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give them 1 week

why don't the cops just move in and arrest everyone?

>>19668702
>why don't the cops just move in and arrest everyone?
cops arent allowed to do anything in portland/seattle

>>19668234
They're already out of food and being run by a warlord.
https://twitter.com/RHGR/status/1270814875200245760

How long do the batteries on a Nintendo Switch last?

>>19668702
They tried and got BTFO of their own precinct

>>19668702
fuck the police boot licker

>>19668742
Kek

>he hasn't bought CHAZ
lmaoing @u

>>19668702
fuck the police coming straight from the underground

>>19668234
>>19668898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sawcKec25pY

>>19668702
I don't think you need to use the force and waste resources, just lock them in and let them run out of everything.
They can't grow stuff, water is scarce, they have no medicine or hospitals, they have no police, they can't even shit or piss.
>>19668729
Based warlord kang.

>>19668898
Public Enemy was always the better band

>>19668817
Cope

>>19668998
lick

>>19668234
Even after it crashes and burns, just wait for when they make a Hollywood biopic glorifying it.

>>19670050
kys

>>19668234
important question no one is asking. What is the age of consent in the Seattle autonomous zone?

why doesn't someone create an erc20 token for them? they can "convince" local businesses to accept it and receive crowdfunding from all over the world. biz making it as a trojan horse would be super comfy and I'm surprised no one mentioned anything similar

>>19670050
Im going to use this every time a MIGAtard supports police

>>19668234
kek white people just totally hijacked the black power sign

how does this make you feel niggers?

>>19668963

They'd never run out. people would just airdrop things to them. it would last forever until stopped by force

>>19670383
Circle one white person in that photo. I’ll wait

>>19668234
also a reminder that a good 80% of the people in this photo are in the food industry

D O
N O T
T I P

>>19670398
this even looks like one of you fucking nerds

>>19670383

it has a long history

>one of you is the unsung hero with the detonator
>I give it back to you the people!

>>19668702
They're being prevented from acting by the government. It's full Marxism up there. I just hope they seal them in and ignore their complaints when they start getting raped and murdered as always used to happen with the hippie communes. Let them learn why they need police.

>>19668702
i hope they let it go for a while, i've gotten some good laughs out of these retards so far

>>19668234
>How long
It already happened
this is their attempt at farming btw

>>19670497

>>19668702
never interrupt your enemy

I figured more libertarians would be all over this opportunity. Finally a place where the child can consent

>>19670497
>so white boy... ya tellin' me ya can't grow free food uh?
>>t-trust me, i did all i could!
>Aoww, da boss will no be happy 'bout dat!
>>wait, WAIT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? NO PLEASE NO!

>>19668234
they already ran out of food due to the homeless taking it, they think they can grow crops by placing an inch of soil on top of cardboard, and they've been taken over by a black warlord. its day 3, lmao.

>>19670649
>so white boy... ya tellin' me ya don't got no feed & seed
>wait, CHUCK, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? NO, CHUCK, PLEASE NO!

>>19670780
sneed

>>19670398
The cope levels on you morons is next level
>I-if I pretend to be blind..

Imagine owning real estate in this zone lol. I couldnt sleep at night

Honestly a mass shooting in that zone right now, today, would make world history. It would be one of the more interesting massacres in history.

>>19668963
the city brought in port a potties for them

>>19670924

>>19670449
my kikedar went out he chart while looking at this pic

>>19668234
Why don't they just move to Cuba?

>>19670386
How would it last forever, it would basically be a meme of homeless people living there.

So this is supposed to be an experiment in anarchism/socialism yet these people produce nothing? Where are the means of production being seized?

They're just bougie kids leaving their "commune" to buy things then coming back and sharing them with each other. That isn't socialism/anarchism

Also they still have private property, all the buildings in the Chaz have remained in the hands of their owners and the CHAZites obviously aren't going to be seizing them anytime soon

Gay LARP.

>>19668729
didnt knew they are making idiocracy 2020

>>19670477

>>19670867

This is all making me reconsider buying rental properties in the inner city area where I live

>>19670728
have to say its better than most shows on netflix

>>19668614
fpbp

>>19670497
Oh shit I thought the average person was better at figuring out how to sustain themselves, but this!? They have technology and this is what they mustered up!? Oh how I overestimated them. If I was sent into the wilderness not to return for a decade I'd outlive them with the supplies brought in that would help me sustain before setting up an actual campsite before transitioning into a homestead AND I'm not even an outdoors person! Yet they're in a city and will likely dry out the food supply in less than a week!

>>19671239
Assuming they even attempt to scavenge...

>>19668234
FUCK NIGGERS

>>19670497
I wonder how much food is in that fat girls backpack. it looks full.

>>19668234
I'm imagining the smell and it's really fuckin bad

>>19668234
Why are they so replete with tattoos? The density is clearly above the average.

>>19668234
i'd be more impressed if they started tilling the land instead of larping as anarchists

>>19668234
god damn everyone in this pic is completely unfuckable, they look like they smell like shit

>>19668234
Imagine the smell

>>19668234
They invited all the homeless in Seattle to come in and the homeless took all the food and left. They're now begging for food online. Im not even joking

>>19668234
>not a single white person in sight
Damn so this is what third world is like...

>>19668234
The segregated themselves

>>19672524
My God please share the link so I can spread it

>>19668234
left arm must get awfully stiff, being a rebel all day
>>19668702
you uh, see that building behind them?

>>19668234
what do you think it smells like, lads?

>>19670497
Figures that there is not a single farmer amongst these Leftist urbanites.

>>19668234
I love how elites plan to make a race issue protest backfired.
Now they are kinda like occupy wall street movements.
Occupy Wall Street was exactly the reason why these white cis men evil begin with, to divide people

>>19670140
Um, 0 i guess?

Perfect opportunity for some special forces to get some urban combat training.

>>19668234
ARPA AUTONOMOUS MPC.

>>19674767
Navy Seals?
when you need 'special forces' to clear that gang of ragamuffins, vagabonds and stoners, you already lost

>>19668729
>tweet of reddit posts

Who says biz isn't breaking new grounds

>>19673236
smells like teen spirit. and ripe garlic mmmmmm

how many beers anon?

Historically all anarchist communes end up imploding after afew weeks. The only way to sustain an stable anarchist commune is with a religious belief binding them and, paradoxically, racial homogeneity.

This will collapse when they finish all the vegan meat substitutes and onions milk.

>>19668234
so you're telling me a the only dude with weapons is now the king of this "autonomous one" which has a bunch of white ass nigger kikes preaching for what again?

This world is fucking retarded. Thanks just sold 100k

>>19674866
Exarchia has lasted for a while, but they started when Greece failed

>>19674866
>end up imploding after a few weeks
implying Burger Authorities have that much patience (or intelligence) to wait it out. Only got this far without being Waco'd (yet) as Seattle. Some general will have them on his radar tho, trigger finger twitching

>>19674916
Christania (Copenhagen) - 50 years plus and still (afaik) going. Keypoint non-murican, I s'pose

>>19674916
>Exarchia
I don't know if Exarchia would count. They aren't cut off from Athens, i.e. they are not autarquic or free or whatever. They would be like... the intellectual neighborhood or something, right?

>>19674947
>Christania
Exactly, this is more like it. And again, racial homogeinity.

>>19668614
It’s been one week

>>19668998
Cope

>>19670924
This pussy has never left the suburbs in its entire life

>>19675183
Its been 4 days

>>19668817
>>19670050
imagine being a state worshiper and calling other people boot lickers

>>19670924
Fuck off CIA

>>19670497
100% organic

>>19672524
rofl you cant make this shit up

>>19670924
>>19675693
So is this.

>>19675693
>>19670497

My favorite part of their farming attempt is that they didn't even attempt to break up the ground, let alone till it up. Like between all the people involved, not a single one of them even has a relative that had a garden plot. There is literally no one in their lives, socially or otherwise, that has grown something in the soil even once, and thus they don't even have peripheral gardening knowledge. This is incredible to me. I'm a STEM fag getting a doctorate and even I've tilled and planted gardens before. They're just dropping their nursery plants into 2 inches of potting soil laid on top of cardboard, because they're too lazy to even hoe away the grass and weeds from the top soil. On the off chance that even one of those plants survives for a week, if the sun comes out for even a single day they're going to have to break up the soil around the roots. They won't of course.

We are seeing in real time why communist nations never have any thing to eat. The 'intelligentsia' are 10 degrees of separation from anyone that's ever produced food, and believe that all you have to do is drop seeds into magic dirt. An actual African-tier thought process.

