

I just FOMO'ed back into TGTX and I also bought $200 of PLAB.

>>19762129
wat?

>>19762117
I know the feeling
It took me a long time to accept that L*I*G*Y gives out bad financial advice on purpose and that's just how it goes.
He did disappear while the new and very deliberately stupid, deliberately reddt-spacing retard showed up... but that's probably just a coincidence...

>>19762190
>it just keeps getting worse
I disagree. We're on a the upswing of an oscillating cycle, (possibly aided by all my incessant anime girl juices posts driving away the fucktards), you just gotta ignore the one avatar-poster.

>>19762218
Oh fuck.
I bought.
READY THE PINKS

>>19762172
>>19762172
the fuck is this shit and how do I find random stocks that moon in a day likethis ?

>>19762082
The argument for tankers is this:
>Low order book
>high average age of ship
>Oil supposedly booming next year

Basically, tankers are only in service 10-15 years before they are scrapped. A LARGE percentage of tankers will be scrapped in immediate future due to being in that age range.

Low order book refers to orders to buy new tankers. Almost no one is buying any new tankers to replace the ones that will be scrapped soon. This is because the whole industry got burned a decade ago when everyone oversupplied on ships and drove rates down. (you can see this on any tanker's 15 year chart).

The whole market is reversing over the next year or two, with the winners being those with young fleets (like stng and fro).

Oil demand projected to be super high next year is just a cherry on top because the demand for oil transport will be so much higher than available.

High dividends are also a bonus.

If you are willing to hold for a year or two, you could make a lot of money off what you accumulate now.

>>19762246
Has anyone figured out who's twitter is responsible?

Kanye or Oprah had a slow day and pumped this shit.

>>19762249
Im getting inidications from god that theres going to be a day when you cant buy in anymore

youre not going to be able to accumulate oil till next year

there cometh a time when its too late ZOOOOOM MOOOOO

the cow moos baby

I know im going to look like a retard but I sold some stock on TD Ameritrade specifically using the thinkorswim app. And now its in my cash and sweep vehicle and I have no idea how to access it. It hasn't let me use those funds to buy stock.

>>19762190
>I was just wasting my time.
I might dip until Q1 or Q3 next year. it should be calm and back to normal by then, no?
>all the faggots here will forever stay poor
for kpop, if it helps, he had 1k on margin for GUSH and got called twice over it dropping. The 16x leverage WTI guys were cooler, but shit's wsb tier. Most interesting tips that have popped up lately are probably that WFC call, the TQQQ/TMF strat, maybe iron, and tankers.

>>19762236
>wat?
I'm a bear. Good place to shave off some hedges or bearish positions. That's going to be around the 200 Daily MA which is floating around 2.7k right now? it's likely we go back and bounce off, could still fall through.

>>19762249
>stng and fro).
tanker stocks literally only go down

>>19762268
Did you wait two days to let it settle?

>>19762268
bearish signal if i ever saw one

>>19762268
Sounds like something to bother their tech support about. IIRC the funds might be in money markets which is why you can't access them.

>>19762102
you can always write unrealistic covered calls. making a tiny bit of passive income stealing people's hopes and dreams. maybe i make $24 selling XOM $60 7/17

>>19762080
Covered calls remove your top performers over time. Divvy stocks already underperform and that strategy double downs on it.

>>19762268
you can buy stocks but you cant take them out until funds are settled.
if you do buy stocks with the unsettled funds you wont be able to sell until funds are settled

>futures dying out of nowhere
I wish I knew what secret jew intel source drives this shit

>>19762266
god she is so ugly, even after make up and all the surgery

>>19762287
Sure didnt, is that how it works? I am so fucking new to this shit, but i finally have money to actually invest so im trying to get the hang of it all.

Thanks anon.

oof

>>19762304
XOM was just 54 a couple days ago....one day this will backfire and you will sell 100 shares for $24?

>>19762134
Don't tell him

>>19762319
nancy is white

why are you hating on a white girl

What do you guys think about tattooed chef ? Will it moon like nkla did ?

