/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19643663
SILVER UP $.60 TIME TO FOMO

previous >>19617980

FWTRHWAHQUD status~ shopping for produce
When copypasting, please remember to remove the "[embed]", otherwise they stack up and activate my... I mean some anons ocd.
TY.

Expanded list of PM youtubers--

Uneducated Economist
Maneco64
Palisade Radio
Mining Stock Education
belangp
Dominic Frisby: Money, Markets & Other Matters
Peter Schiff
Mike Maloney
Gregory Mannarino
McAlvany Financial
George Gammon
Illuminati Silver
Greg Hunter
Daniel Pronk
Neil McCoy Ward
I Love Prosperity
Liberty and Finance
Kitco News
Arcadia Economics
Katusa Research
Gold and Alternative Investments
GoldMoney
Baby Farm - Stock Market Research
Cambridge House International
ITM Trading, Inc
Silver Bullion TV
Trader University
John Howell
Andrei Jikh
Bull Boom - Bear Bust
Epic Economist
Gold and Silver Assets
Gold Newsletter
Investing News
Mises Media
Ron Paul - Liberty and Finance
RoadtoRoota
SD Bullion
TheDailyGold
Noble Gold Investments
Ian Smith
SilverDoctors
Elite Investor TV
As Good As Gold Australia
Life Growth Academy
Physical Gold Fund
WallStForMainSt
The Atlantis Report
Nugget's News
FSN GoldandSilver
Cooper Academy - Investing

Is it time? Has the ponzi finally fallen?

aren't PM prices heavily manipulated? due to rehypothecation and all the other BS paper built on top of the metal itself

>>19644002

The Dollar Vigilante, The Rich Dad Channel and Junius Maltby are also good channels.

Ok I am going to buy these stock, what do you guys think?

Skeena Resources
Pure Gold
Pretium Resources
Hecla Mining
Golden Minerals Co.
Ximen Mining

What do you guys have? Anything else I should look into?

As a side question, what happens to your money invested in mining stocks if the economy fails and the dollar collapses or goes away? People will flee to metals so miners should do well but how does it work if the dollar collapses or goes away at the same time?

>>19643873
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM WWAITING SINCE MONTHS FOR A DIP BUT IT ONLY GOES UP
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>19644108

Precious metals manipulation likely to be coming to an end soon. Alistair McCleod, Chris Marcus, Ted Butler, Dave Kranzler, Andy Schechtman, Bart Chilton, Rob Kirby, and others, all saying this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbWauOCFXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRN0cdomZKg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4ZaDweyOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HArUrETXLk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwjU80LrN9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n665orfBOqM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s84ReWmh9ms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AqybjlUlQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3eFmXOr54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeHkk4bdywY

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER SILVER CHADS

DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF POSITIVE THOUGHT! ESPECIALLY COLLECTIVE POSITIVE THOUGHT!

THIS SHIT IS GOING TO REACH $1,000 *EASILY*!
IMAGINE A HOUSEWIFE GOBBLING ON YOUR DICK AND HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER WAITING IN TURN FOR A MERCURY DIME
HOLD THAT THOUGHT AND VISUALIZE IT IN YOUR MIND EVERYDAY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE STARTING NOW AND IT WILL MANIFEST INTO REALITY. DO IT! I'M NOT JOKING!

VISUALIZE AS OFTEN AND AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE!

EVERYTHING IS ENERGY AND VIBRATION
ATTUNE YOUR VIBRATIONS TO MATCH THAT OF MONEY AND IT WILL FLOW TO YOU

What do you guys think about copper?

>>19644347
Completely horrible investment that's interesting to collect depending on what you want.

>>19644347
I get scrap copper for free from work. Usually I just take it into the scrap yard, but I'm considering making bars instead.

Buying it by the ounce is kind of retarded, because its usually only worth a couple dollars a pound.

TFW Powell speaks at 2PM EST and gold and silver literally go vertical on the charts. You can't make this shit up.

Glad I decided to pick up another 1/4oz of gold and 10 more philharmonics at 3AM though.

>>19644347
What the fuck kind of boomer buys 1oz copper bars? No, what kind of mentally deranged tard buys copper at a dollar an OUNCE??
>>19644440
Fucking this.

>>19644347
Terrible as an investment not to mention that you're buying an ounce for the price of half a pound. The price is entirely dependent on industrial demand, which makes it horrible to have in a financial collapse. The only way you can really make money from copper is by selling scrap to recyclers.

>>19644343
What will I be able to get for that 100 oz loaf of silver I have?

>>19644002
SRSRocco Report is also very good

>>19644700
You'll be able to have the housewife and daughter be impregnated with your seed and carry the children to term.

>>19644127
>>19644722
grazie frens
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>>19644002
Departures Capital
Alhambra Investments
TheGoldandSilverClub
Equitymaster - Independent Stock Market Research
Daily Investing Advice
Real Vision Finance
The Dollar Vigilante
Junius Maltby
The Rich Dad Channel
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At some point we might have to just make a pastebin, we have a lot of info/resources stacking up here.
Maybe some kind of peer-review or rating system to help newfrens decide what to look at first.

>>19644184
You missed the dip. The next buy comes late 2021.

Big pump coming tomorrow, today everyone realized that the stock market was pumped with Robinhood kids and the stimulus checks. Bigger players started to cash out, recession and depression will hit the world, printing will only make the fall a bit less painful.
And here I am, with 12oz og gold and 1400oz of silver, waiting, smiling, sipping.

We are gonna make it.

>>19644347
DID SOMEONE SAY COPPER!?

>>19644812
The central banks could monkeyhammer PMs down at any time. Are you guessing 2021 due to some sort of cycle?

>>19644347
Paperweight to put inside of a decoy safe

>>19644700
In the Weimar Republic it was possible to buy a hotel for just a few Gold Marks. With 100 oz of silver, you'll be able to buy a hotel and fill it with all the formerly well to do housewives you can handle.

>>19644858
The monkey hammers are literally not effective anymore because only the strongest hands and most Chad of silver Chads are left. They absolutely raped the price to 12 to try and shake people out of the market, make silver look like a shit industrial commodity. A people did was buy more than they ever would have.