>>19668702
Because they aren’t white. They would have ventilated the “white nationalists” if they had done something like this

>>19676462
>mfw we get to watch communism be tried again in an era of massive internet proliferation and shitpost about it
this decade is going to be amazing desu

>>19668234
gayonymous

>>19668234
Shit is already hitting the fan
They started asking for protection money after one day
https://komonews.com/news/local/police-make-allegations-of-intimidation-extortion-inside-capitol-hills-autonomous-zone
They have a warlord
Reports of rapes, theft and other violent crimes
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1271291958296604675
https://clips.twitch.tv/SuaveArtisticKathyKeyboardCat
Chasing people out for not being woke enough or something
https://youtu.be/qC9gwJjcYT4

>>19668702
Fuck off nigger, go lick some boots

>>19677780

>>19677800
Nice digits

>>19668817
>boot licker

>>19670221
make a BLM erc20

>>19670924
don't you have a mortar thread to make on /k/, see eye hey

>>19676462
they are trying to copy a youtube video of some dude who does a 'no dig' type of crop

>>19671120
it's mostly an "experiment" in anarchism, plenty of commies find this just as funny as you do.
i find it strange that they act like this commune is literal anarchist utopia. this stuff can co-exist with police if you've got someone who is willing to finance the property. communes like that existed all over europe 20 years ago (given that most people in the CHAZ don't directly live there), and they still do in places today. the state typically doesn't give much of a shit if you're not doing anything outragously illegal (although i will admit that it might be different in the usa).

>>19675183

>>19668234
Cheap real estate incoming.

>>19670497
How can we make them fall for the indoor ranching meme?

>>19668234
>captures a city block
>meanwhile pol:Yall find george floyds porn tape yet?

>>19672822
>>19675886
Here you go

I say just let them larp until they get bored and the other 99.999% of the population stops caring. Should happen in less than 2 weeks.

>>19668234
you really should just let all of this escalate

Why is seattle still allowing chaz to have power? They should cut it off since it's a hostile country.

>>19678775
>I say just let them larp
So your okay with them raping people
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1271291958296604675
or how about extorting businesses
https://komonews.com/news/local/police-make-allegations-of-intimidation-extortion-inside-capitol-hills-autonomous-zone

>>19678811
I mean it's all the worst people getting exactly what they asked for so yes.

>>19676462
>When the sun comes out
>Seattle
They might be fine.

I think there is a method for this. My in laws grow pumpkin and watermelon and plant in shallow top soil and then replant the strong ones.

>>19668234

This time murricans cant send autonomous drones and drop some bombs on innocent plebs, because its their own people. GET KEK'D

>>19678884
Those are inhabitants of the hostile nation of CHAZ. They aren't Americans anymore.

>>19678970
Black block are all tough until the guns come out, then its woah bro dont shoot me, Im not a bad guy. Check his hand positions, to me that says blast that fucker.

>>19678811
Yes. It's Seattle, whoever they are they probably deserve and even desire it.

>>19679031
bro he already shot one guy before he opened his car door, thats why the medics are at the bottom the screen, he went ham like an iraqi war veteran boss

>>19679031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxeNxaJqPbE

for /biz/ viewing pleasure

>>19670497
Chinese peasantry at least had some degree of experience growing crops and yet Mao still managed to plunge the country into literal cannibalism. Cannot imagine how bad things will get if these retards get to take full blown socialism for a spin.

>>19670521
>enemy

>>19678970
>>19679031
Both sides are just retarded, one using mob violence and explosives, the other using guns and knifes.
Those people like to think with their pee pee.

>>19668234
Theyre making a stand by raising a fist to the sky. Just need WWE announcers to call the action. Stupid fucking libtards never change just like the cities run by them for the past 6 decades.

>>19670497
Aw so cuuuuuttte. Too bad those plants will take months before any vegetables appear. #Plantlivesmatter

>>19670362
enjoy the taste of nigger boots

I don't care strongly one way or another, I just think it's a neat situation and want to share in the shitposting.

>>19679122

>HOLD THE LINE

>>19668742
>kek
Kek
Kek

>>19678472
Ah I see you've fallen for the "indoor ranching is a meme" meme

Me? I'm working on expanding my fishery to increase space utilization

>>19670221

There are no local businesses. Everything was looted or burned to the ground

>>19679755
Checked
Micro greens are actually wayy more nutrient dense and only take 7 - 10 days to grow to the point you harvest them. Not that these fools will know wtf they're doing

>>19670728

Modern communists can't even get through a weekend without a dictator coming into power.

>>19670497
this has to be a joke

>>19679154
chinese just look for an excuse to eat other chinese
many such cases

Lmao

>>19668234
Just carpet bomb Capitol Hill. Problem solved.

>>19670497

holy fucking based.

why the fuck do I still live in yuropooria? fuck my lyfe

>>19680430
Raz is fucking based

>>19675693
I never thought this place would make me feel genuinely sad for a pepper.

>>19680039
yah brotherin i cant get over our based biz guy thats shilling hold the line now, is this now a biz kino clip

>>19668702
pig lover faggot

>>19681957
how's the taste of that nigger anus you cleaned with your tongue.

>>19681957
kneel

>>19680499
keked and saved

>>19674947
>>19674999
>Christania
You mean that drug hellhole still hasn't been reclaimed by the authorities? Jesus, I pity whoever still lives there.

kek
they are more delusional than us crypto fags

>>19682325
more like this

reminder

>>19682312
between Christiana (where hard drugs have been banned forever) and, say, a street corner in Baltimore - I'd take my chances with the Danes, tx.
>pity whoever still lives there
for free in the middle of Copenhagen? The residents maybe not all as dumb and drug-addled as you think

>>19668234
what a shitty looking group of people

>>19682976

These are the people calling you an incel on the internet

>>19668234
>>19682976
I agree, like what the fuck.
Everybody is a soft blob. Pathetic.

>>19675339
One one hand the leftist ideology boiled down is tied to support for a strong state. On the other hand these citizens are arming themselves and trying to fight state repression, yet right wingers and surprisingly 2A supporters are calling for the state to come in and crush them. I'm thinking its not as black and white as most want to believe. Perhaps the idea that liberals are big govt is as outdated as conservatives wanting small govt. Certainly seems so at this point. The free for me but not for thee idea is pretty rampant in conservative circles and its on full display at the moment.

>>19683306

No, right wingers are just realists who understand that robbing, looting, and rioting are patently dangerous and counterproductive behaviors that should be met with police force. We aren't anarchists even if we're for a small state. That's like a basic job of the state: keep law and order, like building roads and maintaining firefighters. Christ. There is nothing hypocritical in wanting the cops to do their jobs and protect businesses and people.

>right wing
>virgins posting memes from their moms basement
>occasional shooting, committed by some incel

>left wing
>autonomous zones
>riots
>killing cops
>impeaching

somehow the tables turned quite quickly

>>19682942
You're not even allowed to build there anymore. There's no future in that place, I would rather live in Baltimore yeah. AT least there there's still the chance of meeting someone who isn't a loser.

>>19683347
I'm glad someone level headed responded. So ive been on the Raz guys twitter. Hes claiming in this tweet https://twitter.com/RazSimone/status/1270033061321699330 "A man just ran over protestors, hopped out & shot one of our young black men. This is the 5th time I’ve witnessed this. Today I will be buying barricades to protect us protestors 24/7 from threats of this nature."

Now if this is true, is he or any member of that community wrong for taking up arms? I like guns but am not nuanced in the dogma of the 2A camp so maybe you can speak to this. Isnt part of the point of 2A for the populace to protect themselves from a tyrannical government? If you are a 2A supporter, how do you reconcile this?

>There is nothing hypocritical in wanting the cops to do their jobs and protect businesses and people.
Well, from what ive seen, theres been a lot of police brutality against peaceful protesters (the looters and rioters should be met with force imo). And its been getting worse over the years, police in past protests have certainly used unsavory tactics in the past but it seems they are really taking the gloves off this time around. Personally, I'm sort of neutral on protests in general but the police response has me pretty shocked. This is the first time in living memory that ive seen cop cars ram into groups of people. So from my perspective, the police arent doing their jobs insofar as upholding the constitution anyway.

>>19683625
>Now if this is true, is he or any member of that community wrong for taking up arms? I like guns but am not nuanced in the dogma of the 2A camp so maybe you can speak to this. Isnt part of the point of 2A for the populace to protect themselves from a tyrannical government? If you are a 2A supporter, how do you reconcile this?

Not just a tyrannical government, but their fellows as well, which tend to be much more dangerous (look at cop killings vs normal homicide levels). If I live in that area of Seattle as a normal person I'm not as worried about the police, who aren't doing anything, than the people who just took my block over and are probably mentally ill and radicalized.

