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19632437 No.19632437 [Reply] [Original]

What should you do if half of the market is fearful, and the other half of the market is greedy??

outdoors edition

>FOMC Countdown:
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Brokers:
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
http://nhentai.net/tag/inflation/

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/
https://www.msn.com/money

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Links for Bulls
>bulls were put out to pasture, no links

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

>>19630993

>> No.19632449
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FIRST FOR GAZPROM

>> No.19632452
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ruined

>> No.19632453

inb4 retard with spy puts tries to convince everybody memeflu is coming to kill us

>> No.19632462

Are my leaf/TSX bros around yet?

Coffee #1 current status = sipped

>> No.19632463
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>IVR

>> No.19632465

>>19632453
Hopefully he'll die from it in a futile attempt to prove himself not an idiot before he makes it i to this thread

>> No.19632468

>>19632437
Since the wuflu was only a meme, how far past the previous ATH will Dow blow given new liquidity/inflation?

>> No.19632480

>>19632463
I know. Why did I buy in AFTER the hype like a faggot

>> No.19632488

Are the riots instigated to ensure that COVID will kill loads of people? then again, it'll most likely be niggers. So, I think that's a bit bullish desu.

>> No.19632490
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visual representation of the current market

bulls on the left
J-Pow on the right
bears in the center

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19632495

Bet on beef

>> No.19632496

>>19632463
When did you buy? If under 5 bucks you're fine.

>> No.19632501

can someone tell me what is the best sector to look into if jpow's meeting is bullish?

>> No.19632503

>>19632488
memeflu isn't capable of killing loads of anybody but the nearly dead
it's basically a pack of wolves hunting diseased caribou

>> No.19632506

How do you think the upcoming announcement will affect the market?

>> No.19632510

>down almost 20% on SSL and IVR

valuable lesson learned

>> No.19632518

>>19632501
REITs would probably be good
MFA is still down quite a bit

>> No.19632520

>>19632503
Yes, but it's apparently more potent to black people.

>> No.19632529

>>19632495
What’s wrong with the cowgirl

>> No.19632530

>>19632520
that's cause it's raciss

>> No.19632531

>>19632510
ya dont bet on shilled penny stocks. theyre already past their peak

>> No.19632532

>>19632520
not really

black people didn't change their personal habits at all while whites and asians did.

Some video of a guy driving through the ghetto showed them still partying and playing basketball like normal

>> No.19632535

>>19632510
I think my stop loss is 8.60. I should have sold yesterday.

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>>19632462
We're going to make it brother.

>> No.19632544

I fucking told you all not to buy IVR or SSL. You didn't listen.

>> No.19632545

>>19632490
Look bulls are finally winning

>> No.19632548

WHY THE FUCK OIL DROPS

HOLD ME SSL BROS SO I COULD HOLD SSL

FEAR MONGERRING RETARDS

>> No.19632549

>>19632465
No no I’m here. Just working on another infinitely long rant, be patient.

>> No.19632561

>>19632532
Then I guess, there are more unhealthy black people hence the statistics. Eitherway, fuck niggers.

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Any BAC bros here?

we are gonna make it......right?

>> No.19632578

>>19632549
Save yourself the trouble. Even if your maths are right, the number are not. The models are based on the numbers, so they are also not right. All anyone has is observations. Maybe the observations are different in different places, but from where I am, nothing is happening.

>> No.19632580

>>19632544
I'm still not listening and I'm still going to buy more SSL. I stayed away from IVR though because its chart looked "bad" to me. Screencap this post so you can laugh at me when SSL falls to 0.00000000001 after all the institutions realize oil has now been replaced with nuclear overnight, or something

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>>19632529
She bought IVR Monday, tankers, and sold RTX months ago.

>> No.19632585

>>19632548
Just sell out and buy back in later.
I hope you bought in earlier than I did.

>> No.19632587

>>19632549
>infinitely long rant
You mean infinitely long cope. How did you fail to make money in this market? And then you followed it up doubling down on your thesis. Tragic.

>> No.19632591

>>19632437
>http://nhentai.net/tag/inflation/
You fool, by taking tomboy out of the pasta, you've doomed us to another red day

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>>19632569
I dumped and doubled down on Canadian banks at the same time. Still managed to be in the green, luckily buying daily bottoms. Lots of cash just in case. Good luck this week with financials.

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>don't go from 100% cash to all in on one day
>don't capitulate after a 40% bull run of 2 months because
>never ever buy meme stocks that are being shilled after they already mooned
>wait until end of day to buy or you get cucked
>set stop losses

>> No.19632598

so what can we expect from the fed?

>> No.19632602

>>19632488
No, just another distractions or way for them to implement tracing and AI bullshit since we are losing to chinks and they want to create social credit system. Apple already tells you about those bear you who have had it, just like chinks have their debtor notifications.

>> No.19632603

Just set a 2k transfer to WS. Hope it goes through and settles by friday for big plays into the weekend.

>>19632538
Together we rise.

>> No.19632604

i tried to tell you guys about GNUS
you wouldn't listen
this shit is real

>> No.19632608

>>19632501

How could the meeting possibly be bullish? They essentially have to the keep the "unlimited QE" "stop at nothing" narrative to maintain the status quo. They already said no interest rates change. The ONLY reason to buy stocks right now is because brrrrrr" So if the fed hints about the economy recovering better than expected or something, that would be bearish.

We've reached a point where stocks are so far detached from their fundamentals, the vast majority of their price is dictated by money flow and not intrinsic value. So we get this negative correlation between stocks and the economy / fundamentals of the companies. Where bad news about the economy will lead to stocks going up due to anticipated fed action, and good news will lead to stocks going down out of fear the fed will turn the money printing down.

Any thing about the fed not trying to cap yields will also be bearish, raising yields both devalues stocks and shows that the fed is loosing control right now.

>> No.19632609

>>19632449

fuck off, Ivan

>> No.19632617

>>19632598
I expect either maintain or raise a few basis points. Either way it won't be a major hike, which is the only thing that could stop this bull market right now.