>>19762284
>tanker stocks only go down
I going to get this tattoed on my chest when I make it off tankers.

For real though it just gives me more time to accumulate. The golden tanker bull run wont be tomorrow or next week, it will be in a few months and it will last into the the next few years.

>>19762155
saved

>>19762254
not that I would touch this now but it would be nice to throw 1000$ at and watch that hit 5k then dump. Who is promoting this random nog brand?

>>19762304
>unrealistic covered calls
There's no premium behind that. It also doesn't solve the problem. You have to make your own vol forecast which is better than the market's. GEX is a simple way but it's far from perfect.

>>19762346
what tankers are you invested in?

Stop jacking off to anime on your phone and trade like a man.

>>19762346
Oh fuck man how much are you holding and how much have you lost?

>>19762246
I saw it around $6 on my robinhood feed for the top gainers..then I read the bio and it said something about African American radio broadcasting or something like that. I though to myself, “damn with all this racial talk maybe this will get some hype I should buy and ride the train”. I did not lol I saw it on my feed again at $20 and was perplexed when it hit $33

>>19761486
Omfg. Peter should call Watson, co-discoverer of the DNA helix, to see how far a Nobel’s price and general recognition as one of the world’s foremost scientists protects the messenger of this type of message.

>>19762363
I thought he had a pair of panties on his ear there for a second.

>>19762375
so I have to listen to the breakfast club, eh its not worth it

I'm bored. Let's see circuit breakers.

>>19762363
nah, thinking about jerkin to arknights.

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

>>19762402
imagine being attracted to a guy with 1 monitor and a membrane keyboard

>>19762392
Lewd

>>19762326
Yeah it's like that because of sec regulations, keep that in mind when you trade, you don't want your money tied up during a good opportunity

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>19762315
I just roll them over each friday. I always get more credit for the roll and up the strike. Essentially its free money.

Only if the stock outpaces the options do I have a problem. But if MSFT or AAPL go up 100% in a year we have bigger issues than my options really.

somi is also white

one of the most popular kpop girls

she dominates! analy

what would you do to her?

shes mostly white genetics

>>19762423

>>19762409
Pump it
>>19762423
Dump it
>>19762392
Suck it.

>>19761647
>but surely the prices wont drop down to March levels. r-right guys?
Not gonna happen lol as much as I want it to happen so that I could scoop up all those cheapies. Not when the billionaires are buying shares again. Buffett is itching to buy back in to airlines, and I bet the people at Berkshire Hathaway who suggested him to sell probably got fired.

>>19762402
>tfw THREE monitors and a light-up keyboard

>>19762432
Looks average desu, picture was more attractive as a thumbnail

>>19762409
I say you line go all kinda way.

>>19762370
I have 10k in and I'm down ~5% Try to only buy the dips but can't always time it.

Would show a screencap but chase blocks it.

>>19762456
my nigger
Ultra widescreens are for mega autists.

Didn't people this wrong about the market jump out of skyscrapers? Americans these days have no honor.

>>19762456
>tfw one monitor and a washable waterproof keyboard

>>19762402
based arknights bro. who's the hottest operator ? i personally like ch'en and skadi

Two circuit breakers tomorrow as more details about Beijing’s situation spread. Sell at open, buy at close.

>>19762342
yes

>>19762363
>normie news network
Get your shit together.
This is brain poison. They’re in on the joke that D and R are the same shit with a different primary color. (Shit look at how often an anchor will go from one side to the other.)

They fill your head with unimportant thoughts and pique your sense of righteous anger and indigence toward the other political party.

>>19762423
Fucking of course. I should’ve listened to mike’s piece yesterday and not bought so hard today.

He said one of the things he favors are “low-quality cyclicals” that can survive the recession. lmao. Never heard any of them recommend low quality.

>>19762459
are you sure anon?

go look into her yourself

shes not missing in the looks department

>>19762488
I just dont know. If Beijing is serious we might see a 5% dump just because boomers fear for their life.
Its the sniffs sniffs though so we all know its actually a nothingburger... right?