>>19644858
Unemployment will run out for most late this year, corona will bring the pain when the colder months return, and people will be getting evicted like it’s a fashion statement. I figure july next year will be a great new era for buying homes and precious metals.
What’s your guess?

>>19644002
>>19644804

SRSRocco Report
spegtacular
robfindstreasure

>>19644002
>belangp

Based, I thought I was the only one watching this channel

But seriously though, if this shit does happen how fast will the price go up? Could we literally wake up one morning and silver will have doubled. Then when all the suckers sell everything they have it x10 the next night?

Got my Corona in.

>>19645065

If silver manipulation were to come to an end, and it may do so soon (>>19644191), then this very well might occur. It would be a situation opposite to the one which we had in the oil futures market with respect to negative oil prices.

>>19644524
>at a dollar an OUNCE??
This is where I've always been confused by copper. I get maybe buying a couple for the novelty of it, but where do you actually buy copper that's relatively near spot price? I know copper's not really investment grade shit, but like Iron, Lead, and every other metal it still has a relative market price, right?

>>19644191
>>19645184
A) Manipulation of silver in today's market is a myth.

B) The myth has been propagated and repeated for so long that everyone believes it, and every year, every month they ALWAYS say "it'll end soon!!"

C) Absolutely ZERO evidence has been brought forth to show any kind of manipulation, "muh JPM hoarding for deep state", etc. ZERO.

https://youtu.be/-TdplfYsyP4

>>19645257
Copper is usually only about $1.50-$2 a POUND. Maybe $3-$4 in the best of times, unless you take the time to melt it down yourself. You'd have to be paying pennies on the dollar to buy a copper round to even break even.

Literally the only reason to by one is if you like the design or something. Its just not worth it in any sense for investment. You're losing like, 90% of its value even by buying it at a dollar or two an ounce.

Pretty much all of the price is just in producing the thing.

>>19645392

The big banks are running for the exits on their short positions, and Eric Sprott is getting phone calls from people begging him for 1000-ounce silver bars. Something strange is quite clearly going on. Are you aware that JPM traders have actually been convicted of PM manipulation? Bart Chilton was directly involved in it. He speaks about it from personal experience. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n665orfBOqM&feature=emb_title.. Chris Marcus has spent years gathering evidence for his book The Big Silver Short, which just came out. This is not simply a "conspiracy theory."

>>19644347
100% solid copper cups hold value. i don't know why.

>>19645392
You want me to believe that financial institutions involved in this level of skull drudgery are being honest when they do their reporting? Do you believe laws apply to these institution?

>>19645392
>always the same fudder with the same pasta and same fake news video proved to be wrong dozens times
*yaaaaawn*
Even the banks themselves admitted manipulating the prices during court hearing under oath, you cock gobbling niggeroid faggot.

>>19645627
Comments on the vids are hilarious, not a single guy believe this COMEX shill.

Will it fuck up my silver if I store it in a safe with ammo?

>>19646130
I assume you don't have it in any kind of tube or capsule, right? By storing silver in air, it will eventually, very slowly tarnish. However, in a vault or safe where the air is stale (little or slow exchange of fresh air to the silver surface) this process is slowed down. You would only have potential issues if you placed lead/brass in long term, metal on metal contact with your silver. And even then, that takes years. Gold and plat are so inert that they don't care where you put them so long as it isn't aqua regia.

TLDR; you're fine dude.

>there's only a thread when the metals are trading positive

Fucking posers.

>>19646444
literally no.

>>19645420
This is important... I bought 40x 1oz rounds bc I looked at spot prices and thought I was getting a deal. Feel like a moron.

>>19646444
There's only Poos shilling shitcoin here

Got a morgan and a peace dollar with a American silver eagle all for $65 today.

>>19644146
I have no idea, I think that the dollar collapsing is going to be a never before seen event that will certainly throw everything into turmoil and shift geopolitics in a way nobody can foresee. I think that if the stock market is still active once such an event occurs, mining companies will be the top tier companies but I’m mostly spitballing, I’m going to go like 50/50 in mining stocks and actual PMs just in case so I don’t miss the moonshot

>>19645392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1rKu7wvIXc

Pic related was taken yesterday. Go ahead, go check it out and see the numbers now. Debtclock.org

>>19646865
usdebtclock.org

Fuck me, guys.
Fuck.
FUCK!

I bought it.
https://www.apmex.com/product/95500/2016-w-1-4-oz-gold-standing-liberty-quarter-centennial-w-ogp

>>19645530
My PM dealer has been trying to get silver bars for months now but can’t. He’s got plenty of gold however.

>>19646949
$600 for a 1/4 oz is pretty bad. You can get 1/4 oz maples for under $500

>>19646972

Andy Schechtman of Miles Franklin said recently that virtually every customer is buying silver from him. Nobody sells it. He says that, when the price goes down, people simply buy even more, because they know that it's all manipulated.

>>19646865
Is this what silver would be worth in what case? For every ounce of silver there are 3224 dollars?

>>19646865
>usdebtclock.org
normalfags are doomed

>>19647350

>>19646199
The world would be a much better place if everyone got to experience pure, unadulterated MDMA once in their lifetime.

>>19646199
Thanks candy bro.

I'll make sure I keep a fresh dehumidifier thing in there. The safe is airtight.

BTW I ordered a roll of mercs & they arrived. Some of them from 1942-1945 look like they're damn near mint condition, is this common?

>>19645392
Thanks just bought another 100 oz

Srsrocco is so fuckin based. Here's a chart showing pretty definitively that we are in peak silver. Yields per ton are just going to keep going down from here, every year it will take more energy and labour to get an ounce. This is what makes physical silver a risk free investment at these prices, the cost to mine creates a floor in the price.

>>19644146
What's your reasoning behind your stock picks. I haven't heard of most of those companies.

And historically gold does well on a second leg down in markets. Read this.

https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash/?utm_campaign=20200522_Gold_Second_Stock_Market_Crash__Jeff_Newsletter&utm_content=touchpoint_1_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zaius

>>19647052
I know but it's so hard to come by anymore. I've wanted one since they came out and only recently have I been able to afford it.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>19644897

>>19644347

Physical copper is retarded. Miners are interesting, but prices seem to only pick up after an economy exits a recessionary period. Longer term, 5-10 years, I'm very bullish. The electrification of literally everything has only just begun. If you look at it from a big picture, we've only just entered the electrification age, and exponential growth will continue into every aspect of life. Short term extremely bearish.