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>>19632463
>Post divvies on Sunday
>Someone calls me a faggot for not going all in on IVR

>> No.19632621

>>19632437
Anyone else long on PLAY (Dave and Busters) ?

>> No.19632644

>>19632608
Thanks for the update Mike Maloney.

>> No.19632649

>>19632621
still time to get in on GNUS
check it before you mock

>> No.19632652

>overpopulation fucking us over in more ways than one
>convenient virus that kills the undesirables and potentially decreasing a substantial amount of people
How is this not a win for the economy? I guess it sucks if you're vulnerable but why fucking stop it let nature have it's way so we can progress.

>> No.19632661

put my stop loses, I am shorting this shit to the ground.

>> No.19632666

Inuvo is the play fellas

>> No.19632668

>>19632652
>overpopulation
fucking meme
you could fit everyone on the entire planet into texas

>> No.19632682

>>19632666
.17 to .70 in two months

>> No.19632683

>>19632668
Overpopulation is not just about have an area that's larger than the area of the population.

>> No.19632684

CNBC:
Mortgage demand from homebuyers amazes again, now up 13% annually despite rising rates

IVR BULLISH
LAST CHANCE TO GET IN UNDER 6 DOLLARS

>> No.19632688

>>19632617

Lmao, any rate hike would drill stocks to the core. The entire rally is based on the idea fed is printing never ending money.

>> No.19632689

>>19632683
name your "issue"
they're all memes

>> No.19632699

>>19632668
But can you feed the entire planet with the resources in Texas?
There's no point in trying to explain this shit to someone who dismisses everything as a meme though.

>> No.19632704

what's the most badass gun and bullet combination i can buy for the $3,350.05 GNUS has made me so far this morning?

that one anon told me to kill myself

>> No.19632708

Canada has too many REITs! I can't do my DD in one day. I wasted yesturday looking into travel and airlines.

Leaf lads REITs meeting resheduled for Monday, pre-discussion over the weekend.

>> No.19632710

>>19632666
Looks like another pump job. Why does /biz/ always fall for this shit lmao

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so basically how does pre market buying even work? like how can you get shit if the market aint open?

>> No.19632718

>>19632684
Don't do this, don't give me hope.

>> No.19632719

>>19632699
you wouldn't need to
you could literally farm the rest of north america and feed everyone, if everyone were in texas
you have bought into the most simple minded bullshit...

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>>SSL

*breathes in*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.19632726

>>19632688
A small hike would be fine. Anything more than 50 basis points would be a problem though at this point.

>> No.19632728

>>19632668
You have to be quite stupid if you think texas can feed 8 gorillion people.

>> No.19632729

>>19632710
Trips never fails my man, go duck yourself

>> No.19632731

what is the biggest gun and bullet i can get for the $3,606.50 GNUS has made me so far this morning?

>> No.19632733
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> big nose trading hours

Thanks for killing 25% of my gains three hours before I have a chance to respond. Fucking faggots.

>> No.19632734

could someone post a cute anime girl while recommending IVR so i can get courage to come in?

>> No.19632735

>>19632719
Someone who thinks that "overpopulation is a meme because you can fit the entire population into an arbitrary area" shouldn't really be talking about simple mindedness. Then again, you're too simple minded to realize that.

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>>19632723

>> No.19632737

>>19632652
>guys should we try and terraform ma-
>haha no way fag just like let the weak die and stop taking up space animals want to use and respect the nature by dying for it but also eat the rich and go back to pre-industrial dying from every plague en masse
Tired of liberal disregard for human life

>> No.19632739

>>19632729
>Satan trips
Try again scammer

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>>19632733
SSL has gone so low that I killed my stop loss and I'm now bag holding. I'd simply realize too much of a loss.

>> No.19632745

I just realized 4chan passes actually exist
>I've been here for 12 years

>>19632449
ugly bitch

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>>19632734
Buy IVR, ganbare!

>> No.19632752

SOUTH

FUCKING

AFRICA

YOU DESERVE THIS

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19632753

>NKLA - Let me be blunt about this. They have an idea, a theory nothing more at this point. They have no trucks. They have no means of building said trucks. They have no means of fueling said trucks (no service stations). They do have orders though but till something rolls out of a plant somewhere I'm on the fence about them. A lot of things could go wrong. Anyone of which could cost you.

>> No.19632756

>>19632731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_gun

>> No.19632760

>>19632596
good post

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>>19632739
Satan could never overpower the almighty ken you spineless bastard. Never forget 2016

>> No.19632763

>>19632439
>This is a naive, oversimplified model.
>It does not account for even a very simple pattern that once the concentration of infected per square meter (like in some elderly home or an airport) will get higher the severity of cases and mortality rates will go up.
Do you have any evidence IFR is higher in airports? The IFR is based on large samples, such variations should have washed out (so if you are right, IFR would be higher than 1.2% in airports)

>>19632459
>It seems like you think 1.2% death is a constant and the rest of the equation needs to be balanced around that. Which is obviously the wrong approach desu
Of course, it’s just an easy way to count. 1.2% of infected will die, but then the question is how many will be infected. With a pristine population experts do assume it will infect pretty much everyone and the big question is just how quickly (in 1-2 years is likely with this R0), so I work backwards from that, but obviously things like new lockdowns, a vaccine or some cure could change things drastically.

>>19632441
> you claim 3% of Sweden is dead
I don’t get what you mean. I would never claim more than 1.2% of Sweden or any country will die from covid, and that’s only if 100% of the population gets infected. Sweden has 4.7k dead, so only a small part of the population have had it so far, consistent with an R0 around 1 (until a week ago) achieved by social distancing and low pop density.

> spy puts!
No puts. I have sold all my stock, a few $100k and will be cashgang until I see how the market reacts to covid when it takes off for real, but thats peanuts compared to my inheritance that all sits in the stock market. You have no idea how much I hope I am wrong.

> retarded then!
Yes, unless you fail to show where I’m wrong because then it’s you who are retarded.

>> No.19632764

>>19632591
not sorry

>>19632668
that sounds terrible though, no one wants that

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>>19632734
Its pre-market price is positive while most others are negative

>> No.19632769
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Many thanks to the anon that encouraged me to buy Sony yesterday.