"probably" is a nice hedge against pulling shit straight outta your ass

>>19762474
That sounds like a pundit. I bet he doesn’t make his money off stocks, but sells books or tv appearances or some bullshit.

>>19762504
> “low-quality cyclicals”
What does this even mean?

>>19762512
he knows he's gonna get replaced by a groid

>>19762523
gamestop :D

>>19762358
Scorpio
Frontline
Euronav

insw also looks solid but I'm not in that one

>zoom at 243
A webcam app is literally valued more than the top US airlines COMBINED

>>19762506
I gotta admit that is a much better picture of her than the last one.

So I'm new to the stock market and have no idea what I'm doing aside from "buy low and sell when you think it's as high as its gonna get." Would you guys mind giving some pointers to help a guy out.

>>19762486
Dunno, don't play, just looking at Waai Fu and lappland porn.
Waai Fu makes me feel like a dirty furry bastard.
Don't happen to know what her office is do you?

https://twitter.com/Moyyed_JY/status/1263140757856272388

fellas I am new to options. I've spend a solid week reading on investopedia and watching all these damn youtubers. I have made a few moves using Thinkorswims simulation feature in order to back test some things (e.g. RSI > 70% is a sell signal, <30% is a buy signal, Moving Averages imply XYZ, MACD implies ABC, etc)

Can we have a rational discussion regarding options strategies? Do you guys trade them intra-day? Trade a few weeks out? How do you determine if the stock is going to go up or down...or do you use things like strangles and not care? Is technical analysis worth a damn?

I made about $180 today on a $SPY put (which I bought for about $800) that I purchased in the morning. I truthfully didn't know if $SPY was going to go up or down today, but as it crabbed slightly down, I sold the put. I was looking at the price of $SPY all fucking day. "Do I sell? Do I hold onto tomorrow? What do I do?" It was mildy never-wracking. If I can make $180/day doing this shit then I am sold...but I'm sure there are instances where I will time something wrong/be incorrect about direction/etc.

>>19762539

This stock market bubble will be like a miracle. You'll close your eyes and poof, one day your money will be gone.

>>19762539
I had a put last week and sold it at a $150 profit. no reason for that chinkshit to be pumped so much.

just want AAL to hit 20 again so I can not kill myself

>>19762474
>"Johnson-kun, you have brought great losses to our house and have invited the dreaded margin call in our home."
>"Hai, CEO-sama..."
>"To restore your and our honour you will have to commit falldowno from the Chrysler building, as is tradition."
>"Yes, CEO-sama. I will follow the rites of our people. may my supervisors in heaven look kindly upon my failure and accept me among them."

>>19762549
What is your risk tolerance and timescale? If its low for the first or long for the second just invest in an index fund and hunt for a few pet stocks that you see having potential to grow over the span of years or decades (growing earnings, decreasing debt, growing cash stockpile, diversified goods or services, etc.)

>>19762539
zoom wont sustain that in 2 years

>>19762523
I’d appreciate if someone else weighed in, but my understanding is that cyclicals are companies that are tied to the business cycle. They thrive when the economy is doing well, and they suffer more when the economy is doing poorly. As opposed to something like healthcare and utilities and much of tech, that do well regardless of the economy.

Low-quality likely means companies that are seen as risky, I’d guess a lot of “value stocks” that are out of favor with the market, and have a low P/E.

>>19762172
>your account is restricted from purchasing

Wew lad, clearly not you.

>>19762334
>>19762354
im right every time so far. and one day ill be slightly off and forced to sell at an absurd profit. i dont mind selling at an absurd profit.
im turning people's absurd hopes into hard cash. thats the truth of it

>>19762246
Probably a dynamite short for tomorrow morning but maybe not when shits this wonky.

>>19762589
Should I just dump all 18k I have into 240 puts dated 2022? Could totally see that shit at $25 a share by then

>>19762556
One of the safer starts you can get with options is by selling covered calls. You exchange a potential gain on a stock for a guaranteed one, and if its something you're fine holding, all the better.