>>19647863
so buy silver mining stocks

>>19647863
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921344913002747

>here is a scientific paper from a completely different researcher that says the exact same thing, but with 3 different models :)

https://docdro.id/vQ2bWtl

>>19648372
plz read my paper on why we will make it

>>19648372
Ahhhhhh, I just clicked the link and all my silver bars are gone!!!!!!!!

>>19648302
>costs are going up for miners
>"buy mining stocks"

brainlet moment

>>19646865
>now is 3236
Comfy, just gained another $12/oz in few hours. Getting rich never have been so easy frens.

>>19647903
do you mind if i save this picture?

>>19648748

>>19646949
GOLDEN TITTIES WEEEEE!!!!!!!!

>>19644343
This is the best thing I've read in a /pmg/.
Thanks, fren

>>19645392
Thanks, just bought another roll off of APMEX
Low effort FUD

>>19648789
Fun fact that quarter used to be banned in Boston because the conservative religious people in the city complained about the tits.

>>19644343
>EVERYTHING IS ENERGY AND VIBRATION
reminds me of all the conspiracy theories I used to subscribe to a long time ago. Good memories

>>19646972
>My PM dealer has been trying to get silver bars for months now but can’t
It get me really spooped; my orders from fucking march are still "in preparation" and each time i reach to them they delay the date, now i'm supposed to get delivered in end of july..
These mofos got greedy and sold silver they didn't own when the premiums were crazy high to make more shekels, but the minters are still not delivering. Last time i REEEEE'd super hard and ended up on the phone with the CEO of the franchise (i bought for $15K total of silver just in march from them) and this fucker told me they still have 17000 orders WAITING to be fulfilled because minters are out of stock for bars everywhere.
Fucking greedy kikes pieces of shit.

>>19648922
lol where do you order from?

>>19648901
definitely GMI

>>19648934
From https://www.achat-or-et-argent.fr
Never again..

>>19648658
You think this is their peak? That they will crash in the coming months and stay down? Kek

>>19648901
What site is this?

>>19648950
>Europe
Makes sense. I didn't realize how weak Europe's PM supply chain was until this crisis

>>19649020
APMEX

>>19649036
Can you imagine the shitshow it will be when SLV holders try to transorm their paper into physical out of fear?

>>19649168
Will take much longer to fulfill than your order that's for sure. If ever.

PAN MAN I SUMMON YOU.
So im going to be in Shasta, CA and Tonopah NV sometime in the future. Where can I look to find good panning places. Also would any old panning kit on amazon be good to start out? Thank you!

>>19649528
I'm gay

war nickels, bulk of bars, and ASEs and kooks not in this picture

>>19648901
the numbers in the Current Holdings page are inflated because they include APMEX's own premium, which is much higher than their competitors

>>19644347
just save 1982 or older pennies when you find them no reason to load up on bars unless you are so poor you cant afford silver...

>>19643663

>>19649543
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM PAN MAN!

>>19649528
hang on I can give you a few links, Shasta has a few different places that you can pan for fun, might even get nuggets if you look hard enough. try this link, i ll find more in a bit i just came back from the bush like 5 minutes ago. https://raregoldnuggets.com/?p=7759

Tonopah NV is mostly hard rock gold, look in old waste piles for iron stained milk quartz, ore a blue stained quartz. This carrys the best gold values, up to 25 ounces a tonne in rare cases.

For gear see if you can find a simple "panning kit" on amazon for cheap. they show up easily with that tag. Also get a good hammer, a spoon or similar tool for cleaning cracks will help too. A good pick and shovel from a garden store might come in handy as well. Check thediggings.com/ for specific areas your going to be near, half the battle of prospecting is knowing what are where to dig.

>>19649774
Still giving out mining stock tips?

>>19649798
depends, the companies i follow keep changing and i am too busy in the bush right now to keep track, but shoot me a few names and i can give you a run down of the companies and how they look right now. I am beat though so I am sorry if i pass the fuck out before replying.

>buy two 1oz gold eagles
>"BU ANON BU!!"
>they come with marks and scuffs

why

>>19649798
Oh I dont have name. Figured you could name drop one that caught your eye or you bought yourself. Or if miners are even a good tihng to get into right now.

>>19649877

do you know how much it would cost to stamp one coin and then glove walk it into a capsule?

>>19649894
almost all the companies i look into are penny stock, I love to keep an eye on what similar small time companies or even single indeviduals are discovering around BC and North America in general.

Miners are usually a good buy in general in my opinion, but they are totally tied to the values of the resources they extract so always be mindful of that.

One company I am very interested in right now is Artemis Gold, I want to see how they handle the massive Blackwater project they just bought into from New Gold. Its my neck of the woods, and we dont see major projects like that appear often.

>>19649898
I just dont like the BU meme.

>>19649036
Kinda funny because I've only been buying Austrian Phillies recently and they're very much available

>>19649998
Well there's a mountain of them in America. Not so much in Europe

>>19649543
This isn't me guys, I'm not gay

>>19650007
RiP yurobros

>>19649974
Would a mining ETF be worth it if I don't want to deep dive into the space? Or will it be too diluted with shit companies?

>>19650011
I am the gayest

i spent the day with a client looking at his new placer claim he bought sight unseen. Interesting property but its in the middle of no where and I have no idea how hes going to get equipment in to test properly. Still neat territory too look over, found gold too, good times.

>>19650062
hand to say, depends on the ETF, last time I looked a few looked like they had nothing but junk, but NUGT looked promising. I would suggest doing more of your own research, its not my area of expertise.

Hey, pmg. For some reason I'm collecting all sorts of shit now. Here's some Saddam related stuff.

>>19650170
Some occupation notes to go with my WW2 coinage

>>19650209
Fuck the Yankee eagle this is an eagle

>>19645550
useful for making moscow mules

>>19650229
And this NK silver is fun, but hard to get hold of, it doesn't come up at good prices very often due to rarity. I hope to get more though.