> Well, from what ive seen, theres been a lot of police brutality against peaceful protesters (the looters and rioters should be met with force imo). And its been getting worse over the years, police in past protests have certainly used unsavory tactics in the past but it seems they are really taking the gloves off this time around. Personally, I'm sort of neutral on protests in general but the police response has me pretty shocked. This is the first time in living memory that ive seen cop cars ram into groups of people. So from my perspective, the police arent doing their jobs insofar as upholding the constitution anyway.

You're alluding to out of context snippets of video on twitter (and elsewhere) meant to deliberately frame cops as being needlessly mean and aggressive and protestors as heckin good boys? Listen, I have on reservations about the police, I know a lot of them are dickhead types, but they don't fuck around for no reason. These looters do. We've seen what's actually happening: entire blocks of businesses toasted and looted, seething anger from the protestors, multiple cops shot dead in cold blood. The police exist as a natural, reactionary counterforce for the violent mob, they aren't an arbitrary construct. As such, they somewhat reflect the behavior of that mob.

>>19683679

cont.

As such, if your society is full of violent fuckers who turn certain neighborhoods into 3rd world tier warzones, you're going to get moody, belligerent cops who see force as the only way to keep you in line. No anon, I'm not as afraid of the police as I am of the people who CREATED the modern police force in the US.

>>19678093
look at that hair cut. u no he sucks dicks

>>19668718
Also, there are signs saying no cops allowed.

>>19683306
Maybe if defunding the police meant opening up the way for private security firms and a reduction in taxes more conservatives would be for it. As it stands they still want your tax dollars, they just aren't going to be used to protect you from rapists and murderers. You retards don't even understand the small government position, the point is a smaller more focused government with less tax dollars. If I am being forced to pay taxes to the US govt, then I may as well have those taxes used to build tanks and crush rioters. Lower taxes first then talk about leftwing/libertarian unity.

>>19683679
>Not just a tyrannical government...
>You're alluding to out of context....
Grouping my response here, I feel they are related. So I'm sure youve seen the videos by now, you say they are out of context snippets, but that seems pretty unfair. Theres countless videos of cops not bouncing their rubber rounds off the ground first (they are supposed to so that the rounds dont hit with too much force). Footage of reporters being met with force (big no no). Even footage of a person shoved into a fire while photographing it (just one video though). While its easy to say these are just out of context snippets, the sheer amount of them is telling and I'm having a hard time giving the police the benefit of doubt. If it was a handful of videos, sure id tend to agree that we dont have enough context but when theres hundreds, it casts some doubt as to the fairness of it all. Personally, idgaf about what these people, or most protesters want, but I do care that they have a right to peaceably assemble and air their grievances without being met with undue force from the state. So are the police really doing their jobs? Are they meant to be a counterforce to anything but illegal activities not protected by the constitution or law in general? I think the media is spinning this whole thing to make it seem like protesters = looters and rioters. And this autominous zone is a pretty easy target for that narrative. But from their perspective, theyre being hunted down and from everything ive seen, without saying they are right in that perspective, I'm not surprised that they're trying to defend themselves.

>I'm afraid of those who created the modern police force.
Are you talking about the deep state or?

>>19684200

It's chaos dude. Thousands and thousands of people are protesting and rioting nationwide. Sure you see the cops response, you don't see the thing that begot that response. There would be no police response without the original illicit action.

They aren't peaceably assembling. They can cherrypick all of the "meany pants police" videos they want, the images of burnt down city blocks, looters, mayhem, and dead cop bodies don't disappear.

>Are you talking about the deep state or?

No, check it out. Cities used to be intolerably violent.

>>19684257
Besides, the cold harsh truth is, if you want to be noticed in a system, you MUST FIT IN. This means: behavioral standards, a certain dress code, maybe even a lingo, and a willingness to progress. If you rise up and start rioting, you will do nothing but reinforce the already existing stereotype that you aren't willing to do shit for yourselves but will rather use force and aggression to get what you want. A racist person looks around and sees racists everywhere. Reciting hundreds years old hurts can have two reasons: you still want revenge, or you can't get over your problems and cry for help like a child for the parents, to help them solve your problems. You should let segregated places have their own autonomic systems with their own police and healthcare to solve their own problems if they know so well how to do it, instead of fighting and taking the brunt of the political inertia that's already hitting you with full force.

>>19678629
>”anything to help us eat“
>bring a load of plastic knives and forks

>>19668702
If this was right wingers doing this, the media would have gone mad and this place would have been waco’ed already

>>19678629
brin s.OY

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>>19684393

I'm really not opposed to letting them set up their own insane experiment zones like this so they can meet reality face to face, as long as its contained and the rest of the sane, productive population doesn't have to deal with it. The Baltimore police force took a year off active enforcement after Freddie Grey and shit went south quickly, it's now the murder capital of the US on a per capita basis.

>>19684257
>There would be no police response without the original illicit action.

I'm not so sure about that, cops are just people after all who make mistakes and as you said its chaotic. But theres really no reason for a police cruiser to ram a group of people that arent violent. The vids of cruisers raming into actual violent groups of people sure, that can sort of be justified if the cops had no other way to get out of there safely. But what of the videos where the group isnt violent? Thats just fucked up imo and has no place in America.

>they arent peaceably assembling
I could make the argument that youre cherry picking here too but I wont. I think that since its nation wide, global in fact, that its pretty much impossible to paint with broad strokes here and we need to look at each incident in that light or we'll fall into a trap of absolutes.
>check it out
Yea totally agree here that crime rates are getting better. And maybe I'm missing your point entirely but counterpoint to what I think youre implying here, if crime is getting better, why is the state so heavy handed and police para militarized? I suppose you could argue that that is whats causing the crime rate to drop but is that something we want in America? For people to be kept in line by the threat of undue force from the state? Seems like a slippery slope into a more authoritarian government. But more to the point, that crime rates are dropping, does that mean everything is just fine and dandy? As long as crime rates are down, should we dismiss protests in general?

>>19684505
if a place is 80% or more lived by minorities, let them have authority. the rest moves away quickly. support them with money and let corruption do the rest.

>>19684505
Ah well, blacks tried this in Tulsa, became so prosperous that the white burned the city down so I'm not sure, historically, that its a viable option.

>>19684686

Oh right, the Tulsa meme that I'm seeing blacks regurgitate CONSTANTLY everywhere, the thing that happened 100 years ago. Totally indicative of the reality today. As for me, I'm still bitching about British oppression and persecution causing a deadly famine in Ireland.

>>19684686
even better, living together seems
to be nothing but a struggle for power, so this is still a better option

>>19684655

>Yea totally agree here that crime rates are getting better. And maybe I'm missing your point entirely but counterpoint to what I think youre implying here, if crime is getting better, why is the state so heavy handed and police para militarized? I suppose you could argue that that is whats causing the crime rate to drop but is that something we want in America? For people to be kept in line by the threat of undue force from the state? Seems like a slippery slope into a more authoritarian government. But more to the point, that crime rates are dropping, does that mean everything is just fine and dandy? As long as crime rates are down, should we dismiss protests in general?

Violent crime rates went down because we cracked down on it by ramping up cops and enforcement. "Tough on crime" was a bipartisan, super popular platform from 1970-2000.

What happens when you get soft on crime? Well, crime goes back up. What do you really want there citizen.

>>19679236
>rotten marxist revolutionary LARPer trannies are my friends

>>19684709
No need to get snarky here. But how is this not relevant? If the brits were oppressing the irish, would you not draw on history to illustrate that the brits have always largely been hostile to the irish? I think you're trying to use "it happened 100 years ago" to separate that from todays continued oppression. Thats a pretty low effort argument, man.

>>19668817
>bootlicker

Mirror mirror on the wall...

>>19684833

No it isn't. When was the last time a white mob attacked a black community? Furthermore, how can you extrapolate one incredibly isolated event, so isolated that it continues to be held up as the "defining example" of white oppression this much later, to the rest of modern America? It's beyond silly.

The majority of America's Irish population came here fleeing outright persecution and famine that killed 1 million people, not that much earlier by your own frame of time reference. As it turns out if you characterize your present by the past you can always paint yourself as the victim. I'm responding to a low effort deflection with a low effort argument.

>>19684819
Sure I see your point, but if the cops are lowering crime rates by getting equipped and cracking down on crime often in very unconstitutional ways and in the cases where the excessive force is codified, are we not on a slippery slope to a poloce state? I'll ask you the same question, what do you want citizen?

>>19684882
Fair enough, more recently was the MOVE bombings in Philadelphia iirc, though that was much different than Tulsa. Still, its similar to Waco which seems to be a rallying cry from the right. But I digress, we'll have to disagree here but I think history is pretty relevant in general. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

>>19684884

I don't think a world where cop killings of unarmed individuals constitute 0.1% of all violent deaths in the US is "police statey" enough for me to get worried anon. I'm more worried about our high rate of violent crime in general, the thing that is 500x more likely to see me victimized, even more likely if I'm not personally committing crime. Are you more concerned about getting struck by lightning than cancer?

