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On the one hand I agree with Warren Buffett that a big dip is imminent.
On the other hand Trump has got an economic reputation to hold to get a chance for a second term, so he would not just lie about this.
Thoughts?

>>19661641
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, EVERYTHING WILL GO BACK TO NORMAL

>>19661641
Yes america will fucking crash and it'll be glorious

>>19661641
>I see the numbers also, and do MUCH better than they do
What does he even mean by this? I voted for him but he says such retarded things sometimes

>>19661641
The last two Presidents to call out the FED got shot, and Donnie is blasting their butts on Twatter.
I'm inclined to trust Trump, SPY 500 12-21

>>19661641
Stop Tweeting you dumb faggot. Someone take the keyboard away from him.

>>19662465
i've reached the acceptance stage at this point, but still voting for him just because it pisses off so many annoying cunts

>>19661960

Trump only needs to keep the stock market propped up until November. I heard that sometimes politicians win elections by telling people what they want to hear, regardless of whether they agree with it or not.

>>19661641
the only thing holding up this phony baloney economy is jpow and his infinite print cheat code. If Donnie starts fucking around with shit he's going to cause the whole thing to collapse into the center of the universe

>>19662742
>plebbit spacing
>implying anyone is going to vote for biden
>implying anyone is going to vote left after all this shit

>>19662465
He means that he sees the numbers more clearly than they do, brainlet

>>19661641
>I am so glad i listened to mnuchin and sent the secret service against bitcoiner libertarians
>Thank you mnuchin your advice was great , imagine how bad we would be now if we had not sent the secret service to stop cryptocurrency and declared right wingers the biggest national security threat.

DEAR GOD WHY HE CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP AND FIGHT THE CULTURAL WAR.

The stock market bullshit is giving more and more power for commies as they pump the markets to the sky while the real economy is suffering.

>>19661960
It can't dip any further, everything is on fire sale right now, fucking fud faggots and nu investors are shitting the bed, this is a shake up, new idiots who threw 5k on the market last week from their paycheck and will sell today for half the price will never invest again.

I lost all my fucking gains today but I took a small profit and once the slaughter is over I'll have enough you start over from the 300 I put last month.

Weak hans should perish, my only regret is tiying all my money yesterday, I want to buy more today.

Buy the fucking dip

>>19662868
biden is leading the polls right now

>>19663147
Just like Clinton? Lol

>>19663147

>the polls

>>19662923
>heh i see numbers better than you do heh heh

>>19661641
ONE OF THE MOST BASED PRESIDENTS IN THE ENTIRE US HISTORY

>>19663184
>>19663215
I mean, sure he could lose, but nobody knows the outcome right now. Why should Trump care about anything else than the reelection?

>>19661641
If you really want to be free, buy VRA before it goes up any higher and hold.

>>19663254

Because he's an egotistical busybody that has to be involved in and have a say in everything. We don't get to pick our champions anon, he's kind of a clown but he's the only politician in DC that actually cares about the future of this country.

>>19663291
What makes you think that?
I mean, if he was a true patriot, he wouldn't have dodged the draft, and his granddaughter wouldn't be learning Chinese

>>19663370

There's a difference between someone's individual character and the policies they institute anon. Reagan->GHWB->Clinton->GWB->Obama all put on a great face, were great actors, presented as stand up men, but if you examine their greater economic policy they perpetuated the process of selling out the United States to the world on immigration and trade.

It took a bullheaded, egotistical outsider to break the establishment, 2-party monopoly on that. They tear at him constantly to this day and are willing to push in a quite literally senile crony lifer to get him out. Don't get caught up in minutiae like "what was Donald Trump doing in the 1970's" when the bigger issue is how we're going to adjust on an economic and geopolitical basis.

>>19661960

why do people think trump can control the stock market? if he is so powerful, why doesn't he just make the economy good in the first place rather than follow your idiotic theory that he can prop up the market to fake it till November. fact his trump has no clue wtf to do, how do people not see right through his bs? the economy was on its last legs before 'rona and now it's crippled for years. stock market crashed twice already under trump and it can again. Trump can't do shit or we'd actually have a strong economy to begin with. not just fake digits and pump and dumps by his fed.

>>19661641
>That's my opinion.
I hate that this retard is the best we have.

>>19663469
I agree with you that Trump is an outsider, and that he appeals to a group of voters that had been previously ignored by the establisment.
I just don't believe he does it out of some deeper lover for his country, I think he simply wants power. Once he is reelected, he won't have any use for his voter base.

