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Why? What does this mean? Did they discover something?

I have a PhD too but I don't look like Rasputin had an accident with a businessman
Dude needs to shave

>>19752197
>>19752212
>>19752294
It’s happening.

>>19752348
/biz/ will ignore the literal Fountain of Youth to focus on scamcoins

>>19752197
That’s a woman

Why stock no move then?

>>19752294
only trannies and faggots shave, which one are you?

Remember reading about him in esquire 2 decades ago, glad he’s still at it.

>>19752708
>Aging? Never heard of her

>>19752762
It shot up 12% this morning when the press release dropped. This stonk is a gem, this company might save your life one day and it’s under $1 fucking dollar

>>19752847
It'll be reserved for elites and their pets which is why nobody here gives a shit. It will make Aubrey very, very wealthy indeed.

de Gray is about to become de White

>>19753058
Kek

>>19752197
sucks that he's gonna be dead long before to witness it

>>19752847
I'm thinking about buying 500€ just as a longshot gamble.

Actually, just checked, and they used to be at 5$, how the fuck wasn't this shit wiped?

>>19752776
>only trannies and faggots shave, which one are you?

>>19753540
If this universal pluripotent stem cell therapies company is worth even a fraction of 1 present day mediocre pharmaceutical company, it will 10x.
$500 -> $50,000

>>19753574
The company is barely 3 years old. You’re looking at its IPO price, when it was being hyped with no tangible product. They did have the research papers, the theoretical / lab work aspect, but it’s only now in 2020 that they are preparing to begin manufacturing. See >>19752348

>>19753684
*100x, not 10x

>>19753684

500*10 = 50000 ?

Opinion discarded

>>19752197
that guy is frowned upon as fuck in the scientific community
I got scrutinized in my previous lab for referencing his institute and work. be careful dumbshits

t. bioinformatician who studies ageing

>>19753852
I've heard that, but I'd like to know why.
In stuff like Physics and Mathematics it's really easy to spot the crackpots. I've heard that in this guy's case it was just because he made controversial claims about reversing aging in the next few years.

OP, why isn't that rasputin fucker listed on their website?
https://www.agexinc.com/management-mike-west/

>>19753896
well
he himself never published any important discoveries in anti aging, and his formation is specialized in unrelated stuff such as artificial intelligence and what not. the scientific community heavily dislikes people who get famous in the media but never publishes anything significant. in the last few years his institute managed to get serious funding, infrastructure and researchers though, but as far as I'm concerned they never made any serious breakthroughs. as you mentioned, his claims about aging were very exaggerated with no evidence to back it up. there is also his beard. I don't see how this stem cell stuff is any different from other stem cells available in the market besides his own hype (although I'm a bioinformatician and know very little wet lab). if the idea is to sell these stem cells for therapy and not lab experiments this has everything to go to shit because you can't "treat" aging as it is not a disease and I don't think any doctor will
risk his/her medical license to treat anyone with that untested crap.

there is also the beard.

>>19754067
>>19753896
moreover, these anti aging institutes are infested with scammers and this market is very risky. there were many companies who tried to sell shit that "makes your telomeres longer" but there is also evidence it can cause cancer. it did not increase lifespan of rodents and the chief scientist had cancer and tried to hide it. years algo a company called Elysium tried to hype a shitty drug they claimed to be anti aging and nobody in any lab was able to reproduce the claims in rodents (and that was already being sold for human use). they got 80 million fucking dollars invested and the company went to shit. they got nobel prize winners backing it up lol

after that anti aging research got heavily demonetized and ruined it for everyone including my previous lab. it is possible de grey is doing it all over again with that bs hype

>>19754181
btw it makes me fucking furious when fuckers like these get millions of dollars just by hyping bullshit and publishing forged and unreproduceable results while I but my ass in the lab for years and make something useful and I'm paid pennies, don't get email replies from big labs even publishing important articles while trying to ride the stock market rollercoaster

fml

>>19754067
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>>19753896
>>19753852
“Paradigm” research trannies are the worst, basically rehashing the same old techniques over and over for very little progress, and in this field specifically Pharma paths, then they try to shit on the researchers doing actually novel research, in this case biotech (for no other reason than the tranny researchers themselves didn’t have the balls, so to speak, to try and break the paradigm). I’m trying to make money here, and it sure ain’t gonna be done with single molecules

>>19753984
He isn’t really one of the main people running the company, he just looks cool and advises them on technology routes. His actual job is running the non-profit SRF

>>19754181
Curing ageing is one of the oldest rackets in the game. As science improves the subtlety of the scam improves as well.