>>19671052
not real communism

>>19668990
>>19668898

i see your mainstream trash and raise you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXG3mdJpo2c

>>19668234
>itt people who never experienced the joys communism brings want to try it.
let them! and document it!

>>19684833
We will never forget the famine nor 800 years of oppression anon. We get along with the Brits now as neighbors and trade partners but the past will always be there.

>>19670728

It's actually great that they are doing right wing stuff like working out, growing food and arming themselves

Wont last long. They need to beg for even the basics.

>>19671120

These useful idiot groups would be the first killed if the Communists ever rose to power again

I don’t want to be that guy but why compare modern day soiboys to communists of the past? I guarantee you that no one in chaz has even read das kapital

>>19685001
Werent you just saying how crime rates have gotten better?

I think the cancer and lightning is a bad analogy. In this, cancer is crime and violent criminals, and police killings are lightning, correct? I am not particulary afraid of police brutality because I'm out in the sticks and white af. More to the point, should we not hold police to a higher standard than criminals? Why cant someone oppose police oppression and crime at the same time? Theres a huge difference between wanting a police force that doesnt violate the constitution and wanting a police force that is effective while operating within the bounds of the constitution. Which is why the videos of heavy handed police are so disconcerting. Personally, a police force like this is very unamerican. I remember when the cops were actual members of the community that youd see every day and generally felt like they were there to help. But now all thats changed despite crime rates having sunk. Something is very rotten.

>>19670728
The homeless part was actually from a fake tweet

>>19685262

>Werent you just saying how crime rates have gotten better?

Yeah. And they're still bad, especially in inner city areas. So?

> I think the cancer and lightning is a bad analogy. In this, cancer is crime and violent criminals, and police killings are lightning, correct? I am not particulary afraid of police brutality because I'm out in the sticks and white af. More to the point, should we not hold police to a higher standard than criminals? Why cant someone oppose police oppression and crime at the same time? Theres a huge difference between wanting a police force that doesnt violate the constitution and wanting a police force that is effective while operating within the bounds of the constitution. Which is why the videos of heavy handed police are so disconcerting. Personally, a police force like this is very unamerican. I remember when the cops were actual members of the community that youd see every day and generally felt like they were there to help. But now all thats changed despite crime rates having sunk. Something is very rotten.

It is a great analogy. People are entirely preoccupied with something so unlikely to happen to them that it's absurd, and are given actual routine criminality: robbery, muggings, murder, and assault, a pass. Things that are 500x-1000x more likely to happen to them. How do you not understand order of priorities? No, I'm not as worried about getting struck by lightning or eaten by a shark as I am of getting attacked or killed in the city, anon. And yes, we do hold the police to a higher standard, that already happens.

Cops haven't changed. Your perception of them has changed as the media has decided to cherrypick cases like this and turn it into a national outrage.

>>19685236

wtf haha go to work then and gather those.
pathetic leftwing sons of bitches i hope all of ya starve and spread corona in your very lines

I am however glad the lefties are doing this so that when the right wing states secede we can actually know that knowledge of basic farming is needed

>>19685262
I think that most cops now don’t feel that they are at the mercy of the people but the people are at their mercy. But then again this isn’t the 50’s anymore, enough subversion has caused the people(mainly minorities) to distrust/hate cops and for cops to distrust/hate the people(mainly minorities)

And it’s no coincidence the cops get more and more funding for weapons to fight “domestic terrorism” and whatever else.

>>19668729

>>19678093
look like german tourists to me

>>19668234
They need to start hanging white people
FUCK 12

>>19668742
lol

>>19685363
Youre missing my point. I'm arguing that crime rates have lowered because we've given police para military equipment which is indicitive that we are slipping into a police state.

You said this earlier
>As such, if your society is full of violent fuckers who turn certain neighborhoods into 3rd world tier warzones, you're going to get moody, belligerent cops who see force as the only way to keep you in line.

But now you say
>Cops haven't changed. Your perception of them has changed as the media has decided to cherrypick cases like this and turn it into a national outrage.

So which is it? It cant be both. What are you trying to say here?

Are you suggesting they might run into the same problems the system they are preach again has?

>>19685789
COMMUNISM WEHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

>>19668702
because it'll burn out.
You just ignore the problem and it'll go away.
If it really starts to become an issue you just wait for a civil war or instigate one yourself.

>>19668234
It's fucking hilarious seeing them do a communism speedrun. They are already at starving and dictators by day 4.

>>19676462
at least they re trying to move around some dirt, its a first step. some just stick to mountaintop dancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mw5ADaHyFo

>>19685839
This is just the prelude honestly, warlords and negros banding together to rise up happens all the time in south africa. By 2100 when the negro majority completely overwhelms cities such as detroit or Gary,indiana all it will take is a subversive force to stir them up and we’ll see them destroy their cities again and again. Multicultural societies just can’t work

>>19670497
The best part of that pic is how niggers will destroy that little garden for no reason, long before it provides any food.

>>19684655
Listen faggot, it's not complicated. The left is psychotic (I don't mean that as an ad hominem, I mean it literally, you are suffering from a mass psychogenic illness), your cause is inane and retarded, and if anything, the police has been much too gentle with you. Society would be much better off if you were all put down like dogs, and it's truly a pity that idiot normies don't have the stomach for it.

Now fuck off and KYS.

>>19686037
Sure thing, ya triggered snowflake.
My how unamerican you are.

>>19677766
>https://clips.twitch.tv/SuaveArtisticKathyKeyboardCat

LMAO this is poetic justice. Some basedfaggot gets his Galaxy S10+ stolen, and suddenly believes in private property and legal rights.

Just call the police faggot, oh wait, you "abolished" them hahahaha

>>19685236
>Ice
>The good kind
Meth?

>>19683306
You don't understand leftism at all. They do not actually have any real principles other than whatever gives them more power.

When leftists do not have executive power, they morph into anarchists, against the state, against the police, etc. They also become champions of free expression, religious liberty, freedom of speech so they can abuse these privileges to practice total subversion against the society that allowed them to do it it in the first place.

When leftists gain executive power, they become the most totalitarian fascists you can imagine. When their people are in control of the media, suddenly free speech has to go, and everyone against the "party line" gets banned, censored and persecuted. Religion and faith gets banned, free speech becomes hate speech, and suddenly the police gets militarized against their political enemies.

You see how it works now?

People who think only in terms of principles will be confused because the lines keep being redrawn. Leftists do NOT have any principles that aren't fluid to suit their situation. You need to think in terms of POWER only - then you will understand leftists dogma.

It's literally "rules for thee but not for me". They can not be negotiated with, they MUST be destroyed.

>>19678163
It's like Denmarks Christiania where people peddle weed and mooch off social security. Of course it cannot scale to societal level but is fun for tourists.

>>19686287
I thought you hated America?

Proving my point above. You subscribe only to principles that help your cause, and abandon them the moment they no longer advance your agenda.

>>19684257
>It's chaos dude. Thousands and thousands of people are protesting and rioting nationwide.
Right now, MILLIONS of Americans are watching tv, sitting on toilets, or high on oxy.

And you think thousands protesting is worth a damn.

>>19668817
lick those nig feet

>>19670924

>>19687259
Youre for exterminating american citizens and you have the gaul to say I hate America? Listen here you insecure peice of shit, virtually everything you said is projection. You take talking points from hateful mentally deranged anonymous echo chambers or from backwoods closet racists who hid in the shadows because their coping mechanism for how little they are is rightfully rejected by others. You and other people calling for exterminating americans are unironically whats wrong with this country and I hope your mother gets cancer. Please kill yourself and stop wasting oxygen.

>>19686287
Nothing unamerican about putting down a rabid dog. In fact, it's the humane thing to do.

>>19687589
Our grandfathers fought ideologues that killed millions. You are no better than Hitler and Mao fans. Pathetic.

>>19683605
m8 the left was always winning
The Left is winning so hard that at the height of rightist resurgence the Left started debating about whether to outright make rightism illegal, or to merely erase it completely from public perception

>>19684686
>blacks tried this in Tulsa, became so prosperous that the white burned the city down
That's not why it got burned down and you know it they burned down after when they were going to try a black man for rape a bunch of armed black people stormed the courthouse and killed 10 people and of course tensions had been building before this.

>>19687618
Our grandfathers are rolling in their graves and would wish they had lost if they could see the absolute degenerates you have become.