>>19646199

>Storing gold as a liquid inside tubes of aqua regia
>Buying a van and relabeling under LabCorp or some company that tests urine
>Also keeping guns in the car as a last resort

Is this the single most fucking BASED way to move gold from a city/ suburb to an outpost in the woods without getting robbed by bolsheviks?

>>19650327
Once you dissolve it, how do you separate it? Seems like a huge hassle. Just hide the shit in your car or something, not hard. You can still disguise your van as LabCorp for good measure

>>19650262
Where can I buy one?

Had 1 kook initially, a few more arrived today.

>>19650170
>>19650209
>>19650229
>>19650262

I figure I'll become a crazy numista fuck with a load of cool money related coins and notes and hopefully cash the bullion type shit in, the cool historical shit I'll save though, hoping for it go higher. A lot of my scrap and sterling circulated currency has easily doubled over the last few years. I picked a lot of that up at half what it sells for, idk why that's gone up so much. Oh well, here comes insanity.

>>19650398
Coin dealers (won't be on display/listed you must ask) and eBay listed as South Korean. Don't get mugged on price bro. It's illegal to trade it hence the scarcity, sanctions etc.

Found this bad Larry in my old junk drawer. I’m American and didn’t even realize these bad Larry’s are 80% silver.

>>19650390
https://www.911metallurgist.com/blog/how-to-use-aqua-regia-to-purify-gold#gsc.tab=0 this gives a run down of the process.

>>19643663
why invest in something as stable as gold? whats the fomo for? 3k gold? why not invest in bitcoin or hot stocks like tesla/amazon/fb. i understand why people hold gold but i dont think many people here are rich enough to seriously be holding gold

>>19649612
mirin that constitutional

>>19647502
I don't think water is a big deal for silver tarnish. Tarnish is a silver sulfide that forms from a reaction with trace amounts of sulfur containing gas in air. Its worth it I guess if you're afraid of rust affecting magazines or guns and you live in a humid place.

It's possible to get lightly handled dimes in junk silver rolls, but they're definitely not BU or mint fresh if you take a magnifying glass to them under good light. Google what graders look for on Mercs, but you should notice that wear and tear blurs the lines on the stick in the faces on the reverse, and the waves of the hair on the obverse.

>>19649774
Thank you! I will post results and findings of my adventure! Im reading through the old threads as well!

>>19644146
only an absolute brainlet would not purchase physical.

There was a gold mining stock I was in that netted me good profit (got in at 1.53-1.83, got out at 2.87) and is “pretty stable”. Ticker is KNTNF. I sold my position in the company because im buying a few assets greater than money. (Panning kit, tools, old old books).

https://youtu.be/qnPCLTDD5R0

>>19650763
Whats wrong with buying some Miners on the side?

>>19650327
Just going to haul around 5 gallon carbouys full of nitric acid and HCL, huh? You'd probably be safer by caking bars in horse shit. Nobody wants to dig around in that. Unless an Indian cop pulls you over I guess. Then use the guns.

>>19650968
If you aren't in the make it stack range for either, there's no reason to abuse your fiat like that.
You want something that can fulfill a sell order and paper metals will do nothing of the sort.

>>19651000
What is the make it stack for gold and silver? No BS 100000000000oz Gold 1000000000000000000000000oz silver stacks please

>>19651048
10oz g
1000oz s

>>19651081
This is the absolute correct answer.

>>19651048
>>19651081
This. Make-it stack for silver has always been 1000oz.

However 10oz won't make it for gold. It does not have nearly as much explosive upside potential as silver.

>>19651194
>>19651154
>>19651081
>2oz gold
>260oz silver

crying_pepe.jpeg

Here's the thing - those numbers were calculated something like five years ago.
We've been printing money like mad, especially lately, over the past few years.
It's not more like 170k/oz projection for Au. Hell, this isn't even accounting for all of the private ownership of Au.
For all we know, Au could be something like 240k/oz and Silver could turn out to be 25k/oz.

None of us really know for sure, but even the projection we did a few years ago seems asinine now.

>>19645392
the absolute worst ep of macro voices. sad

>>19644953
srs is the second to last link in the header

>>19644804
>At some point we might have to just make a pastebin, we have a lot of info/resources stacking up here.
>Maybe some kind of peer-review or rating system to help newfrens decide what to look at first.
this is a great idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVG4Uu7pTr0

God Bless PAN MAN, Schiff Will Win and you too Floor Stacker

>>19645530
They never realize we aren't this stupid...

Guys be honest with me. Do you think this bull is not sustainable?
If so.. then why?
Why is it not sustainable?

Example: It could be not sustainable but it could go on for another 5-6 years (example)

>>19651506
You don't buy PMs so you can be rich in the next couple of years.

I don't mean to be a dick, gold is money, but why buy near ATH? I'll take the risk to wait for sub-1000 after whatever catastrophe is coming.

>>19649020
It's APMEX's asset allocation chart. Be warned, however, the 'Current Value' is determined by their listed starting price with their premiums.

>>19649612
Can you tell me why you chose the war nickels. I feel like they’d be harder to sell unless in bulk due to the low silver content. Not against stackin it just curious why you decided to. Been looking to get some myself just can’t justify it. Hoping you might clarify

>>19651751
Because there's a indefinite time frame of money printing and low interest rates. There is no ceiling for Gold as long as that continues, and it doesn't dump like shitcoin or other financial instruments.

It might dump to previous lows over Thale last 2 weeks, but it's never going back down to where it was at March.

>>19643663
Used to make fun of you goldfags but I added some gold miner positions after the big dump and I've never been more comfy

Should I buy it?

>>19651808
So in a way it's not that gold went from 1300 to 1700 (and therefore it "should" dump now), it's just that the dollar is worth that much less now with no end in sight. This is the new price of the old valuation in a way, fundamentals didn't change significantly. My dumbfuck way of understanding it. But I still feel like I should bet on the official narrative.

>>19651840
for just under $680 USD, eh maybe? if its the only thing you can get
its really pretty though

>>19651887
Yes, you must understand that plenty of things increase in price as the USD loses value.
Most of the time, it's not exactly whatever thing you're matching against USD that's falling in price, but USD itself.
This is why oil decoupled.

