/biz/ - Business & Finance

Why did I have to buy into the shitshow meme called IVR?

>>19648744
>buying into memes at the top

first for WFC rebound

>>19648744
You can laugh at me, Anon: I bought into SSL.

>>19648750
does /biz/ ever shill anything that isn't at the top?

THE JEWS ARE AT IT AGAIN

REEEEEEE

>>19648751
nothing rebound
nothing move
everything go sideways forever
complete heat death of the stock market

what brokers do the non-poorfags (at least 100k) use?

>>19648751
It fucking better. I'm bag holding too much of it. Way too fucking much.

Uhhh we exchanged pics, she called me handsome and i told her she looks pretty and i asked her what shes up to. She never responded. That was 24 hours ago. Whats the next move? Do i hold out until she texts me?

>Jerome deciding pandering to niggers is more important than making money

I wasn’t a racist before, but if this in any way impacts my money, I swear here today I will become the next hitler

>>19648744
if you want REITs, look into Canadian REITs like H&R, RioCan, or CHP. Retail businesses in Canada have been getting wage and rent subsidies since April, never mind interest-free loans until 2022. It's a wonder why it took so long for it to start mooning up, up to you to look into the risks yourself obviously. if anything, I'd argue the risk is mainly because these REITs diversified into US too

>>19648758
>>19648750
>>19648744
You fags do know that SSL and IVR are longer term holds than 7 days right?

Shill me a stock that has
1. Earnings growth
2. Profitable or has a plan to be profitable
3. COVID/slowdown immunity
4. Low debt
5. Isn’t at its ATH
I have 10k to spend

>>19648771
So dividends do win out after all.

been fucking with ToS's Options Hacker.
these looked pretty juicy with that fat Delta/Gamma multiplier to premium.
theta's a little high, but still

>>19648744
You should've bought last week.

>>19648765
I ALSO GOT JEWED

>>19648793
HTZ
fuck off lazy faggot

Green by end of day tomorrow.

FUTURES ARE RECOVERING

>>19648807
When is the next jobs report?

Any chance tankers go up for June oil contracts? I’m holding eurn and green, wondering if I should sell before the dividend on the 12th.

>>19648793
TSM actually hits all of that, just barely for 5. obviously
frankly Im pissed TSM is overbought again, it never goes to oversold territory and it annoys me since I want to buy into it. I might just suck it up soon.

>>19648744
Don't worry anon at least you didn't buy in with GNUS at its peak. It could be worse

>>19648827
TSMC is actually on my watchlist. I am so overweight semis though because they just keep going up

>>19648809
They got pumped yesterday into a dump today. They are being used as tools now.
>>19648793
Do your own work, faggot

>>19648815
>>19648815
tmrw

>>19648853
Holy fuck.

>>19648806
Thanks for the tip. Since I’m not an asshole like you are, I’ll give you one right back. INMD

>>19648853
what the fuck were you thinking

I bought AAL at its peak and want to kms

>$IVR

Hurray that Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin dude said he's open for another round of Govt checks getting sent out! $2400 bucks round 2 coming soon I hope...

>>19648792
How dare you say that anon.

>>19648885
Literal everyone get back in the FAANG lifeboat

>>19648792
This is what I don't get. Literally every REIT suffered because of job loss and no mortgage payments. Isn't the whole point of REIT's to go sideways forever?

>>19648793
CODX

Holding dal and mro. Should I just suck it up and dump tommorow?

>>19648853
F

>>19648792
IVR might not exist in 7 days

This is my entire portfolio. Say something nice about it

>>19648904
Nah, give it time man. They'll (FED) be dumping more green wads into the system soon enough..

>>19648912
Don't reply to him. He wants you be doing the needful.

>>19648904
Anyone that touched anything related to oil was signing up for a baghold of months or years.

>>19648875
>>19648870
The crash glitched the app and my stop loss never triggered. Bagholding for an eternity now

>>19648900
Exactly. And with the Fed literally saying they will continue to pump money into assets that companies like IVR hold, I really don't understand how people are predicting they'll fail

>>19648793
Honestly any top tech stock. Nivida, apple, Intel, amazon

>>19648776
can anyone pls assist w/ technical support here

>>19648943
This is why I'm totally unafraid. I wish I caught the 4.5 slip and bought another 1k shares.

wait what the fuck
apparently US people have rules on how often you can trade or else you get counted as pattern day trader etc.?
I've never heard of this with our canadian stock trading.

>>19648772
Mostly Schwab, some TD in my experience.

>>19648776
feeling bearish on this desu

>>19648876
You should kill yourself.
Anyone with a brain dumped AAL on Friday when it was $22.
Watch as they announce chapter 11 soon.
>>19648883
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>19648904
DAL is constantly getting hammered.
Wait for breakeven and then buy either ALK or LUV instead.
Or alternatively buy BA when it hits $190 tomorrow morning.
>>19648912
PLEASE NO

>>19648965
It’s so they can keep da common man down

>>19648965
>I've never heard of this with our canadian stock trading.
Because your stocks are leaf.