>>19661641

Nice, just injected 100 gallons of disinfectant

>>19662923
>Trump sees the numbers better
>he and his sons were saying 30k was just the beginning just in February

>>19663184

Just like 2018? Lol

>>19663469

If Americans want to work for Chinese wages then that’s fine with me. Otherwise fuck off and stop complaining. The 1950s aren’t coming back. Don’t get butthurt that other people will work for less money for longer hours than you want to.

>>19663559

You could construe it as pride. Maybe he wants to be remembered as the guy who fought DC, won, and ushered in a new American golden age. It really doesn't matter, if someone's objectives are in line with yours you take what you can get.

>>19663625

>dude stop complaining about the mass sell-off of American working class jobs after we arbitrarily instituted a gross amount of regulations and wage/living standards that upped the bar to a point where American industry couldn't compete with our new friend, China

I don't want to live in a nation composed of nurses, waitresses, and uber drivers, anon. I want a healthy, productive, enfranchised nation of independent people that can vote with their mind, not their immediate needs. Cutting millions off from their work and sending that overseas is precisely how you create a brooding socialist revolution. There is much more going on than just "durr you guys get paid too much, too bad", this is about the future of the United States and its democratic integrity.

>>19663647
>if someone's objectives are in line with yours you take what you can get
I agree, I just think that his objective will stop to be in line with yours after the next election.

Personally I doubt that it is in his or any other presidents power to usher a new gold age for America. The cold war with China is coming, one way or the other. I do not believe America will manage to remain the world hegemon for long.

>>19663647
If he had pride and believed in his 2016 promises he wouldn't have rolled over and signed the first omnibus (with virtually NO border wall funding) without a fight.

>>19663687
This guy gets it.
We should work and increase the living standards of ourselves and others.
Not take pride in being the one who is willing to slave for less.

>>19663702

He's still quite feckless dude. He's been under investigation constantly, people protest right outside of his house every day. We're quite, quite far from the "fascist dictator" people envision, he has to do everything with two arms weighted down.

I would be happy if he directed the conversation that way, even if he never managed to be "the one" that turned the course against China.

>>19663729

He didn't have Senate support. As it stands he's managed to get funding and work done through different, very creative methods, despite serious opposition in Congress and the courts.

>>19663687

>it’s the governments fault that I won’t work for Chinese wages at Chinese hours

Sorry you’re getting your asses kicked by some chinks that can barely read. Your corporate masters were more than happy to sell you out for higher profit margins, no government boogeyman required (but if you want to abolish safety regulations too then be my guest). Hopefully Daddy Trump can help you learn to code or something so you all can get real jobs instead of pining for the good old days. Maximizing profit and cutting costs is a cornerstone of capitalism; sorry you can’t hack it.

>>19663795
>He didn't have Senate support.
He didn't even try to push back.

The truth is the system cannot self correct anymore. It tried with Obama. It tried with Trump. Whatever you say about both these presidens, they were elected because people wanted things to improve. Instead they got fucked.
Enjoy the last days anons. It might be a month, it might be years but its clear now were on a path towards disaster.

>>19663729

This. Not to mention a nigger loving prison reform bill, a worldwide push to legalize homosexuality, pardoning literal kikes who hire illegals, gun grabbing, and non stop Israeli cocksucking just to name a few.

>>19663803
It's the governments fault that we are being asked to directly compete with them.

>>19663803
Yes. Cause the gov can easily put tarrifs on chinese import and promote american businesses. Fuck globalism and fuck you.

PLS LET IT CRASH! I MADE SO MUCH DURING QUARANTINE THAT I CAN FINALLY GET ON TO THE BIG BOYS TABLE AND BE RICH! CRASH YOU FUCK CRASH!!!!!

>>19663795
I don't think he is a fascist dictator. I think he will use his second term to cozy um with the establishment, in order to ensure lucrative position for his family clan. This is at least what I would do in his position.
Also, I am curious why you are in such a strong support of an anti Chinese course. What do you get out of it?

>>19663858

No, we’re just in the death throws of white majority America. As soon as we’re majority nonwhite they’ll have enough numbers to back both chambers and the courts and finally ram their agenda down our throats.

>>19663858

the system is working as designed, to funnel all money to the wealthiest people, everything else is just window dressing

>>19663858
Don't forget. No matter how bad the problem is, you can make it worse.