>>19687568
Communists are not American. They are trying to destroy the constitutional rights of America and decry it as an invalid document written by "evil slaveowning white male racists" but as soon as you are hold to the standards you yourself subscribe to, you cry foul.

Communists believe in:
Fuck the police
Fuck the constitution
Fuck the law
Fuck free speech

Now you don't get to cry when you get exterminated like the rats you are.

>>19687099
>fascist
they don't use that economy model

>>19687618
Also there was a survey that the majority would rather lose the war rather than give blacks rights.

>>19687664
Actually i didnt know this. Throw me a link so I can learn more. Anyway, historically, blacks have gotten the shaft from the moment they were brought here on slave ships. Whether they moved to enclaves or were segregated by laws, racism and often institutional, has followed them. I mean, its strange that we (not you and me) even have to argue this point. Slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, police brutality...none of these exist in a vacuum yet to racists, these are irrelevant.

>>19687714
Not every protester is a communist, retard.

>>19668234
I used to live in that area about 15 years ago. I'm long gone, but there's a QFC and Safeway nearby that area. There's also an AM/PM market there. Why don't they just go there and get their food? Can someone tell me what the hell is going on there?

>>19687692
The only thing theyd be rolling in their graves over is that some of their sons and daughters are espousing ideals of the the literal nazis they fought. Youre mental gymnastics are entertaining though. Please go on.

>>19687762
>>19687902

>>19670807
Bane?

>>19687762
This poll is from before pearl harbor.

>>19670449
Yes goy, these are (((white))) people.

>>19687848
Of course they are. Most of them are just way too fucking stupid to know it.

Modern liberalism IS cultural marxism. It's just communism 2.0 adapted to the West, using race and identity groups rather than class to divide. It's the exact same marxist dialectic and "struggle" for power.

>>19668234
Everyone dies

>>19670807
Is this real?

>>19670383
No.

If actual white people are in there, they lose their whiteness. No more privilege for them!

>>19688019
We are watching a communist cultural revolution, but this time in America.

>>19688019
>of course they are.
Holy shit you are beyond saving if you actually believe this. For one thing, 99 percent of people in this country dont know what communism is. Just as capitalism doesnt equal fascism, liberalism doesnt equal communism.

>>19683694
Police are not a reaction it's a chicken and egg problem.
>loss of wealth in low-mid class creates unhappiness
>unhappiness creates widespread crime and violence
>widespread crime and violence creates police state
>police state divides population
>divided population creates fear
>fear simmers until geopolitical issue arises
>flashpoint
>flashpoint creates martial state or revolution
>martial state or revolution promises to make lives better
>divergent split
>scenario #1: new order fails to deliver resulting in wealth destruction and/or wealth flowing upward
>scenario #2: new order improves lives initally, but grows decadent and careless resulting in wealth flowing mostly upward
>wealth loss in low-mid class causes unhappiness

Aaaand it goes on forever, notice elites dont give a fuck at any point. We're in the middle of the police state phase now, have been since 9/11, riots just brought it out in the open. Bootlickers support police. Hipsters support protesting. You are a bootlicker. Elites realize they're both retarded and exploit their emotional reactions to remain on top to ride out the next revolution and ensure it fails as miserably as all those that came before it.

>>19687821
I was wrong it was 12 killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

>>19668729
This actually went beautifully and we all hugged it out and spoke with his dad. His dad now wants me to mentor him. It was great black dialogue and men apologizing to each other, abandoning pride. We all hugged each other, cried it out and it was beautiful.

>>19688125
Thanks anon I'll read up in a bit.

>>19688065
Wakanda 4 eva!!

>>19688345

>>19688428
I already feel ashamed. Let me kneel
and give you 10.000 billion dollars for the errors people made back then.

>>19668702
remember waco? hell, remember ruby ridge?

siege = less fucking problems for everyone.

>>19688468
das rite

>>19688470

"hello this is State Farm"
"hi the cops fired a hellfire missile at my house from a predator drone"

>>19688119
based anon. Race is a red herring in this whole shit storm but is being used to fill the hole that religion dying has made

>>19684827

Hilarious that they are assuming people are guilty when they run (cell phone incident) get defend niggers when they run, support stop and frisk on those who they don't know, erect walls, and so on. These marxist faggots

>>19688636

>>19687902
Kek imagine actually believing that WWII vets would be in favor of all this pozzed shit that you love.

Hate to ruin your fantasy, but they have more in common with the literal nazis they fought than they do with you, and if they were alive today, they'd be firmly opposed to your degenerate movement.

>>19688081
There is nothing liberal about the modern left. Postmodernism/neomarxism is as illiberal as you can get.

>>19689096
Oh yes of course, ww2 vets totally would love to see the 1st amendment die. How could I be so dumb. Ok thats it, youve totally convinced me.

>>19686683
this
same thought
hope someone doses some hot shots into the mix
fucking scum

>>19689300
>implying that the proponents of political correctness/cancel culture are those in favor of free speech.
You are completely braindead. It's no wonder we're in this quandary.

>>19670924
Based

>>19689200
I agree, the left right paradigm in this country has twisted definitions compared to the rest of the world. This is true of other ideologies, american libertarianism for example is in name only. The left in this country are basically center right on the world scale and conservatives are far right. And conservatives still scream that we are going full on communist by letting people protest or have healthcare on par with the rest of the world meanwhile, far right armed white supremacy movements get tacit approval by the sitting potus while anti fascists are deemed domestic terrorists. The left is pretty much as bad as the right, everyone has their heads up there ass but the lack of self awareness that the right has is deafening. The left squabbles and trips up over definitions while the right gives support en masse to the worst among us because their predeliction to responding to an authority figure. Hence the term bootlicker, which is hilarious when you consider that that term was a prejorative against the big state supporting democrats. Good job on taking that back guys.

>>19689385
>implying that the proponents of state sanctioned repression of 1st ammendment protected activites are in favor of free speech
You are completely braindead. It's no wonder we're in this quandary

>>19689385
Also youre an idiot if you think most of the black people out in the streets give a shit about political correctness, cancel culture, or any of the other drivel disgusting new wave feminists spout from their obese yaws. They care that police are killing their sons and fathers left and right. The official left supports them and youre caveman brain associated blacks with some deep state liberal agenda. Just like those disgusting feminists, youre a walking mouthbreathing definition of a useful idiot.

Leftism is natural to people who are mentally and physically weak, because as individuals they rely on the mercy of others to survive.
Not having their pathetic lives snuffed out is not enough for them, and eventually they get the idea that they deserve privelege and power.
They use the collective weight of a countries weakest and most pathetic wastes of oxygen to achieve this.

Now ironically many of these people would be better looked after under a far right government, because strong people are capable of producing surplus value and having sympathy for lesser beings.

However as I said earlier, weak abominations are not happy with their lot in life, and take on a 'if I can't be happy, no one can!' mentality, and decide to tear it all down.

This is particularly troublesome when you have intelligent alien agitators, such as Jews, organizing and spurring on the masses.

>>19668614
Crustpunks are surprisingly resilient. If you don’t root them out early they’ll thrive. They’ve occupied C-Squat for 30 years now.

>>19689544
Nice theory but red states proportionatly recieve the most welfare. In other words, conservatives are the ones who rely on others for survival. You might say they are weak because of this. But I disagree.

>>19689578
Accurate. And Jesus C squat is fucking disgusting.

>>19689594

Name one thing of value that is produced in large American cities, where the majority of blue votes come from.

Cities are hives of bean counters, corporate headquarters, and shareholders who do not work. So it looks like these cities (and by extension states) make a lot of money, but in reality they make nothing. The 'welfare' given back to red states is just a small fraction of their stolen wages.

Now of course, the people at the top of this chain are brutal capitalists and individualists in their own lives, but promote communism for the ocean of human shit that surrounds them in American cities, which they commute through from their gated community to their place of work with armed security, but never actually set foot in otherwise.

>>19668234
no worries you faggots, we believed that freedom is the way to go and was the cause and road to happiness. this might have been true at the beginning, but the more and more normies got on board who had nothing on their mind but themselves this seemed more and more like free work done for people who think this is something they deserved in some way, and that we should serve them this knowledge and what not on some unconditional basis. 10 years from now and you won't be able to tell what's true and what's false anymore on the internet, and the world will be back to normal like the way it used to be before, and the only people you can blame for that is yourselves

>>19689676
All you have to do is look at GDP per state. Blue states heavily outproduce red states.

>>19689676
Additionally, if the real goods and value is in red states, why is the GDP so low and the residents are on welfare and opiods.....

>>19689540
>They care that police are killing their sons and fathers left and right.
Bullshit propaganda, and t he stats that counter this dumb argument are posted here a million times a day. This is entry level stuff.