>>19648965
Selling and buying the same stocks within a day, yes. You need account minimums to do so mandated by the SEC

>>19648965
all i know in australia if you hold a stock for 12 months before you sell you only pay half the tax on the gains
otherwise you pay full tax on all realised gains

I love people have stop losses on meme stocks that frequently gap double digits.

fuck man..i feel like its going to be impossible for me to recover from 50% portfolio loss.

Alright anons rate this idea.

>Cash out all my stocks and options. >Go all in on buy calls expiring January 2021 with about 100k.
>Less gains that far out but safer than a weekly.
>If stocks go back to at least 80% of their former highs I just made an easy 3x to 7x depending on what I pick.
>Cash out and stay a neet.

>>19648957
I got in a few times below $5 in the last week, so I'm actually still green on IVR. It's everything else that's actually got me in the red after the last couple days

>>19648824
I'm not selling my tankers for at least a few more months. The rollercoastering sucks, but honestly the dividend payouts right now are giving enough growth for me.

>>19648992
we can trade on the NYSE too

Are we just going to pretend that TD Ameritrade didn't shit the bed this morning?

>>19648772
Ameritrade if they have a shitty bank. Schwab is rather unique in being both a bank and a broker with an interface that doesn't quite look like its dated from the geocities days.
Really just get the FUCK out of RH.

>>19648941
F

>>19648793
Literally GNUS

>>19648919
p/e is off the charts but their balance sheet is strong.
good luck.

>>19648776
Send her the navy seal thing

>>19648983
what would you do?

>>19648904
dont see oil having a rally for another 3 weeks until OPEC meeting. They just had it 2-3 days ago and they just extended it for 1 month

day of the rake when??

>>19648758
>thinking SSL is meme just because you see it on here

heh, ngmi

>>19649030
actually i'm retarded, p/e is fine

>>19648758
>not being green on SSL
ngmi

I have been reading out general trading analysis for the past couple days and would appreciate any input as to what you guys look for when evaluating when to enter and exit. Moving averages, RSI, MACD, etc etc. Are these worth a damn?

>>19648999

go boomer and put it all into coca cola with 3% dividends. With reinvestment you'll make back the money after 20 years.

>>19649041
Not soon enough.
This absolute fucking newfag giving advice like he knows up from down... repulsive.

>>19648793
Any utility, most consumer staples, and some defense companies.

>>19649030
>>19649054
Okay, so what do you think of my play? Will I make it?

>>19649076
Not really no

>>19649048
>I follow what analysts say
Dude. Never EVER gonna make it
Smart money will literally bleed you dry every time.
>>19649030
>p/e is off the charts
You what?
I just find it funny that of RTX, CARR, and OTIS it is RTX that keeps shitting itself. And it was the one shilled endlessly by boomers here.

NKLA is gonna tank to below 30 dollars possibly go to around 20 when it does buy June 29th is when pre orders happen we're gonna be swimming

>>19649003
>they don’t go up
>you lose everything

>>19648793
COF (capital one)
>Undervalued in the current market because they are a CC lender. Fair value according to research firms is $120+.
>Earnings negative atm, however a large portion of that was written off as cash set aside to weather the storm
>Most conservative CC underwriters with a proven trackrecord of thriving during recession (from 2008)
>zero rates only pushes CC APR to like 17%, so isnt at risk like a mortgage lender.
>Based fairbanks at the top with a conservative culture throughout the company
They hold debt, sure, but god damn do they do a good job of it.

Fed said they’re out of tools and we’re fucked. Sell.

>>19648919
Why did you go all In this

>>19649076
Computers have killed retails chances at most gains. At best what you can hope for buying or selling overreactions to "catalysts". Before I switched into options entirely I was swing trading on the time scale of 1-3 months using EMA5 and EMA20 to "time" my entry point. Exit point was based on projected future earnings.

>>19649121
Institutional money has millions of shares of SSL and other stocks that have been mentioned on here. I'm pretty sure they didn't buy them to lose money

>>19649091
depends when you bought but their fundamentals are solid. prolly shoot to enter at $17 if i were to play it

>>19649177
this

I'm a newfag and VERY retarded, I have a question about dividends.

So CO pays $0.41 quarterly right? So does that mean if I buy 100 shares I get $41 per quarter in dividends?

>>19648751
I was hoping for sub 29 in the morning to buy the dip. I might buy even at 30.

>>19649177
Why wouldn't you just buy a call then?

>>19649176
It's still relatively easy to make money investing longterm. People pretend that stock market is forward looking, but it's not that forward looking. These people are looking in-between 1 second and 1 year in advance. The prices are set by short-and-medium-term greed, despite what people claim

>>19649220
Yes.

>>19649148
>corona crisis
>buy COF
feels like bad idea

>>19648776
Was this the person you were going to go on a date with?