>>19663835

He had literally just taken office. He's achieved what he set out to do, the wall is being built with DoD funding. Despite constant outcry that he was being a Hitler he's significantly stemmed illegal inflow. I don't know why you're so intent on convincing me that the guy I begrudgingly voted for to set out a job, a guy that I've scrutinized every week since then to see if he's doing it, is not doing it. Yes he is, despite massive opposition he's achieving it. Think about how easy it would have been for him to go the classic neocon pushover route and just give up on everything but the babbiest shit. Dude may be a cock but he's also a battler.

>>19663893

>socialism is good when I want it

Pathetic

>>19662678

I'd rather write in Adolf Hitler. Hopefully if enough people do it the media will report it and freak the fuck out

>>19661698
>t. tranny who wishes his wound were one

>>19663184
Clinton still won the popular vote. And Biden is leading in every battle ground state. Trump was actually even in states like MI, WI, NH, and NC. Now he's behind everywhere, including Arizona of all places

>>19663937

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1014186

Illegal border crossings reached a record under Daddy, according to the Border Patrol’s own stats.

He's just having the FED print more money. Devaluing the dollar to make it look like he's a super hero when truthfully he's a nervous wreck and a complete fool. This is why crypto is going to be so important in the near future.

>>19663898

>What do you get out of it?

This is just what I've personally zeroed in on as America's greatest existential threat today. They're our #1 competitor, economically and geopolitically, and they don't hide the fact that their goal is to take over the top spot on the globe. They're ideologically rotten with quasi communist authoritarianism and their gradual takeover of the world represents a similar threat to the USSR.

At this point, they've stripped the United States of millions of important manufacturing jobs while engaging in IP theft and espionage. I believe they conduct ideological warfare by fomenting socialist and communist sentiment here. They already have the West Coast firmly under their boot and their goal is to have the rest of the country capitulate and vote their way. It's a lot more precarious than you think, easy to get comfortable when danger hasn't gotten to your doorstep yet.

>>19663937
>He's achieved what he set out to do
and what is that, exactly?

>>19663147
1. They oversample their side by 10-20 percent.
2. Even if they don't want to oversample, no one on the right will answer polls. Because of cancel culture, the threat of a polling call being fake to dox and ruin their lives is a very real threat.

>opinion

>>19661960
>Trump has got an economic reputation to hold to get a chance for a second term, so he would not just lie about this.
true, when has trump lied about anything?

>>19663975
clinton was leading in those states 5 months before the election too, your point?

>>19663945
Globalism =/= capitalism.
China can keep their workforce cheap because everything is centralized. Globalists pretend theyre capitalists but really they just let someone else do the socialism for them.

>>19663001
It hasn't dropped 50% in a week. Unless you're thinking their cheques barely cover trading fees, you're clearly in hysterics.

>>19663990

>apprehensions are up for May

So the Border Patrol is doing its job? Nobody can control the sudden surges. That doesn't attest to the hard amount of people in the country.

>>19664010
Yeah but why do you care as an individual? You are not America. Your wellbeing is not necessarily linked to the wellbeing of USA. And at the end of the day, you will be the one who will have to bear the cost of a war against China, one way or the other

>>19664018

Make trade and immigration control a priority again, where they'd become a sideshow, or even a sacrificial lamb in prior ones. Imagine if the people before him hadn't let this become a farce by 2015.

I really feel bad for all of you idiots that still believe this obese colostomy bag is on "your side" kek
Unless you're already extremely wealthy (top 1%), trump is doing nothing to further your gainz

>>19664128
>Your wellbeing is not necessarily linked to the wellbeing of USA

How do you figure? I was born here, my family and friends are here, my family will be here. I work and invest here. This is a great country that went from zero to hero in a span of ~100 years, it's a success story when you consider how poorly most colonial upstarts fared. Would you tell a Roman to not care about Rome?

>>19664078

globalism is the highest stage of capitalism, it must expand or die so they spread out globally to get cheap labor anywhere they can to accumulate as much profit as possible

>>19664148
he already did that when he got elected.

the only thing he had going for him is the economy, and soon even his most delusional supporters wont be able to defend it
though they will try their damndest

>>19662678
>destroying the future of this country and my own well-being to own the libs
based

>>19663147
>be pollster
>oversample Ds by 20%
>anyone who suppports trump gets called a nazi and lives and property threatened by insane libs.
Almonds activated.

>>19664222
if you thought yts were oppressed before, just wait

>>19664184
I would tell a regular Roman that he has no influence on the wellbeing of Roma, and if things go sour, flight is better than fight

>>19664237

Not a great modus operandi anon. I have nowhere better to flee to, this is a place worth fighting for still. Even a balkanized US would be preferable to much of the world.