Predictions:
1. green futures but red open, crab all day then slight red close after jerome speech hype fades and he basically says the same boring bullshit again just like today.
2. oil down 3-4%
3. major tech stocks down 1-2% at most

>>19762601
He still won't tell anyone what he fucking did for that to happen

>>19762596
>>19762504
Also is bearish on bond proxies...

ARE MERCK AND JNJ BOND PROXIES?????

>>19762329
What indicator is that MA thing, also is that ToS?

Buddy from wall street told me that a huge dump is coming tomorrow. Get the fuck out of the market if you want to keep your shirt.

>>19762531
and what made you buy into these?

>>19762614
I hope line keeps going up

>>19762539
Insane. I want to buy puts but it's never going down. With skype and MS teams in the market I have no idea how the fuck it is where it is. And they recently announced they're not encrypting free calls. Who is buying this

>>19762334
>dat ass

I know this chick. I met her at the Source Awards, ass so fat bitch coulda won the Horse Awards.

>>19762625

Tradingview. The red/green ribbons are a user-made indicator called "Madrid Moving Average Ribbon". The bottom is the standard MACD.

>>19762627
everyone has their own opinions that dont mean shit

if theyre in a powerful position it makes me value their opinion less

thats actually bullish

>>19762549
>You wanna trade?
Buy 500$ worth of any names you recognize.
Play with it, watch it grow, lose, go up, down, sideways
Learn market times, language, futures, what is this, what is that

Then start understanding options. Calls, puts, writing them and buying them.

>You wanna fire and forget?
Buy some large index funds or so
30% SPY, 30% QQQ, 30% MSCI World, 10% of any good stocks you see growing like ADBE, MSFT or AMD or whatever you like
You are guaranteed to have more money in 20 years.

>>19762556
options are very hard to trade lad, and best only to daytrade them. hold only when you are absolutely confident something is about to drop or pop within a time frame. if you want more time then clearly buy options with further out expiry dates.

direction and size of movement is most important. even if you are right about something going up, but it only goes up like 0.5%, your calls will still lose value. you are trading the premiums on those contracts. think in terms of supply and demand, will there be demand later for your calls or puts, or will there be no buyers. if there's no buyers you are fucked.

>>19762627
maybe they just ate a lot

>make $2k yesterday
>this shit today

wtf? I thought we were starting the golden bull run?

>>19762640
line tired and take break tomorrow.
line will go up on friday :)
the house always wins.

>>19762556
Time decay, volatility, and in a distant third place stock price are the most important concepts related to options. Learn your damn greeks. Also keep in mind that volatility is stupid high and this is not the norm. It is better to buy contracts than sell them now. That was the reverse from 2009-2020.
For short term contracts (<2 weeks), the time decay is exponentially faster and your main enemy. Considering the number of shares involved even a 10% gain is solid and you need to be disciplined to not get too greedy. You will feel the pain of collecting early or letting go too late but at least you aren't bagholding the stock itself.
Longer contracts (>2 weeks) are as insurance policies. I think of those as playing against big announcements, the main regular one being earnings. Straddles and strangles are good intro options strategies. You will eat potential gains with the other premium(s) but also severely limit losses.
Once you get confident enough you can start dropping the hedge.

>>19762556
TA is there as a tool, it's useful but dont rely on it too heavily because it still comes down to probability at the end of the day. The key thing is being disciplined about taking profits and reducing losses. Set a profit/loss target and stick to it. If you take profits at 20% and sell losses at -10%, you'll still be profitable even if you're right only 50% of the time.

>>19762627
is your buddy a high-ranking insider or just another one out of the many hundreds of thousands of traders who happen to work in nyc. sounds like he's just another bud fox

>>19762556
My main things are writing naked puts and covered calls. Both bb tier strats.

I dont give a single shit about stuff like indicators or MACD (whatever that is lol).
I just do it on the same blue chip tech giants and earn money.

>>19762579
Holy fuck, source? That anime looks batshit.