>$MSGS
>$MSGE

What the fuck happened to these stocks? I could've been a fucking millionaire if you retards even mentioned them here. Why the fuck do I even read these threads?

>>19649239
Isn't that kind of retarded then? Since it's $48 a share that would take like over 300 months to get my money back.

>>19649076
RSI is a simple enough indicator to still be useful in a clown market.
like I put a note for myself to sell on Monday if it was green because it would be deep into 70+ RSI, but I got greedy and expected it to rally within overbought territory for weeks (felt like that would happen with all the hopium).
fuck Im never going to second guess past-me again.
I bought into REITs when RSI was close to 30 last month, worked out perfectly

>>19649003
Safer than a weekly is not saying much lol. Take that 100k and put it entirely into AAPL instead. Safe, more profitable than SPY, and has a great dividend.

>>19649220
>CO
do you mean KO lad

>>19649235
He asked about trading, not investing. If your time horizon is more than a year than it honestly doesn't matter what the price is right now if you do your DD right. In fact, you might be better off just buying at random times to remove your emotions entirely from it.

>>19649276
Yeah coke

>>19649277
>He asked about trading, not investing.
ah fuck my reading comprehension aint great

>>19649076
I watch a stock for a while and try to get a feel for it's ebb and flow, general volatility. When I'm ready to nibble, I set the lowest price I think I can get into it for, and immediately set a 2nd limit order lower than that so I can get a full bite if it hits my lowball offer.
When the symbol starts getting shilled on /biz/ and r/robinhood, there's your exit signal.

.. and that's the entirety of the TA that has made me 35k since March.

>>19649258
You're not looking to get your money back. You're looking to put in a large investment to gain a large amount of money. Say its .50 cents. I put in 2 million dollars. That's about 76 thousand dollars every year. With that money I can put it into the dividend again for a larger return, or take that money and use it to invest in other sectors.

>>19649245
yes

>>19649176
>Computers have killed retails chances at most gains.
Can you elaborate? Like Buffet has a supercomputer in the basement cranking out more operations per second than anyone's laptop at home? Isn't most/all of this information up for grabs to the general public anyway? Or can Buffet's computers do more than the TDAmeritrade thinkorswim servers?

My intention is to mostly stick to options. Shouldn't the things I mention apply to options trading as well if the goal is to time the enter and exit?

>>19649289
You mean Koke.

>>19649220
Yeah. You'd get $164 a year. Reinvest that so your looking at 3.xx interest a year. Or you could look at T. Fatter divvy (0.52), Higher yield (6.6x) and a cheaper share price so you'd bag more shares per dollar. (so more divvy per dollar). I've got both KO & T.

>>19649258
The yield of KO is 3.37% annual. It will pay out 3.37%/4 per quarter. To "get back" what you put into buying the underlying (stock) you'd need to wait about 29 years

When is this shit gonna go up again

>>19649232
Because buying shares of a South African oil company's stock is enough of a gamble already for this guy

>>19649293
I understand that, but it just seems like you're never getting back your initial investment, unless your end goal is to sell. Are dividends really just there to be reinvested? I got the impression people use them to make passive income.

itt weak hands getting shook the fuck out

>>19649292
>When the symbol starts getting shilled on /biz/ and r/robinhood, there's your exit signal.
kek lol I should have taken my profits sooner when people started being more accepting of REITs here.
dunno why +25% within a month is so unremarkable to me now, but man it's crazy how I held on for longer until my trailing stop hit. The greed emotions really got to me, trailing stop saved my ass.

>>19649235

People trade stocks based on what they think other people will do in the future on all sorts of different time frames. These are all just predictions and as events play out people change their mind all the time. Also most of the reason people trade stocks isn't even based on any regard for the intrinsic value of the stock in the future on any time frame, but based on price action or the lack of other places to put their money.

>>19649347
Yeah, happened to me yesterday with $FSLY. Feels bad.

>>19648772
Fidelity because they wont sell your soul to shareholders (private firm). TD Ameritrade because their thinkorswim platform is fucking packed with data. You can program your own charts and order rules and stuff if ur into that.

>>19649343
Yes, but they aren't there for small timers to put in their meager income. It's for retirement when you make 100k a year+ and sink 20k into that fucker every month to get dividends for reinvesting.

CVX > XOM
PEP > KO
HD > LOW
VZ > T
MA > V

>>19649347
A stop loss is only a week hand to shills, Anon.

fuck man, if IVR gets back up to 6-7 I think I'm gonna dump at least half

>>19649298
>Can you elaborate? Like Buffet has a supercomputer in the basement cranking out more operations per second than anyone's laptop at home?
I should have qualified my response was for trading not investing >>19649277
Buffett is one of the last great FA investors. Most of them checked out in the 80s and 90s. He's had a lifetime of success that has been slid recently due to tech.
>My intention is to mostly stick to options. Shouldn't the things I mention apply to options trading as well if the goal is to time the enter and exit?
If you are doing it on the time scales of months that is what I do. Learn your greeks. They are your friends. A good first dive might be a straddle. That strat eats your gains but it also limits your losses. Once you get confident enough in your method you can drop the hedge.