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>I see how the market reacts to covid when it takes off for real
There still exist people like this. I wonder if he's 80 years old and this is a real issue for him.

>> No.19632776

>>19632762
Kek* forgive me blessed lord and savior Pepe

>> No.19632781

>>19632510
>Up 227% on SSL
Just wait for the gains to come

>> No.19632784

>SSL Average cost
>$8.60
>SSL Current price
>$8.61
Do I just get out while I still have a very marginal gain?

>> No.19632785

>>19632764
would be kinda cool ngl tho

>> No.19632790

>>19632764
my point isn't that you SHOULD put everyone into texas
my point is that you COULD
overpopulation is a fucking meme
humans are outweighed by ANTS on this planet

note. i didn't say outnumbered, although we are, we are outWEIGHED by ants

>> No.19632791

>>19632608
This explains clown market so well, it must be exactly what’s happening.

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>>19632763

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>>19632753
Ok boomer.
Itt we think companies need to make a product or a profit or do anything

>> No.19632803

>>19632544
Still in green for both.
Stay mad faggot.
Dividends here I come.

>> No.19632805

>>19632756
is that the most expensive as well?
because now i need to spend all of the $4,304.94 GNUS has made me so far this morning

>> No.19632808
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>>19632428
>it has just turned into a meme among the ADHD kids on /biz/ that covid is over, you have absolutely nothing to back you up
Are you literally retarded?

>> No.19632810

>>19632737
>depopulation hinders space progress
Don't put words nor politics into my mouth.

>> No.19632813

>>19632488
Does NIO look good?

>> No.19632814

>>19632769
I did the same, are you holding to the conference or after?

>> No.19632821

>>19632784
I doubt you'll be able to meet the morning selloff.

>> No.19632824

>>19632784
no you should let south african thieves take their sweet time

gtfo

>> No.19632825

does IVR have a future as a business?

>> No.19632827

>>19632790
Maybe an analogy will help you. I can wear a size small shirt; it will physically envelop my torso. That doesn't mean a size small shirt wouldn't be too small for me.

>> No.19632828
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>>19632608
>The ONLY reason to buy stocks right now is because brrrrrr"
Economies are reopening and the cold hysteria is over, unless you're talking about e-commerce and tech stocks. Then yes the latter are tulip bulbs.

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>SSL
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaASAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaASAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.19632834

>>19632784
Sounds like a panic sell. Take a breath first.

>> No.19632838
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Not even a fucking week after a spike on friday and people bitching about holding meme stocks taking a dip. if this applies to you then you're a SHEEP that gobbles up any recommendations thrown at you.

Here is one. Do us a favor and KYS.

>> No.19632840

is ZM halted or something?
this shit hasn't moved in like an hour

>> No.19632843

>>19632608
>The ONLY reason to buy stocks right now is because brrrrrr"
No.
Record numbers of retail investors bought the March crash.

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STOP BUYING STOCKS MILLIONS WILL DIE FROM CORONA!!!

>> No.19632850

My avg IVR cost is 5.31. Should I just gtfo out at open since I missed the pump and dump?

>> No.19632851

>>19632790
Please visit Bangladesh if you think placing +100 million in a small area is not a problem.

>> No.19632858

>>19632838
Why are you even here?

>> No.19632868

Ready to all in on GNUS today. Will pre plan a funeral for my money.

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>SSL

I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED

>> No.19632878

alright. so who knows the coolest looking gun and bullet combo i can buy for the $4,258.36 GNUS has made me so far this morning?

should i stop listing the pennies? it feels funny to list the pennies at this point

BUY GNUS AT OPEN THIS SHIT IS GOING TO FLY
LAST CHANCE BEFORE NETWORK LAUNCHES

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>>19632838
Its crazy people won't even hold for a couple of weeks and it will be all green again.

>> No.19632883

>>19632844
based and bullish-pilled

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>IVR and CORR getting dabbed on
>MITT chads steady cruisin

>> No.19632888

>>19632840
They are sending their user data to Beijing u gotta wait senpai

>> No.19632891

>>19632828
This anon gets it

>> No.19632894

Shill me a memestock that have a >1% chance to moon.

>> No.19632895

>>19632885
I'm market selling today at a 2% loss, no big deal.

>> No.19632896

>>19632774
No in my 40s and with a job in a real company making real money.
Did you know that real companies do real forecasting of covid. They don’t expect anyone to go back to the office until fall, some not until next year. We also get regular reports on the real R0 numbers. See if you have some friend who works for a tech company with more than 30k employees, they’ll know what I mean.

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>>19632883
think of the MILLIONS that will die!!

it’s simple math!!!

>> No.19632902

>>19632608
>price is dictated by money flow
Call me retarded but isn't this how it has always been?

>> No.19632904

>>19632868
CEO has already built and sold one network to Disney for $5.5B
Executive team has further high-level ties to Disney
GNUS has the only remaining Stan Lee property Disney has not yet acquired
Toy line coming out
Nickelodeon just 24X'd their showings due to popularity
Will release a fucking netflix for kids across all digital channels ON MONDAY

the only reason you'll need a funeral for your money is because it'll die from neglect because you are never going to want to take it back out

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>>19632895
please do

>> No.19632914

>>19632894
TSE:WELL

This is the last tip I give /biz before the weekend

>> No.19632921

>>19632828
All tech stocks or some? Bought a lot of AMD at 51 usd and wondering if I should hold long-term or just dump it around 65 usd.

>> No.19632922

>>19632827
post pics and let /smg/ be the judge

>> No.19632930

>>19632901
that makes me hard to be honest

>> No.19632931

>>19632894
FMCI

>> No.19632935

/smg/ needs to be segregated into meme stocks trend chasers and 25k+ portfolio chads

>> No.19632937

>>19632896
I work in IT and the company is run by hysterical boomers as well. This doesn't mean we should price stocks based on boomer hysteria.

>> No.19632942

How long did it take you to realize that buying puts or calls is always superior to bagholding the actual underlying stock?

>> No.19632944

>>19632935
>implying I dont fit into all 3 categories

>> No.19632946

>>19632935
>25k
>chad
setting the bar a bit low aren’t you?