>>19689454
>thinks this weak green text is actually convincing anyone other than himself
>thinks his gay "no u" argument will hold any water here
Seriously, go back. You'll feel more at home posting on Facebook or Reddit than on anonymous imageboards (that incidentally are all overwhelmingly right wing, I'm sure that the reasons for that are lost on you too).

>>19689704

You didn't refute my argument. If $1 billion of profit flows from all over the country in to 1 headquarters in a blue city, in a blue state, this is what skews the numbers. Never mind that wealth may have been produced in red states.

>>19689738
>>19689738
Ah yes the blacks in the streets protesting extrajudicial murder are actually out there for something entirely different. Kys ive probably been here longer than you.

>>19676462
i find it impossible non of them have hydroponic/growhouse experience
or maybe those that do are just there to bang crusties or slang and do not give a shit about anything other than to profit 9-5 and be normies outside otherwise

regardless looooooooooooooooool

>>19689676
>>19689544

this guy gets it
and it is not the rope
but a leading public position in the upcoming morning after

>>19689780
They're in the street protesting because they're entitled low IQ monkeys who can't function in a modern society. Kind of like (You), I'm sure.

>>19689856
or could it be that we've arrived here as a result of the undercutting of public institutions in america for the last... how many decades?

>>19689544
This dogma of power bullshit flies in the face of every available statistic measuring productivity over large numbers and fails to account for the problem of the hierarchy. How is the right-winger collectivism any less pathetic? It's not like right-wingers are farmsteading individuals declaring radical independence from their local lord. Everyone is in the same silo of power and slaves to greater force except maybe the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the US and the President of the USA - right-wingers just submit to different agents of force - the police and the military.

Those leftists organize around a different structure of power because they're less orderly, not because they're less industrious or powerful. And honestly the right should be thankful for that, if leftists were more orderly they'd simply take over your police over time.

>>19689743
Fair enough, I take your point. GDP may not be indicative of value because as you said, headquarters in blue states get to put their profits on their balance sheet and that may skew the numbers. Your original point was that liberals are weak and rely on others for survival, correct? How do you reconcile the fact that red states are more reliant on federal welfare than red states? Are they not by your definition, weak? Largely I agree with your assessment that cities siphon resources. But im a farmer myself. Still the idea that welfare recipients (mostly poor whites in red states) are weak is flat out wrong. And youre trying to paint a picture that liberals are the majority of these weak people is laughable at best.

Why have a mayor if she's just going to get a check and do nothing?

All they have to do is cut the power and water to that zone and give them small pox blankets.

1 week. 1 week is all it takes to cleanse that zone

>>19689923
This

>>19689856
Cope

>>19668234
These people accomplishes nothing except give cover for the extreme people that just want to watch the world burn.

>>19689923

Thats because the police and military in white countries were and are, our fathers. The same values instilled in the home, were the same ones adhered to in public life, the workplace, and backed up by the police force with violence as a last resort.
These forces were designed to suppress exactly the kind of thing we are seeing now.
We like them because they stood for what we feel in our hearts and minds. Order from chaos. Justice. Triumph of good and light.
These institutions worked for us, not against us. There was no need to be scared of the local policeman because you knew him, and he valued the same things you and your father did.

>>19680230
The jew fears this

>>19690033

The police force does not work for people who can't adhere to these values and do not measure up to organized Germanic civilizations. That is why it feels oppressive to them. Their very existence if offensive in these kinds of societies.

The solution of course, is to fuck off elsewhere, where human garbage is tolerated. They won't though, because surprise, orderly high quality people have a lot of resources and a high standard of living. Hanging around these people, even in a shameful existence as a second class citizen, is preferable to going elsewhere among your own.
This worlders pack up and move halfway around the world illegally, just to get near these people and eat their scraps.

>>19688428
so all the Knights were cultural appropriation, holy shit looks like it's time for reparations

>>19689910
Nice cope, but nope, pretty sure the common denominator here is niggers, who are a blight in every place in the world that they pollute with their presence.

>>19684827
that image made me sound a hearty chuckle, don't even care if it's fake or not

>>19689923
>they're less orderly, not because they're less industrious or powerful
The problem of what you're saying is that you actually need order if you want powerful industrial social structures.

It's like saying that military doesn't need discipline in order to works, it doesn't make any sense.

>>19690126
Yes, you also need progress or the shifting natural world will demolish systems that have become unwieldy through complexity or sheer growth. The right and left of modern liberalism exist in a very useful dialectic and it's unlikely either could survive without incorporating significant elements of its counterpart. This is embodied in the extremes of the distribution - radical communists are often fat, pretentious assholes who barely provide for themselves if they do at all and radical right-wingers are meth-dealing social refuse with nazi tattoos that hang around out-of-shape rednecks. The people of value in our society are a marriage of values across the aisle often down to the level of their own psychometric distribution (being representative of a gestalt of the extremes.)

It's still a mistake to call the left less powerful, it'd be like calling the wife in a non-abusive marriage less powerful. Maybe technically true by some technical distinction or conception of power, but not true with any utility.

>>19688428
I'll take things totally made up by niggers for $1000 Alex!

>>19690317
What does it matter? You're a skinny fat loser who wouldn't be a knight in any era or circumstance.

>>19668234

>>19668702
Fuck that. Surround the zone and prevent food and water from entering. Eventually they will surrender themselves, one by one.

>>19680430

>>19684882
It's not like there are any other minority groups with a history of oppression and outright genocide that have outperformed whites in America. I-is there?

>>19685935
yeah but they aren't placated with entertainment and food constantly.
This is just the average chimpout.
You kids weren't around for the occupy wall st movement but it was basically the same thing. It turns out you can't sustain a society without a lot of hardwork and none of the weekend warriors in this movement would actually die for this autonomy.
You're just a delusional /pol/tard who thinks we need a white ethnostate because you probably got bullied by a nigger.

>>19688081
You are stupid so let me break it down in terms you can understand. Modern liberalism a.k.a neoliberalism is cultural marxism.

Classical marxism where you pit economic classes against each other in order to overthrow the social order and seize power through revolution was not very successful in the West, because the working class actually saw their quality of life improve massively by a capitalist system. So the commies had to re-invent a more effective strain of marxism so they could subvert western culture and gain total political power.

So they ditched the ideas of classical economic marxism [proletariat vs bourgeois] and morphed it into cultural marxism, but kept the same dialectic of [oppressor vs victim] dynamic.

Identity groups rather than economic class.

Oppressor groups
>White, Christian, Straight, male, conservative

Victim groups
>Colored/minority, Islam, LGBTQ++, women/feminists, liberal, handicapped, etc. (keep adding groups)

This is where the concept of intersectionality comes from, which is the oppression olympics hierarchy that determines which rules apply to you. Whether you can be a racist depends on if you are white or a minority. You are judged by different moral and legal standards depending on which identity group you belong to - this is MARXISM.

Through this coalition of misfits and disaffected, they seek to overthrow the social order in order to ultimately gain total power. Your mistake is thinking that communism is an economic system and therefore if you are a capitalist you can't be a communist. Wrong.

Communism is a sociopolitical system that adheres to marxist dogma of how to subvert and control society. This is deliberately not taught in schools so nobody is any wiser. "where are all the communists?? I don't see any" - because they are hiding in plain sight.

Modern Liberalism is Communism. The iconography of the raised fist and the soviet flags is just icing on the commie cake. Fall in line or get lynched by the mob.

>>19668742

>>19686037
Yep, just snowflakes right? The right is the party of pussies, scared of everything. Scared of blacks, Muslims, gays, Jews. The real problem here is that Trump effectively convinced all you worthless beta faggots are alphas. Everything you think makes you strong makes you weak. There is a reason society left you in the gutter, because you're worthless whiney faggots afraid you'll lose your piece of the pie to someone your party told you to hate so you feel less insecure about yourselves. Back to the shadows, cucks

This is also evident in general views toward women here. They need to be owned, bought and controlled because your tiny dicks and timid, insufferable nature leads them to bounce on other cocks. The problem is always someone else, never considering that perhaps everyone can see your pathetic nature's etched into your glossy, dead eyes

>>19688019

Look at all those white women begging for bbc

>>19690600
Youre original point was that these people are unamerican communists that should be exterminated. Later you backpedal that they are just too dumb to realize they are commies and the deep state or whatever is useing them to further their power. Now youre blogposting the nuance of cultural and classical Marxism as if that has anything to do with the original point, that you are advocating the extermination of the members of a political party you disagree with. Youre human trash, so let me explain. This is America, where people are free to say and believe whatever stupid fucking garbage they want to and you especially you should be greatful for that, bootlicker.

>>19690919
Taking control of territory by terrorist martial force is an act of war.
You will now experience war.