>>19649347
If I held AAL through March till Friday then I can definitely hold IVR.

Iron hands will prevail!

i bought SPXS a week ago. did i time it right, anons? am i gonna make it?

>>19649383
So really you are only getting your value if you are sinking a few hundred thousand and keep resowing quarterly for fatter and fatter stacks. Am I spot on? If so should I even bother sinking a grand into KO or McDonald's?

Thanks for taking the time btw.

>>19649251
https://www.barchart.com/stocks/performance/price-change/advances?orderBy=percentChange&orderDir=desc

you can find them in certain places if those are the plays you look for. Course you'd never find me discussing it. maybe i should.

>>19649385
>VZ > T
What about CTL?

>>19649343
Thank snowball. You buy. Then each month you buy more. Let drip work. Over time it adds up. If there's any divvy hikes it really adds up.The best part is that once you need it (income) you merely flip off the drip switch. No selling required. A constant stream of income from that point on till you die. You can also leave the stocks to your heirs after you die so they'd enjoy the wealth.

>>19649403
Imagine actually believing this. Boomer worshipers are so retarded lmao.

>>19649295
We've failed you. Holding out until she texts back may not work because she doesn't seem immediately interested, but that strategy generally works well in circumstances where you know the person a bit better. I would maybe text "lmao, I've never been ghosted this fast in my life (smug or laughing emoji)" and tease her a bit if she responds.

I've honestly been laughing my ass off while crying tears of blood.
Seeing /biz/ get rused by a meme stock and buying at the top while I also did the same is fucking hilarious to me for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90sl94g7PE

Why isn't the nasdaq 24/7?

>>19649223
I got in at 30 to sell covered calls on it for ~1% a week. Just need it to stay in that range.

>tfw sold my Apple stock to buy Hyatt Hotels

>>19649445
>Flip the drip switch off

Please explain this

>>19649403
thanks a lot. I've seen a fair amount of websites mentioning all of these options "plays" and will focus on the straddle to start.

Reference for others:

https://www.optionsplaybook.com/option-strategies/

BUY AMD WHILE YOU STILL CAN THE PS5 ANNOUNCEMENT IS TOMORROW

>>19649240
>nothingburger flu
>Not buying cheapies
explain

>>19649449
We all in this boat together.
Well I’m in oil boat, not tanker meme.

I'm selling my Tesla stock tomorrow before it goes down like the Titanic

>>19649446
I mean it was true for decades. Beat most mutual fund managers. Won a bet against hedge fund managers. Only in the last bull market did an index finally start beating him when they have been clobbering both since 2000
>>19649422
I don't think this is the strategy any more. Growth stocks have been outpacing value for a long time. You can swap growth stocks for dividend stocks later for the passive income in retirement. But honestly, bonds do the same thing.

futures clawing for life

>>19649447
that just sounds terrible to me bro

Is anyone loading up on even more SSL, IVR, AMPY, MITT, TWO, etc while things are stupid cheap or are people waiting to see if things take a shit?

So what's the feel on the street these days? Bullish or bear? Irrationality or normality?

>>19649541
I might buy 20 more $IVR shares like the cuck that I am.

>>19649484
Your brokerage account has a setting. You can turn off drip for the whole account or a single stock. (Mutual funds are the exception, those you gotta sell, then re-buy selecting not to reinvest option)

>>19649449
If you're concerned about 1 day of correction after and 1 day of volatility after a 100% increase in value, that still resulted at the stock sitting 3 dollars higher than it was 2 weeks ago you just need to look at the bigger picture. EVERYTHING is recovering. REIT's are delayed because they rely on mortgages paid in order to turn a profit. They invest and develop properties and real estate. It's not like they're being bought outright, they make money off interest. Mortgages that were frozen are now being paid by people who are going back to work and probably don't want to put off the inevitable bills. The only thing that hit REIT's this hard was the 2008 collapse, and they still recovered. Feel no fear.

>>19649500
Sell the news, its already been priced in

>>19649447
Yeah I mean I don't feel like it was a total ghost but at the same time I don't know how to re-approach her without seeming desperate

Jesus fucking Christ you guys must be bored tonight to do all this spoonfeeding.

>>19649385
PEP is a better shutdown stock because Frito-Lay, but that’s a downside in the reopening trade

>>19649449
Ah yes, I’ve paid that tuition fee myself. It was a harsh lesson.

>>19649500
>market is closed
>news that isn’t news
The announcement is Thursday morning Jap time. It’s likely already baked in.

If NTDOY sells off from this, buy that instead of whatever is pumping.

>>19649541
Dude. No.
I only have only one memestock personally.

>>19649563
But I want more stocks I bought.