>just learn how to trade bro
>just learn calls and puts and technical analysis

Or just go all in on almost any airline and be rich

>futes flat

what does this mean

>>19762685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-QpfLV8dQw

Btw. 4chanX has WAIT integrated

>>19762614
It'll most likely gap up again then crab down like today.

>>19762556
>Is technical analysis worth a damn?
Normally, FA determines if you will pull the trigger and TA helps decide when. There is some absolutely bonkers TA "tools" that are glorified tea leaf reading and confirmation bias. The more you get into this stuff the more you realize that the "dumber/simpler" the tool the more useful and that the more exotic ones work because they use them as a base.
Price average and volume are the only ones I have ever bothered with.

>>19762690
that would work however you would only double up one time by the end of the year and not have much else to go

>>19762698
our return

>>19762710
True. I doubt I’ll ever put money into the stock market again after this.

The Futures being so quiet as they are is fucking spooky man

>>19762685
>>19762700
Btw. The intro is just beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXCoXW8lr0k

What do I need to tell Fidelity so that they will let me trade margin and options? Do they even care if I lie to them? Or would it just be easier to open an account somewhere else that doesn't give a shit about you gambling and losing all your money?

>>19762549
You can only learn from practice. I never liked using those paper trading sites (where you play fake money in real world stocks), I feel like people will think “well I just made a million on this site, I can easily do the same in real life”. It just feels different using real money.

But anyway, start small. $500 is decent. Buy stocks you think will go up. Robinhood is ideal since it’s the very basic.

Don’t pay attention to anons that shit on your small start. You don’t want to start playing with $5000 not knowing what the hell is going on.

But just get comfortable buying and selling. You’ll notice trends, what stocks work, when to sell high and buy low. Which stocks you buy today sell tomorrow. Which headlines will rock the market. How volatile 930 and 330 trading is. And stocks which you’re willing to wait for a few weeks.

Also don’t feel pressure from anons making thousands on single trades. You don’t go to the gym day 1 and start benching 220. Work your way up.

>>19761890
What's wrong with Thailand?

>>19762662
>If you take profits at 20% and sell losses at -10%, you'll still be profitable even if you're right only 50% of the time.
good advice, thanks

>>19762672
naked puts seem pretty risky. I will consider covered calls, though I don't any stocks in high market cap companies, which is supposedly what I'm supposed to be trading options of

>>19762725

Robinhood.

>>19762690
I bought 250 shares of jetBlue at $8 a share

TOPS is the new GNUS

>>19762725
There's an online application, just google it

>>19762737
Why are you poor?

>>19762725
Robinhood literally gives no shits if you lie

>>19762725
I know my dad tried to execute an option on TD and some dude called him up and was like nah you can't do that, we're gonna block it. Fidelity might do something similar

>>19762725
I have Tasytworks and they never gave a shit.
I didnt even lie. Just asked them and they told me as long as I have money nobody cares.
>>19762733
Naked puts have the same risk as normal stocks. Except you get paid for just time passing.

Id argue naked puts are less risky than stocks actually.

>>19762727
500 dollars as a start means you are touching contracts on small or micro caps. Or SPY puts/calls a week or less before expiration.That is a more difficult space to learn in.

>>19762758
250 shares was nibbling, going all in on an airline is autistic. bulk of my holding is in RTX

>>19762737
You’ll triple your money at least.

I got 546 shares of SAVE and it already doubled

>>19762761
Lmfao this. I think when I did it it said “looks like you answered ___ to this question. Would you like to reconsider your answer” kek

>>19762700
That was even crazier than I was expecting.

>>19762385
underrated

and now the pump is back. I almost sold, they almost got me. What the fuck

>>19762733
>I will consider covered calls, though I don't any stocks in high market cap companies, which is supposedly what I'm supposed to be trading options of
You don't need high market cap, although that certainly helps with volume on contracts. You just need low volatility.

>>19762765
Like I said, it’s just to start off and get comfortable with the application he is using, and the market itself. I did the same thing. Like yeah, I had the capital to add a few thousand. But I told myself that I started $500. I wouldn’t add more until I made $100.