>> No.19632949

>>19632935
Well everyone can just pretend to be a millionaire in here so.. no point

>> No.19632948

>>19632921
Some. CSCO has a good P/E for example.

>> No.19632956
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19632956

i used to be a 25k chad

>> No.19632960

>>19632946
low yet it disqualifies about 90% of this thread

>> No.19632962

>>19632922
I'll pass on that front, but I suppose I can give you my height and weight if you so desire. You'll probably get a good laugh and boost of self-confidence because I'm fat and very short.

>> No.19632965

>>19632942
not as fast as i learned that selling options is superior to both

>> No.19632966

> 100 shares IVR
> 80 shares FMCI
> 6 $50 NKLA puts I got at the bell after pulling 4500 in profit
NKLA needs to fall faster, other than that comfy day ahead

>> No.19632971

>>19632902
Price isn't dictated by money flow.
Price is dictated by however much people are willing to pay.

>20 people pay 100 USD for a share
>money flow = 2,000 USD
>share price = 100 USD

>20,000 people pay 100 USD for a share
>money flow = 2,000,000 USD
>share price = 100 USD

>> No.19632974

>>19632561
The biggest issue was transmission as other anon said, they basically didn't change habits at all so a larger portion of minority communities (blacks mostly) got rona'd. That being said though, yeah preexisting conditions are largely responsible for the actual death count and the largest killer of black people in the US (by a massive margin) is heart disease.

>> No.19632980

>>19632962
your analogy is bullshit because everybody could fit comfortably into texas

again. i am not saying it SHOULD happen. i am saying it COULD happen.

overpopulation is a meme

>> No.19632981

>>19632942
I'm not a burger, I'd do options if I can.

>> No.19632982

>>19632937
Lol ALL if the HR and management boomers at my company were shitting bricks and sobbing because of this coronavirus for weeks. Not early on when it was spreading, of course, only when the lockdowns started and experts told them to panic. Haven't heard anything new from them in a few minutes, I guess the experts told them to panic about something else now? Or maybe they just forgot.

>> No.19632985

>>19632797
95% of my future wealth rises with the stock market. I’m young and healthy and not worried about catching covid. You guys seriously don’t understand that doing the math is prudent. The only conclusion is that you’re playing with crumbs that your only shot at real money is for them to moon unrealistically, which is why you hate any dispassionate analysis of the risk that the market might crash. If you had real money you’d care about risk assessment. Of course you don’t care if the market crashes, you’ll try again next week with a fresh new $100 bill from your next salary.

>> No.19632987
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19632987

Still holding

>> No.19632991

>>19632966
Is it too late to buy FMCI?

>> No.19632993

>>19632935
I don't fit in either of those. Just a poor leaf building a boomer portfolio with spare change...

>>19632944
3?

>> No.19632998

>>19632962
You sound cute
Don't be so hard on yourself baby

>> No.19633001

>>19632904
Any time you see a bullet list like this extolling some meme stock that you've never heard of, be very leery.

>> No.19633006

>>19632980
8 billion don't fit comfortably even across the entire world.

>> No.19633008

>>19632987
Same. Bunch of panic sellers

>> No.19633015
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>>19632974
FUCK OFF ITS GOING TO KILL MILLIONS YOU RETARDED BRAINLET

YOU GUYS SHOULD BE PANIC SELLING

2ND WAVE SOON

>> No.19633019

>>19632980
overpopulation isn't about the number of square metres per person you fucking mongol, it's about resources, kys

>> No.19633021

>>19632937
Certainly, and currently they are more into virtue signalling blm, but that doesn’t mean the statistics their scientists produce and buy isn’t accurate.

>> No.19633026

>>19633001
look it up for yourself
check out the video content
look at the website and consider the fact that they haven't even yet addressed the minecraft character you see pop up on there

this shit is going to be huge

>> No.19633032

>>19632437
what does robinhood do when you add funds to your account and they give it to you but your bank rejects their withdrawl because you had negative balance?

normally they take like 3 or 4 days so i thought i had time but for some fucking reason their shit was trying to withdraw from my bank the next day before i could deposit my money. funds were negative because some unrelated bullshit with a check

>> No.19633034
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19633034

In this moment I am euphoric

>> No.19633037

>>19633006
more retarded bullshit
there is more empty space than we know what to do with
retards pile themselves up into cities and then claim the entire planet is overpopulated

>> No.19633047

>>19632745
It's a man.

>> No.19633050

>>19632987
hoping the panic spreads so i can enter at 7.5

>> No.19633052

>>19632991
No, if it's Impossible, or the egg one it's going to be big. If it's not, well then I'm fucked with ya.

>> No.19633055

>>19633032
>>19633032
my bank gave a "NSF" no sufficient funds and rejected the robinhood withdrawal. will RH ban me now? i was a bad goy what will they do to me do they try to withdraw a second time or do i have to explain myself to their customer service tomorrow before they try liquidating my holdings to pay for my sins

>> No.19633061

>>19632704
Other anon was right. Who the fuck talks like this, are you europoor or something? Why even ask about guns if so?

>> No.19633067

>>19633037
The space we use is more than the space of Texas. The space we use is not enough to comfortably fit everyone. Therefore, Texas would not be enough space to comfortably fit everyone.

>> No.19633073

>>19632753
>>19632800
Prove to me they aren't a boomer meme for being 'the next Tesla" despite being a completely different business model from Tesla

>>19632825
They sold a ton of assets of in April and no one ever mentions this. They just say "Oh it was $14/share before so it will be $14/share again". Despite having less ability to generate the income needed for that. Also, interest rates are really, really, low. How much money can a mortgage lender make off of low interest loans? Answer: not a lot.

>>19632828
>all tech stocks are tulip bulbs
ok

>> No.19633074

>>19632942
4D gambling

>> No.19633079

You guys think airlines will continue to fall or would today be a good time to get in before they start rising again?

>> No.19633082
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The markets down today, i guess ill buy some. Dont be scared today. Hold your bags, lads. If every day was a good day then we would all have yachts now.

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19633091

Why do they always have some bullshit bearish outlook?