>>19651887
Yes. The USD is a competitor with Gold, but now with it weakening from printing, and the future looking increasingly unstable, the macros are better than ever for it. Most Gold mines have come off a 7 year bear market as well, so they're still lean efficient companies.

In fact, China just announced they're abandoning the dollar this evening, not that I think they have what it takes to replace the USD, but it is a precedent.

>>19644804
>>19651351
>At some point we might have to just make a pastebin, we have a lot of info/resources stacking up here.
>Maybe some kind of peer-review or rating system to help newfrens decide what to look at first.

Do any anons know how to set up one of those poll things? Anons could vote for the top three, or top five or whatever. Using that data, we could list like the top 20 in the header and put the rest in a pastebin. I'd do it, but I don't know how.

>srs is the second to last link in the header
Yeah I was afraid of that. I was just adding info as anons suggested it, had a feeling that there would be duplicates. Thanks fren.

>>19652029
no worries at all buddy. was glad to see someone else who thought he was a good source of info. looking into the pastebin now

>>19643663
>>19652029
ANONS, AFTER 9000 HOURS
https://pastebin.com/8HW6EdGt

I added a few more youtubers that i remembered, shadow stack and igold advisor. it makes me happier than a pig in shit to see how many of you anons have been following many of the same sites i've been watching. this is not set in stone but merely a first draft. any and all feedback is welcome and wanted
never met any of you but would gladly call you my brothers
>except you harry dent shill

>>19652442
Tbh I'd like some decent "anti-PM" videos or articles included. Tbh most of the media I've consumed is super bullish on PMs and it'd be nice to read/listen to some other opinions.

>>19652468
fair point and duly noted. a point & counter point
rigorous debate builds character

Latest large gold find in the US. A 3 pound chunk of gold ore from Nevada discovered by a metal detectorist. Never stop looking.

>>19651553
>You don't buy PMs so you can be rich in the next couple of years.
and when?

Guys beside the fed printing (which is a huge red flag on itself) do you expect a second coronavirus wave?

Do you expect an imminent dump on the market? (August - October )

Yes / not why?

>>19652870
Corona Virus is over bro. Right now the next wild shit to take into account is the current Socialist revolution underway in Seattle. People in these parts are getting nervous and thinking about getting into gold/silver.

>>19650421
Very nice looking, how much they run you each?

>>19650583
Hedging against the inevitable collapse of fiat at least in America as gold is real money and if we keep making ‘money’ i.e. dollars, the buying power of gold/silver will still be the same if not rocket up and those with physical assets will be leaps and bounds ahead of those whose ‘money’ is now worth considerably less or nothing at all.

Can someone explain to me the benefit of the spot price system. Seems to me like it would be way better if dealers ran it as an exchange but I don’t know shit. The whole spot price and premiums seem so retarded in times like this.

>>19651949
What’s the source for China doing that? I looked it up and all I see is old news

>>19652782
Forget the gold in that specimen.
Mineral collectors will pay a shitload to get such a nice specimen in their collection.
Are you selling?

>>19651553
>You don't buy PMs so you can be rich in the next couple of years.
yes, i do, fuck off

>>19653563
absolutely this, kek

>>19652442
Ayyyy
Outstanding work, anon!
Also I feel the same way, it fills me with hope that there are others around the country and around the world who are paying attention and concerned...

>>19653170
>Corona Virus is over bro
It could mutate and could there be a second wave
>>19653170
>Right now the next wild shit to take into account is the current Socialist revolution
what socialist revolution?
I can't see it

>>19653170
It's for sure not over and we're gonna see a massive spike over the next two weeks.

>>19653916
>we're gonna see a massive spike over the next two weeks.
could you explain why to a retard?

>>19654130
People realized that the recent market pump was just a bunch of newbies on Robinhood pumping with their stimulus checks. Bears started to unload their heavy bags, the recession is guaranteed. Maybe even a depression, this market is not going back to where it was in a few years.
It will be less grim, if they decide not to lock us down again when Fall/Winter comes and people start dying again. But if they do, it will gut whatever is left of some businesses.
In times like these, gold and silver thrive. Add to that problems with physical delivery of the metal itself and you end up with $45 1oz silver coins on eBay.

>>19646865
What is the actual calculation here?

Isn't it for every dollar printed in the last year compared to every ounce of silver mined?

>>19644343
YOU ARE A MANIAC

>>19654130
I mean at least here in AZ people were dying to get back to normal and the protests dominated the news landscape for two full weeks. People stop paying attention the the "invisible enemy" and start paying attention to people burning down police precincts lol. So everyone wants to return to normal, you have businesses opening back up that are high volume (gyms, hairdressers, etc.) and you have people gathering in massive crowds - all with a 2 week delay on the #s. Maybe I'm a big retard, and honestly I hope that's the case. It's better for everyone if the worst is behind us.

>>19654255
there already shit talking the governor because this week cases of Covid exploded in our state. we probably gonna get locked down again

>>19654180
this

>>19652442
>>19652442
>>19652029
Now do any anons know how to set up some kind of a poll or a vote? I think it would help to get some kind of a ranking for all those youtube resources, so newfrens and oldfrens looking to learn can decide which channels to watch first.

Alternately/in addition to--- maybe a short description for each channel? I think most of us know Mike Maloney and Peter Schiff, and even normies know Ron Paul and Rich Dad/Poor Dad, but a description and/or ranking might help anons decide whether to watch Andrei Jikh or belangp first, which would be most applicable to their situation etc...

>>19655212
mirin the stack

>>19654180
>Bears started to unload their heavy bags
how could you tell that?

>>19654517
>probably gonna get locked down again
the curve is not rising exponentially..

>>19652782
really would like to try detecting but all i will find are old WW2 grenades and junk

>>19654180
>this market is not going back to where it was in a few years
couldn't it be propped up by fed for other 2-3 years?

>>19655470
>can i stack for another 2-3 years?
no

>Showed my little sister my stack and now she wants to stack too.

Is platinum worth buying?

>>19655832
everyone should own 1oz platinum
I wouldnt buy more though.

>>19645144
Well done, do you also have the 100 Kronen Österreich?

>>19654130
There was a “second wave” predicted in autumn when weather turns bad. All these protests and reopen the economy has moved up the timeline to 2nd wave now. American hubris is boundless.