>>19762637
Without getting too much into it, those three are extremely well positioned to go into the next few years. Young fleets, good market share.

Stng is diversified into non-crude oils and is investing in the future of their fleet.

Fro has been accumulating cash, possibly to buyout competition?

Eurn has good dividends and also has good fundamentals and a very young vlcc fleet.

>>19762549
Limit orders, not market orders.
Budget an amount for each position. If I want $1000 of PLUG that's all I will spend. I will buy maybe $700-$800 at different prices as I build my position, then I will save what's left to average down if I need to. But sometimes it's better to just take the loss and move on. It depends on what you're doing with a given stock. Know ahead of time: am I long on this stock, is this a day trade, or a swing.
If the price is too high then don't buy it; if it opens at $23.77 try to get it cheaper. Maybe it will go down to $23.15, or $22.98. The changes adds up quickly.
Do not FOMO. There will be other opportunities.
Buy RED, sell GREEN.
If you hear/see something shilled relentlessly here, or on another site, on television... It's probably too late. Don't worry about it. There will be other opportunities.
Have an exit strategy. What is your target price? What is the most you are willing to lose? (Note that poor fags are allowed three day trades per five day period. Look up the Pattern Day Trade rule.) I always know when I'm exiting.
Take your gains when you can. The tax is higher for short-term capital gains, but unless it's one of my longs like GEO or IRM or KO I'm taking my gains.
I set aside 25% of gains for capital gains tax and I don't use that for trading.
I very rarely use my gains for trading. My gains go to my mutual fund/Roth/other.
Research before you buy. Know what a company does and if they are good at it. Look at volume. There are a million other things, too. Some I pay attention to, other I don't. Very rarely does the market make sense. I like to focus on a few companies at a time and I try to make money of them.
Life is short. Eat well, exercise, read, and surround yourself with people you care about. Try to better yourself every day.
Hope you liked my blog. Good luck.

>>19762774
This is fucking cringe.

How long do you think the Fed shenanigans will last?

>>19762815
limit orders are for crypto

the stock market is too slow and clunky if you need to buy something u just press buy and theres always enough volume

>>19762791
People say its a movie utterly BTFOing Japan.
Its over the top need for sex, the consumerism, the fake act like you believe in some religion and praise both the cat god and Jesus, overworked workers just throwing themselves off buildings and smiling, the empty happiness, etc.
Even this little scene shows this.

>>19762822
Until the dissolution of the United States. There will always be monetary shenanigans.

>>19762822
Until a total nuclear war wipes the federal reserve from the face of the planet. They will pump until they can physically pump no more.

>>19762822
Until they stop working

>>19761817
Nigga what. I donated to this cause, was she really just suffocated by car exhaust? I got shilled.

What does /biz/ think of for MAHMF? Check their charts; every few months they spike hard and seem to be due for it. Even if they don't they're still in that bid for the new USPS Van thats being submitted on July 10th.

>>19762744
I have 120 shares of TOPS. Should I be worried?

>>19762817
Why’s that anon. Mad cause airlines are guaranteed money right now ?

>>19762815
Who is this roastie?

>>19762172
bought in at 1.6 and cashed out at 30

>>19762800
I thought I wanted high volatility (or "vega"), since this is an indicator of greater price movement, right? Or is your point, No, you want to look for low volatility, since the option itself should cost less (higher the volatility higher the premium?).

>>19762660
>It is better to buy contracts than sell them now.
The opposite. High vola favors the seller.

>>19762865
Good luck with that.

>>19761450
Uhhh guys why are futures so quiet?

>>19762866
Large Breasted Bimbo #138920

>>19762731
Nothing, and I regret not visiting while I was traveling. I just fully expect him to go there and get HIV or something.

>>19762881
>>19762881
>>19762881
>>19762881

new

>>19762601
>>19762620
He got flagged as PDT nignogs.

>>19762866
My fiance, sir.

>>19762836
The director does some good shit. I'm not one to shill anime but his movie Perfect Blue and his show Paranoia Agent are very good and arguably a little "highbrow" / kino if that's your thing.