>>19664010

The corporations and their bought and paid for politicians sent the jobs there willingly. you knew for decades that everything in every store is made in china while all our jobs vanished, you didn't think eventually that would come back to bite us? Boomers sold us all out to the chinese

>>19664273

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me. Since I wasn't raising a stink back then (as a teenager) that I can't now? Yes, politics are reactive. Something happened, I'm now aware of it, I want to respond and fight back.

I'm getting so sick of this faggot. I've given him support and benefit of doubts so many time only for this pale nigger to backtrack or flip the next day and the cunt just can't shut the fuck up for one day and let the market naturally correct itself?

>>19664334
nah, he’s doing a good job
the liberal media just wants you to think the stock market matters, it doesn’t

>>19662465
>sometimes
When has he ever said anything smart?

>>19663975
you guys should definitely try to win the popular vote again and don't worry about getting blown out elsewhere

>>19664270
Well, then I wish you all the best in your fight.

Personally, I am a rootless cosmopolitan, and I will go wherever the conditions are better for me

>>19663937
>dude the first year in office is just like orientation and shit, you don't have to pass an agenda then
Peak cope.

He is such a dotard lol

>>19664395
Literally the ONLY thing trump talks about is the stock market and how well it's doing. Or about how popular he is, or how much people like his terrible ghost-written book.
How delusional are you, anon?

>>19664456
Don't forget those black unemployment numbers

>>19664395
A good job would make me and the market feel confident. This nigger is shitting on it and proud of it. No, he's not doing a good job. He's the God damn president of the United States, and the only work he's doing lately is to sit his soggy ass on the toilet tweeting all day. The only work he's done is trolling anyone who speaks against him personally.

>>19661641

Omg pls let it be true orange man.
PLS

>>19663147
I don't think anyone (with a brain) seriously thinks Biden is going to win. Not even Joe himself. Not a single soul.

>>19664580
>the polls were off by 5% in a few critical swing states therefore all the polls for 2020 are off by 20%

>>19661641
For all his imperfections, I truly love this man.

>>19661641
Just a normal election year.......goyim.

>>19661960
Its a catch 22. Who do you trust more?

They have divided it along these lines for a reason.

When Donald Trump said the Buff was a fool, they made him the fool. Now the ball is in DJT's court. Whats the next move?

>>19663291
>he's the only politician in DC that actually cares about the future of this country

You actually believe this.

>>19661960
He will just deny stating this shit like he does with every tweet

>>19661641
MAKE SOCIAL MEDIAS REVELANT AGAIN

BUY REL

>>19665511
>osama bin laden in the back
holy shit bros... were trump and michael jackson behind 9/11?

>>19661960
do you remember 1 week ago /smg/ praised Trump like cultist retards?
So yes, stonks go up meme is really working and is really making people vote for him
So yes Trump will save the DOW

you let these 4chan teens win few thousands bucks they'd dance on their coronavirus-killed grandpas grave and still praise Trump for everything

>>19663469
>egotistical outsider to break the establishment, 2-party monopoly on that

lol who do you think selected all the positions in the executive branch that went in with Trump? If you said the establishment did, you would be right. Trump irreparably shit the bed on day one because he believed Congress Republicans.

Steve Mnuchin. Just repeat 'Steve Mnuchin' over and over untill you get it. Trump let the swamp run the show. Trump's administration would have been the same people as Jeb Bush, and largely the same as Hillary's.

When people talk of the deep state, they don't want you to think about the guy that kept them in, the Trump-man himself.

>>19665740
>DUDE IF OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT WUFLU WOULD HAVE JUST DISAPPEARED LMAO

>>19663001
I wouldn't be going all in right now because you never know the extent of the drop, but price is dropping and therefore the correct thing to do is begin accumulation. It's only a question of the rate at which you do it.

>>19665876
>DUDE if I don't pick JEWS LEFT then I must be JEWS RIGHT
the fucking state of mind of Amerimutts
disgusting

>>19665936
I think Trump is a retard but if you believe the DRUMPF WANTS TO MURDER GRANDPA FOR A BETTER STOCKMARKET meme you've drunk the koolaid

>>19661641
Mr. "Reopen everything by April"

>>19662465
>sometimes
Like the windmills causing cancer or the injections of disinfectant?
Or just every single time he opens his mouth?

>>19665973
Not him but trump would gladly kill any amount of citizens to have a good looking economy. I'm not even joking

>>19665973

Sorry mate, I fully believe Trump would do that.