Any Eurofags here?

>>19652870
there will be a second wave. or the first wwve never ends.

>>19644347
No just stick to wheat pennies. Get pike a 3lbs bag and call it a day. Focus on gold and silver.

>>19644899
This.

>>19656748
yes, we are here

>>19652870
I think there will be another dip. But I can't imagine another hard crash. I mean it's mostly titanium hands that are in the market now,

>>19656927
do you buy primarily silver or gold?
bars or coins?
and what kind of coins and bars?
are you in the eurozone?

>>19656965
im in norway, and i buy moslty gold coins. Maple leafs, austrian philharmonics, austrailian kenguru etc

>>19656965
Gold mostly, since in most countries we get to pay VAT on most silver bullion (varies by country). If we feel fancy, we might order VAT free silver from, say, Estonia.

>>19657001
It's called kangaroo, you cunt!

>>19657001
>>19657037
ok, and why do you buy gold?

>>19655736
You could probably get her into it by getting her a coin every year for her birthday or Christmas, or a special occasion.

It might be kinda neat if she's younger, but if she's older she might think its kinda weird. I got into coin collecting because my Grandparents always bought us grandkids some coins every year for holidays and birthdays. Nothing terribly exciting, just stuff like half dollars, Eisenhower dollars, Susan B. Anthony dollars, those proof sets for our birth years. And my dad always told me to search through pocket change for things like wheat pennies, Indian heads, and buffalo nickels.

>>19657128
because i dont belive in the dollar or euro. Gold is real money. The definition of money

>>19657616
do you have any silver?

>>19657873
yes, i do. But my gold stack is bigger. It´s buried in the mountains so you will never find it

>>19657873
What do you want with silver? Its fucking terrible, once you want to do a serious investment you have to buy a huge pile of metal which quickly becomes a liability due to weight and volume.
20.000 USD in silver will get you 31kg of silver at current price levels, whereas for the same money I get a tube of Wiener Philharmoniker gold 1oz coins.

>>19657986
Imagine being this myopic

>>19658008
>myopic

In my islamic european shithole the day may come where precious metals for investments will be forbidden and very likely we have to leave country before or when this day comes.
You think its a farsighted decision to pile up 31kg of silver? Silver -> sucks

And yes I do own some tubes of 1oz silver but its not worth mentioning.

>>19650327
Some European chemist hid his Nobel prize from the Nazis this way during the war. Had it recast after.

>>19650327
yeah its all fun and games until you actually have to handle aqua regia you moron

>>19657949
how much oz of silver do you have?
don't worry, I won't steal your gold.
I'm not a nigger.
you earned it, it's yours.

>>19658073
>In my islamic european shithole the day may come where precious metals for investments will be forbidden
why?

>>19656748
Yes and the premiums here make me cry

>>19658558
>why?

Because the government will not let people flee into gold when the euro is about to collapse and they are imposing taxes on wealth to somehow stabilize the system a few months longer.

>stocks go down 1%
>Don't worry guys we got you with another trillion in fresh fiat

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/mnuchin-scrambles-halt-stock-rout-says-will-pump-another-1-trillion-economy-month

It's so goddamn predictable

>>19658654
what country is that?
>Because the government will not let people flee into gold when the euro is about to collapse
Laws like this come and go. Just wait it out until it's legal again.
> and they are imposing taxes on wealth to somehow stabilize the system a few months longer.
Yeah, good luck with that.
Nothing will work.
The only things that will solve the EU are:
1)expel all non-Europeans
2)take women out of the work-force
3)cancel all debts between euro countries
4)end the EU

>>19658732
Germanistan of course.

They reduced the anonymous over the counter business of gold to 2000€ per transaction in January, three years ago it was 15.000€.
Now besides some gullible retards no one buys anything over 1oz gold per transaction as that would mean the seller is required to verify your data and store it for 10 years.

Taxes on wealth are being discussed and will come after the next election.

>>19658904
what taxes and on what wealth?

>>19659010
Money in your bank account, stocks, precious metals, real estate (except the one you live in) everything combined

taxation is being discussed at 1.5 to 5% starting above 1 million Euro and increasing with absolute wealth

>>19658073
Kek, you do realize that according to Shariah law gold and silver are required to be the currencies; Islam completely outlaws any interest based currency. Why do you think they killed Qaddafi?

>>19655657
>no
why?

I have less than 5 oz and finally getting paid properly again. What should my plan to stack-up ASAP be? I can spend 100-150€ a month max on PMs.

>>19659345
yeah.. how do you think that will work out?

>>19658904
>>19659345
Why don't krautcucks breed? You are like an endangered Panda species that will not reproduce in captivity.

>>19659524
I think what that anon meant with his short no info answer is that this fiat scam is crashing. The United States economically, socially, and politically is destabilizing. Its almost impossible to get large amounts of silver currently, yet somehow it hasn't changed the price. The manipulation is becoming almost knowledgeable to normies. I know it sounds like "any day now'ing" but how this hasn't happened yet is beyond me. That said all the indicators of this going bananas is there. Buy anon, buy as much as possible. This jewish ponzi scheme as a nation is collapsing and the kikes have all the silver chairs.

guys I kknow fucking nothing about business and profit.
Is there anything I can just invest in like once a month for a small ammount and let it build over time? I don't need the money, but I ailso ain't super rich, I just want something I can tuck away for a rain day

>>19660032
just buy a small gold coin once a month and let it accumulate over time.
buy whatever has the lowest premium

>>19660032
silver anon, if you are looking for a get rich scheme with low risk how reward it doesn't exist.

Go silver.

>>19660078
it's not even a get rich scheme I just want something that'll give a decent enough return to make it worth the effort. So I'll give silver a look thanks

>>19660158
silver does have a bigger possible % return, yes.
and the price is already at its minimum.
it's highly unlikely that silver price go down much more.
at least the price on physical silver.

>>19660158
Any time anon. Good luck.

>2017 crypto bubble
>2020 stocks bubble
>2021 pm bubble?