>>19754331
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>>19754067
I think the up-and-coming view on aging nis that it IS a disease that can be treated (partially) though. This by credited researchers.

>>19754334
to be very honest there are a few therapies in quality studies that are able to improve both health and lifespan in rodents but testing in humans is nearly impossible of course. many of these drugs however are not profitable as they can be manufactured by any company or are repurposed drugs. there is also a lot of politics going on and many good labs do not colaborate with each other. applying this field is very complicated and I'm almost regretting my life decisions

>>19754406
true, but go convince the fucking FDA about that so you can run clinical trials

>>19754459
I was just saying it because you were using that as an argument to discredit these guys. I'm neutral, I just want info.

>>19754434
>still talking about single molecule drugs abs if they mean literally anything
>shits on biotech
>b-but mug paradigm
>btw I regret everything
Literally not surprising

>>19754483
i'm not discrediting because aging is not a disease, I'm just mentioning the market problems of applying it since legally you can't run clinical trials for something that officially is not considered a disease yet

>>19754067
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>>19754331

What do you think about Venter's outfit, Human Longevity Inc?

>>19754487
single molecules can't cure aging but significantly increase the lifespan mate

using multiple treatments (which includes surgeries, transplants, stem cells and multiple drugs) at the same time is a reality very far away even in mice

>>19753772
lmao

>>19754552
I don't know that company, sorry mate
it seems to be a personalized medicine based on genome sequencing company which is not exactly my field

at best they will tell you what kinds of aging associated diseases you are prone to and there are many others that do this, but I have no idea of the market value if that is what you are asking

>>19754434
>to be very honest there are a few therapies in quality studies that are able to improve both health and lifespan in rodents
What are the drugs?

>>19754904
or therapies, I guess. I know calorie restriction is one. Any others?

>>19754547
Also why are you so dead set on ageing not being a disease? I agree the whole anti ageing scene is scammy as fuck but I agree with the underlying premise. There are animals that are able to not age ever, like hydras. So it seems like a degenerative disease of compounding failures of various systems in the body which is widespread because the evolutionary process has use for organisms after they've shat out some offspring so it doesn't select for resiliency against these degenerations. In that sense ageing is in the same boat as any other late-onset disease like alzheimers, parkinsons, schizophrenia, etc. There's just no selective pressure to get rid of it.

>>19754921
look up the National Institute of Health and druage database

I don't want to recommend anything specific and be responsible for you killing yourself lol

besides those drugs there are a few surgeries such as visceral fat removal, pineal gland transplants in the thymus, bone marrow transplants and testosterone replacement at old age that also seems to work

CR works but the side effects and not eating are not worth it imo

>>19755043
I don't study hydras particularly because they life cycle is incredibly different from ours, they go through different lifestages and it is argueable if it is even the same living being.

whether aging is a disease or not is pure semantics and I was just refering to what the FDA thinks. what they think is important so you are allowed to run clinical trials. getting approval for human trials to treat something that is not a disease and thus risking their health for treating "nothing" is very difficult.

treating an aging associated disease is completely different from treating aging itself. it is arguable they are all caused by aging, but legally it is a different story. this might change in the next few years, but not now

>>19752197
This is the ultimate bioshit meme stock. I like it.

>>19755100
I mean, I've already run the meme circuit of antiaging drugs, I've done resveratrol, C60, NAD+ precursors, berberine and aspirin, epitalon. The only big one I haven't gotten around to is rapamycin and I sure won't touch it now anyways since it's an immunosuppressant and I don't want to get the coof.

I was just wondering if there were any under the radar ones I'd missed. I'm not super keen on running out and downing a bottle of whatever thinking it'll take 10 years off of me if I megadose. I'm just garden variety longecity-tier retarded, not collossally retarded.

>>19752587
it will just be a cream made out of goy foreskins
buying bill gates bags for sure

>>19752197
Looks like he desperately needs his own product

>>19753000
nice

>>19755466
i can't believe you took all of that shit

if you are willing to take it do it in your 50's, as it has effects at old age even if you only take it for a while. but i wouldn't take it because it has the worse side effects of all of those combined.

you might be missing out fisetin

>>19752197
YES
Thank god for this man
Thank god for richard heart
Donate HEX profits to the SENS foundation
We're all gonna live forever!!