>> No.19633094

>>19632808
Your graphs clearly show that the better the lockdowns, the more covid declined, and that in the US we have done a bad job so far and are about to do it worse.
If you think your graphs indicate that covid is over you are truly retarded, what you see in the US graph is that with all the lockdowns we had, we only managed to slow down the virus a little bit, so get ready for the real ride.

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19633096

>>19632609
Suck it chang

>>19633047
no trannies in the military stfu

>> No.19633105

>>19633067
ok dude
start building an underwater dome or something i guess
we're going to run out of space on land
fuck city dwellers are so stupid... drive 20 miles in ANY DIRECTION if you need some space

>> No.19633110

>>19632935
Put a zero on that friendo

>>19632960
yikes

>> No.19633111
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19633111

USD falling against GBP is just adding to the misery for me as my stocks are falling further if I sell

>> No.19633115

JBLU about to nosedive again

>> No.19633116

>>19632828
Tech is literally one of the few sectors that has been growing for a decade. There is some meme garbage in there like TSLA, Zoom, and UBER but overall the growth in other sectors if they are growing is from tech. Like online payment services for the financial sector, or shifting online like retail.

>> No.19633119

>>19633091
Trying to FUD POTUS obviously

>> No.19633122
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19633122

Where's my /HOLD/ brothers at?
For me IVR and SSL still green.
Let them, panic boys.

>> No.19633123

>>19633073
>boomer meme for the next tesla
C O P E

>> No.19633124

>>19633061
i'm just fucking with the dude who told me to kms for holding GNUS

>> No.19633138

>>19632935
But there already is a penny stock general.

>> No.19633139

>>19633122
MITT is going absolutely sicko mode in premarket right now.

>> No.19633145

>>19633115
13.25 opening maybe I can buy in this week

>> No.19633151

>>19633094
Corona is receding even in areas with shit lockdown.
Cope.

>> No.19633161

>>19633122
still holding SSL. Will not be shaken out. Happened to be with MRO and missed the next leg up when that happened. Hold for oil and energy

>> No.19633164

>>19632814
I think after, it’s Wednesday and the thingy is tomorrow. Plus I still believe that the XBOX sucks dick and that after the presentations it’s gonna rocket even more. What do you think?

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19633166

Going in on DFEN. Dumb or naw?

>> No.19633170

I have a bad feeling about today

>> No.19633174

>>19633015
wut are you sperging out about retard

>> No.19633175

>>19633094
Georgia has been out of lock down since April 22nd and it's cases have been flat or declining.

And you contradict yourself. If the US did a shitty job with lock down, that just means that no lock down won't see a big increase in numbers, you know, because the lock down was shit as you say.

>> No.19633176

>>19633094
You are retarded.

>> No.19633179

>>19632617
What world are you living in that you think anything besides a cut won't bring down the whole market?

>> No.19633186
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19633186

>MITT up almost 50% from close
club on

>> No.19633187

TSLA 1000 BUCKAROONIES

>> No.19633189

the positive is i'm down so much i don't even have think about realizing my losses they're too far down and i'll just have to wait a while

>> No.19633190

how do i invest in creampieing anime girls? All this talk about fingering and cunnilingus has made me realize that the ultimate investment is creampies

>> No.19633193

>>19633105
>city dwellers
>own cars
Haha, nice meme

>> No.19633199

NKLA is worth over 30 billion dollars now.

How do I join into this clown world economy? I want to start a company that makes nothing and raise billions in capital.

>> No.19633200

>>19633015
2nd wave will just be another good buying period

>> No.19633203

>>19633170
VIX is red, it'll crab up, very slowly.

>> No.19633210

>>19633199
Make a cool drawing and hire a good hype man

>> No.19633211
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19633211

>tfw no tea stocks
It shows that coffee is more powerful than tea. Therefore, coffee >>>>> cunny sweat > tea

>> No.19633214

>>19633193
they could bike it, i guess

>> No.19633218

>>19633123
Give me one reason it isn't

>> No.19633219

fuck this retarded crabbing

>> No.19633227
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19633227

>>19632510
>down 40% on GNUS
Lol I'm retarded

>> No.19633233

>>19633164
Yeah I tend to agree with you, I expect a lot of FOMO if the thingy goes well for the PS5 on thursday.

>> No.19633234

>>19633199
You need a good social media front man con artist that zoomers can channel their zoomer zeitgeist through

>> No.19633236

>>19633175
>In Texas, North and South Carolina, California, Oregon, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah and Arizona, there are an increasing number of patients under supervised care since the holiday weekend because of coronavirus infections. The spikes generally began in the past couple weeks and in most states are trending higher.
>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/more-one-fifth-us-sees-covid-19-hospitalizations-hit-new-record-highs-live-updates

>> No.19633237

>>19632828
Priced in weeks ago, unironically

>> No.19633239

>NKLA is already in the top 100 most popular on RH

So many people are going to get raped so hard.

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>>19633199
Start a blank check company and do an IPO, it's that simple.

>> No.19633244

>>19633139
I don't get it, why is that mooning more than Ivr? Mitt value is priced at nearly 3x less than Ivr

>> No.19633245

>>19633239
Let it burn, same story with BTC and they're still falling for it.

>> No.19633247

>>19633199
Start an app or a meme coin

>> No.19633254

>>19633211
>Cunny sweat not cunny juices
never going to make it

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19633255

>>19632595
I will average down if it bottoms down today, or maybe buy C.
Also interesting ETF you got in there, I might look into it, However leveraged ETFs are new to me.
Good luck on your trade anon.

>> No.19633256

>>19633234
You don't need a funny con man you just need to name your company after the same funny balkan science man as that one really popular con artist

Did Tesla have a middle name?

>> No.19633258

>>19633227
You bought the spike and then DIDN'T average down?
fuck, dude...

>> No.19633259

>>19633179
A 0.25 point hike wouldn't be loved by the market, but it wouldn't be apocalyptic. If we hike by 0.25 on encouraging data and gentle words from Jerome, and the market tantrums down to 305 or 300, every one will look around and realize that the sky isn't falling.