>>19762910
Fuck off

A serious bit of advice for anyone new to, or interested in options trading:

First, understand what survivorship bias is. The stories you read on wallstreetbets and the pictures people share of their 2K -> 10K -> 75K -> 190K gains aren't the norm. They're not even close to the norm. These are once in a lifetime plays that few are ever graced with the good fortune to experience. Be extremely realistic, and mentally prepare yourself to lose.

On that note, don't ever gamble more money than you're willing to part with. Options contracts can and do go to zero all the time. You can and will lose your entire investment. Don't ever chase losses, and don't ever feel guilty for taking a profit. If you sell a batch of contracts for 1K that moons to 10K afterward, don't sulk, and don't covet.

Weeklies are dangerous. Don't let the cheap premiums tell you otherwise. Be able to justify your plays, and take it on the chin if you lose.

BIG PUMP TOMORROW
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/16/massive-fed-support-for-stocks-pushes-james-bianco-out-of-bear-camp.html

>retail investors are pushing us to new high
>they believe JPOW on 60 minutes that he has infinite money and he will print to avoid any crash

bobos, when will you come out of your camp and join the bulls?

>>19762848
>>19762849
>>19762852

Bullish

you can miss the opportunity of a life time trying to buy a limit order for 3 cents less than what its at now

i disagree with that dude whos penny pinching

just market buy :]]]]]]]]]

every time u try to buy something cheap you miss out and you lose everything

and never get your chance

always pay the few cents extra

>>19762882
post the proofs

>>19762914
I had a young spanish teacher in highschool with a face and knockers like that. guys flirted with her in class and she'd snap back at em. good times

>>19762910
fuck off fag

>>19762910
Kill you’re self.

>>19762928
fuck yea i'm comfy, hopefully we can print our fucking way out of this shit so I can collect profit and put it into crypto.

>>19762928
>no name retard goes from bearish to bullish
Guaranteed crash.

>>19762774
>>19762865
but when are you selling? in july the earnings reports come out. in october they lay off.

or are you holding out for that Thanksgiving/Christmas travel boom?

>>19762928
>bobos, when will you come out of your camp and join the bulls?
Maybe in Q3 2021.

Is the market open today?

>>19762948
NEW

>>19762948

>>19762948

>>19762865
I'm only trading on my own countries stocks, which sucks because there's only one airline that you can trade on now that virgin went belly up, and it's not worth buying desu.

$20USD per trade through my platform for US stocks, not worth it imo

>>19762910
Die

>>19762945
SAVE is the only airline not furloughing. If I had others I’d sell like two weeks before October first.

just ate an entire bag of smartfood popcorn

ALL HAIL THE 5 YEAR CRAB. BOW TO HIS MAGNIFICENCE

>>19762134
What a beautiful couple.

Anyone here holding BB (Blackberry)? Inb4 cellphones etc....they havent made a phone in years. The pivoted to cybersecurity and software a few years back, have a bunch of defense contracts, pretty much everything has their QNX operating system at its core. Hugely undervalued and nobody pays any attention to them yet they just keep chugging along making deals and putting their software everywhere. I figure worst case scenario they got bought out and ill turn my money into more money. Whenever I have a few spare dollars I buy more.

>>19762992
I can't make money in a crab,
only up or down.

>>19762910
Investing as a non American in the US is fucking easy. I needed a passport and a phone bill. Took like one day with my broker.

>>19762992
THE FÜHRER SNIBS
WE SNAB

>>19763039
Just sell options outside the crab's range.

>>19763072
I'm not a burger and my broker doesn't support options, been meaning to find a broker that supports it that doesn't require shit ton of papers just to get an account.

>>19762822
The dollar is so influential that they know the world more or less has to obey

So how long am l gonna be bagholding IVR at $7?

>>19763105
just use robinhood, they dont give a shit

>>19763260
Nvm I can't read, you're not in the US so good luck I guess

>>19763231
Jesus you bought the top.
how much did you buy?
Learn options, you might be able to break even.

>>19762863
Not at all anon. Hold it