>>19649552
>So what's the feel on the street
confused
with homoerotic undertones
bulls are cocky
bears are immature and insincere
old boys are fearful, young boys are greedy

Where are the GNUSchads at ? Are you ready for your trip to the moon on Monday because of the big announcement? Feels good

>>19649593
Frito-lay is never a downside

>>19649621
What did they announce?

>>19649636
Well it lost the tailwind of people snacking because theyre home all day. But it gains the tailwind of Gatorade, if team sports start up again?

futures traders playing amongst themselves this evening. Stop loss snipe to open the show, dip bought, buying rejected at previous support (for now). As far as futures are concerned, bulls will want to see break above and hold above that 3180 going in to premarket tomorrow morning.

>>19649552
Nobody knows anymore. There doesnt seem to be a strong signal till the next news meme comes along. Fed speech mixed bullish and bearish notions.

Personally, thinking its a dip and not a rug pull, maybe another day or two of red. Could be wrong, but please jesus no rug pull.. not yet..

Me I'm doing both growth and divvies long term. Also got a few short term plays for the cash boost. The long term stocks I'm never selling. Be nice to tell my heirs "yeah grandad bagged Disney when it was just a bit over 100 per" Meanwhile Disney is at over 600... (What? hey 60+ years anything can happen)

>>19649660
The announcement is Monday the 15th of June . Rumor is Disney will but the company

>>19649560
No way are those diamond hands in any way cuck. Shit is so unironically based, and next week youll understand why.

>>19649690
*buy the company

>>19649691
What do you know, anon?

>>19649663
if sports start back up people will be buying plenty of chips to watch the game on the big screen

the amount of gatorade drank by athletes isn't a very large amount compared to the amount drank by high school/ college athletes in the fall anyway

I bought the fucking top in the Russell. I can’t believe it. I thought it was time for the early cycle trade, and I got faked out.

And I did it with 3X leverage. Fuck my life.

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THESE FUTURES??? WHY DID THEY JUST FALL OFF A CLIFF??? BECAUSE WE’RE NOT REOPENING OUR STUPID BORDER???!!!!

>>19649690
If a company is buying another one how will this moon?

>>19649137
Bro, it's a shitcoin. It's going to ZERO

>>19648776
She isnt interested. If she were she would have responded immediately. Think how fast you would respond if she texted you. When you really like someone you make time for them.

>>19649663
also that girl kind of has a big old conehead lmao

>>19649720
I was thinking about little league and after school sports and that kind of thing. But that’s a good point about pro sports.

Uh oh lads its happening

>>19649343
It doesn't do much for you until you get 10-50k in if you can get a 5-10% dividend. $5,000 in only gets you $250-500. It's enough to get a couple shares or something, but you're still mostly buying more shares with another source of income. $50,000 gets you $2,500-$5,000 a year and you can sometimes opt in to have your dividends paid out in new shares at a discount, but if you plan on living off your divs, you're better off only doing that if you have a cash cushion.

How’s it going bros? I’m up 9% today, 15% the past two days. Line truly just goes up. How’s everyone else doing?

>>19649690
Uh, why would they buy now? Why pay more when they could've just bought the company a few months ago for a whole lot less. Goes against logic. Supposed to buy cheap not high.

>>19649674
action is on Nasdaq futures tonight
S&P is just following along

>>19649724
nice pits

>>19649589
That's the problem, there's an elephant in the room and it's hard to pick back up a conversation like that. She is either very busy, very forgetful, or in the most likely case, not that interested in communicating with you. If you refrain from texting her, she may pick it up again but if she doesn't it becomes even more awkward if you decided text her a week from now. At least if you acknowledge the elephant in the room, you'll show that you're not fazed by it and it gives you a platform to joke around and gauge if she is interested. If she is not, at least you're not wasting your time wondering about what happened and you can get on with your life.
>>19649530
Yeah? What would you say?

>>19649751
What?

>>19649003
>80% of their former highs
We kind of are already past that. Nasdaq set new highs and SP500 is pretty close too. But calendar leap calls are pretty good strategy here.

>>19649725
If company X buys company Y they can specify terms to buy out shareholders of Y. They could convert company Y shareholder stock into cash based on the price at end of a predefined date. Or they may convert equivalent numbers of company Y shares into X at a predetermined ratio. Or X might just set a price for Y at a certain date (this has to be announced). If the stock of Y is trading away from that number before it is revealed it will stick to that number.

>>19649768

>>19649742
thanks you make a great point

it feels like total bait, like she's daring me to text some beta shit now

I guess I'll wait

>>19649760
>action is on Nasdaq futures tonight
>S&P is just following along
Hmm... let's have a look. And yep, I think you're right about that. Thanks.

>>19649788
>, like she's daring me to text some beta shit now
Whats more important to you, your dignity and self respect or some thots approval?

Thank you Tim Apple

>>19649828
very clearly thot approval

Uh Disney could've bought GNUS in April for just 0.24 cents a share. They didn't. Why would they wait till now and pay out almost 5 (well 10 cause meh premium price). Again supposed to buy cheap not high.

you bought your tesla puts, right anon?