More likely is that the fed will maintain rates, while at the same time projecting that there is a strong chance that they will hike rates in one of the next two meetings if economic data doesn't deteriorate .
Long term they will be very slow and steady, I think they will signal to the markets that they aren't in any rush to get back to 1.5 or above any time soon. But being back at 0.5 sometime in the next few months and at 0.75 sometime in the next year is very very possible

>> No.19633260

>>19632745
Dude I've been on 4changz since 2005 and I don't know half the shit that is going on anymore.

>> No.19633263

>>19633199
Just be an autistic CEO of some zoomer-pandering company.

>> No.19633274

>>19633263
>>19633247
>>19633241
>>19633234
What about this: social network for people who are dying

>> No.19633276

Why is NIO always flying?

>> No.19633279

>>19633239
Literally and unironically what has been said about TSLA for years.
These companies are IMPERVIOUS to FA or TA. As long as there is a sufficient cult that never sells shorts will keep pumping the price up.

>> No.19633291

>>19633274
doesnt FB already exist?

>> No.19633292
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19633292

> Not making 6 figure returns off 4 figures initial
NGMI

>> No.19633298

>>19633259
Basically this, although I tend to think the market could weather 50 basis points albeit with some difficulty. Anything above that would be too much.

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19633301

>>19633124
FYI, the cheapest big boy gun you can get is probably the barret m82. Starts at about $8k, and .50 bmg cartridges run around $4 each for cheap shit.

>> No.19633306

>>19633236
Texas and California haven't stopped their slight upwards trend yet, and their corona death figures are next to nothing.
Your article is sensationalist bs.

>> No.19633309

>>19632896
Eh buddy, I don't think you're reading this right.

I also work for a real company making real money and guess what:

No one gives a fuck. Some of my mates already got companies on 50% people in office rotating.

literally no one gives a fuck, management just does shit for appearances right now, by will of the people we'd all be back to full force.

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19633310

why did futures spike green bros?

fucking kikes playing in their pre market playpen again

>> No.19633313

>>19633122
$PLAY and $RDS.B here, my hands are iron

>> No.19633316

>>19633301
that is badass
i'll have to pick one up this afternoon once GNUS shorts start covering and FOMO kicks in

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19633323

How do I get over the feeling of FOMO? It's causing extreme anger and jealousy. This week minted MULTI-MILLIONAIRES.
I'm thinking of getting into zen meditation.

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19633326

NASDAQ ON 10,000
NASDAQ ON 10,000
NASDAQ ON 10,000

>> No.19633328

>>19633276
I have no idea.

>> No.19633332

>>19632733
After all those years I still don't get this image. What exactly is he shoving in his ass there?

>> No.19633333

>>19632437
Literally was thinking of putting 35k on Nikola on open, didn't, and saw it up 100%. Yesterday, was reading about Vrooms fucking IPO on the shitter, was about to put 35k on it, didn't have the balls, and watched it double. What the fuck. Next time I'm not making the same mistake.

>> No.19633336

I'm too stupid/lazy for individual stocks. My new strategy is just to buy TQQQ calls ~1 month out, sell it a couple days later, and repeat. Making sure to pocket the profits each time.

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>>19633313
RDSB too (London) that cunt has punished me so much i won't be shaken out

fucking clog wearers

>> No.19633344

>>19632985
Yeah so you just proved it doesn't matter.

>> No.19633350

The pre market kikes pulled the rug on Red Robin

>> No.19633352

>>19633336
Absolutely gigabased

>> No.19633354

>>19633333
Is NIO the next NKLA?

>> No.19633355

Done, everything on Market Sell, waiting till 9:30. Let it all go down to hell. Fucking RH kids inflating the market with their pocket change. See ya at the second dip in a month. Economy will collapse and they're buying Nikola for almost a 100 bucks. Retards.

>> No.19633353

>>19633336
>>19633336
>>19633336
what time of day do you time your buys and sells?

>> No.19633360

>>19633332
It's a shitcoin thing.

>> No.19633361

>>19633323
>stop comparing your gains with others'
>not having a plan for each play
>not sticking to the plan at all

>> No.19633363

>>19633333

Those quads say you should

>> No.19633367

>>19632684
Today we come back IVR Bros.

>> No.19633368

>>19633339
>>19633313
What's your average RDSB for? I sold today and might back in EOD.

>> No.19633371

>>19633355

If you actually think that’s what’s going on never get back in because you’re a complete idiot.

>> No.19633373

>>19633355
>RH controls the market
i’m sorry bobo but you’re wrong

>> No.19633374

>>19633350
Also my stop loss order never went through so I guess stop loss orders must not be carried out in pre market?

>> No.19633376

>>19633353
It's usually sell in the morning and buy back in the afternoon, I'm not married to that though.

>> No.19633375

>>19633332
It's a TV remote. Meme rage video from about 10 years ago.

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19633381

>>19633323
zazen is fundamental

>> No.19633382

We dipped alot yesterday. We going green again soon?

>> No.19633385

They call me bubble boy

officially took a bearish position this morning, I can't take this irrational exuberance any more... so prepare yourselves new highs incoming

who else is a pussy with lots of cash and gold just now?

>> No.19633390

>>19633354
>he didn't buy when it was shilled hard here for $2-3

>> No.19633394

>>19633256
Riccola

>> No.19633396

>>19633309
Yes of course. Nobody takes it seriously because the chances to survive are 98.8%, better if you are young. Individually, the risk of dying from covid is low. But that is not incompatible with the fact that 1.2% death rate means millions of dead Americans given an R0 that is starting to climb again, and my point was that the statistics produced by the big companies indicates that it is starting to climb again, and it might pay to be informed of this fact since it seems a majority of /smg/ isn’t.

>> No.19633398

>>19633382
Say it with me

STOCKS ONLY GO UP

>> No.19633404

>>19633368
1365p so up 0.89%

was greener but the last few days have taken this way down

bought a while back before a dip, and crabbed back up over weeks to a profit - it's been a chore but this one *should* come good eventually

>> No.19633408

>>19633390
Is it too late? :( I never saw the shilling I only saw people saying it’s sketchy and not to trust China and that they pump and dump it..