Its happened before, so why not again
when people start seeing 50% gains on metals it will attract the idiots like flys on shit

>>19657128
CUS ITZ SHINY HURRR DURRRR

>>19660276
That said big players hold silver and are not dumping for fiat. It will be interesting to see what happens though but a bubble will definitely start inflating but will it pop that quick? Or will it cause people to just keep holding their shiny rocks?

tell me something thats better money than gold or silver, u can´t. It´s the definition of money

Every single one of my PM ETFs are down today wtf. GOAU, SIL, GDX, GDXJ all raping my ass make it stop. Hopefully they are just lagging gold and will see a major bounce soon.

>>19660404
rare pepes

>>19660404
>tell me something thats better money than gold or silver
Labor which gives the above two value due to the struggle it takes to get it out of the earth. That said agree, there is no physical item on earth that represents labor better than gold and silver.

>>19660426
Mine are up in every timeframe 1w to 1y. Have you been holding for 2 days or something? Lol.

>>19660062
>>19660078
if you don't mind me asking, what is an alright to invest in a month as a starter? how much oz should I try to aim for?

>>19660714
It all depends on your monthly income and how much free money you want to allocate to investing and saving for the future.
Also its important that if you want to buy physical silver or gold you need to verify that you have a dealer near you that you can buy it from, online dealers will also apply but you have to factor in shipping cost.

So lets say you start a monthly investing plan, how much shekels will you be able to invest every single month no matter what happens?
Its important that you do not lower the monthly investment if you have other bills to pay, so make it a sum that you can sustain.

>>19660522
I'm only talking about today. Overall my PM ETFs are up. I just expected a big green day today since the spot price of gold is going higher and these ETFs usually tend to trace spot.

>>19660799
Theyve already moved well beyond spot, counting on sustained high spot values to dump production on. Next big move for silver is $20, or if we keep above $18 for a few months

>>19660798
Was considering putting away between £100-200 a month for this, might be a luaghable ammount I have no idea. I'ts basically until my work sorts its shit out after lockdown and I get the extra shiftsI was midway in negoaitiong with my boss for till lcokdown shit the bed for everyone

>>19660714
>if you don't mind me asking, what is an alright to invest in a month as a starter? how much oz should I try to aim for?

I try to go for 10-20oz a month. I work a contract job so right now things are tight. The goal is 1000oz of silver. Right now I’m at 383oz. Basically I look at what amount of money is spend going out 1 night a week for drinks and I just refuse to do that and put it into silver so around 200-400$ a month when I can spare the cash. Good luck anon.

>>19644146
You forgot the biggest Canadian company. Ngmi

>Stock market shitting the bed
>Crypto pissing it’s pants
>Gold and silver vigilant and steadily rising
This is foreshadowing the new paradigm

>>19660939
SM and PMs move together, one goes down, the other goes up, pms hit a low because of covid, unlikely well see it dip this low again

>>19660899
>might be a luaghable ammount
Checked.

It’s not anon, to give you perspective normies don’t even own an ounce of silver and usually are in debt.

Any amount puts you ahead of 99% of the population. I think it’s only about 50 anons who post here; and they have sub 1000oz and have stacks in the 100-200oz range. There are some whales in here but they are the exception not the rule. That said a great journey starts with a single step. I bought my first 25oz a few years ago and wasn’t into stacking until I saw the repo market freeze up. We are headed for interesting times and any hard money is sound money.

>>19660899
A start is a start with 200gbp you can only buy very small gold coins which usually have high premiums.
The smallest cheap gold coin are the 5,81g fine gold coins of latin coin union, usually you can get them under 3% premium, they will cost you 270GBP currently.
What also is possible, if you want to invest in gold, is to buy every second month, so you have enough money to make it work.

The other route is stacking silver, preferably 1oz coins.

>>19650170
Absolutely beautiful

Does anyone have any advice for a newbie buying Gold in Canada? Do I need to report to the CRA?

>>19650170
ironic that a man with a collction of gold guns was hanged over a war to stop oil being sold priced in gold

>>19659672
Because Germany failed to cure itself in April 1945, the country is terminally pozzed, and it's in Stage IV now.

>>19660899
Agreed. That's a decent little amount, but that's 'go big on silver' money, or 'save and do gold every other month' money.

Myself, I'm far more of a poorfag, and can really only afford to drop $20 a week into PMs (or 80/mo), or the majority of any bonuses I've recently gotten thanks to the wuflu.

Also supplementing that by making sure I look everywhere that silver can generally be that's still in circulation. This means checking coinstars (great for getting fiat change to save up for more PMs), searching large amounts of change for silver, etc.

>>19660714
10-20% of my salary is what I invest in a month. I have to take a few months off to save up for an ounce of gold.

>>19661089
As long as it's 99.5% purity or higher it is a financial instrument and generally exempt from GST/HST when you sell. If you made significant money on the resale of gold they would come after you for capital gains. So just stack your gold as a hedge against inflation.

>>19660899
my autism forces me to buy silver coins only in 20-25 coin tubes. I've been getting 1-2 a month depending on price.

>>19661022
>>19661056
>>19661263
I'll take it all in to consideration, thankyou all for the advice, I'll start slow and see where it gets me. I'm in this for the long haul, patience is one of my few good traits so even if it does go awary it'll be a interesting little expierment to try out at least.
So yeah thanks again and wish me luck. I'll see about buying a few OZ of silver next week as a start.

>>19661007
Indeed, Mr. Bond.

>>19643663
We're all gonna make it.

Pic Related

>>19661846
what would be the price of gold today if that happened?

>>19661846
btw the chart is from 1985.

>>19660878
ETFs haven't moved with the spot price at all today like I expected. SIL, GDX, etc. all down 3-5%. I agree about the move up in spot price I just don't understand why PM miners aren't following suit today.

>>19661930
Lol, I’ve heard mathematically backed predictions of $50,000 per oz if gold accounted for all of monetary supply. Even if the dollar was backed only 40%, it would be over $20,000..

>>19661978
Because miners have balance sheets that determine the value of the company. It’s overall value doesn’t equal to just it’s gold holdings. It is a business just like all the others and likewise has debt. Every PM fag should know this.

Good documentary on gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXrA58CSGbk

Anyone use bullionexchanges.com are they legit? I don't see them in the OP.