>>19649785
Ahhh ok the only gripe I have with this company is they’re starting their own tv channel the same day they’re supposedly to be bought so does this mean it’s like a double moon cause of them being bought/ shit ton of revenue from the tv channel

>>19648965
Wtf really? Good to know.

>>19649500
>buying AMD instead of TSMC

>>19649474
Maybe I should get into covered calls

>>19649003

stocks aren't at 80% they are essentially back at all time highs or higher. maybe that's a good yolo momentum play in the short term. But if this is a reversal and stocks drop say 10% you could probably still sell those year out calls for maybe 1/3 or 1/2, better than loosing it all. Long term there is a big chance we'll be much lower by next year, and any big drop from here is going to decimate those calls.

>>19649752
I totally understand what you're saying but from my perspective it just doesn't seem worth it. Take O (ticker) for example, $0.23 monthly return, priced at $61 per share. Even if I bought 1,000 shares at 61k, I'm still only getting a monthly return of a measly $230. I guess I could sink that back in for another 3 or 4 shares a month but at that point, what would even be the purpose? It would take me another 20-25 years to get to a point where I could even double my return by reinvesting my profits every single month.

I'd be better off investing that 61k into blue chips, right? I'm sort of playing devil's advocate because I don't fully understand what the end game is for divies.

>>19649925
>Maybe I should get into covered calls
The Bogs saw when I did that and put $25 DAL covered calls up when it was at 18. It achieved $25 in 2 days.

>>19649003
I’d take that if offered. But I have no idea what options would 3x off stocks going down from today’s prices?

>>19649928
>Long term there is a big chance we'll be much lower by next year
Why do you say this?

>>19648965

only if you have less than $25k in your account. Another funny rule is that you can't invest in many private companies without being an accredited investor. Where "accredited investor" is literally defined as having a million dollars.

>>19649593
>jap time
Bro what
Also I mean buy when u can ofc ik the market is closed

Anyone have any opinions on DSE?

>>19649948
that's so silly
meanwhile we canadians can just trade off a tax-free savings account

>>19649932
Never ending income for one. Long as the company don't go under from the moment you flip off that drip switch that income is yours year after year like a paycheck. You can also pass it on to your heirs in a will or trust so they'd enjoy a leg up in life.

>check my stocks for the first time in a few days

uh... what happened to my MGM and DAL shares?

>>19649939

>>19649788
Just text her, you pussy. You're showing that you're beta by just assuming she doesn't ever want to talk to you again or that this is a week long shit test.

so I recently made a TD Ameritrade account because Robinhood keeps fucking up my trailing stops, why the fuck is the interface so clunky? Is this really one of the biggest trading websites? It looks like it hasn't been updated since the 90s.

Are the other trading websites like Schwab and Fidelity like this too?

>>19649985
Typical "fear tactics" Big fish want cheap shares so they scare little fish into selling.

>>19649985
Jew shake out

>>19649742
oh shit so this is why i pissed off some chicks by texting like over 24 hours later..

>>19649992
after some consideration, I think you're right
it's 10:40pm I think I'll text her tomorrow

>>19649384
What separates weak hands from a solid erections is doubling down on dips.

>>19649976
So it's really just a nice little guaranteed extra income and nothing else? I guess if you have the money to spend to get a decent return it makes sense, and you can always sell back the stocks.

Am I getting it now or is there something else I'm missing?

>>19648751
We're going to be rich

>>19649932
>I'd be better off investing that 61k into blue chips, right?
For stability? Yeah. For returns? No.
I have 100 shares of CEQP on a cost basis of 15.31 a share, and that pays $250 a year.
The whole point of dividend investing is the passive income. Unless one of your companies takes a massive shit on itself and cuts/cancels their dividends, you can put a million dollars into a portfolio and expect anywhere from 3% to 15% a year. It's also worth pointing out qualified dividends are taxed at capital gains rates, meaning if you build a solid portfolio that's paying $100k in qualified dividends, you're only paying $9,093.60 in taxes a year.

>>19649786
>>19649751
uh oh stinky
definitely not a good time to be a bull
definitely not

Post them returns

100% invested in the Tech sector since 2004 and have been pulling these numbers ever since. Diversifying is a meme.

>Hurr durr Tech bubble go pop
Nigga as long as you sell when your Grandma starts talking about whatever you're invested in you'll be fine.

Grow a pair.

>>19649944

Economy has never crashed this bad before. So its an unknown. But fact is, you're buying an instrument that is priced as having a less than 50% win rate. That is if you hold for the full duration, its priced there there is over a 50% chance you will lose 100%. In the short term its more like a leveraged investment but you're also long volatility.

>>19650009
>not using ToS

>>19649786
>no tvix
>no srty
why anon why

>>19649985
profit yoink

does this work

>>19650053
What are your biggest, consistent movers? Biggest let-downs?

>was up 30% overall 2 days ago
>was stupid and didn't sell the top
Still going to be optimistic bros, I'll internalize this lesson and use it next time.