>>19687568
> wishes cancer on people's mothers
> thinks he has the moral high ground
Maybe just go fuck yourself, small stuff.

>>19687642
> the left is winning so hard that they are desperately trying to outlaw their competition

>>19688008
Ah so before a strong hatred of the Japanese minority was added to the mix, got it.

>>19690919
This. Speaking as an anarchist, my political philosophies are simply that. I have no desire to burn capitalism to the ground or force others to share my ideals. The fact of the matter is without ethics built in, any ethos can be corrupted to disinfranchise a populous. Just like the extremist libs you like to separate from, you're a mindless tool that enables wealth retention and growth amongst the elite. You only think of your personal welfare rather than the collective. And in the end, like the libs, you want to be lorded over and tit-fed by the state. Motherfuckers been prepping for societial collapse with bunkers and provisions for years, only to storm their local statehouse when they can't get their hair did. The fuckin state of this country

Take immigration and muh wall, for example. Rather than rage against the companies that employ, enable, and shelter illegal immigrants to widen their profit margins, you blame people who are simply looking for a better life. How easy was it to shift the focus from the real criminals to people just trying to feed their families? Absolute fuckin mindless puppets

>>19690975
Just like this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge
I completely agree. This will not end well for them. And unlike the above occupation, they will likely not be pardoned by trump.

>>19691000
Oh no you totally got me there xd my mean nasty words at someone supporting literal genocide makes my other words totally dumb and meaningless I guess I'm a monster! Amazing debating skills you have. Much moral high ground. Wow.

>>19689300
I'm politically unbiased, with one subject of passion, free speech. This last half decade it has been the left bending over backwards to try to dismantle free speech. Don't get fucking airs, here.

>>19690596
Are you black

>>19691057
>The fuckin state of this country


Once social media hit the scene the only people talking about political of social issues were mentally ill fanatics of failed ideologies like fascism and communism and they crept into the collective consciousness or "narrative". People took more interest in politics because of how the governments of the world are A) introducing technological survailance and tyranny and B) how globalism and automation is destroying the wealth of societies.

So basically you have complex problems threatening the liberty and prosperity of normal people so those people go looking for answers and the only people giving out answers are mentally ill radical leftists and rightists who want power so they can kill or dominate some other group of socitey.

>>19691119
we are all running around acting on outdated ideologies that don't reflect the realities of the challenges facing us as a global community.

for instance, we have wealth inequality. Instead of working out a way for people to grow welath for themselves in a sustainable way and to understand modern economic forces and why wealth inequality exists (The reason being that with large multinational corporations, third world slave labor, and automation, most people are largely irrelevant to the economy and can't make much money. Along with the destruction of small business by corrupt tax policies) INSTEAD we have both fascists and communists saying that we can only have wealth redistribution by devolving to a state of violence and turning control over to the state.


It blows my mind how communism and fascism became the go to ideologies for people looking to get into politics.

>>19691108
I agree in a way, the rhetoric from the left about pronouns and other garbage is pretty rediculous ngl, but most of the last 5 years you mentioned, trumps been in office and this recent business of him having his men gas actual peaceful protesters so he could walk across the street to hold up a bible he doesnt read for a phtoshoot instead of waiting 15 minutes for the curfew to start should tell you all you need to know that both the republicans and democrats dont give a shit about free speech.

>>19691119
I can thoroughly agree, but do you really see any potential of stopping it? Automation will replace 80% of the American labor force in 20 years. There's no way around it. Privacy died with the Patriot act two decades ago and even Trump's cabinet wants to actively purchase and collect citizen data. Somewhere along the line, politicians were able to convince people on both sides that they gave a shit about them. The only thing these people respect is power, and if you don't have it, you're irrelevant

>>19691205
Both the left and the right are trying to play the victim with the goal of taking the rights of the opposing side.
I think this is coming about because of the power of are new technology. Because of survailance, new weaponry, and automation, basically, because of the sheer amount of POWER this new technology offers, political groups in our socitey see this as a "winner take all" scenario, rights be damned.

It's why judges are playing fast and loose with the law and major tech companies are censoring people

The stakes are incredibly high, because now the perception is that, because of tech advances, whoever can gain power now will have power forever.

>>19691111
No but I am admiring your digits.

>>19691104
>> Commies should be put down
>my mean nasty words at someone supporting literal genocide
> advocating literal genocide
He really didn't, you're just a hysterical leftie.

>makes my other words totally dumb and meaningless
Don't blame me, I didn't make you dumb, you already were and I just pointed it out.

>>19691212
I think people should focus of the things actually threatening their way of life, like automation and surveillance. But because this is the true problem and because of the power at stake, it's nearly impossible to get movements going about those issues.
We could try any number of counter measures for automation, we could outlaw it, or a novel idea I had was we could develop "mini-automation", basically create systems that automate homesteads so people could be materially secure even if socitey doesn't need them.
Universal basic income is equivalent to my automated homesteading idea, except instead of people being material independent and thus retaining a modicum of power, they would be dependent of the state for money.
Because of the corrupt nature of our elites, you can bet UBI will hit, not automated homesteading.
With a little thought we could get smart about surveillance and make people secure again in the information age, but once again, our elites, of every political party, are making power plays and are corrupt.
Basically I think the age of liberty and property is over, and the age of enslavement to the machine has begun.

>>19691265
100 percent agree with this. Still think some of the gripes people have are legitimate. And I mean from both sides of the aisle. But yea its sad, whether this is just the effects of a mad dash for power that modern tech offers or not, the people suffer at the hands of the powerful who really just flat out couldnt care less about their constituents or the landbase in general. Meanwhile you have folks so divided that they are calling for exterminating their own country men. Until recently ive never thought I would see a civil war here in the states. Unironically thinking of getting the fuck outta here before it gets worse.

>>19691205
>both the republicans and democrats dont give a shit about free speech.
Correct, but they never oppose it at the same time, so as a free speech supporter one has to jump ship a lot. But the last 5 years that ship has been the right. I certainly agree that Trump isn't some champion of free speech, but these protests are not a good measure. I am pretty sure nobody cares about the content of what is said by the protesters. There is nothing they have said that would have landed them in prison if they had said it via a newspaper page. Likewise, nobody cares if the protesters want to assemble. The problem is entirely with the riots and the looting, and with ddosing the city (not a lot of fun for the people living inside CHAZ). So I don't see free speech threatened by this, unlike with the left preventing speakers from speaking at our Universities for the last few years, which is an actual case of trying to silence voices.

>>19691356
it's truly pathetic to see "revolutionaries" of the left and the right, advocating for things like "growing your own food". It's a desperation for material independence because they know how fucked they are by the huge industrial machine of globalism is and how the government is going to fuck them with large industry and UBI.

They want freedom man, independence, at the most basic level. That's what is really driving all this chaos, getting fucked by large corporations and the corrupt elites making everyone jobless.

All the political ideology bullshit is just brainwashing done to them by the mentally ill radical left and right because they are the only ones offering ideologies that grant some modicum of power or identity.

truly pathetic, watching all the people squirm thinking they can escape the fuckening by the globalist machine.

>>19691265
that's always the false perception that people have.
Next you're going to tell me that you're shipping off to war because someone else is different or has something we want.
All jokes about Alex Jones aside he was right that globalists will take over the world. It's because they're free of the delusions of patriotism.
>>19691356
They should focus on those things but sorry we already bugged everything zoomie how's the latest gadet gizmo with the cameras?
Automation as a threat to jobs is overstated. You can screencap that and look back on it when I'm right and we have a bunch of amateur wrenchturners trying to get cornpicker-bots back to work. The labor market is way more malleable than people give it credit for. The only difference between then and now is we don't have unions to threaten and gladhand politicians into making fair wage deals and rules about overtime for gig slaves who are driving around in the current market bubble.

>>19690919
You are using violence for purely political aims. Arson, assault, vandalism, sedition and the list goes on.This is terrorism. Through threat of violence you subjugate, intimidate and extort innocent people to get political power.

This is not 1st amendment protected activity. It's literally terrorism and it's illegal.

Now, you will of course defend this activity because you sympathize with the cause. That is fine, do that. But normal people are not going to cry a single fucking tear for you when the US military wipes you the fuck out. Because that is literally their job. Every single one of them took and oath to defend the Constitution from YOU

>I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same

Domestic enemies get the bullet as well - legally!

>>19691430
well, globalism is basically capitalism and industry, without government regulations. IT allows them to create massive slave factories in third world countries and lower their prices.
Basically, the means of production is the only real power that regular citizens have, and the technocratic globalists will take that power away with automation and third world slave labor.
Truly a great economic fuckening.