>> No.19633410

>>19633385
I mean, I am holding a lot of cash, but it is because I am hoping for a real estate market crash, not because I think the market might crash.

>> No.19633411

>>19633396
Or biomeme corps are trying to make it a thing again so they do PnD runs like they used to a month ago.

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19633414

>tesla premarket

>> No.19633419

>>19632896
I work in a fucking hospital and weve had 2 covid patients. Everyone makes jokes about it because its a fucking hoax. Stupid shit for brains redditard

>> No.19633420

>>19632896
>my REAL company has REAL reports from REAL analysts with REAL numbers that make REAL predictions that are NEVER wrong

ok boomer

>> No.19633425

>>19633239
>>19633245
>TSLA ATH and bitcoin still above $8k
I don't see a problem here, what are you talking about?

>> No.19633426

>>19632437
ETF or index? Which do I start with? I have 100 smackers and I wanna be a millionaire at least. kthxbai.

>> No.19633430

>>19633410
same, although i literally have no idea what the market will do in coming months, its so expensive I don't think the chances of a decent return are very high (long term)

>> No.19633431

>>19633404
I sold for 1366 I think my average was like 1355. I wanted it for the divvies but then got harpooned with that fucking announcement.

>> No.19633436

>>19633333
Next time will probably be the time it backfires, usually how it works. Though pretty much any IPO that has a recognizable name or good PR has been basically a guaranteed 20% return. WMG surprisingly hasn't taken off yet, volume is still low as everyone was scooping up the remaining cheapies in other sectors.

>> No.19633442
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19633442

There's going to be a lot of pink wojaks in here for falling for the REIT maymay

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19633447

>>19633414
this is peak clown world

>> No.19633449

>>19633368
36.57 AVG open. Haven't bothered looking at premarket because im holding like fuck either way.

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19633453

>IVR 5.94 pre-market

>> No.19633454

>>19633419
I work for a college/hospital that spent $10M on a tent hospital to cope with the massive overload of patients and no one stepped foot in it.

Now they're furloughing and terminating people to 'save money' in the 'downturn' rofl

>> No.19633456

>>19633426
TQQQ, you'll never lose but you won't earn as much doing risky shit.

>> No.19633462
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19633462

Futures supa green
Coronavirus irrelevant
African tantrums unheard
Jerome approaching to tell us how great things are and loan us free money
Rocket ships taking Americans into space

What a pleasant summertime feel
All of /smg/ can enjoy this moment together

>> No.19633463

>>19633396
Half the deaths are literally from people in retirement homes, who live on an average for three years. Another large amount is blacks. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but the ones dying, aren't the ones that the economy relies on.

>> No.19633467

>>19633363
Thinking of Royalty Pharma, their IPO is expected next Tuesday. 1 billion revenue, might try to ride the hype for the first 1-3 days, then exit.

>> No.19633471

>>19633355
Done, everything on Market Sell, waiting till 9:30. Let it all go down to hell. Fucking GS jews inflating the market with their trillions. See ya at the second dip in 2029. Economy will be fine because nothing happened and they're buying zoom at over 200 bucks. Retards.

>> No.19633472

>>19633116
>TSLA is meme garbage

only when you think of them as a car company rather than an AI company that extracts it's machine learning data from drivers. Their AI is ahead of everyone and I do agree Uber is a meme which is why TSLA is going to obliterate them when they launch autonomous taxis.

>> No.19633475

>>19633292
Wtf did you buy

>> No.19633477

>>19633447
A shame Elon murdered thousands due to his greed.

>> No.19633481

>>19633463
Noooooooo

WERE ALL GONNA DIE AND BE IN A GREAT DEPRESSION!!!

think of the millions!

>> No.19633482

NEW >>19633479
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>> No.19633484
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>>19633431
same bro, the divvy dip killed me

>> No.19633486

why is everyone shilling ivr so much on here

>> No.19633487

>>19633442
Price targets based on predicting poor home buyers. A report just came out saying it was up 19%. So they're worth more now.

>> No.19633496

>>19633486
My calls are in the dumpster and need a miracle

>> No.19633497

>>19633354
> A stock that's been around for years is the next stock that's been trading for a week
Definitely.

>> No.19633502

>>19633454
it will be heavily used in a couple weeks when all the protester/march spreader infections start piling up. those people go home, spread to their roomates, who spread at their works, who spread to their roomates. we are going to see a big outbreak like the march one

>> No.19633507

>>19633313
Buying PLAY today. I'm bullish as fuck. Earnings have been crabby but gross profit has been up year over year and as someone in the restaurant industry I can tell you pent up demand is real.

>> No.19633509

>>19633442
>price prediction is $2
>I bought at $6
It's over.

>> No.19633524

>>19633502
>a big outbreak like the march one
If the tent hospital wasn't used in March, why would it be used now?

>> No.19633528

>>19633477
>murdered
Christ, everyone is pretty much expected to get corona, it's shit you can't contain but it shit that won't harm the majority of people.

>> No.19633535

>>19633507
isnt their earnings call tomorrow? Its probably going to be bad I wouldnt until friday.

>> No.19633551

>>19633396
For sure mate, it is going up and probably will continue as it kills old people, but I dont think it is going to impact economy as much as we thought.

With that said, I think the impact is going to be catastrophic, but, because of shitty panicky governments, not the virus!

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>>19633355
robinhood pennies do nothing to the prices.

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>>19633477
kek you know that's the perception desired by the media (and who do you think owns them?)

>> No.19633618

>>19633355
>nooooooooooooo new technology bad muh berkshire congressman daddo

>> No.19633652

>>19633617
He said he'd seen this all before I wonder what he meant by that?

>> No.19633654

>>19633617
I want cute trap gf with tiny peepee

>> No.19633797

>>19633175
> Georgia has been out of lock down since April 22nd and it's cases have been flat or declining.
In low density areas social distancing may be enough to flatten or even see cases decline. Please note I’m not a lockdown advocate, I just point out what 1.2% IFR means. Some rural areas may get away easier, we can always hope.