There is beauty in this world yet.

>>19649985
>what happened
jerome gave a speech and out of nowhere started talking about racism and black lives matters. he even knelt down and put his fist up in the air. then he shed a single tear. the market saw this as a moment of weakness and sold off. it was kino.

>>19648792
There 7 year holds.

Is there an app that's as accessible as Robin Hood, but for Europeans? I wanna lose noney with zero effort.

>>19648715
Today was the funniest day
Jerome is about to get on the mic
Spy at 322
Jerome talks about niggers
Spy at 318

>>19650128
it worked once... doesn't mean it will work again.

lmao @ bullniggers

>>19650134
>was stupid and didn't sell the top
And how would you have determined that to be the top? Unless you had a TA setup that told you to sell that day and you ignored it for some reason, there is no way for you to say you made any particular mistake. Calling the top on a hunch is pure luck.

not even mad cus my stock only account is doing fantastic

>>19650128
you're also missing that those are also reactive indicators using balanced averages of more data that was taken from the future... so you're basically just trying to use data from 2 years ago and apply it to a different market.

>>19650166
You had like 2 green weeks in a row you fucking retard. If you are playing roulette and win 14 times in a row, you have 13 opportunities to cash out ahead lmao.

How old are you? Quit while you're ahead, tranny.

>>19650128
the market is simple... you just buy or sell... there is no hold, there is no wait... holds are cucked to longs and waits are cucked to shorts... it's just buy and sell and there is nothing else but price.

BP or XOM?

thoughts on VAL?

>>19650205
Calling for a reversal because something has "run up too much", in your estimation, is poor trading and low percentage. Often you are leaving a massive amount of money on the table if you trade like that.

nasdaq just dumped.

>>19650205
Some people have longer time horizons than 2 weeks.

When will these fucking Pixar fantasies end

>>19650248
Well ain't that some shit.

>>19650128
RSI is close to overbought territory? Bad time to buy in.
More reasonable RSI, or even better, towards 30? Good time to buy in if you have confidence in the company's future.
Other than that? You're not going to beat algos.

I didn't sell my DAL. In fact I bought more. It's like everyone's forgetting this little thing: The worlds opening back the fuck up.. people will be flying in greater numbers. There will be more profits. The stock price will rebound. How else will the mass of people get to Universal and Disney parks this summer? Drive.. Uh yeah I think not.. I doubt many would drive from say Idaho to Florida with a bunch of screaming kiddies along for the ride..

>>19650275
>black
>people
pick one

>>19650290
Based

>>19650290
Unbassed

>>19650288
this was pre china flu lmao
you're fucked

>>19649527
>Beat most mutual fund managers
That's like saying cats are the fastest animals in the world because they can beat turtles in a race when they feel like it. Just like the others, he benefited from the best market conditions in the world and rode the wave with about 5 good investments where he literally FOMO'd and won not by the investment being good, but by exercising ownership rights to take over.

This will surely end well

>>19648792
t. Tankerchad

>>19650330
Holy fuck

>>19650330

>>19650346
just buy puts on june 19th. you'll be fine.

>>19650183
What did you buy

>>19650330
unironically bullish

>>19650330
Why is that necessarily a bad thing when the global economy was paused because of a viral pandemic?? Of course people would jump in and try to make a quick buck [and they still are]

>>19650330
With all these people buying in. Who is selling?

Invest in bug spray

>>19649422
It doesn't really have to do with how much you invest, it has to do with what the total returns are. The reason it's not worth it is because for decades growth stocks (no dividends) have increased in value more than dividend stocks+dividends.

If a growth stock gains 15% per year, and a dividend stock gains 5% per year plus gives you a 5% annual dividend, then your net worth is actually increasing faster with the growth stock, even though you are reinvesting the 5% dividend.

Most people would say the best strategy is to invest in growth stocks to build a capital base, and then transition into dividend stocks towards retirement when you're actually planning to use the dividends as a primary/secondary income source so that you don't have to draw down on your capital by selling stocks.

Basically, unless you are trying to supplement your income with divs, you should be concerned about the effective total return.

>>19650391
Smart money

>>19650408
murder hornets and deathsquitos are priced in. no fear, only greed now.

>>19650365
the data is skewed... in 2010 who had a smart phone? I mean I had a fuckiing PDA thing a flip phone, fucking no good wireless service... you're using archaic data to support your personal bias. The data isn't taking changes in technology to account for more traffic... Go ahead an buy more calls.

it's all so tiresome

>>19650363
AMD, MU, PYPL, SQ, APPL in my stock account, dumb shit in my options account

>>19650248
don't get me excited, it's only down 0.27 that's nuffin.

>>19650417
>smart money sells low and buys high

>>19649541
No one is allowed to drive SSL back over $9 until I get my paycheck, I can't allow this sort of talk.