Being needed in socitey grants power to the needed individual, without that power, they cannot maintain economic prosperity for themselves or exercise meaningful freewill.
As our socitey is taken over by technology, more and more people will turn to higher education trying to get paid.
But the REAL problem is this: because of how efficient and productive our modern system is, very few people are NEEDED to make enough goods for everyone, so very few citizens have power or money.

>>19691326
Wrong, faggot see >>19687848

>>19691395
People are divided because they are brainwashed by mainstream and social media.

There is a book I read, and in it the author claims that every great event in history is preceded by a small group or individual, which broadcasts a message to people that they all start believing. Like hitler or benjamen franklin anonymous letters or the enlightenment philosophers or marx.

Basically, someone makes a pretty catchy meme and everyone loses their collective shit and loses their ability to address and solve problems rationally.

These demigouges and ideolouges usually end with people going to war.

>>19691413
See the thing about free speech is that while someone is free to believe and say whatever they want outside hate speech or inciting violence, the people are aloud to tell them how much of a moron they are. Theres a big difference between people shutting down lectures and the state shutting down protests with violence. How do you not see the difference? I suppose that had the universities been state funded that would be fucked up and imo even if it wasnt state funded its still pretty shitty but again, theres a difference between screeching lefty students and actual agents of the state. Both should piss you off but one should make your skin crawl.

>>19691560
>state shutting down protests with violence.

They are shutting them down because without the police presence, those peaceful protestors would burn down the city, they demonstrated that already the first two nights of riots that happened.

The police presence is what keeps them peaceful.
After a certain amount of people show up, it's too risky to allow the protest to go on, because the police won't have the manpower to address when they start occupying the city with guns and declare themselves warlords like something out of the dark knight rises.

Seriously, I'm expecting Bane to show up in Seattle.

>>19691465
Jesus this looks like like bad copypasta bait. Youre actually brainwashed and cant even think critically here. Believe it or not, not all protesters are looting and rioting. You are actually a danger to society. Take youre fucking meds and go back to pol you fragile beta cuck.

>>19691485
useless people abound in our society and yet they still live better lives because the government allocates part of their check to keeping the country running.
Globalists will still need people to buy products. I think you're too far removed from how a real economy works thanks to shitcoins and the bilateral divide of power in the U.S.A. Automation is coming but it's not that we're moving into slavery more than we already have.

>>19691617
It's not practical to determine who in the protesting crowd would take advantage of a riot and loot and burn. It is practical to treat the entire group as potential rioters.

>>19691621
>Globalists will still need people to buy products.

Soon they will provide us with the cash to buy them, as in, UBI.

>it's not that we're moving into slavery more than we already have.

total dependency is enslavement. We can at best hope for a benevolent dictator at that point.
We would become like pets.
Sure, we're nice to our pets, we feed our pets, but we still cut their balls off because they annoy us when they want to have children.

>>19691660
>>19691621

>Soon they will provide us with the cash to buy them, as in, UBI.

We are already seeing the precursor to this with all the free covid19 money being handed out by the government.
>you are not essential, here is free money so you don't rio- I mean so you have a place to stay.

>>19691592
Lol bane is basically raz simone now. Anyway, maybe if the government offered them redress instead of ignoring them, they wouldnt sometimes become an angry mob. Thats the whole point of protest isnt it? Its one of two mechanisms we have to redress our grievences. Voting and litigation are the other two. Yet for the most part, the powerful ignore protests in general and our elections are heavily manipulated from end to end and lawsuits against the state rarely get far.

>>19691706
>Yet for the most part, the powerful ignore protests in general and our elections are heavily manipulated from end to end and lawsuits against the state rarely get far.


Our government is definitely corrupt. We should fear our government.
decades ago the CIA invested heavily into mind control research and experimented on children.
MKULTRA was confirmed and admitted to by the CIA, once they realized no one cared.
That's their intention, to completely dominate you, even in your mind.

People make fun of alex jones but he is far more correct than you think.

>>19691628
Might as well just throw out the first amendment. I agree that in a riot, its easier to assume everyone is a rioter but theres plenty of instances when the group of people were just demonstrating. These protestors won already, theyve shown how brutal police are. That was the point if their whole anti police brutality protest was it not?

>>19691740
>>19691706

>Our government is definitely corrupt. We should fear our government.

That's the most american thing you can do right? not trust the government, They are SUPPOSED to do what WE say, not the other way around.

>>19691740
Yea I have a love hate for alex jones. Hes right about a lot of things but some of it is just insanity. Still, when I hear him say things that I know are true but widely viewed as tinfoil hattery, it makes me wonder about his more outlandish claims.

>>19691747
yes, it's a complex situation. On one side you have anarchists who want to destroy socitey, on the other side you have a state that is slowly but surely becoming a tyrannical one with brutal and unaccountable police.

There are things wrong in our socitey and our police and government, I just think we are counting on the wrong people to act as our heros and revolters.

>>19691756
Agree, which is why I find the approval of the state by conservatives and auth libs repugnant.

>>19691775
epstien didn't kill himself

>>19691803
it's natural for people to latch on to strong people, which is what the state is, people willing and organized to do violence.

>>19691617
Enjoy GITMO faggot.

>>19691795
I dont think actual anarchists want to destroy society as much as transform it into something more equitable free from hierarchical structures but idk I wouldnt vote for one lol (that reference might have gone over your head)
>>19691810
Truth, he was hillaried or trumped. Both could have been fingered by epstein given enough pressure.

>>19691858
Ok bootlicker

>>19691560
> while someone is free to believe and say whatever they want outside hate speech or inciting violence
> hate speech
"hate speech" is legal, in fact it is what the 1A is for since inconvenient speech is always described as "hateful" by the people under criticism. The push for banning "hate speech" is the only legitimate threat to free speech we have seen over the last couple decades, and it's all by the left.
The state dispersing rioters is not a free speech issue, if they had done so WITHOUT a bunch of riots and looting, you would have had a leg to stand on. The only one genuinely trying to stop ideas from entering the discussion is the left.

>>19691872
>Truth, he was hillaried or trumped. Both could have been fingered by epstein given enough pressure.

Be careful of what you say on the internet, I saw somewhere recently that the FBI wanted to designate conspiracy theorists as domestic terrorists because, and I paraphrase, "they are mostly right".

>>19691872
>I dont think actual anarchists want to destroy society as much as transform it into something more equitable free from hierarchical structures


You can never dismantle hierarchical structures in socitey, though you can increase freedom.

The elite want to demolish literal physical freedom and independence and replace it with symbolic freedom.

basically they want everyone dependent on their economic machine and tightly surveillaed while still saying we have rights like free speech, where in reality if you say the wrong thing they target you.

>>19691888
>said the literal bootlicker

>>19691893
The state disperssing rioters is not a 1a issue. Never said it was. This is a nationwide protest, how can you use some examples of rioting and looting to dismiss the dispersal of peaceful protestors elsewhere? Its mental gymnastics, if you believe that then will you treat the police similarly? That since there are extrajudicial killings that we should disband or disperse the police entirely? Of course not thats absurd and you know it. Thats why both the left and the right are pathetic. The left wants gibs and pronouns and the right thinks they are a bigger threat than the actual state hahaha youre jimmies are more rustled over angry feminists than the literal state run repression hahahaha and you people think libs are triggered hahahshajhshshaha you need a safe space?

>>19691944
>no u
Feg

>>19691919
besides you can never dismantle hierarchy because human socitey, at it's core, is based on the master slave relationship, that's all socitey really is, authority and submission.

And all members of socitey must obey the law, or there is no socitey. It is good when the law is in the hand of the legislator and accountable to the people, because then the master is not allowed to abuse his slave, as is natural in the master slave relationship, however, over time, the master will always seek to abuse his slave, because it is natural and will pass laws that are unconstitutional or illegitimate.

however, no matter how bad the master becomes, there must always be a master in the form of the law, or else there could not be things like private property and civil peace and safety.

>>19692005
>That since there are extrajudicial killings that we should disband or disperse the police entirely?

That's literally what the left is asking for.

>>19692005
Both the left and right wing or vying for total power right now, it's no joke, the left is asking for the dismantling of the police and they are censoring people wherever they can and the right is biding it's time to gain power so they can play god.

Trust me, regardless of which side wins this culture war, we will see a very tyrannical state follow.

The elites of the world have it in their hearts to dominate normal people, and they will.

>>19692066
The left is an unorganized mob when it comes to demands. Always have been with protests and dems are spineless when it suits them. Ive heard all sorts of proposals so far, putting and end to qualified immunity, disolving police unions, and reallocating some police funds to create other types of social work endeavours. But only the most rabid fringe left has called for the complete defunding or disbandment of police. The only consistant thing ive heard from this movement is that we have a problem with police brutality in this country.