> And you contradict yourself. If the US did a shitty job with lock down, that just means that no lock down won't see a big increase in numbers, you know, because the lock down was shit as you say.
I see what you mean but it only seems that way because you compare extremes, the truth is in between and more nuanced.
The case curve is either growing linearly, with an R0 of 1, or growing exponentially, R0 > 1, or declining, R0 < 1. Before lockdowns and social distancing, covid seemed to double at different rates in different places, in some densly packed placed every 3-4 days, in some less dense areas about every 1-2 weeks. But everywhere it would double at some constant rate, so R0 > 1. Then lockdowns happened, at different strength in different places, usually stronger in worse hit, denser places. The result in many countries was success, getting R0 down below 1, meaning actually declining cases. Some countries, like Norway, did lockdowns early and got declining curves before they even had many cases. Other places like Sweden didn’t lockdown and only got their R0 down to 1, so their case rate per week has stayed pretty constant. The US has not done a very good job and has only seen a small decline in cases, an R0 just below 1 but not enough to see cases become rare again (except in hotspots like new york where lockdowns were stricter). So our lockdowns were shit compared to Norway, France and Italy that got their cases to really go down, but good compared to Sweden. But Sweden saw a fairly low R0 before soc. dist. as well, the US saw high R0 before lockdowns so we’ll see high R0 again when we reopen.

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19633841

>>19633797
>I just point out what 1.2% IFR means
IFR is 05% in NY.

Much lower if you were to rule out all the deaths that looked like corona, and the deaths of people who had corona but weren't killed by it.

>> No.19633865

>>19633344
It matters to me if the market crashes and I’m trying to figure out if it will once it realizes millions of Americans will die, or if it is in fact priced in and the last time the market crashed 30% when it thought the same thing was just confusion and the market being a little silly.

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>>19633865
>millions of Americans will die
Here's the guy who said that.

>> No.19633927

>>19633463
> Sorry if it sounds harsh, but the ones dying, aren't the ones that the economy relies on.
No, that’s literally the kind of analysis I have been trying to pry out of /smg/. Covid will kill a few million, it’s a fact, boo hoo, done greiving, now let’s discuss if will have an impact on stonks or not. You say no, I say I think it will because consumer confidence going down over millions of dead even if many of them weren’t productive, but on this I’m all open to the idea that you are right and am happy to hear all arguments in any direction.

>> No.19633968

>>19633551
> but I dont think it is going to impact economy as much as we thought
For me it feels almost impossible to figure out, half the time I think you’re right, the other half I think it must lead to a crash, that’s why I’m cashgang and don’t dare go in. I’m all ears to all your opinions on why and how it will/won’t impact the market.

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>>19633927
How are you still this hooked on the MSM's doom narrative, when the MSM themselves abandoned it already?

>> No.19633975

>>19633927
What would the effect be if pension funds are suddenly made solvent because of a culling of pensioners? Or are hundreds of thousands of dead boomers not even enough to save those shitshows?

>> No.19634052

>>19633841
No it’s 0.5% in new york when you discount the groups you mentioned, 1.4% when you don’t, which you shouldn’t. One good way to understand why you shouldn’t is that 1.4% brings it in line with the 1.2% figure from Spain, which doesn’t have the same weird cash bonuses for covid patients, a democrat conspiracy to take down Trump and whatever other arguments you may have for thinking covid is overcounted (rather than undercounted, unless you include the groups you want to discount) in nyc.

>> No.19634068

>>19634052
>No it’s 0.5% in new york when you discount the groups you mentioned
No, it's 0.5% when you use a much more realistic infection rate.
Try actually reading the pic I posted.

>> No.19634100

>>19633975
Yeah I think it’s too few, but you are probably better at telling if that’s true. If 3 million people over 65 die quickly, does that affect pension funds? I’d expect that to be less than 10% of their clientele.

>> No.19634183

>>19634068
No I’ve read it, and many times before too. I meant what I said, with the infection rates you cite. The 0.5% were with a very conservative number of deaths. When including deaths that should statistically be expected to be covid deaths, you get 1.4% which is in line with other big studies done in Spain and France (IFR should be very similar between countries, same virus, and these three countries even have the same predominant strain)

>> No.19634210

>>19634183
>No I’ve read it, and many times before too.
Then you know the ONLY thing that is changed to reach that 0.5% IFR, is the actual number of infected.

>> No.19634265

>>19634210
That is the only thing mentioned in your article, but more recent models include more of the otherwise unaccounted for excess deaths.

>> No.19634277

>>19632666
Thank you, Satan.

>> No.19634309

>>19634265
>That is the only thing mentioned in your article
Yes.

Infection number is the only thing that was changed to go from 2, 3, 4, ...% to 0.5%.

>> No.19634358

>>19634265
...which, to be really clear, seems like the right thing to do (including excess deaths) as it brings the number away from outlier status and into line with Spain and France which were less overwhelmed than New York and better able to keep track of their dead (and weren’t involved in weird democrat plots against Trump)

>> No.19634679

>>19634309
When you use the much more realistic infection rate from the antibody tests, you get the IFR, dead divided by total number of infected. Before antibody tests we only hade the Case Fatality arate, CFR, which was as high as 6%. That’s a different number than IFR (though it is a roof for the IFR) though your article misleadingly refers to both as ”death rate”. Anyway, here’s what’s up:
Your article notes that with antibody testing ”death rate” goes down from 6% to 0.5% (really we’re going from CFR to IFR). So far so good, this is what you have pointed out three times and I assure you I understand this. What has happened since the publication of your article, that I’m trying to inform you about, is that they realized that when getting the number 0,5% by taking dead / infected, they indeed had a good, correct and as you say realistic infected number, but they had counted too few deaths. Counting those deaths, the IFR went back up a bit again, to 1.4%
The 0.5% number used a very conservative number of covid deaths, those that had been tested. But nyc lost track, and weren’t counting all their covid deaths. In April they had more than 5x the normal amount of TOTAL deaths for the month, and it was not clear if counting a fair portion of those that went untested as covid deaths would be correct or not, but getting the number 1.4% by doing so (credible due to being in line with Spain and France) indicates that it’s the correct thing to do.