>>19662024
Right, I own an business and understand the dynamics of a balance sheet and how if effects valuation. The basis for my assumption is past performance however. To my knowledge the balance sheets and business models of major PM miners hasn't changed over the past few weeks where we have seen stock prices trace PM prices. Not sure why we are seeing an inverse relationship today but I do understand that there are nuances at play.

>>19661930

On the basis of the Dow-Gold ratio, it is not unlikely that we'll get to $5000 in terms of today's money, a 3x gain in terms of real purchasing power.

What's a good site to use for buying silver in the UK?

>>19662287
I'll be disappointed if it only goes to 5000

>>19661543

Ordered 2g of gold this week, adding to the 2.5 I already have. It's not even close to being good enough, but I figure it's better than nothing.
Christ, I wish I'd started this sooner.

>>19662301
Bullionbypost is rock solid.

>>19661446
Okay fren, best of luck to you.
Post a thread with your first silver purchase.

>>19662467
Did you buy this as a 2g gold "bar"?
If so you may want to consider old gold coins like 4 Florin Austrian 2,9g which most certainly will yield a lower premium.

>>19662226
They are a good alternative. Have bought from them before. Not the lowest prices but some good deals if you lurk

>>19653833
>what socialist revolution?
>I can't see it
Look up "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone"

>>19662632
Nah, BBP don't seem to stock 2g on their own, only 2.5. Was on the fence about how much I wanted to spend, and split it into two orders of 1g. Should have just bitten the bullet and gone for the 2.5g from the start, but I wasn't thinking straight.
You in the US? All other suppliers I've seen charge an arm and a leg for deliveries under a certain threshold, so my choice of stock is limited.

>>19656491
We have in germany 34% premiums on platinum products because we have a value-added tax of 19%,
In silver u pay a premium of 24%.
It would be in normal times around 15-20%.
Gold premiums are normal.
U can get an 1 oz bar with only 1,72% premium

How high are your premiums on pms in america,australia or other eu-countries?

>>19662322

By the time it gets to $5000 in terms of today's money, inflation might have pushed it to $10,000 or $15,000. What I'm saying is that, in terms of real purchasing power, we're going at least 3x. If you want greater leverage, buy the miners, and if you want extreme leverage buy the junior miners. GDXJ and SILV might go 10x. First Majestic Silver went 17x during the last bull market.

>>19662854
>in terms of real purchasing power, we're going at least 3x.
if it doesn't go above 5x in real purchasing power I'll be very disappointed.

>>19661427

How is anyone going to know your gains? If you walk into a coin/bullion shop and sell a 2005 gold maple 1oz for spot, who's gonna ask you when you received it?

>>19662977

It very well may go above that level, since we are now entering into the same high inflation environment which we had in the 70s and 80s, and the price of gold is inversely correlated with real yields. Nominal yields were still 5% in 2008. Real yields are now negative. The Fed is completely out of ammunition.

>>19656965
>do you buy primarily silver or gold?
It depends on the money u can spend and the place to store silver.
Silver is atm cheap vs gold but it's hard to say, when silver will start a rallye.
How much safety do u want? Buy gold.
U like some risks then go for more silver.

>bars or coins?
bars are more regional known and coins are more global known.
If u intend to emigrate to another country get coins,because it's much easier to trade them vs fiat money.

>and what kind of coins and bars?
Most global known gold coins are krugerrands and maple leafs.
For USA American silver/gold eagle and probably buffalo.
Kangaroos from Australia are also well known.
Australian philharmonics are well known in europe and for people , which dislike the queen on coins.

>are you in the eurozone?
Yes. Germany.

>>19662846
fuckkk that would piss me off so much. Can you just buy off the books from another individual and not claim it?

>>19663438
Sure, u can buy from a private person.
But u have to trust them, that u buy real pms.

How are we feeling today?

>>19663536
Trust is gut, ein Messschieber ist besser.

>>19643873
Turns out buying silver eagles at $23 was buying low, who would have thought?

>>19664198
>tfw converted my stack of pandas, maples, libs and roos into ALL ASEs for 30$ extra
>tfw turned 19-22$ SHITCOINS into CHAD 27$ eagles
>tfw made 470$ on the conversion, and eagles keep rising

>>19644347
Shit investment at 1$ an ounce. But if you re in for a few meme coins they are great.

I have 5 and unless I come across one that is epic, that is all I'll have.

What's the best place to buy gold as an European now that Europeanmint is sold out?

>>19650229
What is this coin called?

>>19664398
local pawn shop

>>19664398
that place in belgium where all the jews go to sell diamonds

>>19664198
Only philarmonic are available in Yurope and they are at fucking 25€. I'm waiting for more shit to be available, need some good coins at 18€ asap

>>19664571

>>19664571
>gif.jpeg

>>19662226
Fulfilled a bunch of my orders in reasonable time so I'd say they're legit. Come up a lot in the compare link in the OP (findbullionprices.com)

>>19661089
Check your local coin dealers. There are always one to two on a city (if they sell numismatics then they will have pure silver and gold lying around as a side business). If you are feeling desperate go into your bank and check on the prices. they are 'ok'.
After that look at online dealers, In the nd go for the deal that is best for you. I tend to go local as I get the PMs right away and the prices are just the same when shipping is considered.

>>19661427
This more or less. the only real way I'm dumpling silver and gold would be to barter for other assets of value, food, or if we return to a gold standard.

>>19663150
>How is anyone going to know your gains?
shhhhhhh anon.... exactly...

>>19662854
Do you have any thoughts on decent miners to get into right now? Or just GDXJ and SILV?

>>19660917
Who is the biggest canadian company?

>>19663683
Comfy af as always

>>19665119

I like First Majestic a lot, because the CEO is a committed silver bull. Other than that, I can't recommend my small-caps, because even I think they're very risky. I could only recommend GDX, GDXJ, SIL, SILJ.

newfag here, how do you eventually turn your silver back to liquidity?

>>19666192
high temperature

>>19665480
I wish knew more about ETF's. Someone told me holding them long term is bad. I need to read more on the matter. Oh well. Miners for me for now

>>19666192
Silver can always be turned back into whatever local currency you use. It's highly liquid although you will lose a few percent when buying and selling so it's only recommended as an extremely long term investment.

Is this a round two of margin calls of paper gold/silver being sold off?