>>19650447

the memes write themselves

>>19648793
LMT NEE BIPC BAM

s&p futures at -0.60%
tomorrow will be the dump, i feel it

>>19648779
He was just trying to shake you out so his buddies can get in on the fun for cheap

How fucked am I with these? Might just sell tomorrow and cut my losses

>>19650474
every time ive seen one of those dumb little symbols in the past two weeks, its been wrong. we're too volatile lately. the patterns dont work

Oh god
Oh fuck
Oh fuck
Oh god damn it oh fuck shit
I put more money in TNA today... I thought that dump was overdone...
I thought the gex would save me... nothing can save me...

the bulls in the yahoo comment section are my only source of consolation

ONTX CHADS getting big dollar after hours, reverse split cancelled. Can't wait to see what we gap up to tomorrow morning.

I want these numbers to be in reverse to be honest.

>>19650318
Unbased

>>19650512
95.0% would be quite the gain, especially during after hours trading

>>19650487
do you really expect BA and SPY to stay that low for the rest of the year?

Tomorrow everyone thing red day
So I have decided will be green
Lol

>>19650515
unignorant
>>19650512
damn nasdaq will go below 10k, shit's really fucking fueled on hopium.

>>19650487
They're so far out. How can you lose on them? Theta had to be low. Things will go up again

>>19650458
Don't know what you mean, the smart money is selling at these extremely overvalued levels, dumb money is buying

>>19650324
He beat the mutual fund managers in the "doldrums" of the 00s. The hedge funds were in the 10s. He started losing to SP500 BECAUSE of the market conditions not in spite of them.

>>19650526
I just don’t like seeing big losses like that in my portfolio so I just sell at a loss

>>19650512
I'm just going to hold; I sold out of the gambling positions because they're too volatile with no consolation like divs.
If I buy more as it crashes, I'll lower my cost basis and have a decent yield against it.

>>19650512
Include the rest of the US futures. Ass.
Plenty of reason to pay attention to all 4 indices and Vix.

And fuck you you don’t know the hurt of being in the Russell right now fuck.

>>19650502
calm down faggot. i'm in worse shape than you.

>>19650541
Theta isn't the only thing that goes into options pricing. IV has been high and most OTM calls dumped in price today due to IV crush. You should stay away from options, kid.

>>19650522
You cheeky bastard.
>>19650534
>P/E ratios either negative or over nine 9000
I don't know what NASDAQ is fuelled by. Example in pic.

>>19650545
To sell something you need to buy it first. The smartest money is swing trading.

>>19650510
I had that shit for a while. Sucked then. I sold for a loss which I've since made back. The rug pull when it comes will be swift and sudden.

>>19650369
Cuz bears think the engine for the middle class workers should be destroyed.

>>19650531
Green id confirms

gush has gushed out 1500$ off the top of my stack

i dont know what i bought

>>19650502
We all catching falling knives today.

>>19650330
Bullish, I don't care if ends well. More discounts.

>>19648776
As a lesbian i am clearly an expert.
You wait patiently.
After a 3 days..you forget her.

>>19650584
Never buy 2x commodity shit. They all go to zero because commodities are so volatile.

New thread
>>19650603

>>19650603

>>19650603

Really wish I picked up some bonds while they dipped.
If you own bonds press S to spit on me.

>>19650568
yeah man... i'm losing my ass shorting it... well not right now... i've got some green in the past hour, but fundamentals aren't out the window... look around the world. look at the dollar, look at gold, look at bonds. shit is just showing weakness all around... i fucking shorted the safe haven... i fucked up.

>>19648776
don't even worry about it. she might text you back, but don't spend any effort talking to her. move on to someone else.

>>19650568
Nah, you don't know what you're talking about. It's large hedge funds who already have large positions and have for years, and have been trimming into the rally. The outflow reports prove this. Nice try though

>>19650621
I dumped like half my stocks on Monday and locked in profit. I'm not a large hedge fund.

let me know how those led bags are when IVR hits .75$ like Barron claims.

The analysts have a $2 per-share price target for Invesco Mortgage and a 75-cent target for AG Mortgage.

GOOD LUCK FAGGOT

>>19650166
Well being up 30% is a good indicator to not be greedy and sell.

>>19649405
IVR and TWO are p&d's coordinated by wsb. Look at IVR b/c I bet you didnt even look into what the fuck kind of company it is. It's going BK in a few months. sell the bags

>>19650605
S

>>19651441
proofs?

Robinhood users, I have a standard robinhood account and if I were to sell some stock when the stock market opens do I instantly have that buying power after the stock is sold? I think I remember selling some stock and having to wait a few days before it came back into my buying power.

>>19651602
>p&d's coordinated by wsb
you will be holding shit worth 2.00$ in a few months. Maybe in 3 years they will hit 15.00

>>19651942
Oh fuck man. You're really new to this. Do us all a favor and get out b4 you lose money. Trust me speaking from experience

>>19652002
It might be a little late for that, right now I want to sell when markets open and buy in as DAL keeps getting lower and lower.